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Why So Serious? THE DARK KNIGHT blitz continues with another badass Joker poster!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I gotta say, I've dug all the DARK KNIGHT posters that have hit in the last 60 hours or so, but this below image is my favorite. I'm a macabre kind of guy and I love the fucked up quality and creepiness of the below poster. Of all the images, this is the one I'd put up on my wall. Thanks to "LA" for sending this out!
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not interested
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...I really could go without nightmares about psycho clowns thank you very much.
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But then they have chosen an almost Viral method of marketing this film. Now give me a real Trailer....
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even if it causes my wife to leave me.
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Good stuff!
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My 6 yr old is gonna freak out with Heath staring at her like that lol
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My god this movie is going to kick unholy ass. I can't believe I have to wait alll the way to july.
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I wonder if the other teaser posters will use the more of those images, like the "30% off Purple Coats at Macy's" image.
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And sends the message that this flick is not for small children. A+ design.
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I like it muchly
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Wowsers !! This one is the best so far!! All Hail The Joker !!!
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writing backwards. I'm just kidding, it looks bad ass. The biggest upside to this site being pumped relentlessly by Warner Bros over Batman is that it might make Spielberg respond in kind and give us more Indy shit. Because let's be honest, friends of mine. This movie might look and sound awesome but in the end it's just going to be comic book character fighting comic book character, with some clever comic book character plan to rule/fuck up the world that gets foiled and the girl gets captured and comic book character has to go save her and beat the other comic book character. But the Indy movie, I honestly don't know what to expect. I'm looking forward to Batman but Indy is the movie of the summer.
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I saw "I am Legend" last night, and all I could think about during the movie which got boring after the re-use of a screaming cgi infected again and again was the Dark Knight trailer. I'm psyched......but it sucks to wait that long.
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Who cares about any of this tripe, it still isn’t the Joker or Batman for that matter. Just like back in 89 everyone is being hyped right back into bullshit. Ooooo it’s edgy and dark and balls and stuff.
Thanks for your money suckers.
My how the times never seem to change. Boo Hoo Ha Ha!
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... is what that is right there my friends.
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I want that for my office.
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Next summer your kids gonna behave like the Joker. That's for sure.
"Look Ma. A Joker's knife in my happy meal!!" -
I dig the untraditional appraoch this poster takes
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like someone in another thread said- the original concept was that the joker's face was painted- either so much or by such caustic paint that his skin eventually was stained by it.it was kind of his own punishment by that point, driving him madder. so i have a feeling that this story kinda goes that way. Face it, if you want to look like a clown, are already nutso, and need to go commit heavy crimes- do you go by some drug store halloween makeup that will rub off in the wind?- or do you grab the cheap, lead filled old expired white industrial paint you have laying around your abandoned warehouse?my guess is the latter, and there's no tellin' what enough treatments of that will do. if anyone wants to try, let us know. in every pic it looks like the black and red run, but the white (that in early pics looks so thickly applied) begins to stain and crack off, revealing his skin kinda looks grayish white as a result.we can hope?
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Awesome poster! I agree its the best of the ones shown so far. Cant wait till it arrives! Christmas is coming early this year!
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is more disturbing then the poster
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Everything else in 2008 will be but a prelude - Indy included.
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The are SO over selling this movie. Even more, they're making the same fuckin' mistake that they made with every other Battard movie. They're selling the bad guy as the main attraction. HELLO!!! The movie's "The Dark Knight", as in Bat-fucking-Man. It's not "Joker's Super Pyscho Hour."
WB is selling this shit so hard that it's going to be the letdown of the summer. Every fanboy will go in having so many dreams of a movie that'll never be. It's going to be like MIB2, where every plot point, every gag, and anything even remotely cool was spoiled before you even bought a ticket.
We've got months to go and WB has got the hype machine so far into high gear that they can't see that they're oversaturating the market with pre-packaged buzz.
I'm going to see this movie, with the slight hope that it won't suck. However, I've got no faith in WB, Nolan's crappy re-envisioning (hated Begins), and Brokeback the Clown. -
hilarious. that so many parents dismiss batman as just another comic book character that their kids like. they don't look down on him and the world so to speak but it's just a funny culture shock when they think of batman and then realize the real batman. This is going to fuck those parents up.
