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Herc’s Seen Tonight’s Final Episode Of JOURNEYMAN!!
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Journeyman 1.13 FAQ
What’s it called?
“Perfidia.”
What does NBC say?
Dan (Kevin McKidd) travels a few months into the past to discover a man named Evan (guest star Don McManus) who claims he too is a time traveler. Livia (Moon Bloodgood) travels to the present right before her wedding in the past is supposed to take place. Evan figures out how to prove to Dan that he is a traveler and Dan agrees to help reunite him with his past love. At home, Katie (Gretchen Egolf) panics when she returns to see blood on the floor and discovers Dan missing again. Meanwhile, Jack tries to question Elliot Langley about time travel. Brian Howe and Charles Henry Wyson also star.
Why “Perfidia”?
The 1939 Alberto Domínguez tune is a component of at least two pivotal scenes.
Do we learn why Langley acted so differently toward Dan during Monday’s penultimate episode?
We do.
Do we learn tonight whether or not Evan the “time traveler” is the real thing?
Yes.
What was Evan’s birthdate?
We don’t learn this week.
Do we finally meet present-day Livia?
No.
Is it Dan’s blood that Katie sees?
It is.
Does Dan mention daughter Carol Ann this week?
No, but Katie’s suspicious sister is still hanging around.
Is Jack Vasser’s hot doctor girlfriend hanging around as well?
Referenced but unseen tonight.
What else is NBC not telling us?
Dan learns tonight he's not as stuck as he thought he was. And it appears Elliot Langley of Livermore Labs doesn’t know everything!
How does it end, spoiler-boy?
“Katie.”
10 p.m. Wednesday. NBC.
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This blows.
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so I would like a giant statue head to fall on top of Zucker. Does that count as my Christmas wish?
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into my bedroom. I realize there would be an awkward moment or two with the wife, but I'm sure we could get past that.
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That NBC will see the error of their ways and return Journeyman to us next season.
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sadly. even if the strike lasts into the winter or early spring, and they need to bring back established shows like Journeyman, Chuck, Bionic Woman etc...won't all the actors be off on other projects?
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Dec 19, 2007 7:22:19 AM CST
I still like my giant statue head squashing idea better
by just pillow talk
No Zucker = No cancellation (one would hope)
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Lets us be done with the Journey man TB. Which only turns into a why isn't there a Reaper/Chuck/Flight 28 Down/Dexter/Yo Gabba Gabba TB! Seriously enough with Boringman.
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or a Chuck post?Or a Flight 28 Down post?Or a Dexter post?Thanks for mentioning that!
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Aren't there two episodes left to air? I needs me some Ray Wise awesomeness.
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Can I download it for iPod Touch somewhere?
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Now everyone go watch Life on Mars, which TV Guide calls "Journeyman done right."
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This show has been solid from the start and only kept getting better as it went on. The idiots who palmed it off as just another Quantum Leap without giving the show its due appreciation are as brainless and blind as the studio execs who cancelled it. Bionic Woman they put a fortune behind trying to keep afloat and exceptional shows as good as Journeyman has become gets judged by its viewing figures? Do these guys ever WATCH any of these shows themselves, or are they simply system analysts who can only communicate in the language of numbers? BojTrek, yesterdays episode was great, Dan leaves something behind in the past and the future technology changes dramatically!
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and let us lament on the passing of a superb series, instead of the crapfest ( apart from dexter) of shows you watch.
NBC execs, you have gained entry into the seventh level of hell for the demise of this show and your network.
This weeks epsiode was another superb show, god damm i'm gutted. if there is a higher power please let another network see the light and pick it up -
Is the final show on tonight?
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Via Michael Ausiello of TV Guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iBLZ_4rTuQ
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at the beginning. I still liked it just because the leaper was going back and forth from the past to his present life so they added the new wrinkle of missing time, his family dealing with it, etc...but then they add another layer with Livia and then Dr. Langely and they just keep layering and it becomes much more.
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"My name is Sam Tyler. I had an accident and I woke up in 1973. Am I mad? In a coma? Or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've woken up on a different planet. Now maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home..."
There is no way David E. Kelley will be able to recreate the awesomeness of DCI Gene Hunt. He's too much of a Jessie!
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She would be 84. Maybe I should look her up....
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...there are several episodes where Livia shows up on Dan's travels in the past to help where she brings a car. Dan asked her where she got the car in one episode. Livia replied that she borrowed it. An educated guess is that Old Livia is still alive, or at least, her 1948 husband is, sometime in Dan's present (or at least during his sojourns in the past) and that she's borrowing the car from herself or her husband. Mr Saxon, your best bet is torrents/newsgroups. I believe Sci-Fi has aired the Christmas Specials at the start of the new seasons when they start airing them six to nine months after they debuted on the BBC.
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Yup.
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Please elaborate. I think he's top-notch in this show, and though I've never seen Rome, people have raved about him in that as well.
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Just curious since you are filled with so much Christmas spirit (are your instructions in Spanish as well?)...LOL
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Minus Chuck, NBC isn't giving me a reason to watch anything new they put on. Heroes, which I loved the first season, stunk this season. Journeyman is a great show I happily watch each week and am very disappointed in NBC apparently dropping it. The Monday 10 o'clock hour on NBC is a death wish. I invested a few months last year on the Black Donnelly's and that was axed pretty quick. Whatever happened to changing the time you put a show on before you give up on it? I realize NBC pools all their money on ER and Deal or No Deal, but they really need to stop giving up on shows so soon before they do anything to better the ratings. Hey, we do have fresh Conan and Leno shows coming back on Jan 2nd though...woohoo(sarcastically said).
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I must admit, you killed me with that last response. That would be a great line for a talkshow host, no? "All I speak is the motherfucking truth."
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hosted by Samuel L. Jackson.
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Right now. They're two eps in. I find it more "Vanilla Sky" than "Journeyman" myself. Good show though.
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but LOM is recommended, (im in the uk, hardly watch uk tv, but that was something special.) LOM and journeyman are two different kettle of fish. as someone said b4, all they have in common is time travel. like csi and sledgehammer. motherfuckers. god i wish this strike continues and cripples nbc i really do. JEFF FUCKING ZUCKER DAMM YOU!
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im grasping at straws now
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I wish I could watch it. I'm sure the American version will suck.
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there's absolutely nothing on tv to shout about. 24, is turning into a turd like heroes, BSG last season ( yeah yeah loved teh ftl jump) was lacklustre.
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But Gladiators is coming. How fucktastically....lame.
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it lasted 2 seasons ( thats how long is was envisaged for) check them out. you really do have to start form the begining. as the first 20 minutes you'll figure out whther you love the show or hate it. there's always torrents
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http://www12.alluc.org/alluc/tv-shows.html?action=getviewcategory&category_uid=547
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dexter so far has ben going really well. i enjoyed brun notice for what it was. house this season has been excellent, truely brilliant. since im running out of quality programming i'm going to start n shows that i missed first tiem around, ive heard deadwood is good, so i'll give that a shot
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dexter so far has ben going really well. i enjoyed brun notice for what it was. house this season has been excellent, truely brilliant. since im running out of quality programming i'm going to start n shows that i missed first tiem around, ive heard deadwood is good, so i'll give that a shot
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http://www12.alluc.org/alluc/tv-shows.html?action=getviewcategory&category_uid=9672
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You gotta love Doakes...one of the best TV characters ever...cant believe they killed him...this is the best show on tv at the moment!!
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Killing Doakes took some balls..he added a lot to the show. I hope they add some new talent next season.
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http://tinyurl.com/yobrsz
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Thats why Dexter is consistently the best show on tv at the moment, because they do the unthinkable..from what I have been told series 1 and 2 have been based on the books...and a 3rd series would be totally new material that has nothing for it to be based on..still gutted about Doakes anyone who can swear that fluently is always good..I believe he is the only American who could say the word c*nt better than us Brits
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Just watched the first few minutes (at work), and I love the little kid in the alley "smash his face in" when the cop is chasing that dude from his house. I really wish these were on Netflix though.
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dead zone last season was absolute crap, with micheal piller gone, it just went into a tailspin. but what a kick in teh teeth for fans that the whole armgeddon storyline that was thought the whole series was not concluded. what a fucking joke!
honestly the 4400 fortold exactly what is happening to heroes, the mini series was excellent, then the pseudo mulder and sculler partnership came to teh forefront and it went absolute crap. they had such a great headstart and the story telling went down the fucking tubes. baby into adult wtf?!?!? not surprised about the 4400. and heroes which is essentially teh same is heading down the same route. FUCK YOU NBC! -
is going to have a new season with a different character..who i think will also go back to the 70's and will have a female lead...man that site is the single reason i am not as productive at work as i should be..lol
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first twenty minutes.. remember!
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I Love this show!
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They killed Walt (one of the best characters on the show) which opened the way for Johnny to play house with Sara. So we get a whole season of cutesy crap. They wanted to pull in more females and wound up turning away the rest of the male audience that was the back bone of the show. The last season was horribly painful.So the only show left on USA that is interesting is Burn Notice. Monk is way past stale and it's follow on show Psych is geared to down syndrome and serious head trauma viewers.
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Dec 19, 2007 11:19:00 AM CST
Mr_X...I'll even watch the first episode in its entirety
by just pillow talk
Yup, I'm that ambitious. And Journeyman is quite a lovable little show, especially when Moon shows her ta-ta's....
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and then gone...Some stupid network better pick this up! What the hell am I going to watch during winter? I wish football (American my fine friends from across the pond) was on every day during winter....
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As he's her fiancee'.
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Dec 19, 2007 11:51:09 AM CST
After Monday, I cannot believe they are cancelling this show . .
by skidmarkedundies
The writing is stellar, the consequences of time travel, the whole Langley twist at the end . . . this is SO MUCH BETTER than ANYTHING going on TV right now, or even at the beginning at the season.
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Park, Joanne
Senior Press Manager - NBC Entertainment Publicity (Project Assignment: “It’s a Wonderful Life” “The Singles Table” “Journeyman” “The Office”)
Phone: (818) 840-4579
Fax: (818) 840-4943
Email: joanne.park@nbcuni.com
Also...
Jeff Zucker c/o NBC
Re: Journeyman
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
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NBC Universal, Inc.
Attn: Keep Journeyman
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Dec 19, 2007 12:09:30 PM CST
Eric Balfour needs a big statue head to fall on him
by just pillow talk
Or a FLAMING LEG KICK.
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Final Episode Ever!! Is there any Hope???
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My boxes of Rice-A-Roni are on their way.
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the episode. Want to savour it as much as possible. Will see you all at 11:00.
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it's a decent show, but nothing to get worked up over. kill zucker, kill other talkbackers, lmao. someone needs to up the prozac.
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DAMM YOU JEFF ZUCKER!
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How the hell does inane stuff like Chuck and Life get renewed and an engaging show like Journeyman gets the boot? Also, the last string of episodes were all top notch.
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Filesharing is WAY too insecure. A usenet provider with long retention is the best entertainment value for your money. Even UK shows appear on usenet within 24 hours of airing.
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NBC seems happy to let JM go, especially with their CRAP reality shows going, as well as that full season order on Chuckie and ol' Medium starting up again. JM was just too over their heads, and apparently too intellectual for many talkbackers here- just remember folks quality shows like this are RARE- so hope you're loving The Biggest Loser and that Choir show cuz you're gonna get lots more from this network before you see much more intelligent fantasy or sci-fi. Gotta LUV it!! Finally folks, Life On Mars is a GREAT show, but FAR from "Journeyman done right"- that's like comparing Andromeda to Babylon 5- night and day folks, despite their simularities. I can't be anything but pissed off at the NBC execs for not giving JM the same opportunities it's given Friday Night Lights, or even Chuck (which probably chased off more Monday veiwers from anything intelligent later at night than helped). Morgan isn't even a third rate Sock (from Reaper) and I'm sure that Chuck's writers could never match the quality in plotting and dialog found in a single ep of JM- sad to watch when you have the 2 to compare to each other- again night and day. One positive light to the NBC execs was their deciding to chop the Heroes season off when they did- Hope their writers take the break to learn more about PROPER comic style plotting and not be SO redundant next year. Maybe they should go after a few comic writing vets (is that the same Gerry Conway writing for Law and Order that wrote for Marvel in the 70's?-- HIRE HIM!)and not folks currently writing (well, not "writing" per see- more "rehashing") current comics. Watch this net sink even farther before it remotely gets better. I'll be pateintly watching the news for some exec firings REALLY soon- not for their treratment of JM, as much as ALL of their "wonderful" programming choices. Hope their resume's are in order... With the strike on, what better time for them to stke out Friday or Saturday nights for choice reruns of shows they've already paid for, like Battlestar, JM, even Surface, Heroes (1st season) and even (gulp!)Chuck- with perhaps production commentary, or behind the scenes info on the shows (like BBC America does- stuff that can go into a collector's dvd collection), heck, they could run the revamped Treks from Paramount and probably make better numbers that what they're getting now, but NOPE- here comes the next season of The Biggest Loser!!! Well, really, the "biggest" losers are all of us folks looking for GOOD entertainment isn't it?
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interview. But Ali Larter is off the market; she's engaged, I heard yesterday. Cherry Hill, NJ representin'.
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Journeyman’s strength was how we saw the lead character return to the present to see what he’d done. We see what happened to this or that character as opposed to a hologram from the future saying, “Okay, the future is a nicer place now; time to quantum leap!” Yet the downside of this was how too much time in the present reduced the ability of the “past,” to create any needed nostalgia. His time in the past was too short to enjoy the premise of time travel. He just jumps back, says hello, tells a milquetoast to marry the girl he loves, and then he leaves. This is probably why the set decorators clearly didn’t bother to do anything to alter “San Francisco” in the past, even in the most subtle way. I remember an episode of Freaks & Geeks where I was fascinated by a little detail like a video game rack in the background, filled with original boxes of Atari 2600 classics. Even when Quantum Leap lacked the budget to add such detail, Sam would narrate an anecdote or two about each time period: what he liked about it, and in a sense, why he loves to time travel. That’s the sort of FUN that this series should’ve had. It didn’t…and it’s probably cancelled now.
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Hayden. Milo. You heard it here first. Even if it's the talk of TV without Pity's Heroes boards.
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Is called Ashes to Ashes. Gene Hunt is the main character, but there's a new female character who comes from 2008. First episode is supposed to air around February 2008.
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FAMMIT!?!? That's just wrong.
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DAMN YOU JEFF ZUCKER DENIS
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Deadwood, absolutey.
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The Rice-a-roni substitute was unexpected, but quite funny!
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Gotta love it.
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I WANT THIS SHOW TO STAY!!!
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This may be the last time I get to watch this show, just because some GOAT-FUCKING. SEWER-SNIFFING, CORN-IN-MY-SHIT NIBBLING, SELF-LOBOTOMIZED NBC COCK-SLOBBERERS COULDN'T ORDER A FULL FUCKING SEASON.
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FAMMIT!
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and I need more, MORE, MORE!!!
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muy muy stupido. incompetent. junkmunchers.
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Seriously. I'm now just fucking SICK that this may be all we get. Holy shit.
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how can they give me a satisfying conclusion in ten minutes. Fammit, I'm going to boycott Whoppers now!
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I was promised answers, damnit!!!
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That's already a given. And not watching Clash of the Choirs. Wow! This will be easy.
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'I wish I could talk about it.' GODFAMMIT!
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Great elevator scene!
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I guess a few questions were answered... ah well.
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I may just throw my television out the window.
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Great show. All around.
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although I am still pissed. Mr Saxon's Rice-a-Roni substitute is sounding beter and better the more I think about it...
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Pretty please?
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Why are they canceling(pardon me, not renewing) this?? Fuckin' bastards. I can't remeber the last time I really liked something on network television so much that I tuned in for every episode!
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Unlike Bionic Woman, I felt JM was really starting to get it's legs in recent weeks.
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Dan's Navy p-caot..cause if it worked for Firefly..why not Journeyman? Awesomness. Booooo! NBC MotherFammers. Hoooray! Bluecoats.
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Journeyman is great!...what are we gonna get in the timeslot instead? more choir bullshit?!?!? FFS NBC pull your head out of your ass and keep Journeyman goin.
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What do you think, he just kept leaping, or knowing that he and Katie would never have a normal life together, did he will himself to leap back and prevent their relationship to give her a better life? When he asked his son if he knew how much he loved him, kinda gave me that impression.
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...that was beautiful. Thank you Mr. Falls!
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and the humiliation didn't stop there.
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Just a fantastic episode, and it completely blows that this might be it. The stuff with Evan was gold, pure and simple, right from the get-go, alternating between hilarious and WTF in equal measure. Jack was awesome at the lecture, just great and totally in character. HUGE questions regarding the ability of people to somehow 'remember' the apparently overwritten past...I'm just sick. I think it would've been easier to take if they'd just phoned in the last few eps, but they didn't, and kudos to them for that.
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Sincerely. Great, great work.
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Well done Kevin Falls. Well Done indeed. NBC you are on notice, you get zero cancellations left for shows I like for a period of 1 year if you violate this I will be force to abandon watching your programs in favor of more successful networks.
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expressing my disappointment. I urge you to do the same!
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and fuck NBC in the ass for being such cock smoking cum chugging aids monkeys for cancelling it. From this moment forward I am NEVER EVER EVER EVER watching nbc ever again.
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FAMN YOU TO HELL
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Thought it was cool that everyone got to say their goodbyes, Dan "knew" what was going on, his wife accepting and agreeing to be his anchor, Livia saying goodbye, and in the end the "proof" to Kate that it wasn't all in Dan's head. Just great. So, unless the NBC execs want to start this over, on a better night, with a little more respect, then I say let it be. NBC still has all the eps on their site (for now) and Amazon has an open e-mailing list so folks can be notified when the dvd set is coming out, and quite frankly considering the network dolts in charge that is as much as we can hope for. Probably lucky that all the eps got aired in the first place. Everyone involved with the show should be VERY proud of their work, even if it did go unnoticed and misunderstood. This was a CLASSIC and VERY SMART show, even if it was only 13 episodes. Bravo!
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FUCK THIS IS/WAS A GOOD SHOW. i agree with the way devlinizer handled it. thanks to everyone involved with journeyman, it was a wonderfully entertaining 12 hours. i would love it to continue, but if i cant at least i enjoyed it while it lasted.
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was it 13 eps? i thought it was 12. okay well either way 12 or 13 entertaining hours.
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...I deliberately didn't watch the mid-atlantic early feed so I can enjoy it ucluttered by work and with Xiphos and the other PSTers.
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But I will miss it. One of the very few shows I took the time to watch live. And I know I said I would watch CSI Miami from now on as a Fuck You to NBC but I've thought about it and I really hate CSI Miami and my viewing habits aren't monitered anyway so it would be a futile gesture and the only person it would adversely affect is me by having to watch that dreck. So at 10pm Monday I will probably watch that night's previously recorded episode of Chuck or Heroes, sans commercials.I loved the line "I'm getting married in two hours and fifty years ago".
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I not prepared to turn this talkback into a wake. Call me hopelssly optimistic. I did send an email to NBC begging them not to cancel this show (I followed the only email info I had--provided in an above post. If anyone has any other relevant email addresses pass them along). I'm also going to go to Amazon and get on this DVD pre-order list. I encourage others to do the same.
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I wish I had your optimism. I feel like the more I wish for the shows return the more likely I'll be let down.
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Whether this was the last episode or just the capper to an excellent first half/first season, I too want to send out my thanks and appreciation to the folks who made this show what it is. Thanks Kevin Falls and the writing staff. Thanks to McKidd and all the other talented actors. Thanks to the directors, the production dept, the grips, et al. You guys make the others look like amateurs.
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I'm done with this piece of shit network. Canceling great shows like Journeyman rather than attempting to reschedule them (since it's on against both CSI AND Monday Night Football) shows exactly why you're coming in dead last, hopefully forever. Studio 60 and the Black Donnelly's didn't stand a chance. Nothing you put on in that timeslot stands a chance. Give up on the slot and stop dumping shows with potential. Losers.
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Great ending having her see the jump and the cool ripple effect. And finding out that he became a traveler right when that other one died was pretty sweet. Lets all go watch those retards singing in choirs now......DUMB ASS NETWORK CHEAP BASTARDS!!!!I guess it's shit over quality if it makes those assholes money!!! And how do those stupid ass shows make money anyway? Who's watching that choir shit???
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I had to check it out just to see....holy hell that is ridiculous horrible shit!!!! Bunch of dueschebags singing stupid old songs and dancing around like morons!!!! Wasting beautiful Maria Menoonnoouuss!!!
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Livia to Dan.. we won't see each other for a while..
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...you can tell by the shoes."
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This is such a great show, NBC. Please, pick it up for the second season. I promise to buy the DVDs. How could you possibly let a show as good as this slip out of your grasp? Give it another season. Give it a chance to find an audience. Keep Kevin McKidd around. The guy has talent. Don't let this show die. Now for some story commentary... I really really liked tonight's episode. I've been too lazy to make this comment before, but I've been thinking about the way the series arc should play out. My thinking was that Dan should keep going back, changing things, and coming home, only to find that everything changes ever so subtly every time he goes back. That everything changes, over time, to such an extent that he ends up being a stranger in his own life. The man who saves the world...for everyone but himself. See, the tragedy of Dan Vasser is that, unlike Doctor Sam Beckett, he actually gets to go home...but it doesn't matter, because home isn't exactly like he left it. That this is a home for a Dan that doesn't exist. Having his son replaced by a daughter, Caroline, was a wonderful glimpse into the kind of alternate time line mind-fuckery we could look forward to on the series. Tonight's episode featured the logical conclusion of that arc. It was about a man who changed things so much that he no longer recognized the world around him. I really wish we could see more of this series.
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at least it felt like a finale.
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...you do WANT people to watch your network... ...right?
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Kudos to cast and crew of Journeyman you did a great job. My only critique is that for a show like this, it took too long to establish the story for the short attention span people.. If the last 3 or four episodes were shown earlier you might have gotten a larger audience. As it is, if it had to end tonight, you ended it on a perfect note. "Katie."
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Reporter Dan Vasser never stopped leaping.
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Time travel is the hardest genre of Sci-fi to pull off. Journeyman did it better than any show that tried. I am incredibly disappointed to see it go... I honestly think this could have been a revolutionary show for Sci-fi if NBC had believed in it. I'll always wonder if it was the strike that did it in.
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What a great show. If it is coming to an end, that was as good as we could hope for under the present circumstances. I STILL THINK THE SUITS AT NBSEE'YA SHOULD BE GANG RAPED BY THE CLOVERFIELD CREATURES!!! SWELL UP AN' POP GUYS!!!
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...that "Katie" was especially toucing, in light of the other traveler's fate. My favorite show of the year(I refuse to say series, denial is a bitch).
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fuck it, i'm getting drunk tonight, fammit.
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For real, any way the show can come back would be great. Maybe the strike could help, if NBC decided to rerun the show it could maybe build up a bigger following. I don't know, I have a feeling that somehow this show is going to return one way or another...in some form or another.
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...I'm a bit pissed right about now.
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No sense at all...
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Its so sad that America (as per the ratings system that NBC cares about) can watch clash of the choirs in droves (5.0 share from zap2it) and journeyman right after gets a 3.1. Thats just inexcusable. WTF neilson families!?! Despite how good i and many other internet users think this show is. America apparently is shrugging its collective shoulders at it.
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I loved this episode and I love this show. I had already written a letter to NBC (via their website) asking to save the show. I am now going to write a letter thanking them for at least the half season, but shunning them on ending such a wonderful series. Everyone involved should be commended, from the show's creator to the writers and the incredible cast. I'm hesitant to single out one person in the cast, because everyone is so good, but Gretchen Egolf has a way of completely communicating everything in a scene in an instant with only the look in her eyes. I'm looking forward to owning the season on DVD and having a big marathon one weekend. To everyone involved: This show should be a badge of honor to you for the rest of your career. Wear it proudly. It is well deserved.
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FAMMMMMMMMMITTTTT!!FAMMIT!!FAMMIT!!FAMMIT!!FAMMIT!!FAMMIT!!FAMMIT!!Ahhhh. That's better. No it's not!FAMMIT!!FAMMIT!!FAMMIT!!OHHHH! HAMBURGERS!!
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Sad to see this one go . . .
Here, from Wiki:
"Perfidia (Spanish for "perfidy") is a popular Mexican song about love and betrayal written by Alberto Domínguez (1913–1975). Aside from the original Spanish, other renditions exist including English and instrumental versions. The English lyric is by Milton Leeds. The song was published in 1939 and became a hit for Xavier Cugat in 1940."
'Love and Betrayal' . . .how fitting -
per·fi·dy /ˈpɜrfɪdi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pur-fi-dee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -dies.
1. deliberate breach of faith or trust; faithlessness; treachery: perfidy that goes unpunished.
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Anytime she likes a show, it's doomed to cancellation. She came in late on this one, but quickly realized how great it is/was and now, it may be gone... Real shame. It was a show that just kept getting better. (In the event it WAS my wife's fault, she asked that I pass on her sincerest apologies to everyone.)
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...I looked over at Kurt Russell, and he was laughing pretty hard, so I guess it is okay.
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That is, when the writers' strike is over, which at this rate will be 2010. Anyway, the supporting cast on Journeyman was awful - there was no sense of ensemble, no personality to any of them -- and I think this is what really deep-sixed the show. Also, I've just realized that I don't LIKE McKidd playing an American -- his rhythm seems off. At any rate, I hope someone gives him a show worthy of his talents - Journeyman wasn't it, and this speedy cancelation is proof positive of this.
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It works on so many levels. It's almost like the JM producers were trying to say something. Something like... FUCK YOU!! N! B!! C!!! THANKS FOR STANDING BEHIND US!!! NOW PLEASE TAKE THAT KNIFE OUT OF OUR BACK!! PLEASE!!!
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still.
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If it comes back, great, if not, at least we got an awesome last episode. Everything that had Evan in it was excelent, the dance scene in particular. Then there's the talk with Landley(I really liked his answers) and the great final scenes with Katie & Dan. Congrats to everyone involved in the show(and even NBC for airing the last episodes) for delivering such a top-notch conclusion.
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Man, I just don't know where to start with this. I really wanted to love this show from the start. It took a little while, but I really warmed up to it, around the time that Elliot Langley (sp?) started to show up. I really loved his wife and I have started to enjoy the Brothers Vasser; now that Jack believes what is going on. I finally got my wife into it about 6 or 7 episodes ago and now she can't believe that it is over! That is really too bad, coming from a woman who hates Lost, Heroes, Chuck, Jericho, and just about every other show that I love.
---And the way that the show ended, with him sitting there, watching her sleep and waking her up as he 'travels.' What a classy way to end a show. I am saddened but very satisfied with how they ended it.
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I've kind of breezed through most of everyone's comments, and everyone has hit it on the head. The introduction of Evan was just great, and the questions Dan asked: did his death lead to Dan's travels? Elevator scene with Langley...great. Jack was great yet again...in the hall...and the private moment with Katie...the one that got away. Strabo, great commentary bud. You are completely right, they could really fuck with Dan's mind in future episodes. As Evan said, it only takes a "nudge".Oh, and fuck off AnnoyYou. Sorry, but you can't say anything bad about this show. Join the Darkside L.H.Puttgrass...give in to your anger. And Strike down Zucker!
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You know what's funny? My wife is the same way...this show just 'engages' people to watch it. While I sent a 'politically correct' email to them, for here I say to NBC: MAY YOU DIE A HORRIBLE AND PAINFUL DEATH BY A GIANT STATUE HEAD TOPPLING ON YOU.
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bloody utorrent. i'm going to savour this like a fine wine tonight. FUCK YOU NBC! FUCK YOU JEFF MOTHER ZUCKER
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Clear your mind of any ill thoughts towards ZuckerFucker until after completely watching the episode. Then resume the undying hate that he warrants...
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I kept eyeballing the clock, savoring every minute and pushing down the sadness that this was likely "it" for the show. Never EVER felt like that for any show. I am still grateful we got to see all the episodes, so I begrudgingly thank you NBC. (Jerks)
Kevin Falls and crew: Great fucking job guys. Wow. Just wow.
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Dec 20, 2007 7:23:35 AM CST
in no way related to Journeyman...but I thought it was funny
by just pillow talk
This is about twenty minutes from where I live...I will be on the lookout for shady clowns from now on...FAIRFIELD — Police had no trouble spotting the suspect wanted for recent vandalism on Reef Road — there wasn't anyone else running through the seaside neighborhood dressed like a clown.
Gary Heussler, 20, a student at Fairfield University, was charged with interfering with an officer and breach of peace. He was released after posting $500 bond and is scheduled to be arraigned Dec. 27 at Bridgeport Superior Court.
According to police, the shenanigans started when Jonathan Desautels, a Reef Road resident, heard pounding outside his house about 12:30 a.m. Sunday. When he looked out, he saw a man in a clown suit pounding on his Nissan sedan in the driveway.
Desautels shouted at the man and the clown replied with un-clown-like epithets and ran off.
Police broadcast a description of the suspect — big pink-and-black flowered dress, big-booted feet. Police Lt. Michael Walsh said Heussler, a Hamden resident, ran from the vandalized car to Bravo Restaurant on the Post Road.
"That's a considerable run, from Reef Road to Bravo's, especially in a clown suit," Walsh said.
Officer Mark Fracassini spotted Heussler on the Post Road and ordered him to stop, police said, but instead Heussler allegedly swore at the officer and continued running.
Officers eventually had to tackle Heussler to take him into custody, police said. They said he smelled of an alcoholic beverage. Police had no explanation why he was dressed as a clown. -
i thought that was brilliant. no idea why sci fi didnt pick that up and went with painkiller jane. agin more clueless execs.
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... (meaning abruptly cancel a show without giving it a chance) to "pull an NBC"? Of course Fox has cancelled shows after only one episode, at least NBC gave Journeyman half a season. Lastly, if they want to cancel shows, cancel Heroes... ain't no way that catastrof**k's gonna get revived... network interference, the loss of Bryan Fuller and Kring beings a dickhead has driven the stake into that mess.
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... (meaning abruptly cancel a show without giving it a chance) to "pull an NBC"? Of course Fox has cancelled shows after only one episode, at least NBC gave Journeyman half a season. Lastly, if they want to cancel shows, cancel Heroes... ain't no way that catastrof**k's gonna get revived... network interference, the loss of Bryan Fuller and Kring being a dickhead has driven the stake into that mess.
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Why does this show have to go now! It's really, really hitting its stride. At least we got some answers to some of the questions just in case the show does not come back.
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It had way more in common with "7 Days" than it ever had with Quantum Leap.
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You all have summed it up perfectly: one of the better shows I have ever seen. I really enjoyed it and have done my letter writing to NBC.
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Awesome episode last night. I REALLY hate to see this show go to cancellation land. A bad judgement call by NBC execs.
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For once a good show getting canceled managed to deliver some closure before being prematurely dumbed into oblivion. This was the best new show of the year by a long shot, given a better schedule time-slot it would have doubled its viewers at the very least. I can actuallu buy the DVD when it gets released and watch it over and over as a mini-series instead of a season as intended simply because of the intelligent way Kevin Falls produced the final episode. NBC have shown their awareness of their own product to be utterly non-existent and their decision making to be a billion levels of stupid! My highest praise to the excellent cast and crew for this show, I hope they all go on to better and more prosperous futures that don't involve that dumbass network NBC aka N-othing B-ut C-rap!
Moon Bloodgood please return to my screens asap, you sexy beast! XXX
Kevin McKidd - First Lucius Verneus and now Dan Vasser, YOU DA MAN and don't let anyone tell you different!
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Loved this show. So sorry to see it end. I really hope that there is some kind of future for Journeyman. Thank you NBC for 13 great episodes of television. Here's hoping that some one else can provide a lifeline, or that NBC has a change of heart.
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Just want to say I agree with everyone here that it was a great last episode, but too bad it had to be a last episode.
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Really was perfect for it's timeslot. It was great to have a show that wasn't about the hipness of being twenty something. No wacky sidekicks or forced weirdness. It was unfolding in an interesting way, very character driven.
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Thank you Kevin Falls and the cast of Journeyman. Rarely have I felt a pit in my stomach when a show goes black.
So, so, so good and I hope the show becomes a cult classic when the DVD comes out.
Real relationships, real characters, and the end was just perfect.
Also, thinking about Dan's final talk with Livia where he says "I feel like we're not going to be seeing each other for a while" was just PERFECT. As was the last 30 seconds. PERFECTION. Even the idea of the Journeymen dying out - GENIUS. I don't even want to speculate anymore more where this show could've gone, but I'll be imagining Dan journeying for the remainder of his life, with his wife waiting for him, his brother supporting him, and people's lives being changed for the better.
Bravo.
Also, not giving up hope.
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this was a rare case where I didn't really care for the show in the first couple of episodes, but over time, ALL the characters grew on me.
dan, livia, kate, jack... all of them.
I'm not a hater, and I like to watch heroes, but was the 3rd season to start with frakkin A-bomb dropping on all the characters other then elle and hiro, I wouldn't mind.
over here at JM, dan is cool as fuck, livia is so damn sweet, jack has turned from annoying to badass, and katie is probably the most understanding and supporting wife EVER!
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To say "at least we had closure" is very small comfort. I had invested my time every Monday night as well as my interest in this program...one of millions of people who watched...not enough millions of course. The writing was very good, the performances even better. Some wonderful OMG moments, too, including when Dan's son came in and saw him disappear. But still, at least Kevin Falls saw that with the writing on the wall about ratings (and the then looming Writers Guild strike) it would be a good opportunity to bring things to a perfectly constructed, if unwanted, conclusion. I still curse ABC for letting "Invasion" die without at least giving us a two hour conclusion movie to their cliffhanger season finale. At least networks use to give shows different chances...'Well, it didn't work here, let's try it over here', but now it's "It didn't work here, get rid of it!" The networks all need to go back and give more shows a chance, like NBC did with "Cheers!" and "Seinfeld" and "Friends". True enough that those were half-hour sitcoms that anyone could jump in on if they'd never seen it before, but look at "Quantum Leap": "Trapped in the past, Dr. Beckett finds himself leaping from life to life, putting things right that once went wrong and hoping each time that his next leap would be the leap home"...they told you the set-up each week, so anyone could join the adventure (I actually like that "Pushing Daisies" does it now in it's opening narration each week). Well, anyway...thank you Kevin Falls, the writers, the cast (especially Kevin McKidd), and yes to NBC too, for giving us at least 13 quality episodes of "Journeyman". So says the King.
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That probably was the single best "last" episode I've seen.
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I could see this show on USA Network especially now they axed the 4400 and the Dead Zone. Come on, give me an early Christmas present and pick up this show!
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Screw NBC.
Last nights Journeyman was sooooooo good. They wrapped it nicely if it is all over and yet left it open ended.
Best show of the season, better than Bionic Woman, Pushing Daisies, Cane, Life, Heroes, etc..
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NOT only did they cancel Journeyman, which I LOVE....but...if you were watching the last episode (Weds. Night) in the Boston/New Hampshire area, that damn choir show ran over by 12 minutes!!....so what do I hear when Journeyman starts????..."We now join Journeyman already in progress"....Thanks NBC and may you all die (well maybe not die...how about, "get gang raped and beaten")
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Wow. The last 10 minutes of this episode hit me harder than the M*A*S*H and Twin Peaks enders. I wish I had a wife like Katie. I did send multiple e-mails to NBC, but I don't think we have a chance with this one like we did with Jericho. And of the two, 'Journeyman' deserves to live more. But NBC is even more retarded than CBS, so this is toast. DAMN IT ! ! ! The only saving grace is that they did manage to leave the show in a good place. If there's a "Festivus Miracle" and the show comes back, the continuity will be in good shape.
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I wish you had given me proper warning...some things can't be unseen.
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I'm in NH...Channel 7? I was watching the HD feed and got the whole thing.
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Wow, thats too weird then. I was watching it on the HD feed too (channel 807). Funny thing is it seemed to only happen to me!!...I talked to a friend in Merrimack and he got the whole thing. Did yours start at 10pm...or did Choir run late? For me it was 10:12pm...I will never forget that time because i was screaming, "Its fuckin' 12 past ten and the fuckin' choir is still on!!...You have to be fuckin' kidding me!!..I can't beleive they are still fucking on!!!"......and I would swear they were literally stretching choir out...they were sloooooooowly interviewing the last choir...joking around....smirking at me...etc...etc (I would even swear that one of them flipped me off)
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What I love about this show is it has BALLS. Every consequence of the premise is explored. The people behave in a realistic way. They ask all the questions you would ask. It's one of the most tightly scripted and satisfying television shows I've ever seen. Compare this to the usual trash where the plot evolves on the premise that nobody says what's on their mind and consequences are ignored. It's like night and day.
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...to both this talkback and sending feedback to No Brains Corporation for not renewing JOURNEYMAN.
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Thanks for a great show. This comment is redeemable for one hand job.
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I'm still fucking pissed. N. B. C! (Spits on ground.) Fuckers!
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I would suggest that all those who enjoyed the show to pile over to NBC and keep watching it, whenever you can, from beginning to end, for as long as NBC keeps it on their site. Let them see there was a fanbase-PLUS rewatch the shows for all those great little touches. THEN, after watching an ep- THANK NBC for keeping it online and tell them how damned awful of a choice it was on their part to end the show. FINALLY, just on the Amazon e-mail list to be notified when the set is available so, perhaps, the production company and crew can get a little "thanks" from us by their residuals on the show. This was a RARE and GREAT show, so make sure your friends all know what they missed, or dissmissed. I can't wait for the dvd set myself, and I hope there are a few commentary tracks and interviews added as well. This show was too good to just stop at 13, but really, do you REALLY want sci-fi to pick this up? They'll have McKidd fighting aliens or dinosaurs in no time, I promise you. Sci-Fi never took Torchwood (BBCAmerica's highest rated show EVER) probably becuase it was too adult and over their heads, I have a feeling that if they took on JM they would treat it worse than NBC did (if such a thing was possible).
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And I keep thinking about. Everyone's final look, final words, everything. Thank little baby jesus I DVR'd it, becuase I have a feeling I'm going to be watching those last ten minutes over and over again, and keep chocking up, over and over again. The more I think about, the more I find it one of the more fufilling finales I've seen since ST: TNG (which is probably at the top, up there with TP).
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and do a FLAMING LEG KICK to Zucker's left nut? We'll save the right nut for one of his flying elbows.
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[b]Journeyman[/b] is over.
I love the show, I really genuinely do. Kevin McKidd and Gretchen Egolf are fantastic and the storytelling has been terrific.
