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New CLOVERFIELD TV Spot Offers A Larger Look At The Film

Hey folks, Harry here... This TV spot gives us a totally different LOOK at CLOVERFIELD - prior to this - pretty much everything we had seen had been shaky-cam, but here there's some elegant handheld stuff that also gives a fairly massive sense of scope. Like the bridge collapse - and the fighters through the city.. The more I see - the more I like... and don't we all hate Neil Cumpston. Bastard having seen this already!





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  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST

    It's A Lion!

    by jimmy rabbitte

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:38 p.m. CST

    First?

    by ldm882

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Damnit

    by ldm882

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    fourth

    by tme2nsb

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    oh

    by tme2nsb

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Oh well

    by ldm882

    at least that shot of...whatever...walking behind the building is a little more clear

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    by tme2nsb

    still looks like shit

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Huh?

    by bparsonst

    What is "totally different" about this spot? Every shot is in shakycam...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    It's the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man...

    by LordPorkington

    He's back, and this time, he wants blood!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Anyone know the significance of the name yet?

    by Somerichs

    Did Mr. Cumpston, or anyone else, for that matter, give any idea as to what the title refers to?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    oh my gawd oh my gawd

    by semisaj

    does anyone know what the music is from that trailer?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Fuck this movie

    by Jack D. Ripper

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:46 p.m. CST

    As long as it's better than...

    by khashooggi

    ...that Americanized Godzilla crap, I'll be a happy camper.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I still have no idea

    by mukhtabi

    What that monster is, but lemme tell you I'm gonna put down my hard earned for this anyway. Yes Oh Great Red Haired one Neill is definitely EVIL for seeing this before anyone else.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Somerichs

    by Boba Fat

    Here's my guess. It's army code for carpet bombing New York and the camera is some sort of evidence left behind after the characters are killed...wait for it...not by the monster but their own army! Oh the humanity!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    PG-13?

    by rbrog77

    ...and the head biting is scarier/better than anything we've seen?<P> hmmmmmmmmmmm....

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    $100,000 says it's a giant hamster

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! IT'S A GIANT F**KING HAMSTER!

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Proof: http://www.asciipr0n.com/4096/ hampster/

    by heyscot

    remove space

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:51 p.m. CST

    PJ NOT DIRECTING HOBBIT!

    by THE KNIGHT

    I'm pretty sad :(

  • *SPOILERS* JJ I've been with you since Alias and I've followed everything you've done. I got a lot of respect for you and Damien. All I can say is, you have huge balls for making a serious movie about a giant hamster, and you have my undying respect and support. Also, could you post and let me know if you ever read televisionwithoutpity.com?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    URL got cut off: http://blogging.la/archives/hamster.jpg

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    How does Neil do it?

    by Wugmanmax

    I mean, with his minimum-wage mall job, how does he get to see all these awesome movies before anyone else? It's like perhaps maybe he's not who he says he is! Crazy theory I know, but I think Neil just might be an alias for some big-shot Hollywood actor or something. Maybe he's really David Schwimmer!

  • Not to mention I WILL be there on opening night.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Anchorite is right about Batman Begins...

    by hypnotron

    and this movie looks far more creative and original! Looking forward to watching this...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Hope you fucking haters die horribly

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    This will rock and you fags will miss out on it.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3 p.m. CST

    Statue of Liberty's Head =

    by Fatty Magee

    flames on optimus, if that makes any sense at all. you know what i mean.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:01 p.m. CST

    I SUPPORT THE HUGE LION ON THIS ONE

    by Pound Sand

    as a matter of fact, it's never been more clear to me. Sigh. It's time to give up on Cthulhu. It's over. But MNG, we had times, didn't we?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Not a whale... a shark!!!

    by turketron

    The Dharma Shark cometh!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Don't Like This Trailer

    by christian66

    Less realistic vibe in favor of WB teens...fighting the monster?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST

    the song playing

    by dpbcold

    anyone know the name of the song thats playing in the background? thanks

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST

    about New York city

    by tough_times

    I know that's the most logical place to do a monster/disaster/zombie/etc movie, because there's tons of buildings to destroy and millions of people to kill, but how about somewhere else for a change?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Why can't

    by Fatty Magee

    they make a monster movie where the main characters are not at ground zero. Explore what happens as they watch everything unfold in NYC on TV. Kind of like "Signs," but w/o the aliens attacking the main characters. Tell the story of all the craziness that would go on as this thing unfolds somewhere else. bleh.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:10 p.m. CST

    TV Spot music...

    by BrundleFlyboy

    ... it's from the score for Sunshine, still not available though for some reason; shame 'cos I love it!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Somerichs

    by addyadam

    *spoilers* cloverfeild is the name of the incident by the government. I also think it has to do with the ocean floor. The Slusho site gives huge hints to something being at the bottem of the ocean. and a station off the cost of north america near NY, and also how that site is getting no oil like the other sites. There is so much virtral marketing for this just check some of it out.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Great spot!

    by Mezzanine

    I watched it three times, and I think it's fantastic. I will be there opening night.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    I think they said...

    by Kid Z

    ..."I saw it, it's alive!" not "I saw it, it's a lion!"

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    OK, this time it really does sound like "It's a lion".

    by rev_skarekroe

    Voltron vs. America!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Fucking great music too

    by Mezzanine

    Now that I think about it, the music is by far the best part of that commercial.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Anchorite...

    by Kid Z

    ...is that dude still around on his endless, and endlessly boring, anti-Chris Nolan/Batman Begins jihad? As much as I hate meatheaded jocks, maybe there should be more of them around to cull out the nerd over-population around here just a bit...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    shakey cam. Who shakes a cam this much?

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Documentary film makers and even the average joe at home try and make their cameras shake as less as possible. So why is this dude shaking it like he has parkinson's disease?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Nothing New

    by Saluki

    This spot has nothing new other than the odd pan right from the jet shot. And please, PLEASE keep Anchorcunt out of talkbacks.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST

    It's a 900-foot tall...

    by Kid Z

    ...Mike Huckabee!!! Complete with floating white cross that he can control with Christian Telekinesis!!! Quick! Someone call Robert Smith to take him out! Only Robert Smith can save us now!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST

    "if you wanna stop me, you're just gonna have to shoot me..."

    by Lt. Kaffee

    oh, no. that line is really in the movie.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:25 p.m. CST

    he's not saying its a fucking lion. jesus christ!

    by BMacSmith

    how stupid would that be?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Does Cloverfield Monster Goes Apeshit?

    by Han Cholo

    What? I didn't understand that headline.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST

    GIANT HAMSTER!("insert" Riichard Gere joke here)

    by Stuntcock Mike

    .

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Found the picture of it.. It's furby..

    by wowsucks

    http://www.themeparkreview.com/ forum/viewtopic.php?t=40559

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    . . .maybe not. I mean hamsters aren't generally violent.

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Ok, i was looking at the 6 to 7 sec mark, and i saw somthing int

    by mattforce7

    well, this whole its a lion thing, is making alot more sense because iwas looking in the middle body mass of the creature when they do show it and int he 3rd to last frame it is on screen it seems like i can see the outline of a lion face, with bright glowing eyes, like the creature isnt moving away and behind the building with its back facing us, but more so swinging his body towads us. People take a look. I also see the outline of a face too, very cat like. Tell me what you think

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    It Voltron!!!!

    by Nuck81

    Japan attacks New York, which is on the opposite side of the Continent for them, with a giant robot lion. The US retaliates by nuking the shit out of tokyo....

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Its a!

    by mattforce7

    Its a live'n its huge, or its a lion its huge. But i swear i see a lions head or something

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:46 p.m. CST

    I saw it! It's Alive! It's Huge!

    by darquelyte

    At about the 6 minute mark, the guy CLEARLY says, it's alive. It's Alive? Giant statue come to life? I mean, if it was a monster, why would you say "it's Alive?" It looks to be standing upright, or just so big it looks like it's standing upright. If you freeze at 7 seconds, you can see it from the side pretty well. At around 12 seconds, you can see the creature's eye reflected in the helicopter's window as it's taking off.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Ron Paul to defeat giant monster in '08!

    by The Dum Guy

    Anyone else notice the black military dude didn't have his face pixilated out in this clip, I wonder what it means?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Not A Lion dumbasses

    by Jackass08

    "I saw it in the light and it's huge!" with New York accent "I saw it n da light an it's huge"

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST

    This will have huge numbers in the theatres...

    by Bobo_Vision

    ...because of the enormoous hype and curiosity surrounding the movie, and the movie might actually be good too. But, in terms of the long term, like ten years from now, this will be one of those DVDs gathering dust at Blockbuster that people rarely rent, and are sick of hearing about. <p> Why? The title. That gay-ass title. Hype + gay title = Future dust-collecting DVD at Blockbuster.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Why the FUCK would it be a lion?

    by Han Cholo

    How the fuck did you come up with that conclusion? It's a giant, crab-like creature, I believe someone said it's more like a whale lice or something.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:55 p.m. CST

    "Rob. I saw it. It's Godzooki."

    by 3 Bag Enema

    Still funny.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Man in rubber suit, or Lochness Monster?

    by wowsucks

    You pick. I still say it's furby. Either way it's def. a Ny'er. It kept dropping f-bombs at the bar last night.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    omg, omg

    by LegoKenobi

    that OH MY GOD guy has *got* to be removed from the audio. please? it's effing terrible.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    It's a giant asshole typing in caps

    by quantize

    !

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Friggin NORRIS

    by mwrisner

    Cloverfield ain't Chuck Norris!! If it were Chuck Norris, he would have wiped his ass with the Statue of Liberty's head before he hurled it into the city.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST

    anyone else concur?

    by mattforce7

    Well anyone else see what im seeing with this head thing?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    OH MY GAWD OH MY GAWD

    by Pipple

    OH MY GAWD

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    And I'll form....THE HEAD!!!!

    by smackfu

    If Abrams has any sense of humor, the dvd release will feature a deleted scene where Voltron shows up in the final 2 minutes of the film and chops the monster in half.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:17 p.m. CST

    The Cloverfield Monster is a Ro-Beast....

    by Han Cholo

    Formed by the Witch Haggar, by the orders of King Zarkkon who saw Earth as a potential slave-labor planet. The Ro-Beast unleashes utter havok for 90-95% of the film until The Defender of the Universe shows up just in time to form the ubiquitous Blazing Sword and in one fell swoop, dispatches the Ro-Beast thus freeing the people of Earth from the would-be domination of Zarkkon and Lotor. <p> $200 million opening weekend, people.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:19 p.m. CST

    The Green Ranger would beat the fuck out of....

    by Han Cholo

    The other Power Rangers, by the way. Who wouldn't want a magic flute that beckons to Mecha-Godzilla? That, plus the Pink Ranger wants some Green Ranger phallus.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:27 p.m. CST

    JAMIE LYNN SPEARS IS PREGNANT!!!!1

    by BringingSexyBack

    White trash goes Hollywood

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:30 p.m. CST

    I Wasn't Talking About This

    by kevinwillis.net

    Well, I wasn't.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:33 p.m. CST

    IT'S CHOCOLATE COVERED PUSSY JUICE!!

    by dudemandude

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Jamie Lynn Spears Is Pregnant

    by kevinwillis.net

    Well, it wasn't me. Not that she wasn't on me like a hot rash, but she's just not my type.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST

    More new G.I. Joe casting news...

    by alienindisguise

    over at hisstank.com and yes the Spears sisters are white trash cum dumpsters that will have there own porno out in a year or 2

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST

    DudeManDude

    by kevinwillis.net

    Most of the things Harry says should be killed dead and buried, not constantly resurected. It's unnatural!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    IT'S NIC CAGE LOOKING FOR HAIR!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    He should be attacking Bay Ridge, not Manhattan.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    IT'S A RADIOACTIVE CHINESE MADE TOY!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Don't lick any toys this Christmas!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST

    It's a lion with crabs!

