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1st Annual AINT IT COOL AWARDS - Here Are The Winners!
Hey folks, Harry here... This year - we're doing this on the cheap, but next year we'll have physical awards and we'll organize this way classier than just this simple announcement.
These were conceived at a lunch held after BNAT Bagging this year... Basically we felt that there should be a consensus reached by the main AICN Film Editors (Quint, Moriarty, Capone, myself... oh and Massawyrm too) on the films we watch each year. I can't even convey the amount of blood and guts we've spilt while arguing for the past days and nights over the nominating process - or the idea that this was all being done with no prior announcement - so we couldn't be bribed... and we thought about keeping the results secret too and just announcing that we had reached a decision... and keeping it to ourselves - so we wouldn't be bribed in the future... but Moriarty went on about how he has another kid on the way and a mortgage and... yadda yadda yadda - then Quint mentioned his habit of ho's in every port... and I gave in. Besides - what's the point of figuring out the bests without announcing it, then claiming that our choices influenced everybody else in the world thus making us incredibly more important than all the previous awards in the world because... the winners of the 2008 Oscars, probably wouldn't be who they'll be, had we not gone through our process and influenced the thousands of Academy Voters that read AICN and follow our every lead.
So first we'll have our first - Different Category. The one category where each person's nominated result would be their DISCOVERY of the Year. This is each of our top picks for our personal film or talent of 2007. Here ya go:
AICN DISCOVERY OF THE YEAR
Moriarty's Discovery - Danny R. McBride of FOOT FIST WAY (soon to be seen in PINEAPPLE EXPRESS, TROPIC THUNDER) as well as this year's films HOT ROD and THE HEARTBREAK KID. "He will explode in 2008" - Moriarty. So stand back and wear plastic.
Massawyrm's Discovery - TIME CRIMES and Director/Writer Nacho Vigalondo. Premiered at FANTASTIC FEST 2007 and won many awards there.
Capone's Discovery - Screenwriter Diablo Cody of JUNO. One of the best screenplays in quite some time.
Quint's Discovery - THE SIGNAL and its directors: David Bruckner, Dan Bush and Jacob Gentry. A landmark first film.
Harry's Discovery was the amazing film, MONGOL by Director Sergei Bodrov. Emotionally intimate yet on a vast scope and epic cinema landscape. Just great.
AICN's BEST FOREIGN FILM
THE ORPHANAGE
Honorable Mention: PERSEPOLIS
AICN'S BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
CATE BLANCHETT - I'M NOT THERE
Honorable Mention: Emily Mortimer - LARS & THE REAL GIRL
AICN'S BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
JAVIER BARDEM - NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
Honorable Mention: Phillip Seymour Hoffman - CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR
AICN'S BEST ACTRESS
ELLEN PAGE - JUNO
Honorable Mention - Marketa Irglova - ONCE
AICN'S BEST ACTOR
DANIEL DAY LEWIS - THERE WILL BE BLOOD
Honorable Mention - Viggo Mortensen - EASTERN PROMISES
AICN'S BEST SCREENPLAY
JOEL & ETHAN COEN - NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
Honorable Mention - Paul Thomas Anderson - THERE WILL BE BLOOD
AICN'S BEST DIRECTOR
PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON - THERE WILL BE BLOOD
Honorable Mention - Joel & Ethan Coen, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
Honorable Mention: Emily Mortimer - LARS & THE REAL GIRL
Honorable Mention: Phillip Seymour Hoffman - CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR
Honorable Mention - Marketa Irglova - ONCE
Honorable Mention - Viggo Mortensen - EASTERN PROMISES
Honorable Mention - Paul Thomas Anderson - THERE WILL BE BLOOD
Honorable Mention - Joel & Ethan Coen, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
And for AICN'S Pick For The BEST PICTURE of 2007:
THERE WILL BE BLOOD
Honorable Mention: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
This was our consensus. To see our individual breakdowns - look for our end of the year roundups which will be hitting beginning next week and beyond (you know Moriarty... he has arthritis... poor old man.
Hope you enjoyed the list of our picks for the top of the year. Next year, it'll really be quite a production. Fireworks, worldwide broadcast, showgirls, latex tuxedos... spare no expense, you'll see!
Honorable Mention: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
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great choice
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So close!!
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can't wait to see there will be blood this weekend at the midnight drafthouse screening :) been wanting to see it with a passion since i threw my program on the ground exclaiming god dammit for not waiting in line with massawyrm told me what was screening that night at fantasticfest..... oh and first? i don't really do the first thing, but i guess i was
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i took to damn long, that first game sucks
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No Country was visceral and badass to no end . . . but There Will be Blood just had that sharp, focused point on Daniel Day Lewis' character that kept me riveted the whole time . . . a whole cast of people who know what they're doing? Or one tyrant that won't let go of your throat? I'd be happy with either one takin it all, actually.
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Way over due guys. We all look forward to your reviews and you've all earned the clout to post awards. I also hapen to agree with much of whom you awarded. nicely done.
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and no explanations or synopsis whatsoever?
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are you guys on strike too?
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It is our first year - we're taking it easy to start with. However - if y'all have categories you want us to consider for next year - or suggestions on how AICN should throw this wild extravaganza next year - or have a few million you want to throw into a lavish televised award spectacular... well, post here in talk back and let's hear about it!
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and aren't first... ^_^
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COME ON!!!!!
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Awards are always better with noms. Or more than one HM. It makes the winner seem like more of a winner. You claim to have debated for days but all we see are the same names showing up in every critic's circle. Show us the interesting performances argued! I'm sure you guys yelled about actors and actresses the other critics didn't consider!
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Seriously. Why do we all get tied up in knots about that moronic awards ceremony? P.T. Anderson -- you've won the better one, whatever happens.
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Those are nice picks, but a little predictable actually. I sort of hope that AICN might champion some of the less obvious choices, suggestions for the Academy, ones they might be less inclined to consider. BLACK BOOK, for example, was a remarkable film with a strong female lead performance. Yet it's not receiving the year-end accolades I expected it to. Gerard Butler totally took command of the screen this year in 300. Yet, no one is celebrating his star-making turn as King Leonidas. Perhaps, AICN could shine a light where others are not.
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Back to back... same theatre... same day... which one should I see first?
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I caught There Will Be Blood earlier in December and it was fantatstic,e asily my favorite movie of the year. And i'm seeing it again Saturday at midnight at the Drafthouse... can't wait to see it with a crowd!
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This is a great idea, so much in fact that it's surprising AICN has never done it before. I like the "Different/Surprise" category, but how about more categories that appeal to the geeks? Set this Best Of apart from the rest of the pack. For starters include best VFX, and also add in some of the MTV categoris: best fight, best villain. How about best superhero movie or best "Comeback" flick (Rocky, Die Hard). Also Razzies would go well here: biggest letdown, biggest studio screwup for a project that should have been tits, etc.
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... I think that's what our individual lists will continue to do. I know that, looking at my rough list so far, it's not like any other I've read, and it really expresses just how much I've loved 2007 and all its extremes.
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Roger Deakins baby!
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Hmmm... that's all I can think of for now... its good to start off slow... gotta crawl before you can walk...
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for example - I can't believe he's only just discovered and fallen in love with the screenwriter of UNDERWORLD!
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..if all the decent movies that came out in any give year were shown to the critics at the same time... would those decent ones that came out later in the year still come out on top? Not so sure.
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This is a site about hype, so an award like this is a must - although I'm sure the site's Hollywood cronies would take slight.
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...are always enjoyable to read. Looking forward to seeing this year's.
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Why just stick with the standard 'best of list'. Why not mix it with 'worst of' as well. And more geek worthy categories, you know like Best nude scene or Best WTF moment. Something fun.
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No catagory for viggo's balls. Or the simple biggest mistake of the year... HARRY HAS CHOSEN BETAMAX AND HERE'S WHY.... I wish you guys would realise just HOW FRUSTRATING it is for us fans when you pick film we haven't seen yet.. still I'll take these choices with a pinch of salt.. forget the trendy smart arse choices... time will tell... time will tell.
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My wife and I saw this on Christmas Eve. Best screenplay in a while is right! Brilliant film. Michael Cera... wow... talk about an subtle performance. Ellen Page... wow wow wow. Amazing. And everyone in the movie... they must have loved getting to act in this movie. Not just best dialog but best characters. For once... I want a sequel. I want to see what is going on in the lives of these people.
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Easy... Transformers. Easily the most most overdesigned cluttered visual mess since the LOST IN SPACE debacle.
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... SHAKES THE CLOWN is awesome. Seriously. As one quote at the time said, "It's the CITIZEN KANE of alcoholic clown movies," damn it!
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...even if it is only in one category's honorable mention. I love that movie soooo much. I'm just crazy about it. Pure magic. As for other categories for future AICN Awards, I really like the idea of cinematography, visual effects, sound, etc. awards. I enjoy seeing the "tech" categories get lots of love, too. That said, a good start for a first year.
