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Is McT Directing The New CONAN?!
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
And no, I don’t mean McG. He’s got his hands full with the TERMINATOR franchise, and I wish him well with it. It’s not going to be easy. Mostow just barely pulled it off without shitting the bed, and even so, I think T3 is a pale imitation of the first two films.
Nope, what I meant was that it looks like none other than John McTiernan, director of DIE HARD and THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER, at one point one of the most powerful action directors in Hollywood, may well be the director who was tapped to helm Nu Image’s reboot of CONAN.
Here’s the thing. McT ain’t what he used to be. Yes, he directed DIE HARD and THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER. He also directed MEDICINE MAN and ROLLERBALL. And last I heard, wasn’t he staring down the barrel of some jail time?
No matter... a rumor’s a rumor, and today, this is the rumor:
Hello Harry,
French magazine and online magazine Mad Movies has a scoop for the new Conan trilogy from Nu Image. An insider from Nu Image is saying John McTiernan is first on their wishlist for directing and Gerard Butler might star in this new adaptation.
Here’s the link to the article for you to read!
I am alexxxluthor.
French magazine and online magazine Mad Movies has a scoop for the new Conan trilogy from Nu Image. An insider from Nu Image is saying John McTiernan is first on their wishlist for directing and Gerard Butler might star in this new adaptation.
Here’s the link to the article for you to read!
I am alexxxluthor.
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Who would be the new Conan?
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Jesus Christ.
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Most of the genre directors who started in the 70s just aren't cutting it anymore. DePalma. Coppola, Friedkin. They lose their powers with age. Not Scorcese, though.
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Kind of like Stallone's Lock-Up, except replace Donald Sutherland with Keifer.
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He has four months of prison time hanging over his head.
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How do you forget that the man directed Preditor especially when he is taking over an Arnold film franchise.
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Who else? Im sure you would rather it be triple h or Vin diesl some cunt who can't act.
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Is the coolest movie ever made, every line, every scence is cool.
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i thought terminator 3 was a great addition to the franchise and very entertaining. it was a nice short action film that never let's up from start to finish.
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Butler no good
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As a big Robert E Howard fan, and I believe these new movies will be closer to the source material, I can't wait. I hope the new Solomon Kane movie that's coming out is good too.
Butler would be excellent as Conan, but the role is a little to similar to Leonidas in 300, you know, warrior king. Not to sure about the McT thing. He's been inactive for a while. -
Jett, I agree. They need to nail the script. I enjoyed the Arnie films for what they were. But CGI and FX nowadays will allow for a much grander vision. Keeping in line with Howard's epic, although pulp at its heart, story telling.
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Honestethly.
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R-RATED. No Excuses....Blood, Gore, Guts, Mega Violent, and most definately T-n-A.
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I would be disappointed TiNSelTowN TeRRoR if the folks behind this produced a movie as you suggest. Conan has the ability to become a movie on the scale of Lord of the Rings. It really does have that epic nature, landscapes, characters and creatures etc. But R-rated yes, cause the guy killed a lot of people and monsters.
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I love to see McTiernan's take on Conan, he can do a reboot or even the oft aborted Crown of Iron justice. Not so sure about Butler, he's too lispy, can't shake his Scottish brogue and emotes rage by shouting like Brain Blessed! Conan needs to be a bit more exotic, I want a gnarly Frazetta Conan!
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I can honestly say that directing is much like hitting a ball in baseball. When you connect you REALLY hit it out of the park. But how often can anyone legitmately connect? Sure Great Directors like legendary hitters can really chop wood, but the rest only have a few homers in them. So the real question is can McT pull this off without resorting to juice? After Rollerball, I'm not so sure but I LOVE the conan stories, so I'm praying he has at least 3 homers left in him.
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....will it rule like Die Hard; or suck like 13th Warrior?
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Dec 13, 2007 9:43:03 AM CST
Fuck the Reboot, GIVE US MILIUS' KING CONAN
by judge dredds fresh undies
He's already written the fucking script, the film would be awesome. The only reason for this reboot is to create a 'franchise' and the reason to create a 'franchise' is to make a MORE MONEY. We could have a work of art created by John Milius but instead we're getting shafted by these greedy fucks.
