Dec. 22, 2007, 2:04 a.m. CST
His name sounds like a porno flick.
Dec. 22, 2007, 2:23 a.m. CST
To me anyway. Why bother with stop motion when they over do it and make it look like CG? I had the same problem with Corpse Bride where they decided to CG all the things they couldn't do practically. If you like stop motion so much just put up with its limits. It makes it all the more charming in my opinion.
Dec. 22, 2007, 2:40 a.m. CST
Clean your glasses, harry.
Dec. 22, 2007, 3:20 a.m. CST
when she watches this. I'm sure she's already watched it.
Dec. 22, 2007, 3:38 a.m. CST
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Dec. 22, 2007, 3:59 a.m. CST
holy cripes!!! a new stop motion animated film, by selek no less! i am blown away by the spectacle of the artistry in this footage, and i cannot wait wait wait for this film to be released in 2008. also in 2008, i will VOTE FOR RON PAUL. Ron Paul will GET RID OF TAXES! is there ANY OTHER candidate out there, who will ELIMINATE income tax??? they all speak of 'lowering taxes' but one man, RON PAUL, is going to ELIMINATE income tax!!! think of what you can do, when you have THOUSANDS of dollars extra per year!!! you can buy HUNDREDS of new dvd's, hundreds of new video games, or better yet, buy yourself a new home! so, in 2008, i am for sure going to check out selek's new masterpiece, and i am going to VOTE FOR RON PAUL!
Dec. 22, 2007, 4:08 a.m. CST
Surprised, I expected something a lot worse, but that looks pretty promising. Cute animation, too. I love the teaser poster they came out with ages ago, wish I could buy it somewhere... YAY FOR STOP MOTION!
Dec. 22, 2007, 4:21 a.m. CST
Oh My Goth is actually a book, maybe you've read it. It's a piece of crap. Coraline looks nice, but I'm really interested in the soundtrack that's going to be done by They Might Be Giants.<p> Shogunshin, Ron Paul does indeed rock.
Dec. 22, 2007, 4:28 a.m. CST
GET RID of TAXES??? Ron Paul may be a good guy, but he isn't the second coming of Jesus. /ot ...I'm actually really excited about this. I love the book, love Gaiman and McKean, and love Nightmare Before Christmas.
Dec. 22, 2007, 4:56 a.m. CST
Now we need a Neil Gaiman + Guillermo del Toro movie.
Dec. 22, 2007, 4:57 a.m. CST
Dec. 22, 2007, 5:20 a.m. CST
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
...never again. So many other better mixed drinks out there, it's just not worth it.
Dec. 22, 2007, 5:34 a.m. CST
I would love to see someone do an adaption of 'American Gods'. I could see Tim Burton directing, someone who can juggle the gothic and fantasy elements while retaining the dark humor of the story .
Dec. 22, 2007, 7:37 a.m. CST
by Larry of Arabia
Eliminate stop motion footage that looks like CGI! Great footage there. I love the breathing and the children huddled on the bed. It's creepy without being scary, and should give kids plenty of fun nightmares.
Dec. 22, 2007, 7:53 a.m. CST
Dec. 22, 2007, 8 a.m. CST
Selick DID do that before Coraline. Not 100% stop motion but people seemed to forget this one for some reason...
Dec. 22, 2007, 8:06 a.m. CST
I've always been amazed that these 2 have never hooked up on a project yet. I hope that they do one day, and Tim hires Dave McKean as his Art Director. Geekgasm.
Dec. 22, 2007, 8:52 a.m. CST
Coraline looks all wrong!...she looks like a girl from some stupid little CW show...the book was already beautifully illustrated...the character design was already done for them! Why change her?! DISAPPOINTED! Coraline and stop motion should have been a perfect match. Damn.
Dec. 22, 2007, 9:36 a.m. CST
but I'm starting to get a great Gaiman DVD collection. With Mirrormask and Stardust recently added, I am becoming very happy. Can't wait for Coraline.<br>Eventually, when mo-cap is perfected and becomes super-cheap, maybe we'll eventually get a definative 20-hour Sandman (I know, just wet dream).
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:08 a.m. CST
If there was ever one property that just *shouldn't* be adapted, Sandman is that property. Unless Hayao Miyazaki has the next 5 years or so open, then MAYBE.
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:10 a.m. CST
'A Short Film about John Bolton' - no it's not the UN guy, but some goth artist. I just picked it up. Haven't watched it yet. It has a live 'performance' by Gaiman that I'm looking forward to seeing.
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST
hey mods...can you stop these fucking asshats from fucking politicing on this fucking site. It's getting old.and I see enough of clowns on TV
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:29 a.m. CST
as a limited television series. IE treat it the way Sin City was except on the small screen for HBO or Showtime. It should also be a mixed media piece. The real world shot in glorious HD, and the fantastical universes/realms/domains and worlds should be various forms of animation: stop motion for the dreaming, Moving collages for Delirium, etc. Course I have been thinking about this project for a damn long time. Hell what I just wrote above is the essence of what earned me an A for my final project in Producing class.
