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Hey folks, Harry here with this 5 minutes of CLOVERFIELD. I'm dying of curiousity to see this film. If all plays out right, I should be seeing it pretty damn soon, pretty much what is shown here is essentially stuff we've seen in the two trailers - but with a context for how it goes together. Can't wait - we don't have long to wait now!
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though I wish to remain pure, and I won't watch this.
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Harry you're ALL OVER IT!!!
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"fag"
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HIT ME! YOU GRUESOME SON OF A BITCH!
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Forever apparently...
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I've had it with this fad of releasing "the first five minutes" of a film, og for that matter releasing a single scene. I can't put my finger on, why this rubs me the wrong way, but I just find it interminable!
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Very real looking and quite 9/11 which might still be a bit uncomfortable for a lot of people. <P>Has a very natural, very there feeling to it.<P>Hope they can maintain this for the duration of the movie and the monster is well done.
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Or is that where the creature was "caught" in the first place?
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That was seriously creepy, scary shit. If the director,producer, writers intent was to scare me, they did it with flying colors. Just one more month for this.
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Um, Thanks for the heads up, dumbass.
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"Rob. I saw it. It's a liger." "Rob. I saw it. It's a liposuction tube." "Rob. I saw it. It's a Line Rider."
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I kind of think this entire movie will work better if the monster is never shown (at least clearly or entirely, just parts and brief glimpses of it). Instead, what would be more impressive would be seeing how seamless the effects work of the destruction going on around the characters is.
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Dec. 14, 2007, 4:30 a.m. CST
I hope they will milk the same trailer over and over!
by DerLanghaarige
Because judging it by the footage that we just saw, the movie works best if you are as clueless as the characters in the movie. Okay, even if we already knew what was going on, it captured the WTF-ness that moments like this have pretty good. So call me excited!
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Run! Run for your financially secure lives!!! <p> Also, JJ, you got some balls ripping off 9/11.
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If they show too much new footage, it could prevent the movie from working.
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Oh - now I get it. This isn't Voltron after all. Nope - it's another remake of The Thing Yada Yada Yada. Oh cool! I wonder if Mickey Rourke is going to have a cameo?
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It's an inner city choir." "Rob. I saw it. It's Leland Stottlemeyer." "Rob. I saw it. It's the hot new Lars von Trier." Rob. I saw it. It's the bad acting fairy."
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Though I am impressed not-so-much with the yuppie acting early on, I cannot resist the excitement drummed up by a good ol' fashioned monster movie!
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being right there with a video cam as the Lady Liberty head crashes down. I'm rooting for the giant lion, stomping on yuppies. Though that brown girl is cute. She can live.
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"It's Symbiopsychotaxiplasm." Sorry, last one...
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"All right, do you you guys remember 9-11? No? Okay, well it was this really crazy day a few years ago. There was all this handheld on-the-scene footage that kept everyone who watched it glued to the screen! There were explosions, people running from clouds of smoke and dusty, it happened in New York. That's what I want to do! I want to recreate that same feeling, only, I want to cheapen it with a bunch of douchebag characters and some corny ass monster instead of Al Qaeda! We'll be millionaires!"
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That line in the trailer, spoken by 'Token Black', is the single moment that makes me skeptical of this movie working in the manner under which it is clearly intended. If we can expect unconvincing peril with such Bruckheimer-ready dialogue then I have no interest in this movie.
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first off that camera tilt is rediculous at the begining. no one holds a camcorder 45 degrees outward. it hurts your hand and is just stupid. second that "oh my god, this cant be happening" audio needs to be changed cuz its awful. third I dont like the building colapse run from smoke 9/11 thing. it's exploitive. bigest dissapointment of the year, I can see it now
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and it was AWESOME!
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Dec. 14, 2007, 4:56 a.m. CST
Download stops and starts like dead whore plugged into the wall
by darrenspool
It's alive because it's the Sphinx.
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I think I know what bothers you about this, as it bothers me a bit, too: it's a blatant advertising attempt that reminds us too clearly how much of a BUSINESS filmmaking has become, and puts it a little to comfortably in line with it's sick little cousin, the recording industry. It also kinda deflates the magic, basically - and that part of us film geeks that want to retain that respect for the said magic of film. We want the filmmakers to be proud enough - and confident enough - in their creation to view it as more than a product to tease us with. Instead, we're presented with a commodity...but now we're talking (concerning film, anyways) about the difference between popcorn and art. Or popart. Or artcorn, maybe.
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Yeah the statue of liberty's head is flying towards me... I'll just sidestep it...
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...and NOW you start complaining?
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shakycam 4tw
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Damn you, Michael Bay!
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The building falling looks like 9/11. Cry me a friggen river. The fact is that footage of the towers falling showed us what it's really like to be at the foot of a collapsing structure, so to film a monster movie where BUILDINGS FALL DOWN MAYBE THEY WANNA MAKE IT LOOK REALISTIC!!! Stupid narrow minded people saying "Exploits 9/11 lololol" please shut up now. What are we gonna do not have realistic hurricanes in films because it exploits Katrina. Try thinking in more than one dimension.
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My personal favorite 'building fall down' was the one that fell on Kenshiro in FIST OF THE NORTH STAR - and I mean, he just walks through that shit! That, I guess, wasn't realistic - though it could have been the Japanimation. Anyways, these characters are pussies compared to him! Oh, mainly because your body will blow up if he punches you a couple times.
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It's not the building falling down, you fucking dolt. It's JJ's attempt to literally recreate the sights and emotions people were feeling that day by making a docu-monster movie using the EXACT same elements. That's pretty low and
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Fuck this movie in it's blowhole.
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Absolutely spot-on. That's EXACTLY what's been bothering me.
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has to stop. I'm not watching it.
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It's breakdance fighting."
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...And by the way, Rob, we're both humans who are currently breathing air, we each have 2 lungs, a heart, a pancreas, spleen, and various other organs. We are speaking English and have not started losing our hair yet. <p> Rob, talk to me. Rob, use that mouth and tongue that is common among the two of us. <p> Rob! Can you hear me? Come on, dude. Use those two ears that are just like the ones that I have, and that every other human has... <p> Rob...
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gunstar9, that was funny, and the really hilarious thing is he has to be like that through the entire thing in order for it to work! But I mean hell, it's a big monster movie done in a new way, which is cool with me. I'm not expecting this to change the world, but it will be a cool little movie. All the friggin' pretty people are pissing me off though, everyone so far looks like supermodels. Kind of ruins the "realistic" vibe they're going for.
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If it was just 'shakycam' style, then fair enough, but to go the Blair Witch route (and that film stretched credibility to breaking point on this issue, but this is ridiculous), and say that there's an actual guy there, who when the buildings around him are falling down, or he's running down stairs, etc etc, will keep a camera held in front of him at a level angle and keep it recording... will stand there whilst a statue of liberty head flies towards him and just pan as it flies past... It just completely took me out of the supposed 'realism' of the movie, and I think it's a major, major flaw.