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....just made me come a little bit.
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The kick ass 3D one that came in the 55 gallon drum because you could only bend it SO much. It was so much fun watching it scare the shit out of people in the lobby.....Good time, good times...
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So far I'm digging the posters, but I'm hoping that there's even more surprises in store. Because if the expectations bar gets raised too high, then we all know what the outcome will be.
Pissed off fanboys!
On a lighter note, imagine if the Batman series was done by Uwe Boll? Just hold that thought for a second. :p -
its weeks like this one that remind me why I love AICN.
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true story
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http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=3268
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Nothing will ever be better then the original Batman poster. Thats gotta be one of the top ten posters of all times.
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see above
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is real hype. Internet fanboys do not represent the general public. Until we start seeing TV commercials every half hour and every magazine has the Joker's face painted on it, it's not hype. If anything, the internet is a test marketing ground.
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see above
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That is one hell of a poster.. Whoever came up with that one needs a promotion.
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You're an idiot.
You're one of those geniuses who think the internet is a fad. This is the first step for this information, kiddo. It starts here and goes...there...and there. It's viral marketing at it's best.
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I see parents and some fanboys all saying they hate the reboot by the Nolans and Goyer. "Its not for Kids," "Burton's was better." "Jack Nicholson owned the Joker," and more Brokeback Joker cracks than I care to even contemplate.
The basic point of what I'm trying to say is this. It different. Its new. It is a reboot, and to be honest it is the closest thing we comic fans have had to Batman as we know him.
"Gotham is no Downtown Chicago," I read in one post. But we forget the Uber Gothic Gotham was in fact an invention of Burton. And who the fuck would live in the Atlas statue ladden city of... I won't even say his name. Gotham would be a real place, the architecture in ChiTown isn's as overpowered by modern galss buildings as NYC so I think it was a good choice.
I'm rambling; basicly look. Comic Batman is not for 6 year olds, nor does every comic flick need to be kid friendly, the best haven't been. Joker is not Cesar Romero or Nicholson...maybe not Ledger. He will always be however we think of him in or heads. Gotham should be a real city. And We are going to have a hell of a time at the movies in Summer 08! Lighten up sit back and enjoy the ride gentlemen -
Sometimes you guys forget we're not the majority, we spend time on sites like this and as a result we seek out the overexposure you are complaining about. The only released poster to us was the brick wall one. The next two were itnernational posters that I still don't know how those brazillian sites got. This is just a pitcure somebody took at their local theater, so this poster hasn't been "released" online. Also, the trailer people are watching is a bootleg. It's not oversold, being a regular visiter to a movie site just means you are asking for oversaturation. Also, the viral campaign was aimed at diehard fans only, people who were gonna see the movie no matter what anyway.
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Need to calm down on the Dark Knight hype. Pretty soon it'll be like Evan Almighty and I'll know the entire movie with never spending a second watching it, just because of all the tv spots and previews. Dark Knight doesn't need this much hype for us to know its good, that was all done with BB.
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first off check the news page and a few articles below this one is TDK trailer.
second, if your worried about spaces in your links use TinyUrl like it says right below where you type your comment.
Third, if you tilt your head ever so slightly and squint you'll see a fat guy with a camera phone in the poster, hmmmm clue maybe. -
Party eh? Sorry I'm late ;-)
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A lot of people still have no clue that this movie even fucking exists. Go and talk to someone who is not a dork and who hasn't heard about this already. They'll say, "But they DID the Joker already! He died!" Then when you say they're doing it in the Batman Begins universe, they MAY say, "Oh, who's playing him?" They may also say, "Oh, I didn't see that."
This is what is referred to as the Real World. They don't know about whysoserious.com. They don't know the words "permawhite" or "comics origin." They probably don't know what a "teaser poster" is or anything like that.
The hype for the Real World, in which the Internet World is just a tiny subculture, has just barely started. We've had one magazine cover in England, just recently we've gotten posters (which I haven't seen at the movies yet), and there's one trailer to one movie.
