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JUSTICE LEAGUE Retitled?? It May Now be Called...
Merrick here...
A reader named Pat sent in this message. I've sent Pat a follow-up e-mail in an effort to find out more about Bale's appearance. There's a station called Nova in Australia. Given that Miller will be shooting his JL project there, my guess is THIS is where the news came from. We'll update appropriately as further details are gleaned.
Here's Pat's message:
Last week at the AFI's George Miller mentioned that JUSTICE LEAGUE will have a new title soon.
We may have it already.
Christian Bale was on Nova (FM) today in an interview (pre-recorded I assume) for "Yuma" and said he has "nothing to do with AMERICAN HEROES, and their Batman will be different to our Batman".
There you have it!
AMERICAN HEROES. Sounds like a branding on Cartoon Network...or some sort of reality show?
More on this is more comes in!
We may have it already.
Christian Bale was on Nova (FM) today in an interview (pre-recorded I assume) for "Yuma" and said he has "nothing to do with AMERICAN HEROES, and their Batman will be different to our Batman".
There you have it!
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It's the only logical choice.
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Is this a joke...? No really is it..?
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Crappity Crap Crap!
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What a terrible name. It's scary to think about how bad this movie could end up being, George Milller or not.
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Seeing as to how they're changing "GI Joe" to the "Global Integrated Joint Operations Entity" because "A Real American Hero" won't sell in the current global political climate, I seriously doubt that they're going to starting calling the JLA the "American Heroes."
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...I still aint going to see it!!
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No way this movie gets a new title WITH America in it, when it was pretty obvious to begin with that it's gonna be just JUSTICE LEAGUE (NO "of America") so they can market it worldwide. More likely this is the fake name they're using to film it with.
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btw, Justice League is a cool title. Dumbasses.
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Why on earth would they consider losing an established brand name like the Justice League? I Agree with Abin Sur. Gotta be a fake to film with for security, etc.
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....Every country that isn't the Good Old U.S. of A.... what wrong with being Universal.. and isn't Superman an Alien.
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Never thought it could be so shitty...
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hope Bale got it very wrong there
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Sounds like the name they might use for overseas distribution.
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A Holiday Special about the diplomats of America, land of the hero!
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They would never allianate international audiences like that. As one of them, I can tell you it would be a mistake. I mean, I would watch the movie anyway, but a LOT of people get turned off by your sometimes over the top patriotism. Specially considering today's intenational situation. I'd bet anything this isn't the name, I would even bet it will be just Justice League, no "of America". You know, "truth, justice and... all that stuff" style ;)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. This movie will suck. WB does not know how to use their DC characters properly. A Justice League Movie without Bale or Routh will suck. At least, they should have brought in Keaton to play Bats. At least that will keep some continunity in their universe.
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nuff said! At least Team America was a parody!
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And there's a lot of product placement. All kinds of Heros.
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actually have done the Hulk/Iron Man crossover scene, or if they haven't they've at least taken notice of how ecstatic everyone is at the prospect of such a scene, and how badly recieved each scrap of news on this whole Justice-League-minus-Routh-and-Bale-and-any-reason-to-have-faith-in-the-project thing and they're shoehorning such a scene in there - Marvel has a big chance here to come out smelling of roses in terms of fanboy appreciation. Avengers movie for the win!
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I was thinking the same thing! Supes is kriptonian; Martian Manhunter is... well, martian; Wonder Woman is greek; Aquaman is atlantan. That leaves Batman, Green Lantern and the Flash as the only american born citicens! I know most of them "live" in the usa, but they weren't born there, so what the fuck's up with Justice League "of America" anyway
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Those who believe that DC would let this be the title are fooling themselves. The movie is being made BECAUSE of the title; why this site doesnt filter story's like this...I dunno.
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...fake news. Celebs are frequently misquoted. For all we know, "American Heroes" was a working code name for the project, like "Blue Harvest" or something.
I don't think that they'd blow this & rename it. Not for the international audience, which is important too, but for the existing property connection. Like Marvel, DC wants to hawk as many copies of their books as possible. I sincerely doubt that they're retitling JLA anytime soon. Thus, they have to keep the movie name as Justice League, especially when you've got familiar league members.