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Is a model fashion party? Where are the fat people, the puerto ricans. It's like an LA party in NY.
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God I love these TalkBacks...some of the funniest shit on the planet. Quite disturbing how people critique the realism of an individual's reactions to monster's walking the earth. Like who gives a shit if some dude runs around with his pants on his head screaming "It's mardi gras!"? Or "It's the second coming"? Whatever. It's looking like something old being made to look slightly new and that's a blessing in these arid times, folks.
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... puerto ricans? Was a racial insult really necessary right there... ? The fat people insult, I have no problem with. And by the way I'm a white guy. But saying that there are no hot puerto rican people is just... wow... you're a narrow-minded bigot.
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riiiiiiiiiiiight.
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WTF!?!?! That and the people are way to calm. The camera dude is like uber calm. What the fucker smoking??? And yeah the big cloud of debris- 9/11 right there. You'd think people would stop standing still and staring dumbly out at the havoc. Whatever!
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when you fall down, you say"i fell down!"<P>deal with this shit, people.
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cos at the end of that he clearly says "Lion" right? I mean, I know that makes no logical sense and would look completely shite in a film. and despite the fact he CLEARLY says "alive" Im gonna fight tooth and nail with everyone INSISTING he says "lion". Anyway, this is cool and all (nice to see it is all handheld, but you know, I jst got blown away by that amazing Dark Knight trailer and need time to recover.
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I'll still see it, though.
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Makes me think whatever "it" is was previously inanimate. Non?
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You are overly negative, please cry more.
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Here's the monster: http://tinyurl.com/2as5s4 BRING BACK CHICKEN GEORGE.
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Abrams seems pretty cool. I'll see it.
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My favorite part of this is the intro video - J.J. Abrams seems about as excited as a dead-eyed sex slave servicing her 54th customer of the day. If you're trying to get people to "add" your "widget," or whatever the hell he's on about, you might want to pretend like you're excited about the thing you're promoting!
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Is a well known fan made picture and not from any actual pre-production work.
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ive seen it. That aint the monster. Its mre human, and has red eyes.
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ive seen it. That aint the monster. Its mre human, and has red eyes.
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Maybe they all die -- that would be cool.<br> <br> Of course, I still won't go see it because of the almost as annoying shakycam.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br>
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If they found the video, then that means they defeated it. If it wasn't for the damn shaky cam action it might have been fun. Also notice how these things never happen in Alabama. Those rednecks would have eaten it.
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if ever there was one, this is it. This viral marketing crap is getting old fast.
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...way to make a movie that with characters that no one in the audience is gonna give a flying fuck about - you rock! Guess your token black guy who dies in the first fifty-two seconds gets to say something like 'We'se gots to unyte to defends da erf!'
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If I saw on the news that my town was hit by an earthquake, the roof of the building I'm in doesn't seem like a logical place to go. Aftershocks, anyone? Don't get me wrong though...I love monstermovies and am sure to go and see this flick.
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JJ doing a homage to the "realistic" camera work on 9-11. This is entertainment? Let's all pay to see simulations of the 9-11 attack!
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This will suck asshole just as the Godzilla movie back in the 90's. I'm not kiddin'
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The dialogue sounds similar: Dude... Dude. Dude! Dude? Dude!? Dude.......
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I'm Not Kiddin'!!
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Goddammit JJ, did you have to put that sound bite at the very end of the clip??
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Can't wait..but I'll have to. 2008 is looking pretty fucking sweet.
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Dear haters on the talkback, Go ahead and get a video camera, try to replicate what you just saw in that 5-minute clip, and try to do better. Good fucking luck, amateurs.
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and help me out with the unions and shit. After that I can make a kickass fucking flick.
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Try to replicate what I saw.. Hmm first I need someone with parkinson's disease to shoot the video, then I need I don't know say Britney Spears the write the script. Should be pretty easy to replicate.
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Dec. 14, 2007, 8:46 a.m. CST
he would say its alive. you wouldnt just assume its a giant...
by BMacSmith
monster. makes sense i think. And hipster/metrosexuals would probably be pretty believable in that area, so it all looks pretty believable. and spare me the 9/11 comparisons. If a building falls down in New York, everyone is going to be reminded of 9/11. get over it. these movies were around long before 9/11. Only thing that sucks is the shaky cam. that shit is going to get annoying real quick.
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I haven't had my V8 yet today, I'm only halfway through, and there's a crick in my neck.
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Abrams is the man.
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Holy Snow-King Snowblowers that looks like good eatin.
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"If they found the video, then that means they defeated it." Okay, it's a monster movie, so chances are that yes, it ends with the monster dying. But note that the title card in the beginning says "incident site U.S. 447." That to me suggests the monster eventually leaves NYC and hits many other locations. At any rate, there's no reason to think that just because someone recovers the tape, the monster is dead. Or even that the people making the tape are dead--they could have turned it in. "'It's alive' makes me think whatever 'it' is was previously inanimate." If your city is apparently under attack--and on top of that, your city was under attack just a few years ago--I think your first assumption would be that it's getting hit by conventional weapons, or more lunatics flying planes. I think it would come as a pretty fucking big surprise if you looked into the heart of the destruction and saw a giant living creature in there instead of a bomb or a plane or something. I don't see any reason to believe this is something that "came to life." The cameraman is just astonished that, on top of the weirdness of his city being under siege--which is a situation he's at least a little prepared for--it's under siege by a GIANT FUCKING MONSTER, something that, need I remind you, HAS NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED BEFORE.
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just ignores him when he asks if she's okay. stuck up bitch.
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because it reminds me of Horishima.
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I mean there's nothing here!!!! I've seen better tv commercials.
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I meant. Obviously. It's early.
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Yeah, lets hate every movie that's about to come out based on, lets say, the poster, or a 30-second clip or word of mouth. I'm not saying Cloverfield will be great,, but I'm willing to give it a chance because it's trying something different. There is never a shred of optimism among you guys. You'd call your toast "lame" before it pops up, or you'd say the sun is "gay" for rising at 6:30 instead of 6:32. Must be fun to work with you guys, complaining all day in advance about everything that's about to happen. There. Now I've done my complaining, which I guess is what this forum is about anyways.
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Classic man. Classic.
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It's called "willing suspension of disbelief". A lot of movies require the viewer to do this.
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cause they wish they thought of this concept. It's alive and it's gonna be HUGE.
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It's not JUST the building falling down that brings up 9/11. It's the elements of 9/11 condensed into what is basically a reenactment of what everyone watched on TV that day. Why can't you and other people like you see that? <p> I'd be willing to bet that JJ literally sat down and said "let's re-do 9/11 but with monsters". Not the attacks, but the chaos and the "being there" feeling associated with hand-helds. That's what moviemaking has been reduced to? <p> Listen, I'm sure the movie will be exciting...but there is NO WAY you can watch that clip and not see where he got his "inspiration".