However, the ratings are --in a nutshell -- disastrous.
Monday's episode registered a 4.4 Neilsen rating. It's 18-49's were worse.
Wednesday's episode registered a 4.6 household with a measly 1.7 18-49 demo. (Per Hollywood Reporter).
That's just fatal. I applaud the efforts of those who want to save [i]Journeyman[/i] and I would support any effort to get the show moved to SciFi, for example. But even I would cancel its NBC run with numbers that low.
These days, due to the internet and instant reactions, every time a great show is cancelled prematurley fans tend to rebel and act as if it is the end of their world. But the truth is that the television landscape has been a brutal, unforgiving place for-practically-ever. Fantastic shows like [b]Eastside/Westside[/b] (60's), [b]Executive Suite[/b] (70's), [b]Palmerstown USA[/b] (80's),[b] EZ Streets[/b] (90's), and [b]Profit[/b] (2000's) are a teeny sample of shows that should have lasted longer but didn't. The way that some fans carry on you'd think networks didn't start "punishing" them until the axing of [i]Wonderfalls[/i] and [i]Firefly[/i], although the facts, history and common sense tells us otherwise.
The bargain that you and I as viewers have made since commercial television began was that the networks would put on shows and depending on how many people watched on what night in what time time slot depending on the strength of the competition, the show would survive or the show would be cancelled and something else would take its place. There is no expressed "right" to have any show on the air, as some fans now like to think.
[i]Journeyman[/i] is a show, despite its passionate following, did not gain enough traction and in fact failed even to hold steady to enough households or 18-49's or any other measure that would keep it on the air.
I can understand the desire to save one's favorite shows, but a lot of the response we see here and elsewhere to a doomed show like [i]Journeyman[/i] amounts to little more than mass hissy fits among the faithful. 4-5 million viewers trending downward is guaranteed cancellation on broadcast prime tv and I think a whole lot of fans should be grateful that the show lasted through its 13 episode pre-order because otherwise it would have surely been ditched long ago.
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I do understand what you are saying DS9Sisko, but 'great' shows don't come along that often as you know, so it's just very frustrating to have one end prematurely.
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great last episode. if this is the end, i really loved how they tied it up, epecially with dan and katie.
the sci-fi channel should snatch this puppy up as fast as humanly possible and plant it right beside BSG in april. i wouldn't miss a second of it.
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not by a long shot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkzY343nKm0
Nice Journeyman clip. Someone want to post the last 5-10 minutes on You Tube (of the finale)? Pretty please.
Any yes, technically Journeyman SHOULD be cancelled, but look at FOX with AD - they at least gave it 3 seasons (granted more of a critical hit), but Journeyman COULD have garnered that praise. It was just starting to get noticed by critics in the last two episode. DS9, there's nothing wrong with bitching, or hoping for something good to happen even if there less than a 1 % chance of it hapenning. It's called hope, passion, and someone people just like standing up for things they like/ are going to miss. Stop raining on our parade - if we want to be sadists we can be sadists.
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STFU.
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You like it? Pretty emotion-free post. I realize Whedon didn't write it, and Dushku's not a guest, but still...
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That really is weird. Yeah, I flipped over to 807 at 10 and it was just starting. Bizarre.
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though, would her cans have suffered for that intelligence?
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because it's special effects budget is nil. That liquid ripple effect when Dan travels is neat but I don't think it's costing them a mil per episode or anything. The show is completely character driven and rarely has any special effects, and since Dan only seems to travel in his own lifespan there are no expensive sets and costumes. This show is a deal for Sci Fi because it's a sci fi show with a cult without the expense of a sci fi show.
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Apparently the only way to react to the end of a great series is to quote Nielsen's and say "I'd cancel it too". All other forms of appreciation are marked as hissy fits? You respect the show but not the folks who also love it? I really appreciate you coming along and giving us the talk, Dad, but I'm going to continue to bitch about the knuckleheads at NBC. I understand not being able to keep a low-performing show on the air. I'm not an idiot. But I also recognize that NBC has done nothing to really support this show. So, let the hissy fits rage on.
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...well he is.
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It is so great to see all of my thoughts and feelings are shared in this TB. I have never felt so saddened by the cancellation of a show. I too have a pit in my stomache and am very, very close to boycotting NBC. If they cancel FNL I will never forgive them. I say we boycott NBC during sweeps week! That'll give 'em the kick in the pocketbook they need. Damn fine show! Damn Fine!
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Dec 20, 2007 2:21:10 PM CST
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by zacdilone
We will now read from Matthew, Mark, Luke...and DUCK!
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Is it me, or did last night's scenes from the past look even greener than usual? I think they went WAY overboard on color styling those scenes -- pretty yucky. Anyway, a reasonably neat closure, given the circumstances.
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Now that you have purged yourselves of your prepubescent, little dicked, single pubic haired sissy fits aimed at me, I would surely like for you to explain in a logical and fact-filled way how anything I said about why Journeyman got cancelled is flawed or wrong. I await your reasoned and reasonable responses.....but I suspect WMD's in Iraq will be found sooner.
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Way cool. I dig the way the first night ends with the zoom into his retina and the last night ends with the zoom into hers. And he's in the same chair and stuff. Really nice. "I'll leave the light on" as a response to "I'll always come home." and so much emphasis on Katie's struggle versus Dan's in ep 1. Bravo, Falls & Co., for finishing what you started HOW you started it: thought provoking, character driven drama couched in very subtle sci fi. love it.
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I like JM and would have continued watching it. It seems to me, that whether you're talking Neilsons or political polling, nobody knows how to do it in the 21st century. Traditional techniques fail to grab a broad sample. But regardless of ratings, you have to sell your product before you can start relying on accurate feedback. If a good show isn't doing well, then the first response should be to figure out a way to sell it better, not just give up. But Hollywood types don't understand their product well enough to do this. It's really quite sad, seeing all that money left on the table. Not to mention that it was nice having stuff to watch on a Monday.
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Well, Journeyman's over and it went out with a bang. It essentially answered all of the series' questions and had a very satisfying conclusion. (that final shot of the wife seeing Dan Jump was very well done) Sure, we could have used a little more background, but all in all, it worked. Sometimes, less is more...
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I've registered with talkback only to post about my adoration with this show.
I think NBC had a quality production here, and I'm sad to see them make a decision that's causing so much grief among what appears to be a strong collective of passionate fans.
If I knew that boycotting NBC could make a difference, I would give it a try. But really, what else is there to watch? Reality TV is so mundane.
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shit. i came back home as quickly as i could, and watched the episode. thoughout i was thinking was a fucking brilliant ep, and the last minute. i kept on glancing at the clock wondering how long i had. and then tragedy, i had already read the spoiler that herc had added so i knew the last line. fuck. fuck fuck fuck fuck. what a brilliant episode. as one poster put on here, a brilliant ending on par with ST:TNG. there's so many stories left. it's just tragic.
TO THOSE INVOLVED IN CREATING THE SHOW WHO ARE WATCHING. We the fans got it. we really did. To cast and crew thank you for creating these 13 episodes. -
FUCK YOU!
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I'm going to repeat what Xiphos said...NBC pimped the fuckall out of Bionic Woman and did shit for Journeyman, it easily had the least amount of promos of any show this past fall on NBC.
So I can blame NBC for a couple of things...piss poor promotion and not sticking by what is obviously a quality show. So take your ratings and stuff them squarely up your ass. And furthermore, just STFU, nobody wants to hear it today.
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elliot langley and his research. for all we know, dan has visited him in the past, and thats why langley knows so much about time travel. what happens if dan is stuck for an extended period of time like liv was. crap. so many frikin story arcs here.
do you think the other time traveller died because his "reality" had now completely ceased to exist?
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I think they were doing something particularly clever with the way Dan experiences time vs. non-travelers experience time. Everybody else lives in a many-worlds scenario where changes in the past cause the future to change (or branch off). But Dan lives in a scenario where if something happens that would alter his time-line (like Evan surviving so he couldn't "take over" as a traveler at that time), Nature intervenes to correct it. Dan experiencing time differently in this way explains why he can remember the way things were in different time-lines and doesn't cause paradoxes with himself (like losing his motivation to go back in time because a person he saved didn't die). The internal logic of this show seems to make a lot of sense.
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The biggest unresolved Elliot Langley question is how was Langley able to call Dan on his cell phone while he was in the past? That is a HUGE question. It implies that Langley knows much more than he let on in that final conversation, that he has the ability to travel in time, or at least access to the technology that allows time travel.
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Just wanted to add my name to the list of enthusiastic fans of this gem of a show. I was on the fence after the pilot (but Livia popping up unexpectedly + the ending with the digging of the ring got me to watch the 2nd ep.) and watched the first 3 or 4 episode as “background noise” while working on my laptop. But by ep. 5 the laptop was in its case and my full attention was on the show. I convinced my wife to give it a shot and brought up her to speed and she was hooked by ep. 7. These last two episodes were great. Last night finale was superb. The concept of time traveling was handled beautifully and smartly. There were so many ideas to explore. So kudos to ALL involved. We’ll really really miss you. I blame NBC for not showing one iota of support towards this show.
Guess I’ll have now one more hour on Mondays to spend on the Xbox. Make that 2 ‘cause I’ve given up on Heroes after the crapfest that this 2nd “season” was.
Side note to Xiphos: When you talk about Jeff Zucker buying shows for NBC that he produces himself, I think you mean Ben Silverman. The guy who founded Reveille (The Office, Biggest Loser…) and is now co-chairman of NBC Entertainment and NBC Universal Television Studio. Not that it makes much a difference as both of them are douchebags for cancelling JM.
PS: I never post on this site. How do you do Paragraph Breaks?
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But that's just because everyone is FUCKING RETARTED FAMMIT! I'm watching the finale again tonight, and am going to pre-order the dvd's now. I keep thinking about this god damn show and keep getting a pit in my stomach about it, because the relationships were just so fucking well written. Dan and his wife were the most believable couple (given the circumstances) I have yet to see on television, and they only had 13 episodes. I'm really going to miss this show.
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got me a serious case of the bummers. Literally the first time a show has done this to me.
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they really CAN'T afford it. I think I read it's about 2-3 million. Just look at the shitty film quality Sci Fi shoots their shows on man! Even BSG shoots in Vancouver and on bad cameras, so they have to make everything really dark. Journeyman also has a massive music budget (which I would argue they don't need), and the fact that Fox makes the show doesn't help anything AT ALL. Shooting all on location in San Fran is also very expensive, and could not be relocated to Vancouver without really hurting the show.
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Mr. Jeff Zucker
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NBC Universal Television Group
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That's the answer I'd really want to have. Langley looked like he knew essentially nothing in this episode. But he did manage to call Dan _in_the_past a few episodes ago. Also, he was pretending to not know Dan in the other episode, but he has already gone twice to see him at his office!! Ridiculous!
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He might have been working for one of those malicious groups he was babbling about.
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4400 and Dead Zone are gone, I think Journeyman would thrive on USA. I read on another post it won't happen because Journeyman is not produced by NBC/Universal. I would've liked to see more alternate timeline episodes, i.e., Jack marrying Katie. Here's hoping Kevin Falls tries to shop the series to another network, if not it was great series finale with Katie finally seeing Dan warp out of time.
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I hope this show continues on.
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porting, and then put it on national t.v.?
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You ARE dead to me. No, really! Get the fuck away from me! I'm done with you!
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And I'm still pissed.
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Best episode of the sadly shortened run of this show. I can't believe people don't watch this but I really can't believe that people hate it so passionately.
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There is absolutely no denying that NBC has supported a number of low-rated shows that went on to great acclaim, higher ratings, and/or multiple awards like Friends, Law & Order, etc. But the first problem with your maggot infested logic is that those shows have been few and far between. For every Seinfeld, NBC cancelled Sonny Spoon, Ferris Beuller, The Fanelli Boys, Working It Out and Parenthood. For every Hill Street Blues, NBC ditched a Father Murphy, McClain's Law, and Lewis and Clark Show. For every Scrubs, NBC took an axe to a US: Undercover, Emeril and Three Sisters. Why aren't you outraged that those LOW RATED SHOWS were cancelled? Why are you not huffing and puffing your smegma breath over the injustice of it all? Those shows had THEIR fans, many of whom thought they were fantastic. The second problem with your Bush-like fact twisting is that today's competitive environment makes it harder than ever for a show of ANY kind -- good or bad -- on any network to break out no matter how much promotion it gets: witness Cane on CBS, the regrettable Bionic Woman on NBC, and the collossal failure of Drive on FOX and the near total collapse of an entire network schedule (MyNetworkTV). No matter how much NBC promoted Journeyman (and they could have done better), that would not have necessarily given the show a better shot at higher ratings. But please, don't let inconvenient truths get in the way of your tortured indignation. My point was that as much as Journeyman really deserved to be a hit, the numbers were not there to support it. Period. No show on BROADCAST NETWORK TV other than the CW can or will survive with 6.6, 5.7, 4.4, 4.6 Nielsen ratings trending DOWNWARD. Journeyman could have survived if its 18-49 demos were through the roof, but they were horribly bad (1.7 in the final episode). Journeyman might have made it if it had a significant upscale audience share earning incomes of $65,000+ like The West Wing did, and The Office & 30 Rock do now. But it had NONE of those things going for it and cancellation was inevitable and the handwriting has been on the wall for a long, long time.The Nielsen ratings system needs a complete overhaul: it is outdated and unrepresentative of millions of viewers. Advertisers bear as much responsibility for this madness, their rigidity in selling to only specific demographics contributing more to what lives or dies on air than mere ratings alone. But UNTIL that changes, it is what it is. Personally, I think Journeyman was a rare gem, being cut and polished into something special and it's not only our loss as fans, but NBC's as network to not find a way to keep this show on the air: new time slot, move to USA or SciFi, get the stars on every talk show imaginable, and on and on. Nonetheless, they did not. Kevin Falls accepted the inevitable and wrote great closure with room for Journeyman to live on in some form or fashion. But there should be some additional perspective to why the show is off the air, not singularly and solely to spite the fans. So keep on tilting at NBC's windmill, Xiphos. Or, when you are feeling better, let us know when your methadone program is done.
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FUCK OFF AND DIE. NO ONE BITCHED ABOUT EMERIL BECAUSE IT WAS EMERIL. PROMOTE YOUR SHOW AND DON'T PUT IT AT TEN WHEN IT'S A FAMILY FRIENDLY SHOW. Lets see how well American Gladiator does. Just like the XFL (hot, then flopped), I'm sure, you goon.
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I can't argue with stupidity. So I won't.
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and he attempted to go public with it, he'd end up being shot by the same guy who shot the FBI guy.
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that doesn't really make sense to me poly... let me know if I'm missing something.
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- what would happen if dan failed at his mission? did that ever happen in quatum leap. as in, what if he was supposed to save a life, and it just didnt happen? -why not have a first season episode where dan runs into himself from a few years in the future. he already knows he travels, so he wont freak too much. then have dan talk to himself, tell him he has to do something , then disappear. then during the second season (yeah, right..heh.) have the episode that explains why he was there.. that would be fun. and my idea to the fucking monkey boys at NBC.. you have no new programming, why not spend a little bit of your advertising dollars and quote the thousands of rapid fans about how much they love the show. (use the old 'start with a few good reviews on the screen then start to post thousands overlapping each other' trick) then tell people to set their dvrs (everone has tivo, or dvr, or a fucking vcr) and run a marathon to give the uninitated a chance to catch up. i mean, theres a fucking writers strike, use it to your advantage. then when the strike is over, start season 1.5 or season 2, or whatever. anyway, i'll go back to dreamland now.
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you're right. Livia's mission was to prepare Dan for what he was destined to do. When Dan accepted his role as a "journeyman" she stopped traveling, at least where Dan was her central mission.It's been nearly 24 hours since I've seen the episode and I'm still ruminating on it. The last 1/2 hour was as good as it gets. I wasn't expecting that.
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and add a question mark, not a period after my 'did that ever happen in quantum leap' question. then add me to group of jerks who post when they're drunk and wish there was an edit button.,
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I was going to get into this show based on how much praise all of you gave it, but then when I saw cancellation was likely, I waited. Is this show STILL worth watching, even though it has been cancelled? And is any sort of conclusive ending given here? Also, Bell most certainly is not with Peter Petrelli. No.
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I think this show will truly achieve a cult status once released on dvd. The internal consistency of the show treated time travel like we've never really seen it on tv before. Although there was closure with the last episode, there were so many unanswered questions about what was happening it'll keep people talking about it for a long time to come.
It's unfortunate that critics didn't get the first 6 episodes or so to judge the show over the longer story arc. The first three episodes are good when you go back and watch them after seeing later episodes, but at the time they just seemed like the pilot respun (all until the Langley cell phone call into the past). -
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Great show. I'm going to truly miss Journeyman. I would dearly love to see what would have happened after that last scene. Bummer
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My take on future story potential:
- The obvious one...at some point the show had to somehow show Jack and Kate together in the present. I don't think Kevin Falls created that wacky Vasser girlfriend to not go there. Especially, in light of the Dan's daughter time reality episode.
-The idea of memories crossing the different time realities Dan alters. I think the alternate time reality wife remembering how to dance in the last episode was a precursor to additional show mythos.
-Langley leaving a lot of important information out about his "organization". Langley's call to Dan in the past was very deliberate. Langley himself either knows more or has some some existential link to Dan or his family that has not been revealed.
-Learning the fate of Dan's father. This may have been the equivalent of the fate of Mulder's sister on the X-Files that would be a show component for multiple seasons. Was Dan's father a time traveler? Why did he never come back? Did he know that Dan was his son?
-The big one...whatever is manipulating the time travel is immune to its effects, or is it? Was Dan truly the last traveler (not counting Livia), would he meet anyone that exists outside of alterable time?
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I meant to say wacky Vasser girlfriend swap situation.
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there's got to be some NASA element that his Dan's father was involved with. Also, there's some group out there that must have used journeymen to their advantage in the past/ future / present. Woudl've been cool to delve into history as well, with the Mayas, Da Vinci, whatever.
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Anyone holding out hope that the show could somehow continue on a tighter budget...
Sliders took place in San Francisco but was shot in Vancouver for its first two seasons (returning again in its 4th and 5th). Footage of the Golden Gate bridge and the downtown skyline went a long way on that show.
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thanks neo, that sounds pretty interesting. seems like the obvious way to do it.. if you fail at your mission you would have to go back and try again. it is time travel after all.
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just....wow. This show is being dropped instead of Bionic Woman? This is the network that's going to give us American Gladiator??? Insane. On the other hand, maybe JM is just too good of a show to be on NBC. Screw the popularity, and give me quality, kinda like Windoze vs. Apple. C'mon Sci-Fi Channel, wake up!!!!!!! This would be tons better than Tin Man or (ugh) Flash Gordon.
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WOW!! That's great television!! All I can do after watching that ending is sit here, shake my head, and wipe the occasional tear.
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Seriously, you haven't been paying attention or chose to not do so. Basically it boils down to this: Journeyman was cancelled because of not just low ratings but hellaciously low ratings in every demographic measure. With those numbers, there was no way in it stood a chance. The fact that NBC has stuck with other low rated shows in the past is the RARE exception given that they made up for it in some way (higher income demos, great 18-49's) that, sadly, Journeyman did not. It's not a question of quality (which JM had in spades), but inevitability. There are only so many ways to say that. But perhaps you are right, I should "give it up." After all, when people are so blinded by their emotions that they willfully ignore the facts.
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State the obvious much? Do you also go around to kids parties and burst balloons? Do you go to funerals and say bad things about the deceased?
Look dude, we're in mourning here. Not only for Journeyman, but for the fact that quality shows, whether given a chance (even a minute one) or not don't have a chance. At least so it seems. So I'm going to agree with Nova and the others.
STFU!!
You may/do have a point, but there's a time for that...and it ain't the present.
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34900
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All hail Node32774, FAMMIT!!!
Node, you created a sensation!
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...that thread...
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You dishonor your show and character names. We simple state that good shows have died because of the almighty buck, lack of interest, whatever. Shows like this and others like Firefly, Space: Above and Beyond, etc., just deserve better. That includes Deep Space Nine. I knew DS9. You, my friend, are no DS9.
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...let me rephrase this, then. I understand your point about the ratings and the demos, believe me, I work in television, I don't need your myopic ass explaining shit to me.
What I don't understand, you fucking sack of shit, is your motivation. We're all fucking aware of WHY it's being cancelled you fucking graying cunt hair, it's just that nobody wants to her you fucking opinion on the matter. Really, is that too fucking hard to understand?
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With great power comes great responsibility... granted jr high level style sheet tagging is not much power... but in the wrong hands it can be quite annoying. This is probably one of those things that if you don't know how to do, or can't figure out for yourself, you probably should not be in possession of such knowledge. But it will be fun watching people try...
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I'd like to know how to do that.
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It's really not that hard once you understand how it works. CSS is basically assigning style attributes to various data characteristics. If you View Source, you can sorta figure out what's done on any particular post.
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Leave it at that, lol!
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I am a professional in the computer field... and the tv field. Seriously, evil magic... back away! lol!
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Don't give them ideas with absolute positioning! Pandora's box has been opened... shit...
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the evil computer wizard also enjoys large amounts of highly caffinated beverages to go with his sacrificial chicken, so if you have any Jolt, evil wizard will bless you greatly.
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(counting ceiling tiles all night long...)
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a few more posts and we can overtake the Hellboy talkback for the day... we have 6 minutes...
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evil wizard prefers Bawls, but Jolt will suffice.
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just saying.
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Some things just should not be explored, trust me! Style sheets are pretty much harmless... let's leave it there... lol
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along with many other overly caffinated items. Anyone remember Water Joe? Making coffee out of that was fun....
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ands attracted the legions of doom! :-p
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he could go back and fix it. (and the thread comes full circle, still on topic)
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Bpbpbpbpbr-roop! And co-ver! Duck! Bpbpbpbpbr-roop! And co-ver!
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but I digress...
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more of mildly screwing with. Seriously tho, I would abandon writing over banner ads, that interupts cash flow and leads to the legions of doom kicking ass. Stick to making your text look different, that might fly under the radar... might.
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Yes, Moon-bags were quite nice. But now with the hacking, there goes my spiffy comment about DS9. Oh well.....
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I have ducked and uncovered.
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Long time lurker (...years); decided to join just to add to the list of supporters for this superb show. It started off slow, but in hindsight that's exactly how it -SHOULD- have been, in the context of what Falls was apparently trying to do. The show became more engaging with each episode, not because of special effects or "over-the-top" violence, but because of the STORY... go figure. Unfortunately, this is why it was destined to fail.
That may sound cynical, but I just don't think a show of this high caliber would ever have had a chance. Falls produced a "Masterpiece Theatre" product for a "Deal or No Deal-minded" network. It just doesn't fit. I may be a bit naive, but I wish the NBC execs actually watched the show; if they had I find it hard to believe that they'd put it on at 10PM on Monday after Heroes. It would have faired better at 9PM on Wednesday, before Life. Maybe even paired with Medium.
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this talkback is #1 again...
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WHAT HAVE WE DONE?
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Many great shows have fallen because of a lack of attention span. Good Example is Heroes, everyone bitched that season 2 was 'too slow'. Granted there were a few issues, but the pacing was pretty much the same as season 1, the general audience just wanted to see things blow up every episode. There is little tolerance for setting up a good backstory and building anymore.
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GONE.
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I'm sure half the potential viewing audience can't actually perform the intellectual gymnastics needed to relate how making changes in the past can effect the future.
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then again I'm a cynic
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Anybody remember when you were a little kid and you got a crayon and started drawing on the wall? Remember that sinking feeling you had when you realized that the crayon marks would not come off? I think that's when I asked if I could go outside and play.
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Crayons melt with heat applied! :-)
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No evidence!!
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Grounded for life!!
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"um... ok?"
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Dec 21, 2007 1:05:40 AM CST
Well, I suppose we should say our goodbye to these for a while
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Hopefully we will see them again soon!
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I'm going to bed. Good night.
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Catvutt's earlier post made blood come out of my nose. (Brain hurt).
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Why not!
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...the thread that is. Just so every twentieth post or so is on topic, I have to say I'm really looking forward to the dvds. Gonna get all my friends hooked. Beginning of a cult phenom. Also, can't wait to rewatch the whole season from the beginning. There are so many little gems it there that I forget about until they're brought up in this TB.
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Sleep is great!
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Only this one is a bit more pissed off because we're not waiting for our show to come back next season. We know that it's not coming back. And we know the bullshit reasons that caused that to happen. We're pissed because we know that there's no country for good shows. If you know what I mean.
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There have been a few posts about unresolved story lines or potential stories. However, I feel that there was a major storm brewing that we'll never get to see.
I'm kinda fuzzy on the details, but remember the episode where Dan & Livia where at the key party ("... they like the Orientals")? In the later jump when he prevented the girl from getting in the pickup truck, who was the dude in the truck?
Remember, the guy took off when Dan interfered, then waited for the girl to choose between him and the hippies... as if he was EXPECTING her to choose to ride with him. When she chose the hippies, he even doubled back to get a good look at Dan! And that made it especially creepy (not to mention that he was in shadow, so we (nor Dan) never saw his face).
To me, this suggests that the guy knew IN ADVANCE that the girl was supposed to be with him, and was taken aback by Dan's interference. Evil time traveler? Was he the one screwing up the timeline (as Langley mentioned in the finale)? Was Kevin Falls setting up his own Sylar? I think so, and I think that it would have added even more urgency to the show, especially since "TimeSylar" (get it?;)) saw Dan's face.
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that was such a wonderful ending..although i do hope this gets picked up....having katie see him jump was a touching moment...it is something she wanted to see but never did......as for the schmo that said "why isn't there a Reaper/Chuck/Flight 28 Down/Dexter/Yo Gabba Gabba TB! Seriously enough with Boringman"
good reason .....they allllll suck , id trade all these shows for journeyman to be back on the air...and i never understood the love for the crapfest that chuck is..but those obsessed with moons tits kinda explains it...u watch for the blonde....right ? if there were ever a show directed right at u mindless dopes that watch the "shows" on mtv.....nbc gives u chuck... journeyman is far and above all those shows...and the ending proved it...i enjoyed bionic woman more than chuck...and not even for her sweet perky tits. although they are nice... -
Time for bed.
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That's what I'm talking about Brannigan! These are little things I forgot about and can't wait to see on the DVD.
To your theory--you could even tie that shadowy guy to the dwindling number of Journeyman that Langley mentioned. Hmmmm...
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Fuck You NBC!
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to fill up the bank accounts of nbc or not? is still the only way of saving tthe show is the writers strike to continue so new pilots dont get made? i should be over this by now but i'm fucking well not
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Tom Reagan said:
That's what I'm talking about Brannigan! These are little things I forgot about and can't wait to see on the DVD.
To your theory--you could even tie that shadowy guy to the dwindling number of Journeyman that Langley mentioned. Hmmmm... Gotta go to bed now.
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You're right, Langley DID say that! That could also suggest that TimeSylar is in some way responsible for Evan's death.
Dan had already begun to display little traces of his temper, but can you imagine the... "badassery" that would ensue if TimeSylar went after Katie's timeline? Dan would be packin' a 10 pack testosterone IV! Plus two!!!
Oh... nighty, night:D
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by Xiphos Dec 21st, 2007 02:26:21 AM
I'm not sure about the bad guy in the truck being a jumper. Now, I admit, I was thinking the same thing when I watched the show. After watching it again, I started to think that it wasn't the case.
Remember, the first change in the time line was for the girl to not get into the truck, she lived at that point. They needed a way to show the change.
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I think I see your point. I'll have to go back and watch the episode again (do you remember the name?).
I will note, however, that one thing we've learned from this series is that nothing is incidental. So far, everything that happens of note has some significance (even down to the toolbox). That's part of what made this show so great.
I think that the pickup doubling back had to be significant in that it would have serious implications for Dan down the road (no pun). But like I said, I'll have to watch the episode again.
Can someone else out there watch the episode, too? It would be cool to get more perspective on this...
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I must say good job to everyone, and that be some cool shit (I'm in the same boat with Xiphos) that you boys did. And I can't believe Orcus has posted this much to a current thread! Not since the earlier Indy 4 news. Tis a said day that Journeyman is done.
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Maybe DVD sales will bring back the show? Might be good for made for tv movies.
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I know that someone on this woderfully cool long-ass thread has mentioned this...but...
I LOVED the chemistry between the actors on this show. I loved the Gretchen Egolf and Kevin McKidd marriage. And I can't stop talking about how damn fucking cool brother Jack was becoming. "Inspector Vasser."
Question: If Dan can take his iPhone and Wallet and Clothes with him when he 'travels' (I also like the fact that they started to name it..."Travelling.") So if Dan carries all of these things with him and doesn't end up naked, can he bring his wife or grab his brother if he needs some back-up on a mission? Just make damn sure that you are around each other when the headache comes back again or you are both screwed. That would be a cool episode, leaving his brother back in 1989 and coming back for him several years later to bring him back to 2007. Man, this really sucks.... -
I understand the ideas of TV Movies, etc, but FUCK THAT! I want to sit down 23 or 24 times a year and enjoy an HOUR of JOURNEYMAN! A Bullshit 90-minute "We are sorry we fucked you" apology from NBC once every other year would get old. And I really don't think that McKidd would come back and do it. He isn’t Shia Saide LaBeouf, but he ain't Bill Bixby either (see boring Incredible Hulk mfTVm's).
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Dec 21, 2007 7:20:58 AM CST
Dazzler69 - I think this is best served as an on-going show
by just pillow talk
There are somethings that can't be made into movies, and I think this show is one of them. I just think each episode needs to build off of the preceding one, so I don't think a movie would work.Bill, if I were Dan, I think I would be terrified to bring anyone else along. The odds of leaving them behind seem pretty damn high.
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It was a great show, and got better every week. It was great while it lasted. We can only hope that another network will give it another shot. I fear SciFi channel might screw it up a bit, but USA might be good.
Thanks to all involved in making the show. My wife and I really enjoyed it. Best show of the season. In fact, it was really the only new show of the season that I looked forward to each week. Ahhh well. I thought the final show of the series was very fitting. We'll miss ya! -
Of great one season shows. Now and Again, Profit, Dark Skies, Threshold, and my personal favorite that still hurts to this day Space:Above and beyond. Really wasn't into it for the first few shows. Then my cousin told me to give it a chance and man I was hooked. Loved the final scene, Dan going to work.
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I liked that show too. I'm blaming Zucker on that one too because he's that big a douche. In fact, Middle East conflicts...Zucker's fault. How can you live with yourself?
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just pillow talk: Yes, he wouldn't do it on purpose, but what if...he couldn't get away; handcuffed, in a brawl, etc...that would be bad ass.
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I just finished watching the DVD release of Space: Above and Beyond. I was really sad for a day or so after the end, and the show ended 11 YEARS ago!!! Maybe it is just part of my psyche to feel sadness when a television show ends...no...Voyager, Enterprise, Buffy, Angel, Traveler, all shows that I watched and all shows that ended with a 'Meh...' in my book.
Also, if you watch the last episode of S:AaB, watch the first shot of the credits where it shows Glenn Morgan & James Wong (the Creators) and under their names is a great big "AMF"!!! I loved that! Fuck you FOX, we were a great show and you bastards suck! And they ran it!!! I was specifically watching the credits of Journeyman the other night (teeny-tiny with some other shit crammed over it) to see if they would do something like that. Oh, and by the way, TV EXECS, if you are going to cancel a show, at least let the fucking TRAILERS for the last episode run in peace, without adding some shit preview of some crap ass reality show over or under the damn thing.
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and there is no way that a lame-ass Hellboy talkback should eclipse this one yet.
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Or strung up by his balls. I think that would work too.It seems to me that Kevin Falls wouldn't do something like that, even though he got fucked over (the credits thing).
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Okay, i've only just watched the final episode. The reason for this is that (a) I had to download it (b) Once it was downloaded, I couldn't bring myself to watch it. However, I woke up at 6am today and it felt fitting to watch it when the world outside was silent and peaceful.I don't get emotional at a lot of stuff. Most drama doesn't really affect me on that level. The last time I remotely remember having a tear in my eye after watching something was "Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind" although I credit that more to the fact I had broken up with a girlfriend the day before I watched it.This episode of Journeyman hit all the right notes for me and, although I'm slightly ashamed to admit it, I had a tear in my eye when the end credits arrived.I found this to be a really amazing little show. I love my science fiction but usually I watch a science fiction show *just* for the science fiction elements. However, with Journeyman, I actually started to really enjoy the relationships between the characters. I initially believed that I'd find the other characters to be boring and would only be interested in the scenes where Dan was in the past. However, after the conclusion of the first episode ("I'll always come home"), I realised that wasn't going to be the case at all. Even though Jack was an asshole at times, I really wanted him to learn about Dan's problem and help him out. I thought I'd be rooting for Dan to get together with Livia but the more I got to know about Katie I realised that I liked the two together. A lesser show would have kept Dan's problem a secret from Katie and watched their marriage fall apart for the drama it caused. I liked that Journeyman went the other way. Katie found out about Dan's problem in the very first episode and we watched her support him despite the strain it caused.So yes, I shed a tear at that conclusion because it was one of the best written endings I've seen in quite a while. A lot of shows try to make you feel something for the characters and fail. Journeyman was different. I wanted Dan and Katie to stay together, and that final shot was perfect.I also initially expected Livia to come between Dan and Katie. Again, I was surprised by the intelligent writing at work here. They had a history but they didn't jump into bed with one another because they were three dimensional rather than paper thin characterisations.And so, to sum up then. I want to thank the writers of this show for thirteen magnificant hours of television. Guys, you hit a home run all the way through and I can't say that about a lot of shows. I'd like to thank all the actors for their great work. I can't pick out just one because you were all great. I've never seen "Rome" but I'll be buying the first season on DVD tonight to see more of McKidd. I hope he gets another show worthy of his talents. Gretchen Egolf was also wonderful. You really sold the character to me so thankyou. And thanks also to Moon Bloodgood and Reed Diamond for their work; I can't imagine anyone else in those roles now.A final thanks to Kevin Falls. I wish you all the luck in the world with your next project and, whatever it is, I'll be watching.And fuck you NBC. Fuck you for letting this show go because I actually enjoyed this show more than any other I've seen in a very long time.Sorry for the length of this post. And sorry for any errors. I can't be arsed to check it over.
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back in time like dan? say it aint so!
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Because I had to download all of the episodes, I now have them all on my laptop. I'm going to burn them onto a DVD so I can watch them all over again.
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Because you're still here and so you haven't been banned. Did they erase a lot of them?
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And that's exactly it: everyone expected sci-fi, they didn't expect an exceptional drama with characters who really acted like real people. They responded to situations, I think, in a very realistic manner. And it wasn't just overnight that Katie accepted Dan's travels, she really had to grapple with it to understand it. Jack's journey to understanding his brother was no less interesting and well-done.
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or maybe that timeline got erased? :-)
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35097It's all Zucker's fault.
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when I got home last night after a signing at 2 am. and had the exact same emotional punch. To be honest though, I think it was a PERFECT finale. I don't know too much, too little, and I can imagine Dan jumping the remainder of his life, and his stories can play out in my head (just like TNG, the sky's the limit). Another thing I realized is how much I like the character of Dan. Has anyone noticed what a moral guy he is? Yes, he had the gambling thing, but he's a great dad, a great husband, and has a fantastic moral compass, which makes him a great character to aspire to. He's so selfless, and it's something you see little of today with all these damn "edgy" characters.
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i'm so cut up by it all that im now mass posting everywhere
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Would love to stay and chat, but I have to see a man about some 5100 parts.
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was exactly what i would have said if i could actually write proper like
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and....POOF!....he's gone!Mass hissy fits lead to mass posting!!!!
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A reckoning is coming...
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Iraq, AIDS, Paris Hilton, Gabriel Gray (thank GOD he got banned forever).Just started watching FNL. Not quite into it yet though. I've downloaded five episodes and have only watched the pilot so I'll give it some time to grow on me.I wonder if I'd be into American Football (or just 'football' if you live in the U.S) if I'd be born in the U.S? Hmmm. If I was born in the U.S, I'd like to have been born in Texas. And I'd be a Sheriff.
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He was a very moral character. I loved the fact that, in the final episode, he is presented the chance to end it all and decides to keep going because it's his "calling". I'm going to miss Dan.
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Are "The Killers" big over in America? They're a Las Vegas band I believe and I'm sure I read that they weren't well received over in the States. Which is strange because us Brits love them.I'm just listening to their "Tranquilize" song featuring Lou Reed and it's one of my favourite songs this year.
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Because of that thing up there. It would be a shame to have no record of the outrage and sorrow expressed by JM fans after the final episode. :(
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Soup74 and NeoMyers: Throughout the Lee Harvey Oswald leap, Sam kept trying to change events in Oswald's life that would prevent him from killing JFK. In the meantime, residual Oswald kept creeping back into Sam's swiss-cheesed mind, making him do things like slap Oswald's wife Marina around. Towards the end of storyline, Ziggy leaps Oswald back into his own body and he completes the lone gunman killing of the President. Sam leaps into a nearby Secret Service agent who jumps on the back of JFK's convertable. At Parkland Hospital, when Sam is distraught that he couldn't save JFK, Al replies that he didn't fail because what he did do was save Jackie Kennedy, who in the original history had also been killed. Sam leaps out as the episode comes to an end. Man, I loved "Quantum Leap".
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Shame you didn't like Sam's Town because I actually preferred it to their first album. All a matter of taste I guess. Thanks for the info, bro!
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I've been a AICN lurker for years. I only signed up for the first time last year to post on the Lost TBs towards the end of the season. These Journeyman threads have been great--it's so cool to see how many newbies and lurkers this show has brought out. It's also amazing to see the overall goodwill on these threads (unless your name is Zucker or Silverman). I feel like I'm finally in a thread with grown-ups. Kind of like I felt I was finally watching a show for grown-ups. Alas.
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Dec 21, 2007 10:46:37 AM CST
Zucker is also responsible for ALL spelling mistakes
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in talkbacks. You're such a horsefucking drippy little whore Zucker.
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Just signed on for the first time since last night...you guys are having some fun, huh? Heee...Good work Journeyman fans! Gotta love it.
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their new single "don't shoot me santa" is great, and a hilarious video. Check it on youtube. Man, I wish we could all have a nice game of poker with Dan.
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fellow Journeyman watchers!I hope a giant Christmas topples over and lands on your fat head Zucker! Ho-ho-ho!!
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by Xiphos Dec 21st, 2007 03:25:26 AM
Another thought occured to me while writing this and that thought was this. I don't think they were going with a "time" killer. it's occurred to me that outside of the time travel angle they've kept things fairly grounded in reality. No alien tech or magic or anything outlandish like that.
