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Published at:  Dec 23, 2007 10:03:05 PM CST

I am – Hercules!!

Catching up with some major magazines’ year-end lists:

Entertainment Weekly (Gillian Flynn):

1. 30 Rock
2. Pushing Daisies
3. The Sopranos
4. Planet Earth
5. Big Love
6. Dirty Sexy Money
7. Flight of the Conchords
8. Mad Men
9. Brotherhood
10. Andy Barker, P.I.

Entertainment Weekly (Ken Tucker):

1. 30 Rock
2. The Sopranos
3. CSI
4. Friday Night Lights
5. Tell Me You Love Me
6. Frisky Dingo
7. Burn Notice
8. Desperate Housewives
9. Life
10. Life of Ryan

Time Magazine’s Returning Series:

1. The Sopranos
2. Lost
3. 30 Rock
4. Friday Night Lights
5. Big Love
6. The Office
7. The Colbert Report
8. The Shield
9. Weeds
10. Top Chef

Time Magazine’s New Series:

1. Mad Men
2. Flight of the Conchords
3. Tell Me You Love Me
4. Planet Earth
5. Pushing Daisies
6. The Sarah Silverman Program
7. The Riches
8. Yo Gabba Gabba
9. The War
10. Kid Nation






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    Readers Talkback

  • Dec 23, 2007 7:58:56 PM CST

    Would've been nice to have them toast Veronica Mars

    by pennsy

    one final time.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:03:52 PM CST

    Good to see FNL get some more love

    by thefutureoffilm

    It's well deserved.

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  • Only thing worse was Dirt, in her opinion.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:09:52 PM CST

    I love Andy Richter

    by shivv

    but Andy Barker was just fucking terrible. Not funny at all.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:11:05 PM CST

    The Office and Dexter need more love

    by jabbayoda

    All these shows suck equally.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:15:14 PM CST

    FNL

    by magnum opus

    would get more love if these lists were made by teenage girls...

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:15:50 PM CST

    dexter isn't on a single list

    by ephor

    seriously, what is wrong with these 'critics'?

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:16:17 PM CST

    WHERE'S THE FRAKKIN' GREY'S ANATOMY LUB?

    by pennsy

    Well, where?

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:16:39 PM CST

    Forgot the [sarcasm] tags there, sorry...

    by pennsy

  • Dec 23, 2007 8:17:43 PM CST

    'Yo Gabba Gabba"?

    by pennsy

    Oooooooooookay...

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:19:05 PM CST

    and pushing daisies...

    by ephor

    just hasn't lived up to its pilot. I really want to love it but it's wearing thin already, only watched up to ep 6, have others downloaded and ready to roll just don't really care that much. So 30 Rock is good? I watched the pilot last year and found it so horribly forced. improved then? Maybe I'll give it another chance.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:19:37 PM CST

    Xiphos

    by pennsy

    You doing OK, what with being in the hospital and all? I kindsa went nuts on the Forgetting Sarah Marshall trailer TB; that stomach virus knocked that much out of me.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:24:18 PM CST

    The only thing worst than Dexter's acting ...

    by splungiest

    ... is its dialogue.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:26:02 PM CST

    Dexter is written by some guy who wrote Charmed

    by darthuser

    And you can tell. Great concept but horrible execution.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:27:54 PM CST

    There's a reason Brotherhood and Weeds keep making these lists

    by whoanecron

    They rule. But Dexter sucks ass.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:30:25 PM CST

    The writing on Dexter is awful!

    by katie geek

    It's almost as bad as Californication in the dialog department. But, yes, Weeds and Brotherhood are wonderful, as is Pushing Daisies and Mad Men.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:30:29 PM CST

    When did everyone start loving 30 Rock?,,,

    by danielkurland

    I love Tina Fey and Baldwin, but I just can't get behind this show, and people seem to be astounded by it now. Maybe it's because I'm bitter over Studio 60 still. And Dexter may ahve questionable acting, but the overall plot this season was fantastic, and one of the overall best seasons of a show I've seen in a while, and Hall's acting was fucking wonderful when he's on the phone, contemplating killing the guy who killed his mother, as well as when he's freaking out in the cabin (not with Doakes). Also glad to see Dirty Sexy Money on some lists, as they've been doing some pretty good work, but I just like how so frequently on the show, the relationships and roles each character plays are drastically changed.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:33:47 PM CST

    Frisky Dingo love...

    by buffywrestling

    that was kinda surprising. The rest isn't.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:34:34 PM CST

    Andy Barker was one of the best reviewed shows of 07

    by mach5jack

    all the critics loved it!

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31892

    and, yes, Dexter is a pretty poorly written show. its acting is quite bad in places, but its dialogue is consistently horrible.

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  • from that.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:38:34 PM CST

    Yea for Weeds and Daisies and Andy and Sarah!!

    by lisa bent

    Are people really surprised Dexter didn't make these lists? It has some of the worst writing I've ever heard. Like Viva Laughlin bad. Like Charmed bad (but I guess there's a reason for that)!

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:40:23 PM CST

    Ha! I forgot the Charmed guy writes Dexter

    by mose schrute

    Boy, it's not hard to tell!