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...who runs to the roof of a building in an earthquake?
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If you've used the latest in consumer cameras, they aren't necesarily designed to be held the way a traditional point n' shoot is. They can be and are often palmed from the top or cradled from the bottom so that the shooter (who doesn't need to look through the eyepiece anymore because of LCD screens) can get smooth motion.
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like a 40-year-old Zach Braff?
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Of course it's 9/11 "inspired". The same way all the Godzilla movies were "inspired" by the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. What the hell are you so bent out of shape about?
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cinemas and on tv. I have seen the trailer and it looks dark as hell. Everyone on this island will be killed says ben. locke says whatever they came for it wasnt us. you see the skulls of dead cobras. you someone with a deep arm wound. jack pointing his gun and firing at someone. ben being captured. Jack diving for something. and what looks like snake island. so could the cobra be real after all. hmmm. Lost returns feb 2008.
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and its huge......Thats All i see.
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...THE SAME CLIP FROM LAST MONTH.
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When the guy says "It's alive", he infers a prior knowledge / supposition of Godzilla being killed in the original movie.
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I just wanted Bmac and others to know that when people bring up 9/11 it's not the building falling down that they're talking about. It's everything else. It's the cheap shot below the belt of trying to conjure up some of the same visuals and emotions that took place that day. <p> What pisses me off is that ANYONE could have emulated 9/11 and tacked on some kind of goofy movie plot about monsters. It's like, the story was already there and all JJ said "let's add monsters". (and a bunch of bitch-ass hipsters). <p> That's not a cinematic mind at work, that's a business mind...which is all well and good. I am glad for JJ on coming up with a great, marketable idea. I just prefer my movies with a little bit of heart and soul and I can't stand the "product-ization" of Hollywood.
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Mighty Peking Man owns A.P.E's ass. You know this to be true, so don't even try debating it.
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...but if you were in New York for 9/11 this feels really exploitative, especially since it's set in New York. I remember being in the streets and hearing some of the same comments made in that clip. I was excited about this film but that clip brought back some painful memories.
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So I switched to IE. Now if this is in IMAX... :)
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Looks pretty intense, but why does it always have to be New York (or LA)? Why not have some big fucking monster come destroy Seattle. How about Detroit or Milwaukee?
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I found the movie Twister to be extremely offensive and exploitive.
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just realized the infamous "I saw it, it's _____!" line is delivered by none other than Mr. TJ Miller, my fiancés friend from highschool.<br><br>TJ also portrays Marmaduke on "Carpoolers", as if anyone else in the country but us and TJ's parents watched that.
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I've been hoping to make my new disaster/porn genre-blending film, WHORENADO, back-to-back with its sequel. But I couldn't come up with a bigger disaster for part 2. Thanks to you, I'll soon be shooting WHORENADO 2: WHOREISHIMA. Thanks, man!
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If we can't make movies where a monster goes yaaaar, and the buildings are like Blllaaaaaaaaag, and this truck flips over and is all like KKkkraaaaaaaar
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BAD HARRY, BAD.
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By that I mean the acting is shyte. not to mention the dialogue. "Hey I saw it, i saw it, it's alive!!" <p> The city's being destroyed and thank God for this prick. maybe they just shot it with no script and told them to adlib the whole thing. <p> I'll still see it though!
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Well, if they thought that TIDO or TAGRUATO killed it in the first place to cover up their mistakes...and it came back...I guess you'd confirm that what you thought was dead was a live.<p>There are some clear shots taken right out of the day of September 11th, where the cloud of debris begins rolling as a wall of smoke, and people begin fleeing even as it overtakes them.<p>I've held a camera a lot, and I wonder what posesses a guy to begin recording the television instead of turning off the camera and watching it. And the crowd acts realistically to the danger/explosions, but suddenly two 'actors' come in ad shatter the realism by 'acting like they're in a disaster'. It's like when people sleep in movies and their eyes are flickering around so you can tell they're 'acting' like they're sleeping...or that lady in Fantastic Four who looks like she's been slapped with a fish to 'act' like she's 'blind'. Fuck, why can't they find a hot blind girl?<p>I'd say that yeah 9-11 showed people what it looked like when a building falls, and it aint just crumbling plaster and breaking glass, it's a big cloud of pollutants, and people running into a bodega. Where's the guy who owns that place to bitch about people knocking his shit around? I like the fact that the idiots all bust out their cell cams and take pictures of the beheaded statue instead of taking care of themselves.
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But wasn't Michael Bay's movie about Pearl Harbor actually called "Pearl Harbor"? <p> And by the way retard, no one's bitching about 9/11. Is that how your mind works? You just see a "9" and an "11" somewhere and you automatically assume it's some "right-winger" giving his opinion on the matter? <p> Faggots? Really? Wow. Good one.
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It's just ripping it off. That's all.
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I haven't even seen the monster and I'm already sick of this.
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I love J.J. Abrams, and I know this is getting a lot of hype, but - from the trailers and this preview, I'm getting a bad "Godzilla" with Matthew Broderick feeling.
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And that goes to politicians, helmet haired soccer moms who stop flights because they see a brown skinned person on their plane and douchebags who can't ever again see a building getting blown up or destroyed. GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Christ.
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I do agree with the consensus here that there is a shocking lack of ugly Puerto Ricans. I think this is a common complaint in this genre. <p>Also, I don't think insane people should be able to write their opinions in a talkback.
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AND HE'S BLOWIN' FIRE FROM HIS LOOSE ASS!! RUN ROBERT RUN!!
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It's amazing how worked up people get over marketing strategy...I think it's interesting how some people single out "viral marketing" as being (somehow) worse then "regular" marketing...personally I find all marketing strategies to be somewhat obvious & vulgar...as far as the (claimed) 9/11 reference goes- we don't really know what was in J.J's mind when that scene was created...I WILL tell you what bothers me thou, 9/11 continues rob us of our "way of life" (and we let it)...ideally we should be able to enjoy a monster movie for what it is without getting "9/11 crazy"...I wonder if people in 1950's Japan objected to "Godzilla" trashing a city because of the images of a destroyed city with displaced people running from fire and destruction (like WW2 fire bombings)? It's impossible to divorce ourselfs from a shared experience (and the shock of 9/11 may never heal for some people) but when did it become insensitive for us to "continue on with life"...during WW2 and "The Blitz" the free world admired the British for "carrying on with business as usual"...everything in perspective.
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The movie looks like fun...
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Combine the two and hillarity ensues. Example: FagSuck, SuckFag, FaggotSucker, SuckingFaggot, Bob Saggett...etc
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Realism? If people don't scream "It's fucking Godzilla!" 80 million times in this, it's not that realistic, really. I liked the footage, though.