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This list is a film fans wet dream and will no doubt more accurately reflect the quality of cinema this year than anything we'll see at the "Major" awards shows.
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Journeymnan and me obviously bitches
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To think that apparently the lot of you only found quality in two films. And, while I will give TWBB some props ONLY for Day-Lewis' performance (it is a very dreary film that few will watch again), NCFOM is simply overrated.
Now I realize this is against the grain and everyone wants to sing praises, but I do not understand the overwhelming blind worship this film has. He should have been about 20 minutes shorter, there should have been some resolution for ANY of the characters so that you feel at the end that you have actually taken a journey as opposed to spending 2 hours to get right back where you started.
I respect all of your views, but they seem to be a little biased given the repetition of your choices. Perhaps next year you should include a few of your guest columnists so the results are a bit more reflective of the entirety of film and not a few favorite directors / actors. -
Not in my fucking city! Hurry up and wide-release this please! I still havent seen No Country for Old Men(hard times), but the best film this year for me remains 300 until proven otherwise. PTA and The Coen Bros. might change that though. The Wire season 5 in 1 week! Most films dont stack up to this show.
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Every time Nic Cage points his finger at someone in Ghost Rider. Fuck Yeah! That was so awesome! Just kidding...
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It's a cool idea having AICN awards, and i'd love it if you guys got proper award statues for it, maybe threw a proper party event for it, would be awesome.
However you need some more interesting and unique awards, otherwise it's not much different from all the other awards ceremonies. Also as others have said, i'm sure you all loved There will be blood and NCfOM but...so will the oscars, golden globes etc. Was there really nothing a little more unique/oddball? Maybe have a "film you most enjoyed" award to go with best film, one can be a more objective, artistic award whilst the other for just what film you thought was brilliant. -
This film is not getting enough attention, both on the awards front and on the year-end list front. It's like every critic has ADD and has already forgotten about this amazing film that came out earlier in the year. I haven't seen THERE WILL BE BLOOD, nor have I seen CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR and NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (I live in South Africa, we usually have to wait a while before getting the less-mainstream films out there). I'm sure all those films are just as good as people are making them out to be, but having seen THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD, I find it hard to believe that people have forgotten about the amazing performances by Casey Affleck and Brad Pitt, as well as some of the best cinematography I've ever seen in film courtesy of Roger Deakins. Perhaps I'll change my mind once I've seen some of the films on these lists, but right now I really hope the Academy has enough sense to acknowledge the film. Honestly, when I walked out of the cinema I thought, "I just saw one of the films that will be nominated for Best Film." Looks like I may have been wrong, and that’s a shame.
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in my stool!
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just sayin
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No resolution? The whole point of NCFOM is to show that Llewelyn (and his wife, etc) are mortal like everyone else. Anton of course will go on because he = Death (literally), and Ed Tom Bell has already lived his life before the film begins; he's not even a participant. He's just a witness to the almost mechanical process of death stalking the living, waiting for his turn.
The last 20 minutes of this film was easily the most misunderstood bit of cinema all year. All these questions about why the murder took place offscreen, who took the money, what the Mexicans' involvement was, and what happened to Llewelyn's wife are kind of absurd considering all the answers are right there in the film.
Easily the best film of the year, and I know that's a popular (and therefore dull and obnoxious) position to take. You can't even compare There Will Be Blood to this, tho. TWBB is beautifully crafted around Daniel Day-Lewis's performance piece, but it's ultimately hollow. I was kind of shocked at the lack of Plainview's development. He's essentially a static character. He gets more violent as the film progresses, but only out of necessity. He's still the same inside. The ending is a brutally absurd punchline that was too busy worshipping Kubrick to be genuine. I did like some of the tete-a-tete between DD-L and Paul Dano's preacher.
Dexter's right about the 2-film storyline that's been happening lately. There were a lot more releases worthy of discussion than no country and there will be blood.
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...awards for good films like you've done, with AICN razzies, where the most overrated and most hated films are nominated based on the overwhelming talkback response to these movies. That would give it a true AICN feel. These awards as they are now don't really have the AICN spirit.
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Best movie to combine Robocop and Flashdance. Seriously, she's a stripper who's limbs fall off and then get replaced with new robotic ones which she uses to snap a serial killer's wrist. This is definately my vote for best film of the year.
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As in the Academy Awards, the Runner-Up to Best Picture gets the Best Screenplay award as consolation. But I suppose in the case of "No Country," the screenplay might actually merit this.
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after seeing HARD CANDY. Not only is she a mezmerizing actor, she's also drop dead beautiful. Gorgeous! And, thankfully, legal. Too bad her first big performance is in a pro-life / anti-choice propaganda movie. oddly enough, both JUNO and KNOCKED UP come off as anti-choice / pro-life propaganda. I would think that a self-avowed feminist like Page would be more careful about the underlying message being presented.
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Vern should get a say in the AICN awards! We need a profffesional segalogist on judging board!
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"should have been about 20 minutes shorter"
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Drama is fine and lovely but what about badass action flick award - OR (see next titled post...)
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How many times do i come to AICN and discover the new marketing - so much talkback on these items here we need to feed that seed a bit - the tease if you please
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She chooses to have the baby. Pro-choice means exactly that.
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His HALLOWEEN trainwreck was a huge steaming pile of shit. Also, seriously, the screaming white trash aesthetic Which worked great in DEVILS REJECTS is now tired and should be retired. Time to find a new schtick there, Z. Although, it did make a big chunk a change though didn't it? I guess, like Robert Neville, it turns out I'm the abomination.
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Why do movies have to display every agenda in order to be legit? I've noticed more and more people making commentary like this - is that what's cool these days, to get upset that a film doesn't share your personal views?
Art has its own agenda. You can feel free to disagree with the viewpoint of the artist, but you cannot expect a piece of art to make adjustments to itself. Well, I say that, but if you're actually Kim Jong-Il, than I suppose you can make as many demands as you wish. -
of Categories. I was hopeing for some crazy categories? I say start over and do AICN categories. Not wannabe Oscar stuff. How can MTV cooler categories then AICN? This is a geek site, give us a geek award list. Not a suck up list.
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I just made an observation. In addition, I'm not sure if its "cool" or not, but I've never been one to worry about popular opinion. I don't conduct my life according to the fickle whims and variable tastes of popular culture.
In all seriously though, all art has an implicit underlying political reality, or reflects the ideology, even in subtle ways, of the artist. Even a concious choice to not make a political statement is a political statement. I'm sorry if that makes you feel uneasy. But you know, this mortal coil, this veil of tears, isn't exactly known for making people comfortable. We merely endure, sometimes enjoy, and then pass on into eternity. -
Giving him any award is such a pitty award. He has done much better work prior to No Country, but since it was forigen we don't care. I feel like this years award season is going to be a pitty fest for the Coen brothers, either they are going to sweep (Director, movie, screenplay). Or they are going get Fargoed (Screenplay, Supporting actor). I don't think this movie holds a candle to any of their Fargo and before work. But I'd rather see them get awards then say Paul Haggis, or the American Gangster crew. But come on, if any actor deserve any award from that movie its Josh Brolin, Javier is pretty much flawless in everything he's done, but Josh Brolin should be next in line for Dancing with the Stars. Yet he's in like every movie this year and they are all good. He's pulled a Travolta now lets hope he doesn't piss it away. Plus Javier is going to end up being the next Daniel Day Lewis of acting. Looks at the similarites of movies, The Sea Inside to My Left foot, Mohicans to No Country (just in how bad ass they both are). Opps I thought Javier was in Talk to Her, it was a diffeent Javier. Good movie though.
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spoilers, spoiler, spoiled, etc... Jigsaw, I'm glad you liked the film but I think you missed the point in assuming that Sheriff Bell isn't a participant. Bell retires from being a Sheriff soley because he doesn't want to square off against Anton(the ending that all the yokels wanted, I'm sure with a Mexican standoff and Bell making off with the money). Bell keeps pointing out how ultra-violent America has become, how he can't even understand the level of brutality anymore. He visits his uncle, Ellis, a former lawman himself who tells a story of one of their family members being shot down on his front porch with his wife looking on... back in the 1880's. Bell realizes that it's not the criminals, but himself that can't hack it. (to paraphrase an IMDB post that summed it up well)When he tells his wife about the dream that he had about his own father—a dream in which his father, in an incarnation younger than Bell, carries a horn filled with light and rides forward into the darkness before him while Bell remains further back—the dream’s imagery suggests that Bell has become the first in his family’s line to puss-out. He has shown cowardice in the face of evil, and this behavior not only upsets the balance of forces that had existed for so long before, but it compels him to reassess his choice...to “wake up,” as his last words indicate. He realizes that he ultimately made the wrong choice.