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:40:46 PM CST

    Metacritic.com looks to be a pretty good catch-all for

    by pennsy

    TV critics' best-10 lists. Hopefully BSG will get on some of them.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:41:32 PM CST

    Yeah, some VM love would have been nice...

    by danielkurland

    CW fucking with the format for the last season did hurt them, but they still had some fantastic episodes, particularly the resolution to the rape arc. I need to give the 3rd season a second viewing I think.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:43:48 PM CST

    Dexter writing = really bad

    by mcgowanleg

    But it'll never be the worst thing on Showtime as long as Californication stinks up that channel. How the same execs picked truly great shows like Brotherhood and Weeds is shocking

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:45:09 PM CST

    TVGuide's Matt Roush's terrific 10...

    by pennsy

    1) Mad Men; 2) Planet Earth; 3) 30 Rock; 4) The War; 5) Pushing Daisies; 6) Lost; 7) Sopranos; 8) The Shield; 9) FNL; 10) Showtime as a whole (Dexter, Weeds, Brotherhood, Californication)

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:45:14 PM CST

    I'd also like to see How I Met Your Mother...

    by danielkurland

    on some lists. Granted, a lot of the shows on these lists (Sopranos, Mad Men, Lost, etc.) are better shows, but they are consistently funny and well written, and they've tried a lot of different, more adult things in their latest season. I'm not surprised to see the lack of praise when considering the current TV landscape, but it'd be nice is all.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:47:22 PM CST

    Agreed, Daniel on HIMYM...

    by pennsy

    Their finale for 2007, The Platinum Rule was one of their better episodes. Flashbacks within flashbacks that didn't confuse the viewer and everyone's timing was pitch-perfect. A most underrated show.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:49:04 PM CST

    woot for 30 Rock

    by waggy

    the show was my #1 for the year too, so it's nice to see some critics share my thoughts. (incidentally, the wire topped both ew lists last year, and was my favorite of '06 too) i'd love to see things like this this translate to more viewers (ditto for that best comedy emmy), but i worry the show will go the way of Arrested Development sooner rather than later.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:51:34 PM CST

    Agreed Pennsy, that and...

    by danielkurland

    the whole aftermath with Ted and Robin I think is being handled very well (especially in the Thanksgiving episode), and is having pangs of Jerry/Elaine as opposed to Ross/Rachel. Also, are you aware that Rob Thomas had a second meeting with DC about a season 4 VM comic, which basically he said IS going to happen, as long as the WGA doesn't have a problem with him writing a comic that is based on a network property?

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:55:26 PM CST

    this whole 'charmed guy writes dexter' crap

    by omarthesnake

    is totally irrelevant. The same guy responsible for the piece of flaming shit "Yes Dear" also did the brilliant "My Name Is Earl". And ya start dissin' Earl, I'll have to come over and scratch up all your precious "Oz" DVDs.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:55:41 PM CST

    What? Where's the love for Cavemen?

    by smash drama

    Best damn half hour sitcom since Happy Hour. And no, I am not kidding.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:57:51 PM CST

    Are you guys being ironic about Dexter?

    by ian216a

    Or are you just fucking stupid? Also - fuck anyone who doesn't have Flight of the Conchords at the top of their list - they are fucking stupid too. The best piece of acting I saw on TV all year was when Jermaine was denying that he was a bit gay after singing a song to Bret which admitted that he put a wig on him and imagined he was a woman. "This is another of your weird songs Jermaine", "In what way?" Perfect.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 8:59:47 PM CST

    Omarthesnake...

    by danielkurland

    I understand the argument you're making, but in your example, at least in my opinion, it doesn't work. I never was a big fan of Earl, and it seemed like people were just giving it support and saying it was "edgey" because Jason Lee was involved. I'd say it's as good as "Yes, Dear", however, in it's first season, I did see that it had a number of writing staff from Arrested Development, Sports Night, and Andy Richter Controls the Universe, so I gave it a shot, but I don't think they did anything nearly as good as they had in the past. My opinion not withstanding, I do respect their change of moving it to a prison this season (that is what they did, right?). I always appreciate it when a show tries a huge creative leap like that.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:00:17 PM CST

    "Sometime's I think you hear what you want to hear"

    by ian216a

    Jesus I cry with laughter every time I see that

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:03:04 PM CST

    My Name Is Earl isn't on these lists either, for good reason

    by mose schrute

    It's awful! I forgot the guy who created Earl also created Yes Dear, but that adds up. Lot of shitty shows out there!