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Since 9/11, no one can ever...eeevvver..at all again make a movie in which NYC gets destroyed or attacked. Wow. I saw it...and it's a movie. A FIC-TION-AL...movie. It's fake. Not real. Do you think people in Japan were bitching about Gojira when it got made just 10 years or so after Hiroshima? I doubt it. They saw the movie, and took it for what it was. Then again if they had the internet back then they might have now that I think about it.
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to give JJ a noogie?
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Or is this another remake.
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I don't see any problem with showing buildings in New York Falling to the ground in a movie as long as the words Faggot and Suck are used throughout when refering to things. ahah. I am going to run this into the ground right here on these Turducken movie talkbacks.
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Some of you people are really outrageous. Why do you assume I'm far-right because I'm sick of 9/11 exploitation? I'm pretty firmly liberal. Yes, there can be explosions in films, there can be buildings collapsing, there can be disaster films...I'm just saying by combining certain elements you are intentionally recalling 9/11 and, therefore, exploiting it for entertainment.
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ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT FROM THE LATE 1980'S?
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In that cartoon, what that supposed to be Godzilla's son? WTF? Explain please.
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Or "alive." which does he say? <p> If it's "alive" that would suggest whatever it was was previously knwon to be inert, which is as much a mystery as a "lion" (which I really don't think it is)
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What "certain elements" are you talking about? Buildings getting destroyed? People running? Holy shit! 9/11! 9/11! Throw the filmmaker in Gitmo! Call Jack Bauer! <p>You fucking douchebag.</p>
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Damn, TomBodet, you just made and ruined my day all in one feeble moment. I suddenly want that "monster movie" parody SO bad now that I have visualized it. But alas, I must live knowing it'll never happen. <p> "I'd trash him from top to bottomus!" <p>"I'd show HIM who's King of da Forest!"
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I'm pretty sure of it.
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Maybe that's your perspective. And no doubt there will be others who share it, but people were doing this kind of thing way before 9/11 and they'll do it long afterward too. <p> Because of what 9/11 was, there will always be some remnant of the public consciousness (at least in the US, particularly NYC) that will harken back to 9/11 whenever you see some kind of massive attack like this, but nobody spends $100MM, or even $50MM, to make a movie specifically to exploit the pain people felt on that one terrible day. Well, they DO if they make films like "World Trade Center" or "United 93", but those films have a completely different intent. In fact, I'd say THOSE do intend to exploit the emotions of 9/11. <p. But a flick like CLoverfield? no. sorry.
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It doesn't seem to fit with his preceeding sentence of "I saw it. I saw it. I saw it." <p> If you were told about something you hadn't actually seen yourself. Something really bad. Then you saw it as it was coming for you and your friends (who hadn't seen it yet) and realized it was something different than what you were told, would you say "it's a lie?" Or would you say, "I saw it, it's a XXXXX" - meaning what it actually is. <p> Eh, why am I even wasting my time on this? It's JJ Abrams dialogue. It'll never be "realistic".
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Form Blazing Sword, bitches! <p> ok, I'm going back to work.
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"DEMON, COME OUT! OUT I SAY!" "EXCUSE ME, MIZZ CLINTON. YOU HAVE EXCEEDED YOUR FIFTY FIVE SECONDS TO RESPOND TO THE PRESIDENTAL DEBATE MODERATOR'S QUESTION. I BELIEVE IT IS MY TURN. IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION MODERATOR BILL O' REILLY, I BELIEVE IRISH AMERICAN VOTERS ARE A VERY KEY COMPONENT FOR A REPUBLICAN ELECTORAL VICTORY HERE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK OVER MY DEMOCRATIC OPPONET MIZZ HILARY CLINTON. DESPITE MIZZ CLINTONS PLEAS FOR IRISH DEMONCRATS TO COME OUT AND VOTE ON ELECTION DAY, I FEEL MOST IRISH AMERICAN VOTERS WILL STAY HOME AND DOUBLE OVER THEIR FEMALE GINNYS THEY TOOK FOR WIVES WITH A SILVER QUICK FIST TO THE ABDOMINE."
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Shakycam aside, which could get old pretty quickly, it looked fine to me. I liked the giant scratch marks in the Statue of Liberty's head, I liked the way people were running like hell one moment and then standing around like idiots the next. I even liked the way that the dialogue was a mix of cogent and totally inane comments. To enjoy the movie, you have to accept that one person will spend the whole time with a video camera welded to their head. You also have to accept that the footage is going to look a bit better than your average camcorder and that significant events - ie. ones that move the plot forward - are going to be captured on the camera. It's a conceit. If you can live with it, go see the movie. If you can't, move on to another talkback.
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is for two reasons, one they are keeping it under wraps. or two, they are going for a blair witch vibe. Something attacked the city and it is up to the audience to try and figure what did. This is a much bigger film. It is not just NYC that gets attacked but america. the movie starts in NYC but moves to the rest of the country.
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Wouldn't it be cool if this took place in and around the main action of Ghostbusters like Rozencrantz and Guildenstern are dead? Yeah, probably not.
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Shakey cam and a cartoon monster. Terrifying. No, seriously...
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Dec. 14, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST
Rob. I saw it. It's voltron fucking cthulhu because deaf fanboys
by Chutch
First i was excited, then annoyed, and now i'm excited a bit again because the idea of all those new york hipsters getting killed is so up my alley.
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"....And I crapped my pants!!"
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"....IT WAS KIRSTIE ALLY!!! SHE'S HUGE!!!"
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Dec. 14, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST
People act like 9/11 was the first time a building fell down.
by Novaman5000
God, did the world even exist before then? I can't remember.<p> This movie looks like a blast (stupid pun intended) and I will be there opening weekend, or sooner if I can get a screening invite.
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Damn building fell when she popped her gum.
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Down here most of us either own a gun(s) or have access to them.When some shit goes down we don't wait for the goverment to tell us what to do ,we can take care of ourselves. If that sounds "redneck" and stupid, oh well, I just know where I want to be when the zombies attack..... see even "red state morons" have a sense of humor.
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Dec. 14, 2007, 1:43 p.m. CST
Yeah junior, unless the zombies remember how to use guns
by Novaman5000
Then you're fucked.<p> Also, when everyone has guns, you get shit going down like that idiot who shot a couple of people dead simply because they were stealing his neighbors TV. <p> And lastly... You see the size of that fucking monster? It knocked over a building. You think a couple of hayseeds with shotguns are gonna do anything to it?
