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The TV’s Running Down!!
Season Finale Dates!!

Published at: Jan. 4, 2008, 5:05 a.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!! Thanks to the writers’ strike, there are more scripted season finales in January than in any other month this year. These are the ends, my friend. BY DATE: Women’s Murder Club (ABC) Jan. 4 Desperate Housewives (ABC) Jan. 6 Gossip Girl (CW) Jan. 9 CSI (CBS) Jan. 10 Grey’s Anatomy (ABC) Jan. 10 My Name Is Earl (NBC) Jan. 10 30 Rock (NBC) Jan. 10 Family Guy (Fox) Jan. 13 CSI Miami (CBS) Jan. 14 NCIS (CBS) Jan. 15 ER (NBC) Jan. 17 Without A Trace (CBS) Jan. 17 Moonlight (CBS) Jan. 18 Life Is Wild (CW) Jan. 20 Law & Order: SVU (NBC) Jan. 22 Ugly Betty (NBC) Jan. 24 Brothers & Sisters (ABC) Jan. 27 Boston Legal (ABC) Jan. 29 Friday Night Lights (NBC) Feb. 8 Cashmere Mafia (ABC) Feb. 13 Scrubs (NBC) Feb. 14 Psych (USA) Feb. 15 Prison Break (Fox) Feb. 18 Samantha Who? (ABC) Feb. 18 Nip/Tuck (FX) Feb. 19 Las Vegas (NBC) Feb. 22 Monk (USA) Feb. 22 Medium (NBC) March 3 Terminator (Fox) March 3 Stargate Atlantis (SciFi) March 7 The Wire (HBO) March 9 Breaking Bad (AMC) March 16 Kyle XY (ABC Family) March 17 Lost (ABC) March 20 L Word (Showtime) March 23 Quarterlife (NBC) March 24 Jericho (CBS) March 25 In Treatment (HBO) March 25 BY TITLE: Boston Legal (ABC) Jan. 29 Breaking Bad (AMC) March 16 Brothers & Sisters (ABC) Jan. 27 Cashmere Mafia (ABC) Feb. 13 CSI (CBS) Jan. 10 CSI Miami (CBS) Jan. 14 Desperate Housewives (ABC) Jan. 6 ER (NBC) Jan. 17 Family Guy (Fox) Jan. 13 Friday Night Lights (NBC) Feb. 8 Gossip Girl (CW) Jan. 9 Grey’s Anatomy (ABC) Jan. 10 In Treatment (HBO) March 25 Jericho (CBS) March 25 Kyle XY (ABC Family) March 17 L Word (Showtime) March 23 Las Vegas (NBC) Feb. 22 Law & Order: SVU (NBC) Jan. 22 Life Is Wild (CW) Jan. 20 Lost (ABC) March 20 Medium (NBC) March 3 Monk (USA) Feb. 22 Moonlight (CBS) Jan. 18 My Name Is Earl (NBC) Jan. 10 NCIS (CBS) Jan. 15 Nip/Tuck (FX) Feb. 19 Prison Break (Fox) Feb. 18 Psych (USA) Feb. 15 Quarterlife (NBC) March 24 Samantha Who? (ABC) Feb. 18 Scrubs (NBC) Feb. 14 Stargate Atlantis (SciFi) March 7 Terminator (Fox) March 3 30 Rock (NBC) Jan. 10 The Wire (HBO) March 9 Ugly Betty (NBC) Jan. 24 Without A Trace (CBS) Jan. 17 Women’s Murder Club (ABC) Jan. 4 This isn’t quite everything, as not all finale dates have been decided. Also, Fox plans to have three scripted series – “Bones,” “Canterbury’s Law” and “New Amsterdam” – airing until April or May.

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  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:35 a.m. CST

    30 rock and Friday Night Lights are still new?

    by waggy

    Shit, i assumed they were already done. guess i have some catching up to do

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:43 a.m. CST

    An 8 episode season of LOST?!!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    AWW, HAILL NAWW!!!! <p> SHIT! <p> SHIT!! <p> SHIT!!!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:50 a.m. CST

    meanwhile, 20 years in the future

    by smackfu

    some guy is in a store staring at the back of the box for Lost Season 4 in HD HoloDisk and wondering why the fuck 1 out of 7 seasons is only 8 episodes long, but he still has to pay 300 Quatludes for it.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:51 a.m. CST

    hey herc

    by birdy birdman

    when does the new season of The Shield start? haven't heard much about this in regards to the strike from anywhere and hadn't really even considered it until right now...the shield just seems like such a staple of the new year...