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:19:06 PM CST

    Dexters writing is bad?

    by jd lux

    Coulda fooled me.I watched the last five episodes of the first season almost straight through I was so hooked.Best show on TV.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:19:55 PM CST

    Tell Me You Love Me

    by ender's jeesh

    Probably to grown-up for the likes of the AICN crowd, but it was a great show. Also, I keep waiting for Earl to NOT be funny, but it just doesn't happen. 7/22 ep's of Lost were spectacular. And HIMYM is the funniest network show, edging slightly 30 Rock, though the single fnniest thign I've seen all year in any medium was Alec Baldwin protraying Tracey Morgan's entire family in a therapy session.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:28:58 PM CST

    Ender's Jeesh...

    by danielkurland

    is that Baldwin scene online anywhere? I wouldn't mind checking it out. Also, the first book that the first season of Dexter was based on is much, much worse than the show. I was so surprised to find that the novel actually had less detail than the show did. They made a ton of creative changes, all for the better.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:35:19 PM CST

    frisky dingo

    by seekshelter

    surprised me. the first season was kinda blah... this season pulled it together and actually gave a structure to its plot...

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:37:09 PM CST

    I'd love to see a VM season 4 in comic book fashion

    by pennsy

    The WGA wouldn't block that, would they? It's not TV, it's not an award show they want nuked, it's just a comic...

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:42:15 PM CST

    You wouldn't think the WGA would have...

    by danielkurland

    any pull, but based on what Thomas has been saying, it seems as if whether this comic happens or not is dependent upon their approval. I'm sure they don't control it, it seems like more of an issue of Thomas not wanting to piss them off .

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:49:07 PM CST

    Frisky Dingo...

    by danielkurland

    I'm the wrong person to comment on it, but I will. I know very little about it, but I heard it was the folow up show that he people behind Sealab 2021 were doing. I was a big Sealab fan, so I checked it out. I've only seen the first episode, but I enjoyed it. Still fairly non sequitor like the majority of the Adult Swim stuff, and not as good as say Home Movies or Venture Bros., but not bad. From what I gathered, it's about a super villain named Killface who's trying to take over the world or something to that extent. I'm sure someone who's seen more than just the pilot could give you a better idea.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:50:03 PM CST

    Frisky dingo has been hilarious

    by ryaskre

    I hope Cartoon Network didn't give up on FD already. Sealab was funnier than Aqua Teen at a time when ATHF got all the attention, and now this new series from the same creative team seems to have been put on hiatus midway through the second season. I love the way it relies so heavily on its dense continuity as the basis for the humor in the show, yet how in one episode the direction of the plot can shift drastically. If you give it a chance from the beginning and watch them all within a short span of time it really is a great little show.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:51:05 PM CST

    Enders

    by rev. slappy

    I agree. That Baldwin scene at the group therapy had me staring at the TV with my mouth agape. It was just brilliant. Sadly I am surprised to see no critic love for Milf Island.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:56:43 PM CST

    DanielKurland

    by ryaskre

    The rest of the first season is great, you should check it out on bittorrent or something if you can. I think they're putting out a DVD early next year, but for now you can probably only find it online. Season 2 starts off in a completely unexpected place and goes off in a new direction entirely... it's pretty cool, but they only showed half of them and then stopped airing episodes.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 9:58:17 PM CST

    No Dexter or John From Cincinnati!?

    by johnnys2

    Wow, lame.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 10:01:04 PM CST

    Here's the Baldwin clip...

    by danielkurland

    http://gawker.com/news/acting/did-alec-baldwin-just-finally-win-an-emmy-315536.php
    And I apologize if I stretched the talkback out, but I very seldom post links here. Baldwin is great in it, and his Tracy Morgan is spot on, but I think this is a good example of a clip of why I don't like this show. Baldwin is terrific, and I like bits and pieces of the show, but Morgan's reaction afterwards is just too much. I know the type of character he's supposed to be playing, and the purpose of the group therapy, but he wouldn't actually believe that Baldwin has BECOME his father.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 10:09:25 PM CST

    Dexter is plotted like a Saturday morning cartoon.

    by darth girlfriend

    What kind of idiots would do the things the characters in Dexter do? It's a show for kids whose parents won't take them to see real R-rated movies yet. Oh, and whoever said the dialogue is terrible was right about that too. Is anyone really surprised Dexter and Californication didn't make the critics' lists?

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  • Dec 23, 2007 10:17:35 PM CST

    Californication improved a lot I think...

    by danielkurland

    I agree with the comments made here regarding the first two episodes, and the characters were pretty thin. By the end of the season though, I was really enjoying it and actually gave a shit about the characters. The second last episode was particularly good. I might be in the minority here, but I thought the show definitely improved a lot, and found its footing by the end. And yeah, the creator's previous credit is on Dawson's Creek. I don't give a fuck. The writer of the Fantastic Four movies co-created Twin Peaks. Shit happens.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 10:32:47 PM CST

    My top 10 List

    by mindchaotica

    Hey All,

    So I thought I would post my top 10 best show on tv. In no particular order.

    10. Bionic Woman
    9. Pushing Daisies
    8. Journey Man
    7. Heroes
    6. Samantha Who?
    5. K-Ville
    4. Moonlight
    3. Women Murder club
    2. Flash Gordon
    1. Saving Grace

    There are a ton more great shows out there that i like, but like i said this is just a top 10 list.

    Shows Like Reaper, and Burn Notice, and Chuch, and Life. Just to name a few more. The rateings aside this had to have been one of the toughest seasons for my TiVo. And after january I am going to have to find room for the Terminator series and some other new shows that look like they are going to be really good.