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:31 a.m. CST
Yes, and he also did Monkeybone. That's why Harry specifically pointed out that this is his first ALL stop-motion film.<P> I like Gaiman, but Beowulf was embarassing. Here's hoping Coraline lives up to our high expectations.
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:53 a.m. CST
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST
by Evil Hobbit
trailer looks fantastic, can't wait.
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST
That trailer looked like some dark ride at a Disney Resort. It doesn't look good at all. It looks cheap and since Paul Berry died ,its not going to have as good animation as the Monkeybone character had(the movie sucked but it did have good aniamtion.
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST
by Evil Hobbit
simply stunning animation.
Dec. 22, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST
I think that might be feasible. ?
Dec. 22, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST
...why didn't they use Dave McKean's cover and illustrations as the starting point for this...I am not usually a purist nit picker, but this looks lame by comparison. I was really looking forward to this...oh well.
Dec. 22, 2007, 1:55 p.m. CST
This looks like a proper stop-motion so far, but we'll see. I like the way her hips move as she walks.
Dec. 22, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST
ThomasServo, go to youtube, and hit up some RON PAUL videos. the fed and banking system is a FRAUD perpetrated by the worst criminals of the modern era. RON PAUL will shut down the IRS, shut down the FED, and eliminate INCOME TAX. the US Govt makes so much money, the budget of 2003, if used today, would NOT NEED the income tax of 2007! so with a careful budget, we will not be robbed of thousands of dollars a year! man, i want RON PAUL to WIN because i want extra cash! and RON PAUL will end ALL FOREGIEN wars involving the USA. the armed forces will be sent to our borders, and be used there, to protect our sovereignty. i do not know about you, but i am broke, so i would love to have THOUSANDS of dollars extra per year! DO NOT believe the mainstream media, that tells you 'taxes are good for you.' are they fucking insane??? yeah, here is 7000 bucks, take it, because it is good for me to hand it to some fucking criminals. it is a SCAM. do the research yourself. since mainstream media will not let RON PAUL WIN, then we gotta get the message out thru the net. every year, americans work FOUR MONTHS a year for these criminals. maybe you enjoy working 4 months for some scumbags for FREE??? me, i do not. so, RON PAUL is a great. he will end overseas troops, HE WILL END INCOME TAX, (you do NOT need income tax, why give people YOUR MONEY???) and in 2008, i am going to VOTE FOR RON PAUL.
Dec. 22, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST
A Ron Paul is a sexual position that is nasty, nasty, nasty. It did nor end taxes but it sure gave me the scratches.
Dec. 22, 2007, 3:29 p.m. CST
Maceox, yeah, RON PAUL might be the nickname of some weird sex position. but he is also the man who is going to SAVE AMERICA! google 'NORTH AMERICAN UNION' and google 'ROTHSCHILDS' to see who runs america! RON PAUL will end the bankers rule of america, and bring FREEDOM back to OUR REPUBLIC!!! no, i am not getting paid by anyone, but i will make THOUSANDS of dollars more when RON PAUL WINS in 2008, because i wlll no longer have to pay taxes! So, yup, RON PAUL might be the name of some weird sex position, but he is also the man bringing back the LAW OF THE CONSTITUTION!!! so, in 2008, im going to see the most amazing line up of films to date, and in 2008, i am going to VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!
Dec. 22, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST
by Calico Pete
If you count automatic 'tweening as stop-motion, then sure.
Dec. 22, 2007, 5:52 p.m. CST
by John Maddening
As much as I love They Might Be Giants, I'd like to make sure the mice are still Merritt (The Gothic Archies and The Magnetic Fields).
Dec. 22, 2007, 6:08 p.m. CST
ron paul is this years nader. nothing but detraction from feasible candidates. and the clip looked awesome. havent read the book/graphic novel.
Dec. 22, 2007, 6:26 p.m. CST
Oh yes you could definitely rotoscope animate portions of the Sandman, heck the whole sequences in Hell would be perfect for Rotoscoping.
Dec. 22, 2007, 7:54 p.m. CST
I read lot's of nonsense in the "talkbacks", but none seem to appreciate the hundreds of artists and hours of craftsmanship that go into that short clip.
Dec. 22, 2007, 8:08 p.m. CST
Anyone remember Paul Berry's Sandman short? Now that's the kind of thing that'll you up at night. I thought this was CGI done to look like stop motion? Anyway, I'm looking forward to more. I don't mind that they made Coraline look more generic - if the button-eyed kids are any indication, it's going to be plenty dark and twisted already.
Dec. 22, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST
by Rev. Slappy
That was horrible.