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST

    ...i hadn't even considered the possibility

    by birdy birdman

    of it being postponed

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Jett, Smallville and Supernatural come back 31 January

    by Johnny Smith

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:17 a.m. CST

    trés gay...

    by couP

    when's terminator even starting if it's "finale" is march 3.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:21 a.m. CST

    "DUNT! DUNT!! DUNT!!!"

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    "Another one bites the dust!" <p> "DUNT! DUNT!! DUNT!!!" <p> "Another one bites the dust!" <p> "An' another one falls! An' another one falls!" <p> "Another one bites the dust!" <p> "Hey! It's gonna get you too!!" <p> "Another one bites the DUST!! LOOK OUT!!"

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:23 a.m. CST

    smackfu

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    It's funny 'cause it's true!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST

    first!

    by tristeele

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:30 a.m. CST

    birdy birdman of the birdman variety...

    by Sledge Hammer

    The final season of The Shield starts in early April. Can't wait, but I sure hope that the strike is over by then so that Ryan actually goes back to work long enough to tweak the final episode (if need be)...

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Yes.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    You're the first "tristeele" post on this talkback. <p> Be proud.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    What about "Smallville"?

    by Mike_D

    wtf?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Is CHUCK done?

    by BankyFan

    I still have three left on my DVR - but if that's all there is, that's sad.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:53 a.m. CST

    ER is still on?

    by skywalkerfamily

    WTH!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Terminator premieres in Jan and ends in March...

    by Zardoz

    that was quicker than expected!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:58 a.m. CST

    First

    by OQuaTanginWann

    Snuffleupagus

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:58 a.m. CST

    If you nuke a TV season, the only survivors will be...

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    ... The Cockroaches of Reality Television!! <p> Get ready Hulkamaniacs!! Hulk Hogan is about to hit you upside the head with a very large padded (read: dildo) stick!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Terminator will probably be cancelled by March!

    by skywalkerfamily

    When does Prison Break end?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:17 a.m. CST

    See? But you people keep on supporting the writers

    by Sick Fixx

    They obviously care so much about YOUR needs.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST

    I'm begging for scabs to come out of the woodwork

    by Sick Fixx

    There's nothing wrong with opportunism in this case. The people who occupied these jobs CHOSE to walk away. Their jobs have to go to somebody. It's all fair game now.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:23 a.m. CST

    Lost has a great opportunity here

    by AlwaysThere

    No competition for practically any of its 8 episodes this season.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:58 a.m. CST

    What a screw-over for "Scrubs".

    by The Visco Kid

    This is the show's last season and the last new episode certainly didn't do much to further along the remaining lose ends. I really would have liked to have seen what all Bill Lawrence had planned for the show. I guess now we'll be stuck with a rushed finale that will leave fans feeling empty and cheated. Sort of like the way "I Am Legend" did. Oh snap!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:11 a.m. CST

    LOST finale is NOT March 20th.

    by oweny

    ...March 20th will be the 8th episode, which is only HALF way through the season. Lets not fool ourselves into pretending its a full season when it's not. The fact is, f*ck knows when the 16th (final) episode will be filmed, let alone broadcast.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST

    And I agree with Sick Fixx

    by oweny

    The writers are the ones shafting everyone else here; not the other way around. They're putting plenty of innocent bystanders out of work too. Not to mention punishing viewers for a mess not of their making.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:28 a.m. CST

    As it stands, if neither side can be bothered

    by The Selecter

    to make an effort to resolve this thing, why should anyone else give a shit? As if anybody outside NY or LA gave a shit anyway.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    The Writers are the ones that Create these Shows. Not the Execut

    by The Outlander

    Show a little respect.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 4:44 a.m. CST

    when the tv is running down?

    by newc0253

    'you make the best of what's still around'?<p> i deserve points for spotting the obscure police reference.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 6:04 a.m. CST

    At this point,

    by Pennsy

    I don't care which side shows 'weakness' in going back to the bargaining table first, but one side or the other needs to do just that.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Oweny, the viewers aren't on either side's radar right now.

    by Pennsy

    And won't be for the foreseeable future. Their interests are not either side's top priority. This could go on for the rest of the year, easy.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 6:22 a.m. CST

    I'm wondering...