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I have to agree, Xiphos. It seems unlikely that they would go with a "time killer". I don't think it would be as obvious as that. I used "TimeSylar" more as a symbolic name to represent an archetype.
As PVIII pointed out, Dan is a very moral guy, and Livia appears to be of high morals, as well. But what if there was a "traveller" that wasn't of such high morals? And what if he/she had been traveling for 20 or 30 years?
You'll notice that Dan's approach is always direct, no matter what the circumstance. But this isn't only due to Dan's inexperience; he usually jumps to situations that calls for him to take immediate action. Most of his jumps are -reactive-. Because TimeSylar's jumps would be causative, there's time to plan; you can set things in motion without leaving any footprint. One could get a real God complex under those circumstances.
"When you do things right, people won't realize that you've done anything at all".
That's what I meant about him/her going after Katie's timeline. Not necessarily armed with a knife, but a true understanding of "cause & affect". In terms of the possible future directions for the show, this does seem plausible to me.
But if not "TimeSylar", what direction do you think the story would have headed?
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Also, the title of the episode with the truck was "Winterland"
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by Xiphos Dec 21st, 2007 12:21:28 PM
think I was hoping that somewhere down the line Dan would turn into more like McKidds Character, Lucious Vorenus, from Rome, who oddly enough was a highly moral character and an extreme ass kicker. I'm juvinile, give a big hero and Nice cans on a good looking chick and that works for me.
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Then count me as a juvie, as well, Xiphos:) I totally saw Dan becoming more and more of an ass kicker. But who's ass would he kick? It couldn't be a random ass each week; he needs a target booty... just so he could have his "....KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!" moment- hehe:) See, we're totally on the same page.
Oh, and I'm with you on the Livia love, but I've developed a real soft spot for Katie (a twig of a woman) just like other Journeyfolk. She used to grate my buns with her Jack support. But I really dug how she slyly handled the money transfer when their house was being searched by the feds. With each episode she began to eclipse Livia. And with that finale, she really sealed the deal. "I'll leave a light on for you"... damn...
Gretchen Egolf (sp?) played the character very well... with one look she could convey so much. She may not get much love from the industry for her performance, but she's a wonderful actress.
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I think you can come out now L.H.Puttgrass, lol!
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watch the epsiodes again and add our comments to this thread so it never dies! // thank the lord for bitorrent
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remember that they are owned by General Electric. GE owns many many companies, many of which send out bulk mail with return envelope (says 'no postage needed if mailed in the US'). They only have to pay for it if it is mailed, and then they pay by weight. So, fill it with sand and a nice note that says "Save Journeyman, NBC Sucks". Doesn't cost you a thing.
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Dec 21, 2007 2:21:05 PM CST
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Dec 21, 2007 2:22:12 PM CST
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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For some reason I cannot get that fantastic theme tune out of my head today! I hope it does continue in some way but if I have to say goodbye at least those 13 eps can be revisited anytime.
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Was NBC president Brandon Tartikoff's favorite show, and was given a reprieve from cancellation more than once. Too bad the suits at NBC now are more concerned about style over substance.....
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by Mr_X Dec 21st, 2007 01:52:36 PM
watch the epsiodes again and add our comments to this thread so it never dies! // thank the lord for bitorrent
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Hey, I'd be up for that. Well, maybe not a full marathon (can't steal enough time), but I think it's a great idea to review the shows and discuss things we may have missed.
How about a variation: Journeyfolk agree to watch the show online at 9PM Wednesdays, once a week? I don't know if there would ever be enough members on this site who would participate (to have any impact on NBC servers), but it could be fun... and possibly have the added benefit of making a more powerful statement.
What do you all think?
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...but it should be mondays @ 10pm to honor that time slot and as a FUCK YOU to whatever replaces JM.
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granted, it will leave me depressed for the next 13 weeks, but it will be a nice little depression, which I will take out every time I pass by rockefeller yell "NBC/Universalzucker can suck my ball FAMMIT!" In terms of what direction I see Journeyman goin - clearly there was something going on with who he has to save. A thread, by whoever is prompting him to jump, and I definitely think there's someone, or something that's doing this to him - otherwise how would he jump everytime he's in danger (rv falling into the revine)? Also, I think the NASA plot could go deeper, and whatever sort of cadre that tries to control journeymen would be a great arc. Again, I would love to see how journeymen shaped time, and maybe see dan go way back (what up indiginous people of San Fran 900 ad).
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10pm Eastern! For the next 13 weeks?
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Just bump to the top of COAXIAL? That would be a small but "it's how you use it" gesture. Make sense? oh man, i'm sads.
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...in The Zone. Click on the link at the top of the page. You'll have to make a new account, but meh, takes 3 mins and at least it's a real forum, you can edit your mistakes.
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A Journeyman TB!? Much less a JM TB with 500+ posts!? Look over here, NBC.
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But I was only gone because I was at work. L.H. gotta eat. I still can't believe I managed to copy & paste the only code with that stupid positioning crap in it. Ack! Didn't notice the difference.
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Downloading a different JM episode every Monday @ 10pm ET/9pm CT is a neat way to thumb our noses at NBC. Especially if it bogs down their servers.
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Does NBC make money per download or do advertisers pay a flat rate for ads? I wouldn't want my nose thumbing to translate into money in NBC's fat pockets. Or GE's either.
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Is there anybody out there?
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Sure, we don't want to give NBC any money, BUT, it's the best way to support JM. As will buying the DVDs when they come out.
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...move the discussion of re-watching the eps to The Zone's JM thread in the Coaxial section.
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I always wondered whether or not Langley had actually called into the past. If we consider that the likelihood of Dan criss-crossing times that he's already visited, is it possible that in the future, he would journey back to an earlier Langley still working at NASA? Perhaps that's how "present" Langley knew about him? And if past Langley knew a future Dan was running around in his time, perhaps it was past Langley trying to call a different "version" time-jumping Dan, and accidentally getting a version who hadn't yet told Langley the truth.God I hope I didn't make that ridiculously confusing.
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Lets do it! hit nbc servers at the tieme journeyman was supposed to be on. now someone help your cousins across the pond, how do we get access to it as we're not in the region. If we all make a concerted effort to keep the show alive, we could make a difference!
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that everysite i go to that has done a revioew of this show, there are comments from fans begging this show to stay on the air. FUCKING STUPID NBC execs
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Fammit, she's hot!
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For leaving up all the goodies. He's probably supposed to delete all that stuff.
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Still playing with matches I see...
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You needed a few more ""s. I got the URL an seen for myself. Ahh the Moon...
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"and saw for myself." Where'd I learn to speak? Must've been the pic.
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FAMMIT. JM Mondays! Sans Christmas Eve, please.
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An aim-n-flame and hairspray is much more fun! yea, I need a couple more breaks, it fit right when I previewed it, but cut off a bit in here. I wish the height and width parameters worked, it'd be alot easier and wouldn't repeat
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What do you guys thing? Most tv games suck, but wouldn't it be cool to play the travlers, maybe even Jack as a cop. Heve to figure out clues at the newspaper office... I think that would be pretty damn sweet travelling to other times and putting together a huge puzzle from everyone's perspectives. maybe have the chance to really screw up a imeline then put it back together however ou wanted...
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Too bad there is no edit option here. It's a little chilly here, and the typing is a bit sloppy.
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by tailhook Dec 22nd, 2007 02:12:16 AM
It seems to me that the major plot of the story wouldn't have anything at all to do with other travellers.. but the balance of power shift between those who have it and those who want it. As per some TimeSylar... thats pretty far fetched in that it was made abundantly clear to Dan exactly what things could happen if he went off-mission.
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Hey, tailhook. I think you're on point about the balance of power. Until we found out that the FBI guy was rogue, I thought they'd immediately get into that arc. Certainly Langley eluded to the fact that he was being watched. But by whom?
Although I may have made a mistake in choosing the name "TimeSylar" because it conjures images of "lone wolf" running around scalping people, I think the archetype it not so far fetched within the context of the show. Here's why:
Remember, you recalled a critical theme from the show: "don't go off-mission". What exactly does it mean to go "off-missiion"? Obviously, there has to be a mission already in place. Who set this mission and why? We simply don't know. However,it's safe to assume that these "time lords" are using jumpers to repair a timeline that has been damaged. But who damaged the timeline and why? We simply don't know that, either. However, assuming that some other group is misaligning the timeline, said group would need jumpers as well... TimeSylar.
Further, who's to say that Dan is not working for the group that's doing the misaligning? That would be an interesting twist...
In any case, TimeSylar and a government power struggle are not mutually exclusive. They could be different arcs or even the same arc (e.g. TimeSylar working for the government), depending on the direction in which Kevin Falls would have taken the show.
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BTW.. as much as I love Journeyman.. the Livia side of the story doesn't make a lick of sense. It also didn't help matters that they didn't give Evan a future travelling time-twin.
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I don't understand what you mean about Livia's story. From what we've learned, her jumping may have been primarily to prepare Dan as a traveller, even down to finding a supportive wife (Katie). What part of her story doesn't make sense to you?
Future twin... wha...? Off the top of my head, the only purpose of a future traveler (in the context of timeline repair) is reconnaissance; you only need to know if your past changes had the desired affect. Unless... like in Livia's case, it becomes necessary to find someone in the past whose life may have minimal impact on the future to help assemble a desired --current-- timeframe (Dan's).
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Oh.. one last thing.. anyone got odds on Elliot Langley being Livia's son? The time is about right and Langley obviously isn't his real last name.
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I, too, thought that Langley might have some connection to Livia. Never guessed that he could possibly be her son, though. That's an interesting idea.
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by VegasRon Dec 21st, 2007 09:59:06 PM
...in The Zone. Click on the link at the top of the page. You'll have to make a new account, but meh, takes 3 mins and at least it's a real forum, you can edit your mistakes.
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Hey, VegasRon. I went to the Zone area as you suggested, but I don't really want to join. The downside is that the Zone is in its own.... zone. I like the idea of non (zone)-members being able to at least read the discussions. That's how I got involved: by reading from the main page, or viewing the top talbacks once inside of a talkback. Whenever I can, I'd like to contribute to other lurkers by posting to this thread. When it finally dies, I may disappear along with it...
If only the powers that be would make the Zone generally viewable...
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by PVIII Dec 22nd, 2007 05:26:46 PM
FAMMIT. JM Mondays! Sans Christmas Eve, please.
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I completely forgot about the holidays! New Year's Eve is a no-go, too. Well, can we all agree on Jan 7, 2008 @ 10PM EST, 7PM PST?
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Kevin Falls restarts the show in animation for adult swim. cheaper because, not alot of music needs to be used to establish time line. (although i liked it and wish it would stay) all actors can come back for voice over work and go on to other projects. The show could expand its limits with the ability to travel outside SF.
also travel further than ones own timeline. This I think was more of a money issue for the show. (already had the highest music budget...via interview with Falls).
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I always wondered whether or not Langley had actually called into the past. If we consider that the likelihood of Dan criss-crossing times that he's already visited, is it possible that in the future, he would journey back to an earlier Langley still working at NASA? Perhaps that's how "present" Langley knew about him? And if past Langley knew a future Dan was running around in his time, perhaps it was past Langley trying to call a different "version" time-jumping Dan, and accidentally getting a version who hadn't yet told Langley the truth.
God I hope I didn't make that ridiculously confusing.
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I'm a bit foggy on that episode. I thought that he explicitly called Dan in a time where they couldn't possibly have known each other. With that backdrop, his call to Dan "across time" would have to have been deliberate. I could be totally off-base, though; your idea does seem more likely that "pre-Langley" was calling... but why? I think this question would probably be best answered during our online TV "viewing party".
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by the_fin Dec 22nd, 2007 07:35:22 PM
Kevin Falls restarts the show in animation for adult swim. cheaper because, not alot of music needs to be used to establish time line. (although i liked it and wish it would stay) all actors can come back for voice over work and go on to other projects. The show could expand its limits with the ability to travel outside SF. also travel further than ones own timeline. This I think was more of a money issue for the show. (already had the highest music budget...via interview with Falls). if i had the money. i'd buy the show from fox and put it on adult swim. those 3.1 ratings would be a huge hit from them.
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At first, I couldn't picture it. But the more I thought about it, this seems like a interesting idea, the_fin. I can see it done along the lines of, say, DeathNote. Saturday nights on AS.
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In terms of who's doing the pulling - could it be genetic? In that case, Mr. Vasser would be a traveller - I don't think this was ever ruled out.
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Also, can we discuss what Langley meant by "the system is broken, braking down." Natural system? Genetic? Earth's own protecion system? Any ideas?
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by tailhook Dec 22nd, 2007 08:48:27 PM
Your first assumption is that there are 'time lords' dictating missions. What if their being pulled to a specific point was a natural correction of the space-time continuum? Don't just go assuming someone or something 'must' be in control of the jumping. Not that there isn't.. but don't just immediately jump to the conclusion that there is.
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Well, you don't have much choice but to make that assumption. To believe that natural laws would pull a person from one time to another, leaving him/her to "figure out" what needs to be done in order to correct an anomaly in the natural timeline... well let's just say that it's a stretch. With your natural laws theory, there wouldn't be any need for travelers; the timelines would self-correction... actually, for all intents and purposes, there wouldn't likely BE any anomalies. "... if a tree falls in the woods..."
No, the anomalies must be caused by unnatural means.
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By Livia's side of the story I mean the mechanics of her jumping to the future without automatically having changed the past. Its one thing to deal with Dan going back in time.. but with Livia going to the future she should be running into completely different futures where she 'disappeared' at the point she jumped. And having gone back.. whatever she did change gets rechanged automatically, due to the fact she hadn't gone missing. In order to believe it you have to simply run with the story. It could have made it simpler to say that for each jumper there is an opposite. That Livia is 'tied' to Dan and Dan to her. Since we've always seen them jump together.. her to the future.. him to the past... then you might be able to make the point that she is tied to his future. So his future and his past dictates the world she goes back to. The problem with that is that Evan wasn't given a twin(or an opposite). It was just him.
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NOW who's making assumptions:) Do we really know that she hadn't gone missing? It's possible that are are gaps, just like with Dan. Do we really know that Livia actually lives in the time to which she jumps? I don't remember all the details that she may have shared about her jumps, but so far, the earliest time that I remember her jumping to was the 70's. Also, as I mentioned in my previous post, it may be likely that her timeline has no real impact on the future.
Did I miss your point?
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2007? So, you're suggesting that we do a collective jump to Jan 7, 2007 to watch Journeyman? Righteous! ;)
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That would totally depend on that which tailhook and I have been debating (in essence) : who or what is "the system"?
If it really is that the continuum is the system, that's a whole area of discussion in which I'd be more of a bystander. If the system is an agreed upon order by a group or organization, there are all kinds of possibilities where we'd all be writing the story, ourselves; we haven't been given many clues. -
Perhaps they appear by Dan's present to be dwindling, which means as you go further into the past, they are increasing. Kind of like Picard in "All Good Things." Also, I've noticed that God spelled backwards is doG.
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You Glorious JOURNEYMAN Supportin' BASTARDS!!!!!
It's possbile..possilbe...FAMMIT! It's POSSIBLE I'm a little drunk. BUT GODFAMMIT, WE NEED MORE JOURNEYMAN!
You guys kick ass. Moon...marry me, Baby. Or at least let me pull your hair and make you moan like a walrus. Uh...well maybe not a walrus, but godFAMMIT I know what i mean. -
Hmmm, kinky.
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For more time travel fun, pick up BENDER'S BIG SCORE.
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by tailhook Dec 22nd, 2007 11:24:22 PM
I wouldn't say it is a stretch at all. They stated that there was a natural occurance that coincided with both Dan and Livia's births, the comet. Furthermore, one had to die(Evan) before the next(Dan) started jumping.
Last but not least.. Langley stated that these occurances have been going on for a long time. He specificially attributed advances in very early cultures to time travellers and spoke about them in terms of 'numbers dwindling' and that nobody knew why. All of this leads one to believe they are naturally occuring entities fixing natural problems that occur in the space-time continuum. They would get drawn to a rift like a mass to a planetary body via gravity. I'm not stating this is the correct answer.. but what I am stating is that there can be more than one explanation that does not involve active intervention from an unknown third-party.
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All that you've stated still does not point to a natural occurrence. In fact, within the context of the show (people-driven), it further confirms for me that it is not natural. Otherwise, it becomes Star Trek. It doesn't seem like the show would go in that direction.
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You are jumping to the easy answer without thinking it through. One of the best things I really dug about the finale was that they *didn't* make it some big government conspiracy and that these were naturally occuring entities.
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Actually, I believe as I do BECAUSE I thought it through. Case in point: when Dan was shot, he was whisked away back to the past just outside the home of his supposed killer... as a child. First, are you suggesting that the natural laws state that Dan should be protected? Where in nature do you find a parallel? Further, why does going off-mission -have- to yield negative results? It seems to me that the traveler is being punished for the purposes of learning a specific lesson: DON'T DO IT! Are they being punished by nature? I don't buy it.
As far as the ending, remember, Langley doesn't really know what or who is causing the jumps. And while I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, it felt obvious that it was rewritten to give as much closure as possible. The interjection of the comet does suggest that Dan and Livia are pre-destined to travel, but there is too much that is unexplained for me to make the leap that this is all a natural phenomenon. The comet may only suggest that they are... "pre-configured" to travel; meaning that others would not be compatible for the jump.
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Dan's gaps are different than Livia's gaps because Livia is jumping to a future. If she jumps to a future she must disappear from the past and the future she jumped to cannot in any way be the future that would have occured had she stayed. Furthermore, when she jumps back, a third future will occur in which she jumped back that will change everything in the future she just fixed. This is why the Livia half doesn't make a lick of sense given that they have the ability to change the flow of time. Every time she jumped she would uncontrollably alter time automatically and she could not realistically 'fix' anything.
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I think you're overcomplicating it. Why do you believe she must disappear from the timeline completely when she jumps? Remember, we've already seen that multiple Dans & Livias can co-exist in the same timeframe. Think of it this way: Imagine that you are editing an hour-long video in a NLE software package. You could (leaving all other parts intact) clip out a 1 minute chunk of the video at, say, 00:02:00:00 and overlay it at 00:30:00:00. Because you know for how long you need the gap to be, there is no problem... things resume as expected. Further, if Livia always jumps to a point after her timeline has ended (i.e. she dies), there are no real anomalies with her timeline; and, she has already proven that she knows better than to deliberately do anything to screw with the timeline (and if she did, as with Dan, it would likely be up to her to fix it). It seems to me that her story makes the most sense. It's Dan's story that has the potential to be the most problematic (i.e., changing the past).
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I think that dan should be working for a group of individuals from the distant future..1000 or 2000 years from the present..they could be using highly advanced mathamatical science to try and produce the perfect human future.They could be able to work out what the exact effects of moving him around would be which would enable them to protect him or themselves from being erased. they could even have a technology that protects there organisation from any time changes..this would probably mean they would have to be covert otherwise anyone not protected by this technology would not want to be erased from history. I was really chuffed to see those cool computer screens and thought wow hes finally made a cool tangible difference even if it was by accident. How cool if that had stayed and each week he did something that moved the present notably towards a perfect present..you could have him doing things on grander scales like having him stop presidential candidates being elected or peace initiatives or enviromental disasters like terrorists nuclear explosions occuring. they need to think bigger than just individual lives being changed for the better just my opinion
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that time travel can only occur to those individuals born at the time of the comet. now there are folks born every second. so there are plenty of people who can be the next chosen one. perhaps a death of a time traveler means that the baton is passsed if there is a suitable candidate nearby. if there isnt, its not passed on. which is why there are so few of them.
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whcih means a) this is a really great series that is thought provoking and b) nbc you are fucking idiots!
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you're both maybe right. Anyways, given what we know about Dan's travels -- when he goes into the past, he disappears from his present, the same should hold true for Livia. And you're right, Tail, Livia's disappearing and reappearing within her own timeline would have some effect on the future. Every time she jumps into the future, it's a future where she's been missing for decades, which might be different than one where she lived to a ripe old age and had children and whatnot. But it's easy to reconcile that mini-paradox... two options: Livia isn't destined to live to a ripe old age and have children or anything. She's destined to die in the past. Or at least, disappear for long enough stretches, that her former life effectively becomes negligible. Option 2: Aware of her role in shaping the future, as she ages in her normal timeline, she opts for a hermit-like life isolated from loved ones, so her footprint would be so slight, she wouldn't undue the future she's already been to... Or option 3 (i lied about just two), it doesn't really matter, because the people's who life she changes in the future are so far removed from her, she can live or die in the past, and it wouldn't change anything anyway. Anyways, good show, nice to see the discussion continuing long after the show has... (as for natural versus manipulated time travel, I happen to think more signs point to manipulation by someone/thing, simply because Dan & Livia are clearly traveling to such specific times to fix problems that are oftentimes artificially man-made, that it's far too organized to be something "naturally" occurring...)
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apparently FAMMIT! is already in UrbanDictionary.com, lol!
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I'm a comic book guy. And as much as I love Watchmen, I hate it equally. It brought the antihero to the forefront of the medium as well as realism with regard to the supernatural aspect of superheroes. It brought much while taking so much more away. Were it summed up in a single word -- Bittersweet.Journeyman and John From Cincinnati were two series that arrived this year, each canceled way before their time. Both were tender tales about heroes with a strong moral compass; well acted and well presented. People with rich character that urged one to be more like them. People spoke on these shows the way people speak. The relationships between the characters was far from shallow, they were quite deep and intertwined on many levels. Each show was a rare event given what we're given.I'll miss them both.
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you're both maybe right. Anyways, given what we know about Dan's travels -- when he goes into the past, he disappears from his present, the same should hold true for Livia. And you're right, Tail, Livia's disappearing and reappearing within her own timeline would have some effect on the future. Every time she jumps into the future, it's a future where she's been missing for decades, which might be different than one where she lived to a ripe old age and had children and whatnot.
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Well, that's only true if time is truly linear; if it is, then Livia would certainly have to have been missing from the timeline from the time she left the past and then reappeared in the future. However, the fact that they DO travel suggests that time is non-linear. And if time IS non-linear, it means that everything happens all at once, not linearly in the way that we perceive time.
One way to illustrate this is to imagine a 2 dimensional slice of the 3 dimensional world, like an infinitely thin plane intersecting 2 screws that are laid side-by-side. Now imagine that you slide that plane along the length of the screws. Where the plane intersects the screws, you would see two 2 dimensional "spiralesque" forms that appear to be spinning as the plane moves. These 2 forms may be able to perceive each other, and they may have some perception that they are spinning, but they would not be able to perceive that they are actually 2 dimensional slices of screws. To them, time is the 3rd dimension along the screws. To us, they're just screws because we can perceive the 3rd dimension.
Okay, that may be an oversimplification, but it illustrates the basic idea.
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... (as for natural versus manipulated time travel, I happen to think more signs point to manipulation by someone/thing, simply because Dan & Livia are clearly traveling to such specific times to fix problems that are oftentimes artificially man-made, that it's far too organized to be something "naturally" occurring...)
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Agreed. To suggest otherwise would imply that the continuum is itself sentience, self-aware, and intelligent. I'd love to be proven wrong on all counts, though... with a Journeyman full season order!:)
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"To suggest otherwise would imply that the continuum is itself sentience, self-aware, and intelligent."That's a hell of an idea there BrannigansLaw. Talk about something that could spin off in many very deep directions, nature of existance, God, etc. Unfortunately I can't see any possible way they could do that as a tv series, but it would make a fantastic Journeyman novel...
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But only good. It is not the paragon of quality as some have suggested. One its biggest failings is in the casting, especially the main character. His faux american accent sounds dodgy, and makes him lack credibility in my eyes. While the protaganist may not have been flat out horrible, its a juicy role which many actors could have made their own.
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Dan is a journalist. He gains exposure to many different kinds of people, and we don't know his life story. His experiences could be very different from Jack's. Hell, even I have a different accent from my siblings because of my exposure to different people. At the risk of taking a negative turn (I don't mean to), it would be rather closed-minded to suggest that any apparent accent diminishes the whole show.
If you're an American, then you know that there are many "accents" across the land. Further, we go to different lands and people from different lands do come here. With enough exposure to all these dialects and accents, even you, Nabster, could develop a bit of an accent.
We're global... get used to it;)
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by tailhook Dec 24th, 2007 01:00:33 AM
Thats exactly where I wanted you to go. You don't think they had Dan referring to this ability as a 'calling' for a reason?
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Waitaminnit, tailhook... you're not suggesting that you thought of the continuum as God before br1947 connected the dots that I laid out? It's a completely different thing to suggest that the continuum is naturally correcting itself than to say that the continuum is God. I think you would have mentioned that at the beginning:)
But let's suppose that the continuum is truly God. That being the case, then the continuum is non-linear as I'd mentioned. In fact, our entire timeLINE is but one timeFRAME to the continuum God. And this, of course, suggests that there are indeed an infinite number of parallel timelines.... or at least an inconceivably huge number of them. That's a whole other can 'o worms. Here's another one...
If the continuum is non-linear, then time is an illusion (much like it is for the 2D spirals in my above example) and we've completely mischaracterized God (highly likely, in any case). Further, if time is a dimensional God, then each dimension may be a god in its own right... and there would likely be an infinite number of dimensions and sub-dimensions... oops... this is Brannigan'sLaw closing the can now... :o
Anyway, I've enjoyed these discussions and will return after the Holiday.
Happy Holidays, Journeyfolk!
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Happy Holidays, JM faithful!!!
And fuck you haters =)
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hehehe.
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it gets better i would imagine?
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Please don't get this thread removed.
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And a Happy New Year, Fammit!
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I'm Gumby, fammit!
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...that was me.
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... and perhaps a Bic lighter? How very bold of you. (snif-snif)I think I smell gas.
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I guess we'll all be here at 10pm ET Jan. 7th, 2008 for the Journeyman download. Lookin' forward to it!
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Dec 25, 2007 5:13:16 AM CST
Happy Xmas fellow Journeyman appreciaters (& haters!)
by theycallmemrglass
Journeyman was the best series this year. Great mix of family drama with moral choices and funky sci fi elements. Loved the ending too which was a surprisingly satisfying closure. Happy xmas everyone
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FUCK YOU JEFF ZUCKER & NBC!. that is all.
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damn you NBC!
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mine was good, happt new year fellow tbers, and remember, don't stare at it, eat it!
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awwww shucks....
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Everyone will be back today once work starts up
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Here it is
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yet again
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is still up then this one can continue on into the future, right?
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!!!!!
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Who's with me!
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Pretty quiet here today
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Nice
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Keep them coming, maybe we could have Dan jumping into current shows on the tube, or affecting the status of current shows when he goes into the past.
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Dec 26, 2007 11:51:03 AM CST
Or how bout a talking pie who travels in time for some reason
by indyjonez100
Ron Howard you did it again!
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Dec 26, 2007 11:52:32 AM CST
Most of the pages of script are sketches of the time machine
by indyjonez100
Did I mention it had a talking pie?
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put's it past the DVDs talkback
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Discuss
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great work
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All the pretty colors and pictures have been smitten. Alas.
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"NONE SHALL PASS!!"
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Mr Saxon, it's from the episode when Homer finds the celebrity summer house out in the middle of the woods outside of Springfield. He had a movie idea and left a script lying around for Ron Howard to read. In it was a talking pie who time travels for some reason. He also included sketches of the time machine which was a lawn chair and a beach umbrella. Pretty good stuff.
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Alas.
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we've moved up pass you. But to give you credit you have been around longer than this Talkback.
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When was the Moon pic posted, which date and time? I remember seeing the rad letters flashing at the top of the talkback but not the Moon pic.
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No one seems to be around anymore
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to say FUCK YOU NBC AND JEFF ZUCKER!
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Twas very nice. And now it's gone. It's gone someplace where there's pretty colors and sunshine. sigh...
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Maybe it was the ghost of Don Knots! YEAH! With that crazy remote of his!! That's IT!! B&W Don Knots took the colors from us! Oooooooooh, Don Knots! You're a bad man.
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travel through time. My second time traveling Simpsons reference today.
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I'm about to go out and buy an Xbox 360, my question should I save some money and buy the Arcade bundle or spend the extra money and buy the Xbox 360 standard? I'm not sure I'm going to need all that GB worth of storage since I'm never going to go on Xbox live and only plan to play games on the system at home. What do you think? Save my money and buy the Arcade bundle or spend all my money on the standard Xbox 360, will it make a difference in game play?
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Were there colors? Or were the colors wished away to the cornfield by Don Knotts ghost?
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Anybody?
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Don't know what this has to do with Journey man but there are some games that take alot of memory plus you may decide to get Live one day.
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My next paragraph in the Journeyman TB will be green. GREEN. Alright, I know, that was chickenshit.
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Dec 26, 2007 10:33:14 PM CST
I did try to warn people about the danger of the 'matches'.
by l.h.puttgrass
Alas.
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What happened to Moon-y goodness?!?! Ah, well. It was fun while it lasted. And yeah, props to Herc for letting it go for a bit.
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Jan 7 2k8.
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Journeyman Ep 1 in Downloadarama! I'll be there. I was there last Monday and I'll be there this coming Monday too. And I'll see y'all on Jan. 7th.
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so say we all!
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Kevin McKidd will be the next Doctor - how d'ya like dem apples ?
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JOURNEYMAN!
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bloddy hell i miss my watching journeyman. and you're right gotilk. with absolutely nothing now on, maybe NBC will see the light, plug the series properly and put it in a decent timeslot. that or people will just start doing other things.. and you know what, tey'll relaise they actually have more time to do other things. tv is the opium of the masses, if folks star going cold turkery, they wont come back. MYself, i'm looking at getting a hold of deadwood as i've never watched it, and heard great things about it
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"The Time Traveling Talking Pie" Idea... brilliance! As long as it stars Kristin Chenoweth and Moon Bloodgood, I'm in! It'd be the most cleavage on tv since Baywatch, and far better quality!
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... can't thinks of a good 3rd... I'll toss out Kari Byron from Mythbusters, granted she's not the hotest woman on earth but there's just something about a woman that knows how to blow stuff up that rcoks... better redhead nominees to go with Kristin Chenoweth and Moon Bloodgood for the perfect neopolitan cleaveage mix?
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Christina Hendricks. Added browncoat lovin'.
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Gotta find a way to work Jewel Staite (aka "the only reason to watch SG: Atlantis) into it too... Do love so Saffron too...
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where did this dissappear to?
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...and i'm sure before 1.7.2k8....sooooooooo, like i mentioned before, we should move this discussion to The Zone. Link at the top of the page, new screenname generation required.
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Just add this page to your Favorites or your Bookmarks. Whatever browser you're using.
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Add it to your Favorites.
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Really.
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Add it in.
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Look at the top of the screen.
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Haven't you?
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...the main page. AND they can't find it!!
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You gonna be there Jan 7th?
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Still there?
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I meant "disappeared FROM the main page."
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Oh well, Beddy-By-Boze time.
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I'm not using the dreaded "colors" in my posts. How could I? If you "View Source" all the code is gone. Someone would have to have been silly enough to save the Notepad info from "View Source" while all that naughty stuff was still up (possibly several times) in order to still have a record of those codes. I certainly didn't do that. Nope. Not me. ;)
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nbc pull journeyman from viewing on line?
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Does anyone miss watching TV as yet? Are you filling up your time with sometime more satisfiying? If the strike continues, will journeyman get renewed?
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WE'VE BEEN EXPECTING YOU!
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withdrawal symptoms
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i'm listening to her solo version of time to say goodbye... and i can't say goodbye to journeyman. never!
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he looks very wierd and gangly
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excellent in rome. very badass
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considering his wife was shagging someone else
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this thread will live on in infamy...
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Oh ye of little faith!
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Wonky how? Wonky in what way? Did the site go screwy or something? Watcha' tawkin' 'bout, gotilk?
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You are not.
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Zucker
Little bastard is harder to find than you'd think... -
Rhymes with Fucker
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Just to be contrary. That's how I roll. Though I never say,"That's how I roll.". Never ever. And I'll download EP #1 next week also to start the #1 thru #13 weekly countdown. So I guess I'll NBSeeya.
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And I did it!
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Next week I'll do it again. Anybody else?
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We may experience several during our travels, yes?
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HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!!!
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It froze several times. If the NBC servers can't handle the few people who were watching Journeyman tonight, things are going to get very interesting next Monday. See y'all then.
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It was better when it was run by Time-Warner Cable. Now it's COMCASTIC!!!! Rhymes with spastic.
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One sold out to the other. Now my bills say Comcast Cable.
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Here's to a Great New Year!
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As the writers strike monster continues to eat movies and TV shows like a Tasmanian Devil on crack. I hope they settle up soon.
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1 shot Everclear
1 shot Jagermiester
1 shot Tequila
1 shot JD
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3. Topple giant statue head onto Zucker.
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perhaps I should be drinking your special green tea.
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Still waiting for Monday.
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I'm gonna watch some more Journeyman tonight. Just to catch the little things I might have missed in the background or where ever.
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wouldn't surprise me tho, must have picked it up somewhere along the line
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Since apparently no one else has. Enjoy:
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I was not going to stop watching it anyways, mind you, but that ending was killer.Fuck you NBC. FLAMING LEG KICK to Zucker.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Zucker
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Herc says the season ends March 20th. Read it and weep. Mind the spaces. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35192
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please
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and I'll be dining in.
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just saying.
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So is this the correct plan?
Watch Journeyman ep 1, 10pm EST on nbc.com?
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i'll be there.
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yep--
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A group of us have been spreading the word about the simultaneous streaming event. Should be on the main save journeyman sites, the nbc site and others.
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And since watching it on nbc is free, then people on the torrent sites should be in for it. :)
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Journeyman Episode #1 is coming tomorrow night in DOWNLOADARAMA!!! Yes, tomorrow night, The Journeyman Episode #1 thru #13 Weekly Countdown begins!!! Yes! Hahaha! YES!! YES!!! Muhahahaha!!!! MmmuuuuuuHahahaa!!! YYYEEESSSS!!!!!
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sorry.
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I remembered the download thing for tomorrow and popped back on. Sign in, folks.
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I would need to seem them all again.
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often, I might add.
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... or Gretchen. That Dan is a lucky guy.
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to get 'rescued' by Gretchen was pretty good....to ensure they got together.
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Ok info about this should be on most of the major sites. Us posting elves have been very busy.
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... The Hanged Man. When he realizes that his son has been replaced with a daughter because of the camera, dude! The look on Katie's face when she tells him, "Don't you change ANYTHING!". Great episode.
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How many are there? Maybe I should just Google(tm) them?
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Info is up on savejourneyman.net, nbc.com, imdb.com as well as other sites. ;) Should be on digg.com shortly.
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I'm watching The Hanged Man right now.
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That a really cool scene.
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Add 's after that. That + 's = That's.
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The talkback at least...
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'I'm Sick!! Of Lying!!' and Journeyman passing each other on the top ten.
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Maybe.
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Jan 06, 2008 11:37:39 PM CST
Farewell, 'I'm Sick!! Of Lying!!' you were a damn fine TB!
by l.h.puttgrass
28 posts and falling...
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Jan 06, 2008 11:42:58 PM CST
How in Hell did the total posts for 'I'm Sick!! Of Lying!!' clim
by l.h.puttgrass
... to 10034? They cut it off at 10K even and it said 10033 for some reason. Now it's 10034! The code for this site so weird and magical. Coded by pixies and gnomes it was.
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apparently you can post, it just doesn't show up
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And take THAT "CASHMERE MAFIA"! HA!
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Journeyman beats the Golden Globes!
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I just cranked it up a few notches. Weird. I'm posting to the cornfield! Now it's 30 and falling. ... or is it?
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Well, at least it'll be good to make it a regular schedule again for at least 13 mondays from now...
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FAMMIT!! FAAAAMMITTT!!!
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FAMMIT. FAMMIT. FAMMIT.
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giving an AICN history lesson in the Cashmere Mafia TB.... must pad Journeyman tb...
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woo hoo! 1,000 anyone?
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First back onto the talkback list next...front page of digg? Info about the streaming event is up on digg. Can we crack the front page?
Digg it (you need to join to make your digg count):
http://tinyurl.com/22uvx2
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good gotta keep it alive, how is it looking, regarding the future of this show, still not looking like it will return?
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Since it's originally a 20th century fox show, it's looking like nbc has no interest in keeping a fox show with low ratings. May be best if efforts were pointed at fox.
But who knows what will happen if journeyman fans won't shut up.
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We'll show'em on their web-site!! Heh heh.
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I'm hungry. And pizza sounds great for tonight's download. MORE JOURNEYMAN FAMMIT!
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pizzaa saaandwich...
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For the Great 'I'm Sick!! Of Lying!!' Talkback. ... ... It fell off the Top TB List for last time early this morning after it was locked up at 10,000 posts. RIP 'I'm Sick!! Of Lying!!'.
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They cut it off at 10,000. While it was still up on the Top TB's of the past 24 hours, if you posted to it the number would increment beyond 10K, but it wouldn't show up in the TB. #10,000 is still the last one.
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It's kinda like posting to the "cornfield".
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you got anything for that splitting headache?
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Im going to have one with american gladiators.
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bummer gotilk.
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we'll start by crashing their site tonite... all 15 of us.
where is everyone??
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Definitely this show will not go down without a fight.
digg the event if you haven't. Spread the word: http://tinyurl.com/22uvx2
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i stomp them with my shoes.
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forgive my interruption.
i screamed in horror.
as you were saying...
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What wonders will we perform tonight? I'm sitting here feeling like it's the begining of the show. The writers are still working. Nothing has been canceled yet. And I'm about to sit down and relax in front of tube to watch the first episode of an intriguing and interesting new show about a guy who spontaniously travels through time. Ahh, I feel so much better now.
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Let's do this.
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Sound Off, GODFAMMIT!
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jOURNEYMAN #1!!!! NOWWW!!!!!!!
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1st JUMP!
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LIVIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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I like skimpy black things.
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That hurt.
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Not Bryant.
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Heh heh.
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It's Livia!
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Oh Livia!!
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Wow.
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Feel the burn NBC!!
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Can it?
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Probably just us multi-tasking.
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Fuck.
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...but at work.
You can tell this is a pilot made a decent amount of time before the series. McKidd's accent is pretty strong and his haircut sucks, lol.
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My download sputtering and stopping! Eat it, NBC!!!
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... I would have stayed. AND MY DAY WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE GOTTEN BETTER!!!
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So come home, FAMMIT!