I wouldn't get my panties up in a bunch. It either sounds like a misquote or incomplete news. "American Heroes" could even be a subtitle. -
..Sneaking through the stratosphere to STEAL OUR JOBS!
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This movie is going to be crap, now they're going to ride that PC express straight into the cellar. Great way to totally fuck up an established brand. Why not just fucking have the JLA run by Captain Planet and Al Gore while your at.
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American Gladiators and have Hulk Hogan host it, brother?! Hopefully this was just a code title for the project or something.
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According to moviehole.net, the Justice League comic was once released under the title of "American Heroes" for the foreign market, so this could either be a) a foreign title, or b) a title chosen to appeal to a wider audience.
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How about we call it.....guys who wear costumes.
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If they want a dorky title. They can have every hero call the other "superfriend".
Anyway Bale probably just this threw that title out by mistake. He probably has no idea who the Justice League is. Even having played one of the leaguers twice, he's probably never read any comic book outside a FEW batman comics. Besides, why would he even know what's the new title if he isn't related to that movie. -
Dec 11, 2007 8:43:24 AM CST
They've turned G.I. Joe into a UN Force because everyone hates A
by dirkbelig
...and it would be hard to sell overseas, but they're going to make a movie called "American Heroes"?!? HA!!! The day Hollyweird doesn't slam America in order to bolster their "citizen of the world" bona fides will be the day after the Sun explodes.
On the pitiful "Moronic, er, Bionic Woman", when they introduced her new CIA agent bohunk, she asked him if the CIA were the good guys or bad guys and he mumbled something like, "It depends. when a REAL CIA agent would be like, "Despite what you keep hearing in the media, we really are the good guys. Say, don't you work for a shadowy, extra-legal, corporate mercenary force, Miss Pot."
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JUSTICE LEAGUE is gay, its been gay, and it'll be gay FOREVER!
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Fucking moronic WB Execs.
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It'll make a mint!
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these pubes are American Hero's!!!
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considering he's not american and before batman wasn't into comics at all...that maybe he just pulled 'american heroes' out of his ass because he couldn't remember it was called justice league?
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because if they are that dumb enough to change the name that has carried the comics for decades... well you know how they like to re-imagine things. Core members will be SuperFabulousman, Wonder-If-She-Puts-Out-Woman, ADHD-Flash, and Clinically-Despressed-Bat-Dude. Brought to you by Chevy, Flash drives a Chevy. :-/
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or that Bale, as a Welshman, was simply confused. Because changing Justice League for American Heroes just makes me shudder. American Heroes is bland, disconnected and terrible. I don't normally bitch about titles, but Good Lord ... it sounds like they're trying to cash in on the Heroes "craze," which already has died down and the show probably will be canceled by the time this movie comes out anyway (and no, I'm not a hater, I'm actually a big fan of the show, but I'm also a realist).
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...Legion of Heroic Acquaintances, Hair Bear Bunch... so many possibilites! C'mon WB execs... we know you can be so much lamer and more idiotic!
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This is getting worse by the minute... O_O
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If they weren't embarrassed by GI Joes being American.
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Bale was being derogatory. They were already worried that Justice League Of America would alienate foreign audiences... so the only logical and decent title is Justice League. Unless of course they are fucking insane.
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Anybody think to wonder how, since Bale is NOT in the movie, he would be privy to a "new" title for the movie? Despite what you may see on "Entertainment Tonight," Hollywood is not just one big club where everyone knows about everything and they all conspire to keep the little guy from finding out. Geez...
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What a cockup. Miller gets a half step of slack because Bale will use up his 3 pic deal on the stand-alone series, and nobody in their right mind would hire mannequin Robo-Routh. So, he is forced to re-cast. We get that. But that is no excuse to cast 21yr old BatHammer and shrimpy Supermanuel!
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damn title limits.
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All right, it'll suck. Any hope I had is now gone.
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knowing how even in australia, America isn't held in great regard, Bale was passively knocking the 'silly' project that threatens to confuse the projects he's involved with by flippantly calling it that 'american heroes' movie, giving it as stupid a name as he thinks the project is. ...and maybe also because now he knows justice league, and that'll be no justice league.
seriously..take rumors and hearsay and treat it as such. don't jump on every morsel that somebody hears over a radio. it's out of context, if bale had written what he said on the radio, i'd doubt 'american heroes' would have been capitalized.every other site is dismissing this as bunk, and you'd be wise to distance yourself from it, AICN -
It's a more interesting title anyway, probably a better story.