    by superfleish76

    Let's play Pollyanna and say that the strike gets resolved in the next few weeks/months. Do the networks abandon the traditional "fall schedule" and bring some of these shows back early, since they got so little this season? It is an antiquated tradition, especially with the rise of the DVR.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST

    MandalotianSage, your helmet speaker is set too loud

    by Creamery Butter

    Remember when Peter Jackson was suing New Line because he wanted his cut of the LOTR profits and New Line said "Sorry, there aren't any?" despite being LOTR being a mega-blockbuster? Same deal with WGA wanting a cut of internet streaming revenue, not profits; they know that producers will use creative accounting to say "We don't make any profit on this -- don't know where the money went!" As for "millions being without entertainment"? Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all. Entertainment is a privilege, not a right.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Hey! After all these shows are over...

    by Abin Sur

    BSG starts up season 4 - now THERE'S the silver lining.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST

    THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WRITER'S STRIKE

    by Average J.

    Actually, I don’t even know why I’m bothering to clarify this for some of the misinformed individuals in the talkback here. But I guess it just really angers me when I read some of the ignorant comments that have been posted. So here goes… Now lets pretend you were a novelist and wrote the new ‘Harry Potter’ phenomenon. A publishing company came along and gave you $10,000 up front for your first novel and promised you a portion of profits for every published copy sold. Both you and the publishing company put this in writing. In other words, you make a contract. But now, suddenly, the Internet comes along and the publishing company realizes they no longer have to actually print hard copies of the books and sell them. They can do this all electronically over the Internet and people can now download the book for a fee. Well, guess what? You don’t get a cent. Your contract said you get a portion of profits from all PUBLISHED copies, not downloaded copies. The publishing company found a way to cut you out completely and keep all profits for themselves. When you complain, they tell you ‘Too Bad’! It wasn’t in your contract. So you try and make a new contract with them to include profits from Internet downloading (which is only fair) but they tell you to get lost. And that is exactly what is happening folks to the TV and Film writers. They don’t get a cent. Soon repeats will no longer be on television. They will all be on the Internet or some form of new media. TBS is doing this with “Just Shoot Me.” There was a commercial the other day advertising repeats on the Internet, not on broadcast. They make money on that, folks. The writers don’t. Now, please understand, being an industry writer is not like working for minimum wage at Wal-Mart. They are not buying your script from you for a set fee. They are essentially giving you a down payment with the understanding that you will receive residuals every time it airs. That is how it works. Only problem is they found a back door with the Internet and all new media and they thought they would get away with it. In other words, the big corporations found a way to screw the little guy out of what they rightfully had coming to them. What the writers are asking for is fair. They are the ones being screwed. And for all the misinformed here that are talking about scabs and whatnot, it’s disrespectful to the people that spend 15 hours a day, everyday, including weekends, to bring you the entertainment you so much enjoy. Oh, and for all you Wal-Mart folks (of course, I’m just using Wal-Mart as an example of an everyday job), what if your boss told you that you had to work an extra 8 hours a day and not get paid for it? You wouldn’t be too happy, would you? Well that happens to be another issue they are fighting for. I won’t even touch on the DVD issue. So the moral of the story is, don’t bitch about something when you don’t know what you’re talking about and you don’t have any of the facts. To the people on this talkback who are calling the writers greedy, that just comes from a place of pure ignorance. It’s like someone who’s never seen a Football game trying to talk about Football. I hope this enlightens you in some way. These people are just trying to fight for their ability to make a living. Just like you. Most o these are not rich people. And none of them are certainly greedy people. They just happen to be very creative and talented individuals standing up for what is right. And by the way, I AM NOT a member of the WGA. I am just a person who has taken the time to read the facts, which have been presented, and realize which side is right.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    BSG ommited from this list?

    by palewook

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Maybe we could play Scrabble, work on the garden, talke long wal

    by Uncle Stan

    ...or vist the goddamn local library.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Average J

    by Itchy

    Really, who gives a fuck ? All I want is a full season of Lost, Heroes and BSG. I mean, bully for the writers and all ... but if this drags out too much longer don't be surprised if a lot of jobs are permanently lost because this idiot nation would just assume watch Deal or No Deal or "Ow ! My Balls !" than their carefully crafted pieces of sh... I mean art.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Noooooooooooooooooooo!