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I can't believe you guys put Mr. Massa-happyfeetsucks-haven'tseenanniehall-wyrm judging the best of the year and leave out the best writer on AICN. (Moriarty is good too though). So those are my suggestions: Get Vern and buy him a present to compensate for this outrage. Oh and it wouldn't be bad to have a razzie dose in there, come on, it's AICN, there's gotta be some bitchin' in there. Cheers.
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BEST SOUNDTRACK- The film w/ the best music overall, not segregating a score from vocal music. WORKAHOLIC-The person with their name attached to the most quality films in one year. BEST SEQUEL/REMAKE/PREQUEL- They're coming out by the hundreds now, so might as well give 'em a category. BEST ACTION FILM- These hardly get their due despite their popularity. BEST REBOUND- Whether it be a sequel or remake that's better than its predecessor, or a person that improved the most over their last effort. That's about all I got, but I'm sure you can fill in some more of the *fun* variety (best nipple sucking shot, lesbian love scene, dismemberment, painful death, etc)
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Think that Daniel Day Lewis looks like a CGI character from a Zemeckis movie in those TWBB ads on this site?
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She had a great blog and was a columnist up here in Minneapolis, so we've know she could write for a while now.
And Massawyrm not worthy, Gilkuliehe? Come on, now. Have you read his BRATZ review? One of the best, funniest reviews written in the history of AICN. I agree that Vern should be included, though. -
Any? from anyone??? No????....pity.
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I second the best trailer category. Good idea.
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Most Original kill in a movie, Most Original Sex scene in a movie, Best Use of a Song in a Movie, for example, how 'Hurdy Gurdy Man' was used in Zodiac. It just seemed to fit perfectly so that whenever I'm reminded of Zodiac I think of that song, so its not an award for best song, but most apropos. And so forth. There's little point in aping the categories that the bigger and more relevant award shows churn out each year.
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Best Trailer is good too. Or Best Trailer for a film that turned out to be Total Crap... there's a bunch of those out there.
I think the AICN awards should not just be for movies. Obviously this site is primarily movie related, but you should also include TV, Comics, Anime, Soundtracks, Trailers, Games, and Cool geeky products. -
Bianca (from the same film) should have gotten the honorable mention instead.
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It doesn't make me uneasy knowing that artists can express themselves in the way they see fit. What makes me feel uneasy is that you seem to be unable to get past your own political beliefs when watching a film and choose to be so dismissive of opposing viewpoints. I'm sure you're pretty smart, but a lot of ignorant people display this mentality.For someone who is supposedly pro-choice, you sure don't seem to respect that idea that JUNO having the child is a viable option. You, in fact, dismiss Page as not being a feminist because she starred in the film. That seems an awful lot like discrimination on your part.
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Since you all can do whatever you want, is there a good reason to continue to break out the acting awards by gender? Maybe I'm missing something but it seems to me that an actor's work is essentially the same regardless of gender. We don't give out awards for best female director and best male costume designer, and so on (and even sugeesting it sounds offensive) so why continue to apply gender to the acting categories?
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You know how some awards have one where the people get to vote. And you should name some awards after people. Like a Christopher Lee Lifetime Achievement Award. Or a David Lynch Award for the Weirdest movie. Stuff like that. Next year you guys should announce the noms in advance and then have a proper ceremony and everything. After all the HFPA are just a bunch of people who decide what they like and then throw a party. I don't see why you can't do the same. No idea what the award should look like though.
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The nominees would be:
- Gotta Eat - Kurt Russell was laughing - Damn you, Michael Bay - My 3,000,000 myspace friends - This year's Little Miss (blank) Etc. Damn, I need to quit this site. -
And concluded that this woman would have had problems if she'd been raised in New Jersey.
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Most Use of "wank it in your fucking faces," : Gabriel Grey
Best semi original song: The Cthulhu Dance : Mister Nice Gaius
Blackest Box : Vern
Favorite Catchphrase : "..., and here's why: "
Least Favorite Catchphrase : "chocolate coated yadda yadda juice."
Biggest Scoop of the Year : The Batcycle
The Golden Oldie award : Every Indiana Jones degenerating into "Indiana Jones and the blankety blank," TB headlines
Worst Contest : (tie) R.E.M. with no follow up, Rob Zombie's Halloween
Most likely to stalk Kirstin Bell : Pennsy
Best Talkbacker subject lines : BringingSexyBack
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I have not seen one of the movies above!They release shit like AvP2 one day after it opens in the States and masterpieces like Eastern Promises or No country for old men are not out yet!E.P. comes out this week and the Cohen movie is not even announced yet.That is a fucking SHAME!
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I second the inclusion of the different mediums since they do post things on this site about comics, tv, games, and so on. I think I prefer the segregation of the actor/actress performances just so that it gives more performances the oppurtunity to be recognized. Typically, there's only one director, costume designer, composer, screenwriter, but each film has multiple actors that deserve attention. What I would prefer in that respect is to continue to have best actor, actress, supporting actor and actress, and then also have a BEST PERFORMANCE category that way you're pitting the top 4 performances against each other regardless of gender or screen time.
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Do not refelct this site at all. Unless this site is aiming to be the People.com/EW.com/trendy entertainment site. We need a best geek film/sex scene/death/bat shit crazy film. All this love for Juno makes me want to puke, sure its a good movie but it just feels all to trendy for trendy's sake, like an emo kid. I guess if the aim is to make this site feel more mature then sure. But come on, people of this site should know that the Coen's are capable of better. Just weak sauce all around, that list looks like you just cut and pasted another award list from some magazine. The only cool thing in that list was AICN DISCOVERY OF THE YEAR. Oh an surprise best forigen film goes to Guillermo del Toro, I know he didn't direct it but him and Harry are so close (in numerous categories) why didn't you just call it AICN Guillermo del Toro award goes to The Orphange for putting his name on it. Best Trailer = 300, you know that trailer got you so pumped. Then they decided not to use NIN music in the movie...let down, like this award list.
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How typical.Pro-choice advocates always support a woman's right to choose... as long as that choice isn't to have a baby.
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And I hope PT finally gets his oscar....anyone remember him crying when magnolia didnt win for best screenplay? Fiona Apple gave him solace im sure
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mehhhh!!!
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Like "Best Trolling" or "Most Intelligent Posts" or "Best AICN Catchphrase" or "Best AICN Talkbacker Submitted Review", etc.
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have everyone put their top film in the subject bar, and tally em up after 24 hours. some more anti-oscar choices would be good too: funniest movie, best popcorn movie, best scene, biggest disappointment (not to be confused with worst movie), best comeback, etc.
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you missed - .... has chosen HD DVD, here's why-flames on optimus = nipples on batman-chocolate covered pussy juice
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You know it's true!!!
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"I'd like to thank the Academy of Insanely Cool News." Someone had to say it.
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best adjective dipped in confection-coated bodily fluids.
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2007!!! besting the year the matrix sequels hit is no easy task, but 2007 managed to suck even more balls. Spidey 3 and PotC 3 were both huge disappointments. Pirates managed to salvage a bit of dignity at the end but Spidey sucked from start to finish. Meanwhile Fantastic Four continued to disgrace itself while making tons of money, and Die Hard went PG-13. The Borne sequel was my least favorite of the 3, and Transformers was even dumber than I expected and made me see why people hate Bay so much. Here's hoping 2008 lives up to the hype.
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Is they're out for less than a couple of months and snatch up the awards, however Ratatouille is the best film of all 2007. Period.
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Even if it was only a teaser. Owned. As did the Speed Racer trailer. What's up with nominating a category but not posting your own favorite. Have an opinion, for crying' out loud.
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FUCK YEAH!!!
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Dec 27, 2007 10:52:00 AM CST
I love Talkbackers with Thesauruses or who just took first year
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Guys like Laser Pants and others, throwing around big words, big ideas, retreaded things they heard from the TA they want to bang over coffee. I love it. No seriously, 13 years ago, while still not dumb enough to show my age by typing that treacle, I too felt emboldened by my word power. Hellboy 2 Trailer rules baby!
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Tie. Stardust and Gone Baby Gone. Two amazing movies for totalyy different reasons.
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How about a little something like the razzies? Some of the best reading on this site is when you guys rip the movies.
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C'mon the guy is still the Aesop of cinema.
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most interesting talkbackers.
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The Orphanage winning Best Foreign film? Del Toro? Harry's fave? Who'd have thunk it? Anyway, I'm not even sure if There Will Be Blood is out yet in my neck of the woods, but I saw No Country for Old Men and it was disappointing. To anyone who has never read the book or knows the story in advance I can't help but believe you will be thrown off and let down. I got the movie, I understood its message, but wow was this movie advertised wrong. The Misleading Ad Campaign Award goes to No Country for Old Men. For those of you who haven't seen it yet here's a spoiler free review. 1 hour and 40 minutes of some seriously interesting build up, to be topped off be a rug pulling 20 minutes of what the fuck? I can honestly say I did not see the last twenty minutes coming, it was by far the furthest idea of an ending I had in mind. But it was far from satisfying. I'm certain the book offered more internal monologue and detail on these characters that made the ending of the book more understandable and more moving. But not having read it...Hugely disappointing. Well I've ranted enough.
