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JoBlo has the first look at the trailer for Will Smith's HANCOCK!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Over the last year I've heard nothing but good things about the script (surprising because there are more writers on this film than Oscars on Spielberg's shelf) and getting Will Smith to play a cranky, lazy superhero in a huge-budgeted comedy is pretty hard to mess up.
Now JoBlo got the exclusive to host the first trailer for HANCOCK and I gotta say... Despite a little evil inkling of similarity to the godawful MY SUPER EX-GIRLFRIEND I had a lot of fun with this trailer and am looking forward to the powerhouse I'm sure the movie will be come next Summer. It's hardly my most anticipated movie of '08... or even my most anticipated comedy (PINEAPPLE EXPRESS and YEAR ONE are), but it looks like a good time at the movies to me. What do you folks think?
YEAH, I KNOW... TONIGHT HE COMES WAS A BETTER TITLE, BUT HANCOCK SOUNDS JUST AS DIRTY... CLICK HERE TO SEE THE TRAILER!
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I could go either way.....and first bitches!
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It could go either way.
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No more Will Smith "acting" just like Will Smith !!!
AAuuuughghhghhghhhh!!!
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not so funny for whale. Or people on boat.
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This looks reaaallllly BAD!! Maybe Mr Badacting has made the worst movie of his CAREER !!!
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mehh!
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To actually make it into theaters?? This sucks... Who in the hell greenlighted this mess???
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that looks terrible...
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...potential. Like most I'm gonna say it can go either way.
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We just need a Glorious Quicktime HD Trailer.
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anyone else having that trouble?
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Looks to me like it could be funny, but I liked "My Super Ex-Girlfriend."
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The opening for this is going to be insane. Number one of the summer or at least top 3.
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Just pillow talk, I thought te dialog that it implied that it was a greenpeace boat that got hit. ( otherwise why didn't he say PETA? ) Greenpeace boats are like Ninjas...
"I thought [ninjas] just hung around airports and got sucked up into jet engines."
The trailer worked for me... someone who is not quite completely inept, but has no style or subtlety to his nature being a super hero. Seems like you could do something good with that. We'll see. -
So, I'm at work, in between workloads, figured I'd watch it. Started laughing (very loud) during the whale throwing scene.
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is right here for everyone to see. high quality, no heads in front of the screen. Don't tell the fresh prince! http://tinyurl.com/2zz7dj
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Dec 17, 2007 12:24:08 PM CST
At this point Will Smith could make a film where he played...
by rbatty024
Hitler as the ubermensch hero of WWII fighting against those insidious Allies, and it would still make mad bank. The guy is box office gold.
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.I did love her mini-arc on Arrested. Five writers on a comedy ( including Akiva Goldsman, can Will Smith take a shit without this guy attached? ) is never a good sign. The last time it worked was, I think, Blazing Saddles.
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I love anything associated with Peter Berg (Friday Night Lights, Very Bad Things) so I'll give it a shot. You got to admit it takes BALLS to cast Lauren Hill in ANYTHING.
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. . . JoBlo also has the first look at EVERY single thing later reported here and then some.
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Seriously, I've been waiting 5 minutes now.
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Someone was going to say it eventually.
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Um, 2, right? Am I missing some? Or Quint's comparison a dud?
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when it was called "Tonight, he comes" but I am a quite a bit disappointed with this trailer.
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Schindler - 2, SPR - 1?
Still, drop a mad slam like "This thing has as many writers as ScorCESE has Oscars"
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There, take out the spaces.
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well i cant really say i was blown away by this, but it does seem like smith can turn anything into gold, im sure ill be there opening day, especially if it has a badass trailer attached to it like legend had.
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I think it looks funny, I love characters who just don't give a shit.
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You know it!
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Two for directing, one for producing Schindler's List and then that life achievement one.
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It looks funny as all hell, and the effects look pretty good too.
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http://gamingshogun.com/Default.aspx?a=585
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A movie where I WANT to hear Will Smith say "Aww HELL NAW".
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Expect to see Lucas wearing the T-Shirt soon. It will be major news on this site.
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Yes, a slacker, hip-hop version of MY SUPER EX-GIRLFRIEND. Just what we needed. Thanks, Fresh Prince.