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Now I must get back to the LSU game!
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And probably somewhere in between.
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called into Jeff Zucker at the numbers someone posted on savejourneyman.net
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more people at nbc.com and savejourneyman.net were also streaming too. Plus the campaign just got some coverage on Forbes.com
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Watching tonight and will post soon. I take it the episode is a bit of a letdown from the responses...
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I search for 'Lucky Man Journeyman' on youtube. Great clip, and really shows why I think Journeyman is going to keep living on.
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got yer back gotilk
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nice to hear they've noticed the Journeyman fans sending the rice a roni to nbc!
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it's late..gotta work early.. see you tomorrow!
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Is it a story?
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whats up fellow journeymen?
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well? someone update me asap
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well? someone update me asap
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not watching any more new tv. only old series, so they screw me over. right now im on season 1 of farscape. cause i never saw it when it was on tv b4.
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as a torrent. available on mininova today!
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im still wounded when i see pictures of the journeyman crew. still devestated. damm you nbc! fuck you and your gladiators
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Jan 09, 2008 11:52:03 PM CST
I've been sitting here trying to think of something that ...
by l.h.puttgrass
I could say that would be positive or maybe uplifting or . . . something. But I can't. This is all I got right now. Fuck you, NBC. FUCK. YOU.
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See y'all Monday.
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ah yes. ep.2 "Friendly skies" will help. see you monday.
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Show you will miss most over the writers' strike hiatus? poll
Total votes so far: 451
Journeyman votes: 353
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$3,012 donated so far.
1,759 boxes of Rice-A-Roni shipped, weighing approximately 770 lbs.
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you keep coming back.
Love it.
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You've kept thsi thing going for nearly a month come next week. Are you trying to make another Aquaf@g? I'd avoid the Top Ten if so, cuz that's a sure way to have this TB get slashed, purged and a few accounts suspended. Orcus knows what I'm talkin' bout.
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fans telling NBC to fuck off for canceling one hell of a show. Drippy little whores.
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Jan 10, 2008 5:23:33 PM CST
Well considering there's not really alot to talk about because o
by br1947
I wouldn't call it a hijacking, we're just talking about the last thing that was really interesting until something new (cough,journeymangetsrenewd,cough) comes along.
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damn these headline cut offs and my inability be concise...
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people wandering around NBC with bowls of Rice-a-roni going "This stuff is ok but, what can we cancel to make them send us beer?"
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Mailed 12 boxes of rice a roni last night. Thought about the beer, but only if they renewed.
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Surprised this is still going. At least at the Lost talkback, we had an end date in sight. Until the 10000th post, the sky turned purple, and the portal closed! So you guys have a little over 9000 posts here left to enter before the whole thing shuts down. Best wishes - keep reaching for the stars!
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Check it out! Journeyman moved up on the Hey!Nielsen ratings! Now its #5
Sign up and "create opinion" to push it up even further!
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From savejourneyman.funurl.com
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So far a rumor for now. I saw it on nbc.com message board too. I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere else.
It was originally a 20th century fox show...Fox needs to take back Jman and give it the proper support it deserves.
Moonlight is decent - has the fans to vote #1 for it. I can't vote anything other than Jman.
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I have to work late tonight! FAMMIT!
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Streamin' away.
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Wonder if that was supposed to mean something?
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"We were going to have lots of sex."
"I'm not joking around here."
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how Diana in the '70s gets a big tray of food, and Katie gets a tiny pack of pretzels or peanuts tossed in her lap. Ahh, progress!
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Ha! I noticed that too. Great little detail.
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What a week I'm having!
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Love that part.
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Katie's delivery was priceless on that line. These episodes DO play better the second time around, right? It's not just me, is it?
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It wouldn't stop beeping. The battery had taken it's final charge, I guess. So off to Best Buy I went to get a new UPS. Of course, I can't stay focused in a Best Buy. I got a UPS, a PS3 game (Unreal Tournament 3), The new Bladerunner 5-disc Collection, Hellboy, and Curse of the Golden Flower. All on Blu-ray Disc. They had DVDs for 6.99 so I also got Clerks, The Rocketeer, and From Dusk to Dawn. Why not? Anyway, I got home just after 9pm CT. I still had to unplug everything, switch the UPSs, and then plug it all back in. Finished at 10pm CT. Now I'm watching Journeyman episode #2 with the west coast I guess? It keeps starting and stopping though...
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You may be onto something. Yeah.
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Fucking HATE that store for that reason. Go in for one thing, maybe 20-30 bucks, come out with a receipt that has triple digits on it. EVERY FUCKING TIME.
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Owww-uuchh!
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The playback starts for 3-4 seconds and then stops (probably buffering) for 10 seconds. Not conducive for comfortable viewing. At least I'm not still in the fucking ER. So, that's a comfort.
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S&Gs = Shits and Giggles. If you knew, no harm done. If not, well now you know.
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CatVutt has posted some. NYCub has too. So what happened to gotilk? The Moon's not up on your side of the planet, is it?
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"What's that? You walked here?" "Of course, you walked here! You didn't think that I supposin' that you rode your 4-wheeler ATV over here! DID YOU?!!" "Smug little bastard! Here ya go!" STAMP!!! squ-ish... "THERE! Now let's see ya walk back home! Ya cocky-cousin-to-a-cockroach!" "Oh look, a tumbleweed." "Damn it's quiet. I guess I shouldn't've shmooshed little Jiminy." "My bad."
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Anyway. I'm passing out.
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1. The DVD is not called "From Dusk To Dawn". It's called "From Dusk TILL Dawn". But you probably knew that. 2. The statement about the ER may lead some to think that I work in one. That would be incorrect. I was a 'guest' there Thursday morning for about 5 fucking hours. Which led to the medication shenanagins that screwed up most of my weekend.
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Listen to the Commentary on From Dusk Til Dawn. Pretty great.
What the hell happened at the ER?
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Well, I guess that's it then. "EVERYBODY GET IN YOUR BEDS! NOW! THAT'S IT! GET IN!! OKAY?! RIGHT THEN, LIGHTS OUT! LIGHTS-OUT!! EVERYBODY IN YOUR BEDS AN' LIGHTS-OUT!!! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR A PEEP ALL NIGHT!"
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American Gladiators gets renewed???
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I was trying to find good news to report but the bad news keep coming.
The boards have been reporting that because of the strike lingering on and on, studios have begun terminating writers and overall deals monday. Among the writers listed was Kevin Falls.
It don't look too good.
hollywoodreporter news here
http://tinyurl.com/2m36mc
Now that Mr. Falls is a free agent, he's able to take Jman to another studio. Not sure who'd be interested since nbc wasn't.
The writers strike is affecting everything though, so I don't think anyone is signing.
fraking reality show watching is the new norm. studios don't care now since people will watch american gladiators.
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Check out this Kevin Falls interview--He knew what was coming:
http://tinyurl.com/2f4w95
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let there be light! i read that 4 of the studios were canceling pilots for next season nbc included because of the writers strike. now if that happens doesnt journeyman get a shot at being renewed?
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it seems that the viewing public will wtach crpa cause tehre's nothing else to watch.
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never wtached it before, have downloaded all the seasons, and working my way through it. so far so good! any one else got some decent suggestions?
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i miss this show
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before we will hear anything. But
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H!N Scores:
1.Moonlight 1376
2.Blood Ties 1020
3.Journeyman 835
http://tinyurl.com/yskvh2
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Journeyman is #3 with an 835 score.
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Woke up. had coffee. got on heynielsen. opinioned. voted. Jman still #3. Not sure the negative votes are helping it or not. Not too many negatives on Jman though. But looks like the same losers going through all the votes to bring them down. What's up with blood ties #2? ive never heard of that show. Moonlight??? It's okay, but #1??? Actually, #3 for a show that's not coming back is pretty good I think.
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um. #3 for a show that hasn't been renewed yet is pretty good i think.
I need another cup of coffee.
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From nbc.com jman message board- LetsNotDumbDown:
So, the networks have decided to band together and play hardball with the writers...
Once the strike is over, they'll have to cut new deals with those same writers. It means that a given writer with shows in tow, will be available to any network... or free to do something else entirely. My guess is that they will promote the same shows they intended to promote before / during the strike. It's not like they have a limitless supply of fully- fleshed- out shows to promote.
The thing is, that if the actors have secured other jobs elsewhere, the obstacles to a show like JourneyMan, with it's already- defined cast, increase radically.
If we find out that any of the actors have other jobs, then that will basically be the end.
It's a lot like when SciFi canceled Dresden files (another "wtf were they thinking?" situation), then news that Paul Blackthorne had secured a position on a new show. That was the sure end of Dresden, because no one else could "pretend to be" Dresden. -
Looks like nothing will happen or change until the strike is resolved. On a slight upward note, its reported that directors union reached a deal with major film and tv studios today which may hopefully spur more talks between studios and writers.
And I'm guessing here.. the more demand for Journeyman we create, hopefully, the better the chances Kevin Falls has to get it back on tv somewhere.
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Don't give up Journeyman.
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Haven't seen it yet but hey if the shows fans brought it back from the dead, its worth a shot to watch one episode.. I'll try it out.
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see you diehards tommorrow.. or whenever I find good news somewhere...
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You're not the only Jman diehard here... you've been keeping the talkback going. With the writers strike ongoing, there's no news to report. But the more demand for the show keeps Jman in the forefront. That HAS to be good, right? We've dropped a little on heynielsen.com, so everyone post some love for Jman on there. See you later.
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I put it in my IE Favorites and my Firefox Bookmarks.
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I've had the worst luck getting home by 10 pm ET though...
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I'm going to write a letter to Kevin Falls to make sure your name comes up in the show somewhere gotilk.
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J-man back in the top TBs. Let me help a little.
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J-man back in the top TBs. Oops, I said that already.
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HeyNielsen.com
Jman is gaining on #2 in high scores.
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How come so many good shows get cancelled in their first season, while tripe continues indefinitely (usually on CBS or ABC). I'm still surprised that Arrested Development held on for 3 seasons.
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maybe because of "MAGIC!!!"
Arrested D was given more of a chance.
Note, not an NBC show. NBC are tripe specialists... on occasion serving prime rib on Mondays especially at 10pm. But America likes tripe. Especially nielsen families. People who DVR'ed or Tivo'ed Journeyman weren't counted.
So NBC stopped serving prime rib.
But tripe watching is counted. It's popular and easy and cheap to produce. That's why I'm going to heynielsen.com to show them idiots that I want my prime rib. Journeyman needs to stay. If it takes that extra effort to get online, create an opinion and "strongly agree" vote on other opinions, then I'll do it. -
well done for putting this back on the top slot!
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i have to keep reinforcing to them that it gets better after the first couple of eps
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Jan 20, 2008 4:12:21 PM CST
the networks should do a series called "shows that never made it
by mr_x
they could air pilots they never picked up.. it'd be a whole new series!
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pretty goodish
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Jan 20, 2008 4:14:13 PM CST
so is tehre a possibilty that juorneyman makes it back next year
by mr_x
if the strike continues will amreica continue to watch gladiators?
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and keep it going til teh start of teh new season.....unfortunatly I aint seen journeyman but heard nothing but good reports..
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and the hurt my neck doing a double take when I saw Journeyman
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"The Angry Viewer" Channel. Run Firefly, Farscape, Journeyman, Crusade and all the other shows that gotten the shaft without a decent shot. Have an original late night unedited talkshow called "Talkback", letting viewers rant and pose questions to show producers. Everytime a good show dies, they invite the writers and producers on to at least wrap the story up. Hosted by Herc?
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I'm still pissed about Crusade! Fuck TNT for cancelling it before it even aired!!! At least NBC aired Journeyman before giving it the shaft....
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there are alot of shows I'm still pissed about to this day. Earth 2, Space: Above and Beyond, The Tick, Lone Gunmen...I may have issues with holding grudges... lol.
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Am I the ONLY person still pissed about this one??
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"Game Three" tomorrow at 10!
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#3!!!
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Nice going getting us back up there! Episode Three tonight! More Journeyman, FAMMIT!
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Er...I guess later today, actually...But I'm crashing now. You're a trooper, Gotik!
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They've been sitting on the DVR for months...so sad to see a show really hit its stride only to be denied the chance to continue. The end of scripted drama is near, evidenced when a solid program like Journeyman is removed in favor of weaker shows (read: Bionic Woman).
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Thanks gotlik
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I'd see that movie.
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Great episode.
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http://tinyurl.com/2yxf9o
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Enjoy Journeyman tonight.
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"Bloodgood & Chocolate" sounds much better!
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Evenin', folks!
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I'm here.
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Almost there.
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Working on it.
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Let those ratings people know they were wrong.
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EP #3!
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And we're off!
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step by step... Kinda slow, isn't it?
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Are specifically designed to keep Dan from having sex...cuz that seems to happen quite a bit.
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Wheeeeeee!!
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He never jumps to the same day. Famous last words.
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Okay, now it's running good.
Famous last words.
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15 minutes into the show.
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Start. Stop. Start. Stop. Start, stop. Start. STOP. Sssstttarp! Start. Stop. Star... Stop. *Ughh. Gawd.*
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21 minutes into the show. Jeez...
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jittery.
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Again, a little with the jitters now and then, but relatively smooth overall. Solid episode, not my fave, but good. A little light on the wittier dialog that I associate with this show.
I was actually living in the Central Valley of CA during the SF quake. Working at a Video Store, actually, waiting for the WS to start. Suddenly the feed cuts out. Then, a few minutes later, I'm feeling queasy, and the shelves start rocking back and forth. We were a good 2 and 1/2 hours south of SF, but the damned valley is on so much sediment it's like a bowl of Jell-O. And then, of course, we did nothing but watch the broadcasts the rest of the night. I distinctly remember Channel 2 broadcasting from their roof at one point, and then all watching together as a chopper panned that section of 880 (It was 880 right?) that had collapsed on the lower level and realizing, at the same time as the announcers, what we were actually looking at...that so many cars must have been crushed beneath. So bizarre. -
WwwhhhiiIIIIIIIIIiiyyyyy!!! Why! Why! Why! Whhhhyy!!! shit.
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I hate earthquakes.
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The earthquake! 34:50 in.
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Looking forward to next week!
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I'm done!
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That had to be painful, LH.
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what an unbelievable ep.
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Don't know why it did that. Oh well.
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stuttering servers mean many, many people are watching? ...or it's just that time of night that WoW and porn downloads hit their peak... let's hope for the many people watching
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That's a wild story. Good to hear you made it through!
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Jan 21, 2008 11:34:38 PM CST
I remember the earthquake. But I was near South Korea.
by l.h.puttgrass
In '89 I was in the Navy and stationed in Alameda at the Naval Air Station. I was on the USS Carl Vinson right next to my dad's old ship the USS Enterprise. When the quake hit, we were in the middle of a two month cruise to South Korea. Everyone was worried about the people back home. Moral onboard took a gut punch. The bridge colapses were the worst. The 880 was the main route out of Alameda for commuters going to San Fran or the north bay. Alot of guys had wives with jobs in SF. The quake hit right at rush hour! There were some onboard who lost family members or friends. Some of them were flown home because we still had a month left to go on our cruise. We all felt pretty useless and sorry puttering around on the wrong side of the Pacific. Nothing to do but get on each other's nerves and worry about home. It was very long month.
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I thought that there was more Journeyman...... only to see you guys reviving a dead thread..... cruel, too frakking cruel.
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Keep it going!
Once JMan fans stop the effort, it's dead. Gotilk's been fanning the fire and I'm really grateful. I just wish there were more news right now.
Since there's nothing else on tv and the writers strike is still ongoing...
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I was a Fire Controlman. Which of course, didn't mean I put out fires. I started them. Usually in the air. Missile Command in real life. Fun shit.
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Fammit!! Look!!! -3% move!? Where are you guys?
We can overtake #2! HeyNielsen.com was created by the Nielsen goofs. If Journeyman is on top, how stupid is it that it's not renewed? Do it!!!
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Good morning, got to go to work, but I'll be back later though. Moonlight and Bloodties have their diehards too. Dan Vasser can beat vampires. We just need more votes. L.H.Puttgrass-missile command and navy-much respect for you. Keep the Jman TB alive!
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Nice job man!
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Keep the dream alive!
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My company is sending me to England (Somerton,Somerset). I'll be there two weeks in March. Never been there before. Any advice? Tips? Opinions?
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heath ledger. RIP.
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It's been going since the last episode, had a few hiccups on the holidays but has generally remained alive, just flying under the radar...
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I'm gonna post a few now in solidarity. Keep fighting for Journeyman. This show is so worth it. We're number two on Hey Nielson and hopefully rising!
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A talented actor lost way too young.
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Here's the news about it:
http://tinyurl.com/2s4owp
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The Jericho campaign took time to succeed. Journeyman lives! Save Journeyman.
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If you can, go see Stonehenge, it's really worth it in person.
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Somerton,Somerset. Southwestern UK.
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A friend told me to avoid gypsies in the Underground-if it goes to somerset that is...and try the fish and chips. The Yanks have nothing in comparison here.
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Gotilk, were you talking about the first podcast with Kevin Falls?
That was a pretty good one.
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Agent Garrity would come back and an "antagonist" time traveler would be introduced... wasn't clear if he was garrity or not.
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L.H. visit the McKidd clan up north while you're there.
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Thursday, Jan.24-Lionsgate, Marvel Studios Sign Interim Deals with the Writers Guild.
From UnitedHollywood.blogspot.com
...“Lionsgate is considered a leader in the industry, and its signing an interim agreement again confirms that it is possible for both writers to be compensated fairly and respectfully for their work and for companies to operate profitably.”
Upcoming Lionsgate films include Rambo, The Eye, Tyler Perry’s Meet the Browns, Forbidden Kingdom, My Best Friend's Girl, Punisher 2, Saw 5, and The Spirit. Upcoming television series include Weeds (Showtime, fourth season), Mad Men (AMC, second season), and Fear Itself (NBC, debut season)....
“We’re very excited about our summer releases, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, and look forward to resuming work with writers on our future projects including Captain America, Thor, Ant-Man, and The Avengers,” said Marvel Studios Chairman David Maisel.
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At least the McKidd clan can eat.
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If the writers strike is resolved, and scripts have been already written, production could start immediately... not sure how long an episode would take.. but heard tvshows dont take longer than a few weeks. fate of Journeyman still in the air of course.
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Not sure how I feel about McKidd in Thor... Dan Vasser hates Thor.
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Mesa bomb bad.
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youre doing a good job keeping this TB alive as much as you can gotilk. No one has any good info on Jman right now. I'm waiting for tomorrow's podcast on sliceofscifi for anything.
Gotta go..work calls.
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1. Avoid gypsies in subway. 2. Try the Fish and Chips. 3. Find McKidd in Scotland. I'll try 1 & 2. Don't think I'll have time for 3. I might get out to Stonehenge. Thanks.
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Dont know the show(I am from Germany),but hope too see it soon.Kevin is a cool dude(Vorenus and Pullo are great).Keep it up man!
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and dont talk about "Rugby" either.
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I hear you loud and clear. LOL! Two cultures divided by a common language.
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for having helmets and shoulder pads. Of course...
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Some call it football. Some call it soccer. And then there's rugby. Which looks like soccer until you notice the ball. That and everyone wrestling for it. I don't know much about all that. I will say one thing about American football that has always bothered me. And I'm a fan! The Super Bowl is coming up, and the winner will be referred to as the "World Champions". If all the teams playing are from the same country, where does the "World" part come in? I've never seen a Super Bowl where, say, The Colts beat the team from Paris to win the World Championship. Has Seattle ever knocked Rome out of the playoffs? I know, I know, I'm eee-vil. Another thing: Please knock that damn smile off Tom's face! Will'ya do that for me, Eli? Please? Your brother took it last year. It's your turn. Hey NBC! Bring back Journeyman!! Fucka's! Does that keep me on topic?
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we had some decent Teams(in the last season almost all from Germany,that sucked).The NFL should have a World League,that would be cool.
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Jan 26, 2008 12:22:00 AM CST
NBC have you stopped making Journeyman? BAD NBC!! Bad!!
by l.h.puttgrass
I don't know. The NFL? A World League? The NATIONAL Football League? Sounds like an oxymoron. If they expand to the rest of the world they should rename themselves. Maybe the WFL? I don't know if that would work. We do like our football and dislike mucking around with it. Remember the XFL? I think it's going the stay like it is, a world unto itself.
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hello from the lost talkback....your doing on hell of a job keeping this thread going....keep up the
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You are a man on a mission.
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Right Orcus?
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Ha - Made you laugh. But seriously, I'd buy the unaired episodes on DVD, that show made me laugh, albeit unintentionally.
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they showed some NBC programming from late last year, and it STILL had COMMERCIALS for Journeyman on Monday nights!!
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...well, my arms being tired is sort of a given [rimshot]cheers!
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Tell me if u can in summary what teh premise of Journeyman is.......I am in Irelnad here and I've never seen it scheduled for any of thte channels I ahve......whats it all about??
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I'll try to find it and have a wee look into it to see what I think..thank you
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shit,what can I do now?start living....
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And after three dozen futile attempts I completely broke down and sobbed for about two hours straight.
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so i wactehd it and it was brilliant!!!!!!!! why was this nveer picked up?!?!?!? because warner bros ilke all the other netowrks have any kind of idea when a good show comes along
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watched it, enjoyed it. nice to seee michelle forbes get some work. if only she stayed in star trek and agreed to be on ds9. life would have ben perfect
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im now on season 3 of farscape. the journey is god. some epsiodes arent that strong, but overall its been quite enjoyable. if this strike keeps up, i may end up having to wathc babylon 5
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so i'm having a little watch of those. hope it doesnt effect the viewship fopr this. i dont know why the network does do a quick rerun of the first season so everyone can jump on. i i think yo'll find a new audience with a lot of things now that there's limited stuff to wathc.. which is why you shoudl fucking rerun journeyman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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to watch journeryman. she downloaded the eps and wacthed it with ehr brother, she thought it was ok, but a bit slow. i told her it was a bit solw, but that she shoudl wtach the rest of it as it really picks up. then i had sex with ehr again. now tahts a whole load of trouble that ive gotten myself into again
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and casue people to rethink journeyman
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i loved buffy and angel, so when i wactehed moonlight i though this could be good. dont get me wrong its not brilliant,. its ok. but i wonder why would i want a substitue for the real thing. so instead ive stop watching moonlight and i'll stick to my angel epsiodes thank you very much
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but in the meantime did anyone watch that truth question and answer program on fox the other day? can t remember whta it was called. just proves how completely stupid peoplre really are. it really gets the audeience it deserves
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the first episode wth masters was good. but i dont understand why it was nessary fro spike an jack to snog. had no plot relevance. im tired of these shows by rusleellt bagger that keep on rehashing the same content. what a talentless hack!
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on tv
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keep up the good work brother. its a lonley battle here, but good work on keep up the front
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god i wanna watch this movie, it isnt here in the uk as yet, but i edfintaley want to go and see it. a good date mov ie would you say?
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and watch meet the spartans
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i know what it means. i just seemed somthing that didnt stand out. although considereing everything thats been and gone, i wouldnt have it anyother way
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Jan 27, 2008 2:06:04 AM CST
how about suipoortng and promting the shows when you actually ha
by mr_x
NBC to stop producing pilot shows
Bionic Woman's future is uncertain after low ratings
US network NBC is to stop making pilot episodes of TV series - a move that could change how new US shows are made.
The networks spend millions of dollars each year turning scripts into single episodes to test audience reaction.
But NBC Universal chief executive Jeff Zucker thinks he can save $50m (£25.6m) each year by scrapping them.
"We will still market those scripted series. We are just going to go straight to air with them and cut out the pilots," he said.
The move has partly been prompted by the writers' strike, which has led studios to scale back on new productions because of a lack of scripts.
Soaring costs
The cost of producing a pilot has soared over the last three years from $3m (£1.5m) to $7m (£3.6m).
Last year NBC commissioned eight new drama series after pilots were produced. The system is supposed to weed out failures.
"I think there were a tremendous number of inefficiencies in Hollywood and it often takes a seismic event to change them, and I think that's what's happened here," Mr Zucker told the Financial Times.
Among the shows dropped by NBC after one series is Journeyman, a time-travel series featuring Scottish star Kevin McKidd.
The future of Bionic Woman - starring former EastEnders actress Michelle Ryan - is uncertain after it suffered low ratings. Only eight episodes were aired before the writers' strike affected production.
NBC says it will still commission one or two pilots a year, but other series will go straight into production. It is not clear whether other studios will follow.
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Leave that movie be. Treat it like a bear in the woods. Don't make direct eye contact with it!
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Very bad.
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The TBers all agree. Bad. Worse than Boll. And that's bad.
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funny. not laugh out loud hilarity, more of a guffaw. I'm actually looking forward to harold and kumar. i just wtach my downloaded copies of kithcen confidetial and john cho ( ifact the whole csat) had great comic timing. why that wasnt a hit on the level of "friends" i'll never know
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Go see that. I liked it.
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surely cant be that bad!
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recentlty ive stopped hunting around for background info and spoliers and the likel. it allows me to watch something with a fresh opair of eyes. cloverfield has been rather secrect and under the radar, which i really like and the fact that its got so many positive reviews means im gonnas have to catch it with the lads
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its not as if they actually show any sci fi
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i need something to look forward to and then be devestead about
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`time for a shower and shit and te usual stuff. have a good day everyone.. annd keep on watvhing the show!
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yeah he doesnt seem defeated. he's still hoping. i just remember that if they do carry on the strike and it pasts april, they have no develpoment time for new pilots, so theres a chance we'd get more journeyman....possibly. we just have tp make sure that everyone buys teh dvd when it comes out.. hopefully it will have a lot of good stuff on there.
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Anybody know if they've pulled the plug on JM or is there still hope? I think this weekends boxoffice shows what we're up against. A new Rambo movie was edged out of first place by the tripe that is Meet the Spartans! Meet the Fucking Spartans!! Check out Rotten Tomatoes! Has a movie ever rated lower than 05%? I can't think of any. Yet people went to see it like lemmings. Go figure.
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I am happy to help keep this post going. I did the download from I-tunes of the whole Season when they replaced it with Life, a while back. But I had heard the cast and crew had been given their release notices, which pretty mcuh meant they could go on and do whatever they wanted, since JM wasn't coming back. Is there an updated plan to get this show back?
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EP #4 at 10pm EST. See ya there.
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Raving lunatic or no, Journeyman did in fact deserve many seasons more. :-)
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He should be a bit more careful.
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I was hooked from the beginning, but the ep that really took me in and made sweet love to me was doubledown.
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I'll be here for Episode Four!
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It always takes me at least 10 tries. What's up with the sign in here?
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Make that 48 ;)
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this talkback on top where it should be.
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The obvious one...Stream on Mondays
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See savejourneyman.net
& http://tinyurl.com/27fns8
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Many addresses here:
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No explanation needed on that one
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http://tinyurl.com/2sjbk3
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They've probably been wondering where you've been while you've been posting about Journeyman anyway.
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http://tinyurl.com/2ktdzy
http://tinyurl.com/32uegz
And those two are only the most recent ones. There's so many Journeyman diggs.
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One for the streaming nights would be cool.
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And now tinyurl hates me too.
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*Hands Gotlik a Pillow*
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This one
http://tinyurl.com/2mtn6y
Looks like the way to register is by signing up here:
http://tinyurl.com/2yxf9o
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I honestly don't remember. We'd have to look back through the threads, I guess.
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10 pm on the dot.
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Episode Four!
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#4!!
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I'm watching Stutteringman again!
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And this was definitely one of the weakest in my mind. We'll see if it plays better the second time around.
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...I just watched the opening credits twice. Along with the spot for Strange Wilderness. Twice! It's still stuttering...
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Smooth as silk, actually.
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I can feel your server straining. Dai-sy! Dai-sy! Give me your answer doooo! I'm haalf craa-zy. All fffor the lovve of yoooouu......... *Fzzzt!* Bub-Bye!
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Arghhh!! I can't stand it!! No! I have will power! I can do this! HAL JORDAN!! YES!! I will finish what I start!!
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Wow. Katie looks good in that green dress. Woops. Dan's outta there, Katie.
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AHHHHHH! Ha! Ha! Ha! What? Dan just disappeared again!? And again? What the fuck? Please stop repeating damn it!
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Writing on the mirror. And Katie's sad. Boo Hoo.
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Gotta be honest, this one didn't play that much better for me the second time around. It seemed to plod for some reason. But that's okay, because things REALLY start rolling next week with 'The Legend of Dylan McCleen'! Can't WAIT for that, because that was the episode that really started setting the show into high gear for me.
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Stuck in time like Groundhog Day not Journeyman. WHYYYY?!?
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Dan disappears. Strange Wilderness Dan disappears. Strange Wilderness Dan disappears. Strange Wilderness Dan disappears. Strange Wilderness Rinse and repeat.
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...help meee... pplease.. eeeelp me.
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The bar scene. again
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I'll be there, Katie. At least its running smoother.
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Dan jump into an infinate time loop?
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Egad.
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You know they warned against that, vitamin C be damned!
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It's much better now. No stuttering. Start, Stop, Start. Now it's good.
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Need that vitamin C.
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Cross your fingers.
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It didn't repeat!! I'm FREEEE!!
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I can do that.
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This show is tops.
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I must be channeling gotilk.
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I just finished the show, by the way.
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Maybe?
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Just wondering.
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Jan 28, 2008 11:00:21 PM CST
gotilk may well be sleeping. I don't know his time zone.
by l.h.puttgrass
As for the show, it's good but streaming? Not so much.
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Did you mean about the streaming being great or about Gotlik falling asleep?
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That would mean a lot of people were watching. :) Sorry to say this...my streaming went ok.
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and I'm drawing a blank.
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Journeyman fans love NBC. :D
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If you'll look at my above posts, you'll see my adventures in streaming the show. It's only bad at 10pm EST. It must be a server/bandwidth thing.
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At 10pm EST. During the mass download of the show.
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Goodnight.
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Mass download stutters are a very good thing.
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I read further up. Night.
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Seriously, we've been talking on this Talkback for over a month and it's number four on the list of recent posts for a talkback. Either this show is really keeping interest, or this just happens to be the one spot that talkbackers want to use to talk to each other in. If it's the former, then NBC made a huge fucking mistake canceling this show. Oh and for the record I think that they did make that mistake.
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its gone. Its not coming back. I bet you people stalk your ex-girlfriends too, believing theyll come back to you if you give them enough attention. Give it up!
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after the restraining order! :-)
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What does it matter to you if some people still post here and care about the show?
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...doesn't explain the phone call that Dan received from him while in the past in EP #4. What was up with that? I gotta go back to work. Later.
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I was not entirely sure why he got banned.
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I was just pointing out that there are loose ends left over. Especially concerning Langley and what he knows and what he is capable of doing. He may be a time traveler...
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please no...
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It sounds like an epic.
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I will wait!
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Monkeys make everything better!
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I'm going to take my own advice and go to bed. Don't let the sound of your own wheels make you crazy. I heard that in a song once...
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I say keep it going.
I only saw the first 8 episodes and I liked them. I should have recorded the rest...oh well.
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nbc.com them! They're streaming free, and should still be there. If not there, try http://openhulu.com.
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THERE IS FINALLY... LOST!!! Get it while you can.
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PLEASE?
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The world is strange. The facts are stranger. History is fun though, isn't it?
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Actually a pretty interesting read. Thank you for sharing Orcus. Travelers do exist.
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And here! Posting away! 10pm EST The Journeyman Download-A-Rama of Episode #5! At nbc.com. See you later, guys.
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Talkback power activate...shape of a NBC executive renewing Journeyman.
Thanks for that intentional or unintentional Wonder Twins reference.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about see: http://tinyurl.com/28p9t3
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you diehard! holding down the fort as usual. I'm still looking to see if the rumors of the strike being over is true. Right now.. only a rumor. No news about anything until that's over. Til then...episode 5.
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There's a possibility that I'll be going to a parade tonight after work. That'll make it hard for me to be home at 9pm CST and catch JM online with everybody. I live in southeastern Louisiana. So tomorrow ain't Tuesday and today isn't really Monday. If you get my drift...
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Last year it was Peyton. This year it was Eli. YeeeeHaaaaaa!!!!
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I quite enjoy the creativity of this talkback. So, I'm hoping it is legit. We do talk about the episodes.
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This is one of the best episodes of the season. Even if you start with this episode, you will get hooked.
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I'm trying to figure out a way to relate this to Journeyman and it's a stretch. Here goes...if the Giants, who were without a doubt one of the biggest underdogs could come back and win the Super Bowl, then the fans of Journeyman can win over NBC.
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Torrent Love, the stuff of sonnets. ;) The trend networks should notice. There's got to be some marketing study out there that correlates the number of downloads with how big the market is for a particular show.
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Ted Koppel in the role of Langley, let's see if anybody notices.
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So for those of you reading, try following our two separate conversations. :D
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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But I do have to grab a bite.
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I did not post my last post that many times in a row.
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for the ads but then got more into the game as time went on. ;)
And no playing soccer does not make you a commie :p A foreign friend of mine did try and indoctrinate me into the joys of watching soccer and I'll admit for that one game, I did see her point. -
Bet that's something you never thought you'd hear. Networks would probably make a lot more money if they allowed people outside the U.S. to stream their shows. People also want to view their television, when they want to view it.
So that's like if Schwinn made a really great bike and refused to sell it anywhere but one store. That store was only open once a week for one hour. This bike has great demand in a certain segment of the population but that segment can't get to the only store where Schwinn is selling its phenomenal bike. Naturally people are going to try to get it elsewhere. -
And the music industry is still catching up. Critics charged that people would not pay for music online if they could get it free, but people do buy on itunes. Journeyman is offered on itunes and amazon but only for domestic sales.
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That is the perfect solution. I'd have no problem sitting through a few ads if I can watch online at the time that's convenient for me. I'm one of those dreaded DVR viewers of Journeyman, but I would watch ads if it meant keeping some of my favorite shows around.
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rock star? Every campaign needs some good musicians.
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had some high-profile guest stars. I suppose Quentin Tarantino would be out because well it's not violent enough. Perhaps Sam Jackson.
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I can see him coming into Gotlik's season two. As Dan tries to investigate the graffiti and figure out what he did in the past, he notices that he's being surveilled by a man who looks oddly familiar.
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Has that feature always been there or is it new?
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EP #5!! Let's GOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Just runnin' a few minutes behind is all...
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Either one or both are good.
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is done so well. So many tv shows show a sort of fake parental bond with the kids. Great job to the directors and actors on that.
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Looks like we have to find our own. :p
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Thanks for D.B. Cooper
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Start. Stop. Start. Freeze. Start. Freeze. Start. Stop. Etc. Etc. Etc.
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is when even the bit parts are well-acted. The executives around the table, the newspaper workers.
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You want to make money, invent a search engine.
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5 seconds of oooooooohh, 5 seconds of ............! On the one hand, it'll take me twice as long to watch this. On the other hand, somebody's servers must be hurtin'!! Feel the pain, NBC!!
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First time.
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Gotlik already got that quote. Oops!
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Yay!
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TV and radio playing in the background to identify what time Dan is in. And then also when we're back in the present, like in Katie and Dan's kitchen.
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when they freeze-frame on moments of the hero's actions.
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I'm flying!! Ha! Ha! Haaaa!!
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the cadence is so similar!
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18:30 in and counting.
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otherwise there's an echo in here.
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YEAH!
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http://tinyurl.com/2swuno
What do you know about time travel?
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I. AM. SPEEEEEEEED!!!
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Writers trying to make a parallel there?
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Am I late for that?
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Oh wrong show. :D
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Your magic. Great moment!
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that they track the serial numbers, a fact that comes back to haunt Dan.
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Ack!
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http://savejourneyman.net/forums/index.php/topic,149.0.html
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was fun!
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Gotlik that's quite a sacrifice!
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But we did definitely do episode commentary.
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Man quits smoking for his favorite show.
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watches and would agree to be the celeb spokesperson?
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lack of flames is rare anywhere on the internet. Even on Hey Nielson, there were flames on the Journeyman opinions.
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YAY! YAY FOR ME!! Good show. It was magic.
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with all that stuttering.
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what.. me.. late? work again.
i'll do this again maybe pac 10 too.
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Dylan did guest-star in Dharma & Greg.
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1 hour 36 minutes to watch 42 minutes. (Dying Pac-man sound.) ER-er ER-er Er-er Er-er er-er er-rr rr-rr-r rr r WANK-WANK!!
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Unfortunately, I got one o' them Mom calls...you know the ones...'Oh, I haven't heard from you, so I was just wondering if everything was okay...' followed by the subsequent guilt-trip. Folks live on the other coast. ANYway, this was the episode that really sold me on this series the first time, so much so that I remembered it beat-for-beat and it still plays so great. And of course it sets up a great arc of episodes leading all the way up to the finale. The scene in the kitchen, Langley's "..God." Seeing his father. All pitch-perfect.
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Journeyman would already be renewed if whomever made the "Rice-A-Roni" decision went with ketchup sandwiches instead... fact.
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When it freeze frames for several seconds I can scan the background for all the set decor stuff. All the time specific things and details that this show is so good at. At regular speed you miss a lot of it. But not at Download-A-Rama Speed! 2 to 8 seconds of go. 5 to 7 seconds of "Hey! Dig that old time Coke machine!".
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A Jaws advertisement in the background when Dan sees Dylan.
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I remember seeing that for the first time in the theater. Alameda, CA. The California 3 Cimema 1975! And I went see it again and again!
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movie in the theater!
My parents made a similar mistake...I saw Harold and Maude. Not exactly kid-friendly themes in there. -
(child rearing- so many jokes there...) My sister has some friends that have kids. Sometimes the kids (when they were littler.) would spend the night on Friday or Saturday. They'd rent DVDs and pop popcorn. On one such night Harry Potter came up in the conversation. The oldest boy immediately pops up with, "We're not allowed to watch Harry Potter! Mom and Dad say he's the Devil!". Oh, Boy. About a month later, this same kid, comes over with a PS2 game that his parents gave him. Guess what game. Go on. Guess. GTA Vice City. Go figure...
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Is there anybody out there?
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Can you post the time code at which it airs? I went back to find it but couldn't.
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Ahhhh.....
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to everyone in states that are voting today.
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It's shaking out to a choice between four losers. Soon to be two losers. And then, of course, the one big loser. Heaven help us. Superman, where are you?
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Congrats! I've had similar feelings since my heart attack. I hate pills. Now I take them everyday. Some for the heart. Some for other fun new wrinkles in my genetic itinerary. So, not feeling like yourself, like YOU. I feel ya.