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That's yer title of the next one.
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...is that bitches who complain about people who type "first" are just as annoying as people who say "first." Carry on, you goofy bastards.
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*sigh*
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I'm calling for the talkback version! Who's with me?!
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You are NEVER gonna live that down, Harry. These guys... uh, I mean... us guys...are gonna remind you that, sometimes, even Harry needs a self-edit button.
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It's a big turd of a film and probably the biggest disappointment of all time, saved only by Thanksgiving.
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Uhm bear in mind that the year Bill Cosby won "best picture Razzy" for Leonard Part 6, he sued them in court for not getting his award. In a settlement, the razzies were forced to create a physical award made out of silver and diamonds (three diamond studded raspberries in on a pedestal) and ultimately, Cosby had the last laugh.
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for a good movie to come out.I am afraid they remake it Hollywood style and call it Enemy of the State 2 with Martin Lawrence and Shia Lefuckhisname!
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...are just insecure about their own lack of vocabulary and literacy. It's part of the nation-wide Dumb-down America campaign that has been ongoing for many years. That's why intelligent people have felt shame for being well-read and tried to hide it, like the high school nerds who try to avoid making the dumb jocks in school feeling small, and then belligerent as a result, and why girls feel the need to act like airheads to attract guys because intelligent girls intimidate some people - the same people who accuse others of using a thesaurus when they hear a word they don't understand. This is why on every street corner there's a man, woman, or child saying, "Yo, yo wassup shizzle be bizzle bo gizzle" like a brain-injured monkey. It's all part of the Dumb-Down America campaign. Don't fall victim to it.
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As Catchphrase of the Year, TV division. Poor guy was getting damned every week during the Heroes talkbacks.
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congrats!!!
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you'll see a picture of him a couple of months into the year, looking all slim and metrosexual. I am Fucking Nostradamus (not literally mind you)
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have a BIGGEST DOUCHE AWARD!! Don't care if it's for a character or director or producer or whatever, but this one NEEDS to be a category, with LOTS of noms!!Also, how about these for other categories:Biggest Letdown, Biggest Shock Moment, Best Fight, The Hard-On Award (for the best FUCK YEAH!! moment of the year . . . see 300 for examples), Best Death, The Tear-Jerker Award (not for the saddest, but best moment that made everyone tear up . . . The Notebook woulda won that year, for example), New Best Friend Award(for the favorite character of the year, leading or otherwise), and definitely something for the worst of the year, like Biggest Refund.As someone mentioned, MTV has some good categories, which is kinda wrong . . . this should be something for film fans like US, geeking out all over the place. It seems like focusing on MOMENTS in films from the year is better, rather than always picking the whole film . . . I know that can instantly multiply the noms by a million or so, but does anyone else feel that?Am I the only one that liked Once more than Juno? Just checkin.
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No shit. First the "Fat Harry Oscar," which made me chuckle, and then the Most Fascist Talkbacker Award for AnimalStructure. Node32774, you fucking rock, dude. Seriously. Much respect.
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An award voted on by 4 or 5 friends is never going to hold any weight. You end up with the results you have here, pretty unadventurous choices (not bad choices by any means, but it could have come from a group of NY Times writers, and AICN has never been about being the same as traditional media).
First you need to have nominees not just winners, the nominees need to be decided by as wide a group of 'editors' as possible. Then you have to include the TBers in the voting process. Yes it is going to be tough to do without it being a shambles, I would require separate registration with a confirmation email to the address on file or something, and I would also count the TBers votes as 50% and the editors as 50%.
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AICN. Nice work, gents.
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For the record - in the nominating process - my pick for top supporting actor was Casey Affleck for THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD - but Javier and Phillip Seymour Hoffman got more support on staff.
Also Moriarty and I voted for PERSEPOLIS, not ORPHANAGE for Best Foreign Film, but again - majority went the other way.
As for GEEKIER categories, we'll see. At this point, we are wanting to comment seriously upon the major awards as a collective. However, we'll consider it. As for Mr_X's prediction.... I don't go in for the Lapband till sometime in April/May from what the doctors tell me. -
There is no such thing as "1st annual", it should be "Inaugural"
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The big franchise movies mostly sucked - I mean, was anyone actually directing Spiderman 3? - but really great films kept on pouring out of the upturned Hollywood feedbag in 2007. If the AICN awards seemed a bit unadventurous, maybe it's because they were celebrating some flat-out awesome movies.
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Harry if you really are going through with it, good luck. I myself, truth be told, did this 19 months ago. I went from 311 to 173. So, if you are really doing this and not busting chops, best of luck to you my man.
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Anyone who watches Juno and walks out thinking it is Anti-Choice is either an idiot or missed huge portions of the film. And... nothing is more insane than idiot anti-pro-life zealots who think that anyone who suggests that actually having a baby is anti-choice???? I'm pro-life and pro-choice. I wish there would never be another abortion ever again. Not going to trade a women's right to decide what she does to her own body to end abortions. I certainly would never suggest an abortion to anyone unless all other options are exhausted. It's OK to protect life while also protecting an individual's right to privacy.
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For the person or people who most deserve to suffer the same fate that befell Mr. Andrew Meyer. I nominate Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman for The Bucket List (based solely on the godawful previews). Any other nominations?
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Eastern Promises? I thought it was well done, but I thought Viggo and Cronenburg did much better work in History Of Violence..just my two cents..
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Casey Affleck and Hal Holbrook gave the best supporting performances this year.
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The unforgivable exclusion of Vern will be allowed to slide this time, since it's a half-assed dry run for something a bit more fully-assed next year. But if Vern gets dissed again, I wouldn't want to be you if I were me.
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Awarded to a movie you know is a steaming pile of shit but you liked it anyway for mysterious reasons.
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A lap band is to stop you getting aroused while thinking up lines about chocolate covered pussy juice right? I tight iron band around your lap?
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Hot Rod, for the cool beans scene and the "Two of Hearts" parking lot dance scene. Balls of Fury, for any scene with Christopher Walken. "Okey Dokey Artichokey".
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Does anybody else start getting a little weary of every media outlet, Tom, Dick, and Harry giving out awards?
You know, if you want to do something different, why don't you have Twenty Years Later awards. Call them the Perspective Awards or something. With the end of year rush, you see some genuinely embarrassing awards given out in the heat of the moment -- mistakes which surely wouldn't be made five, ten, or twenty years down the road. This self-generating awards-giving seems as much about ego as anything. Like Woody Allen said, "Awards... all they do is give out awards... Greatest Fascist Dictator: Adolf Hitler..." -
Put some more effort into it and create some geek categories and BAM! Awards I might actually are about.
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the movie awards save the Screen Actors Guild's ones, I would gladly partake in this. Besides, it's either that or more reality TV. :)
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Because a REAL facist would never allow you the freedom to express your opinion...you fuckin Com....I'm sorry...can't continue...
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Dec 27, 2007 1:46:34 PM CST
Ellen Page is BEAUTIFUL? If ya like 14-year-old boys, maybe...
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Was I the only one watching Hard Candy that was rooting for the bad guy? Thanks to that film, I'll avoid all Ellen Page vehicles in the future. I'm allergic to Adam Sandler as well, but for significantly different reasons.
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You'll be okay. We've got more than a hundred years of cinema out there and a couple thousand years of literature. Worst comes to worst, there are always people to interact with. I'm sure you can find something to do. ;-)
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"You need THE ROB ZOMBIE 'YOU FUCKED UP' AWARD. And each year you send the winner a copy of Rob Zombie's 'Halloween' with a note fixed to it which simply states: 'You fucked up'.
"Uwe Boll is exempt however because otherwise he'd win every year."
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I'm with you on Hard Candy. I was pulling for Patrick Wilson all the way.Having the victim turn the tables on her aggressor is an interesting setup but in the movie she's always the aggressor! There was no 'turning the tables' bit. Very annoying.
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Most people here seem to agree that the list thing (while fun to read) can get monotonous. However, a HALL OF FAME type of competition would be interesting. You could follow the same guidelines used by the major sports HOFs, mix in your own criteria, change the eligibility from 5 years post-retirement to 5 years postmortem (since many people in the industry hardly retire, they pass on while still working) and you've got yourself an annual KINGS OF COOL (temp name) balloting thing goin'. You could involve the talkbackers, or not, somehow if you choose to. Maybe the first few years you could induct more than usual so you can get a bunch of the obvious choices out of the way quicker and start working on getting in the people that wouldn't typically receive the recognition (the 70s B-Movie stars, forgotten silent cinema masters, etc). Sound good?