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Reboot Conan . . . is there anything out there that can avoid being re-treaded? You can give 'em Die Hard and Red O, but those'r 20 years ago + now. What've you've done for me lately? Ain't worth mentioning.
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I thought this film about Vikings kicked ass. I remember thinking it had a "Conan" vibe when I watched it. McT is the right man for the job!
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But i still beg for my John Millius´ King Conan: Crown of Iron.
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Robert E. Howard´s Conan wasn´t dumb. Anyway, Butler is not Conan at all. Gimme Danny Trejo!
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The only way this will be reasonably interesting is if they A. Throw Shaq O'Neal as Conan's plus size enforcer or B. Make a a hard, 80's T & A with Jenna Jameson as an evil Priestess.
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A kickass flick, what Pathfinder SHOULD have been like. And I don't have a problem with Butler in the role per se, but I've got to agree that it's getting a little old hearing his name mentioned with any role needing six-pack abs.
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The guy imagination-free studio execs try to cast in every action movie. "I think your Black Panther script is terrific! Now picture Gerard Butler in the title role!"
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...on the HUGE screen at work. Oh man, it was AWESOME AS IT GETS!! I was only 9 when it was in cinemas so this was a treasured screening. I'm taking Point Break with me next shift.
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He's not book-smart, but he's got a fine strategic mind and he's quite clever.
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I dont know how one writes that article and doesnt mention Predator. It's personally my favorite film of his with Die Hard a close second (yes I know I'm probably in the minority) on that.
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Hope they made it as good as the PS3 game.
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New rule: if it's big budget, forget about it being good.
McTiernan, who has done some great action movies (Cliffhanger, Predator, Die Hard), will be attached as a marketing ploy, which is what dominates producer-driven crap.
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Let this be "teh awesome."
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Come on you guys, Conan the Desytroyer sucked furry pods and the first one was and is still a blade swirling, animal skin clad sweaty thighed masterpiece. Watch it again before some tool starts screaming "THIS....IS....AQUILONIA!!!!!"
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My bad.....CROM!
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...And it's a pretty good action movie.
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I knew it was too good for Harlin, but c'mon!
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He was awesome and pumped and ripped to f**k in 300. He's got my vote.
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Just wondering.
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... while building George Miller up. Based on Mori's criteria above these two are pretty much in the same boat - action directors who used to be great but then made some bad flicks. Yet McTiernan gets mocked while George Miller (directing Justice Babies) gets carried around like a king on a palanquin.
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With journeyman goin by the wayside. He prolly could play conan if they put him on that workout regimen from 300.
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"Wishlist" means "oh yeah he'd be great, of course I'd love it if Spielberg directed it, too." I respect slow news days and everything, running a news section for a site myself, but this is just plain not news.
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To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
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Easily my favorite of his movies. Wasn't an easy shoot either. Hot jungle and ego inflated cast members all over the place. Yes, Terminator 3 blew chunks compared to the first two, and 13th Warrior is underrated.
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...was ass. The effects sucked, the script was balls, (Oh, look, here's three civilians just walking through a top-secret military installation, no big deal) and the acting was diarrhea, even by Clare Daines who is usually pretty solid. You could tell she was totally phoning that movie in for the paycheck.
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...has “inspired” him to make movies about a scantily clad, barbaric muscular dude!
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than he has directed since the mid 90's. I can't believe that dude has only directed 10 movies so far, 4 in pre-production and then Conan (if true). I met him once in about '92. Descent enough guy, a little cocky - but not much by director standards. Really seemed to know his shitte about film, however. Told a funny story about meeting Alfred Hitchcock in film school.
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must just of been an irrelevant teaser. It was cool though.