    by I Hope You Die

    When it rubs its groin against buildings the crabs fall off. They're after your pubes! CLOVERFIELD is an ointment.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Looks like fun to me.

    by SkeletonParty

    I'm so looking forward to this movie. I like the bridge falling shot. Very cool.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Let me get this straight: J.J. Abrams code-names

    by CreasyBear

    this project "Cloverfield", which is simply the name of a street or studio building around his offices ("Blue Harvest"-ish), then the Internets buzz about the idea of the movie actually being called Cloverfield and how cool and esoteric that would be, so Abrams switches the intended name of the movie from some typical monster-movie type title, to Cloverfield based on the buzz. Got it.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Elegant?

    by Sad_Lieutenant

    Elegant? Massive sense of scope? You make this dude sound like David Lean, when it's really just more of the same.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Fat Monster with 2 chins = Don Murphy

    by zodiac1012

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:50 p.m. CST

    i saw it... its alive... its huge...

    by seekshelter

    has anyone else noticed that the trailers that have been released are really playing up this line?? haha...stupid talkbackers... everyone knows that there are no such things as lions...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    IT'S JOEL SCHUMACHER LOOKING FOR CRISTIAN BALE!!!

    by JeremiahTheProphet

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I don't care if it's a lion, voltron, giant hamster, or a dildo

    by samsquanch

    Just as long as I get long, intimate shots of it ripping those teeny wankers, their flared collars and spiked hair apart in front of a camera. I don't even care if it is shakey cam, as long as I get to see the fear and pain on their faces.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    YOU SEE LESS!

    by FILMFUNK

    i'm gonna try and stay spoiler free of this from now on coz it does look real nicely shot and V 'Citin!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Talkback spam

    by ebonic_plague

    What's with all this idiotic multi-posting of incredibly bad jokes? The spam folder in my email has funnier entries in it than these subject line only knee-slappers. Creepy Thin Man, I'm talking to you.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST

    MAYBE

    by samsquanch

    it's a giant peanut. Peanuts ARE the dealiest substance known to man right now, according to mainstream news.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 4:57 p.m. CST

    IT'S EBONIC PLAGUE'S PISSY ATTITUDE!!!

    by JeremiahTheProphet

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5 p.m. CST

    I can't believe it.

    by godhatesyou

    Not that fucking Staute of Liberty part again........

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    OH THE HUMANITY!!!

    by Pipple

    NOT JAMIE LYNNE! ANYONE BUT JAMIE LYNNE!!! OHHHH MY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:04 p.m. CST

    HERE'S THE GOOD NEWS...

    by partnerrumble@gmail.com

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B03dqxxx1Q0

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:06 p.m. CST

    12 second mark - Eye reflection in window

    by Scorecard

    ...Yeah, I have to admit, I think I see that too... And have to agree, "I saw it in the light and it's huge" makes far more sense than "it's a lion" - But the eye reflection (unfortunately) looks more like that giant whale mutant sketch thing that's floating around that everyone says is fan-boy art...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Kurzinski...Sunshine?

    by Scorecard

    Sunshine was a mess no matter what drugs you happened to take beforehand...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Sunshine was pretty fuckin' sweet.

    by rbatty024

    A little uneven, but still one of the best sci-fi and horror films I've seen in a long time.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Ray...

    by BigTexas42

    when someone asks you if you are a huge whale/lion/crab/voltron/monster-thing, you say YES!!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:26 p.m. CST

    MANBEARPIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by canvasseamonkey

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:28 p.m. CST

    The Title

    by HExTeXly

    People in this day and age are so fuckin' stupid that they have to have everything spelled out for them. "Cloverfield" as a title isn't as easy to comprehend as say, "Shoot 'em Up" (whose title pretty much gave away the entire movie). I predict that the: lack of big-name actors, crappy hand-cam quality, and confusing name will keep people away from this. That said, as a fanboy/genre hound, I'll be there (with bells on) opening night. PS. "Nib-High Football rules!"

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Actually, I thought Sunshine was great... even scary at times...

    by Scorecard

    ...until the last 1/2 hour of the film destroyed everything.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Something I don't get

    by Zarathos666

    You've got a video camera. A big ass... thing... is destroying NYC, and you point the camera at soldiers?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:30 p.m. CST

    $1,000,000,000 Bounty

    by HExTeXly

    FOR ANYONE WHO CAN POST A PIC OF THE CLOVERFIELD MONSTER BY 1-17-08

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Um, this looks just like this movie I saw in 1998...

    by Banshee7

    it was called GODZILLA!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:34 p.m. CST

    There are people who like to hammer nails...

    by I Hope You Die

    ...into their scrotum. Obviously there are going to be people who liked Sunshine.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    GODZILLAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by DURANGO66

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Sunshine was good, and scary

    by HExTeXly

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Sunshine causes cancer...

    by The Dum Guy

    You know this to be true.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:50 p.m. CST

    "Sunshine" is just...

    by I Hope You Die

    ...Event Horizon in Space.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:50 p.m. CST

    DAMN YOU NEILL CUMPSTON DENIS

    by Pennsy

    For seeing 2008's first blockbuster before the rest of us. ;)

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 5:55 p.m. CST

    The Sad Truth of CLOVERFIELD

    by HExTeXly

    http://thoughtsofalimemonkey.blogspot.com/2007/12/about-to-see-free-advanced-screening-of.html

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Fuck you MCMLXXVI

    by zodiac1012

    Fuck you MCMLXXVI

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:15 p.m. CST

    MEH MEH MEH MEH MEH MEH MEH MEH

    by MatDGZ

    Just show us something worth seeing. We get that this shit is secret. Now its just annoying - the hype has gone.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:16 p.m. CST

    The characters seem like as*holes

    by S.Lowrey

    I'm sorry...I might be a little cold hearted here but the characters seem like a bunch of self absorbed idiots who probably deserve whatever horrible fate awaits them. I hate the overly dramatic tone of the guy who is like, "I;m going!" or something stupid like that. I hated when they did that in Lost. Every 5 minutes they would ground the show to halt so that Jack could spazz out in front of the camera in some pseudo-emotional tantrum thats supposed to humanize the proceedings. I say Bulls*it to that, its tiring (especially after the 5th time in one episode.) Are we the viewers supposed to respect the fact that people think they have the right to act like children during tense situations? I'm sick of that tired grandstanding dramatic tension breakdown moment they seem to go to (with less and less effect.) I say no to this movie.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:22 p.m. CST

    OK, no, it could be a giant hamster:

    by heyscot

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamster

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:24 p.m. CST

    S.Lowrey: The fact is most people are self absorbed idiots....

    by The Dum Guy

    So, it only makes sense to portray characters like wise.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:28 p.m. CST

    NO HERO?

    by MRX67

    w

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by jfp2007

    He's shaking the camera so much because of a giant fucking monster, it's babies, and lots of shit falling around him and other stuff, Dickhead.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:30 p.m. CST

    S.Lowrey

    by jfp2007

    Everyone of these people are exactly like most of those I know out in the real world, so I don't see the problem with them. It's all totally real to me, Dickhead.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:31 p.m. CST

    WHERE IS THE HERO IN THIS MOVIE?

    by MRX67

    J,J must've lost his freakin mind. The only ones who will see this movie are the idiots like the one who wrote the review. Mainstream America and people by nature want good to overcome evil. It is the essence of every good fiction.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:40 p.m. CST

    This movie doesn't have to pander to everyone...

    by The Dum Guy

    If it is made a cheap as they say, then anyone complaining about yuppies/heros/sandwiches aren't the demographic they are aiming for, and everyone else that sees it will (in all likelyhood) help it turn a profit.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:44 p.m. CST

    This talk back...

    by I Hope You Die

    ...is the literary equivalent of shaky cam footage. It's making me nauseated.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I still fucking HATE the name

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    Cloverfield? If this is supposed to be our "Godzilla" kind of monster movie; the first real American monster movie, and that's the name? I know it's supposed to be military code, but Godzilla sounds so much cooler, more intimidating. And frightening!! *points to the sky* Look! GODZILLA!!! OMG!! *runs away* *points to the sky* Look! Cloverfield!! Huh? WTF? Just not scary JJ.

  • as well as have pouches that it can store things in.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Rob COULD HAVE MADE THIS MOVIE...

    by MRX67

    But even he had the sense to put a hero in his movies. (Even if the hero turned out to be evil himself in the sequel).

  • but I still don't know why it would be making gigantic explosions as well as knock the head off of the Statue of Liberty.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:56 p.m. CST

    A kid might name a hamster Cloverfield

    by heyscot

    a precocious youth, to be sure, perhaps one out of a Wes Anderson movie, but it could happen

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    "Mom, Cloverfield is getting bigger."

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    SO IN ESSENCE...

    by MRX67

    This is about a monster who comes from out of nowhere and starts eating people then slips back into the harbor. The army can't stop it and I can understand with only one tank firing at the damn thing with a bunch of army guys shooting up at it with their M16 pea shooters. Oh man! I gotta see this!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    LION of the TRIBE OF JUDAH

    by mildewproduction

    It's the second coming of Christ, this time as a massive Lion. He has come to clean the streets of the most Satanic spot on Earth WALLSTREET (The love of money is the root of all Evil).

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    "That's nice, dear."

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:58 p.m. CST

    "Mom, Cloverfield is getting angry."

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:59 p.m. CST

    "Do your homework, Richie."

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 6:59 p.m. CST

    harbor!"

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7 p.m. CST

    SEE B USH...

    by MRX67

    your damn war in Iraq has costed us N.Y CITY! The army couldn't afford to send more tanks why? cause they are all in Iraq! Damn you Bush!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:02 p.m. CST

    If the military can beat the Mist, then one monster is nothing..

    by The Dum Guy

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:07 p.m. CST

    This guy's a pretty good camcorder operator.

    by Christopher3

    It's almost like he's a professional cinematographer, or something.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:18 p.m. CST

    I guarentee you that Cloverfield is

    by comedian_x

    the name of a company that dumps chemicals into the water (like Korea's The Host) and mutates this man-whale-pig.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Isn't Cloverfield just...

    by HyphenatedWords

    Isn't Cloverfield just a field full of clover? I think you're over-thinking this, people. I'm really looking forward to the serene shots of gently swaying clover. Ahh. <p> Are there ABBA songs in this movie, too?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:32 p.m. CST

    MRX67 are you ok with this movie, right?!!!!

    by ludmir88

    hehehhe

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST

    In case you haven't thought about

    by Buck_Turgidson

    "Godzilla" is a pretty lame movie title as well. It just resonates because the G-Man himself was such a badass. If the monster in this is hard core enough, you could call the film "High School Musical 3" and people would still look upon it fondly.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Godzilla for Japanese-speaking People

    by HyphenatedWords

    On a different note, have you ever wondered why the English version of Gojira is Godzilla? Who came up with that?<p>It's funny, because "Gojira!" sounds like a Japanese native speaker <i>trying</i> to say, "Godzilla!"<p> JOE: Oh my god! It's Godzilla!<p> IZUMI: Whear? Oh! Oh no! It IS Gorzheerah!<p> JOE: That's "GodZILLA," Izumi.<p> IZUMI: That what I say! GorZHEEERAH!<p> JOE: Zilla! Z I L L A. ZILLA!<p> IZUMI: Yah! ZHEERAH!<p> JOE: Sigh.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:37 p.m. CST

    OMG it's Harry playing hide and seek in NYC!!!!

    by ludmir88

    Nooooooooooo!!! Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Are we to honestly believe...

    by MRX67

    That the mightiest military machine in the world couldn't stop this thing? That is what J.J wants you to believe. He wanted this movie to be based on realism yet we see one tank and some army guys shooting at this thing. The Air Force sends two fighters? Ohhh yea, I'm convinced.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Nice use of Michael Mann music...

    by Kirbymanly

    I hope that monster fucks up every print of "Miami Vice"

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:56 p.m. CST

    It is the 12th Imam

    by TheBloop

    In Giant Sized Islamic Furry! Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been dropping little wish notes in that well in Tehran for years, and his wish came true! Death to the infidels! Down with Beauty!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Is this out on DVD already? awesome!

    by screamster101

    sigh... I gave up on this crap along time ago... yawn.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8 p.m. CST

    I'm trying to keep myself pure.

    by greenstyle92

    The only thing I've seen from this was that teaser with Transformers. I have not seen anything else. It will help me not see the movie.<br> <br> I mean c'mon, we can't let ourselves be tricked by everything that comes down the pipeline.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8 p.m. CST

    That red head with the Bustedtees ad has the nicest...

    by screamster101

    chest I have ever drooled over. Can I have her phone number? I gotta get me some of that sweet nectar!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:03 p.m. CST

    this monster is no match...

    by BadMrWonka

    for MRX67's idiocy...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:09 p.m. CST

    No spoilers? Anyone? Spies?