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Feb 05, 2008 12:29:47 AM CST
Mine is streaming with barely any hitches in it's giddey-up.
by l.h.puttgrass
Go figure.
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It is wonderful you regained your writer's voice and that creative outlet.
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Feb 05, 2008 12:33:01 AM CST
There must have been a 'strain' on the system earlier.
by l.h.puttgrass
Yeah,baby! YEAH!!
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So if Gotlik didn't come up with the Downloaderama, then who did?
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now there would be some good candidates.
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Your answers can be above. Way above.
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So I guess it wasn't you either?
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Guess what I did. Must edit before posting.
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a combination of ideas from BrannigansLaw & VegasRon.
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finished streaming twice...both not at 10 eastern. fammit!
I diluted the streams!
At least you guys did it right.. It doesn't look like my work will let me play at 10. Pacific time sucks right now. Cool Wiki reference: * Jack makes a joke about Dan's explanation for why he disappeared, referencing Alfred Hitchcock's 1958 film.
Dan: I got sick, Vertigo, or...
Jack: What'd you fall in the bay? ....and with that.. I'm fried. Good night.
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Suggestion for Journeyman fans
by Spank Dec 20th, 2007
12:56:35 PM
I would suggest that all those who enjoyed the show to pile over to NBC and keep watching it, whenever you can, from beginning to end, for as long as NBC keeps it on their site. Now as for doing it only in it's regular time slot, BrannigansLaw & VegasRon did come up with that idea. The idea sort of evolved on the talkbacks. Other TBers pitched in to get it going. Now we have this wonderful weekly get-together! I love the Internets! Hey! Who started calling it the InternetS?
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If so, how many?
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Good job people!
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Great job everybody!!
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We're way up there man!
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Feb 05, 2008 1:55:21 AM CST
Because of Journeyman I used to look forward to Monday nights...
by l.h.puttgrass
... and now, I still do! I had fun tonight and I hope everyone else did too! See y'all next Monday.
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...the Giant beating the Patriots in the Superbowl!
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Suck it, Belly-check.
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AND I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO WORK!! I'LL BE PARTYING AND BELLY-CHECK WILL STILL BE CRYING IN HIS BEER!! 18 - 1 Dude. 18 - 1.
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A big fat 1.
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TODAY IS MARDI GRAS! I gotta pay attention to the clock!
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I love Journeyman, but Doctor Who is the man.
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Feb 05, 2008 10:09:36 AM CST
I think that a low budget forces excellent stories in Who
by darfurontherocks
That said, why can't we have both....? I used to think that the Doctor that a person first watches is the one that they like best. However, I must admit that David Tennant is very good. Peter Davidson was the one that I enjoyed also.
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The idea that when he is gone his present time line feels his time away is very novel and well done. It shows the consequence to his traveling which is a function on him not having control over it like Sam Beckett, but with different in that he his anchored by returning to the present. IMHO, people were raving about the LOST future forward scenes but fail to understand that all of these future events are theoretical! As a result all this crap that we see never actually happens canonically. I have the same peeves with those ST: TNG episodes which are cool, but ultimately inconsequential.
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Feb 05, 2008 12:17:59 PM CST
Clarification----Not part of the official Timeline...
by darfurontherocks
That is what I mean. For example, if jack stays on the island then none of the events in the flash forward actually happen in the LOST timeline. This is perhaps best shown in STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION where in one episode we see a cool shot of the NCC-1701-D with 3 warp nacelles in the future. Too bad, In the first Next Generation movie, the Enterprise-D gets blown up....
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hows it going fellas?
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did end up listening to that thanks for the link. nice to here kevin on there
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yeah it was alright. not quite journeyman.. but intrestig diversion nevertheless. quite impressed by their production values. next season im watching is madmen
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Feb 05, 2008 10:57:28 PM CST
Thanks Spanks and Everyone else who came up with Downloaderama
by looplala
It was a fun Monday night.
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;)A little editing would be nice.
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Oleg?...
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I just watched Lost and it was terrific!!
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Or as I like to call it, 9pm CST. Be there or be a four sided object with four equal sides and four equal angles.
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before I get spoiled somewhere. :p
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Sounds like a perfect time for Journeyman fans to contact NBC.
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http://tinyurl.com/3558nv
http://tinyurl.com/32vahc
http://tinyurl.com/2tlex9
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Should be good with all that advanced prep!
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Curious to see what you've come up with.
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Never ate in Indian restaurants when I was there but there were some absolutely amazing burittos with you guessed it... rice.
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I was thinking that someone should start the ball rolling to make 2061 into a movie. I figured Scheider was old enough to play the Heywood Floyd part again. But, alas, that will never happen. He will be missed.
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Needs new Journeyman episodes.
Good morning Gotilk. You're awesome. Looks like I'll be late again because of work tonight. But I'll try to watch it at my desk. The strike may be over soon. Let's step this thing up! -
Sounds good..except maybe ketchup will be on the side. I think the best indian food I've ever had was in NY. I forget the name.. expensive though.
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Next time Im there, I'll try claremont.
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Now only 8000 more to go until Lost's season finale TB record.
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Hard to believe the Jets shut out the Colts in the playoffs. Hard to believe the Jets ever make the playoffs.
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as im in the bloddy uk!
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cause its sooo bloody good and i know it only goning to get better!
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Journeyman is listed in the poll! Go show your support & vote!
http://tinyurl.com/3lpdg
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Very funny. Now if I only owned a restaurant in San Francisco and could put it on the menu.
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Roy Scheider. So coincidental we were just talking about the Jaws reference in episode 5 last week.
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Thanks :)
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and Journeyman Chicken did come up on some gaming site. The wild world of the internet:
http://tinyurl.com/2wbjsv
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I bought some more rice-a-roni and am sending it this week.
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/sniff
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to put on my list. I know those are classics, so shame on me.
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that iconic movie poster for E.T. with E.T.'s and Elliot's fingers touching.
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I'm just amazed how many of these have become the backdrop for our current pop culture: http://tinyurl.com/32oplg
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and/or an evil jumper? Because I do think that would be really cool. Also, the more I've been thinking about it, the more I think the comet mumbo-jumbo is a mcguffin. I hope it's either genetic, or some group from the future pushing Dan (maybe a little too 4400). Is it obvious though that someone/something was making him jump? I mean he always seems to port at the exact right time - unless maybe Dan can make himself jump and doesn't even it know it. I've been thinking about this show a lot still.
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What happens after the final episode. Looks like the fans are going to have some intense campaigning to do till then.
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that Journeyman won't return. And I know it's a long-shot, but I really think Journeyman's worth the effort. There's got to be a way that television doesn't get completely dumbed down for good.
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episode 6 it is.
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EP #6!!!
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Few minutes late, but I'm already hearing Take On Me...
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The relationship of the brothers in this mission is going to be contrasted with the relationship of Dan and his brother.
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Right when Jack notices the piece of glass on Dan's costume.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/JOURNEYMAN-VAN-ZACK-VASSER-COLLECTIBLE-PHOTO-FRAME_W0QQitemZ140204782620QQihZ004QQcategoryZ18841QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
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just how likeable he is, and how selfless he is. I can take the drinking cop main characters, and terrible marriages, etc. that are prevalent in most shows now, but I like how Dan is really a good guy to look up to (even if he used to be a gambling alcoholic- c'mon he's reformed!)
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Does he know more than he's saying?
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all scared of the grey goo and whatnot...
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the boss mentions the serial bomber before Dan knows what he's talking about.
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Just saying. Also, I'm in my own timezone again. Startin' and Stoppin'. Startin' and Stoppin'. Startin' and Stoppin'. Awww, crap.
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Just saying.
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15:30 and counting. * sigh *
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Prep work works - Third Eye Blind.
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I can read your guys' posts though. see where youre at.
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have a different decision-making process. Kowalchuk says to Dan "You can't expect me to turn in my brother" (not exact quote)
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The school starts March 3th. It goes for 2 weeks. I don't have a flight yet. Probably will leave March 1st. Something like that.
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"Shows not expected to resume production include "Bionic Woman" and "Journeyman"; both are currently considered canceled. NBC insiders remain high on "Life," though it likely won't be back before the summer or fall."
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so I'll be here for a little bit.
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Wow! I'm flying!!!!!!
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Very odd!
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see that he would say "It's always the shoes?"
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We need to send them this TB.
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if it's not some show about stupid slutty doctors they don't give two shits about it. Boffo my balls.
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wonder how many pages this thing would be printed out.
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"bionic woman" was dead the moment it first aired. Should not be mentioned in the same breath as Journeyman.
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to change their minds? Over $4000 in rice-a-roni one that one site alone!
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NBC gets the ass boot.
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I'm not start-stopping anymore!! It's kinda pixelated but, it's smooth. Right when everyone else has stopped streaming. Hmmmmm...
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Holy string of coincidences Journeyman! I've always found time travel interesting but never wrote anything on it.
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could've been him. Did he say something about shoes too in Perfidia? Can't remember. I was thinking Langley or Dan's father as candidates too.
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I think I'll actually watch the episode now. Since I can do it without the interuptions. Start-Start. Stop-Stop.
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You're actually Dan Vasser aren't you? Just kidding. Creative minds come up with creative things
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Info? http://tinyurl.com/2d7auf I think the original link was actually longer than the tinyurl link.
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Get in good with Jeff Zucker or buy some stock in Rice-a-Roni. Perhaps I need to give this some more thought. lol.
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Would like to see it. Will check back in. Going to call it a night. Very cool stuff tonight.
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It won't stop the Start-Stop dance. And it was doing so well earlier...
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you can stream the ep on savejourneyman.net if you can't get it to stream on nbc.
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But I LOVE this episode, just the way it hits you from all sides with humor and little revelations, and that final sweet rubber-burning dash off in Jack's car. One of the most beautiful aspects of this show was the ADULT relationship between Dan and Katie, and it's beautifully on display here. In lesser hands, it could have been a cliche mess, but it really shines as two people in love struggling to deal with a bizarre problem. I. LOVE. THIS. SHOW. Period. See you next week guys.
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Your fat fingers have lifted this TB on their own. Thanks gotilk! I just checked in now. i finally finished my pacific time streaming-a half hour later...Awesome episode! No. 7 next week! til then...late!
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Moon Bloodgood rules.
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Since there is now a Website to vote for Journeyman can you post a new thread? There are only a little over 6,000 votes right now, so every little bit would help.
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to see if journeyman is back on yet.. nope? okay. be back later.
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i love to keep dipping into this thread to read all the mad ramblings
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I miss the buffyverse hugely. was never a fan, watched an epsiode of buffy whilst flicking through the channels and it was the first epsiode i watched (buffy vs dracula). i had mistakenly thought it was some crapfest teen drama like the movie. i was completely and utterly mistaken, brought all the dvds. it has to be one of my all time favourite shows which angel. which is why moonlight is such a farce. once you've hadsucha good program like angel i just couldnt bring myslef to go to vampire light. thats not to say i dont like other vampire genres like 30days of night. i thought that movie was brilliant. moonlight just has too many simlilar concepts and none of the heart of angel
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did anyone else think that dans blazer and gold button and chinos looked rather odd in the first epsiode? looked even weirder in the final epsiode when he was watching himself. terrible outfit dan terrible!
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ive been extemerley busy over the last 4 months and will continue to do so. i havent had the opportunity to listen to any music, i ahvent wathed any music channels listened to the radio in the car or out and about, so i have no idea whats good. i thought the best thing to do would be to downlaod the top 400 and have alisten what was good. out of the top 40, there were a total of 3 songs that i liked. fucking tragic. so ive gone and downloaded some of peter gabreils old stuff and ive been listening to the same old tunes on my i-touch. is nothing good on tv or the radio ?!?!?!
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im just becoming an old fart
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PAX JOURNEYMAN, BITCHES!!
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http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/ take the poll, remember who owns SciFi!!!
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I voted for the Journeyman over at Sci-Fi!DTV forever!
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but the first 3 eps have been kind of "uhhhh"
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say it aint so
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thanks for the hint for the indie rock list im gonna defo check it out
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Ok so who has contact info for Lorne? :D
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http://tinyurl.com/yqrlhv
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separately from your account to post on these talkbacks?
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an alternate music track for Journeyman. I've thought about just replacing the music several times too Gotlik.
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there's a thread about it:
http://tinyurl.com/36lmmh
(Happy Valentine's Day to the tinyurl people from the Journeyman fans :p)
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That is all.
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http://tinyurl.com/ynl2wc
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Episode 7: Double Down
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savejourneyman.net or Hulu.com
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seriously
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because a) they want to kill the show completely and not let momentum bring it back b) they are pushing through the dvds sometime soon and they dont want people to continuosly watch the eps online c)the bandwidth is killing them
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It's old but I had never seen it before - so thanks. In it, they show the clip where Dan comes home to discover (don't read further if you haven't seen later episodes) he now has a daughter. What a great scene.
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I would have to go with choice A. :D Being cynical here. How many letters to NBC do you think it would take to get those episodes back up?
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So people without Hulu accounts can stream on the savejourneyman.net blog.
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But that no fruit rule...
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http://tinyurl.com/2o2gno
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when we're gone. :D
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Episode 7.
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but we could make some up, no? :D Really, I do know what you mean about the episodes. Everytime I watch, I have to wonder how this show could ever be on the chopping block. I consoled myself this weekend by finally starting to catch up on Torchwood.
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hasn't come to BBC America yet. Of course there are alternative ways of getting it.
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take them out to dinner and a movie on Mondays. :) Alright yes, writing letters and sending Rice-a-Roni is much better.
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Nielsen families that is. That would've been so sweet if they had agreed to let you in. I really don't get the criteria they use, but then again we're not supposed to know.
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What would female serial killers watch? I'm going to go with procedurals like CSI...nothing to do with the fact that it's on Mondays at 10, I swear. I never did get why Lifetime television for women always show violent flicks where women are in harm's way. Fortunately now they do show other things.
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http://tinyurl.com/2bs9re
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Misspelled is one of the top misspelled words. I haven't the faintest idea how to relate that back to Journeyman.
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just checking in--So it's Hulu.com now? See you at 10e.t./7p.t. tonite!
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depending on if you have a Hulu account or not.
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would probably be a mix of faith and science. That would be my guess. The writers would probably reveal most of the answers but leave viewers guessing and discussing the rest.
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So getting started late isn't a problem. ;)
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whats up ya'll!
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Feb 18, 2008 6:45:25 PM CST
with the word on the street that knight rider is a load of pants
by mr_x
why not bring back journeyman! when are these friggin dvd coming out? knowing our luck they've been pressed on hd-dvd
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this for me was the epsiode that made journeyman a ggood show into an amazing show. a truely great epsiode!
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That jumped it from good to amazing for you? I like Journeyman from the start but it's interesting that for so many people it was different episodes that truly brought them in as a fan. if networks had some more patience these days, there'd be a whole lot more good television out there. Sometimes it takes several episodes for a television to gain its footing.
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Feb 18, 2008 8:13:47 PM CST
Okay, I'm here. But somebody's got some 'splaining to do!
by l.h.puttgrass
Right! #1 NBSeeYa has monkeyed around with the Jman EP downloads on their site. The EP's aren't there now. #2 This seems to be a response to our Moonday night downloads. So they know we're here. They felt the drain on their site. Good. But what do we do now? #3 Downloading from these other sites, does it get back to NBC? How? #4 If it doesn't get back to NBC, what good is it? We're just watching EPs and NBC's sharpening their axe for the next good show. #5 I need somebody to tell me just what good we're doing with the downloading now. #666 I'm pissed. I don't like it when someone slams the door in my face. I may have to start downloading from NBC.com's Journeyman page. I don't give a fuck what it is! I'm streaming it all. #7 I may be a bit angry and irrational. Anyone else feeling it?
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keep the faith bro go to http://tinyurl.com/3bo73b its the site for hulu and its nbc / foxed owned. all the eps are there bro. and keep going to savejouenyman.net for the latest news
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i loved this episode, things started falling into place for this show here. every action that dan had had a consequence, we see that with the money that he got last epsiode.. and the shows and the storylines start weaving together. great interaction with dan and livia. and you can see why jack and katie love each other so much and you can feel that dan has had tough times, but reliving gives him the opprotunity to remember how he felt and why he loves both these women so much.
what i love about this epsiode is the perfect use of the music by the verve " lucky man" where dan has to lose in poker to win his life back.
theres a point in this epsiode around the 37:30 minutes mark thats just beautifully shot and the music is perfect. it just reminds me of those summer nights being up all night and making your way back home in early morning, when you just want it to continue.,and then livia walks down the alleyway, coloured lights in the background and goes back into the past.
perfect. just the way its supposed to be.
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well ive just signed the petition and donated to buy some rice a
by mr_x
and now its time for me to sleep as its fricking 2 in the morning uk time! keep the faith journeyman fans. it can move mountains
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Hulu.com is owned by NBC Universal. So streaming Journeyman on Hulu or on savejourneyman.net (that site is using Hulu on their blog) gets to the network just as much as streaming on the nbc site.
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If we stop streaming now, the network will just assume they've won and frustrated the fans.
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It says: Sign in using the information in your beta invitation email or with the account you have already registered with us.
Note that Hulu videos are only available to users located in the United States. I didn't get a beta invitation email and I don't already have an account. What kind of chicken or the egg bullshit is this? How does one register?
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Hit that enter button a little early. The good we're doing is showing the network there's still interest in this show and lots of it. But streaming is just one thing...fans can also write into the network, send Rice-a-Roni. I think I even saw some phone numbers somewhere.
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I'll have to go to SaveJourneyman.net. Oh, well. If I get any more depressed I'm bringing back the 'colors'. It'll be anarchy. Oooooooo!! Look out!!
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You either need an invite to join or you need to pester them like hell. If you don't have a Hulu account, you can stream it at savejourneyman.net. It's still Hulu but it goes through their that blog, so it still registers how many people stream.
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pac time and counting.
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No Hulu for me!!
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Don't know about the colors. Just don't bring fruit.
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Nice moments.That the creators took the time to show the characters and develop the plot at the same time.
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You don't remember the COLORS? The ultimate, absolute POWER OF THE COLORS! The ANARCHY OF THE COLORS NAD THE FONTS!?! Memories are short. And getting shorter.
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NAD = AND
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Y2K news on the television.
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I was...recycling, hey it's important.
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it's important. a little preachy but ok.
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L.H. There was awhile there I couldn't keep up with sheer amount of posts here. Either that or the colors thing was before my time here. Or I was...recycling (hey it's worth a shot).
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i dont trust him. He's too happy.
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LOL I was thinking I could do without that song on the DVD but then I saw that the guy in the car is singing it, so it would have to be reshot.
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:D Good twist.
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in the episode. Ren Faire. The dialogue in this episode is so thought out, not the usual things you hear on tv these days.
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couldn't quite place that actor. Looks like he's done a lot of guest spots:
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went to it years ago. Fat white trash with turkey legs in between breasts. and then there were the animals.
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Point to Point taxis. They had a field day coming up with names in this episode. Unless these are real places...anyone know?
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There is still some bits and pieces of the "colors conversation" in this TB. Check back around Dec.20th late at night. Playing with html code is fun.
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Asking your ex to help you in order for you to get together with your wife. Ouch.
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fun with html -oooh :)
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Better site or fewer people?
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Writing on whiteboards, papers, food in the kitchen, all the things in Dan's old apartment.
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Last week I mentioned Hugh (Dan's boss) might know something more than what he's letting on. So when he refuses to answer Jack's questions, is he just being a good boss or friend or is it something else too?
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Good touch from 99 in Dan's apartment. Commercial break, so I'm mentioning something from before.
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even if la vida loca is in it.
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better site.
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Much better.
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would be in the dark, suspecting an affair or something.
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you described this episode perfectly. Would also add, I liked the parallel where first Dan falls asleep with Katie by his side and she's the last thing he sees. And then in the present, Katie wakes up and Dan is the first thing she sees.
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haha yes that's also recognizably from that time.
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You need to copyright that one. It's true...that's the same old same old that this show didn't do. So many choices throughout Journeyman where they could've gone a predictable way, they didn't.
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I like the Mr Ed effect...viewers these days don't like to be strung along with other characters not knowing what's going on. Now that Jack and Katie are believers, wonder where the story would go from there. and how much longer they could cover for Dan.
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And if Hugh doesn't know, how long would he keep covering for Dan suddenly missing deadlines and being unreachable.
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I think, but I'm not sure, that it's Tom Brokaw on the television set in the hospital room before Dan takes down the bad guys. It's a really quick glimpse.
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Yeah... How long would Hugh cover for Dan? and do reporters really make that much to afford a house in SF?
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How does anyone on television afford the nice apartment they live in. Good point! San Francisco is one of the most expensive housing markets in the country. In later episodes, maybe we find out, someone helped them with the downpayments. ;)
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of which shows get seeded the most? Not necessarily just the networks.
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One of the aspects of the show I always liked is that there's enough conversation to illustrate the rapport between characters and to let us eavesdrop into what their lives must've been like. But they always get interrupted. Usually on show, these types of interruptions seem forced and implausible, just an excuse to not give the viewers plot info. But on Journeyman, the interruptions and the pacing all seem so natural. We could really buy that if Livia had more time, she would fill Dan in. Also, it seems sometimes she holds back information because Dan's not ready to know yet.
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Oh so there was a company. I would think maybe some trends companies take note of that kind of thing to tap into the next big thing. There are people whose job it is to spot the up and coming things. Interesting there was actually a company that did it, at least for a little while.
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Maybe if he knows too much, Dan would be in the same danger the other time travelers got into? Perhaps the reason they're not around anymore.
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would be nice. Firefly got that.
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but it was still a good discussion.
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Looks like the actor who plays Zack has a very thin resume. Whoever made the decision to go with this kid, has a great eye.
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knightbionicwomanrider. who is watching these shows?
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they can still stream. I wonder how many people showed up at nbc.com and went WTF?
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between number one and number three. So you're aiming for over 400 posts next week?
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thats who! okay only the reality show loving ones.
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dude.
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If Nielsen is to be believed, it's the majority of viewers. Who me sarcastic?
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tempting. Not as resourceful as you Gotilk. but we'll see.
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So can we sue NBC for emotional distress?
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Then 400 is more doable.
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They're here... Used to be one. Don't be shy.
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catchy.
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In an interview with Kevin Falls, it did mention AICN Journeyman TB... that's how I got on here. I think it was an IF magazine article... Maybe someone can forward this to Zucker?
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You have to find that article again. When was that?
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Guess who is going to be in "Street Fighter" the movie?
Wonder what role she's going to play? Wonder if it will bomb before it debuts? Wonder if she'll ever come back as Livia. did anyone play that game?
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Kristin Kreuk-Chun-Li, Michael Clarke Duncan-Balrog, Chris Klein-Nash, Rick Yune-Gen...Moon Bloodgood-??
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I always played as him. and Sagat.
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If she plays her mom im going to be pissed.
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oops..not IF magazine but a premium hollywood.com article. http://tinyurl.com/2f4w95 The article was a Q and A.
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sorry, i know this is a Journeyman TB, but one more streetfighter news.. The trailer for the Sf4 is well done.
Possibly coming out with the movie?
http://tinyurl.com/23yaxb
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Go to the pic of Katie with her cup of coffee near the bottom of the article.. go two paragraphs up from the top of the photo.
okay, they don't mention "TalkBack"..
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"BE: So what is going to happen with the remaining episodes? Because Ain’t It Cool News got everyone up in arms by saying that the network was gonna cancel the show unless the two-parter that started last night (Nov. 19th) and finishes next Monday (Nov. 26th) brings big numbers."...
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skimming the article with Kevin Falls makes me all pissy at NBC all over again.
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there must be something about superheroes and video game movies..willing to take the chance to play those roles. pay well? Suppose actors gotta eat.
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http://tinyurl.com/27m8kx
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where are you streaming from, hulu or savejourneyman.net? im streaming from the latter... it's pretty smooth so far.
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it's choppy now!
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re cy cl in g pa rt is ve ry ch op py.
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la vi da lo ca su ck s ev en wh en pl ay ed ch op py
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got too excited with street fighter.
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not nearly anything like the nbc site though.
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A little depressing to read the genius that is Kevin Falls. But man he always gives such thoughtful interviews.
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read it again. That way at least I'll be warned. LOL.
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Need to get up early myself-will see you later Gotilk.
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and L.H. and lurkers...
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With just a few more people, 400 isn't that unreachable. We've got half that as it is. Am I starting to get crazy now? :p Oh well...perhaps some sleep will cure that. Goodnight all.
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ok I'm in.
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NBC, BRING IT BACK YOU PIECES OF SHIT, KNIGHT RIDER SUCKS DONKEY BALLS.
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www.savejourneyman.net
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http://tinyurl.com/2mqqmp
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someone outbid me on dan vassers astrological report by $2.50. fammit!
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That rots Mr X. Sorry to hear that.
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Was looking for this thread on Sunday night but couldn't find it. Weak.
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We'll be back next Sunday. ;) See you there.
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Let's see if it works. :D Writing to NBC and sending in Rice-a-Roni are two of the best ways to save Journeyman. See savejourneyman.net and http://savejourneyman.funurl.com/
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last link.
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That's what I thought at first Gotlik and it could be. It's just that sneaking suspicion from last week where I realize that his reactions could be read either way.
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from number one today!
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then these writers have it really together - I'd be even more impressed. Maybe they did the last scene keeping that one scene in mind to give the series continuity.
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I may be blanking here, but Dan mentions a short-term job Livia has in this episode. Do we know what Livia's work was when she was with Dan?
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MR_X actually posted this one at over at the savejourneyman forum:
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this show sucked, nobody watched it, it's gone, i'm totally happy, the sun is still shining, etc.
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Not here - it's night. ;) But hey thanks for the post.
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Thinking of recurring elements...Morning banter between Katie and Dan in the kitchen, Two stories about abused sons (one the Kowalchuk kids but the other one comes in to play later on and ends up coming back to haunt Dan), historical news coverage on TVs in the background, father-son relationships.
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It was worth a try.
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I accidentally deleted something important off my DVR and now I can't get it back. I know whine, whine, blah, blah who cares. But I'm going to go ahead and blame this on NBC too.
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now that's a quality vent! Nite.
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http://tinyurl.com/ype4ql
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To answer your question Gotlik, it was a current event that I thought to be of historical importance - that's what I erased.
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I know. I was pretty surprised no nods for the women on Journeyman. The whole cast is so strong. Let's hear it for the girls...(bad 80s song reference).
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LV = Las Vegas? Is that the talkback where the whiners comment was made? Do I want to know? I kind of do...it's that accident phenomenon where you just have to look.
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HD really? Very cool of you to offer. It was something political - wanted to spare everyone from mentioning politics again. I did that once further upthread. :p
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Yeah actually I usually don't mention politics unprompted like I did upthread (it was late what can I say) unless I know people want to hear it. There are always strong feelings on all sides, this year especially. So I understand completely.
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:D Shoot for number one. Does this affect how many links you're preparing?
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I did once go to a shuttle launch in Florida. Very exciting, big deal. We waited and waited but it ended up being cancelled due to weather.
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I'll have to pre-view the episode in order to keep up Monday night. :p
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Bill Nelson (former astronaut). He explained live during one shuttle launch last year exactly what happens inside the shuttle and what the shuttle crew isdoing during various stages of the launch. The comments I found most interesting were his insights into what the astronauts are thinking during a launch and how it feels to go up in space.
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The SNL one. It's brutal in there!
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This is one of the best episodes of the series in my opinion. It should make for a good night Monday.
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in this episode alone are worth the watch.
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I don't say it every week, but it is certainly impressive how many times I could say it. This series has a lot of bests in its short run, one of the reasons we keep posting (not whining...ok we have a whine here and there) about Journeyman.
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But tonight I will have to do some more shopping and stuff before I go to England Friday. Gotta get everything ready to go.
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Episode 8, Winterland.
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Very sorry. What was happening with the lag?
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and so is this week's episode.
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Have a good trip. Enjoy England. Did you figure out which sights you'll see while you're there? So no talkback for you for awhile huh?
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I remembered it was on CNN but couldn't find it on their site. You might be able to find it though. I believe (not totally sure) that the launch was the Atlantis one.
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Six degrees of separation with Journeyman. Launch --> Cool Technology --> Nanotech ---> Journeyman. See all back on topic now and it only took three steps. :p
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That's gotta be the number one talkback today? Of course it was the Oscars.
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http://tinyurl.com/2cvesg It's from imdb.com
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Guess who performed there? Bob Dylan. Maybe the creators try to sneek Bob Dylan references and songs in wherever they can? Nah...here's the link anyway: http://tinyurl.com/2ob4zl
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Cool screen name. Stop back and post. Gotlik always has more links during the episode time.
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Here's the link to stream tonight's episode: http://tinyurl.com/22pen5
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This is bizarre: http://tinyurl.com/29m5mb
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..with the free time I'll have there. Mostly on the weekends. A day here and there.
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I'll have some time in London to look around. Stonehenge is about 45 minutes away to the east of where I'll be staying. I'll try to go there.
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45 minutes is not bad. I hope you do get to go. Will you be attempting driving on the other side of the road?
It's worth it to get one those guides like Lonely Planet to find the good places to eat. England is not known for its cuisine generally and you can end up with some really awful food. I certainly did when I went there.
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London to Journeyman. London --> Big Ben (Most Famous Clock) ---> Time ---> Time Travel ---> Journeyman. :D
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I hope so Gotlik.
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Hope the stream is uneffected.
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Gotlik mentioned lag time here too. I'm not getting any. Maybe everyone's busy populating the Oscar talkback.
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hello darlings it's moonday.
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Not with that Oscar TB in the way. 1410 posts! Wow!
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I am getting the lag.
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know what to wear when she travels? does she know she's going to a key party in the 70s and slips into something comfortable? not that im complaining.
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Didn't they know it was Moonday?
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we've got a long night ahead of us.
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There's a costume design time traveler?
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Be thankful you're not critiquing squash blossoms.
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need to pause for a bit.
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No skipping.
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It's slooooohohowwww.
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Nixon - the wiki: http://tinyurl.com/byc59
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I'm way behind because I stopped to get some links. 'Deep Throat' -was the secret source whose insider guidance was vital to The Washington Post's groundbreaking coverage of the Watergate
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Great save by Dan when he takes the wine back to the present but...Dan: I took it to the 70s. Katie: Maybe you should've left it there. :D
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and it was Nixon that turned you on. What other show could have this line?
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I wish they didn't kill him off. He's so good at being an ass.
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So is Garrity investigating because he's actually after Langley?
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as if it's all going according to plan.
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FAMMIT!!!!!!!
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The green truck...
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is priceless. Even in that scene when we barely see the other people in the van, the show took the care to put one of the women in a macrame shirt so typical of 70s garb. It's details like that that put this show miles above the rest.
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who do all the guys with him when he searches Dan's house work for?
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hiding the money.
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she's so underrated. but yeah.. she scored with the money hiding. didnt see that coming the first time round.
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Langley mentioned quartz. The hippie group in the cafe mention quartz. Keeps time better than any other substance.
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RICH.
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Is he at work?
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She travels to the future. He travels to the past. They were never meant to live together. So what happened that Livia got stuck in the present? Was someone trying to protect her or thwart her missions?
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crystals I will kill you. Take his watch. After these two lines, never thought about this on first viewing but does Dan go back and help people who are all related to time travel somehow. Like if he didn't save some of these people, he wouldn't be able to do what he does? Just a thought.
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I was stunned that Jack spent that bill at the end. We see in this episode how both brothers are conflicted over different things, how each is tied to his past with a ex, how Dan wants to stop traveling but can't.
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went to 1948? I don't know. Maybe he didn't we could still stream tonight. He posted upthread about how savejourneyman.net was down.
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that should read maybe he didn't know we could still stream.
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what story Dan was working on about Candlestick Point. Candlestick Point is a wetlands restoration park: http://tinyurl.com/27kaze
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you made it! That does suck about your ISP.
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but I would still like to read your links.
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WHAT IN WIDE, WIDE, WORLD OF SPORTS ISA GOIN' ON AT THE VERN'S DTV TRIPLE HEADER TALKBACK??!?
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they should really do it this talkback, don't you think?
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Feb 25, 2008 10:25:24 PM CST
So your internet went out exactly when you were supposed to be h
by looplala
I'm gonna go back to blaming it on NBC. How many things can go wrong on a Monday. And yes savejourneyman.net came back up late afternoon.
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Nice.
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How rude.
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and Anthony Michael Hall do bear some resemblence to each other. And both on shows canceled by NBC. Moral of the story, do not watch any other NBC that has a Hall or McKidd look-alike. :p
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129 to 125. Yeah why not, let's stream again.
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http://tinyurl.com/2tc74d
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I guess people do live in that time zone somewhere. Right?
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made me want eggs, however.
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... after it's been a Red-Assed Dancing Robot!!! Yeah! Baby!! YEAH!!!
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LMAO. Are those sausages or tomatoes? I think sausages.
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Oh that poor show. Always had such promise. Great cast, potential. It could have been better, tried to be, succeeded for a while I thought. They should have went for the big story earlier. Might have been a budgetary thing. But something about it was kinda cool still. Out of their shows, I think I'll miss 4400 a little more.
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LH. "I wanna eat my breakfast...after it's been a Red-Assed Dancing Robot!!!"
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I must go to Wal*Mart for some supplies and stuff. As originally planned. Open 24 hours. Good.
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sharing lolcat links and exchanging text messages about the meaning of My Chemical Romance songs.
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key episodes for the Dead Zone. The episodes I saw were really uneven, it's like they kept trying to retool the show and figure out what they wanted it to be.
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It looks like an infected baboon from some Bodies Revealed exhibit.
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Have a safe trip. Have fun.
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Fly safely. Have fun. Eat Dancing Bacon.
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Stuck with 4400. Good writing toward the end. I was just starting to get into it. I liked where it was going.
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It was wild and less creepy than I thought it would be.
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Anyone else?
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awww...
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Don't encourage me. Sometimes I'm just nuts.
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The curse continues.
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but now I'm hungry too. I don't even eat bacon.
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Not a Terminator thing. I'm just going to be back.
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Really liked it. The audio tour was a little goofy, but informative. I really enjoyed it. SO many people touching the exhibits when I was there, it was really surprising. None of the fabled "leaking" everyone reports. I got the chance to hold a foot at the end(the stuff we were allowed to touch). Very strange feeling. Left a lasting impression on me.
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Grab me a 12 lb jar of pickles?
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I'll do a heart disease study in my neighborhood. 2 MEGA packs should hold most of us for about a week.
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None of that going on at the one I went to. Only thing out of the ordinary is that it was so damn hot in there - those lights were murder. I don't even want to know about the leaking. So was this peer pressure, was everyone holding the foot?
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What did L.H. buy at Walmart? Will he indeed be back? And what was up with the foot-holding. Find out next time on Herc's talkback...stay tuned...
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And a guy who has actually done the plastination (spell?) process answering questions. He had a plastinated liver and a foot. Most people wouldn't touch them. I had it in my hand before I even realized what it was, that I was holding a human foot. Pretty crazy feeling. I handed it to this girl next to me, she held it and you could see this look in her eyes when she realized what it was. Almost dropped it. You could actually push on the tendons a little and the toes moved. They're not hard, it's a very elastic feel.
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Every town those things show up in, some news show features a report that one of the bodies was leaking something. I didn't notice anything, and my first visit was weeks after it arrived.
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Dan meets a hippie who was involved in a crime in which someone dies. Katie finds something out about Livia's past. When Dan is involved in an investigation it causes more problems between Dan and Jack.
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i had to draw one for drawing anatomy. Saw inside their sawed off heads. The formaldehyde smell permeated through my clothes. Did it smell at all at "bodies"..?
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"bringing you one step closer to Skynet since 1991"
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Every show should get the guy from Lost to say that.
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I go there!
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It's a California State Park and the name of a housing development
in the same area.
State Park:
http://tinyurl.com/yo5vxa
Housing development:
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http://tinyurl.com/3ycowv
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Do you think all those outfits are vintage 70s or made new by the costume designers?
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Will Newspapers Survive?
By Jeff Jacoby of The Boston Globe:
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"Who's That Lady" by The Isley Brothers.
Wiki:
http://tinyurl.com/2fdq6m
There's no wiki for the song, but wow those guys have been around
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wow.
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Deep Throat:
http://tinyurl.com/3yr2da
When I was a kid, people were still talking about this movie, years
and years and years later. This film has some of the most interesting
and constantly re-written history. It's getting harder and harder over the years
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Related to "lock and key" parties, but different.
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i wish. wine coolers are hard to come by these days.
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Abby's mom asks if the wine is as good as Blue Nun. Blue Nun is a vintage German wine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Nun
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"Long, cool woman in a black dress" - The Hollies
http://tinyurl.com/lf86g
Overshare #1 -
The Hollies were a weird obsession of mine in my childhood. Lots of
connections with other bands-music. Turned me on to CSNY, Parsons' Project, eventually
even Pink Floyd and Syd Barrett. My first job was in a record store cleaning
used records for store credit, so I used to read the liner notes of everything that went into my stack for the day. I spent a lot of time taking notes and
making connections to construct an odd, personal history of music. I used these
notes to decide what I'd spend my credit on at the end of the week. By the time I
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somehow a bad reaction as citrus?
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love that line..
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I love her (Livia)reaction to finding out what a Key Party is there. Just.. "eww".
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Katie talking to the 2 women, and they're talking about how an "emotional affair" at the workplace is worse than a one night stand after just showing a key party in the previous scene. How things have changed. Swinging was often viewed as a way to keep a marriage exciting back then, now even having a close friendship with a co-worker can be defined (in an Oprahfied world) as a kind of "affair". I'm a move-forward kind of guy, and swinging often makes me think of sweaty scumbags and sloppy drunk women, but I can relate to people who call it "the good old days". I see people romanticize the 80s, and really kind of re-write it completely, so I have to ask myself.. what were the 70s REALLY like? One wonders.
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Katie - "Maybe you should have left it there."
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She's already caught onto how the Journeyman thing works and assures Dan he'll go back to save Abby.
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Passing By - Zero 7
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One of the ugliest cars in history was actually first manufactured on April fool's day,
1970.
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I'm a bit behind. Ohh.. Langley.
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Quartz
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what was their one huge hit post-70s? So what happened to all those records and to all those notes you made?
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"Simple things" I think is their best.
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"Men with guns always want to control the men with ideas."
Man, what a great quote. Is it a different form of an existing
quote? It's one of those things that just stick with you, even makes you
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Shambala - Three Dog Night
http://tinyurl.com/2ay2pv
Love the pic of the band on the right. You'd think there would be at least
ONE Collared jumpsuit
http://tinyurl.com/yttoh3
in the bunch, but no. These guys were CLASS. Not like THESE guys:
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"Eye in the Sky" 1982...biggest hit.