    Have a nice day!
    Mindchaotica

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  • Dec 23, 2007 10:33:26 PM CST

    A little upset to see no South Park...

    by danielkurland

    Just because they had a really good "season" this year, and Imaginationland was some of their best work in my opinion.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 10:40:36 PM CST

    Where be my...

    by godmode

    Journeyman!

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  • Dec 23, 2007 11:24:04 PM CST

    Brotherhood

    by crazyjoedavola

    COME ON SEASON 3!!

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  • Dec 23, 2007 11:30:52 PM CST

    Andy Barker was gawdawful, no matter what critics say.

    by tallboy66

    Post as many quotes from reputable journalistic sources as you want. That. Show. Was. Mother. Fucking. Shit. End of story, end of show. And good fucking riddance because it wasn't good. At all. CRAP!

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  • Dec 23, 2007 11:38:52 PM CST

    I just don't get the 30 Rock appeal...

    by br1947

    I tried watching it, I want to like it... just can't. Even with Tina Fey's MILF factor... just doesn't come together. Glad Pushing Daisies made the list tho.

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  • Dec 23, 2007 11:44:38 PM CST

    Wait... Flash Gordan??? WTF???!?!!?!

    by br1947

    Mindchaotica, please tell me theres sarcasm in there that I'm missing...

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  • Dec 23, 2007 11:58:11 PM CST

    Wow, I watch less than 10% of those shows.

    by grando

    I haven't even heard of some of them. I guess I'm not a critic then..... like I give a shite.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 12:02:31 AM CST

    30 Rock is brilliant.

    by rev. slappy

    The recent Christmas episode was a classic. I fear it will flame out soon, it is too good to last. I was glad when Arrested Development went away because it was starting to show signs of strain. I have the same fear for 30 Rock.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 12:33:32 AM CST

    30 Rock ROCKS, and so does RON PAUL

    by shogunshin

    30 Rock is hillarious, thanks in large part to the ultra sexy TINA FEY, who i always had a crush on! on a sidenote, RON PAUL also rocks!!! RON PAUL wants to END INCOME TAX and bring PEACE to the UINTED STATES OF AMERICA!!! Google RON PAUL YOUTUBE, to see what this great PATRIOT can do for YOU, and how you can save THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS a year, if RON PAUL GETS ELECTED in 2008! so, in 2008, i will continue to drool over TINA FEY, and i will VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!

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  • Dec 24, 2007 12:34:22 AM CST

    I see the Dexter backlash has well and truly begun...

    by sledge hammer

    Geeks. Regular (and predictable) as fucking clockwork.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 12:57:32 AM CST

    im gonna be that guy to say woot LOST

    by burgerking

    Finally some critical recognition......

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  • Dec 24, 2007 1:02:17 AM CST

    br1947 will VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!

    by shogunshin

    br1947, hey i do not work for RON PAUL. but it seems, you are so hypnotized by the mass media, it is a shame. some people are so blinded by CNN, NBC, Rupert Murdoch, they truly believe giving away YOUR OWN hard earned cash is a good thing. most likely, you are in the upper tax bracket, so you do not have to worry about handing over some banker your money. but for me, TEN THOUSAND dollars is a lot of scratch. the ONLY reason im trying to spread the word of RON PAUL,is because i want PEACE, and i want my OWN MONEY, in my OWN POCKET. upper 'class' people who make so much money, LOVE the way things are going, so why would they want change. they love watching CNN and RUPERT MURDOCH and think that is the true news. well to me, i want FREEDOM, and i want PEACE, and i want MONEY! so NO i am just a working joe, trying to make a living, and i need the extra 10 grand a year, so i can hopefully one day buy a house. but since we do live in AMERICA, and since right now, we still have FREEDOM of speech, then for SURE, you are entitled to think it is good to 'pay taxes.' man, they really got you hypnotized, people COMPLAINING about giving away cash!!! if you are so rich, send me some cash! ha. so in 2008, i will vote for FREEDOM, INDEPENDANCE, the CONSTITUTION, and for NO TAXES. and in 2008, i will VOTE FOR RON PAUL. google RON PAUL YOUTUBE to find out what this amazing PARTIOT can do to save YOU thousands of dollars! in 2008, i am going to VOTE FOR RON PAUL.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 1:03:50 AM CST

    br1947, at least i can make up my OWN mind

    by shogunshin

    br1947, after you do YOUR RESEARCH and see how AMAZING RON PAUL IS, you can then decide if you want to keep paying an unfair ILLEGAL income tax. good luck to you, im assuming you are ultra rich, so why should you worry about the working man. one guy is working for US, and his name is RON PAUL.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 1:07:15 AM CST

    FLASH GORDON is from the makers of CHARMED, not DEXTER

    by thick mcrunfast

    Christ, what a bunch of moronic lemmings in this thread. The head writers on DEXTER have previous credits on THE SHIELD and THE SOPRANOS, and it shows. The writing is superb, and the confrontation with Doakes was no less than the best moment on TV this year.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 2:15:13 AM CST