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I'm already sick to death of this screaming, spitting, lisping piece of shit. I know 300 was a hit and Hollywood loves to latch on to the Next Big Thing, but this guy has been starring in nothing but shit films since he began, and while 300 has its qualities as a piece of dumb entertainment, you could have slipped anybody else with an 18-pack into that role and nobody would have given a damn. It's not like he played fucking Spartacus, or even Maximus. People just wanted to see some motherfucking heads roll, and he happened to be the guy swinging the sword. But, I have to wonder if he hasn't been swinging his other "sword" around the casting and production offices, because it seems he's getting just as much potential work as Colin Farrell used to, with astonishingly less actual talent.
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The film concludes when tribesmen realize that Conan is a closet tap-dancer (cue "extravagant musical number"). A disgraced Conan is banished and walks into the sunset as William Shatner saunters into camera range ("Why didn't they cast me in this movie. I'm worth trillions at the boxoffice"). Cut to THE END end title (similar style as the DEXTER'S LABORATORY graphics). Between this one and the 13TH WARRIOR, I dunno...
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..TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THEIR WOMEN!"
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I know, I know, the monster looked cheap and fake, but the performances were good and the flick had a cool natural light low tech sort of feel.
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Do some research before you post these things
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Dude, Conan was/is not dumb. Your basing your assumption on Arnold's wooden performance in moves that had little to nothing in common with REH's books. Conan's a master of linguistics and a military genius on the level of Alexander and Napoleon. He's a master sword maker/blacksmith (only touched upon in the movies with then mentioning that he knows "the riddle of steel).
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'Conan's a master of linguistics and a military genius on the level of Alexander and Napoleon.' Erm... you are talking about an entirely fictitious character, right? With a big sword and bigger muscles? Smashes lots of heads and hangs out with women with big gazongas? Where does the 'literary genius' bit fit in? Did I miss something? Anyway, it's a sucky idea for a movie. One might thing McT might be too busy avoiding a shower incident with Mr Big than thinking about remaking some mid 80's ho hum Arnie vehicle.
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We need asskickers like McTiernan back in the game to show hacks like McG how its done.
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He's certainly had misfires, but when he's on he's a great action director. I have no issues with him if he's the one tackling a new Conan movie.
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Starring Conan O'Brien.
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with the remakes. Can't Hollywood come up with something new?
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the thing that should not be. Unless they can recreate the greatness that was the first Conan movie...please just let it die.
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Mctiernan is a fine choice for a new conan movie. I just hope it's not butchered by the artless board members in hollywood but who am I kiddin
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Conan is Arnie the same way Clint Eastwood is Dirty Harry and Bruce Willis is John McClane. They'll have to make this movie reach new levels of macho adsurdism if they want me to buy anybody else as Conan. As for McT, sure he's hit and miss, but he's up to this. Predator is at the top of my macho movie list. The stuff where Arnie goes all tribal at the end is solid gold.
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Buliwyf!
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Love the flick, love the characters. Not sure about Butler though, he's got the eyes, the voice and the attitude...I'm just not sure if he's big enough. He'd have to do double his workout routine from 300, not just a six-pack but really buffed out all over, just to look right with the long hair and loincloth. (In 300 he had a cape and helmet to fill his shit out). And they'd have to surround him with shorter guys. Oh, and I liked T3. Other than the stupid jokes here and there I like it better than T2, which, like the first Batman movie, has aged badly IMO.
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...yes, you did miss something: Omar saying "military genius" not "literary genius". Decidedly different things, and Conan -- literary character that he is -- was written as a military genius, by R.E.Howard, whose literary genius is somewhat debatable (good, fun pulp, but genius?). You're thinking of the big lunkhead written by John Milius and Oliver Stone, and "portrayed" by Arnold Schwarzenegger, bobdybuilding genius.
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Any of you guys even seen Dear Frankie? Probably not, its a proper film, with no car chases in, anyway... Hes a good actor, not the best but good, with bags of charisma. His stardoms been coming a while now. Its better a real man like Butler than the two year ago thing of casting Paul walker in everything...jeez.
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about movies like this. They pounce on franchise icons like this. They want quantity not quality. Milius' version is definitive...like Donner's Superman.