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to buy all of the posters that have come out so far, ALL OF THEM! And "Evan Almighty" and "MIB2"? How can you even compare this movie to either of those? Who waited for "Evan Almighty" a year in advance, counting down the days until they finally could see the unstoppable sequel to "Bruce Almighty?" Tell me who.
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Batman wasn't like the comics because he doesn't read comics! But he probably saw the TV show, and as far as I am concerned the first Batman movie is a TV show to movie. But Burtons batman poster, and the fact that he has kiss in the soundtrack owns all of Nolans posters and music. And I really liked the BB music, but the original is so much better. And there is no way you can beat the first Batman poster, no matter how new poster posts AICN creates.
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No, the internet is not a fad (*sigh* what a douchebag). But the majority of the world doesn't use it to seek out material on movies that won't be out until next year. Most people so far have seen the teaser trailer, maybe. Even as far as internet stories go, there's been more hype about the Star Trek movie, which won't be out in a full year.
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I really like it. I'm not much of a horror film fan, but I am a Batman fan, and the Joker is a horror film character if ever there was one. I mean, it's a psychotic clown who sneaks around carving smiles into people's faces and manipulating an entire metropolis to turn against its own police force. What's not horrorific about that?
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Burton's thing does seem to be to take something innocent and child-like and make it otherworldly and dark. Big Fish, Edward Scissorhands, Willy Wonka, Nightmare Before Christmas, etc... So he did it with 60's Batman and made it dark and strange and weird. Worked out okay, but like all Burton's films it was a lot of show and almost no depth. Eh. Whuddyagonna do?
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can safely say he is NOT a "macabre" kind of guy
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That is really really fucking cool.
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People who aren't movie and comic geeks are barely aware that this is even coming out yet. They've only just begun to sell.
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...sounds like the name of an emo band... anyway, this is lame... I mean what? Didi he go and by that killer-makeup from Sharon Stone in Catwoman? We do have something called the FDA and the CPSC in this country, ya know. The whole idea's as ridiculous as the "stage makeup that gives you shape-shifting powers" from Batman Animated.
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Way to grab that and run with it, fucko.
You'RE the one insinuating that this is a fad and useless. Your Star Trek comparison is a fucking joke. Most people don't even know or care about that movie.
This is called sewing the seeds you knob.
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That's awesome.
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trailer looked ok for an action flick. I saw M16's, Nazi Reichtstahl goose stepping troops, explosions, flying semi's alight with flame, you name it.. but it didn't have the look/feel of Batman. looked like Bad Boys III.
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Dec 14, 2007 1:34:18 PM CST
Well, at least they don't try to sell it as a kids movie.
by derlanghaarige
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in terms of basis Gotham got its basis on Newark NJ, which was always in the crime infested shadow of Sups Metropolis/NYC splendor.
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I was leery at first, but I'm really starting to fall in love with Heath's Joker. I cannot fucking wait for this movie. And for anyone complaining about this movie being over hyped, step away from your computer and go look in the mirror you fuck tards; that's where the hype is coming from - us.
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I think HE's the real Joker, and Heath Ledger is just a double.
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well not quite viral...but ya know what i mean once u see it....it includes what was sent to perez hilton. Dont know if any other movie site/ psuedo celebs received this? seems cool
and i dont know wat became of it
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get out once in a while. most people will find out heath ledger is the joker when the movie comes out.
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...and now this? Why didnt they just let Burton do Batman III??
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Dec 14, 2007 2:45:46 PM CST
This all screams of them being unhappy with Begins' BO performan
by performingmonkey
They really need to push this because, like Begins, it isn't aiming at the douche teen market or the little kid market, and yet they still need to get the audience. Whatever, it's gonna be one hell of a movie. What Begins was lacking was a great villain, the reason for that being they wanted to focus more on Bruce/Batman than ever before. This time they don't need it so much (but you can guarantee he'll still have more focus than any of the previous Bats flicks) there's room for The Joker to be a huge imposing character. Whenever he's in the comics he's an overwhelming figure, center of insanity. It seems to be transferring to the screen well. Nicholson's Joker was a different creation. Burton's first Batman is all over the place with the ending being a joke (not a pun). Although it has some great quotes 'never rub another man's rhubarb!' 'he stole my balloons!' etc. all Nicholson lines. Batman Returns was a lot better, but again still not faithful enough Batman for my liking. Now the chance has arisen for the best adaptation yet. Better than the comics. Mwahahahaha!!!!!!!! Let's put a smile on that facE!!!