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I cannot invite in Hancock because his powers make him invincible! lol
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pretty decent effects work in this, unlike some OTHER Will Smith movies I can think of...
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uma thurman and anna faris can do not wrong. It was a fun movie.
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...wasn't the script supposed to be more "darker"? A little bit more drama? So maybe this has been rewritten into a light comedy or this is one of these trailers that seel a movie as something that it isn't. (Or I'm wrong informed.)
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Like the serious acting Tom Cruise musters in MI:Fill in the blank? If Smith loves the green, the green returns the favor. Smith's movies now average $120 million, topping Ford, Hanks, and Cruise. I know, popular and legit acting are two different things, but tell me he didn't act his ass off in I Am Legend....
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I was hoping this was going to be a biopic with Will Smith playing Tony Hancock. That would have been interesting to say the least. "That's very nearly an armful, motherfucker"
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lather-rinse-repeat
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Although not as funny as erichaislar's "I could go either way.....and first bitches!" comment. NEED EDIT BUTTON indeed.
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I just wanted to say AWWW HAIL NAW
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Wild, Wild, East!
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As Carrey, Cruise and, yes, Hanks have proven, every "beloved, Teflon movie star" has their saturation point. Smith seems more immune than most because he's chosen his movies much more carefully that the abovementioned guys, but even he will top out at one point. However, as he has succeeded in serious roles and comedies in equal measure, it may be a very long while before this happens.
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You should have sent people here:
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Down with Apatow!
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...are lame and repetitive. Even in the light of a great performance you basement-dwellers are repeating the same lame remarks you always have in regard to him.
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And I see JoBlo still has it listed on their site like it's somehow a legitimate script.
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I think that was directly connected to the Dark Knight trailer. I didn't hear one person talk about how they wanted to see that movie. Watch the box office drop off the table this next weekend...
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Please stop. please.
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Please stop. please.
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the majority of the movie going populace had NO CLUE that was attached. THe movie did well because of Will Smith and a great marketing campaign.
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the Will Smith hate. Okay, so he has a tag line; Aw hell naw. So what. There was a certain actor who many thought could barely act, wouldn't make it, has no range, and he had a tag line. It went: "I'll be back" and Arnold was time and time again. Smith does drama and comedy. You may not like every movie of his, (I'm talking to you I,Robot haters) but regardless of how you feel about the movie, the fact is he can act everyone on this site into the ground. Seriously, regardless of how you felt about I Am Legend, is there anyone out there who can say his acting was not superb? The dog scene, alone with the mannequins, zoning out when he encounters people because he's forgotten how to interact with them? Okay Hanks did it better in Castaway because he had much more alone time, but Smith was was great in this role
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they'll stop when Smith decides to stop saying in EVERY one of his movies -- you guessed it -- AW HELL NO!
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it won't make it up for I Robot or I am legend, though. Big Willie really needs to apologize to the fans. And fire his agent. The guy is gifted but couldn't chose a good script to save his life, not to mention his gigantic ego. No wonder he's friend with Tom Cruise now.
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I also think he ran into some problems when he was Jason Bourne...er, Matt Damon's caddy in that Golf movie.
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Bateman in a Summer Blockbuster with Big Willie? There must be a God.
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what the hell was the point of anything in that trailer? where was charlize? an oscar-winner can't even be the bait for a summer movie?
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Bagger Vance was a very good movie an an early indicator of how good Will Smith is. Now Wild, Wild, West. That's a story for the history books.
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Use different music in that trailer, and you have a fighting chance. Now....none.
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I tried the video on multiple browsers, it wont work. All I get is that annoying JoBlo animated logo.
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Even crap movies like I AM LEGEND inexplicably made a load of money. I think that Will Smith could fart and his fans would say it smelled like flowers. Could be this movie made bucks for other reasons that had nothing to do with Will Smith ... but it made the money nonetheless and he reaps the benefits. Underservedly or not.
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"Greenpeace does."
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Not what I expected from this being a much lauded and sought after script for so many years. I thought it'd be something a little more classic, or nostalgic and romantic, it must have changed quite a bit from the version Michael Mann was looking at doing.
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The public is sick of this anti-war films! Seriously, the trailer makes it look like it could go either way.
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At least that's what it looks like to me. Anyway, could be fun, could go either way.
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so i'll watch. probably crap, but whatever
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Enough already.