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    This movie comes out in just a few weeks and we STILL don't know what it is? I mean we have the basic idea- monster movie- but no one has leaked a real picture of the monster? The plot? What the name really means? How it ends? NOTHING? Hell, a year before Revenge of the Sith came out everything was leaked. This is some low-budget movie that supposedly people have seen and we still have no picture or description of the monster? Anyone else find that odd? Maybe AICN knows, but can't put it out there for fear of alienating JJ and the movie companies.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:22 p.m. CST

    skywalkerfamily: maybe but...

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    skywalkerfamily: Sure, that may be true that there is no plot (in fact its very likely!) but that is still a guess. Know what I mean? Even if there is no real, deep plot we still have not heard that as a fact from someone who has seen it or read the script. There were sketches of stuff from the new star wars movies that hit the web over a YEAR before the movie came out. But with this little movie- nothing. I find it odd, is all.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:24 p.m. CST

    GODDAMIT!!!

    by AD_Skinner

    Is it a fricking Whalecrab or isn't it? What is the fucking monster already!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:24 p.m. CST

    The US army can't stop it?

    by I Hope You Die

    Maybe it's a bunch of barefooted Muslim kids with rudimentary weaponry!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:25 p.m. CST

    bad....

    by MRX67

    don't get mad...get mad trash bags for the posts you write. Another womanless soul drifting his way to the entrance of another sick and lonely movie night.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:28 p.m. CST

    sakywalker....

    by MRX67

    I summed that up some posts up. It's a sick ass movie for sick ass people. J.J wants the womanless geeks to go to his movie and judging from this talkboard God knows there are a lot of you.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Needless to say...

    by MRX67

    Hope has come in the form of another hobbit trilogy. I will wait for Iron Man and bypass this sick flick for the needy. I wouldn't even see this movie for free. Thank you Neil for giving us the run down on this and J.J....forget about the tickets man. I'll take a raincheck on your Star Trek movie dude.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:36 p.m. CST

    The monster is a whale?

    by veebeeyes

    That's stupid. Whales can't walk.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:39 p.m. CST

    I hate people

    by thebluerosekiller

    I mean, I REALLY hate people. I can't believe that we have yet ANOTHER couple hundred posts of mostly clueless, whining, illiterate individuals complaining about a film that they haven't seen yet. Spouting the same exact nonsense about lions, their confusion over the film's title & their aversion to hand held camera work that they voiced pissed & moaned about when the first saw the initial teaser this past summer. Rather than taking the time to actually read something about the film or scanning through the talkback before posting, so as to be able to make INFORMED, intelligent comments, they choose to put their ignorance on display by repeating the same shit we were forced to endure six months ago. It's pathetic.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:44 p.m. CST

    thebluerose....ahem, another needy soul ....

    by MRX67

    to gobble up. That's who the monster need to gobble up. Everytime he eats someone he needs to look into the handicam and give a big monster smile for all those sitting in the theatre as if to say, 'you really came to see me eat people.....wow aren't you special.'

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:52 p.m. CST

    thebluerosekiller

    by FeedMeAStrayCat

    Well said.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:55 p.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by Anton_Chigurth

    Don't you know that MRX67 has written a book that is going to be in stores this spring. He is even going to post another excerpt from that book on his MySpace page in a few days. Do you really think that you or J.J. Abrams could possibly know more about writing fiction than him? I mean, how could a monster possibly fight idiocy? Nonsense! That would be like fighting a war against intense, overpowering fear! Perhaps, if you tried not to be so bad, he would also grace this talkback with another excerpt from his book. What do you say?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Giant. Fucking. Lion.

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Get over it bitches.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 8:59 p.m. CST

    It's Kanye West's ego!!!! Cloverfield is the code name

    by Yeti

    For the "incident" by the gov't and the area previously known as Central Park. (I'm just glad it's not all shaky camera cause I'd get really bad motion sickness - not pretty)

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Leave MRX67 alone, leave him alone! He's a person...

    by The Dum Guy

    Who most likely is (according to what he's written) middle age, married w/children and unable to find pleasure in what most testosterone driven males can.<br><br>Between his dislike for this "giant-monster" movie and his belief Batman should be targeted to thirteen year olds and younger, I firmly believe that his wife just had his balls cut years ago, so try and see things from his P.O.V.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:04 p.m. CST

    GO VOLTRON FORCE!

    by Squashua

    YES! VOLTRON MOVIE!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:05 p.m. CST

    MRX67

    by Mezzanine

    Why does this movie offend you so much? For someone bitching about geeks and idiots and fanboys, why the fuck have you posted in this talkback so many times? I take it from as cool as you are making yourself sound that you have something better to be doing, so why the fuck aren't you doing it??

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:06 p.m. CST

    dum guy.....

    by MRX67

    Enough said.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:10 p.m. CST

    It's Man-Whale-Crab!!

    by quadrupletree

    I'm off. Whooooshhhhh!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Mezz.....

    by MRX67

    My dissapointment in this movie that has captivated all of us these past few months is just that. I was lead to believe there was some hope of a good monster movie. God knows we haven't seen one in a long time. J.J has created a piece of garbage he wants to sell as a movie based on realism. There is nothing real about a monster coming out of the water, eating some people, destroying the city, and then going back from whence it came. That is the movie in a nutshell. No plot, no protaganist, just a typical b-movie like rob's movies.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:14 p.m. CST

    What an idiot

    by Mezzanine

    You and anchorite should go jack each other off on a pile of Jack Kirby X-Men and used DVDs of Blade Runner.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Correction....

    by MRX67

    Rob did have a hero.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Aren't....

    by MRX67

    you special.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:19 p.m. CST

    So essentially...

    by Mezzanine

    You want an awesome monster movie, and then you get disillusioned when you get exactly what you ask for just with a slightly new take? Personally, I'll take innovation and trying new things (even if they're not as good as the classics) because eventually that "new thing" that everyone bitches about on the talk backs will be the next classic. It's a circular logic. True; monster movies have nothing to do with realism. But take 9/11 for an example. People would have called that fiction five years beforehand and everyone in NYC was running around with a video camera that day. Not that I am saying that in five years a monster is going to come out of the harbor, but if it did, this would probably be similar to how it would play out.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Lion Facts

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    1) Lions are mammals. 2) The guy says "it's a lion, it's huge". 3) The other guy (maybe the same guy) says "Robbie Robbie Robbie... it's a lion". 4) The glass in the convenience store shatters just like a lion hit it. 5) A lion that can destroy a city is perfectly capable of swimming the ocean 5) The roaring sound heard in the trailer is that of a lion, amplified, thus leading to the conclusion that aforementioned lion is, in point of fact, huge. I rest my case.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Two 5)'s, because 6) is a dumb number.

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    And edit functions are for pussies.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:24 p.m. CST

    wow cholera.

    by Zozma

    1.youre a fucking idiot 2.youre an inept fucking idiot 3.youre a homosexual liberal 4.your mother should have swallowed you

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Zozma...

    by Mezzanine

    I might agree with your critical asseament of Chloera's astoundingly ridiculous reasoning, but you're still an ass.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Chloera

    by Mezzanine

    Explain to me how you know how the glass of a convience store would shatter if a lion hit it? That is probably the dumbest comment I have ever seen in my life. And if you have actually seen a lion attack the front of a gas station, how do you know what a GIANT lion would do? Fuck, graduating high school should be required for people to get on the internet.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:31 p.m. CST

    In defence...

    by MRX67

    of J.J, I am going by what some lunatic wrote in his review. Apparently there was some attempt at establishing a protaganist but a good story is based on the protaganist either succeeding or failing at his/her goal. The goal for J.J'S skimpy protaganist is to escape the city. Given the nature of the movie, we need a success here. We're already told that won't happen. So now we know the protaganist won't succeed in his goal and the monster will prevail. We know the ending so why go see the damn thing. J.J has left us with no hope. If he had marketed this leaving the fate of those who the movie is focused on in the air then I would say yes, this is a film worth going to see because we don't know the ending. But we do know the ending and if anyone sees this movie they are going because they want to see a giant monster kill people and destroy a city. Do you get my meaning?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:35 p.m. CST

    IT'S A 500' KRISTEN BELL!

    by Pennsy

    OK, it's not, but I can dream, right?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:35 p.m. CST

    lol

    by radjac33

    "your mother should have swallowed you"...thats funny

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:37 p.m. CST

    GEORGE BUSH OVERHEARD IN PLANE LOOKING DOWN ON MANWHALEPIG ATTAC

    by BringingSexyBack

    "It’s totally wiped out. ... It’s devastating, it’s got to be doubly devastating on the ground." <p> George W. Bush, the wisest man of our time.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:38 p.m. CST

    IT'S PARIS HILTON'S VAGINA!!!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    It wants to fuck buildings!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:41 p.m. CST

    IT'S A GIANT CONCH!!!!!! CONCH!!!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    The only way to destroy it is to eat it.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:46 p.m. CST

    In defence of Cholera

    by The Dum Guy

    <br><br>It is scientific fact that a lion will always attack plate glass when confronted with it, esp. plate glass used in convience stores. It is hard wired into the lion's instinct, like hummingbirds natural hatred of moths.<br><br>

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:46 p.m. CST

    CHOLERA'S GHOST, IT'S A GIANT SEA LION

    by BringingSexyBack

    That would make the most sense.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST

    IN CHOLERA'S DEFENSE ...

    by BringingSexyBack

    He's just playing you guys and you're falling for it. Damn, step back and look at yourselves, people.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    ANCHORITE'S A FUCKING LOSER WHO LIVES WITH HIS MAMA

    by BringingSexyBack

    Just an FYI

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Err. Yeti....

    by Scorecard

    Nope... Cloverfield is no reference to Central Park... "U.S 447" is the "area formally known as Central Park"... Perhaps implying that after this attack, Central Park is no more... Or that during the attack, the Defence Forces split the city into zones (as well they would) to allow for easier crowd control during the emergency procedure... The trailer begins with this information... including: "Multiple Sightings of Case Designate "Cloverfield" - Case Designate would refer to evidence given to a particular event that has taken place... in this case... Cloverfield.... Yup.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Triad of Doom

    by TheCornTorilla

    Three faces of Doom. The monster, the parasites, and the transformation of certain people. Not to be compared with the red vines from War of the Worlds, but people will. Are you eating the stuff or is it eating you?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST

    IT'S RICHARD SIMMONS ON CRACK!!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    and he wants some cock NOW!!!!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10 p.m. CST

    This i s an interesting picture...

    by cornponious

    http://tinyurl.com/2nt5tl <p> Could this be it? I'm just wondering...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Nope

    by TheCornTorilla

    But on the 24th of December there might be a foot print or a shot of a foot some place. If you can all it a foot.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    HExTeXly, Kurzinski Valentine about the title.

    by F-1000

    Some of us are too busy reading Steinbeck to read another meandering circular interview on AICN. Especially when the director doesn't do anything but be as vague as possible in an effort to hype his movie more. <p> Fan fags like you two are the lowest common denominator. You're not hifalutin because you avidly follow a viral marketing campaign, fucking morons. Discover literature. <p> Mark my words, this is going to fucking BOMB. Only the most pathetic of fan bois are hyped about this movie. Because the movie is CLEARLY all hype and no substance. Another strike against it: IF it sucks it won't spread by word of mouth, which will be the nail in Cloverfield's coffin.<p> The Blair Witch project succeeded because it was a novel "first of its kind" thing and well hyped, so it didn't matter that it pretty much sucked. <p>The Blair Witch hype machine was much more potent than this movie. With Cloverfield they've been so vague the entire time they've been virally building the mythology of this movie a lot of people don't even give a shit about the mythology, let alone the movie itself. At least in the Blair Witch you had a rough idea about the movie, as the fucking villain is the namesake of the title. <p> Additionally, the Blair Witch sites were actually framed around GOOD STORYTELLING (compared to Cloverfield viral sites) where they build their mythology through exposition and fake journalism rather than staged LAME ass and unrealistic blogs and plugs for fake fucking Slurpee drinks. Yeah, that was done BACK IN THE FUCKING LATE EIGHTIES with the SQUISHIE. Let's use a fake drink related to all of JJ Abram's other projects to hype this movie too! Let's make this the Blair Witch of monster movies! <p> See how uninspired and derivative these fucks are? No wait, you probably don't.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:09 p.m. CST

    I just saw a different TV spot that was better than this one...

    by red ezra

    it had a longer shot of the monster and a different ending saying the chick that blimps up was bitten

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Godzirra??? No! It's Godzoooooookie!!

    by HarrysNemesis

    "It's Alive! It's Jamie Lynn Spears' Vagina!!!"