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Stolen at a phone booth. Left them on top, walked away and when I came back 5 minutes later they were gone. We were taking them to a friend's house to copy them cause they were damaged. We were weird. Never got them back, even though my name and number were on the folder.
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That guy in the truck was creeeeeepy.
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once to Garrity when he says he vanishes from time to time and the second time with the group in the cafe when he says he's a time traveler.
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Winterland Ballroom:
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Rock the Boat - The Hues Corporation
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but I can't find it.
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Wonder if it wouldve showed up in other episodes...
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youre doing pretty well without your notes.
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The lack of bras in that era is one of the things I most wish I could have seen
or been old enough to appreciate a little more. *ding ding* We have a winner.
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is a material that among other things is used in microelectronics.
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he was asking about my music notes from my job at the record store.
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Is it Langley? Or some guy who used them to write a novel never crediting the anonymous guy at the phone booth.
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be back...
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too :)
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It would have been nice to see that fleshed out a little more. Maybe they would have. He's not dead in the past.
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ysobttr. Skip that last comment.
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But SO off the mark.
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It's ok, this thing is flying by so fast, it's hard for anyone to keep up.
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for a person on a no-fly list. This episode is full of quotes.
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Not too annoying, nice and short.
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Paris Hilton of the 40s?
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http://tinyurl.com/35p98l
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If anyone does, they'll have deja vu.
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Post like the wind. Thanks for keeping on.
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So was she grabbed and brought here, or is there more to her story? More secrets?
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I know this is the line of a drugged-up bad guy but I love it nonetheless. Alright I'll catch back up with you all again.
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FAMMIT!!! WILL WE EVER FIND OUT???
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http://tinyurl.com/2so22d
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Miracles - Jefferson Starship
http://tinyurl.com/2xc6h2
Sung by Marty Balin. My strongest memory of Balin is the story of how, after leaving the band, his parents placed an ad for him without his blessing in the back of the Rolling Stone. What's funny about this story now is that I can find NO reference
to it, anywhere. But I know it wasn't something made up, as I had read it in multiple
publications. I guess someone, somewhere has a copy of the issue. If anyone can find
a mention of it, anywhere on the net, I'd appreciate confirmation that it didn't
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tata lala
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Dropped a few pre-written comments because I was SO far behind. But I promise.. next week I'll be here and ready before 7.
Another great episode, another great night. -
Have a great week. Seeya next MOONday.
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hehe later loop tata lala...nice ring.
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small bit of the show. The beginning was dense. Well, that was fun again. Even if it was late. Fammit! Dang ISP.
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informative and succinct.
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181 posts worth of extra notes?
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forgot to click on it...will do that now.
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a distinctive voice, not quite a Koppel but unique.
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Is this squash blossom guy? http://imdb.com/name/nm0633604/
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Squash Blossoms. LOL. Has a ring to it, doesn't it? I wonder if it's actual Newspaperspeak for crappy assignment.
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i was thinking more anthony hopkins ala hannibal lecter.. i dont know.. something about when he said "goes well with lamb."
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"it's soooo...squash blossoms"
"dude. they have me on squash blossoms this week."
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and a nice Chianti. *slurpshnorpshlurpschnortslurp*
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I've never seen the movie but I know the line well. Lots of food references in this ep. And it starts with a food critiquing squash blossoms guy. Like a great novel, Journeyman always uses themes woven throughout.
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sounding about Squash Blossoms. Sounds like something someone would do on a glass table.
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That's my guess for Jack's shot.
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A post says bionic woman was officially canceled today but no links.
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dining together. ends with Jack drinking alone.
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Terminator episode. (meh? not too shabby, getting better) And .. get this.. Taxi To the Dark Side. Aired on BBC. I figured I'd have to wait a long time to see that. (Won an Oscar last night)
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NBC doesn't want to risk pissing off the Journeyman fans with something official?
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til then. thanks all.
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They're reconsidering.
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or maybe they arent sick yet of their free rice a roni theyve been getting in the mail.
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Even squash blossoms are edible. Good job putting that together. The dine and dash, the 2 dinners.. the food critic... squash blossoms..
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What is it? I want to see some of those Oscar-nominated shorts and always miss them. Well, have fun and read back if you get the chance during the week.
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no bacon.
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Everyone have a great week.
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Seems to be about torture and a taxi driver in Afghanistan.
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before it wasn't. Maybe NBC is liking the money sold to advertisers for our streams?
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Taxi...one of those uplifting films. ;) Have a good week.
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Why doesn't somebody give Moon her own cable channel? Call it MooNBC or something. I'd subscribe.
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Cliffhanger #1 I did come back. Cliffhanger #2 I did buy things at Wal*Mart. As follows: 10 pairs of socks. 2 seven packs of Fruit of the Loom tm briefs. 5 pairs of jeans. (Why is it a PAIR of jeans or pants? I can't buy ONE pant, can I?) 2 pocket T-shirts. 1 16oz box of aquarium salt. (For my sister.) 1 TUROK PS3 video game. ('Cause I love shootin' shit! Especially if the SHIT is Dinosaurs!! Hoo-Boy!) The trip there and back was uneventful and now I will retire. Until later. Later.
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just because ironic_name is giving you some shit(and I dont know why he does it),I am an "regular"DTV TBer and I supported your "Bring back Journeyman" thing.I respect your good fight,so calm down and have fun guys.The DTV is with you!
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I'm jealous of this thread's longevity. but twas all in good fun. Oleg supports your tenacity!
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I was reading it this morning. Some great stuff in there. You guys have fun. Love ya.
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I never really 'got' journeyman, not that I had a chance.. they showed like 2 episodes here, and gave up. how similar is it to life on mars?
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We are now officially UNSTOPPABLE.
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Not very similar at all. But I love both. Ashes to Ashes is pretty damned good so far. Anything with Gene Hunt is good in my book. I'm one of the few that actually loves the way Life on Mars ended. Too bad we won't get any kind of real ending for Journeyman here. Well, most likely anyway.
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.. He needs to break some balls and protect the city from the scourge of drugs and crime. I bet a spliff offed his mum, that would explain it. Shit, he'd kick the shit out of me.
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I'm gonna check out this save jouneyman website, and dl some episodes http://tinyurl.com/2x2qkl and if you guys at savejouneyman want some Images [cartoony, more realistic] to go with any fanfic stories, just ask. sorry again for being a bitch.
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One of my favorites is:
Gene: Y'know that bloke in the Bible who wanted to stuff a camel through the eye of a needle?
Sam: That would be Jesus ... ?
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all of us poke fun and say shit. It's cool. You got a site with your art?
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"I'm not a religious man Mr Warren - but isn't there something in the Bible that says, thou shalt not suck off rent boys?"
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http://tinyurl.com/yre6h6
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GOOD WORK GUYS KEEP IT UP
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Steven Warren is a bum bandit. Do you understand? A poof! A fairy! A queer! A queen! Fudge packer! Uphill Gardener! Fruit picking sodomite!
He’s gay?
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literally ROFLMAO
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"He's got fingers in more pies than a leper on a cookery course."
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Thanks. Will do. You come back next Monday night at 7pm, too. Ok?
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""The evidence is about as hard as Liberace's dick staring at a naked woman"
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It was great fun.
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I'm not entirely sure yet.
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Good fun for the time between Journeyman episodes. I'm staying positive. I'm convincing myself that there will be more Journeyman. Come along with me, join the fun.
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I want this show back on the air.. BADLY
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great show!Here in Germany we got just the first season.I hope we get more soon.DTV!
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might not want to check out the outtakes video. It might have some small spoilers in it. I had the opportunity to watch it the first time through in a marathon 3 night sessions. Watched the whole series. Really loved it. Then I got lucky and only found out the spin-off, Ashes to Ashes even existed just a few weeks before it started airing. So I have practically a gapless viewing experience. It was cool for once to not have to wait all that time to see a full series. Anyone here who likes Journeyman should give it a shot. Real fun to watch, great characters, great acting, great story.
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Me too. I'm finding it impossible to just let go.
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this weekend, I'd like to do the post-along treatment for the first episodes I originally missed giving that treatment to.
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That if this talkback hits ten thousand posts that Bill Gates will give everybody who posted here an X-Box 360 and an HD-DVD player, Walt Disney Jr will give us lifetime passes to Disneyland, and some Nigerian guy will transfer $53 million dollars into our bank accounts. Keep posting!
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and I love it!But I take a share of the 53mill.!
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about the Nigerian guy. As far as the other stuff goes.. NICE..
well.. The HD-DVD thing won't do us much good. But.. hey.. Disneyland is great!! Costs about 200 per day just to eat, but.. hey.. NO.. I'm not gonna get negative. That sounds like a great deal. Did you need my account number? -
Oh boy. I have some postin' to do. Doesn't that have Tetris?
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I was saying to this guy that I can't wait to get a PS3, and he goes..
"I'm more of a wii guy."
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Also, your SSN would come in handy. And Disneyland isn't that expensive...think my pass was $130...ginormous corn dogs are only like $6.
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this talkback is awesome. bring journeyman back and throw in pullo for a couple of guest appearances. can we actually just take the entire cast of rome and put them in another series about some ancient civilization. have them do some greek mythology or something.
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He travels THROUGH time.
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http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/700000049. Take out the spaces, yada yada. I think some of you guys might find it interesting...
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Very, very interesting. Or is it?
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The real question is, does the "Aushole" community hate Journeyman? If so, we may have a winner.
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Ron Mallet doc is on. He's the guy trying to send information back and forth through time.
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Fingers remain crossed.
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Let's hope the bubble show is Journeyman. The more I read, the more I hear that Ausiello didn't like Journeyman, so I have hope that it's THE show coming back.
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..."According to Jim." What kind of world is this, where crap like this gets ANOTHER year, and "Journeyman" languishes?
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No, seriously, W T F?!?
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STRUCK DOWN!
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I'm off to the U.K. and off the internet for 2 weeks.
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Have a pint for us.
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I kept trying to sign in here and post over the last few days and the site wouldn't log me in. :(
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and has a great two weeks in England.
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According to Jim? Looks like Journeyman did get some press out of the whole deal: http://tinyurl.com/24we5e Here's the Journeyman slide if you don't feel like going through all the rest of the shows: http://tinyurl.com/yogf87
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with Oleg's support, we're on the move. Appreciate the support and. Yet another song reference by yours truly. I never knew this but that song artist is McFadden and Whitehead. One of those duos that are unknown by name but have incredibly famous songs: http://tinyurl.com/25ue7d
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Appreciate the support and the apology but we all know what people say is in good fun. No grudges here.
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assuming I'm able to login again when I next try.
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I have to get my ass in gear for Moonday.
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Slow going.
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I can't be here to do it this time. I won't be anywhere near a computer and I don't have a choice.
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I will be here for the stream but I'm not as talented at talking to myself - with you and L.H. gone. Do you have any links prepared for this week?
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Plans fell through (a good thing, really) and so I will be around. But if anyone wants to post tonight and get things going that'd be great. *whew*
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I'm around. I probably can't even start until this afternoon. Hope I see people here before then. JOURNEYMAN!! Save it. Bring it back!!
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We're waaaaay behind. Scroll down, it's on the right-hand side.
http://tinyurl.com/2dcahm
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What's with all the Moonlight love. I don't see that reflected in other places. I understand the Jericho love, they've proven themselves and the show isn't too bad now. But wow.. Moonlight..Shark?
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On SkyOne: http://tinyurl.com/2qb5xr
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Not as early as I would have liked to get here, but at least I made it. I didn't think I'd be able to this week. SO glad I was able to.
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I was worried I might be alone this week. I have some stuff ready and I'm working on last minute stuff, too. What a week.
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you could make it Gotlik!! I also planned to be here earlier, it's one been one of those days. Looking forward to tonight's ep.
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Thanks.
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Not the music notes (for anyone who has read upthread. :p) I was actually worried I'd be streaming alone this week too.
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This is where that Lost narrator would come in handy. Previously on Herc's talkback, the future looked uncertain... LOL
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It's gotten a ridiculous number of diggs in one day - nice! http://tinyurl.com/2my8w6
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I've got to listen to the rest. Even though I've heard McKidd interview a few times, it's still so odd to hear him speak with his native accent. I know way, way, way upthread someone complained about his accent, but the first time I heard McKidd I was pretty stunned he wasn't American. Had the same thing happen with Hugh Laurie way back.
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into every "previously on..". Great voice. I do it perfect, too.
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Haha. I did mean to ask Gotlik about There Will Be Blood. I somehow totally missed that this is a Paul Thomas Anderson movie and now I'm really wanting to see it.
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Do we know? Very funny you do a good imitation of him. See, now we've veared off-topic ;)
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Kevin Falls was actually a producer on Shark for awhile. I've only caught a few episodes of that show. Moonlight fans are a very motivated bunch. They're on Hey! Nielsen too and quite a few of them were pretty upset when Journeyman started to rise in those ratings. Never seen Moonlight, so I have no idea if it's good or not. Lots of vocal fans though.
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He's, I hear, the original guy at the network who gave the green light to the show, and was soon fired by the network for doing just that. Now they all look like fools, of course.
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This is one of the darker episodes of the series.
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Lost guy must've been pretty happy. He probably got a lot of apology fruit baskets or one of those premium steak gift packages. Or whatever people send other television people to say "We're sorry we fired you and now we're eating crow."
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Dancing bacon. :D
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Mmmm... bacon.
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like bacon. :p
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Now.
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..and I'm almost done. lol
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or only time Dan jumps and is still in motion? He's jogging and when he jumps back in time, he's still jogging. Usually, he's sprawled out somewhere when he gets to whatever era he's going to.
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she doesn't know him yet in this episode. Liked that twist the first time around too.
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Streaming now.
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Summary: In the 1990's Dan finds himself tracking a serial kidnapper named Aeden
Bennett. When Katie gets called into Zack's school, she wonders how much Dan's
traveling is affecting him. Jack is beginning to believe Dan is traveling in time.
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Band's Myspace page:
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A rave (or rave party) is the term in use since the 1980s for dance parties (often
all-night events) where DJs and other performers play electronic dance music, which may
also be referred to as "rave music", with the accompaniment of laser light shows,
projected images, and artificial fog.
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Wiki for album - Violator
http://tinyurl.com/2tj5rl -
http://tinyurl.com/h52l7
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Fox news (?? I know) article about the stupidity of considering
glow sticks and bottled water??? drug paraphernalia in 2002. Crazy stuff.
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..great stuff. "Autonomous Zone" lol.
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Wiki: http://tinyurl.com/zz5zc
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To say the least.
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http://tinyurl.com/359asa
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article - Fox News huh?
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very quick paced, well-done. Then stark contrast with the present. And yeah that travelling a lot line...too funny.
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http://tinyurl.com/ycxmmn
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The guy that plays the pedo realtor is super creepy.
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No. (Clerk to Dan and Katie) Handcuff scene. Great humor injected into this serious episode.
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...is my brother really time traveling?
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Doesn't look too good.
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Hootie and the Blowfish
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You can tell this isn't going to turn out well.
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Crash Test Dummies
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..another clue that someone is controlling all of this stuff.
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The glass globe on the bosses desk, the plastic cup with citrus slices on it.
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It's like a whole new operating system, huh? Wait till you see Windows ME.. wow... what an advancement in blue screens of death. Much smoother.
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http://tinyurl.com/2wcyne
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Premium-rate telephone numbers.
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Some streaming problems. Browser crash - weird. And yeah that moment with Jack saying I never said it was a cabbie was good. Eventually if Journeyman were to continue, everyone in Dan's life would know his secret and someone who shouldn't know would probably find out.
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that time traveling was a genetic thing.
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I guess that's a good thing.
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beat the hell out of '48
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.. those things are cool.
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It's interesting how we the viewers only get to see the frustrating side to Dan's travels and don't have insight into why Livia advises against saving the other girl.
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http://tinyurl.com/2wcyne
oops... did that one too early before. -
Make it hurt!
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Five for Fighting
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keep your head up.. to a few scenes later a teddy bear washcloth to soothe Zach's hand. The contrast of the worlds these Emily and Zach grow up in.
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It flashed for a second while the agent was going through ALL of Dan's private info. Creepy.
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http://tinyurl.com/n9htz
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that moment when he hides so Dan can save him. And Dan spots the cupboard just as he happened to spot the exact place in the wall that Emily was behind is a great contrast too.
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Kinda weak on my part, but at least I was able to do this at all. Great episode, even better second part next week.
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Is gonna make it hard for the sales guys to sell condo ads.... I like it! Love that look on his face. Rabble rouser to the end.
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another great week.
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Reminded me of the old Hulk tv show music for some reason.
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It all gets to her. We see her moment of weakness. Then soon after we see Livia kicking the guy in the park.
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And I'll be able to get here earlier.
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Dan with Zack as a baby.
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They have GOT to bring this back. We need a real second season.
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Don't knock it - thank you. I'm about 10 minutes behind.
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another set comment. When Dan is with Zack in the present, there's a shot of the planets mobile in his room. Then in Zack's baby room, there's a soft stars and other stuff mobile. Nice detail.
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Love it when Katie says Maybe I'm not old enough to understand it...but he'll come home he always does.
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I had one of those rotating light things, too. I think mine had Pooh on it or something. It projected images on the wall, sort of.
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I KNOW I can get here earlier. I'm gonna go watch Breaking Bad now. Great show. Time to eat first though. I'm starvin' now. I think I might run through my google alerts for Kevin Falls/Journeyman and post some of that stuff a little later. Great to see ya, looplala.
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but great cliffhanger. Wonder mistakes Livia has made in her travels that she can say with certainty that messing with the missions never ends well.
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An episode featuring Livia traveling.
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and movie. Winnie the Pooh huh? :p Did we already post the Journeyman comic strips? If not I'll post them and see ya later.
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And maybe we would've gotten to see a bit more of her life in 1948. That was a good detail having the newspaper about Palestine.
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Did she have someone giving her traveling tips or did she have to learn on her own? Anyway, I'll go find those comic strips.
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whenever you get back. You said it helps you not repeat posts? What is that?
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late again!
checking in. missed you guys by an hour!!
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Woah - that's nuts.
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Good to see you. My video was stuttering a lot tonight too.
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sorry im late
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And if it's been already been posted by me...oops. ;) Here are the two Journeyman comic strips: http://tinyurl.com/yszn3u
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than we wanted to be this week. Weird journeyman talkback schedule hell going around. :p
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I read back...would really like to see some cartoony Journeyman art.
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yea..work's been pretty tough.
this episode's pretty dark.
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The scene where Jack and Theresa are eating noodles at the stand outside--I read (or heard in an interview?)that Kevin Falls brought that in to reference Blade Runner. Jack being a cop and all, investigating Dan's travels. Thought that was pretty cool.
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goes between the very dark themes and the humorous. Also lots of continuing plot elements seem to come to a head. Katie's frustration with Dan. Jack's doubts of Dan. Jack's girlfriend's planting more doubts in his head. Also her asking if Dan has any valid research is one of the things that made me think she knows more than she's saying. Also this episode is the beginning of Dan finding out in a very real way that "it never ends well" when you mess with the timeline.
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http://tinyurl.com/2xt7ej
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Good argument between Dan and Livia. He doesnt' heed the warning, but was a great change to see their relationship more than friendlies. To see his character learn even the hard way was great.
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where in the ep was that? Good catch - very cool about what Scott's inspiration was.
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Loved the scene with Dan and Jack.. Dan realizing that he changed the the timeline. Awesome. All that had been gained with Jack lost... because he went off the rails. awesome and sad at the same damn time.
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in all the relationships including Livia and Dan's. We get to see all the havoc and stress this travel business is rendering on everyone's life.
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3/4 of the way... where Jack starts to come around and calls Dan when he's flying the kite. I remember watching it the first time and thinking how cool it would be for Jack to come around and believe Dan was onto somthing.
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That scene is so well-acted. The moment that Dan realizes his brother is trying to be nice about it in his own way and ends up thanking Jack...so very good. The expression on Dan's face right then says it all.
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chills on back of neck moment.
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If I have it turned on, which it is by default I think in Firefox, and I start to type a subject and it's been typed here before, it tries to auto-complete it. So in that way it helps me prevent repeating myself. And when talkbacks get this huge, after this long, it gets hard to keep track.
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we should do something for the last epi.
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Good to see ya.
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heya
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I can't seem to be able to get myself hooked on another show...
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episode 6 is what I would call a WINNER. Holy crap. If you guys have not checked it out, do so. Just a warning, it's some dark stuff. But so well written, so well acted. I'm expecting not to see another season of that one, too.
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What do you have in mind? Something big? Something that would reach the right people at NBC? I'm open to try almost anything.
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It's ok, I caught it. If NBC ultimately drops the ball, we should ALL start working on the sci fi channel. They gotta put all the BSG money somewhere.
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build just here, but I'm not giving up hope. Not yet.
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Gotta run for a while. :(
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i wonder if we can bring those fans in to do something too.
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Ysobttr, I can't seem to get into new shows either. Is this Journeyman Hangover Syndrome?
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see you soon!
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Nothing can take the pain away. except more Journeyman. Need fresh ones though.
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would be up for something big too for the final episode.
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and call me in the morning. Heh - the only cure for JHS (Journeyman Hangover Syndrome).
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Break Bad (v.) 1. to challenge convention 2. to defy authority 3. to raise hell
Chemistry: the study of change. Meet Walter White, a high school chemistry teacher sleepwalking through life when, boom, a terminal diagnosis changes everything. Liberates him. Empowers him to use his chemistry skills anew: to man a rolling drug lab and finance the future for his struggling family. It's an uncontrolled experiment with the American dream. And it finally wakes him up. Breaking Bad: Change the Equation.
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FAmmit!!
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Do you have any ideas for the 13th episode?
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that series looks pretty good.
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needs to go out with a bang. it should involve all Journeyman fans that have been faithfully watching. Since it's coming up soon... maybe if we all called the offices to ask for more episodes at 11pm... or all of us email Zucker for more episodes.. but with the subject title as "moonday" because by now.. "Journeyman" would be tagged as spam... im still thinking...
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what if we sent nuts in.. and.... fammit... it worked for jericho!
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signs on freeway overpasses.
"obama loves journeyman."
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big things for the 13th? Going to have to think on that one. If we're going to email we should all email with different subject lines...they're definitely tagging "Journeyman." Too bad they wouldn't take kindly to "MooNBC" :)
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mccain time travels...so does Journeyman.
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nice!
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even better
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Billboards, only wish we could afford that. How bout we all converge on Rockefeller Plaza? I know also too expensive...still thinking.
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Yes he can. ;) Alright I couldn't resist.
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something having to do with the final episode content? Just found this on wikipedia, isn't related to something big but thought it was cool: "During the Paris flashback scene in Casablanca, Ilsa and Rick are dancing to Perfidia in a night club." I think the Journeyman writers gave a nod to Casablanca and bittersweet goodbyes.
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it should be a surprise to NBC - How do we do that and still let everyone know?
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I suspect they're just waiting for us to go away quietly. New shows are on their minds... crappy ones for sure. They're getting rid of Fall debuts too... new crappy reality shows earlier than other networks reveal theirs... Gotilk's right.. we should focus on scifi or another network entirely.
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where everyone gets a text message and then they all converge on a certain location? Probably not feasible either. Anyway, good night.
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we need to call on the Jman fans on the fringe to start watching the final eps... and think of something diabolical for 13... or post here...
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You may be right about NBC, but I don't think the fans are ready to just go away quietly. ;) Btw, Fox also owns part of Journeyman.
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:D Sounds perfect. Nite again.
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thanks for the posts! and Gotilk! I won't give up either! See you guys for ep 10!
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A big thanks to Gotlik! Thanks to ysobttr too. And now time for some sleep.
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Well?
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im going to have to read up on all these shenanigans when i get home from work!
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And almost TOO much to catch up with. Kinda reminds me of a Lost talkback sometimes.
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No official word yet. Last I heard they were sorting out music licensing issues.
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Is John Carpenter selling his THING on ebay? Wow. Times ARE hard.
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where Dan saves a man's family from a sub prime mortgage. He writes a story about it in the paper and saves the US economy. I know, dreamin' again.
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I'm starting to see in several posts on the internets that Gary Gygax, creator of Dungeons & Dragons has, according to one quote "failed his saving throw against death" can anyone confirm or deny this as a bad joke?
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http://tinyurl.com/2qwexd
http://tinyurl.com/3x2ncf
http://tinyurl.com/25q9gt
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..last night. What a loss. We used to play D&D in all-nighters fueled by Mt Dew and Doritos.
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RIP Dungeon Master.
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What a complete bummer. I guess my old friends and I need to get together and play now in his memory. It's been a while, a long while.
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I know people who would give up food to buy the books.
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.. not many can say that. But having said that, it was our first and last date. Wasn't my type anyway.. blonde.. kinda ditzy.. But being able to say I actually DID that has always been kind of a badge of honor for me. And there were 4 dumbfounded witnesses as well. I always thought it would make a great song name. "I took a cheerleader to a D&D game"
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Good to see this still going strong.
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I found a way back! Using someones old laptop with an erratic wireless connection. But it gets the job done! I wish I would have had this last night. Anyway, here I am! I'm in England! I haven't been to London yet. Just went through it. Probably will go there this weekend. I have been to some pubs and drank some beers. I had Cod & Chips (fish & chips) at the Globe Inn in Somerton, Somerset. Loved it! Loved the beer too! Gonna try for Stonehenge and London this weekend. See ya later, if I can.
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if you guys liked the show, good on ya for getting this talkback into the top ten. But it's 3/4/8 after five o'clock, does anybody know where the New Amsterdam article and talkback is? I thought AICN was all about these fantasy shows.
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How cool you got to check in from England! Sounds like a great time so far. Cheers and have a beer for us - have fun this weekend. I suddenly remembered something else I did when I was England, maybe it was your fish and chips mention. But I think it's too far from where you'll be. I got to see the White Cliffs of Dover and stand atop them looking over the water. The view was stunning and then of course there was a pub at the top of the cliffs where the locals "encouraged" me to have a real Guiness. And by encourage, I mean, it very well might be the law over there. :p
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I searched for an Amsterdam talkback and didn't see one. Don't know much about how quickly talkbacks go up as I haven't been at this site all that long. Perhaps someone else here could say?
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Thanks for coming in and saying hi. Be sure to come back next Monday at 7pm pacific.
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No way! You found a way on. Gotta give us your full report when you get back.
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I did notice someone upped (to torrent sites, Usenet, etc) a leaked copy of the pilot a LONG time ago and I never grabbed it. I'll definitely watch tonight. An immortal story, huh? I'm surprised no coverage of it here. I haven't heard anything BAD about it.
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Yeah, very sad news.
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awesome! Check out the Underground while you're at it!
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I was never an avid D&D player, though I did try it out at the request of friends. I must say that cheerleader D&D bragging rights is pretty good. I can relate to the experience of bringing a guest from a totally different school scene to a party...been there.
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Gycax's colleague Dave Arneson will be on Slice of SciFi.
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you can vote in that TVGuide poll more than once. :D
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I gave it a try. It could get better but I wasn't blown away or anything. There are some interesting elements but I have to say it's not as well-done as Journeyman. Seems like a fantasy spin on Law on Order. I'll give it a few more tries. No cure for the Journeyman hangover just yet.
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Law & Order. :p
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Yeah, I know what you mean. At times it almost felt like they were aping Journeyman a bit. Especially in the second episode. I *like* it. But no love yet after the second one. My favorite parts were the odd relationship with his son and the encounter with the aged, old lover. And his dog(s) is AWESOME! I have a Rotty mix and she's the best dog in the world.
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Tomorrow I'm going to Bath, Bristol, and Cardiff. Then back around for Stonehenge on Sunday. I'll catch London next weekend. Thanks for the advice and the good cheer! You know, jetlag is kind of like time travel. But with a headache. Okay, it's exactly like time travel. L.H.Puttgrass, Amateur Journeyman.
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LOL L.H. on the jetlag comparison. And wow, what a weekend! I remember Bath was quite impressive. Is the Cardiff visit a nod to Torchwood? :p
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You got it exactly Gotlik it's the life of the main character in Amsterdam that's most interesting. I'd have to second the dogs and the moment with the artist as the best of the show so far. I kept trying to think of where I'd seen something like that before - it seemed so familiar. And I remembered there was a Torchwood ep where Jack had a similar experience: I think the episode is "Small Worlds." Otherwise the cases they solve, so far...ok, not great.
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Anyone streaming?
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don't know if it's been posted here or not: http://tinyurl.com/3azfsr
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Looking forward to seeing Blowback again after re-watching the rest of the episodes.
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hope all is ok with you.
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But I can't stay up that late and this laptop has a wobbly wireless connection and some missing keys to boot! Saturday we went to Bath. Toured the Roman Bathes. Really cool! Dem Romans knew some shit. We took too long in Bath. It was dark and raining when we got to Bristol. Didn't, couldn't see much. Got wet, mostly. Went to Cardiff (Welsh- Caerdydd) that night for our reserved rooms at the hotel. Sunday we toured Cardiff Castle. Lots to see there. Very cool. Beautiful architecture. Interesting history. Google it. Cardiff itself is a very beautiful city. Loved the seaside areas. We saw the Millennium Stadium. Very big, but closed on Sunday. About 4pm we left Cardiff to go to Stonehenge. We were trying to outrun the bad weather that was coming. Had to make our borrowed Tom Tom take us to Bath and then to Southampton. I couldn't program it for Stonehenge so I used that trick to get to the road that I knew Stonehenge was on. Once we were on the road we just followed the signs to the 'henge. It was still Sunday. So Stonehenge was closed. Lots of people were parked on the side of road, taking pictures. All of the fences were locked. They had a guard in a hi-viz yellow raincoat standing next to the 'henge. That's why I have "Super-Telephoto Lens with Tilt LCD Screen and Image Stablization"!! Even in the growing darkness, with even darker clouds, rain, and wind threatening on the horizon and overhead, I GOT MY PICS!! Over the fence, tilt the screen down, zoom in, and click away! It got too dark and rainy, so we headed home to Somerton. My friend had saved the position of our house on the Tom Tom and called it Home. So I popped that in and we took off. I guess you can't have 2 entries with same name on the Tom Tom. His Home entry wasn't there. We ended up at the home of the guy who lent us the Tom Tom! After driving through all kinds of backwoods roads out in the boonies, trying not to think about the wind and rain and that American Werewolf movie. Anyway, we all had a good laugh and made it back safe and sound. All and all, a pretty damn good weekend out and about! L.H.Puttgrass, signing off.
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How cool is it to have it lead you "Home" to the seaside city of cardiff. Mine says "Home" is near westside city of compton... I want to trade.
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Thanks for the update-'henge must've been awesome to see up close.
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Where's the Gman?
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FYI, It's Got ilk, not Got lik.
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Continued from "Emily".. Dan actually thinks about killing a kid. all in context though which made sense, pretty heavy and excellent.
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EXCELLEEEEEEENT.
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sucked.
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I've been posting it wrong. :( I did stream but got pulled away before I could post. Heya ysobttr.
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Adrian Bennett's tats explained here: "Spider within a Web" - Can indicate a drug addiction. It can also mean that the wearer is a thief. If the spider is shown moving upwards it means the wearer is still an active criminal, if the spider is moving downwards it means that the wearer is intending to leave the thief's way of life;
"Stars" - stars commonly represent time served; each point indicates a year served in jail or if stars are tattooed on knees it means you bow to no authority. (Bennett had some on his neck); "Skulls" - these are usually worn by high ranking gang members, interpreted to mean a murderer. "Snakes" - a snake around the neck/shoulders mean that the wearer feels that the Soviet/Communist party system still has a hold on them, still adversely affecting their lives. -
I've spelled it wrong too.
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Unusual to not see him post on Monday.
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NBC has yanked Journeyman from it's online episode list at NBC.com!! Shit!!
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Since they had already made it impossible to choose an episode. Anybody...
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From England!
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From Britain!!
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From the United Kingdom!!!
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From the Fucking Magic Kingdom!!! Aww, fuck it.
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Thank you for holding down the fort here last night! I had something unavoidable come up.
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Now why don't I ever have vacations like that? :p Does sound like a movie! Bet those pictures will look unbelievable when you get them back. When I was at Stonehenge it was threatening to rain but not like that! The pictures look all dramatic because of those foreboding clouds in the sky over the stones.
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No idea about the G-man. Was it the constant misspelling of your name? :p Did someone bring fruit? Was it the shoes? It's always the shoes!
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I think NBC took that off last week. Can't remember exactly when.
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looplala? ysobttr? What happened Monday? Has NBC finally pulled the plug on JM? Maybe I should've jumped the fence at Stonehenge and cursed NBC while standing in the center of it. It could've worked. It could happen.
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I lost a cable here and connectivity at JUST the wrong time this week. Of course, finding out it was a cable was dumb luck as I have no way of testing cables here. I was very NOT on this series of tubes we call the Internets for a little over a day. I am back now and I promise to be here in FULL FORCE next week. Good job to everyone who showed this week and I promise not to let anyone down next week. Love ya all. Love Journeyman. If anything similar happens next week, I'll stick wires in my brain and jack in at the phone box down the street. lol
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but hey that would've gotten some attention. :p
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Still no formal announcement. Still way too much reality tv. That's to answer the question as to whether something official happened.
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Was that cable shipped from NBC Universal by any chance? LOL. Really good to see you.
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Because of everything that pulled me away from here last night. Anywhere I can see it online? And my apologies on the Gotlik not Gotilk all this time. And L.H., what time is it over there??? Isn't it some odd hour of the a.m.?
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Glad that it was only cable and connectivity that stopped you on Moonday Gotilk! Hope all is well for next week! Ach! Pay yer bills man! Sadly..I came to the sad realization that I can't do what you do and come up with wee gems of Jman trivia... aye.. i am only a follower and a leprechaun all of a sudden.
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http://tinyurl.com/2svrla
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7:00 pm.
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12:54pm.
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How's life in Pacific time?
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L.A. currently 59 degrees, cloudy... breezy. Other than standing right in front of the 'henge.. or watching a brand new episode of Journeyman, no where else I'd rather be right now.
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Thanks for the photo link. Unbelievably beautiful. Found this one too: http://tinyurl.com/2pum53
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LOL. Sucker got stepped on too many times I guess. Had to drag a computer through the house and plug the router into the wall socket with a short cord, then another short cord into the computer from the router. Worked fine, so that's how I figured out it was a cable problem. I didn't feel like terminating the new cable myself so I grabbed a 50 footer already terminated. Man, I can't wait for FTTP(FIOS if you're a Verizon lover). I was just reading a msg from a guy saying he's getting 20mb/20mb connection tomorrow. That's insane. They don't let you run servers though. :(
So anyways... How is everything with you guys? I just read in that new talkback about the on the bubble shows and Journeyman isn't on either list. That could be good news or REALLY bad news. As in, it's so dead we aren't even mentioning it. But hey, at least we'll still have more REALITY TV and plenty of crap sitcoms. It felt a little better today watching a fairly decent Torchwood. But it was kinda weird in places, like they hired a new sound guy and editor this week or something. The new episode of New Amsterdam was really good. Probably won't be back now that I'm interested in it. Nice little surprise at the end, too. It's turning out to be a fairly interesting show.
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It's ok, man. People do that a lot. Gotlik Gotmilk.. gotlip.. gotik.. you name it, I've seen it. I try not to correct it when I see it cause it's not really a big deal. The way I avoid getting people's names wrong here (I used to ALL the time) is copy/paste. That way I don't have to think about it. Kind of a cheat, huh? But you guys? I know your names.
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I've been looking for a video of it. Just HD so far, and I'm running out of HD space now. So I'm trying to find an xvid of it or something. I want to see the POV cam footage of the launch. I heard it was spectacular.
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Did we crack the top talkbacks this week while I wasn't here?
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DOES NOT cheet on his wife.
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Didn't break the top ten while you were gone though. Im just doing my touch and go posts. and just kidding about the cable. Good to have you back! Have to go to work now. but one more post before I go...
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Hey Just saw this post on savejourneyman.net : Join in our surprise campaign event. On Thursday, March 13th, send a fax to the networks and ask them to renew Journeyman. Tell them them why you love the show, tell them why it's garnered this much fan attention and tell them to leave the light on for Journeyman. We've got fax numbers, instructions and even sample faxes (if you're short on time). We're also asking that you tell at least one other Journeyman fan about Fax Day by sending an email, sending a PM, putting up a post or even the old-fashioned phone call. We'd like to keep track of how many people participated in Fax Day, so let us know you've sent a fax by posting (on savejourneyman.net). FAX today! Go here for fax numbers:http://tinyurl.com/2axgk7
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Just do it. Use a gigantic marker so they'll read it right away. Most likely the fax number will be on the sheet, so be nice.
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There's always kinkos. Do they read your faxes before they send em?
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I never thought about that. Probably depends on how much time the clerks have on their hands. Wow...I've sent many a fax at the UPS store too. Good thing there's online faxing these days.
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I have to say that even if no one's reading those things, it's good to still let NBC know we haven't slunk away.
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this past Monday as far as know. I got pulled away too that night. But I must say that no one can find trivia like Gotilk.
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I saw one video of it, not a great one but the beginning was pretty impressive. http://tinyurl.com/2sl4db The HD files don't seem that big. One site had smallest file at 60 MB.
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Candorville creator interview. The guy who did those Journeyman comic strips: http://tinyurl.com/38hyb7
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http://tinyurl.com/2end3x
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Anyone else plan to be here? I'll be here live this time if I have to string two cans together and scream TEE-CEE-EYE-PEE!!!! at the top of my lungs.
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I mean to say I've been a bit out of the loop in regard to Journeyman for a little while now. But I'll be here this weekend. Got some good news, too. Not everyone will find this interesting, of course, but I have to say it. I'm already, after only 3 days, over 3000 words into my next novel. Fun stuff. If anyone wants to give me some tips after the first draft is done, please let me know. There are some really smart people here, with good taste. Couldn't find a better place for a good honest opinion.
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The one I missed was Blowback, right? And that was 10. So it's "Home by Another Way", right? Good episode.
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On Christmas Eve the newspaper is hit by layoffs and Dan's new mission involves saving it. Meanwhile, Katie deals with the aftermath of Aeden's home invasion, and Jack and Theresa get startling news.
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I'm here.
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Anyone around? I'm almost afraid to scroll back and see how many times I've posted it. Can't wait for tomorrow.
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Is that an "issue" here, or is it ok for TV?