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Dec 17, 2007 6:46:12 PM CST
You did NOT just shoot that green shit at me!!
by itto ogami loses daigoro
Cuz dayam!
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From now on that's how you throw whales!!
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What happened to the 5 min footage article?
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That's black super hero material right there!
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the trailer wont load. probably stupid anyway. he can act but the movies he chooses are just meh overall.
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June 2009
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Still holding out hope for a Paul Revere biopic, then.
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He is a fine actor. He is also the biggest movie star on the face of the earth.
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JoBlo already took it off before I got there, so I don't know if this is the same one, but here's the teaser trailer:http://tinyurl.com/yq4zee
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...Is endearing and likeable. He's also a great actor. I mean that. Sincerely. I also sincerely think this trailer looks like a steaming pile of shit. LOL, he threw a whale. Special Effects gags, yay. No seriously, I didn't see anything funny or interesting in that trailer at all.
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Like Myspace and Youtube. Thats why this and Iron Man will fail to TDK.
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I hate fish.
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How do you take Will Smith seriously in anything with those ears?
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Do you really think Will Smith cares if a few critics don't like his acting or movies? He's laughing to the bank right now. Number one movie in the country, the biggest opening weekend in December ever....keep on hating haters.
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he makes more money than you...those ears must count for something.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GkC0IHCtdc is this it?
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Are part of his arsenal. Heres a guy whose insanely fit and attractive, rolling in money from lazy ass movies and yet people love him. Because his big ears and general squishy facedness makes him seem a little retarded and goofy. Its hard to hate on someone successful looking if they also look like a downey.
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and more money than you. Plus he has a fine ass wife.
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I'm not doubting it because I'll definitely be seeing both, but I have absolutely NO idea who will win. Batman is a better known character starring in an already established franchise. Iron Man looks great but we'll see if non-comic book reading types are into the idea of it. I am for sure.
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Was going to be a Jazz Biography for Herbie Hancock. Thought that might be cool but mis-cast. Turns out it's something much worse. Hope Don Cheadle is coming along with his Miles Davis project. Perfect fit for Davis. Denzel would've made a great Coltrane if he was 10-15 years younger... WTF am I talking about and why did I just bring this up?
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Thats why his movies make bank. White people see past the color thing. He's like Michael Jordan now.
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For what it was...it was great.
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Smith does not say that line in every film he's in as you claim he does.
He never said it in "Ali," "Pursuit of Happyness" or "I am Legend." I don't even think he said it in "Hitch." But I'm sure you'd prefer that he had so you can continue being hip with the rest of the savy talkbackers who have trouble comprehending actual facts. -
The man has range. Watch Six Degress, Enemy of the State, Pursuit of Happiness or Ali. Fucking dumbass fanboys.
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...now he's making a movie with "cock" in the title. Will his next film be called Alfred?
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meh.
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and i gotta admit that the oddly positive reviews for 'i am legend' from the old standard writers here have me curious enough to rent it next year.
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Dec 17, 2007 11:45:13 PM CST
Reason for all the Will Smith hate....on AICN anyway....
by kai_mah'gra
.....I'm just gonna throw it out there, but it's the truth so blow me. It's the black thing. Yeah, it is. Here's an actor who's refused to break out of the "urban" persona and lingo, for a good chunk of the characters he's played on screen, and yet has still somehow managed to not only remain successful through it all, but even now, as it seems, be the most bankable star working in Hollywood. And that just rubs a hell of a whole lot of the notoriously, how hall we say, prejudicially challenged, AICN talkback folk the wrong wrong way. Before you all jump on me, case in point; Nicholas Cage makes far worse movies on a far frequent and routine basis, and yet gets nowhere near the same crap Smith gets on this site. Watch and see if the National Treasure sequel talkbacks generate anywhere near as much hate. Ditto, Costner (when he was still making movies, which were, of course, mostly crap). Sorry, to say it, but the Will Smith hate thing is just a race thing,..... on AICN TB's anyway. Where the fact that a black, non-de-urbanified (if that's a word) or non-playing against (Stereo)type leading continues to attract crowds who can look beyond his race, and enjoy his movies, doesn't make sense to the anti-AW-HELL-NAW hordes. It must really suck to know that the guy is currently bigger than Cruise, Pitt, and even Hanks, in being as close to a sure thing at the Box Office as there is. Now pounce, Lemmings, pounce.....