    by Yeti

    Whatever will I do? Oh wait... Internet Porn to the rescue!!!!!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Meanwhile, 13 episodes of TORCHWOOD S2 begin Jan. 26 on BBCA

    by SpyGuy

    The first episode features James "Spike" Marsters, so if Herc doesn't pimp it, I'm officially revoking the BUFFY: TVS cast poster most likely hanging on the ceiling above his bed.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Oh, and what about REAPER?

    by SpyGuy

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't there two more episodes left to be aired?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:45 a.m. CST

    TV is now dead...

    by Kid Z

    ...And yes, I blame the corporate f**ks and not the writers. Just one more way the system screws the working man and woman. We're too masochistic and, yes, stupid in this country. Corporate power has so routinely and totally buttf**ked this county for decades and pretty much bled it dry and they keep getting away with worse and worse abuses. Corporations are legally citizens in the eyes of the law, in fact, they have MORE rights than you or I. I wish all the cornfed, morons iwould wake the f***k up... it's really about time we started putting some heads up on pikes!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST

    well written Average J.

    by almostgrown

    I've supported the writers stand from the start, even though it meant losing a season of my favorite shows. As for the DVD issue, writers make 4 cents per DVD sold, and they are asking for an additional 4 cents per DVD.....how does that equate to being greedy? It's the networks that don't want to give up the money who are greedy.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Fuck the writers!!

    by ATARI

    You made your point, now get your asses back to work like the rest of us!<br>

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Shameless s5, Primeval s2

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Shameless is up and running already. <p> Primeval soon to follow. <p> Fuck American tv!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    BSG Returns in April.

    by The Outlander

    After all these shows have ended.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Average J....

    by MonkeyManReturns

    These guys are idiots - they don't understand simple issues as 'peoples rights' until it happens to them. And it will. We all get shafted in the end. Some of us will stand up and fight. Others like MandalorianSage and Itchy will bend over, lube their arses and tell the shafter to 'come on in boys - give it to me good.' Writers are damn important. Give them their due. You want to know why this strike is still going on you ignorant shits...its not the writers...its the bloody execs...if they put up a decent, fair deal, the strike would be over. But they dont. So the strike is still on. End of story. Don't blame the writers, blame the executives! And use your fucking heads you shits. 'What will I do for entertainment now? Oh boo hoo..." I know, how about read a book...oh shit, but thats created by writers!! And we sure hate them. You losers!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Terminator is great

    by eric haislar

    Watch the pilot last night and was impressed big time.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    SG: Atlantis

    by Gislef_crow

    A little misleadiong because its season finale would have been March 7 no matter what. All the episodes were in the can before the strike. Same for other USA/SciFi stuff like Monk and Psych. The strike's more likely to delay the series premieres if/when they get renewed for their July "new seasons."

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Who wants to marry a millionairre needs to return

    by jccalhoun

    Come on Fox, you know you want to! Give us another Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    A little reality from Hollywood....re: writer's strike

    by griporama

    ... and I don't mean reality TV. As a BTL worker for the last 15 years, the last 6 as an IATSE member (last 4 in tv), who has 2 kids, wife, dog, cat, and roof to keep over our head... I've been on the unemployment line for over a month now. And I support the WGA. So those of youw ho have no idea about the details of the strike, and just whine about not getting their Lost or 24 fix.... wah. There's a LOT more on the line IRL than just your ability to waste some time in front of the zombie box.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST

    8 episodes of Lost will beat full seasons of other shows

    by performingmonkey

    As long as Lost returns I don't mind that we're only getting 8 episodes for now. That's because I know how great it's gonna be. If 24 (the show) was returning for 8 episodes that would be a different story entirely because aside from the first few episodes of excitement it takes them around 12 episodes to fucking get anywhere in a season. That's why the can't air the 8 in the can, every episode of 24 just relies on what they're promising will happen in the next.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    When the strike is finally resolved

    by Jor-El23

    and it will be because money talks, what happens to the story arcs of all these seasons? Do they just pick up where they left off? Or do they scrap all plans they had for the remainder of seasons canceled by the strike and start anew?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Average J.

    by rbrog77

    Very well written post.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    There was an episode...

    by rbrog77

    ...of the Simpsons, I think, where for some reason kids started turning off their TVs. Their weary eyes squinted and blinked as they opened their doors and the sunlight hit their faces. The next thing you know they were playing marbles, riding bikes, swinging in the playgrounds, playing in mud puddles, building kid-type things, reading books, etc.<P> I'm preety sure that was before Wii, Playstation, XBox...<P> Think we could get the systems and game creaters to strike too?<P> ;->

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Griporama...

    by Abin Sur

    For us laymen, what do BTL and IATSE stand for? I'm not sure whether to be outraged or not.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    RBROG77, I remember that ep!

    by SantiagoAtez

    I was thinking about that the other day, too. It's too bad that the scripted shows that are being cut short this season aren't really what's keeping the kids inside. That would be great if we could get the TV writers back and get the game developers to head out...at least until the kids get used to that sun again.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    People like Itchy need to be eliminated from society.