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...I'd like to chime in on the Thirteenth Warrior lovefest (although I would love to see an original cut of the movie, which I hear had a lot of studio tampering). I like Butler okay, as well. Don't know if he's Conan material, but I remember being pretty intrigued a few years back when I heard that he'd tested for James Bond.
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...to all those who revere the Milius/Schwarzenegger effort as "definitive", I can only assume that you've never read any of the books, or -- if you did -- you have deficient imaginations that are easily eclipsed by what you see in movies. They made a fantasy movie for pro wrestling fans, basically. Schwarzenegger is a graceless oaf, sort of like the generally held, ill-informed image most people have of Conan. Howard's character is infinitely cooler and more complex. And Conan's is not a revenge story.
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That, STARSHIP TROOPERS and DAREDEVIL are three films that I stand behind no matter what anyone else says about them. I would say they're guilty pleasures, but I feel no guilt watching them.
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Starship Troopers was craptastic and new it, but the other two were just crap.
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The news on other websites say he was interested but the role ended up going to Ben Afleck. Say what you will, Ben Afleck doesn't fuck around and I expect one helluva Conan! GET 'EM BEN!
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1) I love Milius's film, but it's certainly no true Conan film. In fact, the character is so far removed from Howard's vision that if you changed the names of characters and places in the film, nobody watching it would say "Shit! That's Conan!"
2) Howard's Conan is a cunning, lightning-quick, giant, semi-feral, steel-thewed absolute fucking killer. Milius's Conan is a sluggish, clumsy, lumbering fathead who depends on his sidekicks to get him out of scrapes more often than not.
3) Butler would be an awful Conan, and I say that as someone who genuinely likes Butler a lot.
4) I love The 13th Warrior. Say what you want about it, but it's one of the more accurate depictions of viking-era Scandinavian life - well, minus the war against neanderthals on horseback. Also, I've always thought that Vladimir Kulich, the guy who plays Buliwyf, would at least visually have been an excellent older Conan (if you dyed his hair black and beefed him up). The guy is the spitting image of the Ernie Chan-era Conan from the comics.
5) McTiernan on the top of his game would be a good choice for director, but that guy doesn't exist anymore.
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Check out this guy. Give this guy a role in T4 at least. And look wise, he could pull down Conan.
http://www.kickinger.com/
His name is Roland Kickinger, and he's Austrian too! -
albert pojols as red sonja.
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New from McDonalds
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Might not make a great Conan (not sure if his acting skillz might be up to par), but slap some Gargoyles on that guy and he'd make a fantastic Terminator!
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And a new talkback catchphrase is born.
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I know Robert E Howard backward and foward...Millius' version is not a BOOK. Therefore his is the definitive FILM version. Beautifully photographed and great score too. I take it for what it IS. Im willing to bet theres a good chance a redux might fall far short of the books also.
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in a Terminator reboot.
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Believe me, I also know Howard very well. The only reason his is the definitive version is because all other versions have sucked ass so far. Of course it's beautifully shot. It also has what is probably the best and most appropriate film score ever. That still doesn't change the fact that Milius just didn't try very hard to capture Howard's Conan or the Hyborian Age. Besides, Milius has more or less admitted that he used the property to make the "viking" movie he had always wanted to make.
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Allow me to quote Blackadder:
"That is without a doubt the most contemptible plan in the history of the Universe."
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Why not? As long as we're raping and pillaging our way through every franchise...why not make it excessive?
Also, how much acting skill does one need to play a terminator?
I'll grant you, other than looks, might not be the best choice for Conan, but as long as Triple H is in the running...
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I got psyched up a few years back when it was Milius and Schwarzenegger that were supposed to be continuing the Conan franchise. This new rumour of McT and Butler is quite frankly FUCKING AWFUL NEWS.
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Exactly. Until I see otherwise, Millius' vision is tops. Frankly, if a new version captures the Howard charater... yet sucks on every other level, it still wont be very satisfying.Also, one of my favorite scores of all time. Right up there with Blade Runner and yes... Flash Gordon.
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I agree about the character only being one part that has to work. A true Howard Conan in Conan the Destroyer would still have sucked whale balls.