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You know, a lot of people like to cast their own personal opinions on to someone else’s motivation or inspiration for doing something. First off, NYC has been the punching bag of the cinematic world since movies were made. Second, for any supposed "film experts", the shaky cam action sequences were more popularized by the camera style of Saving Private Ryan. It has been used in many films since. So before you have at the movie (you haven't seen) with your criticism drilldo, maybe you should wait till it comes out to take such deep offense to JJ's ripping off 9/11. You guys sound like scared little kids with your petty complaints. Oh yeah, I was in the subway with my girlfriend during the attacks and we got to walk along the tracks (no, there were no Mole-People) to the next stop. Effing crazy!! (Of course, had there been Mole-People I would have been obligated to join their nether-tribe, slowly learning their language and earning their trust. As I work my way up the ranks of their crude governance, I would lead up to challenge the head mole warrior ((also the chief)), after easily defeating him using my superior sense of vision (sense of smell is not great for anticipating an enemy in the nether-dome), I would then take the beautiful mole bride (a four topside!) for my prize. I would do my best to unify the warring tribes and scattered groups of moles. After the great mole conference of 2008, we would begin our training. I would bring in the French guy from "The Patriot" to help me. After we were ready, we'd take to the streets to thunderfuck New York while JJ Abrams films the whole thing.
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Before anoyone gets on my case. this is not another conspiratorial post. Sometime after 9/11 i saw a documentary that i though was fascinating. I think it was discovery and it was about the up keep of the twin towers. Anyhow this doc was revealing in that that the people that owned the buildings were finding the up keep on the buildings very hard to maintain. The owners had sold the buildings back to New york city council, New york city council had a look and discovered that they were so badly in need of repair, that the twin towers were structurally un sound and the New York City council took the view that buildings had to be deomlished. They were hugely popular tourist attraction. but what nobody knew was that metal frame part of building had rusted and cracked or least the companies who leased the buildings didnt know that and if they had they would have moved out and no one would have died. The twin towers were a catastrophe waiting to happen. What happened on that day was an appalling act of mass murder. however, lives would have been saved if, the new york city council had acted properly, pubslished the report about unsafe the buildings were, emptied them and demolished them. But they didnt. Ie The twin towers were a death trap.
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During the preview at the Hospital (???) like place, what is going on with that woman behind the curtain? It's like she explodes or something and you can hear it too. I was watching the preview like "yeah yeah I'll see it JJ" and then I saw that moment and I was like "uhm, EW, WTF happened to her?". Anyone have an idea?
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(Spoiler) The big Godzooki thing has human-sized parasites that jump off of it and mug people. No, really.
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Dec. 14, 2007, 2:16 p.m. CST
it sounds to me like people cant seperate fact from fiction
by emeraldboy
Apart from bradon lee. if you kill someone in film, he or she gets back up again. When a building gets knocked down in movie, its not a real building. Here is what they do. they build a prop of said building against a green screen, in another part of the studio they shoot the blowing up of a mini version of said building, digitise it and edited in to the film so that it looks like said monster briging down the building. becuase it is New york, people are trying to get all political. Its just a movie, a fictional movie. its called special effects.
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Has anyone heard or seen the films called Armageddon or Godzilla? They came out in 1998 & both featured mass death & destruction in New York... My point is; disaster movies do not have to be analagous to 9/11.
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no shit captain obvious, any other brillant observations camera man?
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It is beyond idiotic. When i first say this trailer my reaction was WTF. Not once did I think about 9/11. The little glimses of the monster and the roaring is very telling. If you are think about 9/11 when you see this clip then something is wrong with "YOU".
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Talkbacks are full of fucking idiots. Seriously, I've stopped reading at this point, I just get so infuriated with the magnitude of douchebaggery on display. About 75% of you guys really need to get laid for once, it will definitely quell the bitterness, if only for a little while. <p>Oh, and as for the movie, it looks like it could be fun. I haven't decided to love or hate it based on the few minutes of footage, unlike so many others.
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A) JJ Abrams, B) My Dick, C) A Crab, D) Gay, E) All of the above.
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...have my own home and have great sex on a regular basis I'm going to see this movie. IT. WILL. ROCK. I'm so there. MT
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Dec. 14, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST
Puffy should remix another Led Zepplin song for this
by The Winged Doucheman
Come with me.
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blasphemy.
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The Statue of Liberty head bouncing down the street is too silly of an image to really be offensive. But when the Empire State Building collapses vertically and people on the streets are trying to run away from the dust cloud the debris causes, what else are you supposed to think? It is exactly what happened on 9/11. People ran into stores to get out of the way. I know filmmakers think they are "raising the stakes" by using this imagery, but they really aren't.
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9/11 Comparisons? Sure, but disasters look like disasters no matter what the cause. Visually unavoidable. "incident site U.S. 447?" Easy. This is obviously an extraterrestrial crash site. Project Blue Book anyone? Crash site 447. Formerly Central Park tells me the place was turned into a pretty big crater when the meteor / craft hit. The monster is the driver and when it gets out, it's got some pretty pent-up road rage to spew at NYC. The rest is all running and screaming and vomit-cam. The End. Cue credits. Save your $12 bucks and send it to charity. Have a nice day.
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This whole Cloverfield thing has run out of steam already.......a trailer with no title........a shoddy viral campaign..........and a trailer that has to mimic events from 9/11...to stir up controversy. JJ just finish Lost then fuck off forever.
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i can sense it now, just like you never see some things in lost, jj abrahams admits making stuff up on the spot, whats that that comes alive then you ask, its the liberty statue and the ivisible force throws the head off, and it moves to different things, its a mysterious invisble force that you never get to see, *awaits my comment to be removed due to accurate guess work *
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Have I missed the latest insult word? Someone explain please.
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http://tinyurl.com/qmoh3
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Don't worry, the writer on this one is genius and won't let us down. Check out every episode of Lost that he wrote - flawless.
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Although I suspect that, like Blair Witch, it won't hold up to repeat viewings. And to the guy who thought the Liberty head was too small - I disagree. The first time I saw the statue for real, I was astonished at how small it was compared to the skyscrapers that look out at it from Battery Park. Sure, it's giant as far as statues go, but it's not as big as you think. Heck, from the observation level of the WTC, Liberty (although admittedly some distance away) looked positively minute.
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Whole stuffed camel, bitches.
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I've seen some weirdos around Cuz's place but none of 'em huge enough to rip the head off the Statue O' Liberty. Maybe they all fused into one giant, compound weirdo....
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http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/g/gamera.htm
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I'm totally in.
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I myself wondered how the cameraman was able to maintain a clear shot throughout the teaser. Hopefully, he or she is one of those techies who always has the latest electronics. In this case, the camera seems to be inside of his glasses.
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...if that was actually the beginning of the movie. Cutting out the whole party scene would get things moving faster, but would eliminate character introductions.
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That's what these talkbacks are made for, to bitch and whine about movies, sometimes praise them, but most of all, to make rude and immature comments you douche sucking fuck fag.
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Now that everyone knows what a "real" building looks like when it "comes down" (we all saw 9/11 on TV) filmmakers are obligated to make a "building that is destroyed" look real...