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Their stupidity is bringing our national intelligence collective down many notches. I bet Itchy's car quits a lot because he doesn't CARE that it takes gas. "Fuck gas, I just want my car to go duuuurrhh!" Fucking git.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Average J

    by theycallmemrglass

    That was very informative and simply laid out. Thanks. What I want to know now is why is a deal is not yet made? Sure its easy for us to say the execs are greedy but what are they actually saying? I assume the writers are asking for X amount of money. What if X is more than justified. What if the writers are taking advantage and demanding more than what is reasonable? Then the execs would have a point not to make an agreement. There is that possibility but I want know both sides of the coin. I support the writers to get more but what exactly is going on?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Average J is missing the point.

    by oweny

    Nice post, but you're missing one vital point about downloaded episodes: Very few people actually PAY to download anything. Seriously if writers think there are millions of people PAYING to download their written episodes on a daily basis, they are sadly misguided. Also, I dont agree with any kind of strike, ever. When you take on a job, you do so knowing the pay and conditions, you read the paperwork, you sign a contract knowing exactly what you're taking on. Accept it. If something comes up which you didn't think of, then tough shit, get the job finished, and be more aware next time. That is how life works.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Scrubs

    by Flying Spaghetti Monster

    yah i agree...it's their last season and the WG fucked them over. I think I might go on strike for residuals on the CO2 I put out. By the way, don't hate! Vote FSM 2008!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Its not about money

    by The Winged Doucheman

    The execs can afford it. Its an issue of pride. Neither side wants to give up their balls. Its artists and extroverts vs rich kids. Its like high school, only without the awkward handjobs after homecoming.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    I support the writers, but the strike is doomed.

    by WickedJacob

    I absolutely agree with what the writers are fighting for. But they are still idiots. TPTB can hold out longer than the writers can. If the writers were going to have shot at this, they should've realized ten years ago what the future of communications was going to be. Then they could've made their deal before the reality show / game show era began with Survivor and Millionaire. Because once networks realized that popular shows don't technically need writers, writers became a lot less important. Yes, the most intelligent and probably the most profitable shows are the written ones -- but the networks know what they can glide for two or three years on mediocre reality shit (especially now that shows like Conan and TDS have cracked under the pressure). The rich writers can glide for two or three years on the money they already have. But the poor writers (which this strike is supposedly about) can't go without working for that long. Thus the network execs have known from day one of the strike that they would win and that the writers will eventually come back to work, probably with little more than a token concession from the execs so that the writers egos can be soothed. In the end, the execs will be stronger because they know the embattled writers won't walk out again anytime soon. (It will also serve as a warning to the SAG.) These execs are not idiots. If they felt the writers could win, they would've settled quickly. Instead, They've obviously bunkered down for a long winter, knowing they can outlast anyone and that it is in their best economic interest over the long term to not show weakness to unions.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    And another thing!

    by oweny

    When you want to see an episode of your favourite show, do you: (a) pay to download it, (b) download it from a free filesharing source, (c) purchase the dvd, (d) just watch it on television? I suspect that option (a) is a very, very, very small minority of people, and therefore the WGA are barking up the wrong tree. DVD on the other hand is a more valid argument, but DVD's have been around over 15 years and only NOW do they decide its a problem? What's changed?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Oweny

    by The Winged Doucheman

    The point is they were more aware this time. Their contract was up and it was time to renew. Negotiations were unsuccessful. This is why we have a strike. Downloads don't pay the studios, advertisers do. And they pay a shitload.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Average J

    by dogstar69

    Thanks, at least now i understand what's going on,

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Oweny

    by ICantBelieveIRegistered

    We don't pay to watch TV either. The Advertisers essentially foot the bill. Same model as online episodes, the difference being that the execs can accurately track how many viewers they get to set the price for ads, versus having to rely on "Sweep" months. And good post, Average J. Not enough of those here.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Oweny, you forgot Option E

    by jim

    "Watch it for free on the Network's website" It's free for us; the network gets paid by advertisers, either an ad like the one that adorns the borders of this site, or a commercial that runs before the show. I remember watching an episode of Survivor on a Canadian site and it was broken up into 5 segments, and each segment began with the same car commercial. The revenue from that ad is what the writers want a piece of.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Average J.