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Or what about 'Leave Rob Alone! Leave him alone!"

    by Pennsy

    One more thing that makes you go hmmmm.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius... CTHULHU DANCE PLEASE.

    by That 70s Venom

    PLEEEEEEEEEAAAASE give us the Cthulhu Dance, MNG. :)

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Cholera could be right because...

    by That 70s Venom

    ... I mean, the real question we need to be asking ourselves is... why WOULDN'T a giant lion attack New York?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:36 p.m. CST

    DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW.....

    by wackybantha

    ..whether the drawing, labeled CLOVERFIELD MONSTER, of a whalecrab-like creature, that some people gave been sharing links to, has been proven fake or not? The drawing looks like genuine production art but what the hell do I know?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Just read about whale lice on wikipedia.

    by veebeeyes

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale_louse. Interesting stuff. Apparently they arent't really lice, since lice are insects and insects don't live in te sea. Apparently they are crustaceans, which means they're more like crabs. So I find it sort of amusing that we call pubic lice "crabs" even though they are actually lice, and we call whale lice "lice" even though they are actually more like crabs. So humans and whales have something in common, in that we both have parasites with common names that are pretty much completely inaccurate. Maybe we should actually start calling pubic lice "lice" instead of crabs. And then we could start referring to "whale lice" as "whale crabs". You know, we could just swap names. That'd be at least a little bit more accurate, plus it would mean that you don't have to start thinking about pubes whenever you go to a restaurant and order crab. Anyway, I highly recommend that everyone learns more about whale lice, because they are a fascinating animal!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:46 p.m. CST

    ZOMG!!! OVERHEARD IN TRAILER AT 1:27 ...

    by BringingSexyBack

    "Rob you made me spill my latte! Rob!"

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:48 p.m. CST

    I'm an English Major F-1000

    by HExTeXly

    I'm reading Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow right now (which, I must admit, is pretty low-brow...like reading a coloring book really). See, I'm the sort that is so fucking smart, my head would blow up if I didn't use sites like this to relieve the pressure on my brain. It's sort of a "retard valve" if you will. I'm here the same reason you are (and are too proud to admit): I'm a nerd and a geek and I love film.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:49 p.m. CST

    I THOUGHT CRUSTACEANS ARE THE INSECTS OF THE SEA

    by BringingSexyBack

    and that's why over-improved Jews don't eat them.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:51 p.m. CST

    The Indy 4 trailer is close now. I can feel it

    by Orionsangels

    It's starting to feel spielbergerish

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:51 p.m. CST

    I MAJORED IN ENGLISH LIT TOO

    by BringingSexyBack

    Trust me, you ain't gonna get a job with that pedigree. Switch it to a minor and major in finance instead. Or anything.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:53 p.m. CST

    re: MRX67 rants

    by Larry Sellers

    Some people enjoy going to the movies to see a giant monster eat people and destroy buildings and shit out whale-crab-lice (i.e., those who run the site and >50% of those who read it). Some people don't (i.e., you and <50% of readers...yes the numbers are out of my ass but you get my point). It's a matter of opinion, man. And A STORY, not necessarily a GOOD ONE, may be centered on a protagonist going around killing monsters and saving the day. This one isn't. This is a movie you would call "unconventional". The protagonist(s) clearly die(s) which is how the audience is seeing this footage to begin with. That's a given for anyone who thinks about what they're seeing in the trailers. IN MY OPINION, I think it's sort of interesting that J.J. took an unrealistic concept (as you've said) that's been treated rather crappily in the past and given it a first person perspective. It's not something we've seen before in a giant-monster-attacks-city flick. Putting a realistic twist on something like that isn't appealing to you? Don't see it. To say it isn't a good story or even a good movie (which you yourself, good sir, have not yet seen) because of how it's structured is downright hypocritical. And IMO it's sort of ridiculous to spend time on here and complain about how not everyone offers an intelligent response to the articles. This is where people come not only to offer stupid, offhand, silly comments about upcoming shitfests but also to say something meaningful about whatever the topic is. I don't know why someone would come to this site expecting to read solely the latter, or any site with a forum for that matter. Again, it's all a matter of opinion, my friend.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:54 p.m. CST

    IT'S CHTULU AND JAMIE LYNN SPEARS' LOVE CHILD!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Is her boyfriend gonna do time for statutory rape or what? Will her childbirth be on pay-per-view?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:54 p.m. CST

    It's too soon!

    by Buck Turgidson

    :-D

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST

    by Larry Sellers

    Well I had something meaningful to say but it all got cut off. In short, it's all a matter of opinion. And to bitch about the silly, offhand comments people make is to ignore the thoughtful comments that actually are present in the TBs. I also typed something about the story being unconventional...oh right. I don't see how just because we know the ending (which isn't hard to figure out given what we've seen in the trailers/spots), and just because it's a monster flick makes it B level. A first person POV monster flick hasn't been done before. It still might be interesting.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST

    I think this is it...

    by SooperHearO

    I found this on one of the other talkbacks: http://tinyurl.com/2ohylc. Not sure if this is the real deal. If it is, I think it looks ridiculous and wouldn't see it if you paid me.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST

    IT'S A NEW STAR TREK MOVIE!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    See the Enterprise in the sky?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST

    wackybantha: the pic isn't legit...

    by The Dum Guy

    And I think That 70s Venom has a point, in this post 9/11 mentality that we all have, how can we not be sure a giant lion wouldn't attack us, even if it hasn't occured yet?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST

    DAMN SOOPERHEARO GOT THE SCOOP YO!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    So that's what a ManWhaleCrab looks like ...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11 p.m. CST

    re: sooperhearo

    by Larry Sellers

    It's concept art that a "friend" of one of the artists tried to debunk as old hat in a TB not too long ago. I wouldn't doubt it if that's what it looks like but considering the entire movie takes place at night what does it matter what it looks like? We probably won't see the entire thing until the end and isn't the mayhem it causes a lot more interesting than the creature itself?

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Thank you Dum Guy

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Not so dum I see. I saw that on the Discovery Channel too.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST

    See, I've always called insects...

    by veebeeyes

    the bugs of the sea. I mean, people watch those silly Discovery Channel shows where some dude eats bugs and they're like, "oooh, gross! He ate BUGS!" But then these people go right out and eat crabs and shrimp. And even worse, they go out and eat filter feeders such as clams and oysters, which are basically nothing but big slimy bags of poop and poison. But yeah, crusrtaceans ARE the bugs of the sea, as far as I'm concerned. They look JUST LIKE BUGS. And I'll bet that they taste similar too. Not that I'd ever eat a cockroach or a grasshopper, but if I did, I'm willing to bet that they wouldn't taste half bad. People just fool themselves into thinking that eating crustaceans is better. But really, imagine you've never seen a shrimp before. And then you go to a seafood restaurant and see someone getting served a big old plate of shrimp. Then you see that person just slurping those little critters down. You're not gonna say to yourself, "oh, that's cool. Shrimp are cool." You're just gonna see someone gobbling down a big plate full of large nasty bugs, then you'll run up to the dude, grab his shoulders, and say "What the hell are you doing?! Those are BUGS!" Okay, you might not take it THAT far. I wouldn't, because even if you think that bugs are nasty, you should respect the culinary tastes of different cultures the same way you don't want people getting all up in your face whenever you eat bacon. So even if you wouldn't be a total dick, you'd probably be thinking, "damn, that motherfucker eats bugs. Fuck that shit."

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:05 p.m. CST

    SIN

    by Scorecard

    Someone in a feedback a few days ago mentioned in being like Sin from Final Fantasy (whatever number it was) and I thought that was a good description of what it could be (for those of you who know the game)

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:06 p.m. CST

    That would be Final Fantasy 10.

    by veebeeyes

    I thought it was a cool looking Final Boss. Some of those Final Fantasy monsters sure were strange!

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Here are some set pics and post production pics...

    by The Dum Guy

    http://tinyurl.com/3xl5e2

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST

    It's a giant kitten!!!

    by ZeroCorpse

    LOLCATS are attacking.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Larry...

    by SooperHearO

    I for one hope that I'm wrong, my friend. I want to like this movie so bad. But with the shaky cam, no name mediocre actors playing snobby, pretty-boy characters, and everyone fighting a shadow throughout most (if not, all) of the movie, I'm afraid there is not going to be much to like.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:27 p.m. CST

    JUST SHOW THE WHALEASAURUS REX FFS.

    by dr.bulber

    thats all anyone wants to see. oh and also that whole pussy/cock crumpston-thing whatever.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Whatup, BSB

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    I seriously thought the lion shtick had been played out by other talkbackers many Cloverfield talkbacks ago. Then it came back around and was funny again. Now I took it upon myself to come at it from a different angle by laying out an argument of all the lamest things I could think of from other talkbacks in one post. Well, people either get all Charles Bronson in Deathwish, or try to actually reason with you. Anyway, TomBodet, keep the faith ... [cue ESPN music] This. Is. AICN Talkback.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Oh, a question I forgot to ask.

    by veebeeyes

    I'm sure that this has probably been answered, and I'm a dumb motherfucker cocksucker who should die with a dick in my mother's father's cock's ass for not having known about it yet, but I'm gonna ask anyway, and fuck you if you have a problem with that. Anyway, why would a giant whale/crab/snail monster just suddenly attack New York City and then leave? That doesn't make any sense. I mean, why is it here? Assuming it's here to eat people, it doesn't really matter if it leaves. You know it'll just be back as soon as it gets hungry again. Self-defense is out as a motive, since attacking us is apparently the very thing that prompts us into trying to blast the hell out of it with missiles. The only explanation I can think of is that it's just an asshole, which seems a little bit unrealistic if it is indeed a cross between a whale, a crab, and a snail. Anyway, if I'm not a fucking idiot for not knowing the answer to this question already, then I'll surely be a fucking idiot for asking questions that no one knows the answer to yet. And that's why I hate all of you. I don't post here very much, but I've read a lot of your comments, and do you really have to be such assholes about everything? And yes, I am fully aware of the irony of me calling you assholes when no one here has yet been an asshole to me. So you can point that out if you want to, but it'll honestly be a waste of time. But I've rambled on too long, and I've been unfair to you. I know that most of you are cool, and that it was wrong of me to judge all of you based on the actions of a particularly vocal minority of dickheads. I'm sorry about what I said, and I will try to be more fair in the future. I hope that you will forgive me for my comments. Now, why exactly is the monster attacking the city? I haven't seen much discussion about the monster's MOTIVATIONS. If it's a creature from the sea, what motivates it to come out of the sea just to fuck people up? This is, of course, one of the first questions we ask whenever monsters start fucking things up, so I'm going to assume that the lack of discussion about the monster's motives implies that that's already well-known.