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He's portrayed as being well-toned, but sorta lanky and Tarzanesque sometimes.
He certainly doesn't look like Arnie did in his prime, although Arnie was a good Conan.
Either way, it won't be Conan without tits, bloodshed, and beheadings. Conan is an animal who basically kills, eats, and fucks.
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..directed all of my favorite films in the 80's, the best action director of that decade. Gerard Butler? Is that the dude from 300? Conan needs to be huge... Schwarzenegger huge. You can't take some regular actor and send him to the gym for a couple months. You need to get a bodybuilder that can act. (I'm not saying Arnold was a great actor) If the actor is under 6'5 or under 240lbs then its not Conan, sorry.
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zomg! cloverfield isnt a lion its a crab!
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LOL. Yes thats a good start. But Conan is WAY more than that. He's whip-crack smart, a leader of men. A man's man if you will and cunning as well as Doc Paz pointed out above. I love the way Howard portrays some of the "civilized" men in the books. Soft,pampered,perfumed weenies, which automatically make Conan appealing by contrast.
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I like Gerard Butler, but don't want him as Conan. Honestly, I'd love to see a King Conan with Arnie in it, even if he is a lot older now. If Ford can do Indy again, then wait for Arnold to do King Conan. The casting alone would guarantee a huge opening.
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Lets hope after working with STALLONE on RAMBO, producer/financier Avi Lerner goes after SCHWARZENEGGER for some older CONAN films! Arnie is the only guys fans...key words guys...fans want as CONAN! Fuck a young Conan, we want a real man like Arnie with an axe going ape shit!
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...LAST ACTION HERO, so they should team up and do this new CONAN film with Arnold doing a great extended cameo as old Conan.
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Why not give John a break. Yet G.Butler as Conan. No.
I would go for some muscle unknown.
Yet make the movie true to Conan.
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the story which The 13Th Warrior is based on is a GREAT read. Never saw 13th Warrior because I heard it sucked. If you havent read it...get it. Its short, I read it in a day or so. It's riveting!
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This just too easy:
1) I saw and hated this movie when it was called the 13th warrior.
2) He should cast Michael Vick.
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So I checked the IMDb for McTiernan, and found that he is responsible for several flops. His record of hits to flops is about fifty/fifty.
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Ever since McDonalds went with the new southern recipe I can't help but stop in everyonce in a while and order a Mc T.
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Conan rocks! Do not Mcfuck this up.
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Fans all want to still one day see a battle scars older Conan with Schwarzenegger! If Ford is back as Indy and Stallone is back as Rocky and Rambo, why the hell doesn't Avi Lerner and Nu Image Films just tell the fans that maybe they will "try" to get Arnold involved. The TERMINATOR SALVATION people know the fans want Arnie in T4 so they are trying their damm best to get him in for a cameo role.
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You beat me to the McFuck.
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T2 was an ABORTION of a movie with more holes in it than a string bikini
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the script is done...he wrote it, i read parts of it and its AMAZING!! the only reason they are doing this is to create a "franchise" for more $$
sign the conan petition here to get them to do milius version!
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Xiphos,the only film pre-governor Arnie was going to do with Cameron was TRUE LIES 2. Rumors had Jim pegged for CRUSADE a few times. Milius was only attached to KING CONAN. Wish the WB and Avi Lerner would meld their ideas, get Arnold and go film Conan when he is out of office.
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Doc Pazuzu is dead-on, everything he's said about how to make this work is 100% right, spot-on. Conan the Barbarian is a fun movie, but it ain't a Conan movie. It's close, but that ain't Conan. I wonder if these producers could find a way to buy the old Poledouris score; I don't see how anyone else could write a better Conan theme. Gnarly Frazetta/RE Howard Conan all the way. Make it good, make it wicked, make it a hard Rated R and do Mr. Howard some justice, and I will see the damn thing three times in the theater. This could be amazing. Don't fuck it up!
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Milius should have done King Conan and end the trilogy there, an older bearded Conan would work perfect for Arnie and if he can do T3, how about lending some love with the role that was his break out ascent to stardom anyway? And if not Milius then Verhoeven would go great having worked w/ Arnie before and knows his violence and sex well.