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Try to relax. Other people in this same thread are saying the same thing. As for Trek, there has been a separate news story for each casting decision, right down to Red Shirt #5 and for every time Shatner declared whether or not he would be in it. You think those are news stories and not marketing? So this movie has two trailers and 4 posters, most of which no one has seen yet. It's going to be a competitive summer, it's going to get a lot worse. Now break your pills in half from now on.
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How in the world are they over-hyping this movie? They've released one teaser, one theatrical trailer that debuts today, and a viral campaign. I think they are marketing this movie quite well, both building excitement with fanboys and regular movie-goers alike. the reason the marketing is emphasizing the joker is because hes such a universally recognized villain, maybe second only to darth vader. There is a lot of anticipation about his portrayal, so obviously theyre going to play that up. if you really hate the marketing of this film that much, its not too difficult to avoid it. There are films out there that deserve more flak for oversaturating the market: Spider-Man 3, PotC, Transformers, MIB 2...these are the egregious offenders. Dark Knight has handled itself pretty well compartively in my opinion.
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Dec 14, 2007 3:30:41 PM CST
We've seen Batman throughout the 90s. Jokers been MIA since '89.
by gibsonusa
Thats why they are selling it on Joker, dummies.
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Burton's Batman was dark and twisted for the sake of being dark and twisted. Burton turned a pro-PETA burglar into a supernatural dominatrix, and a tuxedo-wearing mob boss into a mutant leader of a sewer circus who bled fecal matter. And, as with all Burton movies, there was the constant presence of choir boys chanting "La la la la..." in the background. Burton even warped Batman himself, portraying him as willing to kill evil-doers.
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...reminds me that you can't make everyone happy. I'm glad that Nolan and co. have decided to aim for the non-douchebag demographic, because we are obviously getting how great it is.
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...is up at comingsoon: http://tinyurl.com/2z2hzk and I think I like this one most of all.
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I've got one now because of that poster!! :)
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I fear this Joker.
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Need I remind you? http://tinyurl.com/2jm8k6
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That's what of the coolest posters I've ever seen...
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does the knight slash the joker or something?
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Just go kill yourself.
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Not at all! If you sunk $150 mil into something or whatever the budget for this may have been, you'd be out there promoting the hell out of it too, ya morons! This isn't like Godzilla..THAT was overhypage at it's worse.
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The hate that brews for this movie is insane some of you guys are actually insane how is the movie being hyped up?
I just wanted to see some footage that we get a cool fucking trailer is even better. The film looks awesome, now can the whiners stop bitching and enjoy the trailer it's probably going to be the last we see of TDK before the Summer season starts. -
The difference between that ad campaign and this one is that the former made us forget that Lucas couldn't write dialog to save himself and the latter is backed up by someone with deft skill in the screenplay and directing departments.
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The general public is seeing it's first images from the Dark Knight now that a full trailer is out. Most people don't know that there's a another movie on the way. You know because your into movies. By the way if you think this is hype, you might want to hide the closer we get to the movies release. I'm liking most of what they've put out so far. lates.
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The MADNESS, The INSANITY, the sheer fuckin TWISTED BLISS, the WOOD I am sporting right now for how fucking FREAK SHIT SIIIIICK this movie will turn out to be, and this is just the poster!! Why oh WHY can't this be the first big comic character (not taking away from Blade) movie to have a glorious "R" rating???!! WHHHHYYYYYYY!!!!.........okay the voices have stopped, haha. Damn this poster is so on the money. All hail The Dark Knight. The Summer of '08 can't come fast enough!
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Does the Joker put make up on his cock too?
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scattered, smoothered, and covered in red lipstick and white cake make up, with a tinge of green dye.
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This looks cool insomuch Nolan's direction on this latest iteration of the source material. However, anyone that has an appreciation for that source material knows that this character is not Freddie Kruger meets Norman Bates.And Heath Ledger has never been menacing. Not even when he spat into his palm.