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i gots to get me one of these! BELEE DAT NIHUH! o wait thats Martin Lawrence
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I don't think he's a bad actor at all. He did an amazing job in I AM LEGEND...It's just his movies have mostly been mediocre. Well, the blockbuster ones at least. Independence Day in hindsight was borderline comedy. I give it to the man for knowing what sells. As far as the non de-urbanified character that you speak of, Will Smith is extremely de-urbanified. In fact he's gotten alot of flack for not acting "black" enough. The reason that all these actors are movie stars are because of lots time showing the public their personality which in result will make them likeable. AHHNULD, Julia Roberts, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, and Brad Pitt and so on have all done this.....We then start substituting the actor's character with their real life persona...How many times have you seen a movie and describe it to somebody by saying the actor's name and not the character?
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A'ight.
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.....even though, I realize you're supposed to hate it on this site. But then again, I'm not a Lemming, so what the hey. And people on this site don't hate on Will Smith because his movies are "mostly mediocre", but rather because he's Will Smith. He got just as much love (or is that hate?) on AICN, for Ali and even Happyness last year, - in those 2 mostly mediocre Oscar nominated performances in 2 mostly mediocre but generally decent, if not straight-up non blockbuster-type movies.
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You do know that what you're saying is absolutely ridiculous right? Let me throw out a few names for you. Brett Ratner, Uwe Boll, Tom Cruise. What color are they again? EVERYBODY gets roasted on this site. There is no prejudice in roasting here at AICN. Anybody who is successful and therefore has more than the people who frequent this site, are the enemy. Nicolas Cage? I can't remember the last time someone said something good about his acting. Not only on this site but anywhere. This is like when Donovon McNabb came out this year and said no quarterback was critized and scrutinized more than he was and it was because he was black. That lasted all of ten seconds before an announcer asked him, "Hey, doesn't Rex Grossman get critized more than you?" That shut McNabb up. Point is that race place a part in things - yes. But in this issue, not at all. I can see why people don't like Smith and his "I love everything about the world" peaches and ice cream approach to life. That grates on people. It makes him seem fake, like he's hiding something. I personally like him and most of his films. Oh, and I'm white. Go figure.
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This movie looks f*cking hilarious!
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Although you may have a few racist dochebag TBers on this site, i doubt if the majority of the Smith hate is fueled by the fact that he's Black. Some just see him as a hack (Hitch, Wild Wild West & Bagger Vance) or the fact that he was'nt "Black" enough(from his rap career and "selling out") which is very fucking ignorant to make such an assumption. After seeing Six degrees, Enemy of the State and especially Pursuit, Will has range and may just earn his golden statue. Like one of the posters mentioned; Boll,Ratner,Anderson,Wiseman etc. have gotten their share of trolling and *Gasps* they are all White. To qoute that cheesy tagline from a certain Movie based on a certain survival horror videogame directed by a certain hack director: "No one is immune".
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Alan Arkin's 1980's musical superhero spoof "The Return of Captain Invincible"! And the movie had Christopher Lee in a wonderfully over-the-top villain role with his own signature song that began "Mai Tai say I'm Old-Fashioned."
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.......yes, it's funny to note that all of the examples you guys gave (save for Cruise; but then again he's gone batshit insane, and that's when his star began to fall anyway) are directors. None of whom appear in front of camera and for whom, of course, the colour of their skin isn't an issue affecting their marketability or "image", to the degree of someone who does appear in front of camera. All those supposedly lousy white actors out there and you could only come up with one example ( oh, and of course the Cage example which I had already pointed out)in comparison,- speaks volumes. Oh and geraldbeans, if you think there's no prejudice on roasting on this site, please come back and visit the next time a Martin Lawrence movie is reviewed or even any other black-themed movie (assuming it would ever get any air-time here, that is) and then visit the talkbacks and come back and talk to me about your "no prejudice" bullcrap.
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You're Robert Horry comment killed me. Will Smith: great in the clutch at draining three's!
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and so cool.
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Looks interesting, but I'll wait and rent it so I can fast-forward through the inevitable third act where he "learns to love again".
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Dec 18, 2007 9:05:44 AM CST
it would also be great if I spelled 'your' correctly
by just pillow talk
See what you do to me Robert Horry? Curse you!