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The Lost people did it, so what the heck?
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Bittorrent for episode 11, Home By Another Way:
http://tinyurl.com/2sln32
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Wish there was a way to give certain people a heads up.
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I see we've popped up there already. Anyone watching yet?
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About an hour. Come on in and post. And if I don't see anyone until tomorrow, have a good night.
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I hadn't heard anything positive or negative.
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Fat fingers again, I guess.
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Come on in.
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Wish more would have come in, but it's still early Monday. Hope to see everyone this evening. 7pm pacific, 10 eastern.
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Be here or be somewhere else. Hopefully here. In any case, we deserve a full season 1 at the very least. Let's make it happen.
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I gotta get a bit of sleep now that I'm home. I've made someone promise to make sure I'm up early so I can prepare the best ever stream-along-of-consciousness.
I like that name.
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Get on in here.
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Have a great day.
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to all Journeyman fans.
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I'm going to bed for real this time. Have a great day.
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I was just reading that Regal cinemas story and thought to myself... you know what Cinemas with digital systems need? Live feeds of episode premiers. Can you imagine the audiences that would show up for a new episode of a show like Journeyman or Lost? The system is there. They could charge a discounted price. They could air the episodes a little early or a day early in some cases. The networks make some extra money, the theaters make some money, and we get to enjoy a truly communal experience instead of relying on places like the Internets only. Can you imagine how fun that would be? And it solves a few of the revenue problems the networks are worried about. The digital projection quality at Regal is beyond passable. The 3d films I've seen there have been bright, high contrast, few artifacts, high resolution and extremely crisp. Perfect for a show like Lost with a huge, dedicated fanbase. Just a thought. See everyone later... I hope.
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carrying a sign declaring "Long Live Journeyman!" Nah...that didn't happen. Other than that not much news at all.
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The top talkback has only 163 posts. Could happen. You never know.
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It's neck and neck over at this site's poll for best drama: http://tinyurl.com/3y68sy
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would've been the best publicity stunt ever. No one would even remember the Jericho thousands and thousands of pounds of nuts. Of course it would've involved some hefty legal fees and a pretty unpleasant rest of the stay in England. Not to mention a possible arrest and losing of one's job...
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I think I missed which Regal story Gotlik was referring to but the state of network television needs to be shaken up. Several years ago when another of my favorite shows was being cancelled, I had talked with friends about the idea of having screenings in theaters. Having pilots in theaters seems like a great idea to me. Pilot marathons all over the country? Or pairing pilots with movies of similar content? Pilot festivals.
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Actually a really, really friggen brilliant idea. Let 'em in for 2 bucks. They'd spend tons on 20 dollar popcorn anyway. Hell, a buck. People would take time to see a pilot or maybe even two. But once a show is established, people would line up for an early Friday night episode release. Lost would bring in crowds, right the heck now.
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Not much time left. I'll be in and out.
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I'm actually almost done with King's "on writing" and it's been a huge inspiration. VALIS is barely cracked still and I just found Rant which had been missing for days. (hardback, too.. man that freaked me out)
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Waiting.
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I'm trying to find my next.
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My favorite so far is Sophie's World. Anyone find any good history of philosophy books? A lot of them are very clinical and stuffy. I want something more along the lines of "for dummies" without the actual yellow "look at me, I'm an idiot" cover.
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Congrats on getting that work done on your novel Gotlik!! What's it about? Depending on timing, I'd be happy to give some tips.
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That interview with the comic artist on savejourneyman was pretty good.
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That's what happens when you write a post. Stop. Do something else. Come back and hit enter, before refreshing.
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What if, in the process of sending messages to the future hoping for a reply (using that satellite idea I had), someone actually met up with not one, but numerous time travelers. And (along with a few other shockers) they turned out to be operating a little beneath the law. Sort of pranksters. What if they did this stuff all the time, right under our noses, and we had no idea? And the only other "what if" I'm willing to reveal is... "what if you found out that every time they pulled one of these *pranks* , an entire new universe existed and left all the millions of others out there in the ether, still running.. still continuing on without the changes the pranksters made?"
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1. A comic artist to do the goofy, 1960s comic in the story.
2. A editor. I get the feeling this thing is going to be epic.
3. Someone to read the first 10,000 words or so and give me some tips on what works and doesn't work. Sort of an editor, but before an editor. :)
Bonus fourth need!
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Any good? Another thing I can say is that a TON of people read the guy's accounts of his encounters and try the thing themselves. This results in some really interesting meetings between characters in alternate universes. Let's just say that a LOT of internet geeks become business leaders, world leaders, etc. There's overlapping, travel between alternates, battles between pranksters for ultimate timelines, murder, resurrection.. and most importantly of all... LOVE. lol
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This should prove to be interesting.
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existed. That's interesting. Google Music! How could I have missed that?
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recently. But I did read a book awhile back: Zen for Beginners. I think that Beginners is a series of books like the Dummies one. Maybe they have one on philosophy? It wasn't greatly in depth though. It was a comic (as in graphic not as in haha) guide. That makes it sound more like a storybook, but it wasn't.
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I'm twistin' in the wind.
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No refresh. Behind on posts. Rinse and repeat. All that. Wikipedia down? It's the talkback curse for sure. Here's a link to the amazon description of that Zen book. Looks like they have a Satre, Kierkkegard (hardest name to spell), Philosphophy and quite a few other "for beginner" books. http://tinyurl.com/2vly9f
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done? I'm sure there'd be all sorts of fuss about cutting into DVD sales or DRM or whatever else they use to justify things.
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Which is worse on Monday. No Wikipedia or no TinyUrl? I'm going to go with TinyUrl b/c without that posting links would be quite impossible. Is there any other site that shrinks urls...just in case. You never know what each Monday is going to bring.
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I'm liking the sound of that book immensely. Print out this page and mail it to yourself. Cheap copyright. ;) I'm fairly decent at editing but I've never tried anything on the level of a book.
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wild
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haven't tried any of these out yet. Just doing a search quickly: http://tinyurl.com/349o7x
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I know for sure that tinyurl being down would be worse. Wiki being down has actually allowed me to discover some things I hadn't noticed before like google music.
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who knew?
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Some dudes sitting around talking about Journeyman. One thing that made me take a double-take. Was New Amsterdam really cancelled before it aired??? http://tinyurl.com/2tjb3f
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Much fun to be had here in this talkback.
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Journeyman still alive in this talkback. Good work people....Now let's hope NBC brings it back.
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Now I have so many questions about Gotilk's book venture but I don't want you to reveal too much online for your sake. Maybe that makes me too cynical or suspicious of people. Does it? I don't know.
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If you want to stream Journeyman tonight, here are the links: http://tinyurl.com/2thvwx and http://tinyurl.com/2r3oym We follow along here as we stream and post episode trivia (Gotilk does most of that).
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countdown to ep 11
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just read an article about the lead actor in Amsterdam. Also foreign like McKidd. but he's Danish. Won a few of the Danish equivalent to Oscar...
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The footnote-a-rama to do along with the downloadarama.
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on ebay. The one that's on the coffee table in the opening scene.
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taste like mild licorice. Used as breath fresheners in restaurants all over India.
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During the opening scene, NBC ran a little graphic at the bottom saying "NEXT MONDAY:
Clash of the Choirs!" I remember wanting to throw my TV out the window.
"And now, the purest manifestation of NBC's lack of committment to quality, scripted
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Merry christmas indeed.
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http://tinyurl.com/2srv6h
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had me cursing the TV too. It did well in ratings too didn't it? Btw, the fennel seed comment was in reference to the cookies Katie's baking.
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The movie playing on the Vasser's little TV.
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Not the first time we've seen her. Oh and yeah, Fennel seeds. I used to have that stuff growing across the street from my house. Place smelled like licorice all the time.
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Actually exists. Wild.
http://tinyurl.com/35ebex
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No Stayin Alive though.
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Lots happens there.
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"The Christmas Song" by Gloria Gaynor
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Should have been a hit. lol
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Looks yummy.
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I do not eat dogs, I swear.
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in another ep?
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oops
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Jingle Bells - Gwedolyn Coates
The only reference I could find for this artist is related to
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from Dan revealing his Dad was about to leave the family (in the past) to his Mom coming to the Vasser's Christmas party. Just one of the things the Journeyman people do well consistently.
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Chic - Freak Out
http://tinyurl.com/2msfrh
Seeing Bernard Edwards and Nile Rogers just JAM together is like nothing
you have ever seen before. If anyone thinks those sounds from the 70s and 80s, even
Madonna and Bowie, were "manufactured" sounding, it wasn't because some kind
of computer was doing it, or some kind of cheating was going on. It was because these
two, along with others(including Omar Hakim), were FUCKING PERFECT players. Perfect,
period. They are one of the most underrated groups in history, and are responsible for
2 decades of hits. Their own and many others. INXS, Bowie, Madonna, the list keeps
going. We lost Bernard Edwards, unfortunately many years ago.
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Good to see you back.
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you grew up near fennel. I wouldn't even know what the stuff looks like if not in a spice jar. I did a search for fennel cookies. Apparently, not as rare as I thought. http://tinyurl.com/2kmm85
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licorice. Nice smell when you don't smell it every day. But I love licorice now. Especially the ice cream. If you ever make it to Claremont, CA. Right across from Rhino records in old downtown Claremont is an Ice Cream place that sells licorice ice cream. Best ice cream I've ever had.
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so many questions?
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episode. So I'll just say right now that this episode is great!
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http://tinyurl.com/2vleet
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Having your dad wink wink at you thinking you're cheating with your ex. Now that's awkward.
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Wish my dad was on the 4400.
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never licorice. I didn't try the lobster ice cream in Maine but my friends did. They said it was wonderful.
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.."grow a pair"
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Wow. Fishy and salty ice cream. Not sure I'd be up for that one. I love weird food. But that may be a bit too much.
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wrapped in pastachios. Hmm. How do you wrap something with pastachios?
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The look on his dad's face indicates he's a bit freaked out by the whole thing. Wonder if he knows something.
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that entire conversation with Dan? Purposefully? By accident?
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is kind of a.. I'm not saying it.
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and thinks Jack is playing into Dan's "delusions". I worked with a guy once who actually looked into his fiance's family's mental health history. He found out his actual fiance' had a history of mental illness. Then he found out she was pregnant. Then a few days later, cops showed up at the store and the boss did not. Turns out he took a baseball bat to her. Not nice. She lived, but it turns out he was the nuts one. Funny how things work out that way sometimes. I think it's a little nutty to actually DO that, to look into a person you "love"'s history to make sure you're not passing down the "depression gene" or something. Reminds me a bit of eugenics.
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Frank Vasser resets his watch. Interesting detail. Where was he that he had to reset the watch. As usual, I'm running a little behind Gotilk.
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Establishing Dan's presence at NASA...(Kennedy Space Center)
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"Makin' It" by David Naughton
Naughton first became widely known as a result of his singing and dancing appearances
in Dr Pepper TV commercials. He starred in the sitcom Makin' It and hit the Billboard
Top Ten in 1979 with the show's theme song, also titled "Makin' It."
http://tinyurl.com/2tvbu8
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in his father's footsteps? Would he feel more and more like an outsider in his own house. This episodes speaks to how much is personal decision and how much is outside forces in a person's life.
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I think different people get different commercials at different points. That and it started to stutter a bit a little while ago. Has it been smooth for you?
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is just breaking boundaries, if she's feeling insecure because of the pregnancy or if it's something more that she's onto who Dan actually is. That story of the person you knew - how awful to have a thing like that happen. Some messed up people in the world.
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I just hope-wish that we see how this whole thing would play out. Like Livia said , "maybe we can't be with other people". Not sure if that's an exact quote. But you get the gist.
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I forgot the girlfriend uses the sweater excuses to invade the privacy of the Vassers. Can't believe Jack takes that so well. I would think he would run even before the pregnancy conversation.
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I've known people who do credit checks on people they're dating... google searches... etc.
Jeeze. Just get to know someone. You know? People DO change and those people that did that had some skeletons in the closet. Some with a little fleshy bits on them still, too. -
Going well. It's been a good week. How the heck are you?
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That's it. Christmas episode, yes. Typical, of course not. Another great episode of a
great show that deserves a complete first season and a second season at the very least.
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This is what Katie's future could look like if Dan continues his traveling.
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Anyone going to stick around for a bit? I'll be in and out.
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strong. But what a strain. I still need to read the Time Traveler's Wife. I heard it was pretty good.
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Love the 40s attire on her. It suits her.
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This episode is all about making decisions whether to be there for family and loved ones. Wish we would've gotten a little more of why Livia went from the place of doubt to saying yes to a marriage proposal.
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Did you mean Jack and his girlfriend Gotilk?
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We've got about 60 posts till number one.
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How many total now? 3258? Wow.
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I have to say this isn't the strongest episode of the series, but I think it was purposefully done so that it gave a nod to classic TV show Christmas episodes. But it went many steps further. Everything at the end appears to be tied in a neat little bow, but there are so many questions hanging about how long those happy moments can last, how can Dan and Livia sustain their lives and still do what they do, will Dan be able to take a different path than his father did...
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is playing on the TV in the kitchen at the Vassers while Katie's baking up a storm at the beginning of the ep? Wow...nice run-on sentence there.
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I think it's the same one in this episode. Ebay listing: http://tinyurl.com/2xylpu
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I was trying to remember. Wasn't there an episode of Journeyman that has green beer?
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I think I found it in the credits: Miracle on 34th St.
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Great Christmas movie.
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But I'm at work, blech.
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Wiki's back up. Miracle on 34th St.: http://tinyurl.com/2k7oh9
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about the Miracle on 34th St. Oops.
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Shame you're working. Is that working late or are you in some other timezone altogether? Btw, you can get to Journeyman episodes anytime though if you want to see them later.
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through my stuff. It's pretty rare to see a big site like that go down these days.
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It's getting pretty depressing out there. I'm starting to wonder if there's any hope left at all. Gotta do more.
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Here in Austin. I do have the last 2 eps of the season on my DVR. Could NOT erase them *sniff*
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not in the U.S. but in other parts of the world (asia, etc.) because one country was trying to block videos from being seen there and it ended up affecting the whole network.
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Yep. Had an effect on the rest of the world, too. Somehow. I think it had something to do with DNS. They somehow inadvertently screwed with something they were not supposed to and blacked it for the world for a little while.
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I guess there were too many videos on youtube saying bad things about the wrong candidate. The wrong candidate being the one with the power to control the internet in Pakistan.
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Another show they will rip from under us just when it gets interesting.
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Just for fun.
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Hope this doesn't annoy anyone. I want a bit of attention to Journeyman tonight, and dag-nabbit, I'm gonna get it.
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First song of the episode:
Ah-ha - Take on Me
http://tinyurl.com/27bpbk
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Zorro mask?
He gets up in the auto repair shop wearing a Zorro mask.
Significant? Not sure.
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I have about half the season on my DVR. There should be some new word for that. DVR sentimentality? Digital Hoarding? Tivo Stockpiling?
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from Toy Story. The character is a Sherrif.
http://tinyurl.com/2dmq93
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Woody is voiced by JIM Hanks, Tom's brother in video games and spin-off tv shows based on
Toy Story. He does other Tom Hanks fill-in work in films(double work)
as well as video games based on other Tom Hanks films like the Polar Express.
http://tinyurl.com/2zawdx
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The Golden Gate Bridge wiki:
http://tinyurl.com/5maou
Documentary about the high rate of Suicides on the bridge,
featuring cameras trained on the bridge 24/7.
http://tinyurl.com/2hv74e
Very interesting but controversial documentary. Can be hard to watch at
times, especially if you've lost anyone you care about to suicide. (in my case,
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They were all posted to USENET recently. (shhhhh)
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I thought so.
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reuters says it was "because traffic had been routed according to erroneous Internet protocols."
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The Kowalchuk family moved from the Ukraine in 1971 (based on the article being
written in 1989, according to the Examiner writer Dan speaks to, Nancy Stokes.. first appearance) one year after
the city of Prypiat was built (to the best of my research) in the
Ukraine to accomodate the workers of the fated Chernobyl
power plant and their families. She also mentions Siberia, which to many is to
this day considered mostly a cold, bleak destination for Russian political prisoners, in spite of it's vast, diverse population and geography.
Chernobyl:
http://tinyurl.com/n2hba
Prypiat:
http://tinyurl.com/3a72e7
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Russian Brides!
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First mention (that I know of) in the series of the Thurn-Tippet Group, which
Langley worked for before working at Lawrence Livermoore. The Thurn-Tippet group
is not real as far as I can tell, but the Livermore lab IS.
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Couldn't find anything from the era, anyone know? There was a game called
ExterminATION for the ps1. But nothing I could find before that. Young Jack
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GFNG0 bomber has some similarities to the Unabomber, who was also a Neo-
Luddite terrorist/bomber.
Unabomber-Ted Kaczynski:
http://tinyurl.com/e7rfo
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Before it was cool. lol All that new neo-luddism just aint the same as it used to be.
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http://tinyurl.com/2yroe7
(is this the song in the gas station in 2000 when Dan is talking to
Livia?) Never let you go, eh? Heh. Appropriate, wouldn't you say. Man,
that Dan is a strong man to resist what I would call the "Livia Urge"
you can see in his eyes (and the words of a few talkbackers) a few
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In that article it said it was cancelled before it aired. Did you hear that anywhere else?
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For Rent signs have what look like real numbers on them, but oddly the
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Looks like it's predestined to die. Sad, really. I was really getting into it. Not as much as Journeyman, but it's good. Decent.
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Steven's apartment. What is the music he's listening to? Sounds like
Philip Glass. Maybe even the Kronos Quartet.
Philip Glass:
http://tinyurl.com/oufra
The Kronos Quartet:
http://tinyurl.com/37tbmj
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More on the "Godo Metric" (perhaps?)
L. Vila and L. Godo. On fuzzy temporal constraint networks. Mathware and Soft computing, 3:315--334, 1994
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predestined to die? Now that's irony.
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One of my favorite lines, mostly because of my personal experience as
written up in a Livejournal group called "Dear Tomorrow" a few years ago
which invited people to write up their messages to be sent on the KEO satellite.
My experience involved my sending of an invitation to time travellers to meet
me at a specific place and time. (yes, a bit nutty) My "meetup" was uneventful other than a
young couple that kept looking at me. They had weird shoes. Someone commented
on my post, saying
"it's always the shoes, isn't it?"
So when I watched this
episode, it was really kind of freaky until I realized maybe someone was
googling "time travellers" and found my group when they were researching for
the show. Either that or complete coincidence. Probably the latter.
(the livejournal group is defunct.. I can no longer locate or recover it
but still have the graphics and a few of the texts I wrote there)
KEO:
http://tinyurl.com/2d7auf
EDIT: Also gets a little nod in the book I'm writing. Fictionally re-created the LJ Dear Tomorrow group in the book, except this time the main character gets a LOT of people doing exactly what he did. Hijinks (hijinx?) ensue. -
http://tinyurl.com/2hxzbr
Who knew a performer that seemed to be rather timeless would sound so dated, so soon? Not bad or anything, it just seems a bit dated already. -
A pain in the ass, like many can be, but with his
heart in the right place, in the end, every time. And it even becomes more obvious
a little later on, in what I would say is one of the strongest dramatic relationships
(and performances) on the show.
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The "I like your shoes" comment by cleaned-up present-day Steven was code for
"I can't tell you what I know, but WE know." Steven owes a lot to
Dan, and to walk away with a lie would have been too much for his
conscience. It's clear he was nervous when Dan asked him about
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Great ending. Good to see the brothers bond again. Maybe even more than
they ever have before. Family is good, huh? There are a ton of "family shows"
that on the outside spout the virtues of marriage, family and a sense of
"home", but this show was the real deal. It managed to succeed in being some
of the best of both genres, showing family shows how it can be done without being cheesy while showing that sci-fi can have broad appeal and attract viewers that
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Another?
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Yep. And they killed it early. Funny and sad.
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Man, that actually does bug me. I loved the show Spaced. Very funny stuff and if you loved Sean of the Dead, you MUST watch it. They need to get the original guys on board. McG seems like a coke-addled over-achiever.
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but that "Random Shoes" episode of Torchwood is easily my favorite of the series. What is it about time travel and shoes. I gotta admit, I'm not at my best tonight. I'm a bit tired. So pardon if that's a recycle.
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Dan meets a hippie who was involved in a crime in which someone dies. Katie finds something out about Livia's past. When Dan is involved in an investigation it causes more problems between Dan and Jack.
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to number one.
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I'd hate to see that go. I think it's a pretty big hit and doing well here, too. I think we'll have at least another series/season of Torchwood.
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It's a California State Park and the name of a housing development
in the same area.
State Park:
http://tinyurl.com/yo5vxa
Housing development:
http://tinyurl.com/27fcua
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Will Newspapers Survive?
By Jeff Jacoby of The Boston Globe:
http://tinyurl.com/3e59au
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"Who's That Lady" by The Isley Brothers.
Wiki:
http://tinyurl.com/2fdq6m
There's no wiki for the song, but wow those guys have been around
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Deep Throat:
http://tinyurl.com/3yr2da
When I was a kid, people were still talking about this movie, years
and years and years later. This film has some of the most interesting
and constantly re-written history. It's getting harder and harder over the years
to decipher truth from the information that exists. Inarguably one of the most
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(see previous posts and links... I think I've posted them.. what?
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Related to "lock and key" parties, but different.
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"Long, cool woman in a black dress" - The Hollies
http://tinyurl.com/lf86g
Overshare #1 -
The Hollies were a weird obsession of mine in my childhood. Lots of
connections with other bands-music. Turned me on to CSNY, Parsons' Project, eventually
even Pink Floyd and Syd Barrett. My first job was in a record store cleaning
used records for store credit, so I used to read the liner notes of everything that went into my stack for the day. I spent a lot of time taking notes and
making connections to construct an odd, personal history of music. I used these
notes to decide what I'd spend my credit on at the end of the week. By the time I
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I love her reaction to finding out what a Key Party is there. Just.. "eww".
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Katie talking to the 2 women, and they're talking about how an "emotional affair" at the workplace is worse than a one night stand after just showing a key party in the previous scene. How things have changed. Swinging was often viewed as a way to keep a marriage exciting back then, now even having a close friendship with a co-worker can be defined (in an Oprahfied world) as a kind of "affair". I'm a move-forward kind of guy, and swinging often makes me think of sweaty scumbags and sloppy drunk women, but I can relate to people who call it "the good old days". I see people romanticize the 80s, and really kind of re-write it completely, so I have to ask myself.. what were the 70s REALLY like? One wonders.
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Katie - "Maybe you should have left it there."
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is online, in case anyone is interested. It might have been up all day and I just didn't notice, but Chud has a link to it (its on yahoo movies).
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Passing By - Zero 7
http://tinyurl.com/28ao97
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One of the ugliest cars in history was actually first manufactured on April fool's day,
1970.
http://tinyurl.com/35aev6 -
Quartz
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"Men with guns always want to control the men with ideas."
Man, what a great quote. Is it a different form of an existing
quote? It's one of those things that just stick with you, even makes you
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Shambala - Three Dog Night
http://tinyurl.com/2ay2pv
Love the pic of the band on the right. You'd think there would be at least
ONE Collared jumpsuit
http://tinyurl.com/yttoh3
in the bunch, but no. These guys were CLASS. Not like THESE guys:
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just for a moment. Dan was able to make a change in the timeline and it didn't screw things up in the present. He was able to talk his father into saying goodbye. And who knows maybe that's why Jack was able to make the decision to stick around for his own child, because he had that closure.
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That guy in the truck was creeeeeeepy. (I added an extra e)
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Number One Talkback! Journeyman on top!
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Rock the Boat - The Hues Corporation
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The lack of bras in that era is one of the things I most wish I could have seen
or been old enough to appreciate a little more. *ding ding* We have a winner.
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Miracles - Jefferson Starship
http://tinyurl.com/2xc6h2
Sung by Marty Balin. My strongest memory of Balin is the story of how, after leaving the band, his parents placed an ad for him without his blessing in the back of the Rolling Stone. What's funny about this story now is that I can find NO reference
to it, anywhere. But I know it wasn't something made up, as I had read it in multiple
publications. I guess someone, somewhere has a copy of the issue. If anyone can find
a mention of it, anywhere on the net, I'd appreciate confirmation that it didn't
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Great episode.
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Thanks, man. It's good to be number one. Maybe it'll stay there for a little while now and get the attention of a few more Journeyman fans so next week will be even bigger. I have GOT to take off for a while now. Good to see you, looplala and everyone else who showed. Now maybe next week will be a resurgence and we'll get more than just 3 people. LH should be back by then, right?
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Here are the first two eps on DVD. Ebay again: http://tinyurl.com/ypkmud
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Did you just click on this talkback wondering why it's number one? Well, every Monday at 7 PM pacific, we get together here and stream the show together while writing trivia, comments, etc. You can stream the show every Monday (or any other time you like) at savejourneyman.net . Just watch for the latest entry there on Moondays. By the way, if you're reading this? Nice shoes.
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Thank you too. And closeencounter too and Xiphos too.
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See you in and out tonight and next Moonday.
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Is it because Harry and crew have been too busy doing ...... to review movies? I'm sorry if you still care about Journeyman.... your worthless. Move on, shit gets canceled be you have some extra episodes of your Skeet Skeet Skeet show to masturbate to.
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you don't know what you're missing. All the episodes are now on hulu.com. Go. Watch. Come back next Monday. :)
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Trashtalk. Now we've really made it to top talkback. Kind of harsh to say someone's worhtless but who cares, you're adding to the post count. ;)
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Thanks for the post, whatever your name is.
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It's been fun. Join us next week?
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Does this skeet skeet whatever show have something worthy of my increasingly insatiable masturbatory attention? I could use some new material.
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Surprised that skywalkerfamily hasn't come to grace us with his witless presence. I guess we haven't really, really arrived yet.
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Everyone have fun and be nice. ;)
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FAMMIT!! Gotilk and Loop! im in awe!! I'm friggin late again! My one post tonite congratulates you! Now, to catch the 10pm pactime streaming... see you guys next week! skeet skeet haters!
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I'm drunk and journeyman sucks but you sir have bested me in putting me in my place. Enjoy your spotlight in the sun. Your welcome.
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to say that.
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Good to see you again. Seeya next week? Hope so. Thanks for stopping by.
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I fell asleep on the couch after dinner!! I'm jet-lagging like a son-of-a-bitch!! Must go to bed now! Back to work tomorrow. I was at work for 3.5 hours today. Felt like 10. Got nothing done. Good night. Hey, look! Number One Talkback!! Good going, Dudes!!! Again. 'Nite all!
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Why wasn't I invited? Goddamn, it was great when we used to be here every Monday. Xiphos, Pennsy (who never liked our show but supported it) and everyone else.
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Glad to see you home safe. See you next Moonday.
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We still do it every Monday. You just gotta join us next time.
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But here is my humble contribution. Well done guys for making this number 1 TB once again!
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Last I know, is that, it is not officially cancelled but the crew are released from contract to pursue other things. While Savejourneyman website accumulate its supporters.
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Havent done so yet since seeing this TB back at no 1 today but i am simply thinking aloud for the sake of the TB ;) ha ha
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...I am still thinking aloud
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its... www.savejourneyman.net . Delete any spaces that may appear in the address as often happens when posting links on this TB.
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For those who only look at the subject headings!
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Awesome work guys btw. Gotilk, you seem to be the one with the initiative and leader and I salute you but kudos to all keeping this TB alive. Pity though I am posting when everyone is asleep....
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Mar 18, 2008 7:37:27 AM CDT
Ok I am now definitely going to visit www.savejourneyman.net now
by theycallmemrglass
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There is hope... Well Its been fun talking to myself whilst everyone is asleep. I shall now bid everyone goodnight in the past, while I talk to myself in my sleep in the future.
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I read every word. Thanks!
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Sad. I just recently watched Cold Mountain finally. I felt like I had made a little discovery and planned on watching all he'd made. Sad, sad, sad. I had no idea he did Ripley. Also brilliant.
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you guys are on top again!Way to go!Maybe we should do a Journeyman DTV script!
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great work keeping this talkback going guys.
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TEAM!
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TEAM!
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TEAM!
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BRING THIS SHIT BACK YOU FUCKING NBC EMPTY SUITS
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and now I am sad. Sad enough to stab someone in the jaw with a pencil, and my leg is about to burst into flames.
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we must hunt down and kidnap the crew so that they cannot embark on other projects. Of course we must feed them well, no good having them back on Journeyman and they look like matchsticks. Proper planning is whats needed. I think I will watch King of Comedy to get some kidnapping ideas.
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As I'm still asleep but I suffer from sleeptyping.
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We are still doing the good work of the Church of Chang.Oh, and someone please feel free to pickup JourneyMan. Now.
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It is the number one most active talkback on this site despite all the new movies and trailers out there today, and it should serve a notice to NBC that once again a network has fucked up and cancelled a show way too soon. Of course that would mean that someone would have to actually notice the talkback, but hey, not my job.
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I introduced this show to a friend, who refused to watch it. He said he didn't like starting things that never finished and when NBC said it wouldn't air the last episode he said he would never ever watch this because of that. After they indeed showed the final episode he was still reluctant because he didn't want to watch a show and get into it only to have it not retrurn or have an ending that left too much open. So after much prodding he finally watched it last month and was blown away. He said it started out slow but it finished so strong that he wanted more, and for that he hated me. He echoed the same sentiment everyone here has in that the show was just getting to be great and then all of the sudden it ended never to be heard from again. That is unless someone at NBC looks over at this site and realizes that they really screwed the pooch on this one.
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So much so they were picking tufts of fur from their teeth for a week.
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I salute you sir! Long live Journeyman! and Fuck NBC!
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Aint I a stinker? lol
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What a crappy week.
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Today sucks big time. But in the case of Sir Arthur, I take pleasure in remembering the great books he has written as a tribute and he died at a grand age. As for Minghella, he died too young its tragic. He even had two films in production. Yeah, its a sad day.
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Here's to the great work of two extremely talented artists: Minghella and Clarke.
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Great to see everyone.
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Still not complaining. Very cool for a Tuesday.
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posted today: http://tinyurl.com/26a4st
Good stuff.
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Drink lots of water. Helps with the jetlag. Can't believe they made you go into work on the day you got back.
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You're not the only one who sleeptypes. I was beyond beat last night.
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Yeah, me too. I was completely surprised. We had a few helpers, huh? I couldn't believe it.
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But still, pretty good run. Now next week will be even bigger as we reach the end of the season. What the heck will we do when we run out of episodes? Has the savejourneyman site said anything about it? Start again at episode 1? Wow. I want this show back, even if it's for a limited return like Jericho got.
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reading back over some of the older posts, watching it all come together. And the "give it up" type messages. LOL. I get the feeling we're not going to do that just yet, from the looks of it, eh?
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taking a page from theycallmemrglass
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Didn't see you sneak in there. It did drop off the list. Should've posted that streaming message when it was still #1.
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I suppose the aicn people wouldn't like it too much if we turned this into a TB book group on The Time Traveler's Wife? :p
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wouldn't work so much either.
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they seem to like it in here once they give it a chance.
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throughout the ages.
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or limited run. Would be much better than no new no episodes.
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one sentence at a time. Yes I'm kidding on that and the shoes. ;)
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http://tinyurl.com/35lg2w and a Postcard Blitz.
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I know it then runs the risk of being aired out of order, pre-empted by sports, schedule shuffled and generally butt-raped. But at least we'd still get a FEW more episodes. Network jumps have happened before. Sometimes with great success. Not always. But that's not what it's ALL about. Look at the show Taxi. Dumped by ABC when it was put in a bad slot, then picked up by NBC. It plummeted in ratings at NBC and was canceled. But they gave it a shot and we got a final season. If any show deserves it, it's Journeyman.
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But for the most part, I'm out. This was a great week. Thanks to everyone who came in, even the haters.
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I admit this article isn't about Moon Bloodgood, but the title made me smile nonetheless. It's about how there are now efforts and experiments underway to start a Moon (as in man in the moon, thing that shows up in our night-sky moon) Colony. Interesting stuff: http://tinyurl.com/2zweol Wonder if they'll have MooNBC on the Moon Colony?
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fammit
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but hey, least it got another shot?!??!?
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no more knight rider dammit
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just watching perfedia again.. nbc god fammit renew the program!
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So when should I start in on this talkback today? Anyone got some stuff they want to post? I guess now would be as good a time as any.
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To get things started.
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It is Sunday, after all. So finish up that ham and get in here.
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I know there are not many to choose from. My favorite, so far, is the last one. Great characters, great ending. Great reveals. I think it was the breaking point for me, going from fan to FANATIC.
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If you were to cast a film about the life of Timothy Leary, who would you cast in the lead role? It's a tough one, huh? I know I've discussed it with others before, and it is THE hardest imaginary casting in all of history. Spacey could probably pull it off on an acting level, but he looks nothing like the guy. Anyways, thanks for indulging my filler.
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Any good news? I'll go look and report back.
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on savejourneyman.net it gets my hopes up. Then they are stricken down again like a murder of crows with bird flu.
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http://tinyurl.com/2rs3or
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Journeyman has made the finals for The TV IV’s Readers’ Choice Awards. Journeyman is up for best drama, but it’s currently running second place to Lost. Head on over to The TV IV Blog to help bring Journeyman to number one!
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Journeyman could actually win it.
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Find the Journeyman stories and DIGG them!
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http://tinyurl.com/3cvbmw
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Coming right up.
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http://tinyurl.com/23d7gq
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http://tinyurl.com/2q2hfh
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Compilation by Carpano
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A great one.
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http://tinyurl.com/3dj38y
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Was the whole video posted or is this just a teaser still?
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In the words of Huell Howser, "OH BOY, a slidehow? I'm there!"
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offerings. I'm sure there are others, but they were probably not tagged well or something. I know I've seen them before. I might look harder, later.
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Anyone take up some slack?
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Let's get it happening again this week, only bigger.
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who celebrate such things. Hope your bunny day was free of odd bunnies with numbers on their backs. Oops, wrong show.
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And I just had to say "fuckin' good ham, mom". If you're familiar with Kids in the Hall, you'd get that one.
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Get in here!!
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..and so there ya go. I might just re-post the episode notes from another episode.
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We could use a boost. You know, other people and stuff.
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But I'll keep watch. If I don't see anyone else in an hour or so, I'll just start posting the episode notes from another episode.
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At hulu or from savejourneyman.net
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Taking off now.
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I didn't leave! Haha!
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So get in here! Finish your mashed potatoes and get in here. Got pie? Grab a slice and bring it to the computer with you.
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I actually got that song stuck in my head for a while. I made an mp3 from one of the youtube versions.
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Anyone?
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to refresh each time. So if I miss you after a few posts, I'm sorry in advance. I'm not ignoring you, it might just take 5 minutes to notice you.
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For a little while.
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Come on.
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I told myself I'd get lots of sleep tonight so that I could post semi-coherent comments tomorrow. Probably not going to happen...just a warning.
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Great to see you. Hope you stop by during the streaming.
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Since I'm up...here's a random blog entry about saving Journeyman. Another Journeymanfan, one who happens to like knitting too:
http://tinyurl.com/2msto6
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This one's quite an amusing post about Hulu. I think this is a Hulu convert to Journeymanfan: http://tinyurl.com/2vau8u
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457 posts? Yeah there's no way we're hitting number one today. Lucky we did that last week. ;)
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tomorrow or...today. After some sleep.
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ok, yes I didn't quite go and so my "I'll be back" wasn't as dramatic as L.H.'s famous Walmart run, but my first post should read "I shouldn't still be up but I am" Hazards of typing at odd hours of the A.M.
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Good to see you. I knew some people would show up early and post. Great to see you.
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And reach 500. Anyone else wanna give it a shot with me?
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The kind of energy that McGoober guy has is unnatural.
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another one.
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But thanks to those who came by. More in the morning.
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ahem
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odd reference
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See everyone tomorrow.
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Go to savejourneyman.net for the episode or watch at Hulu.
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Be here, 7pm (earlier, if you can). Shoes optional. No fruit.
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Get here as early as you can this time.
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You're the best. Stay hopeful.
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...finally gone. I mean it this time. If you can read this and you want to help just post your thoughts about the show. Even criticisms are welcome.
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I am a Lost fan, huge one in fact. This month is going to suck.
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I love this place and I love Journeyman.
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Just watched Rome again and I have to say that Kevin McKidd is a damn fine actor!I can not imagine him in "today"clothes.But he was in "Hannibal Rising"too,as a bad guy.Damn,they should bring back Rome too.....
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Yeah, Rome was great. Didn't last long enough either.
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Hope you all slept well. I'll be sleeping for about 5 hours at some point today. Earlier the better.
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Anyone?
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From time to time.
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Not yet.
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HBO had it planed that way.But there will be a Rome movie,the script is in the works.
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with no title and no subject. How does that even happen? Will repost.
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(This is what that weirdly-posted comment originally said) Hadn't heard that. Where did you read about the Rome movie? Fammit now I want a Journeyman movie.
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probably won't be the title of that movie. Thought I'd get in another Terminator title.
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Mar 24, 2008 12:21:00 PM CDT
Hi all 50,000,000+ Journeyman fans here on AICN TB!
by theycallmemrglass
Thats right NBC, there are 50,000,000 Journeyman fans posting on this TB. Dont bother count..just just...take my word for it...Bring it back..um..nice people!
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Peoples poles on www.tv.com showed that Journeyman was second favourite show to Lost. Why did it not get enough ratings? Because it did not get the respect it deserve by giving it better marketing and a better time slot. Most people didnt know about the show and when introduced to it, they loved it. This is the message that we need to get across to NBC and other potential networks who may pick it up
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This site is where we all can make a difference to pursuading the powers that be to revive Journeyman (which is NOT cancelled, it is just not being renewed). They done it with Jericho, which was less deserving imho, so we can make it happen for Journeyman.
www.savejourneyman.net
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go to www.journeyman.com for more details! Everyone echo this for new comers to this TB!
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It's true about the fans...I lost count at 49,000,000
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Any poles that you come across for best tv show, and your favourite is LOST (its mine, too), vote for Journeyman instead. Lost will never be cancelled before its planned ending in 2 years. It is too big to ever be in such threat and the ratings will not be affected. But Journeyman needs our votes. At least one of the poles are bound to be noticed by NBC execs.
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Do you have the link to that poll on tv.com? I never saw it.
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Thats why I advise NBC to not bother count. It was very hard and labourious but NBC are most welcome to my free statistician services!
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http://tinyurl.com/2dcahm It's Ausiello's poll. Journeyman was doing really well for weeks there until it suddenly dropped.