    by bluebottle

    You should have also pointed out that the original contract has expired, it's not like the writers are trying to null and void their existing contract.<p></p> Also, as someone pointed out on these boards before, Herc probably makes more money off the DVD sales from the click-throughs on this site than the writers make.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    LOL....Oweny just got Pwnzeny

    by Ultron ver 2.0

    Always nice to see when some uneducated douchenozzle gets served.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    TV is DEAD - im spending more time doing other stuff

    by Mr_X

    hope this strike lasts for a while so a) we might get journyeman back and b) we all get tie to do that stuff you've never had time for. learn a new language, work out, get a new hobby, travel more, learn to pick up chicks. my god people theres loads of fricking things to do. Me? i'm downloading deadwood. now only if someone uploaded the highlander series id be well chuffed.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Abin Sur...

    by griporama

    BTL = below the line.... camera, lighting, grips, makeup etcetc... Iatse = International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    You mean, somebody actually thought the "free"...

    by Mister Man

    downloads made no money???!!! Incredible. How the living hell can anybody in 2007 not know about advertisers?? They've been paying networks and affiliates since the beginning of TV broadcasting, and have obviously continued to do so, in a big way, on the Internet. People, PLEASE.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    GO TEAM VENTURE! JP posts season 3 pix

    by BrandLoyalist

    Don't OD when ER, NCIS, and all those CSIses go OTA! Venture Bros. is coming back, err, some day. 3 eps are in the can. <br> http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=20683 <br> Included: a great group shot of characters old and new appearing in the first few eps. Article also points out: no Colbert as Prof. Impossible this season, gosh darn it.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    2008

    by Mister Man

    My inevitable first mistake regarding the new year - at least I didn't ruin a check.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Venture Bros is great

    by The Winged Doucheman

    But I'm now a Xavier guy all the way.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:16 p.m. CST

    animated shows are this affected?

    by Bouncy X

    considering how far in advance animated shows usually are made, i'm surprised to see family guy in that list. american dad and simpsons arent there so how come FG has to end their season so early and they dont? especially considering american dad is from the same people as FG? or is it because the last new episode aired for those two was the end for now?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Terminator not so good...

    by SantiagoAtez

    I'd like it a lot more without the cheesy hot good-terminator. Yeah, she's nice to look at, but c'mon...it would have been better with an additional hot girlfriend instead, while keeping the terminator a bad-ass.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Hercules, don't sugar-coat it

    by jim

    Let's call it what it is. With few exceptions these aren't "Season Finales". They are the final episodes of the season. Maybe you think I'm splitting hairs but to me a Season Finale is the culmination of the entire season, the wrap up of what that season has been about. What we're getting here, for the most part, is the last script that was finished, or as finished as it was ever going to get, before the strike hit. A Finale should bring closure to the season while teasing us for the season to come; what we will get is an abrupt ending.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    But when the strike...

    by BoggyCreekBeast

    really starts to hurt the movie industry, those TV execs will know the REAL power in Hollywood. Stay the course, my fellow writers!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Whats the use of changing broadcast signals in 2009

    by JeffManSixtyFo

    When broadcast TV is dying.Don't no one care? It's all a plot.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    So where have all those quarters been going

    by skimn

    that I've been sticking in the back of my tv set...? Huh, you mean...I'M RICH BITCH! OK enough ragging on Oweny. It would be interesting to know what the couteroffers are to the writers, because the more this drags on, the more it will hurt the industry as a whole.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Why Not Continue Season Thru Summer?