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Have no real problem with Smith, although I do agree with the earlier comment that he's more a movie star than an actor. He certainly seems to gravitate towards "role model" roles, as if he were acting purely for the benefit of his kids. I'm trying to remember the last time he played any kind of 'negative' character...
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being arrogant or egotistical. I'm not talking about his roles, but real life which is what you're accusing him of. Dude, some guy in Japan fell asleep at the I Am Legend press conference (no jokes please), and Smith is teasing the guy (no maliciously) and later they get their picture taken together. Smith later said it would be arrogant of himself to get upset at someone because they've put in hard day at work and nodded off, or something to that effect. This was very humble and classy on Smith's part.
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does not christian bale terrence howard , keanu reeves (bad example) nicholas cage , shia lebeef, harrison ford , all play the same character? its and to prove this site is racist look at the get rich or die trying talk back as proof. Talkbackers act as if will smith is bad because he has a catch phrase ? which he doesnt even say in every movie? this seems like a case of nerds picking on the popular kid behind his back. His performance in pursuit of happyness , i am legend, six degrees , enemy of the state are all good to pretty good.the reason america watches will smith is because hes as close to a sure thing u can get nowadays in a movie in terms of making sure its enjoyable and you have a good time which is the primary purpose of every form of entertainment
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if something can entertain u and deliver a message thats great. but if im gonna pay for entertainment i want juist that to be entertained. i go to college to learn not the movies, i go to church to be preached to not the movies
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I'm pretty sure I gave two examples of movie stars. Both Cruise and Cage. Apparently they're not good enough for you because they ruin your argument. So here's another one: Mel Gibson. "But but but". If every white actor I mention has an excuse for why they get attacked, there's no point arguing this with you as you're obviously not willing to admit that you're wrong. If the sole reason that a movie star would be attacked on this site is because, as you say, he is black, how come Denzel Washington does not get treated the same way as Smith? How bout Sam Jackson? Or Morgan Freeman? They're black, right? Oh yeah, or is it because they're more respected actors? The unfortunate situation with Smith is that he started his career out as The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air. He was goofy, he couldn't act, and he had that song that none of us will ever be able to forget. It's hard for people to look past that and take Smith as a "serious" actor. Very simple. Nothing to do with race. But keep telling yourself that so you can keep the race war alive! Down goes Whitey!
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Sam Jackson gets slammed hard on this site. I get pretty tired of all the Sam Jackson jokes as well.
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but i am saying their are examples out there. The most uncomfortable talk back was the get rich or die trying ones. while the movie wasnt great the rapper comments where pretty bad. OH and i think the problem most of you have with will smith and movie stars are that they are popular and thats the main reason you hate them. Most popular actors and movies are decreed as shit here on this shit except maybe lotr.
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I take him pretty serious as an actor. Is Tom Hanks a joke cuz he started out on Busom Buddies?
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Dec 18, 2007 2:52:46 PM CST
Gerald beans the attacks on will are borederline offensive
by thareign23
most people seem to think the fact that he has a catchphrase which he does not even use in every movie makes him a bad actor is a pretty stupid argument. one he can act he did six degrees back in the prince days so where are you getting the he couldnt act thing from? and im sorry if him acting goofy and affable in a comedic sitcoms or movies with comedic elements make him a bad actor. should he be dark and grim all the time like christian bale who i love ? or weirdly eccentric all the time like christoper walken? why cant will simply be choosing roles he likes and relates too rather than being in it for paycheck. ?? bale and terminator 4 isnt a paycheck? outside of wwwest and id4 will has done good to great movies in my opinion.
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The talkbacks for movies that star or even feature are, at times (not all the time), absolutely appalling.
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The talkbacks for movies that star or even feature *RAPPERS* are, at times (not all the time), absolutely appalling.
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...that trailer wasn't funny. I also love the hate for Will Smith. The man is box office gold and yes I do love the fact that he is a brother. I love it when Haters hate. 76 million box for a tepid reviewed movie can't be wrong. Now, I'm not going to throw out the "R" bomb but you got to be a ass if you just throw up hate at Will for no reason. There is something to like for everyone in his film biography.