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Even Burton wasn't happy with it. He loved making Batman Returns which he basically turned into his trademark "nightmare before christmas" look with weird, dark characters.
The first Batman was great when most people were only familiar with the Adam West series. Jack Nicholson had fun with the role, we had a pumping score and gothic looking city.
But Batman was not the ninja/detective that we saw in Begins. Keaton could barely move in the suit and Nicholson wasn't nearly psychotic enough as the Joker.
I mean, doesn't everyone remember the whole Joker killed my parents nonsense? The scene where Batman lets two crooks shoot him a close range? The head piece that never moved? The Batwing with the convenient balloon cable grappling devices? Michael Keaton's weirdo little man Bruce Wayne?
This film, so far, looks like a step in the right direction. I have yet to see a crap Nolan film. The Following, Insomnia, Memento, The Prestige and Begins were all kick-arse films. Why not give him the benefit of the doubt? -
Dec 15, 2007 12:12:56 AM CST
"Batman was not the ninja/detective that we saw in Begins"
by immortal_fish
"Batman was not the ninja/detective that we saw in Begins"Please explain to me how Begins had the character more in the role of a detective than did the first Burton flick.I don't dig on Burton's Batman flick as definitive by any stretch. And yet, at least his Batman could fight, figure stuff out, and invent his own stuff. Nolan's Batman can only fight... not that we can decipher much of it. And that's kinda it. Lucius Fox was the one that invented stuff and figured everything out.Take Fox out of Nolan's Bat and you eliminate the detective aspect of the character.
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Batman '89 did have a perfectly choreographed ninja fight with an actual unmasked ninja with two swords...right after the museum. Remember? He has a martial arts fight that ends with his palm thingy jacking the guy, and then he swoops like Mark McKinney in that Kids in the Hall sketch...'Mind if I swoop?'...Immortal...Huh...Okay,Nolan's Bruce Wayne is no inventor, but he /is/ a detective. He surveils the bad guys, using long distance mics and enhanced hearing and taking photos surreptitiously and even dressing like the homeless. I'm sorry if you missed it, but the Begins movie is like a procedural action flick for vigilantism rather than cops. Standard cop-show detective undercover work. As for '89 Batman, that Bruce Wayne used his superkickass computers and such to solve the Smilex mystery. I guess he was supposed to be a chemist, too, to know how to identify it, and a bit of a weirdo.Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne is a favorite of mine; edgy, weird, and seemingly at a loss for how society works. But his Batman hasn't aged very well...a superhero who can fight but has to move his head with his shoulders to look around? Yeah, good luck with that when most of the guys will have submachine guns...His tear-away rubber mask also gives me the jibblies.In a fight, straight up, Nolan's Batman would snatch Burton's Batman right off the set of Halloweentown, and the sickening crunch you hear from the dark would be the REAL Dark Knight teaching that phony a lesson.To me, Batman has been the Denny O'Neal version...lean, mean, and relies on his stuff as well as his mind, but the criminals are scared of him, because he's to criminals what criminals are to most folks. Nolan's Batman harkens back to those days, for my money.Batman '89 would welcome a Robin character because it would be 'off-the-wall' and 'unexpected'. Nolan's Batman would NEED a Robin to keep him from becoming a brooding, dark monster all the way through, focusing only on the grim and ugly things in life.Lucius Fox, to be fair, didn't invent jack, he oversaw R&D on all the gadgets that Wayne needed to use in his nightly crusade against those who would prey on the fearful. So, no points for him, it's to give the movie versimilitude. No one in the 'nearly real world' of Begins is a chemist, scientist, detective, inventor, multibillionaire. They tried to make it comic-book-y, but not to stretch the suspension of disbelief wafer thin.I fall in the camp of '89 was a good Batman when you compare it to '68 Batman. And has memorable moments, and was one of my favorite movies for a LONG time. But Nolan's Batman IS Batman for today, like it or not. And yes, he needs a new director of photography for the action pieces involving multiple foes, or something to give us more than the horrified faces of the criminals witnessing the brutal maiming of their cohorts.But, then again, I want to FEAR the Dark Knight...to understand that when your buddy Knuckles doesn't reply to your call, you know that soon, you'll feel the mailed gloves around your body parts and then the screaming and breaking begins, and you wonder if Batman's going to leave you alive, or go too far this time.I can't wait for this flick.