    Dexter fucking rules

    by genre.comeback

    Man, I have been reading this talkback and cannot for the life of me understand the Dexter hate. I love Deadwood, the Wire, the Sopranos, VM, Lost, etc. Just to show that I really cherish quality writing. How is Dexter poorly written? And for those making this argument, what the hell on TV is written well, if Dexter is a pile of dogshit? If you say Criminal Minds, I will mentally tear off your balls. And try to make the argument the Michael C. Hall is not a pure genius; your credibility will go out the window. He has perfectly encapsulated the psychopath.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 2:36:06 AM CST

    In refuting the Charmed claim

    by genre.comeback

    Basically, you who say it was written by the people who created Charmed took ONE of the many writers of Dexter (and who hasn't even written very many episodes) who was also a writer on Charmed, and claimed this writer is directly responsible for both shows. That's some creative freedom right there. You are aware that producing is very different from the creative aspects of the show right? Are you the people who buy it when a commercial claims "from the people who brought you..."? If you can't tell the difference in quality between Dexter and Charmed, you probably want to find another site to frequent, cause you clearly have no idea about what makes TV or movies work.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 3:29:00 AM CST

    another top 10...

    by executor

    1. The Wire 2. Lost 3. Friday Night Lights 4. John From Cincinnati. 5. The Shield 6. Rescue Me 7. Curb Your Enthusiasm. 8. Battlestar Galactica 9. Pushing Daisies 10. Boston LegalHonorable mention: Psych, Burn Notice, Grey's, Flight of the Conchords, 30 Rock, How I Met Your Mother, Lucy Daughter of the Devil, Kyle XY Haven't seen Mad Men, need to download before S2 begins. Just started watching Dexter S1 and love it too.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 3:31:02 AM CST

    oh, and Heroes too...

    by executor

    ...an honorable mention I missed because this season made me forget how much I liked last season.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 3:47:08 AM CST

    Kid Nation!!!

    by tonagan

    Nice to see it get some press. If you didn't see it, you missed what Defamer called "The Great Candy Riot of 2007".

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  • Dec 24, 2007 5:03:38 AM CST

    even though 30 rock is unfunny

    by krycek08

  • Dec 24, 2007 5:55:18 AM CST

    DEXTER has some of the best writing on television.

    by brokentusk

    I can't take anyone seriously who claims to have watched an episode of DEXTER and thinks that the writing is anything but excellent. The acting is great - particularly Michael C. Hall (hence his nomination) - and the plot is constantly twisting in unexpected directions, where Dexter is always one step ahead of the audience. Behind LOST, it's the best show on television. Why it isn't receiving more love on these lists is incomprehensible to me, but then, THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSES JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD was hardly recognized on year-end lists either, and that film was fantastic. You can't please everyone, but people who bash DEXTER either don't watch much television, or have very poor taste. It really is that simple.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 6:15:31 AM CST

    Here's an idea...

    by br1947

    Let's all google the phrase "RON PAUL CHILD MOLESTER". Because we certainly want to do our research and make sure he's not right? It's not like having many people search for the exact same phrase will change google algorithms and associate those words...

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  • Dec 24, 2007 7:43:34 AM CST

    Brotherhood is aight..

    by stalkeye

    but my one complaint is that the pacing can be too damn slow at times, especially when it comes to character development. I wanna see more ruthness and cunning from Micheal and have him climb higher within the ranks of the Irish Mafia. The cliffhanger was lame with the exception of Tommy's "confession" to his brother. And the skank he was banging is FUGLY, Blake (Masters) need to cast better looking chicks for the next season.Other than that Issacs stood out as he would have made a great live action Punisher. (based on Marvel's MAX comics.) Speaking of live action adaptations, WTF happened to that planned HBO series based on DC's Preacher?I guess after the flop that was Ghost Rider, HBO nixed Mark Steven Johnson's project.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 8:57:11 AM CST

    No South Park?

    by judge briggs

  • Dec 24, 2007 9:13:06 AM CST

    No love for Wire? No episodes in 2007, that's why...

    by pennsy

    Final Grades, its fourth season finale aired in December 2006. Hence, not on any 2007 lists.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 9:28:43 AM CST

    Andy Barker DVD

    by bloo

    I haven't seen anything and it's possible I just missed it but does anyone know when Andy Barker will be released on DVD. I spent a Sat last winter watching those eps on NBC.com I think when they put them up before the premire episode, Great stuff, in my opinon anyways. See here's the deal with the "Top 10" lists, it's all subject to someone's opinonlike me, I know I'm not a critic (well not a TV critic) but if I made a top 10 list I couldn't put Weeds or Dexter or Flight or The Wire on there because I don't have HBO or Showtime and therefore can't watch them, if I was to make a top 5 list I would have to put on LOST, Andy Barker, The Office, BSG, 30 Rock

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  • Dec 24, 2007 10:58:26 AM CST

    Dexter haters, give it a rest

    by ddodge

    With the shitloads of truely horrible tv out there you think Dexter is bad? It is obvious you guys don't watch the show, so shut the hell up. Michael C. Hall is amazing. Along with The Wire, Lost, BSG, Flight of The Conchords and Tell Me You Love Me, Dexter is as good as tv gets.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:01:20 AM CST

    captboulder.... is rolling, rolling, rolling. OK bad pun.