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You know what Godzilla is? IT'S JAPAN DEALING WITH THE UNITED STATES DROPPING NUCLEAR WEAPONS ON HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI. Hollywood is not the only place that has done this sort of thing, and the fact that they can make a monster movie out of the fear that circulated around 9/11 is a sign that people have healed and are ready to move on. You sir, have obviously not, but don't speak for the rest of us.
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from here at work. anybody got another link to it that I can try?
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Dec. 14, 2007, 11:10 p.m. CST
remeber when buildings would fall over intact in movies
by ironic_name
also, stuffed camel > turderken
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maybe youtube, or myspace.
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Dec. 14, 2007, 11:12 p.m. CST
remeMber when buildings would fall over intact in movies?
by ironic_name
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"In a black, plastic bag"
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That was really funny.
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but I cant get youtube either..just have to wait til I get home...
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ShockTillYouDrop.com: When he addressed the geek nation at Comic-Con, J.J. Abrams voiced his desire to give America their own giant monster to fear. Did you feel the same way? That the genre still hadn't been approach properly on our own turf? Matt Reeves: Absolutely, but also the thing that was exciting to me was the approach to the film. Take a monster movie but do it in a way that was very naturalistic and authentic. The idea of that juxtaposition - a realistic monster movie was the thing that excited me most. That was the best way to create a monster that we could proud of. Shock: There's concern out there that you're using this style to hide the monster and that we won't ever get a good look at it - similar to "The Blair Witch Project." Reeves: It's funny, when we first started I hadn't seen "Blair Witch" at the time and thought I should go look at it because obviously there will be comparisons with the Handicam approach. I thought the concept was effective but I noticed immediately that they hadn't followed their idea through as clearly as what we were going to do. I think in that movie, it's not only the Handicam but there's 16mm black-and-white footage inter-cut, too. We wanted this to be as if someone found a Handicam, took out the tape and put it in the player to watch it. What you're watching is a home movie that then turns into something else. But the other thing I noticed was that the "Blair Witch" guys obviously didn't have the resources to make a big movie and this was a great way to tell their story. They used that to their advantage to create great suspense. We're creating great suspense while you see the great features of this monster. The other thing I think is very exciting is this monster is huge and you see everything. You see it in a way that is if you're shooting it with a Handicam. If you're hiding under a car, you see it that way, and there are other moments - I can guarantee you - you are seeing this monster in a huge way. Shock: That must have been an interesting creative challenge to shoot something that big through unconventional - by cinematic standards - means. Reeves: Yes! People who see the trailer probably think they won't see anything. They're going to see a lot and that will hopefully be a big surprise to them. A satisfying surprise. We've used the vibe of that Handicam thing to create a mood, feeling and an experience. Normally where you might shoot one of these set pieces in a way with huge wide shots and angles - this particular style creates an authenticity. The clip we put up [in the widget] shows you the experience you're going to have. There are going to be jump cuts as there would be in home movies. The only cuts you see in this movie are when the camera is turned off and back on. There's a feel as if it was all edited in-camera. Shock: Regarding the widget clip, when the Statue of Liberty head falls to the street, I loved how everyone broke out their camera phones to document the moment. That was a nice touch. Reeves: We thought that was very accurate for the time. To me, I felt that if you do it in this style - if this event had happened in New York and you had been there with a cell phone or camera you could've told the story yourself. The fun thing I had in mind was there's this hidden idea that there's this Rashomon experience that exists - everybody who experienced this night had their cameras, they made their movie of this event. In our case, "Cloverfield" is one of them. Shock: Is that to say there are more stories to be told then, post-"Cloverfield"? More to learn about the event that unfolds throughout the night? Reeves: No, I don't think so. I don't know what we'll do next, there are a lot of fun things we're talking about. That was just something I wanted to put in the movie, to remind people that this is an Everyman experience. Media is so much an aspect of our lives today that even evoking that idea was exciting to us. That there could be different stories out there. Shock: The vérité style seems to be very "in" these days. Romero applied it to the zombie genre with "Diary of the Dead" recently. Do you feel the approach is reinvigorating a sub-genre like the giant monster film? Reeves: I do because in this case - what we're doing is a very current idea. I think the genre movie like a giant monster movie - the fun of them is metaphor and the idea of how they speak about the anxieties of our time. "Godzilla" was very much about the A-bomb. "Cloverfield" very much speaks to the fear and anxieties of our time, how we live our lives. Constantly documenting things and putting them up on YouTube, sending people videos through e-mail - we felt it was very applicable to the way people feel now. Shock: Can you explain how you went about shooting in NYC? Was it guerilla-style or was it very much like shooting any other big budget production? Reeves: There was a guerilla approach in certain areas that we wanted to shoot in. Then we were shooting scenes where it wasn't guerilla at all. It was big movie stuff, but the challenge was to treat it with a guerilla mentality. We had to keep it authentic, leave room for improvisation. That kind of guerilla style was very much the spirit of the movie even though we may not have been doing it guerilla style. Shock: How many digital FX shots are on order for this film? Reeves: I can't put a number to it because we have so many continuous takes. There's a lot of continuous action. So what might be 20 or 30 shots in another film is going to be one big one in our film. It's hard to quantify. The FX people are working overtime right now to finish this. It's just enormous. And a huge undertaking. Having never done a visual FX film before, I'm incredibly thrilled. When they gave me the outline of the film, I was like, 'This is huge, how are we going to do this?' We're going to see a grand-scale epic movie but from a certain point of view. At times you're seeing enormous stuff, you don't exactly get it the way you would expect because we want it to be authentic. If there's a monster moment - you might not have this grand shot of him, you might get it after the fact because you want to have realistic action. But you will absolutely see everything - and you will see the monster in very intimate detail. You will get a very close look. People who have seen the trailer might think we are using this style to avoid seeing the monster, but that is definitely not what we're doing. We're using it to build dread and anticipation. Shock: Beyond the FX, this film has a human element to it as well, right? Reeves: When J.J. and Bryan [Burk, producer] came to me I said, 'This is all grand scale stuff. Huge scope. Everything I've done until this point is very character-based!' They wanted me to bring those character sensibilities to this film. So they introduced me to Drew and we started to talk about how we could go further with the characters. And while we did the casting process, we were looking for people who could improvise as well. We were trying to find people that could provide an intimate relationship with these characters and they were ones we were discovering through Handicam footage so it wasn't your traditional movie exposition where you meet people. That was another aspect of the movie that was very different. Shock: How funky is it to see the public Internet reaction surrounding this film? Reeves: The fun thing about doing the teaser trailer was that it was a throwback to a time when we would see a trailer for a film like "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." You were sitting there seeing a trailer for a movie that was completely mysterious. There's so much media saturation now we felt we'd shoot a quick teaser and throw something out there. Throw it out to the people so they can have a sense of discovery again. Then Paramount said, 'What if we don't even put the title out there so people can speculate?' We wondered if the MPAA would go with it, they didn't even know how to respond at first. They were like, 'That's never happened before.' But they let us do it. We knew people would be intrigued, but we had no idea the level to which they would begin to engage. We spent a large part of our prep period making the teaser trailer and using it as a basis as a prep for the movie. Shooting the teaser trailer was our way to understand how we were going to pull this off. Shock: The theories that permeated message boards were all over the map. Did you guys find time to sift through them all? Reeves: Around the time the trailer came out, we were a week into shooting the movie. And as we were shooting the movie we were starting to see this reaction building and that was exciting for us. We'd be on set creating this thing, finding out the language of it. I'd come home and these people have seen the trailer and are creating their own movie in a way based on their speculations. That was awesome. At the last minute, when we were shooting the trailer, we wanted people to know - 'cause we hadn't created the monster yet - that it was a giant monster movie, we wanted a tease of that. I jumped to the microphone and said the line, "I saw it! It's alive! It's huge!" And one of the most amusing things is I had come home and someone on the web had taken that section and started to do an analysis on it and thought I said, "It was a lion." The way I speak was too fast sometimes and they couldn't make it out.