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is RDJ in Zodiac. That's still my favorite movie this year though I haven't seen TWBB yet. Supporting actor is loaded this year. In addition to Bardem, PSH and RDJ, I really liked Tom WIlkinson in Michael Clayton. That's another solid movie that flew under the radar.And I agree with what a lot of people have said about Best Trailer and Best Poster awards. The build up to movies is this site's foundation so it makes sense to recognize that.
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are usually dominated by shit no one has seen? like the noms come out and people are like wtf? did i miss that? there is a whole year of stuff to choose from and usually it is the crap they sneak in between xmas and new year's
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I know I use Acronyms and Abbreviations sometimes. But you sir went overboard. BUT I with you and Zeke25:17 about Ellen Page. People wonder why To catch a predetor is such a huge hit and can't believe that there are that many pervs out there. Just look at this site and see which girls get talked about the most. Page, Knightly, and the Transformers girl. All of which have similarities to little boys and underage girls. What happened to just hot dumb big brested women? Is it not cool to like them anymore?
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You say Communist like that's a bad thing.
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Yeah, I noticed that too after I posted it. In my defense, RDJ was the only one not used in this TB, err, talkback before. To make it easier to recognize and still easy to type I'll refer to Philip Seymour Hoffman as PhilSeyHo and Robert Downey Jr. as RobDowJu from now on.Another thing I don't get about Ellen Page is that she doesn't just look like a 14 year old, she carries herself like a 14 year old. At least Knightley kind of acts like a grown up sometimes.
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You're saying I'm a pedophile for liking Megan Fox? Sheesh. (I was gonna say "save that argument for nerds who like Emma Watson", but that girl is getting hotter and hotter by the second). Anyhoo, Megan Fox is hot as hell dude. Calm down on that one.
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And the nominees are............
Grindhouse, The Invasion, Lions for Lambs, Walk Hard, Rendition, Catch and Release, Next, Redacted, The Assasination of Jesse James, and Evan Almighty -
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Well it's obvious right??? The movie that could barely make 10 million more dollars than a film released in 1978. What a joke!
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Change the word "last" to "list". I obviously will not be receiving one of those talk backers awards.
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worst use of a cool comic book villan goes to................Spider-Man 3 for Venom.
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than Nic Cage deserves a category to himself.Ghost Rider, Next, National Treasure. Let the debate ensue...
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change the word "backers" to "backer". I have a drinking problem.
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Bad film Face/Off 2007.
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Little hurt I wasn't asked to partake but I have been on hiatus so it's not the end of the world. That said, the guys put together a great list with really only one choice I take exception to (The Orphanage? Really? Better than The Diving Bell and the Butterfly AND 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days... I think not) and I can't wait to check out AICN's discoveries for myself, especially The Signal. Anyways, I plan on sending in a complete Top 10 list with a complete list of awards in a couple days but for now, here's a link to my year-end awards over at the Colorado Springs Independent website. You'll see we're in agreement on DDL, Bardem and Blanchett. Enjoy and be back soon with a look back at 2007 and an in-depth preview of 2008, which is shaping up quite nicely.
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any other kind of extremism. It's all violence and death. You could take any ideology or philosophy, take it to an extreme and use it to perpetrate terror and murder. The question is is communism inherently extremist. I don't think it is. Fascism on the other hand is inherently extreme, yes?
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"I have a drinking problem."And of course that sentence you got off without a hitch. :)
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I look back at a role like Blow Out, and it's a shame, cuz Travolta showed real promise as he grew into "adult" roles. Now he puts on Cabbage Patch make-up and gets a Golden Globe nom.
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AnimalStructure (huge surprise) for turning a talkback about the best movies and performances of the year into a discussion of fascism. In fact, I think he deserves some sort of lifetime achievement award. If you can call what he does an achievement. Here's the thing, AnimalStructure, if you're constantly having to defend yourself from people calling you a douche, well. it might just be because you're a douche.
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It's rare, but this year the "best film of the year" is actually the best film of the year. Of course I'm refering to No Country For Old Men.
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Ya gotta admit he was baited, but damn if he didn't chomp down on it.
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Best movie of 2007.
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is cool, it's that cynical asshole ZombieSolutions you gotta watch out for.
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THERE WILL BE BLOOD as best film of 07. It represents blood for oil. More importantly to dems. The ills of Republicans.
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Every other time he's just being a douche without provocation. He's Paul W.S. Anderson to ZombieSolution's Uwe Boll.
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Like "best lesbian kiss" which is both homophobic and demeaning towards women. Joblo already has the market cornered in sleazy film coverage. You don't need or want to go down that route. I will lose a lot of respect for you if you do.
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best comedy: knocked up
biggest disapointment: spiderman 3
best soundtrack: 300
breakout actor: Seth Rogan
worst film: license to wed
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Nice!
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Has absolutely zip to do with the Republicans and the current quagmire of an energy crisis we have in the world today. THERE WILL BE BLOOD is an evergreen about the nature of obsessions, greed, personal ghosts and the nature of success above all else. Its a human issue, not a political one.
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I'm the bun!
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"THERE WILL BE BLOOD is an evergreen about the nature of obsessions, greed, personal ghosts and the nature of success above all else."
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I don't know really. I've seen just about every film this year. The only film that got me jumping out of my seat screaming at the screen in excitement, was the car chase at the end of Deathproof. Don't know if that counts for anything though.
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You're gonna need a bigger boat. I'll just pretend there's a "t" at the end of your first name to make that joke work.
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dont do it man. I am too of the larger size and over the last 8 weeks have lost 14 kgs (im in Australia guess thats about 30 pounds)
How?? Every morning eat piece of fruit. for lunch I have salad with tuna or beans. for dinner eat normal BUT drink water all day not soft drinks or juice. then exercise for 30-60 minutes at night 5 times a week.
its easy .. everyone should do it. And I indulged Xmas day BUT ate soup all boxing day to balance it all out.
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what are the behind the phrase ...it's an evergreen? Isn't that a tree.
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what are the behind the phrase ...it's an evergreen? Isn't that a tree.
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Fuck you cunts.
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thanks for your link to the CO Springs Independent, are you in the Springs area? I live in Kansas about 3 hours from CO Springs, just wondering, if not, hey it's cool you're sending crap into the CO Springs Independent. The Springs is one of my favorite cities
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why is it that films from over 3 months ago that arent fresh in peoples minds are never nominated.
How about next year or this year posters nominate awards and also vote on them. and I bet ET or some other lame TV show may give it some attention.
I still love my who should retire from acting award.
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Can't you tell he only responds to important people, sheesh.
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Im bored at work and would like an answer
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loves it like a loves blow jobs
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sorry watching THIRD MAN. To answer your question, LAPBAND is the route I have to take. I must take this radical step in order to insure the loss. This isn't the Gastric ByPass - which some people seem confused about. This is the same process that Guillermo DelToro had and has nearly a 100% success rate with 0 fatalities to date. It's also non-invasive and is an in and out surgery in a single day. With a very quick recovery.
I can lose 60 lbs doing what you advise - but once I hit about 70lbs lost - it always seems to level off and begin to gain back. This surgery means 130lbs lost in the first year - with an additional 75lbs lost in the following 7-12 months. Given I'm flirting with 400lbs - this is absolutely necessary.
Surgery is covered by my insurance, so it's no out of pocket. I've been approved, so I'm just going through the steps leading up to the surgery in April. Due to an old impact back injury - I can't do serious exercising till I pull about a 125 lbs off me. This will do that. And I can reclaim my physical self. It's all good.
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Sinestro Corps War. FUCK YEAH.
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granted this year had more good movies, but last years' movies were GREAT. I mean CHILDREN OF FUCKING MEN, Pan's Labyrinth, The Fountain, Babel, The Departed, The Prestige, United 93, The Queen. Either way last year had CHILDREN OF FUCKING MEN.
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Transformers. Ironhide yelling "Sam get to the building" then clocking his guns and then him and Ratchet protecting Sam by firing their big guns at Brawl. That stood out for me.
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That double page spread of the Seven Corps War. Hal and Kyle fighting Sinestro. Coast City standing by Hal. Superboy Prime and the Anti-Monitor. The Blackest Night 2009 Teaser. AHHHHHH. Best Ever.
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I hate that cunt.
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Sounds like it will be successful for you mate. you will feel good once you can see your own feet again. In Australia we see films like 4 months after the US ( Superbad for example not even released on DVD yet and Bourne Supremacy released today) and your site helps me to know what to look forward to.
and your aussie correspondent is so good at what he does. all you guys are. I will let you get back to Third man.
Can I recommend two films for you to watch and maybe review. Bad boy bubby and equilibrium. Bad Boy Bubby is about a 35 year old man who never leaves his home and shags his mum and kills his cat and when he finally leaves the house is amazed at the world. And equilibrium stars C Bale and is similar to Minority report. -
URL for that one, please...
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That is all.