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And, right, remember that those old Howard stories were really focused on the barbarism vs. civilization thing (with savagery always coming out on top). That old Robert E. Howard biopic -- The Whole Wide World -- wasn't a great movie but it evokes a much better sense of who Conan is than the entire Milius picture.... Poledouris score aside. Gnarly Frazetta Conan!
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http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071214_predator_director_doing_new_co.html
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nice. make it an epic. don't even think about sequels. hope the producers are predetor and die hard fans and let john do his thing.
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Totally pwns the original.
http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/thedarkknight/posterexclusivoomelete.jpg
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Surely there has to be one aspiring actor out there who has genuine talent and the kind of physique that can be molded into a convincing Cimmerian for the big screen. McTiernan kind of worries me though, he hasn't been on game for a long time, and even when he was at his full blooded best, I don't know if he has the grit for a full blooded Conan. Yeah, at his best he can make big, violent, entertaining films, but I still can't see him painting a proper Conan canvas, I just don't know that he's got the vision and scope to deliver on that, even at his best.And while I personally love the Milius Conan movie, and would have loved to have seen one final outing with Milius and Arnie to tie that series off and send it out in style, that time has passed, so how about this time they actually make the R.E. Howard version of Conan? Now there's a "remake" or "re-imagining" with an actual purpose for once. And no pg-13 bullshit either, he's a barbarian, a reaver, not a fucking babysitter, so the film needs to be primal and full blooded, not toned down or packed with cheesy 'humor'. Take the material seriously, play it straight, give it an epic sense of scope, and don't castrate it of it's rough edges. Conan is all about blood and passion, and any new Conan film needs to have plenty of both. So bring it, or by Crom I'll kill you all.
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And he directed that, and 13th Warrior is a great rental. The best DTV movie that wasn't DTV.
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Before they reboot, they should get Governor schwarzenegger the Stallone Growth Hormone treatment and have him play a scarred-up, old as hell but still badass Conan who fights a demon snake priestess and manages to screw her before dying in furious, bloody glory of a thousand sword cuts heralding the end of an age. Featuring music by Manowar.
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Dec 13, 2007 7:52:17 PM CST
Arnie was going to cameo in the 13th warrior....
by judge dredds fresh undies
shame that didn't happen, would have been cool.
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Pretty obvious isn't it? It's because he is from fuckin' SPARTAAAA!!!!!!
Which of course now also qualifies him for pretty much anything and everything from potential presidential candidate to the new jesus.....well in the mind of hollywood and fans at least. Never doubt the power of an angry righteous man on film. Mel Gibson practically made a career from it playing essentially the same 'angry at people killing his wife' guy in pretty much everything he made. We all bought it hook, line and sinker until he started getting drunk in public and calling cops 'sugartits', then we forgot about the righteous part of his film characters and started thinking more about the crazy part.
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I would still love to see the original cut of the 13th Warrior, back when it was called Eaters of the Dead.
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CRUSADE should still be made...Arnie should direct like Sly and Eastwood do nowadays. He must have learned ALOT from James Cameron. But even if Milius doesn't direct an older CONAN film, McT could still get post Governor Arnie to do a real bloody bad ass Conan film. CONAN should be Arnie first film outside of Governorship...the hype of his first film would sell it into box-office gold. How can Avi Lerner not see the money in that!!!!
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Not a good idea.
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God, I hated McTiernan's DVD commentary for "Die Hard." I went in expecting some great behind the scenes info about the flick, and instead I get two hours of him waxing on about how he wanted joy in the film and comparing it to Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream." Please, give me a break. When Jackson DeGovia, the film's production designer, gives a better commentary on the film than the director, you know you have a bad commentary track.
And thank God McTiernan didn't direct "A Princess of Mars" back in the 90's. Read this link:
http://tinyurl.com/2vwrmr
According to Ted Elliot and Terry Rossio, McTiernan wanted to change John Carter of Virginia to "John Carter of Vagina" and have him be an alcoholic. Great, McT, real nice. Not to mention he helped prevent the film "Smoke and Mirrors" from getting made.