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:54 p.m. CST

    hamsters mostly come out at night... mostly

    by Lt. Kaffee

    ...

  • Dec. 19, 2007, 11:58 p.m. CST

    bacci40 wrote...

    by Mistahtibbs

    QUOTE: "i hope the monster tries to mate with all the fake boobed actresses in this flick" UNQUOTE in response, another quote. "I love fake boobs." Kevin. The Office. Oh,and me too.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:04 a.m. CST

    its hunter s tompson! *lions get in their car*

    by ironic_name

    bizarroworld.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Just ask Sigfried.

    by veebeeyes

    Or was it Roy? I forget. And I know that they were tigers rather than lions, but close enough. I hope he's okay though, whichever one of them it was. In any case, that just supports the whole idea about monsters being untrustworthy. All a monster is is a big nasty animal that will fuck you up. Crocodiles are monsters. Lions are monsters. Bears are monsters. It's just that we typically don't call them monsters any more because we've gotten accustomed enough to them that we've learned to deal with them. But I still say that a hungry and/or pissoed off tiger or crocodile is every bit as much of a monster as the Alien or The Thing. Having said that, you can't trust the monster. Sure, you can train them. You can live with them your entire life teaching them how to be friendly and lovable. But no matter how friendly your pet monster is, underneath it all there's this little part of it's brain that's saying "dude, fuck this. Don't take orders from this dude. You need to fucking EAT this dude." And sure, some monsters will go their entires lives without eating anyone. They'll ignore the devil whispering into their ears, and they'll be nice. But not all of them are like that. Sometimes, after you've made monsters nice, everything will seem to be going well. And then they'll just decide that they've had enough. And you don't receive a letter telling you that they're ending their relationship with you. No, they tell you that they're dumping you by biting your fucking head off. And that's why I don't trust the monster.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Veebeeyes, you dumb motherfucker cocksucker

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Anyone who knows anything already had the answer to that question before the movie was even announced, so I hope you die. And stop apologizing! I hate it when people apologize. It's always "sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy". Fuck you. Fuck you and your stupid fucking question. I swear to your God, your mother should have fallen down the stairs on top of you when you were a fetus, you liberal douchebag ... Okay, I guess that was sort of my "welcome to the club". I can't do the irony thing anymore--I didn't mean any of those terrible, terrible things I said about you and your fetus. As far as the question, I don't know, but the monster might be like any rural out-of-towner in NY alone. Sure it's all exciting at first "Oooh look I'm in the big town!" But after a while the isolation and pressure-cooker grind of daily existence in the city gets to you, and you long for the calm embrace of somewhere where people know your name, so, you leave, a little wiser and more appreciative of your home (in this case, the sea).

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:19 a.m. CST

    paranoia

    by ironic_name

    why do new tbers show up and ask stupid questions?<P>its cause they're interested, but don't have the time/smarts to do a search, right? viral marketing wouldn't do a full arg on websites, right?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:27 a.m. CST

    It is a little weird, ironic

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Paranoia is total awareness.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Xiphos

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    My pa warned me "son, I never did trust them Giant Fucking Lions. Arrogant pricks, and they'll turn on you quciker'n a bad batch of collard greens. Stay away from 'em., mah boy." Then he showed me his mutilated leg, and I was like "Damn."

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:52 a.m. CST

    So, I guess no one knows...

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    no one knows anything FACTUAL about this movie? Rants of it being "lame" and complaints about how unoriginal it is... I take it these folks have seen it and know? If so, what is it about? What does the monster look like? Where does it come from? Facts. Details. Please.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:07 a.m. CST

    HExTeXly

    by F-1000

    I'm not too proud to admit that I'm a film geek and a nerd. I'm just not a film geek and nerd for obviously low-brow and pedestrian geek fare, and I think it's an oxymoron to call into question the intelligence of people who aren't.<p> I'm happy that you are an English major, my post obviously wasn't to call into question your level of intelligence, rather point out the folley of your explicit and/or implicit argument that "people who don't read AICN interviews about a hyped up popcorn movie aren't intelligent."<p> Thanks for laying the sarcasm on so very thickly, too much icing IMO though, you obviously didn't get my sarcasm in referring to Steinbeck. <p> As for being an English major, wow, congratulations. I can visualize how your e-peen must stand at attention at the declaration of your higher education! I just read literature, however, as an intelligent person I don't feel like I require a professor to explain to me all of the inferences I am supposed to make from a particular work. I don't need training wheels to comprehend literature I guess you could say. And if one is so inclined to delve deeper into the interpretations of what they are reading there are more than enough works of literary criticism for one to choose from.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Lt. Kaffee - hamsters mostly come out at night... mostly

    by Mundungus

    Okay. You got me. 1st a smile, then a snicker, then a full blown chuckle.- Brovo

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Bravo as well...

    by Mundungus

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:51 a.m. CST

    OMGZ LOOK AT THIS FUCKING CLOVERFIELD!

    by F-1000

    HOLY SHITTING DICK-NIPPLES! LOOK AT THIS CLOVERFIELD! IT'S SO MOTHER FUCKING CTHULHU! OMGZ ITZ ALIVFE AND RAPING BUILDINGZ! HENTACLE PR0n! THE STATUE OF LIBERTY GETS IT TOO!! WHY? CUZ THAT BITCH WAS TOTALLY ASKING FOR IT! RAEP! RAEP! WE DON'T KNOW IF TEH MOVIE IS WINZ BUT WE DO KNO IF YOU FOLLOW THE VIRAL CAMPAIGN YOU WILL WIN MASSIVE INTERNETZ!!111!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:53 a.m. CST

    OH MAI GAWD!

    by F-1000

    My hyped level is over 9000!!! There, I'm being a prototypical fanboi now. Oh fuck, I totally forgot the compulsory rant/complaint post that goes AFTER the orgasmic blissful rant! No matter, I'll continue this back and forth in the next Cloverfield topic!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:17 a.m. CST

    This talkback is definitely rated R

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    some people around here need to wash out their mouth

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:19 a.m. CST

    For the sake of argument, I'll ramble on sans-sense (nonsense)..

    by The Dum Guy

    I haven't seen this movie, but<br><br>I hate onions<br><br>Malicks (sp?) Badlands was the orginal story that Natural Born Killers was based on<br><Br>It is a LION<br><bR>I wonder how long I'll keep doing this<br><br>I haven't seen the movie<Br><br>break

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:57 a.m. CST

    lame

    by javery56

    that tv spot wasnt even that great, its the worst peice of marketing for the film so far. Harry killed it for me in his introduction i think.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Its a GIANT ENEMY CRAB!

    by GaiusBaltarsMojo

    Attack its weak point for MASSIVE damage! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g1fr5vk72M

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:10 a.m. CST

    GODZILLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by DURANGO66

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:08 a.m. CST

    HEY, ROB. ROB... IT'S ALIVE.

    by That 70s Venom

    No... seriously though, Rob. Rob. Are you listening to me? Rob... it's alive. It's alive... but guess what... it's not only alive. Rob... it's HUGE, as well. Rob? Rob, are you there? Rob? Can you hear me now? Rob? Oh okay, Rob... it's Voltron, homie. We're all fucked. Voltron has invaded New York. GG.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:58 a.m. CST

    IT'S MICHAEL BAY'S EGO, filmed by someone else.

    by Keith Maniac

    General: "Sir this thing wont just stop at New York, it wants to destroy humanity!" Steven Spielberg: "My God, i have funded a monster, a tasteless monster!"

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Keith Maniac

    by ironic_name

    your story is too scary to be committed to film.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:08 a.m. CST

    This is going to play hell on my motion sickness

    by Macktheknife01

    I hope they test this and manage to tell a story that doesnt require a barf bag.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:13 a.m. CST

    WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS MONSTER'S COLOSTAMY BAG?

    by BringingSexyBack

    A lion's sack of shit.<p> Thank you, thank you very much. *bows*

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:15 a.m. CST

    XIPHOS, NIC CAGE NEEDS TO 'HEAD' OVER TO ELIZABETH, NJ

    by BringingSexyBack

    At least one of those 5,000 pollutin' factories must have a giant can of spray-on hair. hehe

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:17 a.m. CST

    *spoilers* a spies review and description of Cloverfield

    by box

    http://www.realityfilmspoiled.com

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:33 a.m. CST

    I don't watch TV

    by Abominable Snowcone

    So I didn't see any of it. So please, just tell me, do some of those emo-kids get murdered?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:50 a.m. CST

    CUMPSTON IS A LIER ...

    by kenichi tanaka

    I don't think Cumpston saw the movie ... just his way of grabbing some attention on this site and AICN just humors him. Has this little jackass ever proven that he saw the film?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Ain't it Cloverfield News

    by Aquatarkusman

    Never have so many people been besieged with so many entries containing so little information for a movie that will make so little money.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Actually...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...this movie will make well north of $100m, whether you fags decide to see it or not.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 8:47 a.m. CST

    What Makes You Think That, Hugh?

    by Aquatarkusman

    The mid-January release with half the country buried under snow and ice? The lack of any name stars? The constant reminders of Godzilla? The fact that the trailer makes people nauseated from motion sickness?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 8:55 a.m. CST

    I've been watching this over and over...

    by cornponious

    http://tinyurl.com/3b32ec <p> I can see that the creature has some kind of covering on its back. The covering appears to be pretty much the same color as the rest of its body. <p> I can also see the creature's LEFT leg as it moves across the frame. It doesn't appear to be moving much though. This could be because what we're seeing in this clip is not the final "cut" of the monster. I mean, it could be that CGI isn't complete yet. Actually, it probably isn't in this clip. <p> I can also see the creature's RIGHT leg. The creature appears to have a very slim lower body, with small, slim legs. It actually, in this clip, looks a little awkward as it walks. <p> Am I putting way too much into this?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Is ABTAR there?

    by box

    Your daughter come to my house and kick my dog.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 9:03 a.m. CST

    i see a lizard-like face

    by ArcadianDS

    at 00:05 there is a greenish lizard-like face in the dark gap between the buildings on either side of the street, and it appears to have a horn on its nose.<p> With the slusho site(s) referring to oil, and oil being a fossil residue, maybe what we've found is a dinosaur that managed to adapt and survive at the depths of the ocean or beneath the earth's crust, and the offshore drilling broke it free. Surface, anyone?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 9:40 a.m. CST

    IT'S FRIGGIN' OBVIOUS WHAT THE MONSTER IS !!

    by tritium

    DINSDALE !!???<p> DINSDALE !! ??<p><p><p> It's Spiny Norman, the Giant Hedgehog

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 9:43 a.m. CST

    It's not "a" lion...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...it's The_Lion! Out to avenge himself upon the world for being assraped in talkback.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST

    MRX67

    by DocPazuzu

    Are you for real or just Linda Mason, back from talkbacker gulag to torture us?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST

    the timing meter is off

    by ArcadianDS

    so what i saw wasn't 00:05 but its around the 2nd to last frame. I think much of what people *THINK* is the monster is falling debris. The monster isn't even seen until the last 3 frames of that shot. The preceding frames show a building crumbling apart.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Spiny Norman

    by tritium

    That was a Monty Python reference, by the way<p> <p> Spiny Norman is tearing apart NYC in search of the Piranha brothers, Doug and Dinsdale Piranha<p><p><p> Vince: "Well one day I was at home threatening the kids when I looks out through the hole in the wall and sees this tank pull up and out gets one of Dinsdale's boys, so he comes in nice and friendly and says Dinsdale wants to have a word with me, so he chains me to the back of the tank and takes me for a scrape round to Dinsdale's place and Dinsdale's there in the conversation pit with Doug and Charles Paisley, the baby crusher, and two film producers and a man they called 'Kierkegaard', who just sat there biting the heads of whippets and Dinsdale says 'I hear you've been a naughty boy Clement' and he splits me nostrils open and saws me leg off and pulls me liver out and I tell him my name's not Clement and then... he loses his temper and nails me head to the floor."<p><p> Interviewer: He nailed your head to the floor?<p><p> Vince: At first yeah<p><p> Presenter: Another man who had his head nailed to the floor was Stig O' Tracy.<p><p> Interviewer: I've been told Dinsdale Piranha nailed your head to the floor.<p><p> Stig: No. Never. He was a smashing bloke. He used to buy his mother flowers and that. He was like a brother to me.<p><p> Interviewer: But the police have film of Dinsdale actually nailing your head to the floor. <p><p> Stig: (pause) Oh yeah, he did that. Interviewer: Why?<p><p> Stig: Well he had to, didn't he? I mean there was nothing else he could do, be fair. I had transgressed the unwritten law.<p><p> Interviewer: What had you done?<p><p> Stig: Er... well he didn't tell me that, but he gave me his word that it was the case, and that's good enough for me with old Dinsy. I mean, he didn't *want* to nail my head to the floor. I had to insist. He wanted to let me off. He'd do anything for you, Dinsdale would.<p><p> Interviewer: And you don't bear him a grudge?<p><p> Stig: A grudge! Old Dinsy. He was a real darling.<p><p> Interviewer: I understand he also nailed your wife's head to a coffee table. Isn't that true Mrs O' Tracy?<p><p> Mrs O' Tracy: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.<p><p> Stig: Well he did do that, yeah. He was a hard man. Vicious but fair<p><p> :)

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    PG-13 = PUSSY FAGG0T SHIT!

    by Chutch

    uh yeah so that review is fucking fake ass cuz heads being bit off of yuppies bodies does not happen in large or even decent quantities in PG-muthafuckin-13 movies. also the ugly chick seems to be the headliner-which sucks because the second chick is way hotter. fuck this movie, fuck a lion and fuck voltron.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST

    its a giant skeleton shrimp

    by ArcadianDS

    did a wiki on whale louse and found a picture of a skeleton shrimp - the structure of the back and the limbs look like a good match for what we see in the clips, and wouldn't it be just like JJ to make a gigantic shrimp attack New York? Who would have seen that coming?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 10:14 a.m. CST

    IT'S YOUR MAMA!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    That's right, yours!!!!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 10:16 a.m. CST

    IT'S JESUS!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    And this time he ain't goin' quietly!!!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 10:17 a.m. CST

    IT'S MOHAMMED!!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    That's why JJ can't show its face, or he'll have a fatwah on his ass.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    is there a SAG nom talkback

    by krycek08

    i can't find it

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:04 a.m. CST

    IT'S.....Cynthia McKenney!

    by classyfredblassy

    After just announcing her run for president! Look at all those white people she can slap when she is 300 feet tall, and 600 feet wide!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:04 a.m. CST

    IT'S.....Cynthia McKenney!

    by classyfredblassy

    After just announcing her run for president! Look at all those white people she can slap when she is 300 feet tall, and 600 feet wide!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    ANCHORITE THE ONLY LOVE YOU FEEL IS MY MICRO GRATER

    by BringingSexyBack

    tearing up your colon. FUCK YOU BITCH.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:37 a.m. CST

    IT'S AL SHARPTON!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    The lice are from his tree-sized pubes!!!!! ZOMG

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST

    THE CIA HAS NOT CLASSIFIED A MICRO GRATER IN THE COLON

    by BringingSexyBack

    as official torture, so it must be okay.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Xiphos

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Don't encourage them.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    XIPHOS - IT'S A K.O. IN THE FIRST 2 SECONDS

    by BringingSexyBack

    as Anchorite's bleeding asshole has his mommy throwing the towel into the ring. She may have produced a demon spawn but even I have sympathy for her...

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST

    HEY MNG WHY YOU HOLDING BACK THE CHTHULU SONG?

    by BringingSexyBack

    Haven't you heard the call from many a TBer?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Hey box - HAHAHA!!! kickdog.wav

    by Lamerz

    That's some funny shit. "She did! She did! You fucking guy!"<P> "Just because I'm ____, does not mean I stink!"

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:03 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Hmmm, I was not aware. But belting out the hits has got to be timely and spontaneous. That way, I stand a better chance of giving my fans what they truly want.<P>Meanwhile, the humorless dummies in the Neill Cumpston TB disqualified themselves from such a privelege.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:12 p.m. CST

    WHAT CAN I SAY?

    by BringingSexyBack

    I'm attracted to Jewish assholes.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:13 p.m. CST

    IT'S A JEWISH GIRL!!!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    and she's mad cuz she's getting a Honda and not a Mercedes for her Bat Mitzvah!!!!!!!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:19 p.m. CST

    I'M OFF TO DO CHRISTMAS SHOPPING

    by BringingSexyBack

    Don't miss me too much, my little bitch.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:30 p.m. CST

    The sad truth is this...

    by ATARI

    <br> <br> <br> <br> The movie won't be half as entertaining as this TB. <br> <br> <br> <br>

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST

    No Way This Will Be As Good As THE HOST

    by LaserPants

    But it'll probably be cool.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Xiphos

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I hear ya on the flame wars, man. Yet sometimes, with those two, it's more like watching worms fuck.<P>And yes, that Cumpston TB is all too symptomatic of the apparent decline of the standard AICN Talkbacker. In fact, it's just one sign of the increasingly bad trends contained within this site's TBs. But I digress.<P>Anyway, I'm right there with you - just reading some of those clueless posts (trying to masquerade themselves as "above it" or "having more important things to do") made me shake my head in amazement.<P>BTW - are you home for the Holidays? How has the special rehab been going?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:10 p.m. CST

    good to see that you TBers are in the holiday spirit...

    by Rickey Henderson

    Seriously, what the everloving fuck is wrong with you cocksuckers?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Cumpston is Patton Oswalt? Doubtful...

    by Rickey Henderson

    I've been coming to AICN since the 1997 version of Godzilla and I kind of doubt that Patton Oswalt is anyone other than Harry or one of the other misanthropes.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Cumpston Talkback...

    by YakMalla

    Allow me to opine that the Cumpston talkback will go down as one of the all-time greats. Every story needs a villain, and the Cumpston haters, with all their "ban him" pitchforkery, qualify in spades.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Also, enough with the snobbishness about "getting it"

    by Rickey Henderson

    We get it. It's a Neil Cumpston review. It's intended to be a joke. You're a brilliant bastard for having realized that. All the 12 year olds who didn't get the joke are unworthy of catching your man-milk in their hair. Mazel tov to everyone. I fall into the category of people that gets the joke, but doesn't find it terribly funny. Seriously now, why is BOMBAST! considering so hilarious at this website...? I just don't get it.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    it affected his batting average

    by just pillow talk

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    heh, Xiphos, yeah, Rickey keeps busy

    by Rickey Henderson

    (congrats on being one of the 3 AICN talkbackers who know who Rickey Henderson actually is). Rickey's a busy guy, but he makes a point of seeing what Harry & Co. are up to from time to time.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Hey there Pillow!

    by Rickey Henderson

    Long time no chat! So what are the odds of getting Santana? pretty goddamned slim, right?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Any of this Sound like Timely/DC Comics Circa 1960?

    by YakMalla

    Around then, every cover of Tales to Astonish and Challengers of the Unknown had a picture of some kinda hugeantic (not to be confused w/ "hughgrantic") monster attacking the city.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST

    for what we have to give up (entire farm system)

    by just pillow talk

    AND pay him a gajillion dollars, I just don't think you can do it. The only way would be to get rid of Delgado for some minor leaguers, but really, with where Carlos is at in his career, what will you get for him? Tis dark times for a Met fan yet again I fear. 3 solid players...and....

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:48 p.m. CST

    SK229

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    It's tough to say whether or not Patton Oswalt is really Neill Cumpston. I've heard both yes and no. I think there may have been a time when he was supposedly "outed". Yet I think I've also seen Moriarty flat-out deny that it's him. (Of course, this could all be part of the ruse...) So, who knows. Maybe one day, the truth will be revealed.<P>And I know how you feel when it comes to the Talkbacks. Aside from the occassional bit of genuine news or in-depth on-topic discussion, it seems the only thing worth looking forward to is this site's cast of lunatics and nutjobs. And it is in this that we must place our hope. Because after that HOBBIT announcement, I have a feeling that we'll be seeing some legends in the making.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Yeah, he is kind of a fat mess

    by Rickey Henderson

    The market for starting pitchers is so ridiculously overpriced... 2008 might not be so awful (Rickey just bought two 7 packs to Shea, so that's what he's telling himself). Look, we've got some great young talent in Gomez and Mulvey. I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do. And like you said, there's always Wright/Reyes/Beltran. Just please Omar, don't sign Livian Hernandez... Please....

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    by Rickey Henderson

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    "Choke job" doesn't quite begin to describe it

    by Rickey Henderson

    Spontaneous combustion is a more fitting term. The Mets fucking owe Rickey after the shit they pulled in September... Argh. Rickey's a Giants fan, which is only marginally better than being a Jets fan. They're in the process of royally screwing the pooch as we speak...

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:03 p.m. CST

    thanks Xiphos...for piling it on :-)

    by just pillow talk

    The Mets, simply put, got cock punched. <p>I'm not sold on Gomez, but we'll see. And Rickey, there is NO comparison to a Jets vs. Giants Fan. Since I have been alive, the Jets have never made it to the Superbowl. The Giants: 3 times. Want to trade?<p>And I'm thinking the Jets could use Livian as their QB, because really, who would notice?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Yeah but at least the Jets don't dissapoint you

    by Rickey Henderson

    You know from Game 1 that they're going to be mediocre. The G-men are a different story I've witnessed the Giants quit on Coughlin in November for the past 3 seasons now. You can pretty much set your watch by it. Heh @ Livian for QB. Livian probably would make a better QB than Glass Pennington or that pillow biting Eli goddamned Manning.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Word Xiphos, the dbacks look nasty...

    by Rickey Henderson

    Somebody's gotta compensate for the fact that the Nationals and Marlins will be trotting out minor league teams this season.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST

    They just fuck it up every year Xiphos

    by Rickey Henderson

    It's pretty much everything you listed: Manning hasn't established himself as a dependable QB. If he was going to develop into a decent player it would've happened by now. The players don't respond to Coughlin and he ends up looking pissy on the sidelines for an entire game. And the injuries. That's what's really fucked the Giants over in recent years. And now Shockey's out for the season? Fucking wonderful. This is why Rickey doesn't enjoy football nearly as much as he does baseball--the injuries are ridiculous.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Shockey wasn't even involved anyway

    by just pillow talk

    D'backs have definitely improved themselves, whereas the Mets have decided to stand pat with the folding chair team they put out last year. <p>I've mentioned this to Xiphos already, but with the NFL now Rickey, expansion has ruined the depth on teams now.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    The monster is Britney's pregnant little sister

    by emp

    with crabs.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:46 p.m. CST

    The only way to stop any sort of performance

    by just pillow talk

    enhancing drugs is to 'force' the union to adopt all the measures necessary to prevent its usage. Will it stop it a 100%? No, but they've got to crack down. If they have to shut the game down for a time, so be it.<p>The same could be said for the NFL of course....but since they make sooooo much gobs of money, it ain't gonna be touched.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Totally agree Pillow

    by Rickey Henderson

    There's no depth in the rosters so all it takes is one key injury to completely destroy an entire team's season.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:52 p.m. CST

    yes, teams were rewarded for drafting good talent

    by just pillow talk

    Now, time to renew contract, sorry...time to move to a new team. <p>That's what makes the Patriots an even more remarkable story, in terms of what they have accomplished over the last several years. Are they better than the '70's Steelers or '80's 49'er's/Redskins....hell naw! But considering their QB and Coach are the only constants (more or less), that's pretty amazing. And yes, I loathe the pricks with a passion.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    I'll maintain that Jim Brown was more of a man

    by just pillow talk

    than any of these roided up pussies.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Yeah, they will never touch the NFL, re: steroids

    by Rickey Henderson

    come on now.... a 300 pound man being able to run at 30pmh in full padding then suddenly stop on a dime? Yeah, that shit aint natural. But who cares, Joe Public loves his Sunday afternoon NFL with the FOX broadcasting crew! <br> <br> As far as steroids in MLB go, everyone is complicit. Baseball franchises were making money hand over fist and that's all anyone cared about. Selig, the owners, the players, the union, and us, the fans are all complicit in it. Let's see where they go from here... I'm also glad they outed that prick Clemens, but I'm shocked at other names not being named... Schilling? Pujols?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    later boys

    by just pillow talk

    Perhaps Cloverfield is Roger Clemens' ego?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 2:56 p.m. CST

    later pillow--Cloverfield is actually David Wells

    by Rickey Henderson

    just an FYI

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    The name "Cloverfield"...