Dec. 22, 2007, 11:21 p.m. CST
anchorite, he is NOT a nazi. man, this guy was in the army!!! also, IRS and the FED were ILLEGALLY created, in 1913. according to the LAW of the US CONSTITUTION, only the US GOVT can issue 'debt free' money! so all RON PAUL has to do, is do what no other president, (except kennedy,) has done. RON PAUL will abolish the IRS, and RON PAUL WILL eliminate INCOME TAX. and RON PAUL delivered over 4000 babies, of EVERY ETHNICITY known to man!!! he is a doctor! do not DO NOT believe the mainstream media's attempt to smear him. mainstream media is controlled by the bankers, and the bankers want your income tax. so they will try and continue to brainwash you into thinking you need income tax. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY INCOME TAX! it is an illegally created tax, thanks to the illegally created FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM. did you know the FEDERAL RESERVE is PRIVATELY OWNED??? you are paying THEM for the priveledge of using their money. DO NOT BE SWINDLED by them anymore anchorite. DO THE RESEARCH, RON PAUL is no way a nazi, as he was in the armed forces on OUR side during wwII. RON PAUL will save america from the biggest fraud of all time, the FED. so, if you like to pay an illegal income tax, then i guess you should vote for any of the other candidates. me, i do not wwant to pay taxes anymore. i want the extra 10,000 dollars PER YEAR!!! so in 2008, i am going to hope we can finally take back our REPUBLIC from the criminal bankers stealing our money. i just hope you do the research, and DO NOT LISTEN TO CNN, NBC, ABC, FOX, any of the mainstream media. remember, they want your money, so they will continue to keep pushing for taxes. me, i want FREEDOM, the CONSTITUTION, and i want MONEY!!! so in 2008, i am going to VOTE FOR RON PAUL.
Dec. 23, 2007, 11:58 a.m. CST
Please guys, if yer gonna go off on choice candidates and alternative political choices, take it over to DailyKos or Democraticunderground.com...but we're here for Coraline.
Dec. 23, 2007, 3:30 p.m. CST
Ron Paul strikes me as being a candidate for the presidency. He strikes me as being a male American and born in the twentieth century. I do believe, as some people here have suggested, that Neil Gaiman would be an appropriate choice for British PM should Ron Paul win and decide to name him such.
Dec. 23, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST
You think getting rid of tax is a good thing? Don't you have any social values? Don't you want to give back to society so that it is a better place? Roads, art, public amenities, hospitals, education? With values like this - the sheer selfishness of what you are saying - you are on your way to becoming a third world country.
Dec. 23, 2007, 11:12 p.m. CST
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ a really interesting film that deals (partly) with the tax situation you are talking about here. theres lots of info in this film, I havnt had a chance to verify all of it, but guys, check it out also Coraline looks beautiful
Dec. 24, 2007, 8:37 a.m. CST
"You American's"... learn how to use an apostrophe, you fucking dipshit. I'm Australian, so I'm all for yank bashing, but if you're going to do so, please do it with a semblance of wit and literacy.
Dec. 24, 2007, 9:20 a.m. CST
Lutz is entirely accurate. My nation is singularly fixated on two strangely interwoven issues: religious causes, and not paying taxes. Its as if the slime that ran churches for aeons has finally entered the political arena in the US. I fully agree that we need taxes. You cannot repair bridges or have good working stuff in a country without proper taxation. They can call me a 'tax and spend' democrat all they desire, but the fact of the matter is, if you don't taxate how do you find the revenue for police? From where do we pay fire fighters? Those jobs are too important and dangerous to let someone do it for free. And in a Ron Paul US that's just what would happen. Also if you truly believe Ron Paul, who is at the end of the day a republican (a batshit crazy one to be sure), will abolish government agencies, you deserve the extra crappy government you will get under him. For myself if we don't vote into power someone who will make a real and decent difference I'm leaving this country. Don't know where I'll go yet, but I guarantee that there will be health insurance for me when I get there.
Dec. 24, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST
And nobody is jumping on THIS? Talk about your textbook overrated borefests, measured points on animation styling alone but even that was destroyed by Elfman's tuneless, hookless, tin-ear 'songs'.
Dec. 24, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST
taxes are truly nothing more than illegal asset seizure. The country thrived for years without a federal Income Tax when it operated closer to it's constitutional mandate. Tarrifs and such could easily finance the few things the government is tasked to do, you handle the roads and bridges and police and fire and everything else at the State level. Even if they doubled State Tax it would only be a fraction of what you currently pay the Fed and all that cash would stay local and wouldn't end up being flown all the way to the Middle East to get stuffed into Cheney's pocket.
Dec. 24, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST
GO AWAY you fucking Ron Paul troll
Dec. 26, 2007, 1:14 a.m. CST
While I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, no one with any semblance of reason or intelligence can endorse the runaway taxation of the US. The money disappears and IS better off controlled at a more local level.
Dec. 26, 2007, 7:05 a.m. CST
...and it's SUCH a great little book! It's like a spookier Alice in Wonderland and the footage above seems pretty close to the source material (although I don't know why the ghosts are under a sheet on a bed). I hope this movie will be less Disney than Nightmare Before Christmas, although I loved that movie (AND Elfman's score and songs, thank you very much).
Dec. 26, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST
Ron Paul doesn't have a chance to win, so why waste time on THIS thread talking about him? Go take up space on a political site. Asshole.
Dec. 28, 2007, 12:36 a.m. CST
by D. Allusion
...before another Ron Paul suicide bomber shows up...I have to agree with the above posts that the look seems absolutely inappropriate and insipid - the RIGHT look already fixed in my mind, at least, by the book's illustrations. Where'd they come up with this weak take?
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