Now I admit he's made some terrific films in the past. But why do people think he's so great? Lest you forget, he also made "Basic," "Rollerball," and
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is indeed awesome. The difference in tones made the book and the movie totally different animals, so I don't mind that they changed the title, but I do wish they would release this mythical uncut version I'm hearing so much about.
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If It came out soon after LOTR's The 13th warrior would have been a hug hit!
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Hunt for Red October and Predator still remain steadfastly near the top of my favorite action movies. And 13th Warrior was about as cool as Eaters of the Dead could be on screen. What happened to you, man?
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Die Hard. But that should really go without saying.
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...his commentary for Predator sent me into a coma. Literally. In fact there's every possibility that this is all just a really fucked up dream...
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and that's Arnold.
Yeah, he's too old now to re-boot the Conan saga, but any attempt at a re-make with a new actor will flop... just as the new Arnold-less Terminator movie will flop.
I'm not saying Arnold should come back (I think he's too old now). I'm saying leave those franchises alone and move on to something else, because nobody can replace Arnold in his prime.
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Bonds, Clemens, Petitte, and Gerard Butler
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He was one of the best. Thanks for reminding me of him.
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13th warrior is an awesome film. I just hope we get some kind of tie in from the old Conan to the new. Get Arnie to cameo as a king or something before the new hero goes off on adventure. I hate retreads and rather have movies that respect franchises that remain popular with the fans. My one tiff with the new Batman movies. I want an unknown new hero too... surely it cant be that hard to find a big Germanic muscle guy with basic acting skills. Conan isnt Shakespeare...
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The previous Conan films ended with Mako promising the tale of King Conan's wore a heavy crown on a troubled brow. Maybe someday Arnold coud film a real King Conan epic about when Conan ran Aquilonia?
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The previous Conan films ended with Mako promising the tale of King Conan's wore a heavy crown on a troubled brow. Maybe someday Arnold coud film a real King Conan epic about when Conan ran Aquilonia?
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Someone go drag his ass in from the Zone. We need his insight!
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Would be great to set up a future KING CONAN film!
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From MovieHole.net...John McTiernan would have to be one of my favourite filmmakers. Yes, I know, he screwed up the “Rollerball” remake… but most of his back catalogue is as solid as Schwarzenegger’s butt cheeks. And speaking of, there’s a rumour floating around that McTiernan might be headed back into Schwarzenegger territory – he of course directed the Oak in “Predator” (1987) – for the long gestating “King Conan”.
As Aint it Cool points out though, ‘’ last I heard, wasn’t he staring down the barrel of some jail time?’’. Unless they fit one of those homing devices to his ankles – like Shia had in “Disturbia” – and if he tries to leave the set to wire tap someone it explodes?
There’s no word on whose going to be playing Robert Howard’s musclebound hero in the new “Conan” movie but there’s still a chance Schwarzenegger “may be back”. Earlier today we had word from an old-time scooper who said Schwarzenegger might be talking with WB about a cameo in “T4” and Nu Image about a role in “Conan” (whilst this site says Gerard Butler could be the new "Conan"). Of course, and like the McTiernan item, both remain rumours until confirmed/denied/debunked/removed.
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...let's set up a future film that will NEVER HAPPEN. Great idea. Maybe when he's 90 he can come back for Terminator 7 too while we're at it. Face facts man, Arnie is done with films. He's moved on. It's over. Maybe he'll do the odd cameo here or there, but he's not a movie star anymore, he's a fucking politician, and he doesn't show any indication that he wants to go back to being an action hero movie star ever again either. Yeah, it kinda sucks, but sometimes you just have to accept the way life is. At this point I'd say that Arnie is about as likely to return to full time acting as he was to return to full time bodybuilding back in the day once his acting career took off. Sure, he might have a fling with it again just to show that he can, just like he did with Bodybuilding, but all in all he's done and moved on. And there's no point in waiting for the return of something that's never gonna happen. Just enjoy the films he already gave us and leave your obsessions for people like Stallone who are still in the game and have every chance of a comeback.