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getting it now...
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to offer your valuable statistician services free of charge like that! I forgot to say that you can vote as many times as you want in that Ausiello poll. I'll check back here later. Need to attempt at least to get some things done today. :p
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How foolish of me, it was IT VI Blog. It was what Goltik referenced last week. I thought it was bloody TV.com. Anyway, still, it still adds to our arsenal...
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Journeymam is closing the gap on Lost! I swear Lost had very large margin last week Now Journeyman is on its tail.
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I'll go check out that Ausiello's poll you mention.
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its leading the polls by a big margin. Fans gotta lot of work to do with this one!
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6K DTV?
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I did vote in that one. Yeah that was a pretty impressive showing by Journeyman. Being a Lost fan too, I wouldn't have minded at all had Lost come in second. Easy mix up to make between the sites Btw. How many sites have the word "TV" in the URL anyway? 1,000,0001?
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Yes absolutely. We'll get our 50,000,000+ fans right on it. ;)
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I had no idea they considered this talkback a rival.
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"The Hanged Man" Here is the direct link to it: http://tinyurl.com/34oysj
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The DTV loves the Journeyman!
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Thanks Travis-Dane. I was reading in the DTV Talkback some just now and was going to say Love/Hate but I like "Friendly Rivals" much better. Besides we have mutual enemy tonight. That ridiculously long Terminator TB. :O
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episode 10 after 12 tonight? I missed that one.
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Here's a list of other famous Terminator lines: http://tinyurl.com/2hnemy I already used up my one "I'll Be Back" allotment per day. Be back in a bit.
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guys post shit in here,but I think sometimes they get carried away.gotilk and I are "the patrons of goodwill".But as I said,when it comes down to it,the Journeyman and the DTV stick together.
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Hey everyone!!!
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finish line.
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Who is with me?
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Not 12
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oops
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I'll be ready at 7.
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Checking in for a moment...be back closer to the ep.
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I'll be here.
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Wait, which is it. I thought Perfidia was 13.
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LOL. For some reason this 11, 12, 13 conversation is starting to sound like a routine to me. Is it the lack of sleep? Perhaps. It's Episode 12, The Hanged Man. The Ep is now up on savejourneyman.net :)
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You two are doing a damn fine job.
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Hope that doesn't confuse too many people, those who stream on Hulu or wherever else.
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Seriously.
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and counting...
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Here we go.
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we have elevators. Hugh always gets the great lines.
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I want to be loved - Cassandra Wilson
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did a phenomenal job.
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http://tinyurl.com/36ulpq
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Practical and digital. I like when part of the motor home goes WHOOSH
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Wiki:
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Jack makes a joke about this Kurt Vonnegut book when he's suggesting therapy to Dan: http://tinyurl.com/3cglrw
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LOL!! Great line.
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Der Kommissar - After The Fire
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Haha!
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coos coos? is it cous cous? Couscous?
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http://tinyurl.com/2lkqmk
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Creepy moment. Totally took me off guard the first time.
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Usually kids sound like they're adults trying to do kid-speak. When the son says "Hey Thanks for Saving Our Lives and Everything" a very good dialogue moment.
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RONCO! They should get Ronco.
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Significant. Butterfly effect:
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Nanotechnology -
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How scary would that be? To have a kid and a husband that you sense wants
to make her just "go away" and be replaced with another kid. It could have
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How is everyone? Chime on in.
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The whole Who? Caroline storyline really did make me go Woah! the first time. And I think it could've been easily very cheezy but so well-acted and so well-done with every last details including that the daughter looks so much like Dan. All that makes it un-cheezy and high quality.
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That seeing eye dog looks adorable, and would probably chew your face off.
Great combination.
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http://tinyurl.com/2576kw
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And then Katie's "What?" The whole dilemma of having an equally good life and knowing that you'll erase that equally good reality because it's not the one you've known or the one you know is supposed to be. Dan has to make a choice here and his morals are called into play.
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You can feel the pressure. Intense. I miss it, kind of. You take it for granted when you live there.
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Kinda bugged me a bit. But it did add to the creepy factor, so I see why
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as it is now. Technology run amok b/c of one small mistake. Makes you think what the world would be like if just one details here and there in history would have changed.
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At work right now. I'll stream later, but checkin in here for a few!
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interesting... Falls did mention having an antigonistic traveler if the series kept going... that wouldve been cool to see.. fAMMIt.
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and wonder if they'd have brought her in at all if they didn't know the series' future was in danger and they needed to provide some closure.
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Yeah, what a complicated decision to make. Do you listen to your wife or your memory? He's erasing more than an alternate future here. People were probably relying on the nanotech.. lives were saved... information moved faster.. who knows what he messed up.. what he fixed? Very, very convoluted messy stuff.
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Good to see you.
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whew.
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and fixing one thing messes up another. Such an entwined mess. This episode also brings up for me, more than any others, why does Dan get sent back to rescue this woman? Was he supposed to learn this lesson of not messing with the past? Who decides when Dan travels and who in the past gets rescued.
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Good to see you. Yeah, that would have been great. I wonder if it ended up being the psychic. Maybe she isn't a psychic at all, and just an opportunistic traveler.
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Close one.
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Is it a missile? Does it date from the same period the other Kennedy Space Center pics were taken? I can't remember if that's answered later on in the episode.
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Inspired them to develop bionic vision. Nice.
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She does say something like "the future is nothing but little bits of the present strung together" which made me think on first viewing she had more answers to Dan's travels than she was revealing. If the future is bits of the present. Then the present is probably bits of the past strung together. Perhaps Dan travels to the "bits of the past" that affect his life and that of his loved ones?
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Nice. I love this show.
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Josie? Jersey? Susan?
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"I'm afraid so"
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I think that's the real reason why he acted like he'd never
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Thanks!! See you next week for the big finale blow-out.
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....Zack What a chills moment.
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Always fun. I probably can't come back at 10 this time. But if anyone else can, please.. please do. Or even stick around now and post for a while.
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We discussed it here too. No wonder it stuck in my brain as significant. It all relates back to Koppel.
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lost of chills moments and moments when I said to myself "so they WILL go there". Very satisfying, in so many ways.
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I'll stick around for a little while.
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See you.
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I wasn't being sarcastic earlier. It is really cool when other TBers stop by.
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After Livia and Dan take a walk in the fog, the title on the newspaper they see says Pierre Trudeau resigns. He was the Prime Minister of Canada. http://tinyurl.com/gbegl
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Yep, it all leads to Koppel. I always knew his hair was fake.
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and what shouldn't be? And who's to say Dan's life with a daughter wouldn't have been just as good.
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say it isn't so! LOL
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Dan can see now the significance of the development of the occular implant. Something which Hugh takes for granted. Dan knows he cannot even take the basics of his life for granted and realizes the power that travelers can wield if they so choose.
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I'll add it into my text file.
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all over again. There are so many plotlines to be explored from that one scene where Langley pretends not to know Dan. Who else knows? Who are the other ones the security guard refers to? The other ones who've been by and Langley didn't know them either.
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if I only did advanced prep like Gotlik. That must be some collection of text files you have.
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I remember that Kevin Falls said on a Journeyman podcast that the reason he picked San Francisco as the location was that it always seemed so mystical. The psychic uses that word "mystical" to describe the belief of metaphysicists about the occurrence of that comet. There are also at least two scenes in this episode where fog is rolling in. One where Livia and Dan talk ever so briefly about how Livia has agreed to marry Henry. And one is a transition shot of the city of San Fran with the fog rolling in.
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THIS is where it gets interesting. Well, that's unfair, because it ALWAYS found a way to become more interesting with each new episode. If this show doesn't come back in SOME form, it'll be really depressing.
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80s' sweaters. All in a good ep of Journeyman. Really though...those sweaters that Dewey wears rival Cosby's for sure.
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over the bay? If you get up in the Berkeley Hills high enough, it's STUNNING. Beautiful.
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A good story is like that. It propels you forward and with each new detail provides a reason for you to turn the page or keep watching. I was thinking during this episode, that even people who start with this one episode could easily get hooked on this series. A good challenge to all the non-JMers. Watch this episode. See what happens. Not that my challenge here will do all that much, considering we're preaching to the choir.
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in SF. At moments it can be so gorgeous, it'll take your breath away. When I was there, I took a trip to Muir Woods, I believe, and the combination of these ancient trees, dark forest lighting and fog was just spectacular.
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posters on the walls.
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guy. Wiki has him as resigning in 1979 but the episode says 1984. Historical error perhaps.
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were they in 1984? Because 1984 was the year that Macintosh introduced Apple with what was at the time a revolutionary ad. Here's the youtube link for it: http://tinyurl.com/3xlwrh
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Though I do wonder what happened to L.H. Did he suddenly have a headache? Did he get stuck in permanent jetlag? Find out next time on...(Yes I did just rewatch that Lost recap episode with THE narrator)...Herc's talkback. All kidding aside, hope L.H. is well.
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I go. Never again.
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Next week... ALL OUT!!
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I'm out for now.
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Never watched "Journeyman" but I was fucking pissed when they canned "Miracles." Now there was a Skeet show worth saving.
Uh, anyway, greetings from the DTV and keep up the pointless work. We can do it. We're all in this together.
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You know it! We're in it for the long haul. Keep the faith.
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Just watched the best Torchwood so far. Just WOW. Really, really good.
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It's been good. I was hoping we'd get a bunch of late comers like last week. Guess not. Everyone have a great week and prepare for the season finale next Moonday.
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So if you want to try, maybe it would be fun to keep this talkback alive all week.
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Have fun. I'll keep posting here and there. If I see one other person post, I''l do the same. And so on and so on.
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I need to just let it go. But it's hard sometimes.
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seeya then
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Flying motorcycles!!!
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hot on our heels.
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The Mist. I actually loved the color version just fine. Dark ending, but good.
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a day without sunshine that just doesn't scatter quite right.
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They should at least change the name. PRISON BREAK:Escape Consultants! and make it a reality tv show where the Scofield brothers help an inmate escape a new prison each week.
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want to get a monkey. If anyone has ever had a monkey, let me tell you it never ends well. They are NOT pets. They're roommates with habits that make Oscar look like Felix.
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Seriously. And no I'm not reading it.
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Seeya.
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I hope more supporters build up here, though at least just echoing www.savejourneyman.com or something or anything.
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Mar 25, 2008 7:04:33 AM CDT
See Livia and Katie naked on www.savejourneyman.net!!
by theycallmemrglass
Ok, that was a shallow ploy! At least beats NBC marketing which was non-existent.
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Mar 25, 2008 9:11:39 AM CDT
Blu-Ray dead... No More Format War... Go Buy A DVD Player
by stereotypical evil archer
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Mar 25, 2008 9:17:27 AM CDT
KEEP IT GOING UNTIL REAL TIME TRAVEL HAPPENS
by stereotypical evil archer
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Next week we'll be streaming the final episode. Then we'll travel back in time to episode one.
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Will do.
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Mar 25, 2008 11:10:37 AM CDT
my helper monkey tried to ikill me by putting glass shavings
by ironic_name
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That would be the title for your DTV.GotilkMan2:The NBC Tapes!See ya next week....
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Hope we do see you next week. I'm still hanging around, watching this stuff.
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I'll post from time to time. Hope everyone has a great week. Remember, it all starts Sunday night after 8pm.
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It'd be nice to see Journeyman given just a tiny little season like that to finish the larger story elements. Jericho did a bang-up job of it, too. I hope the ratings for them spiked tonight.
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wouldn't die, not Jericho. I watched it, I liked it. But it was no Journeyman. I'm still waiting for news directly from Falls or anyone. Encouragement, discouragement? Anything new would be nice after this long.
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but really it makes no sense to me that great shows like Journeyman should have no place on television. Journeyman really should've been the next Jericho-type success. I feel for all the Jericho fans who worked so hard and feel that the network didn't reciprocate their efforts. Is it up to the viewers these days to promote shows? Doesn't make any sense.
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http://tinyurl.com/3dtzo8
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Nice to see ya. Isn't it weird that we're on the LAST episode this week? I think I'm going to go all out with my biggest effort so far starting Sunday at about 8pm pacific.
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Is: Torchwood Season 2 Episode 12: Fragments. Best episode so far this season with an emphasis on character development.
Summary: When Torchwood are caught in an explosion, the unconscious team recall the day each were recruited to the organization.
Any other show would play it the way this type of episode is always played.. played OUT. But now, this one turns out to be one of the most character driven pieces in the whole series. Not only do you get to find out how they got that Pterodactyl in the Torchwood headquarters, you get to find out part of why Owen Harper is the kind of cold, bitter type he comes across as so often. There's real loss, deep character back stories and true suspense for anyone even slightly invested in these characters. Why this show doesn't get a talkback from time to time this season is beyond me. Maybe it's the GAY. We should start a loving but hilarious gayness rating system for Torchwood episodes. Buttplugs perhaps? One buttplug means very little even slightly gay reference, 2 means something is heavily hinted at, 3 is Jack actually makes out with a guy, 4 is near or full nudity and bed scene between 2 guys (or girls) and four means "you better break out the show tunes and groom yourself, this is going to be a wild bareback ride which will most likely leave you walking oddly the next day having even watched the damned thing". This was a 1 buttplug episode, for sure. And the look on Ianto's face in one scene makes me think maybe it took some coaxing to get him in a man sandwich. I hesitate to call it a manwich for fear of being sued. The best out of all the back stories is definitely Jack's. Great humor and it makes perfect sense. Not only that... but in the olden days, Torchwood chicks were HOT. Definitely reach out into the torrents and grab this one. You'll watch it twice. -
I'm having a deja vu of what I felt when the last episode aired. Looking forward to it but also not. I had to skip the whole Torchwood post because I'm still running behind in that series. Although I've watched some of the episodes and have not been disappointed. I thought I read months ago that many people found that season two didn't hold up to season one. I'll be able to make my own judgement on that soon enough, but so far, I'm liking it.
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this week, but so far no luck on that front. Still a few days left though.
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I should have noted that. But they were mild spoilers.
It's just so strange that we're at the ending stretch of this whole thing and still no new news. Is this how they all die? The creators try to avoid the world for a few months and just forget about the whole thing? Next thing you know, the new TV season is around the corner and no-one remembers your show anymore?
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Buh-dum-dump!
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And I'm not anywhere even near being pun with it all.
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The creators of this show could be about as in the dark about its future as we are. They're probably at the mercy of the nets as well. If they move on, it won't be because they want to, but because the networks shut it down.
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Heh. Couldn't resist getting in on the pun.
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Great to hear the creativity is flowing Gotilk!
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Trippy, huh? Well, actually I have a Rat Terrier right here in the house with me, so I know where she is thank goodness. And there's an ongoing joke about a missing terrier in my book.
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Journeyman fans? I'd suck at fanfic. But I like to read it.
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anyone around?
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Th last Moonday? I don't think so.
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Being typo-free... not so much.
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not too long ago. I'll find the link again and post Moonday. I don't know how good I'd personally be at fanfic...but I'm sure there are some other people out there who would excel at it. I'm much better writing non-fiction, myself.
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about the Rat Terrier by accident. So Gotlik, you have a Rat Terrier and a Rottweiler?
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if anyone out there has got typos...bring 'em on. I can compete with the best of them. Last week, I even somehow posted an empty message (though I could swear that was the site being weird and not my error).
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They get along pretty nicely. The Terrier is IN charge.
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A real, live WOLF! It was awesome and beautiful. I wanted to get out of the car to get a closer look, but I decided against it. It was over the top of a small hill and I did not know what was just over the top. Could have been more wolves. I'd seen Coyotes in the area before, Deer, foxes.. etc. But WOLVES!!?? That was a first. I talked to a guy that does security in the area a little while later and he was shocked, but then told me he and others in the area had seen Mt Lions. Yikes. I'd had a few run-ins with them in the foothills when I was a kid, but I'd never seen them in the city area. Freaky, strange stuff.
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I know I saw one here, once. I'd be interested in reading what fans have written.
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See ya then.
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Good morning , Journeyfans!
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I meant Journeymanfans. Not Journeyfans. Eww.
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I need to attach electrodes to my toes to make sure I don't nap through everything this time. That would suck in a huge way.
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gathering of links here, and be back in a while to post what's been popping up in my Journeyman-related google alerts.
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Mention of Journeyman again.
http://tinyurl.com/2p89g3 -
markets. Check your local paper(s).
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AND he has good taste in TV, obviously.
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this week!! Please, please, please, NBC. Please. Even a short, Jericho-like mini season would be better than nothing. Or a 2 hr TV movie! Or even 2 nights of 2 hr movies.. a mini-series... you could sell it on DVD! Ahrgh!! Something. *fingers crossed*
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These links will be related, somewhat related and sometimes just goofy blog posts mentioning the show. Let's get started! Bring your shoes and leave the fruit behind.
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He even used the fanboi tag. Wowzers.
http://tinyurl.com/3cwcgk -
Posted already? I think so.
http://tinyurl.com/2t38h4 -
Slice of Sci Fi article(mentions Kevin Falls)
http://tinyurl.com/2scz5u -
Nice, kind words for Journeyman.
"It was, as I have said perhaps far too often and too loudly, the best written and acted show on television. "
http://tinyurl.com/2jjuru -
Bunch of episodes on one page?
http://tinyurl.com/3bt866 -
reviewed.
http://tinyurl.com/2or8s6 -
..a lot. Here's her blog to prove it:
http://tinyurl.com/2unv27 -
..but URL is down. Probably just as well. Hrm.
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Just in case your morbid curiosity gets the best of you AND the link starts to work.
http://tinyurl.com/2jjfqe -
http://tinyurl.com/26a4st
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are about sports. Lots of them. Hard to sift through all the junk to get to the meat. Kinda like a bad piroshki.
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Mention of Journeyman..
http://tinyurl.com/3yg5rb -
to Eli Stone (wha??!!) and New Amsterdam (fair enough). But I can't say I agree with him.
http://tinyurl.com/2tunwb -
December:
http://tinyurl.com/35gzh4 -
http://tinyurl.com/2t9uz7
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Who is Fandoria? Who cares? At least her husband is cool as hell.
Any Journeyman Fans out there?
http://tinyurl.com/2ncq9n -
Mentions Journeyman, focus on Sarah Connor Chronicles.
http://tinyurl.com/3cc4t3 -
Get in here and post! Journeyman is waiting for you. Remember, this is finale week. Come in and show your love on the last week of streaming. (well, I'm coming back next week with an episode 1 re-cap)
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Get in here.
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Have fun. Post links. Write stuff. Interact with yourself, much like I am right now.
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Wasn't that long, was it?
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Go to savejourneyman.net and stream at 8pm pacific. Remember, this is the finale week, so make this one the biggest one yet! Show your love, bring the eyes here.
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and I haven't even cracked it yet. That's story is OVER as of right now.
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Let's see if I can find some fresh stuff this time.
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http://tinyurl.com/2q53yq
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sorry for not being specific.
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http://tinyurl.com/2q53yq
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His story is pretty moving. The guy is working on time travel partly to go back and save his father, who he misses greatly. His father died at 33!! from a heart attack. Way too young. The audio interview above gives a pretty good account of his motivations. He's a great guy.
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I have a ton of stuff, and you're gonna get it all... if you want it.
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http://tinyurl.com/3c2u79
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http://tinyurl.com/2wstem
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All of the stuff I'm posting today.
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http://tinyurl.com/38uysp
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http://tinyurl.com/3drbtc
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http://tinyurl.com/3yzgur
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Full documentary in 5 parts on google video, featuring Ron Mallett.
Part 1:
http://tinyurl.com/2jq4rh
Part 2:
http://tinyurl.com/2s2mre
Part 3:
http://tinyurl.com/2o3csq
Part 4:
http://tinyurl.com/38grzn
Part 5:
http://tinyurl.com/362jlc -
On video, for now. Everything else on the man is a lot of repeats of the same material, cut up into parts, edited, etc. I'll post a few text-related information on the man now. Then I need a bit of sleep before tonight.
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http://tinyurl.com/2h7ull
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http://tinyurl.com/2jao44
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?
ASLT?? (age, sex, location, time location?)
Sample comment:
"I LOVEd YR BK! 4 REALZ! HIT ME UP SOMETIME... IN THE PAST. LOLZ! Get it? NEWAYS ,KTHXBYE!" -
http://tinyurl.com/2o5o5b
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It was getting lonely in here.
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while I get a little shut-eye before tonight? I worked all night.
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Journeymanfans! Get in here. Post your stuff.
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Come on, you know you love this show.
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I can't stay up or I'll miss out later.
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around here this morning. lol Hey Lost talkback. You know I love you.
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Nah.
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Where's my fellow Journeymanfanatics?
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longer. So be sure to wait a little while before you try to bring back that Labyrinth DVD release talkback.
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Oops, wrong talkback.
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Man, those bits with him were funny on the muppet show.
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doing "hurt" by NIN?
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Kinda disturbing, but funny if you can get over it.
http://tinyurl.com/39kyn7 -
Sometimes I like to smell flowers. But then other times I remember what made that flower grow, and I remember what that stuff smells like. When that happens, I sometimes look around and ask people if they farted. Flowers don't always equal smiles.
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Skynet in 5, 4, 3, 2, .....
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Oh wait!!! Ahole Ramirez to the rescue! Thanks man, I was about to give up hope and get some much needed sleep. :)
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Hmmm...
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Or maybe more muppet videos. Let's see.
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http://tinyurl.com/3ddljq
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http://tinyurl.com/22lmxg
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http://tinyurl.com/363urq
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http://tinyurl.com/2rs9bz
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http://tinyurl.com/322qn7
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This one's a winner.
http://tinyurl.com/2dywal -
http://tinyurl.com/2oqk7g
Good casting. -
http://tinyurl.com/2lupsl
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I think we can do it. Remember, NBC announces their official schedule this week.
And yeah, I think the brother was supposed to be annoying so he could redeem himself later on. I think he did, in the end. -
I think it was me.
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I think it was me.
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that NBC will pull the ultimate April fools joke on Journeyman fans.
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lol. That'd be great. Can you imagine how hilariously awful that would be?
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But you nailed it with what I would also consider the best of the cast.
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Loved that show, never watched it until it was complete, somehow. I got to watch the whole thing in a multi-day marathon. Great show, great characters.
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fools story will be. Will it be obvious, or will it be cruel and believable?
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Not expected to end until right before the last Lost episode of the already shortened season is completed.
NIGHTMARES!!! -
How much hope do you really think there is for another, even short, season of Journeyman? I'm optimistic. I'd say it's 50/50 right now.
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which would be... one guy right now.
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Just the regular stuff over here. Carpal tunnel, repetitive stress injuries, you know.. the usual.
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just wanted to send you a greeting in support of your mostly solo tb. i am quite impressed. i will return. and i really did enjoy journeyman. although i would have ditched the wife and taken off with moon. and why couldn't he have kept his yummy scottish accent for the show???
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Thanks! Not sure about the accent. I think it would have worked out fine, maybe even brought in a whole other demographic.
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Great to have others here. It was getting massively boring in here.
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Even if male? To me, no. But to women, gays and bisexual everyone else... sure.
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..and honestly.. where else could it be?
http://tinyurl.com/2jzhpe -
.."have a seat right here please"
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Do it!!!
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...they should get rid of it quickly.
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7-11 this week started giving away these little coffee shot things. They're hard to describe, but they're almost the same as those half and half- creamer packets they give away already. They're magical little cups of caffeinated goodness. They even have a warning label that says "limit 2 per day". They taste like coffee, but not bitter.. somehow. Guess what warning I chose to ignore today! That's right, the 2 cuplet limit. That's what they are, cuplets. Little itty bitty cups of pure energy. Best of all?
GRATIS! FREE!! No charge!
Now all I have to do is buy the tiniest coffee, fill it with sugary vanilla cappucino powder magic liquid and add about 3 of those little cuplets.. and I'm good for a night's work, a day's worth of talkbacking (or more) as well as an early evening of Journeyman stream-along-with-trivia fun!! -
Not a bad deal. Of course there's always the risk that my heart will explode.
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My eyes are hurty.
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mixing it with their age accelerator of choice. I mean speed.
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Internets were filled with free porn? Wow, those were the days. Now all we have are forums and talkbacks, IRC and bittorrent.
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I was just informed that the Internets are still filled with free porn! What are you still doing here? What am *I* still doing here?
and the obelisk spoke to him...
.."my god, it's full of pron"...
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Did you guys miss me?
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wow.
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And write up my notes while I monitor things here on and off.
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I could use the break.
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You'll become immortal. I swear.
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taking notes.
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This is either a good sign, or a bad one. I'll decide which after 7pm. Bittorrent it is!
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ended, if this truly is the end.
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I may joke around a lot, but I really, really do love this show and would like to see it come back in some form.
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I wonder if he still watches this stuff.
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More back-up!! More back-up!!
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http://tinyurl.com/3e469r
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I'm outta ideas.
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as good as ever.
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I haven't been keeping up.
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no matter how hard I tried, when the next Futurama was going to be on. I'd tune in and it'd be football or some other show... messy.
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I really gotta go.
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Seeya in a few hours.
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get in here...
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c'mon
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thx for being here
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seeya
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But some of the TB's are getting really crazy around here.Title Spamming everywhere!sad...
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But it's great to see you. Gonna fill in for me for a bit?
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I watched it yesterday and he plays a badass merc who vanishes sometime in the movie!maybe he started the timetravel thing there.....
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the director's cut of that.
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you bet your booty accents are yummy. but then again i use 'edible' analogies for most things i like. i really don't know why, my whole family does it.
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sorry to throw you both off, i am an equal opportunist when discussing attractiveness, but i am a gal. saying that, i really do not understand why he wouldn't have ditched his wife to be with his hot-also-time-traveller ex.
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go ramirez! i wanna see that ancient tb in the top 10. and hopefully not with fake title lists...not that i don't find it a bit entertaining. if you did do the batman and robin one, you could cite all the times george cloony mocked himself about being in it. and all the times others mocked him for the same (think academy awards-tilda swinton). just giving you some ideas. i am such a voyeur i would probably never take on the task myself, but i will help!
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to help your numbers. kevin mckidd was great in Rome. never saw kingdom of heaven. i think i should, i've heard great things.
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breep......breep....breeep....
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now i know how you must feel, some days, gotilk. i am doubley tripley quadrupley impressed with your tanacity. and with your ability to drink nasty coffee-sugar shooter to keep up your strength. i am an elitist when it comes to coffee. i just can't bear the thought of it....ugh!
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...like Knight Rider. Fucking NBC. So pissed....
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much later than I wanted to be. Sorry I couldn't play backup. I gotta read back as much as I can.
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in the Lost TB? I can't check over there because I still slightly behind in my Lost viewing. Am so very impressed with the season so far. It didn't disappoint. I'm only at the Desmond episode though.
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Last week I was all but physically carted away to my sister's house because some family friends were down here visiting for Easter. I missed Download-A-Rama!! But I'm here now and ready for action!!
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... er, um... anyone?
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Can't believe the nerve of some family members, forcing you to miss Journeyman. Don't they have priorities? :p Good to see you.
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Although my computer clock keeps switching back an hour. I keep resetting it and it keeps switching back. It's like for some reason my computer wants to be on Central Time.
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I just got myself a Hulu logon! I could never get in before! I used a link from above for Hulu and I got in! It let me start an account! How 'bout dat!
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last download a rama day?
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This is the site I had come across. I didn't read any of the fics there though, so I can't recommend or not recommend. http://tinyurl.com/yw237z
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yeah Hulu went public so now everyone can get accounts. I usually stream once there and once on savejourneyman.net.
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It's so much more fun saying "Howdy" than "Hey." Yeah last download day. What happens after. Does aicn kick us out?
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Meanwhile, JOURNEYMAN is still gone. Way to go, NBC. Your discriminating taste is fascinating.
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Best ep so far.
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Good job keeping this issue in the forefront every week.
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http://tinyurl.com/2br49a
http://tinyurl.com/yqtjd7 -
Excellent start to the episode. Evan is such a great twist.
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Is this really what viewers want to watch?
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Heh. If that isn't on the list of things a person most doesn't want to hear in public.
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on the TV footage at the mental hospital?
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likey.
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WAKE-UUUUUPPPPP!!!!! NO MORE NAPPY-NAPPY!!!!
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Guess it's not possible to email an alarm clock?
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Dude! Last day man!! We need you!!
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Loading Talkback. Hope Gotlik does get to make it to stream tonight.
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that he just finally let go of the idea he could have something as good as they did...what a moment. Doesn't seem like saying that is exactly letting go either.
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Just let it go. No.
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nice shoes though.
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hot. Still a great line second time around.
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FAMMIT!
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starring in Wicked..it's not a story. LOL.
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Interesting.
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that one little bump and your entire life could be erased just like that.
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no problem - I actually wasn't at all offended. I was really just curious but not wanting to check in there so as not to get spoiled.
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I just love that ending. Network TV? Quality be damned. We want ratings. Alas...
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Divine? Government Project? Quantum Physicists? Other world powers?
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He helped finance the Pyramids.
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Mentioned "they" were watching... I say government project.
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Last two weeks I've been in training here at work, so haven't had the time to watch. Damn work........
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...but you are here on the last day. Good to see you! I'm at work too.
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But I still love the "Eddie" bit. Anyone know where its from?
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;) Maybe Langly has.
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Made me laugh at work. A rare occurance.. still happens.
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being a consortium of elite world powers trying to cover up decades of secret time travel. But it seems the creators probably would've gone with something more mystical than that. Perhaps it's an unexplained occurence that is being pursued by world and government powers to do their bidding and Langley is the one trying to stop that from happening.
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of all the fracken times to go to sleep man!
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even if you can't stream, how good you could make it to the finale streaming talkback party. Hey, where's the confetti?
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On this show?? I still have the last two eps on my DVR. Can't bear to erase them :^( ....
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Close to the #1 TB tonight
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Its from Steven Wright. It goes something like this: "A friend of mine has been working on a government project trying to find out who financed the Pyramids. He's pretty sure it was a guy named... Eddie."
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would've run into each other again? I'd like to think so. And does the fact that they both had a feeling it would be a long time mean that Dan has now learned all he could from Livia? Who will be there to make sure he makes it through his journeys? Will someone else be looking out for him or will he be on his own? Lots of unanswered questions but still lots of closure.
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Gotilk.. still, youre the man. This Tb wouldnt exist without you.
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Steven Wright has got to be on the top list of comedians.
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As much love as I have for the muppets, that just doesn't seem right.
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The count will be playing the part of Langley. And Guy Smiley will be Hugh.
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Oh, the shame of it all!
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Dan would still see Livia.. her leaving seemed too abrupt although there was enough closure.
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I had hoped we would've found out he had been a traveler too or at least somehow uncovered something that suggested this was going on. Why was Dan at the space center with Langley. Perhaps Dan's dad was taking him along as cover for researching a story.
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Mar 31, 2008 10:25:38 PM CDT
Beaten by a string of alternate titles for a soon to be released
by l.h.puttgrass
Just in case I'm cut off in the subject line: Beaten by a string of alternate titles for a soon to be released movie.
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Stupid TB code.
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at first i was going to say he was just the photojournalist.. but yah.. there were too many wtf moments in his face when Dan would talk about his own dad leaving at 5? and the camera panning to the old photos at certain moments. Wouldve been cool to see....
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tonight? Not even on the top TBs?
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Do you think Dan's mother knew something too? Is that why she gave the advice to Katie that she did?
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My Norton Internet Security 2007 will be expiring soon. I want something else because Norton 2007 really slowed my computer down. It just ate up processor time at start up and kept on nibbling afterwards. Anyone got any suggestions? I'd like some advice, please.
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Great job, everyone!!!
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Good morning!!
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dont know much about PC's..sorry. We had to stay away from Norton on system X..it would crash big time, not sure if they fixed the bugs...
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We did try to hold down the fort.
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better late than never man!
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but haven't tried it personally.
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A good personal firewall, of course a secure browser running noscript and an antivirus I can turn off. Trust your best instincts. I've gone from 1992-ish on without a single actual virus except for a machine I stuck on the network once without a firewall, with a non-updated install fresh from the CD of WinXP. That was a bitch to remove. Kerio makes a good little firewall. Norton is bulky and bloated stuff. If you use Kerio personal firewall, you're pretty covered. You can always test it, too at shields up! Hmm, let me find that...
http://tinyurl.com/38k3qa
Just set your security up and test it there. Just be sure not to mess up your ability to run P2P effectively. :)
The only thing that's a pain in the butt is the first few days of babysitting a new firewall installation. Good rule of thumb? If the computer is just sitting there, and something wants to connect or be connected to the Internets while you have told it to do NOTHING, it's bad. If you just opened uTorrent, and it seemingly wants to do weird stuff, give it permission to do what it needs to do. That's the best advice I have for you, really. -
Get to know your task manager. Google every running process. You'd be surprised the crap that runs while you're doing nothing. For the best windows optimization, always turn to the Black Viper.
http://tinyurl.com/2tas2
Some of the best advice on all the tubes combined. -
Good to see you. I just slept through my alarm. Not only that, I was so pooped out I even set the clock wrong. What a mess. But at least I got this thing way the hell up there before I crashed. On top of THAT, I had like... maybe 5 links/trivia done.. I set my alarm for 2 hours before and woke up almost 2 hours late... sheesh.
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I'm gonna look in to it. Again, thanks.
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i feel sooo... left out.
LH, whenever you need a photo album... -
catch Malware?
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Too many crashes and it started to hog memory. A good firewall blocks ports. Everything else it tries to be is bloat. BUT.. I have heard they've made improvements. I like Kerio for now. I even use some older versions on purpose because it just does what it needs to do and nothing else. If you use P2P for anything other than TV shows and Creative Commons downloads, I also suggest running Peerguardian. But be careful where you get it. So much so that I don't even feel comfortable giving you advice on where to get it. It requires research. Some of the versions out there are dodgy at best. There are so many OLD articles out there on p2p security, you have to pay attention to article dates/years. Sourceforge may be a good place to start when looking for the peerguardian project.
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perhaps Gotilk I did a search on that and found a prison and some vacation spots??? And crap I started misspelling your name again. Back to the correct spelling now.
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For that I use good practices and "Spybot Search and destroy" as well as adaware. But none of these run on my computer 24/7. I trust good practices above all else. Be sure windows is set up to show you full filenames, with extensions showing. Start using Windows Explorer (NOT I.E.)instead of mycomputer to find things. Show lists, never icons for saved files. Stop using thumbnails. If you're downloading shareware/freeware/open source software, get it always from trusted sources like SourceForge or the home page of the developer. Hell, I should probably just throw all this info on a web page/blog. I've been securing these things tightly for so long now.
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And as a reply to the ports thing, I think in most firewall program you can manually unblock ports. Not that I would do that for any reasons. ;)
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No, I hadn't grabbed that. I didn't have much. Some comments and that's about it. I tried to stream the show earlier and ended up grabbing the episode from a private site instead because the streaming wasn't working for me earlier. Is it working now?
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True. I'm not sure anything is worse. Except maybe windows' built in firewall.
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And kind of makes me wish I was in Mac Land with Ysobttr.
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My only reason for not using Macs is price. I built all of the rest here myself. 5 of them. I have an imac that someone gave me at my college. I have yet to buy a power cord, keyboard and mouse for it. But I will. Looking forward to it. My next machine I'm building is gonna run Ubuntu!
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Haha! It's a whole "slew" of fans here now. All 8 of us!! But Fammit!! We're die hard and we each represent a thousand normal people.
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damn! Diehards rule!!!!!!!
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well at least it went out with a bang. What a great episode. Well, this is the week NBC makes it's final announcements for the season, officially. Everyone crossing their fingers?
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Love em. have one at home. happy. im poor.. but happy.
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photo album?
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crossing the other two...
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Ubuntu?
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PCs? Blown power supplies. Over and over. You just can't go cheap with those things anymore. And you should see my power bill some months here. INSANE! In the summer, I have to close pretty much every vent in the house except to the room with the computers, or else it becomes an oven while the rest of the house feels like a fridge. Crazy. Computers get HOT. And they tend to dislike hot almost as much as I do. I seriously need to go solar. I already spend enough each year to buy a couple of solar power systems anyway. I've just been lazy.
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poor attempt at macs vs pc humor.
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...regarding NBC.
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Ubuntu! Check it out:
http://tinyurl.com/465s2
Easiest Linux yet. Powerful. Easy. Secure. And not only that, they'll send you a free CD. You can run it from a CD to try it out. -
...until I get the wrong answer regarding Journeyman this week. Then I will have my finger fully erect.
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if that's what it ends up being. Classy, simple, some things resolved, some things left for wonderment.
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You guys are the best. Seriously. So glad everyone showed again.
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I've never done it before, but I think I can do it.
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I love NBC till Wednesday.
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I'll try to check back in if I can. If not later, then tomorrow or on Wed.
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I want to level up! I'm thinking of building one of the gaming computers I seen on sharkeyextreme.com.
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It's the price. Like I said I would rather have a MAC. What did the Dell do this time? Mine don't seem to like upgraded RAM.
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I'm going to stream wid the pactime crowd. will check back later!
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cheap parts explode.
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Needed to eat. Food is funny stuff.
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So much easier than it should be, I'd say. Not always cheaper, but sometimes it is if you're patient. I watch for deals at Fry's and grab a few bits at a time. But keep receipts. I had a messed up motherboard once and had no idea until it was too late. Everything won't be cheap much longer. Now is a good time.
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It has been another great one. Have a great week. I'll probably pop back in again later and in the morning.
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Can't upgrade the power supply. So I can't upgrade the video card. So I can't run the newer games that need power, speed, and memory. So I play alot on my PS3. But I miss my mouse.
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Thanks for the knowledge. Later.
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mood:
http://tinyurl.com/37hqhp
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"VH1 spokesperson Lirpa Sloof", indeed.
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I'll definitely be using Lirpa Sloof. :p
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How fitting! Yahoo just posted this in their news. 15 bills linked to airplane hijacker DB Cooper will be up for auction in June. I'm posting this because Journeyman's "The legend of Dylan Mcleen" is loosely based on DB cooper. Pretty cool to see it on the news tonight! My last post for tonight! I'll check in this week!
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Long live Journeyman!
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Seeya next week...
Starting with episode 1. -
Apr 01, 2008 5:09:26 AM CDT
Lh:try "Avira AntiVir Personal Edition",it is for free.....
by travis-dane
and it provides you with everything you need.You can download it at their homepage,just Google it.
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I'll have to give that a shot on one of my boxes for a while.
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Another day. Well, that was a fun Moonday.
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Remember, next Monday for the first episode. I won't quit.
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