    by Deandome

    What's all this shit about finales in Jan.? IF the strike is settled in the next month or so...why not crank out 6-8 or so episodes of all these shows & run them thru June-July...maybe even August? The actors are getting their big vacations/breaks now, so they don't need the summer off. God knows EVERYONE would love the money, the suits, the writers, the staffs. And above all, this would stave off the very real chance that many people will simply give up scripted television when they discover that the 8 month break didn't ruin their lives...they found other things to do that they're perfectly happy continuing to do. There's always been talk of the networks going to an yearlong schedule....cables shows like Monk/Psych/Closer/etc. clean up with new shows in the summer. This is a perfectly workable idea....which, I guess, means it doesn't stand a chance with all these moronic assholes.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Jeffmanzixtyfo

    by Flying Spaghetti Monster

    i thinks it's because they want to aution off the spectrum that old TVs used...Vote FSM 2008!!!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Reality TV will reign supreme...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...from here on out. They don't need writers, just a bunch a dumbasses running around doing random shit like singing and dancing. The moronic viewing public eats that shit up. IT'S A BOLD NEW WORLD!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    At what point do the shows have to let

    by jim

    the actors out of their contracts? I would think there is a clause somewhere that states an actor must either be paid or released after a certain amount of time of inactivity. But then again, it's not like their freedom from their TV obligations will allow them to work in film since that industry will be shutting down soon enough.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    The actors/directors/producers

    by The Winged Doucheman

    Don't get summers off. They are shooting in the summer to have shows ready for the fall. Even if shows were shot and ready for summer, no one would be around to watch. Nothing will be new until Fall...maybe.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Big Jim

    by The Winged Doucheman

    See "Force Majeure" http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/gulp-force-majeure-letters-in-the-mail/

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    I'm actually gonna have to get a life now

    by cromulent

    Like step outside for once. The sun! It burns! Hisssssss! But seriously, this sucks.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    A proposal for helping the Writer's Guild: ban "reality"

    by krushjudgement

    With the whole strike going on I have a couple of ideas. Firstly, I think the writers are justified in wanting a piece of the internet action. It seems obvious to the point of debate or backup points seeming, well, pointless. Secondly, I really enjoy written television, especially versus "reality" based programming. The common network answer to this strike will be (and has already been) an increase in, so called, reality shows. This is not good. A world full of competitive crazies shoving their psychosis down our throats is, frankly, depressing as hell. If I want that I'll watch the news. So I propose a grassroots campaign of rebellion against the networks. My idea... EVERYONE NEEDS TO BAN REALITY SHOWS. That's right. Stop watching all reality shows now! It will send a clear message: We will not watch crap, unless it is well written crap. (If you like reality shows that's okay, they'll never go away. But for the time being just help us get the good stuff back.) In the meantime, instead of watching TV, there are lots of fun things to do: read a couple of books, get some DVD seasons you’ve been missing out on, practice playing an instrument, go outside, you know, the good stuff. I feel this is an issue of cultural importance. Writing is art. Art is important to civilization. (And if I don't get a Battlestar Galactica season 4 finale, it may border on justifiable homicide.) Let's pull together for art's sake. Love, Nicholas www.myspace.com/kingofpaincomic

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Deandome

    by AlwaysThere

    You have to realize that most, scratch that, all of these tv shows had at max 8 to 12 episodes of their season done before the strike. Remember when TV shows premiere? Early September, anywhere in October, November at the latest. Take a look at a calendar based on those months and think about 8 to 13 episodes have to air each week over the course of those months. November sweeps is and was a big thing. If a network had a show with any episodes left they would run them up to Thanksgiving and hold everything off until now. That's why you have 1 episode left of this show, 3 or 4 of that show, a big fat ZERO for a different show, rinse and repeat. ---- Then consider that because only half of your 24, 18, 16, etc episodes had been written by those writers that went out on strike the first week of November, how exactly are any episodes past the half way point going to be filmed? There isn't very much to hold off on because they have nothing that was shot that can be edited. --- I think you're confused by the usage of the word "finale". It's a finale, because it's the final episode that the network has of the show. It could be termed a "midseason finale" or "story arc finale. It's a last ditched effort to get high ratings for most of their shows. Someone in the know on here would be able to tell us how those early shows: Women’s Murder Club to 30 Rock are advertising their last written, filmed, and edited episodes.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    kidnap Cuse and Lindelof

    by zooch

    lock them in a room until they write eight more episodes of Lost.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Mr. Rekshun, I hate to shatter your reality

    by Steve_Dooku

    but "reality" TV does indeed have writers. <br><br> I know, I know, it sounds crazy.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Reality writers

    by krushjudgement

    I know reality shows have writers, but can't they get by without them and/or create new shows/situations to get around them?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Lost and Terminator to get through the cold winter months = good

    by TallBoy66

    There's a bright side to everything, and two new shows to get through the coldness of Jan to March looks pretty good right now! (Global warming my ass, screw you Al Gore!)