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Being a geek is always like being an outsider. You deal with shit all the time for our "geek culture". Therefore, if you know what it's like to ridiculed for what you are...how does it make sense to be racist? I might be overthinking this, i dunno.
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in the history of AICN.
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This movie is gonna rock!
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.....If you read my first post on this train of discussion you'll notice that Nicholas Cage was MY example, not yours. You don't point out what someone else has already mentioned and then claim it as you're own example. Cruise was the only new example you came up with, and as I pointed out, it's because he's so obvious (in his batshit insanity - scientology-induced of course -) that it would be kind of hard (and ridiculous) to dispute the fact that he gets crap on this site - his race not withstanding. And no, Mel Gibson doesn't get nearly the same amount of crap that Will Smith does - his anti-semitism notwithstanding either. As for your "black" counterpoint examples, how often do you see Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman playing the "stereotypical" black-guy/rapper or former rapper type role for which Smith supposedly gets lambasted for? Freeman and Washington are de fact leading men type in the mold of Sidney Poitier. Unlike Gooding Jnr or even Jamie Foxx, to recall 2 other black academy award winners. So there's no way you can give me a Washington or a Morgan Freeman and tell me that that's a fair or even valid comparison to a Will Smith; and you know this yourself. As for Sam Jackson ( yes, I hadn't forgotten about him, nor was I ignoring him), he's made a career out of playing a certain persona, not far removed from his own real life personality, of the big black badass yet cool angry black man. It works for him and it works for his movies and his place in pop culture. However, it also works against him in that you'll never see him heading a studios's Summer tentpole blockbuster ala Will Smith, because his appeal his likewise limited. So once again invalid comparison. In any case its a moot side-argument in light of the fact that at no point did I ever say that the only reason an actor, any actor, gets crap on this site is because of his race; I said the only seemingly valid reason that Will Smith, specifically, seems to get crap on AICN talkbacks specifically, despite his wide appeal elsewhere, both at the box office and in critics circles, is because of his race. You'll help yourself, and your arguments, a lot in understanding how that differs from your own distorted interpretation of what I was saying.
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Has it waaaay worst than Will Smith on here. And Jamie Foxx i've seen get ragged on here hard too.
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I've always talked about having superpowers, like flight, and just flopping your body around in the air carelessly, smashing into things because it wouldn't hurt. Seems like somebody else thought that would be a funny idea too. I can't wait to see this. It looks pretty fucking funny.
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I like meteorman for what it is, also.
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He's a great actor and he's in some great movies. Fuck you guys, Independence Day is awesome, don't shit and piss on that movie and then go see Cloverfield and act like it's not the same selling points that got you into the theater. Watching aliens blow shit up is fun. The ships looked awesome in that movie, The aliens looked awesome. And The scene where the alien uses data's vocal cords to talk to people was awesome. Fuck you guys.
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Every scene in that movie is priceless. Really clever, great special effects, and Will Smith only makes it better. Fuck you, anybody who disagrees.
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The chick at the end was kinda worthless, but every other scene was great. Will Smith rocked in it. It was fun to watch him and the dog. Fuck everybody who reads this site, and most of the people who write for it. I'm right, you're wrong. I win.
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Independence day and Men in black are awesome, and if Will Smith couldn't act then he couldn't have made Pursuit of Happyness which is a hard movie to dislike unless you've had everything in your life given to you. But everytime someone says AW HAYL NAW its funny, Will Smith does ham it up. often.
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evrytime a Tom Cruise movie comes out
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I'd love to see you explain that to Will Smith's face. And I'd also love to see the fantasy depiction of him seriously taking your advice. "You've changed me sir. Thank you, whoever the fuck you are"
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Dec 18, 2007 11:33:35 PM CST
hancock could go either way but to me it looks interesting.
by thareign23
I'm going to go see it. Out of curiousity why doesn't hulk have a trailer? It comes out before this and ironman doesnt it and I've seem nothing for it.the site is also really empty. What's up with that?