    by mindchaotica

    I thought all of those shows were either just mind blowing in their greatness, or they have some very good growth potential. There are some shows that just grow and get better over time, not every show out there can be like Heroes, or Lost. Some Shows just build slowly and with some good writers (Lets all hope the Writers Strike ends soon) and some really great shows. They can have some really great series. Everyone in the entertainment industry is looking for the breakout hit that grabs all the ratings. I look at what is good, could be better, but will grow into it. Which I feel really allows the viewer to grow and invest in the characters.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:10:20 AM CST

    br1947.. No Sarcasm here.

    by mindchaotica

    no, no there wasn't any sarcasm. I really liked Flash Gordon. I think it is really good, and has the potential of being a great show. I would admit there have been a few weak eps, but over all it has been a very good show. I mean take the Dresden Files that was on Sci-FI. I thought it was really good, and I have read all the books. I feel that was another show that could have grown into a great show, if it had been given some more time to do so.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:13:09 AM CST

    DEXTER sucks, but you cry about VERONICA MARS being canceled?! H

    by darth bauer

    You're lame.

    DEXTER is one of the best shows on tv right now. Period. There has been no other show like it, so I can't see how someone can criticize the writing. If you said you didn't like the show because of the premise, I could give that to you. But to say the writing sucks is ridiculous. Lock yourself in a room for a year and you won't come up with anything near as complex as the first season, and nothing near as great as the second season.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:14:46 AM CST

    And how DAMAGES was in no one's Top 5 is an f'n tragedy.

    by darth bauer

    PUSHING DAISIES is the shit, too.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:17:44 AM CST

    A list without Dexter is bullshit

    by neo zeed

    Dexter had a perfect season this year.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:18:51 AM CST

    We should rank AICN contributors from best to worst...

    by tonagan

    Now THAT would be fun. I'm willing to tally the votes.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:20:18 AM CST

    Damages, is what FX was left with.

    by mindchaotica

    I watched Damages, and I felt that they may have over used the formula that they used with The Sheild and with Nip/Tuck which are both fantastic shows. I would also say the same with The Riches. They have gone to the well one to many times. but that is just my opinion.
    Have a nice day!
    Mindchaotica

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:23:56 AM CST

    I'm glad to see The Riches get a little bit of love

    by spifftacular squirrel girl

    I thought that was a fantastic show but it never seemed to get as much of a push as the way subpar "Dirt" on FX.

    I also agree that Dexter was probably snubbed a little too much by some of these magazines.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:41:41 AM CST

    Animation

    by shut the fuck up donny

    I ageee with other posters that South Park needed more love this year. Trey and Matt were definately back in form compared to the previous season. Furthermore, I think we'll see more animation on the list next year as these critics are finally seeing it's a valid medium on television AND since Venture Bros will be back for another couple seasons (unencumbered by WGA concerns, I might add).

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  • Dec 24, 2007 12:50:22 PM CST

    I don't care if the Wire didn't air in 2007...

    by alonzo mosely

    The episodes that didn't air, because they weren't made, are still better than just about everything on those EW lists...

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  • Dec 24, 2007 12:57:01 PM CST

    Question, then...

    by pennsy

    Was 2006 a better year, TV-wise than this year? Even if there hadn't been a writers' strike? I'm feeling a sizable degree of 'meh' toward these lists, myself.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 1:04:42 PM CST

    Brotherhood and Dexter

    by prooferfromhell

    Anyone heard anything official on whether Brotherhood has been picked up for a third season? If it's not renewed, I'm officially canceling my Showtime subscription. I've been hooked on that show since the first ep, and it's the only show on TV I MAKE time to watch - sorry in addition to LOST, which cannot come back on air soon enough. Recording is not an option for either show! Don't know why all the hate for Dexter. It may not be a masterpiece, but it doesn't suck. Michael Hall is adorably creepy.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 1:05:34 PM CST

    Xiphos

    by prooferfromhell

    And Xiphos, I have no idea who you are or why you were in the hospital, but glad to hear you're better!

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  • Dec 24, 2007 1:34:36 PM CST

    Danielkurland are you bitter about studio 60

    by slappy jones

    being a complete load of fucking garbage that was pretty unwatchable and got the fate it so strongly deserved by bombing so embarrassingly well?

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  • Dec 24, 2007 1:36:25 PM CST

    dexter is great by the way

    by slappy jones

    its a great great show

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  • Dec 24, 2007 2:45:25 PM CST

    Glad to see some

    by nabster

    recognition for the Shield which is one of the all time greatest shows, and to the brotha whom said where is the Wire, I completely agree, the wire needs to be seen.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 2:52:50 PM CST

    In order for these critics' lists to have any credibility...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...they need to retroactively adjust their previous years' lists to put the first 4 seasons at the top of their lists or they shouldn't be allowed to compile "best of" lists at all. Actually, none of these shows even belong on the same list as The Wire. Comparing it to something like Dexter or CSI (seriously, CSI being on this list is itself enough to invalidate it completely) is like comparing Jaws to Anaconda. Seriously, there's TV, there's HBO, and then there's The Wire.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 2:54:55 PM CST

    "first 4 seasons"

    by ebonic_plague

    "of the Wire," obviously. I stand by my hyperbole 110%.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 2:59:38 PM CST

    The Office is still the best show on TV

    by browncoatjedi

    COME ON!!!!!