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Amen to every bit of that.
If I might add to the unrealistic of Burton's Batman, Batman's costume also featured eyeshadow attached to the mask (as seen in Batman Returns); and a thick leather cape that never got in the way (during the scene in which Batman first encounters Jack Napier, where he is hits a man with his forearm from behind a wall, you can plainly see how two very different capes were used in that scene). As for Robin, I actually hope that Nolan NEVER gets around to him. There are soooo many ways to wrongly portray Robin. But that won't stop me from suggesting a portrayal of my own liking:
First of all, change Robin from a 14-year-old boy to a 14-year-old girl. Not only is that presedented by comic book cannon, but it's also much more alluring. (Robin IV was a girl, and so was the Robin from TDKR.) Next, completely revamp the costume. Even Tiny Toons made fun of the fact that Robin's costume serves only to draw fire away from Batman LOL. Let's try a costume composed mostly of blacks or very dark greens, with some equally dark reds. Give the girl a mask that covers much more of her head. Between she and Batman, she needs the protection more than he does, right? -
The comics Batman, had a guy that built all his nifty stuff for him for the most part, the Batmobile, and stuff.
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Not the poster - that kicks butt. What annoys me is the fact that you have a bunch of droolers on this site yammering about how this or that isn't the Joker, but never follow up with what exactly this nearly 70 year old character is supposed to be.
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Okay...I'm the guy who's walking into a theater lobby to see...let's say...'Atonement' with my girlfriend. When she goes to take a piss before the movie, I look at the posters for coming films, and this poster of this fucked up looking guy writing something in (blood?) some liquid...and a question 'Why So Serious?'. I'd be confused for a sec, then see the Batman logo, and go 'Holy Shit. The Joker! That's awesome!'...This guy that I'm portraying here has the attention span of a hamster, and doesn't spend his time on the 'net looking this shit up, he's the casual flick fan. He hasn't been scouring the web playing the ARG for the media blitz, or looking at aintitcool.com for the last couple of months for sneak peeks at pics of a damned Hong Kong airport.So, you want to make someone notice your movie...you make a poster like this, and put the Batman logo at the bottom. The Begins poster was just the symbol made of bats right? I can't remember, because it was just simple, without anyone's face. Both of the posters don't show faces, really, just iconic images of the two main characters...Batman...and the Joker. You see just this poster, and you're intrigued...Let's compare this to Batman and Robin's menagerie of banners hanging all over the lobby, showing everyone from Bane to Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze, including Batgirl's sausage casing suit, and the Bat-Nipples, et al. For crying out loud, they SATURATED the marketing with those posters for EVERY character. As an aside, around the same time Judge Dredd was coming out, and I was looking forward to it. When they unmasked him, it was more than a little disappointing, but the media blitz wasn't in the mix there, I did actually see it in the theater, and I liked it...but because I like Sly in just about any damned thing....So, you see, this isn't oversaturation or preferring the enemies to the heroes...not yet, anyway.I can see the point in emphasizing the Joker as being a little pandering to the set that would like it. BUT. If the average filmgoer sees this poster, what it will do is remind them of the last five minutes of the last flick, and get them in the mood for a new Batman movie, and wondering what the hell this new Joker is all about.Finally, ask yourself if in this age of kids who think it's the height of comedy to gang beat up one of their peers and set it to music and put it up on YouTube, that 'Wait 'till they get a load of me.' is going to even penetrate their media gummed brains. Yeah, the 13 and ups I know...(a few younger relations, and their friends)...they'd laugh their asses off at the Nicholson Joker, and would like this (and I HATE MYSELF FOR USING THIS WORD AT ALL...) "juggalo" Joker. This, too is the Joker for our times. Not the avant garde anti-establishment 'tortured artist' but a sick fuck with a lot of knives. This guy would give Batman a run for his money, because his plans are not simple criminality or epic world-domination, they're just unbridled mayhem wrapped around a sick turd's sense of humor.I think the actual poster should show just that white wall with the Batman logo/Joker face. Most casual guys wouldn't know right off who Ra's Al Ghul is, unless they watched the Animated Series faithfully or caught the episode with him in it. But EVERYONE knows that when you say Batman...his main nemesis is The Joker, and that's what people were excited about at the end of Batman Begins.