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Dec. 15, 2007, 12:47 a.m. CST
"Rob! I saw it! It's a lymon! We're being attacked by Sprite!
by MrMysteryGuest
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The movie about a giant monster that attacks New York is not realistic because of the way the people at the party look. Most of you geeks here are finally at the point where you believe all this bullshit fantasy, and when you watch something that gives away hints that it is, in fact, a movie and not reality you are startled. Now, don't hate me here but the tooth fairy? That was mom and dad leaving you that money under your pillow. Santa Clause? Yep. Mom and dad. Chewbacca? Some tall dude in a dog suit.
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Dec. 15, 2007, 12:51 a.m. CST
"Rob! I saw it! It's a starship! With a saucer! And two nace
by MrMysteryGuest
"And it says: Enterprise!"
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I get motion sickness plus abrams sickness so there is no way in hell I am seeing this.
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A trailer inviting you to grab this! How odd!
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Galactus.
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am i the only one wondering if 'marlena' as in 'marlena are you OK?' is the same gal you see 'exploding' in the earlier trailer? in this new trailer, she could've been drunk/stunned, but maybe she's staggering out of that lobby because she was somehow infected before the attack?
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Dec. 15, 2007, 1:27 a.m. CST
At least it will be better than the 1998 "Godzilla"
by Space Disc Jockey
I kind of like the idea of a hand-held American "kaiju" film. However, just like any Godzilla movie, the acting/dialogue of the human characters is "lame". Still interested to see the film, of course.
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This is earthquake safety week. So what do we do when there's been an earthquake, especially in a NY building? Right, right.....we go to the roof.
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It's a lie I tells ya!
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But I'm not quite sure about a shaky-cam ego-perspective 2-hour movie. I'm afraid I'll get sick.<p>But the clip was very cool, thrilling and showed nice fx work. I'm (still) really curious about this!
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ha ha 9/11..now lets make some money from it...exactly like the fucking idiot yanks who sold water to the people when the towers where coming down...fuck me you cunts will do anything to make some money.....just kidding we love you guys really!!
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Thanks man. You totally just blew Christmas for me. Jerk. ;)
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The creators of "The Blair Witch Project" have to be laughing their asses off.
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I think that some people actually *want* to see New York wiped out and millions killed...See: Independence Day, I Am Legend, Cloverfield, The Day After Tomorrow...fucking masochists.
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Dec. 15, 2007, 11:21 a.m. CST
I already hate the cast. HERE'S how it should have been done
by kevred
It's a great concept, and the scale of it could be great. But if the point of doing it in this way is to humanize it, why show it through the eyes of a bunch of loathsome hipster gen-X/Y scum? Who, in a few cases, are starting to be recognizable actors (been watching CSI lately?). <p>You want to humanize it, show a bunch of regular people. And don't follow the same group of young models everywhere. Having a bunch of beautiful, just-so-disheveled obvious actors running around in front of the camera completely wrecks the immersive quality of it. <p>And not only that, but the highly contrived way they keep arranging themselves in front of the camera--don't just look scared, but look scared at this particular angle--looks distractingly fake. <p>*HERE'S* the way this would be great: have a completely silent cameraman, moving around on his/her own, separate from any group. Don't have a bunch of models be the focus; instead, have an increasingly dazed wanderer move between neighborhoods of really ordinary-looking people. Instead of relying on yuppies shouting, "OMG! Shut up, guys, listen to this!" "Dude, did you see that?" have the camera-eye itself look for things and see things. The silent undercurrent of something like that, even with all the chaos going on around it, could produce a deliciously suffocating fear. In fact, why use a camera-device at all? Why not have the whole film simply seen through the eyes of one silent person? Even a child? How terrifying would that be--seeing the whole thing from a child's angle. Or it could even jump between various 'witnesses'--Rashomon meets Gamera? A parent, a cop, a child, a nurse, etc. <p>It could essentially be a first-person I Am Legend. You could actually feel the increasing desperation of being on your own and having everything steadily fall apart. <p>Instead, this makes it look like we may get 90 minutes of models hugging each other and frat boys putting on false bravado. <p>Just once, could something like this be made without being warped by the lens of its target demographic, or cast from the latest yearbook of a film school?
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shit!
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Still looking forward to this movie.Looks badass'd.--Jediguy at ComicCon
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Feels like your there.
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No offence but cry me a river. It's scary. It's a monster movie. It's entertainment.
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If the whole movie has this level of tension we'll be in for something great.
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Just kidding. Duh. Opening night geekfest!!!
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to the "It came from 40,000 fathoms monster that...wait for it...attacks NY and spreads disease."
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Explain the Slusho, the pictures......and your viral stuff. Here is the truth.......YOU MAKE IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG....THAT IS WHY WE HAVE HAD 3 DIFFERENT LIBERTY HEADS......THIS ISN'T LOST,,,,,,A MOVIE CANNOT BE BENDED AND MOLDED.
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then why would you waste your time posting on here? the internet is so vast. you can easily find some other thread or webpage to entertain you. of course, you won't go anywhere else but here will you? a large percentage of the talkbackers on a.i.c. are not even anticipating the films that are discussed here. what do these people want from a.i.c.? this is a website for fans of sci-fi, comics, horror(to an extent)etc. if you are talking sh_t about most of the films, then you should reconsider wasting your time on this website. anyone agree with me?
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Buildings were blowing up in movies many years before 9/11. If you still can't handle seeing buildings blow up because if reminds you of that tragic day, then don't watch movies like this.
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i am more concerned with the unanswered questions surrounding 9/11 and it's subsequent altered archival news footage by the fox network and cnn than i am with hollywood movies that depict buildings being destroyed. i say let's keep 9/11 in the public zeitgeist by any means necessary. never forget that no plane hit wtc building 7. oh yeah, i can't wait for cloverfield.it will be great.
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a Giant Snake wearing a vest and he's rolling this big donut...It's KRISPYKREMOLA!!!