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  • Dec 24, 2007 3:05:50 PM CST

    *raises hand to disagree w/ebonic_plague about CSI*

    by pennsy

    CSI had a renaissance last season; the Miniature Killer storyline was compelling as well as the fate of Sara and her eventual departure from the show. The clones of it can fade away in the next instant and TV would be better for it. The original, in this case, was and is the best of the CSI's. It retook Grey's Anatomy out to the ratings woodshed. That alone is enough to give kudos to it. But The Wire's catch phrase this season, "Read between the lines" is pretty much pitch-perfect.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 3:07:19 PM CST

    The Wire

    by mrx67

    was the best show.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 3:43:48 PM CST

    The creator of Samantha Who

    by emeraldboy

    is the daughter of our troubled leader, bertie aherne. and Rte passed on it. We will never see this program. They got screwed did rte. never produce a sensationalist program if you cant back up the claims. This summer a person that hardly anybobdy in Irish journalism called justine Delany wilson did to rte what andrew gilligan did to the bbc. She produce a shoddy book called High Society in which she had on record a catalouge of people who took drugs. these included a nun, an aer lingus pilot, a barrister, an irish court judge and former govt minister. Then along came the tv program and all hell broke loose. this was a drama documentary, so actors were brought into play the various characters in her book. Justine delaney wilson says that she destroyed the digitised recording of the poltician(the irish govt minister was dropped and an irish politician called robert was inserted). Justine Delaney wilson went to new zealand and is not coming back. Rte had its internal inquiry. Rte said that it will not be releasing that report to the public.The best line came from Matt Cooper who when questioning the RTE's Chairperson Mary Finan said that they had outsourced their reputation. When questioned about this they said they stood over the program which they said was true. Rte came out and said that they looked justine delaney wilson in the eye and told her they believed her story. they did no background checks, they did no rigourous editorial analysis of the program before they aired it. now they are screwed. Cecelia Aherne dad is in the shit in Ireland. When he was minister for finance he had no bank accountant. yet you have to sympathise with him because he couldnt divorce his then wife miriam, cecila's mother. She is a very talented writer. now we know where she gets it from and you should hear those tales he is telling. Amazing stuff.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 3:45:48 PM CST

    *Raises finger to gesture at CSI*

    by ebonic_plague

    Kidding! (This concept of rational, non caps talkback is an exciting new concept) For me, CSI makes the 60's Batman show look like a police documentary, but I suppose there's room for both (and more) on the TV schedule. I just can't take much network TV seriously anymore. Seriously.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 4:31:32 PM CST

    Mindchaotica, to each his own I guess

    by br1947

    I watch Flash Gordan and find it entertaining in an odd sort of "what the hell was that" way, but I just can't figure out any way to rank it among the best shows of the year. I mean even the original was deliberately bad (at least I hope that's what they were going for) in a comedic way. But I do completely agree with you about Dresden, I loved that show and wish it had gotten a better shot.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 4:50:30 PM CST

    Gillian Flynn Is Acutally A Wicked Novelist

    by mjgtexas

    Go to your Barnes & Noble and search out her Sharp Objects. A very pitch black mystery...as for my top 10: (1) Lost, (2) 30 Rock, (3) The Colbert Report, (4) Friday Night Lights (but declining rapidly), (5) Pushing Daisies, (6) South Park, (7) Mad Men, (8) The Shield, (9) Battlestar Galatica, (10) The Sopranos

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  • Dec 24, 2007 5:19:02 PM CST

    the wire?

    by smutpeddlar

    if your list does'nt have the wire on it,you have a crap list

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  • Dec 24, 2007 5:20:57 PM CST

    Crappy lists

    by jacksparasites

    Here's my top 10: (1) Battlestar Galactica (2) Pushing Daisies (3) Damages (4) The Colbert Report (5) Heroes (6) Mad Men (7) South Park (8) The Riches (9) Lost (10) Chuck (Runner-up) Scrubs

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  • Dec 24, 2007 6:44:42 PM CST

    The public just ain't buying Tina Fey

    by thegreatwhatzit

    Take note, NBC: stop trying to shove this minor cult "figure" (defimnitely not an icon) down our throats. Hiring her as co-host of an SNL-Christmas special? Jesus. Monitor this weekly chestnut: Fey has not been on the show for 2-3 years or whatever. Take note: 30 ROCK isn't low-rated, it's practically invisible.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 7:22:12 PM CST

    Love For 30 Rock

    by anton_sirius

    ...is just further proof of how dead the sitcom is right now. Baldwin would be funny reading the phone book, and quite frankly would be FUNNIER reading the phone book than having to deliver some of the gawd-awful lines he's given on that show. And he's the only entertaining thing about it.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 8:15:10 PM CST