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This is the Joker...elements of the Jack Nicholson depiction:- Vanity turned into Self-Loathing- A run of the mill criminal somehow driven mad, or already mad, and looking for thrills- Revenge against society or one man he sees as his rival for the attention he cravesWhat would I like to see in a Joker in the films that would make me happy? The Joker started as a roman a clef of the myriad grotesques in 'Dick Tracy's' rogue's gallery, in my opinion. He morphed into a showman as time went on, getting more and more outlandish with his schemes to defraud and demoralize the citizens of Gotham and make Batman look like a damned joke. Finally, around the 70s, Joker had to compete with darker Batman villains like Two-Face's more brutal turn, and the horrific Man-Bat...so the Joker stepped up his game and became ruthless as well as flamboyant, as in the JokerFish escapade. I want a film version to be true to the universe it sets up. This Joker would be out of place in, say, the old Batman TV-Show. Just like Egghead or the Liberace villain (I can't remember the name at the moment) would be woefully out of place with their cleverly and hackneyed-named henchmen in Nolan's Batman universe.The question isn't 'what is or isn't the Joker' really. The Joker has been a lot of things over the years. He's gone from typical criminal with a gimmick into THE icon of the 'bad clown'. What I want is the prototype for the Miller 'Dark Knight Returns' Joker. A man whose obsession with Batman becomes a struggle of ideologies and wills with the arena being Gotham City.Sorry, I'm a comics/movie dork, and I love the Nolan Batman. If you don't like this movie, it doesn't change my opinion one bit. Woe to those who allow 'haters' or 'fanboys' to waver their opinions one way or another. I personally think this is great for what Nolan has done before. Sorry if you pine for the days when Cesar Romero had a goddamned moustache under his makeup, and constantly mugged for the camera, and upstaged the Riddler...Hey, the past is back that way, and it's a nice place, from what I understand.I'll forge ahead, thanks, and take the great with the bad.
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“and the sickening crunch you hear from the dark would be the REAL Dark Knight teaching that phony a lesson”
Micturatingbenjamin what are you, 10? You must really be David Goyer because that writing was as painful dialogue in Blade 3.
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Is that an international poster?
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SUMMER 2008
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whoot!
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A bit late but why do you think internet hype isn't real hype?
We're not in 1995 any more. Everyone has the internet these days. If you think the net is just a handfull of nerds still then you need to wake up. Anyone with a passing interest in movies (the majority of the world) will know their fair share about The Dark Knight. It's everywhere online therefore it's every knows about it.
If it's hyped on the internet then it is officially hyped - the TV and mags are just a reminder for those with a short attention span nearer the film's release. -
To be honest with you, I do love Romero's Joker. I love Nicholson's and Hammill's Joker, and, having loved Batman Begins and Nolan's take on the whole mythos, Ledger's Joker seems to be one of the coolest translations of the character ever.
My point was that you, so far, seem to be one of the very few people who will back up your claim. See, typically, all one usually sees on sites like these are "Ledger's gonna suck! That's not the Joker!"........ aaaaand, what is the Joker, then? Again, the character is three decades short of a century old. One of the most brilliant aspects of the Batman mythos is the renewability of the character. As such, saying that there is a definitive Batman or Joker is kind of like saying that there is one translation and one translation only. I don't think we're disagreeing here, I'm just tired of people (not you) saying stuff without backing it up. And, again, were they to have an opportunity to show off their version of the Joker, I doubt I'd be as impressed.
Case in point, there's a fan film on the 'Net called Grayson. Look, its a really nice looking film, but its all over the freaking place, featuring virtually every DC character from Robin to Green Lantern to Ginger Snap to Ambush Bug. That may be a fan's way of doing a movie, but to me it looks like the cinematic equivalent of being trapped at a party by a talkative philatelist.