    by HB_Dad

    The name "Cloverfield" i believe is named after the street near where someone involved with the picture is based. This is most likely in Santa Monica, CA where one of the main offramps/streets goes by that name, and many entertainment companies linked to the Movie industry are based (some actually on the actual street. It is probablt also tied in in the script, but the name probably started from the aforementioned origin I described.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    I just love how people talk shit to each other on here

    by Han Cholo

    But more often than not if you came face to face with the guy flaming you, chances are you could beat the living shit out of them.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Actually, if I remember correctly...

    by JeremiahTheProphet

    Somebody did some sluething with webmasting and phone numbers given to the registration of the viral sites and found an airport or something called "Cloverfield" that was near the Bad Robot studios in, you guessed it, Santa Monica.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Oh, and the monster?

    by JeremiahTheProphet

    Well, it's obvious that it's Total Fucking Destruction. He has to be doing SOMETHING if he doesn't post anymore, right?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Yes, Han Cholo, and your point is?

    by Rickey Henderson

    How the fuck does what you just said contribute to anything? Yes, there's a 50% chance that your point is correct, but so what? Where did that come from?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST

    If we go see this movie....

    by Automaton Overlord

    THEN THE LION HAS ALREADY WON!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Does Dramamine work for Shaky Cam?

    by Andre the Frog

    God, I want to see this. But I don't want to barf all over the theatre.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Wait, Its Actually Called Cloverfield?

    by LaserPants

    I dunno, guys. I think that first trailer looked great, but this one looks pretty awful. Like a bad teen horror movie. Still, I'm reserving judgement until the actual movie comes out.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST

    PG-13?

    by LaserPants

    Oooooh. Enthusiasm dropping. This is gonna be a big loud nothing.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Forget This, Just Rent and/or Buy THE HOST

    by LaserPants

    Best giant monster movie EVAR.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Host is awesome.

    by Andre the Frog

    I actually cared who it ate.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:10 p.m. CST

    IT'S THE PUERTO RICAN DAY PARADE!!!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    If you stay home, shut your lights and lock your doors you have a good chance of surviving the parade.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    re Cumpston

    by DocPazuzu

    The talkback seems to be getting even worse. As for likening the asstards there to snakes being outed by fire, I'd like to take that a step further. The more it's pointed out to them how stupid they sound, the more they talk about it. They're like horses being led out of a burning barn and then running back inside because they're scared and confused.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST

    SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET NEILL CUMPSTON

    by BringingSexyBack

    Just be glad it's not you, and enjoy the Cum.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Hey MNG...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...there is a tangible need for THE CTHULHU DANCE in the Hellboy 2 talkback... ;)

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    XIPHOS - THE PR DAY PARADE IS LIKE KARABALA ON A GOOD DAY

    by BringingSexyBack

    Okay, not that bad. It's been pretty good the past few years since the one time a bunch of women were sexually assaulted in Central Park (captured on video - was just minutes away from a gang rape). Police presence has been tight ever since. To the Puerto Ricans' credit, the perps were Dominican. Which reminds me of what an Argentinian once told me ... <p> Know what a Puerto Rican is? A Mexican crossed with a Whitey.<p> Know what a Dominican is? A Puerto Rican crossed with a Black.<p> Those wacky Hispanics ...

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST

    "could beat them in a pie eating contest."

    by DocPazuzu

    Not really something to brag about, though, is it?

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    XIPHOS - TOO DAMNED MANY!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Every race on Earth has a damned parade. Even teh gays (well, that's really Halloween). I'd say the Irish and Puerto Ricans have the biggest. The Chinese pretty much keep it in Chinatown (it's cool, with the dragons and fireworks). Do you visit NYC? Make sure you come for the San Gennaro festival in Little Italy - oh the smell of sausage and peppers ... MAMA MIA!!!!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    HE XI - LATERZ ... GOTTA RUN OUT FOR SOME SAUSAGE AND PEPPERS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Just made myself hungry ... later!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 5:44 p.m. CST

    The Gays Have the Benefit Of Two Major NYC Parades

    by LaserPants

    Halloween and Pride. Halloween has lots of closet cases though, whilst Pride is full on supergay all day long.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST

    "Mom, I think Cloverfield just

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST

    batted the head off of

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST

    the Statue of Liberty."

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST

    "That's it Richie! You're grounded!"

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:39 p.m. CST

    "I hate you and I hope Cloverfield eats you!"

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:44 p.m. CST

    "Go to bed and think about what you just said!"

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:45 p.m. CST

    "There WILL be no tomorrow, Mom!"

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield - this is what it means....

    by Russman

    It's a code name that the military in the movie has given this video tape. So it's: Project Cloverfield - check out the interview with the director.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:50 p.m. CST

    A giant lion, ehhh.....

    by The Dum Guy

    Fighting a giant turtle?<br><br>Now thats something that would put asses into seats.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Lion turtle fights

    by professor murder

    Sounds like we should throw Ultraman into the mix. He loves being giant and whoopin butt.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:06 p.m. CST

    OH OH OH

    by mattforce7

    Placenta

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Holy crap! Its a giant Sidney Poitier!

    by The Dum Guy

    "They call me Mr. Tibbs, muthafucker!"

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    I know what the monster is...

    by sidburnd1

    Its a giant whale beast with parasite barnacles that eat people. Seriously...I stumbled upon it with a 'stumbling' program. looks okay, nothing to get excited about.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST

    !!!New Pic Of The Cloverfield Monster!!!

    by LaserPants

    http://tinyurl.com/232whl

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST

    New NEW Picture

    by YakMalla

    Honestly, LaserPants, where do you get your information? Dark Horizons has the REAL picture. http://tinyurl.com/22s95v

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 8:57 p.m. CST

    I thought this was the concept art

    by The Dum Guy

    http://tinyurl.com/2v9pax <br><br>I believe they've toned it down if they received a PG-13, but it is going to be similar.

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 9:03 p.m. CST

    lol The Dum Guy

    by heyscot

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST

    I want the "It's aliiighvghhn it's huge" Guy

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    To have a Stallone-style chatback with the talkbackers. AICN--find this dude! Let him face the consequences of his line delivery! Let him see what he hath wrought!

  • Dec. 20, 2007, 11:48 p.m. CST

    "I've seen it! It's one of those things that formed when the My

    by Mockingbuddha

    I think they pulled the garthim suits from The Dark Crystal out of mothballs to make the whale lice. The monster is probably that weird big head chick wth one eye.

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 12:08 a.m. CST

    heyscot

    by The Dum Guy

    I'm glad at least one person was amused by it.<Br><br>let the horror begin

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Two favorite quotes from this TB...

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Providing me personally with priceless, unadulterated mirth and/or glee are as follows: 1. "That is probably the dumbest comment I have ever seen in my life." --Mezzanine, in response to me 2. "They're like horses being led out of a burning barn and then running back inside because they're scared and confused." --DocPaz, in response to Cumpston TBers.

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 1:52 a.m. CST

    OFF-TOPIC FOR DOCPAZUZU

    by BringingSexyBack

    Hey Doc, I thought you might find this an interesting article, harkening back to our previous discussion of the false and misleading linking of Jews to NeoCon/Zionism. It also demonstrates how far on the fringe of mainstream Jewish values Anchorite is, despite his protestations to the contrary. http://tinyurl.com/2mqos7 <p> "Today's topic is the paradox--or one of them, anyway--of American Jewish political behavior. No, it's not that hoary old cliché that they "earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans." Rather, it's that they think like enlightened liberals yet allow belligerent right-wingers and neocons who frequently demonize, distort and denounce their values to speak for them in the US political arena. <p> Don't take my word for it. According to the American Jewish Committee's 2007 survey of American Jewry, released December 11, a majority of Jews in this country oppose virtually every aspect of the Bush Administration/neocon agenda. Not only do they disapprove of the Administration's handling of its "campaign against terrorism" (59-31 percent), they believe by a 67-to-27 margin that we should never have invaded Iraq. They are unimpressed by the "surge"--68 percent say it has either made no difference or made things worse, and by a 57-to-35 percent majority they oppose an attack on Iran, even if it was undertaken "to prevent [Iran] from developing nuclear weapons." <p> Jews are also impressively sensible when it comes to Israel/Palestine, all things considered. Though barely more than a third think peace is likely anytime soon, and more than 80 percent believe the goal of the Muslim states is to destroy Israel, a 46-to-43 percent plurality continues to support the creation of a Palestinian state. <p> This wholesale rejection of the Bush/neocon agenda, moreover, is consistent with the way American Jews describe their overall political identity. Jews are more liberal than conservative (43-25 percent) and far more Democratic than Republican (58-15 percent). This preference, significantly, extends to national security issues, often considered a Republican trump card. By a massive 61-to-21 percent margin, Jews say Democrats, not Republicans, are "more likely to make the right decision about the war in Iraq." Regarding terrorism, Democrats win 53-to-30 percent. <p> As a Jew who shares most of these beliefs, I am tempted to trumpet these numbers as big news, but it's news only if you haven't been paying attention. An examination of past AJC surveys as well as a number of other polls of American Jews demonstrates that Jews have remained remarkably faithful to the values of liberal humanism. These views, however, have been obscured in our political discourse by an unholy alliance between conservative-dominated professional Jewish organizations and neoconservative Jewish pundits, aided by pliant and frequently clueless mainstream media that empower these right-wingers to speak for a people with values diametrically opposed to theirs. <p> Take a look at the agendas of some of the most influential Jewish organizations, like the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, the Anti-Defamation League, the Zionist Organization of America and the American Jewish Committee itself; each has historically associated itself with the hawkish side of the debate--and some have done so even when Israel took the more dovish side (the Jewish equivalent of being holier than the Pope). Forget for a moment the argument over whether what some call "the Lobby" is good or bad for America. My point is that it's bad for the Jews. <p> In large part the trouble lies with the antidemocratic structures of these organizations and the apathy of most Jews with regard to organized Jewish life. Major Jewish groups respond to the demands of their top funders and best-organized constituencies. Most American Jews, however, have little or nothing to do with these groups. According to the AJC survey, while 90 percent of Jews say being Jewish is either "very important" (61 percent) or "fairly important" (29 percent) in their lives, exactly half say they belong to a synagogue or temple. A fraction of this number belong to Jewish political organizations, and the number of major funders is but a tiny percentage of that. As with so much of American life, the far-right minority is better funded and better disciplined than the liberal majority. <p> Fault can also be found with lazy editors, reporters, producers and the like who invite neocon and other unrepresentative people to speak for Jews and Jewish values. Consider the most prominent Jewish voices in the punditocracy who regularly sound off on Israel, Iraq, Iran, the Middle East, etc. My list includes Irving Kristol, William Kristol, Seth Lipsky, Martin Peretz, Norman Podhoretz, John Podhoretz, Richard Perle, Richard Cohen, Mortimer Zuckerman, Alan Dershowitz, Jeffrey Goldberg, Lawrence Kaplan, Charles Krauthammer, David Horowitz, Jonah Goldberg, David Gelernter, Ruth Wisse, David Brooks and David Frum. Most are Bush apologists, most supported the invasion of Iraq and most are sympathetic to the idea of an invasion of Iran. Not infrequently, leading Jewish pundits mock and ridicule the majority Jewish views. Irving Kristol, writing in Azure, attacks the "political stupidity" of American Jews. Gelernter, writing in The Weekly Standard, complains of Jewish political behavior as "a lesson in self-destructive nihilism." <p> Given the scare tactics the neocons routinely employ--from their frequent deployment of the intellectually vacuous term "Islamofascism," to Perle and Frum's warning that the nation's only choice is "victory or holocaust"--it is a remarkable tribute to the good sense of American Jewry that it remains a bastion of liberal humanism despite such naked attempts to manipulate longstanding fears and insecurities. <p> These pundits have every right to put forth their views, of course. It's long past time, however, for the mainstream media to recognize just how out of touch they are with the values of the American Jewish mainstream. <p> If not now, when?" <p>

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 1:56 a.m. CST

    BACK ON TOPIC: MANWHALECRAB IS ABE FOXMAN

    by BringingSexyBack

    He's the Al Sharpton of the Jewish community.