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Dec 19, 2007 1:12:04 AM CST
honestly Kai, you're right - I don't know what you're saying
by geraldbeans
Because you're twisting everything you say in each subsequent post. At the beginning of your first post I'm pretty sure you said, point blank, "it's a black thing". Pretty clear to me. That would imply that you meant... "it's" "a" "black" "thing". Meaning it's because he is black. So the other actors I mentioned fall under that category. They are black too. Are you saying that in order to be used as a black example you have to have taken the exact same career path as Smith. Have a hit sitcom, make the biggest movie in a decade, follow it up with a couple more blockbusters, get a chance to do some more serious work, etc., etc., Yeah because so many black actors have been afforded that path. I don't know what to tell you. Is it a black thing or isn't it? If it is (in your eyes), then Washington, Freeman, and Jackson fall under that same category. At least I think they do. As for Cage, he became my example because you were wrong. Cage gets blasted on this site. He's a joke actor now, an "entertainer", as Penn said. Geeks here feel the same way. If you're going to use an example, at least use one that supports your case. People don't like really successful people that are happy, seem to have it all, and, in the public's opinion, aren't that talented (an insinuation that Smith himself acknowledged about himself in a recent interview). So they complain and make fun of him. Big deal. It's not malicious at all. When Ben Affleck was the biggest movie star in the world and people started making fun of him, was it because he was black too? Oh wait, he was white. And he was still made fun of?? But how can that be? I thought that only happened to black actors because everybody here is racist. I'll say this for you one more time. Talkbackers don't discriminate. They make fun of everyone. I apologize but this topic is closed for me. I won't be checking it anymore because nothing you've said has had any legitmacy whatsoever.
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......... can't put up a coherent argument so we run like a bitch, claiming the other person has no "legitimacy" (hint: you really should seriously look up the meaning of the word before you go mucking it up, trying to put someone else down). As for your other so-called counterpoints, to begin with, my argument was regarding Will Smith being a black actor, SPECIFICALLY, and not as a hard and fast rule regarding all black actors in general. Try to let that digest and sink in before you proceed any further, trust me it'll help. This means that, Denzel Washington is also a black actor but is not likely to fall to the same level of crap ( as Smith is given on AICN talkbacks) despite the fact that he's also black. It means that Sidney Poitier is not likely to fall under the same level of crap because he, like Washington, transcend the whole race thing in the minds of the same crap-issuers on this site because of their, respectability as actors and their breadth of their career works (which, obviously Will Smith does not have). Again, the "it's THE black thing" comment ("THE" black thing, not "a" black thing as you typically misquoted me) as I mentioned it was SPECIFIC to Will Smith, in this case and not a hard and fast rule. At no point did I state that this is the rule when if and when it comes to all black actors as I've already pointed out with the examples of Washington, Poitier and Freeman.Try to appreciate the difference between what I've just said and between what you're trying to convince yourself I said, and you'll go a long way in helping yourself not trip all over your perpetually convoluting logic. And when I pointed out Cage, I believe it was when I was giving a comparison of a crappy white actor who craps out bad movie after bad movie, and yet gets nowhere near the SAME amount of crap or hate that Will Smith does. Does he get crap? Absolutely. Does he get anywhere near as much as Smith does? Not even close. And that was my point, you genius. And as a case in point I told you to watch for the National Treasure sequel talkback and compare the hate on that TB to what Smith gets. How in world in your loony little mind is that a wrong example that doesn't support my argument? And then you go and give him as your example and claim it as one of the only 2 actors you could come up with. Reading skills are seriously under-rated. You seriously think talkbackers don't discriminate? that tells me you haven't been on these talkbacks or on AICN for very long. I'll say again just hoping it gets through this time; next time a Martin Lawrence movie or a black-themed movie, or a movie featuring a rapper-turned actor is released and reviewed on this site, visit the talkback and see if you can come back with your "Talkbackers don't discriminate" bullcrap. Oh, but wait I forgot, that's right, you're running, aren't you..........like the fine courageous little debater you are. So I guess we won't be hearing again from you anytime soon. Run cupcake, run. I weep for the human race.........
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it's gonna rake in money
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starring in carefully picked scripts that utilize his acting potentual like Enemy of the state, Ali and Pursuit of happiness as opposed to dumb ass big budget movies like Independance Day, Wild Wild West,Bad Boys and MIB2. Smith has range especially for an ex rapper. Only a hater would typecast Smith in lame ass comedies. Oh and M-O-M, unfortunatly for you, guys like Gerrad Butler was unavailable to be cast as Neville, because he was shooting dumb ass chick flicks like P.S. I love you and dropped out of the EFNY remake due to "creative differences". (sarcasm intended)
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