Oh, and I have to agree about the marketing thing. Batman Begins was praised for keeping the market to a respectable level - I appreciate that in light of having to still pick commercials out of my throat for the first Star Wars prequel. -
that is.
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Really creepy.
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Like the talkbackers above stated, this is not real hype yet. Internet hype always hits well before the marketing campaign aimed at the general audience. IMO, too much hype is when you get hit with TV spots every 30 minutes, and when Burger King has their promo in full swing. Besides, can you really tell me the last time a movie REALLY lived up to your expectations. Fanboys always expect more than reality.
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And again, we're treated to a delightful exhibition of immature whiny losers who will never be happy unless the actual pages of the comic are projected on the screen.
Even if the film followed the comic perfectly, I'm sure theses same people would whine about the lack of speech bubbles appearring whenever a character talked or the fact the characters on screen aren't drawings 'like in the comic'...... -
STFU. I will come through your computer screen and pull your labia over your heads. If you're not excited about this movie you have no business reading comics or watching movies. These posters are incredible. The trailer owns. And Heath Ledger will having you idiots eating crow by summer.
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You trying to say Art Designers who use Photoshop aren't real artist? Because those are fighting words. It's the industry standard these days. Everyone uses it. I'm an art designer student, I use it. That does not make my work less artistic than some painting or drawing.
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that would be frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv. frank tv.
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Remember how glorious it was to see Batman everywhere back in the early '90s.... I do.
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i am listening to car theif right now and it sounds better than 99 percent of the "rock and roll" that is currently shopped on Mtv. christopher nolan won me over with memento and i think he is one of the top four directors in film today. i hope everyone that is slamming this film will not show up to watch it. stay home please. i could give a shit. i will watch it alone and be much happier.
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i agreed with your analysis of the poster, but i cringed when you used the word j____alo. i alost wish nolan would not have used the joker in this film because i am sure that i will have to deal with baggy pants wearing white thugs in the audience. if that happens to me, i will get a refund and wait a few weeks to see it in a less crowded environment.
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finding out about Falcone's dock operation(listening by the walls). interrogating flass to find how the operation was working. finding the area of the drug operation. finding crane was behind it and his operation at arkham(listening by the walls?). tying it all together to what it's all about. Hmmm what the fuck is that? that couldn't possibly be Detective work could it. Fucking dumb cunt.
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maybe you should see it again. First time i saw it I thought it was a real good movie. Second time I saw it I was blown away at how Brilliant it was. Alot of people seem to say the same thing, it's a movie that you could watch over and over again and seems to get better.
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are you fucking stupid. the internet is huge, it doesn't mean they all look at movie sites like aicn, chud, lationreview. what the fuck? I still get people asking me "Is there gonna be another batman?" I say yes. they ask "the new one with christian bale?" I say "yes". get off the computer and look in the real world dumb cunt. not everyone is a movie geek or has more than just a passing interest in movies.
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the first poster for begins was the symbol. then the subsequent postes were of Batman in romantic iconic poses surrounded by bats against that warm red/brown photo theme they had going on.
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Better than anything I could have imagined. The Joker is absolutely terrifying. Bravo Ledger and Nolan!!!
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That's all.
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http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=269632409&blogID=322634577
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WTF is that crap? Exorcist?
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well if you want to continue being an idiot then don't take out 2 hours of your life to have a second opinion. i just know you'll think differently. You'll say 'holy shit, the music, i never noticed that'. 'fuck me, look at that shot' etc etc.
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Just incase you missed it, here are most of the Dark Knight Websites:
www.ibelieveinharveydent.com
www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com
www.whysoserious.com
www.gothamtimes.com
www.thehahahatimes.com
www.atasteforthetheatrical.com
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I guess it's cool to act like you hate seeing ads for a movie you're gonna see these days.
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This is NOT The Joker, no matter how much you Goth fuckheads want it to be. This is a high school outcast on a murderous rampage. For all of you who think this movie will be the "be all to end all" of Batman movies, just wait until the third or fourth week of release.
Why So Serious, WB and Goth fanboys?
Because your abortion of a movie tanked after the second week. -
I hate to break it to you but its probably not going to flop.
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What do you mean, WTF?
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You can see the person who took the picture in the reflection of the door.
Was that intentional?
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