    My "No one gives a shit" Best of List 2007

    by eggbeater

    1.The Wire(they didn't have a season this year but the top spot is still held for them)
    2. Lost(Specifically the last two thirds of the season. As far a great season finales go, no other show touched them)
    3. Flight of the Conchords(I think I spelled it wrong but still it was a great show and very unique)
    4. Dexter(I just like this show. Fuck the haters)
    5. The Sopranos(I actually loved the ending)
    6. Always Sunny...(Great show. You got to watch it just for Charlie and DeVito)
    7. Veronica Mars(Guilty pleasure. And I don't feel guilty about it.)
    8. No Country for Old Men(Wait...what list is this for again)
    9. Prison Break(Huff some glue, smoke a joint, and turn on this show. You will at least be entertained)
    10. 30 Rock(This show is great at times and brilliant at others. It's no Arrested Development, but it'll do.)

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  • Dec 24, 2007 8:39:49 PM CST

    I have 2 books published myself, and here's my 10.

    by pennsy

    1. BSG; 2. Veronica Mars; 3. How I Met Your Mother; 4. Friday Night Lights; 5. Lost; 6. Mad Men; 7. Planet Earth; 8. CSI; 9. Pushing Daisies; 10. Planet Earth

    The two books are here: http://tinyurl.com/378lk2.

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  • Dec 24, 2007 11:01:48 PM CST

    No House and no Dexter?

    by grendel824

    No House M.D. and no Dexter = no credibility and/or taste.

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  • Dec 25, 2007 12:06:03 AM CST

    What the fuck, my list...

    by danielkurland

    In no order:

    1. Veronica Mars; 2. Lost; 3. The Sopranos; 4. Mad Men; 5. How I Met Your Mother; 6. Flight of the Conchords; 7. Dexter; 8. Curb Your Enthusiasm; 9. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia; 10. South Park...Honorable Mentions: Sarah Silverman Program, Pushing Daisies, Dirty Sexy Money, Studio 60, The Office, Weeds, Reaper, Californication

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  • Dec 25, 2007 6:47:29 AM CST

    PickedUp

    by pennsy

    *laughs uncontrollably*...you need a pickup.

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  • Dec 25, 2007 9:54:15 AM CST

    The only thing worst than Dexter's acting...

    by filmcans

    are people who use the word "worst" incorrectly.

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  • Dec 25, 2007 12:15:50 PM CST

    I'm glad Conchords get some love!

    by bentoboxx

    I love that show! I like 30 Rock to, it has really grown into a funny show. BSG is great. I also LOVE Top Gear on BBC. I kinda dig Chuck and Reaper as well. Heroes has lost the magic it had last year...Its turning into 90120 with mutants.

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  • Dec 25, 2007 10:54:16 PM CST

    yo grabba grabba!

    by shogunshin

    that is too funny. its a show created in part, by KIDROBOT, the coolest toy company on earth. i can't believe it made a best of list.

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  • Dec 26, 2007 4:35:20 AM CST

    a big FUCK OFF

    by gavinvandraven

    to DEXTER haters. my second job is manager at a blockbuster store. ive gotten more people hooked on that show than i can count. going on my recomendation, most people watch the first season in a single day and come back singing its praises. some have even gone so far as ordering showtime just to see the 2nd season! it is that addictive. if you give it a chance, and not just passively watch an episode and say "its crap", you will be hooked too. the show is brilliant. great writing, great acting, and twist upon twist to make you NEED to see what happens next. if you dont like DEXTER, you've only seen one episode passively while wasting your time trolling the internet or looking at porn. season 2 was the best television i have ever seen...... oh, and FUCK "Lost". stop finding more people already, it's not called "Found". may they all be eaten by GALACTUS. Heroes sucks also. LAME super powers abound! http://www.cracked.com/article_15747_10-worst-powers-have-on-heroes.html

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  • Dec 26, 2007 7:36:46 AM CST

    so little love for life

    by jaireaux

    The little woman and I have been calling Life the best new show on TV and we've converted a lot of people to believe it too. Of course, then we saw Yo Gabba Gabba and it almost took the title. (Seriously -- it's hard to beat Biz Markie teaching the littlies to beat box.)

    oh, and there's always a party in my tummy!

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  • Dec 26, 2007 9:06:36 PM CST

    Are you guys insane? Dexter is the Best Show On TV!

    by the outlander

    Bad writing and acting?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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  • Dec 27, 2007 12:03:47 PM CST

    test

    by exasperilious

  • Dec 27, 2007 12:46:49 PM CST

    Flight of the Conchords!!

    by fart_master_flex

    That show is pure joy. I love that show so much. Too bad the Season 1 DVD was so barebones. Oh well, as long as season 2 is in the works.

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  • Jan 02, 2008 11:03:41 AM CST

    Ka-Kow!

    by stefan mctierney

    The absence of Dexter is weak, but Frisky Dingo is a great addition. It's a little non-sequitur-y but next to the Venture Bros. it's by far the best thing AS has going.

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