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    If we must have reality...

    by Tyrion's Tyrannical Todger

    It's gotta be "Climbing For Dollars".

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    It's the suits' fault, they're just delaying the inevitable

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    They actually think they can get away with not paying these guys for internet shit?

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Now at last! The FOOD NETWORK will own your ass!

    by Uncle Stan

    BAM!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Hey Jack Colby, you go to the movies?

    by jim

    because that's the next industry that will be affected by this strike. Hope you like romcoms and remakes.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Thanks for that Winged Doucheman

    by jim

    If I understand it correctly, the actors are in a holding pattern. They're basically on hiatus.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I am Alvin and the National Treasure of the Caribean

    by The Winged Doucheman

    A hybrid film and guaranteed box office success. The studios can program it into their automatic script machine and shit this one out for a Christmas 08 release.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Caribbean

    by The Winged Doucheman

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    "...and shit this one out"

    by jim

    No kidding. Obviously it's easy to take a dump when you're so full of crap

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    You, meaning the studios

    by jim

    not you personally WD

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    problem with all the WGA communication on the strike...

    by SantiagoAtez

    problem with all the WGA communication on the strike...is that they're always so unlikable in what they say. So full of hate and spite. No, I'm not being sarcastic: this vengeful and insultful way of explaining the strike turns off the casual viewer that is paying attention to more important things going on in the world. These writers think everyone knows what's going on...they don't understand that most of us just want to watch their show, we don't care about the details. And for the record, I support them over the studios, but I still get turned off by the "Sorken"esk "I'm so damn witty" attitude.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    No worries

    by The Winged Doucheman

    How about this one: Live Free or Transform Super Spider Shrek Rush Identity 3 starring Shia Lebouf. Summer 2009.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Personally, I'm going to spend all my freetime furiously masturb

    by Ultron ver 2.0

    ..once I finish BSG Season 3.0 on DVD...thank you Amazon.co.uk!!

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Enough of the strike already...

    by MachThree

    I don't see why they cannot reach an interim agreement by which existing terms for distribution on TV, Cable, VHS, DVD etc. are retained and distribution via other media is explicitly prohibitted until terms for distribution on those media are worked out at a later date. That way, everyone gets back to work (including production workers who are being laid off and have nothing to do with the strike, and who have already collecitvely lost a lot more money than the writers and producers are arguing over) not making as much money as they could with an Internet distribution deal, but making roughly the same amount of money that they were pre-strike, which is a lot better than the absolute zero they're making right now.

  • Jan. 4, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Worldwide Pants, Bad Robot

    by bluebottle

    if Letterman's production company can reach an individual agreement with the writers, why can't other production companies do the same? I know that Tonight Show and Late Night can't because they're produced by NBC. But what about a show like Lost which is produced by Bad Robot but licensed by ABC? <p></p> Can anyone answer?

  • Jan. 5, 2008, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Tom Cruise just signed a deal with WGA

    by The Winged Doucheman

    UA is the first AMPTP company to break away. The house of cards begins to fall for the studios and Tom has priority on every script on the market.

  • Jan. 5, 2008, 2:40 a.m. CST

    United Artists

    by buffywrestling

    take the *same* WGA deal that was presented to Nick "Union Buster" Counter and the AMPTP - the same one which they walked away from the negoiating table for because it was unreasonable and too costly. Suprising really but only becasue the buzz was about Lionsgate (Robert Altman). <p> That's two in less than a week. Who's next???ˇ

  • Jan. 5, 2008, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Weinstein should step up

    by The Winged Doucheman

    They need a hit like a crackhead does. Imagine Harvey having his pick of the litter. As much as I enjoyed grindhouse, its time for the WC to make a profitable film.

  • Jan. 5, 2008, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Strike

    by Dreadnok4life

    I don't care about either side. They are all nimrods. This country and world has a lot more important things to worry about than when the next episode of Two and a half men is going to be on.

  • Jan. 5, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Scrubs

    by supertoyslast

    So the Feb 14th episode will definitely be the final ever episode? It sure sucks for your final season to be cut short (just ask Arrested Development). How many episodes will Scrubs have had in total this season?

  • Jan. 5, 2008, 9:06 p.m. CST

    I SUPPORT XENU IN BATTLEFIELD EARTH 2 ON THIS ONE.

    by Pennsy

    Tom frakkin' Cruise jamming a big sharp stick in the eye of Sumner Redstone and Viacom? Lord helps us. :p