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do you want me to tell you what happens fri morning in the states .. G W Bush makes more enemies .. QT postpones his latest film while he gets his addiction to Kanga hats under control ... kevin Smith laments about ever making Jersey Girl ... and Michael Jackson gets a starring role in Hulk 3 - you wont like him when his horny
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were you tempted to say ..... best comic book ever!!
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I like K-Bell's nunchucks. They look squeezable.
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Snorg Tees.Bring those lovely Snorg Tees gals back to AICN for 2008 please, Harry.
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"You Need Glasses" Award, to those who thinks Kristen Bell is anything but five-alarm hot.
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Long may K-Bell rule in 2008.
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Seriously dudes. No Country was very good and I've yet to see PWA new one but holy shit . . . EASTERN PROMISES was nuts.
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I'd like to get some kind of decent reflection of the filmists of the year, please Vern . . .
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making post on the talkback. the stephen man. the stephenator. getting the HEADGEEK to respond to you. Welcome to the important people club. You're now a chosen one, but only one of us gets to go inside the Mothership.
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Harry and I go way back ... about 3 hours way back.
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the stephenator .... i'll be back... its lunch time biatches.
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That Vern film review that quickly degenerated into horseeffing. The beginning, and end of Equinas.
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Part II of the Jim Cameron phone call.
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ON SET SEX AND THE CITY PIX ! ! 1 ZOMG !
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The Toshiba HD-DVD and here's why.
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'Michael Bay and Shia are back for Transformers 2"
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The Meredith Viera straddling the BatCycle photo.
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The Soprano series finale.
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"Harry has chosen HD-TV and here's why." Followed by; "While on my honeymoon I have watched some HD-DVD titles." Last but certainly not least; "Harry has chosen [INSERT WHATEVER HERE] and here's why."
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that part where that whirling, clicking hunk of metal (i couldnt tell which one it was) fired off some rockets and guns and shits and was all like "BAM BAM BAM" and this other metal thing was all like "oh yeah! BOOOOM" and this other guy went "CRAASSSSH!!!" and then a hot girl was onscreen and a robot pee'ed on a dude, and another robot started break dancing and saying he liked jazz. best movie EVARRRR!!!
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I guess there weren't any good films released in the first six months of the year. Either that or film critics have short memories. Which is why I think there should be bi-annual film awards. It's ridiculous how film critics fall for the fall Oscar bait every time. They eat that shit up like candy. They fuckin' love it like a fat kid loves cake.
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How did I Am Legend swing product placements? Isn't it set after the end of the world? Jesus man, Will Smith is utterly ridiculous. Remember that ten minute Converse/Pizza Hut porn at the beginning of "I, Robot"?
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AICN
Hands down. I surf around, I'm sometimes unfaithful, but I always come back to this bookmark. Next to Outlook, my blog, and facebook, this site has become one of my top daily stops. I love watching the talkbackers go at each other. I love the differences of opinion among the AICN staffers. Above all, I admire how the site congeals into a cohesive whole with strong voices and palpable leverage in the industry. It's all about the industry, this great puffing, churning, ceaseless money-making machine that, with no small amount of blood, sweat, tears, and talent, manages to produce stories that are worth telling, movies that are worth seeing. The strong voices here that I've begun to seek out, Moriarty, Quint, Massawyrm, the head geek himself -- your audience has grown with you and watched your writing styles evolve and mature, your tastes change over the years, and your indestructable will to dive into cinema coverage seduce and destroy the films, their makers, the industry, and your readers.
Respect the cock! Tame the cunt!
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bikini clad ladies to present the awards. And not the invisible disembodied floating fat man.
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love ya post dude. tame the cunt - are you living in a fantasy land.. as hard as u try you cant control it.
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They count too as well as some of your core reporters, expecially the ones who've been with you for ten years like myself. Like Lonegun pointed out, "Black Book" would have been a great choice.
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Dec 27, 2007 10:08:51 PM CST
Conservatives believe in the individual, Liberals believe in soc
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Animal Asshole, you really are beyond deluded.
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Absolutely! I didn't mean to exclude the rest of the roster; I just rattled off the top of my head (and probably subconsciously picked favorites, which doesn't discount the others).
I miss the Seduce and Destroy 800 number. It have me hope when all around was dark.
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wow. the possible nominee list is too long. as is the "best positive review of a friend's movie" award. but Grindhouse is a shoe-in there.
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eat it haters.
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"There Will Be Blood" opens at the Cedar Lee on January 11th. See you there!
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My vote goes to George Clooney in MICHAEL CLAYTON for "You're fucked!"
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Although, "Are We There Yet?" > TWBB. I had it on my WORST of 2007 list.
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I love the Coens, best filmmakers working today, original, unique, everything I want in a film. Love Lebowski, O Brother, Fargo, Crossing, all except Arizona, which felt like a Sam Raimi film (he co-wrote). Raimi is actually my favorite filmmaker, but I like my Coens, Coen, and my Raimi, Raimi, whatever that means. Anyway, I love the Coens, but after seeing No Country I don't want them to go back to their old stuff, this new path is amazing and perfect. There are few perfect films and it's open to interpretation of course, but to debate No Country is to suggest one really don't like movies, and there are few films you can say that about. It's perfect, I've seen it twice and can't wait to see it again. Perfect. And Deakins is the king. Haven't seen Blood yet, and I don't care for PTA, but the trailer looks amazing, and this site seems to love it, so it's worth a viewing...better than No Country, I doubt it, but I imagine that DDL rules again!
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Great, I'm excited to see it, I appreciate PTA, he's quite good, but none of his films have totally hooked me, but DDL is haunting in the trailer...can't wait!
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No Country - trendy movie for people that don't care about story. there's no ending. Anyone that says they "get it" is too fucking smarmy for me.
300 - so boring I fell asleep
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NCFOM>>>Zodiac>>>>TWBB (and several others, including Ratatouille)
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Serious lolz: "trendy movie for people that don't care about story."
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And it's a wonderful 'discussion' flick. Fun to talk about and to try to get below the various levels. The sort of thing you would come to expect from a Coen Brothers movie. I'm glad I saw it and want to see it again. That being said, I have a difficult time considering it to be a great movie specifically for the great divide it has created between its viewers. If it is TOO complex, or misinterpretable by its viewers, then it HAS done something wrong. And that, to me, lowers its credibility. Which doesn't mean it's a BAD movie. It's not. It just doesn't mean it's an award worthy film.
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... I completely disagree. Greatness isn't about making everyone feel the same way and giving a homogenized experience to every audience member. Some of the greatest art hotly divides audiences, and that's as it should be.
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Mysterious Yobo, you are, by a definition, a real douche bag. That is my opinion, and I know you don't come to this site in search of these "opinions", but I'm giving it to you and the world anyways, because, well, that IS what this site is for. To be clear, it's anything you want it to be. You only vcome here to get a feel for the movies objectively before you see them? Okay, great. Well others come here to intereact with others that like movies and share what they think. I know Moriarty or Quint or Harry might not have the same opinions or think the way I think, but they all have their own personalities that really come across in their writing if you read each of them enough. You don't give a shit about that you say? Well whatever man, but don't come on here and say that these awards are bullshit and no one cares what "they think" about stuff. That's a blanket statement, and it's wrong, as blanket statements about stuff tend to be. The list was cool. I thought The Orphange was pretty lame actually when I saw it at Fantastic Fest, but hey, that's my opinion man. Good job AICNewsers.
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I can't argue with your choices, but is this really the kind of awards program you want to sponsor? It's just one more out of dozens like it. Why not use categories that are more germane to AICN? You know, best screen homicide, hottest vixen, best comic book hero, etc. Yeah, I know it won't be taken all that seriously - neither are the raspberries or the MTV awards - but they're a lot of fun. I can see it now - The 2008 AICN Geek Awards. That should draw a lot of media attention. Maybe you could even let us loyal geeks in on the nominating and voting process. Do a live award ceremony. Tape it. See who shows up.
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(As is my right of course). Some say that the movie falls flat at the end, others disagree. Arguments that are, IMO difficult to deny on either side. I can't help thinking that the Coens did something wrong somewhere in this movie. That there were rules that they set up throughout the story, in what they do and do not show the audience, but then they discard those rules, and I cannot for the life of me, come to a conclusion as to WHY they did. As I said, I really enjoyed the movie, the characters and the story they told, but I also see this as an error in direction, and therefor, reducing its value among other great works.
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Some of you need to stfu because you're talking shit about movies you have never seen and you look retarted. Why these movies don't get wide release is because assholes go see Alvin and the Chipmunks or National Treasure 2 in mass that is why. Anyway I am sad that Breach and Zodiac have been ignored for not only these awards but the globes which usually set the stage for the Oscars. Those two movies I found very interesting with great performances. I agree with a lot of people here about NCFOM because that actually seemed like an action movie more than a drama to me. For next year greatest trailer, baddie, and tit shots should be in it. for the record Hitman wins for tit shot horrible movie but a great pair on that Russian girl made up for it!