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That movie captures Robert E. Howard´s spirit.
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...some time ago which I had read in a Swedish newspaper. It was an interview with Fredrik Malmberg, head of Paradox Entertainment who currently own the rights to Conan (and the rest of Howard's properties). The item never showed up on AICN, but what Malmberg basically said was that they were aiming for a new trilogy of films starting with Conan as a thief and progressing through the years until he ends up King of Aquilonia in the third and final film. Malmberg insists on being true to Howard's vision as much as possible and wants an unknown for the role since a believable Conan can't have any previous baggage of the type a known actor would bring.
I don't know where ABking gets his ideas from since WB lost the film rights in June of this year from what I understand. Just his usual jizz-dreams I suppose. -
Yep, I'm with you - an unknown all the way, and not some wrestling or bodybuilding meathead. There are plenty of huge muscular guys who don't look like mulleted refugees from a cheesy Vallejo painting. Surely at least one of them can act.
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Butler is not Conan. I agree with DocP's assessment of needing no "baggage" with whomever is playing Conan. When I see this person, I want to just think he's Conan, not the 300 dude. And count me as someone who really enjoyed the 13th Warrior. I always try and catch that when it's on TV.
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There should be a separate takback for people who have actualy read the Robert E Howard stories.
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...even worst than THE GOLDEN COMPASS. Face it, Paradox Entertainment and Avi Lerner should get ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER back!!!
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That Malmberg story is the shit! That's the way to do it. God I wish it would play out that way. And maybe Yngwie Malmsteen can pitch in on the score. I jest of course.
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I love the Arnold Conan films... well, at least the first one. But Conan was created in the 1930's and has had many incarnations before the Governator came along. In fact the character in the films was barely recognizable as Conan. His entire backstory and personality were changed, as was the setting - Rober E Howard's fictional Hyborian age was all but unrecognizable. Imagine if you will a Lord of the Rings movie where Frodo is just a dim witted small person who's never even seen the Shire because he lives in ancient Greece/Norway hybrid instead of Middle Earth and instead of needing to destroy a magic ring, he needs to rescue Pegasus from the minions of Loki. That is about how close the Arnold/Millius Conan is to the actual source material. That doesn't mean it is a bad movie - I love it. It just isn't the definitive Conan story you seem to think it is. Thus far Conan The Cimmerian has never been translated to the screen properly. A new version would be highly welcome in my book.
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& Oops. Damn lack of an edit button. Get with the times AICN. Or suffer my embarrassment... ummm... yeah.
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Howard's Conan was a panther who would move in flashes of light and was extremely cunning and even a dry sense of humor about him, despite having a very simple personality as a barbarian. Arnie's is more oafish and more of a Viking type, yet it's so enjoyable to watch nonetheless, seriously Conan is my 3nd favorite 80s movie behind Empire and Road Warrior, it was this movie that spawned the 80s wave of sword and sorcery copies.
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i've read about only half of all I agree Howard's stories need that specific mood and atmosphere to get it right, it becomes horror a lot where everyone is dying the most excruciating ways and crazy and grim shit's going down while Conan could give a shit less and destroys all his opposition. Even simple things like walking through a lone street: "The approachhing figure went not furtively, like a thief, or timidly, like a fearful traveller. He srode down the nighted street as one who has no need or desire to walk softly. An unconscious swagger was in his stride, and his footfalls resounded on the pave." It's a character boost just to read it.
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...about Arnie's Conan, and remember I love the film, is that he is FUNDAMENTALLY different from Howard's original. The latter was the very definition of a free spirit, unbent by the will of men and who would rather be dead than be a slave. The former, however, is a broken lunkhead who, if he hadn't been turned free, would have been perfectly happy spending the rest of his days a slave/gladiator. In Milius's film he more or less accidentally discovers the value of freedom whereas the whole point of Howard's barbarian is that he was ALWAYS free and couldn't be tamed by any force on Earth.
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yeah i know
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