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:54 a.m. CST

    I LOVE TALKING IN CAPS!!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:54 a.m. CST

    ITS FUCKING AWESOME

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:54 a.m. CST

    EVERYONE JOIN US IN THIS CAPS CLUB!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:54 a.m. CST

    CAPS RULE!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:55 a.m. CST

    THANK YOU BSB, I FEEL SO FREE NOW!!!!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:55 a.m. CST

    EVERYONE, PLEASE, TALK IN CAPS!!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:55 a.m. CST

    BECAUSE ONCE YOU CAP, YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:56 a.m. CST

    KNICKERS!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:56 a.m. CST

    FECK!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:56 a.m. CST

    WOMEN'S KNICKERS!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:57 a.m. CST

    BSB IS MANWHALECRAB'S AND MANBEARPIG'S LOVECHILD!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:57 a.m. CST

    AW SHIT! I TAKE IT BACK!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:57 a.m. CST

    HOORAY FOR CAPS!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:58 a.m. CST

    ANYONE FEEL LIKE HAVING A CAP-TASTROPHY????

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:58 a.m. CST

    THIS IS CAP-TASTIC!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:59 a.m. CST

    CAP-DERFUL!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:59 a.m. CST

    CAP-SOME!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:59 a.m. CST

    CAP-CELLENT!

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 4 a.m. CST

    ok I'm done

    by J-Dizzle

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 4:03 a.m. CST

    why do I feel uncomfortable with the word "Jewry?"

    by J-Dizzle

    Sounds almost racist...

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 7:47 a.m. CST

    CLOVERFIELD = SLITHIS REMAKE!!!!!

    by classyfredblassy

    That's right. It is actually a remake of 1978's "Slitith", where a mutated creature created by nuclear waste seeks revenge on mankind! And just l like they did in 1978, theaters are going to be giving out "survival kits" to moviegoers. This year the "Cloverfield survival kits" will included: duck tape, a bag of skittles (taste the rainbow, fuckers!), a pack of ribbed trojans, and 40oz of Mickey's malt liquor! Can't hardly wait!

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Brokedick

    by DocPazuzu

    What is your point, exactly? There's nothing in the article I would object to. Is it that you think I'm a neocon? <p> It's probably time you cut down on crank.

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Brokedick

    by DocPazuzu

    What is your point, exactly? There's nothing in the article I would object to. Is it that you think I'm a neocon? <p> It's probably time you cut down on crank.

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 11:08 a.m. CST

    LET ME GUESS, "J-DIZZLE" SHORT FOR JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE?

    by BringingSexyBack

    Why so serious?

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 11:10 a.m. CST

    DOCPAZUZU

    by BringingSexyBack

    My point is I thought you might find the article interesting (I stated as much). I know you're not a NeoCon.

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 11:17 a.m. CST

    HEY XIPHOS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Abraham Foxman is head of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), basically a front for the right-wing Zionist movement. He's also a loudmouth charlatan who berates any Jew for not falling in line with his agenda. A real fucktwat. Here's an article on his take on what genocide means (apparently it's not genocide if Armenians are killed instead of Jews) ... http://www.jewcy.com/tags/abraham_foxman

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 12:02 p.m. CST

    one of the reasons why alien succeeded

    by emeraldboy

    was ridley scotts insistence that audience know very little about the movie. All you got was the legendary poster. With the word alien on it and no one can hear you scream tag line on it. beyond that you knew very little about alien. That is why when you saw it in the cinema in dark and that scene with John Hurt was explosive, nobody saw it coming and that made it all the more tense and shocking. Alien would not have been made today. Because the script would have leaked online and alot of people would have malled it. decried the lack of information, critiqued what the monster looked like . But these are the same who gave out stink, when studios put the movie into one trailer. Personally I want to see the movie in the cinema and not plastered all over the net. People might be pissed at JJ for not giving up more info. Teasers are supposed to tease. the whole point.

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST

    omhygod, those last three pics haahha

    by mattforce7

    i havent laughed so hard in a while, green thing(Ive seen before) Snuggle bear(Not expecting that, and beastly Rossie( not surprising) but some fuuuny shit

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 1:15 p.m. CST

    So a Whale?

    by mattforce7

    I can see that, and would except that. And to whoever said that they are trying to make this our own american monster movie, well, we already did that....1933??? I know thats what JJ and the director were saying though, and i like that they wanted to make a whole new monster maybe one more fitting to a this soon to be nuclear world

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    brokedick

    by DocPazuzu

    Nice sidestepping there. Just come clean. Your point was that Zionism = NeoConservatism. What apparently soars miles above your very slender cranium is that if those same Jews who consider themselves liberals and support a two-state solution were asked if they support Zionism, most of them would say yes. What you refuse to understand (or admit) is that most Jews don't perceive Zionism as being left or right but rather simply the idea of supporting a Jewish homeland in the Middle East. This goes for virtually every political party in Israel from left to right, and also for most Jews around the world. Do you seriously believe that your anally beloved Natalie Portman, when asked if she's a Zionist, would answer in the negative? <p> If so, then I hope you have a glass stomach so you can see where you're going because a head shoved that far up one's own ass won't be easily removed.

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Interesting idea of what the Cloverfield Monster is.

    by Scorpio1031

    I found this interesting take on te Cloverfield Monster. CLOVERFIELD MONSTER REVEALED! CLOVERFIELD MONSTER REVEALED! My name is Norman Coady and I know what the Cloverfield monster is. How can I be so sure? Because I've been working on a very similar premise for the last four years, originally as a novel and now as a rock opera. The monster in "Cloverfield" is Manhattan. The sea beast is the island itself. Why do I think this? I have 6 reasons. But let me get to that in just a minute. First, let's talk about the larger idea for a moment. Now this is important -- I'm *not* accusing anyone of plagiarism because (1) I seriously doubt they copped it from me and (2) No one owns an idea like this and there's plenty of precedent from myth and fiction for it. Still, it's a cool idea and I arrived to it on my own, and would like to keep some space for my own project, Depossession. Depossession is my rock opera about the building of the Brooklyn Bridge. In it, the bridge's real purpose is to strap the leviathan that is Manhattan in place. Depossession is about the bridge's builders, the Roebling family, and the strange illness that affects the foundation diggers (In reality, this disease is the bends, but in my opera it's caused by proximity to the monster.) While the opera us still in development and probably won't be in production until 2008, I've performed songs from it since 2002 and have told stories from it daily as a tour guide atop the Grayline double-decker buses. The music you're hearing in this video comes from two of the opera's instrumentals. Ok, so back to Cloverfield - why am I so sure that the monster in Cloverfield is the island itself? Here are Six reasons: Reason One: Check out the movie poster. Note how the wake in the water is even from the Statue of Libery to Battery Park. Now either that is a super fast kind on monster or it means that whatever rose in the water sank back uniformly, as if you pulled your arm down all at once in a swimming pool. Reason Two: Check out this little snippet of a clip. Look closely. Now let's slow that down and stop. Looks like a giant tentacle, right?. That, I believe, is the same tentacle that reached out to grab the head off the Statue of Libery, flinging it into the city, crushing buildings along the way. Kind of like thisÉ Reason Three: That would also explain the fireworks we see in the trailer. All these explosions are thrusting up from the ground. The explosions are coming up because the land itself is rising up. Reason Four: Note that the news coverage after the first rumbling in the city speculates that there might have been an earthquake. I suppose a real big monster might cause that kind of seismic activity - but an earthquake is more likely still if the island itself is the monster. Reason Five: A lot of speculation has circulated around one of the lines from the movie: "It's Alive." Why would that be such a significant line? Because of the novelty of the island itself being alive. Reason Six: Note than in the beginning of the teaser or the trailer, I'm not sure where it is, there's a piece of text on the screen, it says: "Multiple sighting of case designate 'Cloverfield' camera retrieved at incident site U.S. 447 area formerly known as Central Park". Now, I'll bet you anything that they picked up that video in the water. Because the island itself is gone, and the area indicated by the number 447 is where the island used to be. Again, I want to stress that no one owns an idea like this. All the same, I want to put my own flag in the ground before this movie opens and lay my own claim to what I think is a very cool concept. After all, that's one of the things the internet does so well - push back against the long tentacles of corporations. I'm psyched to see Cloverfield and I hope you'll get a chance to see my opera. And as always, enjoy New York City. Above text Copyright (C) by Norman Coady 2007

  • Dec. 21, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    BRINGINGSEXYBACK: LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE VERKLEPTING!

    by J-Dizzle

    Oi vey! That schpielmann is giving me the willies! How did you know I was jewish? Hey moisheh kapoyer, it isn't the Jewish Defense League, its the League of Defense for Jewry People! Jewish Defense League? The only thing worse than the Jewish Defense League is the People's Front of Jewish People, and don't forget the Jewish People's Popular Front for the Defense of Jewry People (stupid schplitters!). Any way BringingShlemielBack, its time you went back to sucking on a shmeckle. Peace be with you!

  • Dec. 22, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Yep. LIke I though. No one knows

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    After all the jokes, the rants the "you can find all about the movie on 10000000 sites online"... no one knows anything substantial or "spoiler" about this movie.

  • Dec. 22, 2007, 8:13 p.m. CST

    In The end.

    by jabbabelly

    I can't wait for this movie. Abrams said he wanted to create a "american" version of Godzilla. That and all the huge internet propaganda had better deliver.If not, I hope there is a cut out of JJ Abrams at COMIC CON next year to "kick in the balls" for the time wasted speculating when we could of been watching XENA episodes on DVD.

  • Dec. 23, 2007, 2:18 a.m. CST

    THIS THEORY WILL BLOW YOUR F***ING MIND!!!

    by Epsilon

    Guys ... no joke. I think maybe the monster is ... get ready for this ... A Lion. That's right. A fucking lion. Isn't that crazy as shit? Oh and get this, that new gadget that Apple has out ... the one called the iphone? Yeah, well guess what? Not only can you play your itunes downloads from its touch screen, its also ... wait for it ... a fucking phone! I can't wait till the day when I can watch that Cloverfield Lion on my iphone.

  • Dec. 24, 2007, 12:26 p.m. CST

    IT'S BARRY BONDS! AND HE READ THE MITCHELL REPORT!

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Dec. 24, 2007, 12:28 p.m. CST

    IT'S ROSIE O'DONNELL! I TOLD YOU SHE'S THAT BIG!!!

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Jan. 3, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST

    I THINK THIS WAS A JUST A REPEAT REPEAT WHERE IT FIRST TOOK PLAC

    by jamaul1985

    THIS IS ANOTHER GODZILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL..................................

  • Feb. 14, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    ???

    by orcus