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The Diving Bell and the Butterfly needs to be seen by all and really should be getting a lot more awards hype.
It's been over two months and I still can't shake Eastern Promises. I imagine most talkbackers are seeing this for the first time on DVD, but the crowd reactions when I saw this opening weekend in a packed theater will not be forgotten by me anytime soon. A few walked out after the first scene. Which is so gangster. Oh, and the clothes in Cronenberg's other masterpiece, The Fly, are really fresh.
Juno is good, cute, but not great. A good portion of the dialog feels forced and extremely self aware about how "hip" it was.
Die Hard 4: Underrated.
No Country: Overrated. Yup.
Slept on: Control, Once, The Hoax, The Kingdom
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Diving Bell will be #1. And all those fun little awards you guys are talking about are coming soon. The CO Springs article was only half the list... just need to finish ordering my top 10 and i'll try and send it in before the end of the month, hope you guys enjoy...
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Mmmhh. I must confess that my initial reaction to this aicn award thing was rather ...skeptical. Another group of people giving out awards? Later on I realized that the true reason for my negative feelings was the fact that this list of great films is another painful reminder for some of us people from overseas. Another hint that we'll have to wait another couple of WEEKS and MONTHS for TWBB and NO COUNTRY... But fuck my childish moaning. aicn awards is a great thing as long as the personal favs lists will live on...and MiraJeff won't be one of the voters. (I don't know what makes me dislike him. Maybe it's posts like the one above.)
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And to not think so having seen both is to suggest one doesn't really like movies. Seriously.
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Most Annoying, Most Jingolistic, Most Witty (me), Most in need of psychriatic care, etc, etc,
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longshot7, go ahead say whatever it takes to make yourself not feel utterly stupid.
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I've been scanning these postings...and there are quite a number of interesting ideas, worthy of consideration and perhaps an alteration, here and there. I also like the idea of a separate branch aimed at talkbackers, which contribute to making this site thrive. And what a hoot that would be.
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I don't remember this much hype for awards, i know theres always a bunch. But I think what put it over the top was the whole Dewey Cox making fun of it. It was funny yeah. But it just shows that with so many awards whats the point. They are trying to just sell movies with awards now (Charlie Wilsons war). Why bother trying to let us know what the movie is about just tell us how many awards its up for and I am sure people will see it. I do always love it though when a moive uses a AICN as one of its main promos.
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Not that an agreement from me means anything, but I agree with your sentiment on art. Take Pink Floyd for example. Years ago they were asked what was the meaning of The Wall. The band members responded by stating that it had no singular meaning. Each band member interpreted it differently, and that was how they expected their fans to take it as well. They expected it to mean something unique to each of their fans.
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Let's see here:
- BEST SUMMER BLOCKBUSTER (yeah someone else suggested it first, I agree)
- BEST ONE LINER
- BEST TRAILER
- BEST SPECIAL EFFECTS
- BEST KIDS MOVIE (seriously)
- BEST MOMENT (like what's the single best moment in a film that just blew you away in the last year) -
Or not ...
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As it stands I will have to go with Lep in Da Hood
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Classy Freddy Blassy owning Zombie Solutions.
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Once he was old and fat. My vote goes to his role as the Capt. of...THE DEATH SHIP
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Who thinks we should have an awards show that honors the Best Awards Shows? I don;t think we're that far away from that. Every year we get a few more award shows on every damn channel. Maybe they could call them - The Awardies.
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I think the Emmy's has a category that includes the awards shows.
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Typical. I just think that if AICN is going to have awards, they should be a little emore original than Best Film, Best Actor, blah, blah, blah.
Let's remember, the reason The Academy Awards "used" to be so special is becuase there used to just be "The Academy Awards." Now there are awards shows and awards for "Best Film Maker Utilizing Legos as a Medium." The reason that no one gives a crap about awards shows is becasue there are sooo damn many of them. It just doesn't mean much to be the "Best" anymore. Ah well. -
Because these awards seem to be missing "Most Pretigious Studio Lot". My stars are all hooked on food and beer. I need to win that one, or they'll constantly need me to drag/drop them to the set.
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I know he sucks. And he did Bloodrein. But what else has he done? Hes a frog right? French?
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Most Annoying - Ganymede 2010/3010
Most fucked in the head - AnimalStructure
Most loved - MCMXVII
Most foulmouthed/aggressive - messi
Most surprising us because he likes dancing with the stars - BringingSexyBack
Funniest Talkback screenname still - GusVanRant
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I'd have to go with Memories-of-Murder on that one. Although the way he manages to work Michael Bay into any and all topics is almost impressive in its stupidity.
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There Will Be Conservative Fucktards!
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goes to "Bayformers." So help me God if I hear "Bayformers" one more time I'm going to go Michael Douglas FALLING DOWN crazy and start shooting up the place. Also, here's an observation: why can't asshole AnimalStructure ever post anything on any subject without writing about politics? What a lame fuck. Okay, that is all.
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The Hunting Party. I liked that one a lot. Also, that was one of two great Richard Gere movies this year--the other being The Hoax. Those movies were great. Also, AnimalStructure is a fascist fuck. You know this to be true.
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I am now my own hero. :)
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That still makes me chuckle. From now on he is known as Michael bay Denis.
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I'm not an authority on the subject and I know you guys do read scripts, but I guess I am just in doubt that you read enough scripts for it to be appropriate that you hand out an award for the best one. It would be more credible for you to list the scripts you actually read.
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Dec 28, 2007 2:22:26 PM CST
Most Idiotic Talkback Statement other than any posting by M-O-M
by kloipy
"It's a Lion! It's Huge! It's Voltron." Fucking idiots
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A movie site that just flat out ignored the ridiculous award/PR/hype culture that's developed around movies. No Oscar coverage, no Golden Globe coverage, just keep on talking about movies like the awards weren't even happening. I know it'll never happen, especially with popular sites as this one, but it'd be neat to see the internet setting a standard of just respecting the art, rather than riding the established media's coattails in worshipping the artists.
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sorry Cruel_Kingdom had to do that,now please go Michael Douglas but I would rather see some TONY MONTANA action!
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I agree with you on The Mist. I think a couple years down the road it will get the respect it deserved
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Prince Caspian Pics-made possible by me, Lost Prophet, Just Pillow Talk, Ironicname, Skeleton Party, DocPaz, and some other fine gents
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and made it about Warwick Movies and soundtracks by Aerosmith, and we hijacked the Diary of the Dead TB and made it about classic cinema remade with zombies with names such as Citizen Brain, Breakfast Of Tiffany's, Guns of the Gnawthabone
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goes to Me and Pillow
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!!!!!!
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Can some say "Hey! Let's steal the Zone's idea of the Zonies and use it on the main board"?
I think YES! -
our statues are better anyway
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goes to the main page for their BLATANT theft of the zone's prestigious naval gazing awards: "The Zonies". For SHAME Harold. FOR SHAME.
Good luck with the lap band surgery, maybe it'll lessen your appetite FOR THEFT!!!!11 -
so I think the award for best AICN award show goes to The Zonies by default.
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The movie just came out and I am already sick to death of people talking about how awesome Diablo Cody is. I hate it when the media press all decide that someone whose film is barely even out is the new IT person. Juno is probably a good film but damn, there must not be anything else going on in Hollywood that they are all abuzz about this film and her. It almost smells like astroturf to me.
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did you read Vern's review of Juno by any chance?
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SPOILER. Awful film. Very tasteless ending. I don't mind a shocking/twist ending but just plain awful having to witness a father shoot his little kid in the head. well, almost witness it. And then... the mist lifts! the irony! AWFUL.
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If it was in "Squidbillies" I bet you would think it's funny.
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And while I'm at it... caught Jedi on one of the HBO's yesterday. You know what? It's a good movie. Much better than any of the prequels. Of course you're rolling right along and then you slam face first into the max reebo cgi band. they got one of those sand sciff guards playing the bongos for christ sake. And the fucking aliens are singing into camera. Oh god. I'm done. off topic, but had to get it off my chest.
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Awful as well. Just cute garbage. If you want a good laugh check out Tom's review of it on this week's Tom Scharpling Show from WFMU.
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unless we're talking about my Jedi post... in which case I'm sorry... the max reebo band really rocks, kind of a like an intergalactic beatles 'revolver' era sound... five out of five stars, the force is with them.
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I had my fill of daniel day in gangs of new york with that absurd accent and stache. One movie is enough. I'll pass.
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which is another reason not to see it. That was one of the most truly overrated movies last year. That kid played a character who was your typical disaffected, post-nirvana, punk ass kid... who wants to be a fighter pilot? riiiight, no such thing.
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you sure know your cheese..this Gouda is my personal fav http://tinyurl.com/3b3wcx
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You can never go wrong with some thinly sliced provolone. Makes any sandwich delicious!