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maybe not opening night because the next ROH ppv debuts then, but definitely soon afterward. the viral stuff has kinda been overkill, but i just stay away from it. i'm very intrigued by this movie, and while it might not be "ZOMG TEH GRATEST MOVIE EVUR!!!111!!!" it'll probably be a good time. count me IN.
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That skinny Black chick the skinny white boy keeps hugging are so annoying. I hope they get it first especially her!
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anyone come across this before? http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/34893/2001230418515999011_rs.jpg
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it has been certified as fan art...someone's own interpretation of what the monster might look like...
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randomly found it and was a wondering
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Dec. 15, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST
ha ha to all the fucktards that kept saying it was a lion..
by zom-bot.com
...i never even watched the other tiny clips and i could have told you they were saying 'it's alive'. <p>sensible reaction in a world where you don't expect monster to trounce your city. shit exploding, crashing- you might think planes, meteor, earthquake, tidal wave, even UFO, but when you catch a glimpse of a creature, you might actually tell people- 'it's ALIVE'. <P>but yeah all the gen Y posturing is pretty fucking heavy. they aren't the only people with camera phones. this is new york. no tourists around? yeah.
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from what I have read, the artist conjured it up based on what background has been dug up on the whole story at that time...nice effort......
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see what happens when you stay up too late??...gettin' slap happy for sure....
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other side of the world. way down under it was early
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lol jk... couldn't resist that shit from last summer
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After what I've seen so far from this over-hyped movie; it should have been Voltron.
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I have stayed in the shadows after becoming bored with all this hype for a movie I won't see till it comes on DVD. Has anyone contemplated the notion that maybe just maybe J.J has laid out this brilliant marketing plan because he knows the movie sucks. This is a first week movie only.
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Cowboys vs. Patriots in the superbowl with the
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Cowboys winning 44-41.
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I wanna see this lizard punch a hole in the building ans eat the little lady in the towel
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http://tinyurl.com/2esu4v<P>http://tinyurl.com/ypasnm<P>http://tinyurl.com/2djgvs
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http://tinyurl.com/yvb69j
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Found this today. Check it... http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/34893/2001230418515999011_rs.jpg
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If this movie was centered in Tehran I would pay to see it.
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How many suicide bombers it would take to stop it?
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...because there's no one in it over 30
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Let me just precede this by saying I will probably end up seeing this opening weekend simply because the people behind the marketing scheme for this movie has my curiosity peaked and I'm very interested to see this film in it's entirety. With that said, I can almost guarantee that at no point in the movie will we get to see a clear image of the monster, simply because JJ Abrams is the kind of guy who thinks he can get away with anything bc he created Lost and the whole sci-fi mysteriousness that seems to be in everything nowadays. He'll give us the same excuse for not showing the monster as he gave for not explaining what the weapon was in MI:3, he wants to leave it up to the viewers imagination of what could be. In other words, he is just simply not creative enough to come up with anything mind-blowing for the audience and this is his copout so he won't have to admit it to the audience. He is just simply too over-rated and too over-glorified by Hollywood and fans alike.
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I don't know why you're complaining about this movie, we all know that you're going to stand in line to buy your ticket for this movie opening weekend. And how can you say that he's blatantly ripping off 9/11, you don't know anything about the movie, no one does. All you've seen are 5 minutes of the movie where 30 seconds of it happen to be very familiar to 9/11. Sure people were running from the big dust cloud in downtown NYC, but people weren't running around crazy throughout the whole city from a giant monster the entire day either. I think the director's idea in having people run from the dust cloud, much like 9/11 was to convey to the audience how these people are feeling in what their train of thought would be like at this moment. Instead of automatically assuming there is a giant monster, their first reaction would be another terrorist attack. Read between the fucking lines people and stop assuming you know what makes a good movie, there's a reason why we're spending our time writing about a movie in a TB section on a website and not making a movie ourselves...we can't.
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ITS A GIANT FLY!!!!!!!!!1
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You make some decent points in your second one that are contradicted by your initial post. What's up with that?!! And, if you took the time to read through the entirety of the thread before commenting, you'd have seen the post quoting from ShockTilYouDrop's interview with the director, who goes into great detail dismissing your asertion that we'll never get a clear look at the monster.
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PECKER! What sort of bird is that? Wait, it's not a woodpecker, it looks like someone's giant... JOHNSON yes, sir? they rippin off austin powers, not 911 yeah
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Was the funniest.
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Looks good.
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Been waiting over a week for an item for which they keep delaying delivery because of "local weather warnings" - haven't seen a single snowflake. Anyway, didn't realize this trailer got a name - very intrigued to see it but I agree that the producers should keep exposure to a minimum - don't be afraid to hold too much back. This was the main problem (among many) with the Phantom Menace IMO - just imagine if we never knew about the dual lightsaber until both ends lit up, or even what Maul looked like. Different movie altogether. Fuck you Fedex.
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while a new york monster movie could have easily been made without evoking memories of 9/11, the scenes and style of what they've shown us can't deny the inspiration of sept 11th. From the cloud of smoke rushing down the streets, to the building collapse, to the whole shaky cam concept...none of that would have been done without 9/11. They clearly understood the raw impact of those events on TV and are milking (or trying to milk) the audience to the same result...only it's too polished and pretty and perfect. Half of the horror of 9/11 televised to me, was the 'normal' people, the human element. mothers bleeding, old men battered but carrying injured...9/11 was everyone.<P>cloverfield takes place in a world where the musicless mtv generation has apparently killed and overthrown everyone over 30. and i don't really care if they die or not.<P>point is, JJ can't deny his visuals would not have even been conceived without seeing how those things worked in the physical world of 9/11.<P>if he wants to come out and say that it inspired him, that this is his response to it, that this is his american godzilla to 9/11 that godzilla was to hiroshima, than fine...it's still touchy, but fine.<P>but for him to deny 9/11- that would be an insult to everyone involved, touched by or witness to 9/11/2001.<P>sorry, didn't mean to pull a giulliani, but it's hard to talk about it without saying that damn date.
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the wreckage and cloudy area of new york's skyline on the ad art/video thumb up there...is exactly where the twin toers used to be (& were the highest thing) in the skyline? yup.
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I think crying foul over "9/11 exploitation" is a little overboard. Could it be that the folks in the Cloverfield camp just wanted to make a building fall down seem realistic. As for the New York setting...New York has been Hollywood's punching bag FOREVER. Armageddon, Godzilla. Deep Impact, The Day After Yesterday...etc. It's just a movie kids. =)
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Just a quick behind the scenes question; I doubt during a film-shoot you could drop the head of the Statue of Liberty on to a real street without word of it getting out long before the trailer was ever put together, even with all the security in the world...so was this scene filmed on a soundstage? Or this is an actual street somewhere in Manhattan? (with explosions put in afterwards, obviously)
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