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Just a thought.
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provolone makes anything delicious!
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i had a provolone cheesesteak for lunch.
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I'm launching a legal campaign against Aintitcoolnews as this thing infringe on several Zone copyrights and traditions.
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except I ran out of mozzarella and had to resort to Kraft deli-slices. Actually, it was pretty damn good. Oh, and No Country For Old Men was pretty good too.
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I'm a sucker for the classics.
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I liked Juno, but the first part of the movie (15 minutes or so) is just painful to sit through. Every line is supposed to be oh-so cute, hip and cutting. I almost gagged and walked out of the theater. But the movie settles down and the good performances take over.
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unless you like your sandwich to taste like it has Super-Putty in teh middle. Btw my cape and medallions are copyrighted & trademarked as well.
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what part of Kansas are you from?
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Actually Soylent, I'd say Karl Urban as Bones tops Shia. Don't get me wrong though, when I saw Transformers I was like....no way, you gotta be kidding.
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I don't see Shia as an action hero ...he is not the chief of the beef IMO
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as "or" in my head btw....I seriously didn't even notice until you mentioned it
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It's tragically easy to dispel this kind of blinkered thinking. Let's use contemporary conservatives as an example : mainly propped up by the massive swell of braindead evangelical christians, now excuse me but arent these preciesly the people who lobby consistently for a significant reduction in the rights of the individual to see, think and hear what they want, let alone do what they want (for instance what women choose to do with their bodies?!)
It's simply not going to fly to pull this capitalist bullshit that conservatives somehow create greater choices by putting moula in your pockets whilst you turn your brain off to dogma.
If you're talking about some OTHER kind of conservatism then your brain is so fucking politically warped then you're a lost cause anyway. Yeh Liberals have done bad shit too (and its a retarded stretch to include communist atrocities in that generalisation), but on the balance you pick a philosophy that you feel will serve human beings best.
Looking at the shitstorm created by a decade of conservative rule in various countries does NOT support whatever revisionist historical BS wankers like you inevitably start blithering on with.
Stay deluded for all I care..so long as the majority isnt as mentally warped we've got some vague hope. -
Just kidding!Beat the SHIT out of each other,but just with words!I have no idea who Ron Paul is(I am from Germany).AnimalStructure is keeping up really good(and I dont want to say he is right),but for one guy he gives a good fight.
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Going to shut the fuck up already? Nobody cares about your pathetic little first-year-of-uni political debates. Fuck off onto some stupid blog and bring each other to frenzy there, this is a TB about the best movies of 2007/AICN awards. It is not a place to meet other guys, now fuck off!
Also, the Coolsies (TM, me) should have a nice mix of the serious and the stupid awards - Best Film along with Best Quotable Line, as well as TB voted awards for the big categories. There should also be a Not So Coolsies (TM, me)the next night to recognize the worst of the year - all noms and awards voted for by TB'ers. Get this done...if you want some extra cash, stick a Donate button on the site...all who donate can be mentioned on the credits/website. -
OK, so it didn't have the same visceral impact as the Marine (?) who said it, but what the hey. :D
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provolone is insignificant compared to the power of the gouda.
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speaking of cheese...how 'bout a "worst of yy" awards?
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Cheddar...please. Nothing, NOTHING beats some melted provolone over a nice, big, juicy BURGER. Mmmmm... Grilled cow meat, slathered with some authentic Italian provolone!
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They must all be loved equally. Except head cheese. Head cheese is the devil.
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You are in a mess aren't you? Just the fact that you see the world in such simplistic polarized terms make you sound a fool. I'm sure you'll continue to be the hero in your own political melodrama. Keep on generalising, it'll keep you frothing and incapable of understanding that the world simply doesnt fit neatly into either divide.
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and yeh this aint the place for that kind of political dribble. Take it to some Fox news talkback or something. Stick to film where your taste just sucks.
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ANIMAL ASSHOLE! I love it.
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great. I feed off of vague responses that make no sense
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someone may already have made a suggestion, but the awards need a cool nickname (i.e. Oscar). I like a Coolie. Rolls off the tongue, and could be a little (big?) statue of our illustrious host..or maybe just a red beard.
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Dec 29, 2007 8:10:40 AM CST
Errr, just looked up Cookie on the urban slang dictionary online
by spifftacular squirrel girl
There were a number of things that a coolie could describe. Everything from a cigerette dipped in cocaine to a quickie in the snow.
I felt very educated reading some of that. -
Best Popcorn Movie, Best Sequel, Best Remake, Biggest Disappointment, Most Likely to Be the Next Uwe Boll, and "Damn You, Michael Bay!!!"I'd also like to see a category called: "George Lucas Raped my Childhood!"
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I think that should be obvious. Get the WETA guys to make up the statue. With hair!
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WTF? For this year, I nominate "Transformers" in the "What the Fuck?" category.
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I think that's a reasonable, and oft neglected, category.
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We should call it the "Smokin' Aces" award.
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It looked kinda mish-mashy, like Domino. Haven't seen Southland Tales, either, that would probably qualify.
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the "Best use of a song with the Konami code as lyrics as a touching theme for the lead couple" award? It would go to Juno.
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Sure it sucks as a movie....but where else can you see Mimi Rogers, Heather Graham, and a mid teens Lacy Chabert prance about together in painted on catsuits?
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Dec 29, 2007 10:46:07 AM CST
Juno & Ellen Paige & Diablo Cody=Great?????? Not in my book.
by the founder
Look Juno was a fine film, but guys please don't go overboard on praise for the screenwriter, and the film and Ellen Paige. Juno is a fine film with cute but good acting as well as good but sometimes a bit to hip or supposed to be cool dialoge. I did enjoy the dialoge by the way, but still the movie was obviously written by a gen Xer with all the references that i remember and to alot here i can see why it would come off as great wording. Juno is certainly a cut above the rest, but remember when Hollywood churned out movies of this ilk all the time? Well i do, but today when something good hits the screen it gets overrated sometimes. While i don't think Juno is going to get overrated except among the fanboys it was still a well put together film.
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ELLEN PAIGE!!!! Yeah!
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if only for raccoon eyed lacey and amazing designs.I wanna watch mongol
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thats it!
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Thanks Harry et al. Good to see AICN will put together its own awards next year.
Can we call them the "AiCNs" (pronounced Aikens)? -
1) The Lost Season Finale talkback that is still going strong.
2) The Bruce Willis talkback where Bruce spent all night trying to convince skeptical nerds that he was really Bruce Willis. -
If one of you big-shot Hollywood studio execs is reading this: Release the goddamn movie wider, dammit! I really, really don't want to have to spend four hours in the car driving to the only theatre for 70 miles smart enough to carry this. I just want you to know I fucking hate you, and your goddamned, motherfucking limited release bullshit. Go die in a fucking fire (or release the movie widely - I'll be happy with either).
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The Queen 2 thread hijacked by me with the fucked up titles "The Queen 2: Judgement Day" "The Queen 2:Tokyo Drift" and the sex and the city thread hijacked by another dude that was completely random. Best threads ever.
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I remember a moment in Crash with James Spader and Deborah Kara Unger that did it for me.
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we're spoiled in Austin with the drafthouse and paramount digging up old gems... inspire others to screen them too
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I named them.....ME!! They are the Coolsies (TM me) and the Not So Coolsies (TM me) for the shit stuff.
I've even added Coolsies to my Firefox spelling function....Yaaah! Game set and match my friends...the Coolsies!!! I will be responsible for a stupid repetitive phrase on this website, and Coolsies it is!
Coolsies, coolsies COOLSIES!!!!!!!!! -
Dec 31, 2007 11:23:20 PM CST
You should have split the screenplay to original and adapted
by the podosphere
like the WGA awards and Oscars do, and given the original to Diablo Cody.
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No care ever. fuck you
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How could self-declared "film geeks" leave out so many other categories, specifically "Best Musical." So, here's a nomination: "Across the Universe." Saw it the other day at a second-run $2-ticket theater. Maybe it was the setting - that spacious, old, non-stadium type - that took me back to the theaters of my childhood, but this film blew me away. What a timeless work. And it was refreshing to not recognize most of the stars. (It was a bit jarring to see Bono, though.) One hell of a musical if you can still catch it in a theater.
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You guys just proved you are supposed "intellectual" critics. They are good movies but come on, the best? pfah. Artsy fartsy pretentious gobbledy gook
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This film totally slipped under the radar. This is one of the best indie films over the year, BY FAR!!!
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That is...
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Most overrated screenplay. It's completely unrealistic the way the dialogue is written:
overrated
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A word which recently has been used liberally as a way of discrediting something without having to give a proper justification, most often when someone finds they have a disliking for a popular phenomenom and is resentful of those who embrace it. Often used by anti-trendies. -
No best scene showing a teenage girl's face burned off? C'mon! Remember your base.
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Your awards show kicked the shit out of Golden Globes this year!
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