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i had a dream the other night that there was a superman/batman crossover movie called 'penut butter and jelly'.so there it is, entertainment news. run with it. oh and i also overheard in a crowded lobby that heath ledger isn't THE joker but turns out to be a loyal henchman of the real, bleach-faced joker, played by someone else entirely, revealed in act 3.....more factual news for ya. better post that thread and don't forget to include the three '!!!'s
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My childhood is being raped by a tunnel boring machine.
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Kill yourself please. Thank you.
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I have looked forward to every single comic book-based movie, even if just a tiny bit (Ghost Rider, Punisher), except for this one. This piece of shit better not have a negative impact on future Batman sequels.
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i bought a pack of cards the other day...that crazy dark knight promotion has infiltrated everything- there were TWO joker cards in the deck! wtf! lolz! omfg!!! (!!!)
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Bale does know what the Justice League is. He said it because that is a title that has validity somewhere, since there is news that someone working with Miller on the movie has also revealed that title.
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Moviehole is getting a report from someone else too that it's called American Heroes.
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Sure, "Justice League of America" is pretty hammy... but how can you get hammier than "American Heros"?
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Isn't it enough that they recast everyone with CW stars?
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where else are all of these American heroes from?
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Why the heck would someone hear about the title change of a Warners Brothers movie on the FOX lot? This is still a bullshit story.
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Their going to F up Green Lantern before it even gets a chance to get off the ground. God damnit.
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This project is imploding already! I love it!
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Because with this shitty casting, this isn't the Justice League anyway.
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Dec 11, 2007 10:17:02 AM CST
"American Heroes" may play on patriotism and earn more $$$$$$$$$
by librerarian
but I would still prefer "Justice League."
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It just nipped out their second choice, "North Korean Child Rapists".
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Also, when do the aliens give them all suits? Will William Katt make a cameo appearance?
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George Miller is a dumb ass. Since when did we start making movies for the International audience. It's up to the respected countries to rename the movie for release.
First, they fuck-up Transformers. Then they fuck-up G.I. Joe. Now, they're going to fuck up the Justice League?
George Miller can suck my hairy balls and these "sucks your balls" studios need to stop slandering our favourite comic book titles by renaming them to fit the the world community. Last I heard, those foreighn nations don't help to pay for the movies that American studios make ...
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well, if they are right- they better do it as a really retro plot where they haven't formed the justice league of america until the end of the movie. either way, both names are outdated. are they only going to protect america?
'emergency! reactors have exploded in russia!'-'sorry, we only save america'a giant alien meteorite is coming toward earth!'-'is it going to hit the US?'-no, it's going into the ocean-and it'll be catastrophic'...'but not america? nevermind then, unless aquaman wants this one'
seriously, and amazon, a martian, a kryptonian, an ocean king, two americans (flash and lantern) and a guy who lives in a ficional city (batman).
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American Heroes?...That's fucking awful. Is Miller trying to be ironic or something? Because it's not working if he is, it just sounds stupid.
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..so that we are non-partisan and watch over the world...but we're strictly american.
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Justice League of the World doesn't sound catchy.
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...I'm with you. I think Bale was simply being derrogatory and dismissive. Maybe he even made air quotes or talked out the side of his mouth as he said it. Or mimed masturbation. Judging by his apparent regard for that project, he was probably substituting "American Heroes" for "That Fucking Piece of Shit With Wings", or words of a similar sentiment. I just don't think George Miller would be quite such a twat. Or at least I hope not. My impression of him is that he has some sort of head that he keeps on his shoulders, and inside of that head is a type of "brain". Maybe I'm wrong. If Michael Bay, Ron Howard, or some other vapid American power-junky was directing this -- however -- I would be getting a sickening feeling right now that this was all true.
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Bale isn't a comic book reader, and I doubt he's paid much attention to this project besides telling people he's not involved, so he probably just flubbed the name. Warner Bros. wouldn't take a project predicated solely on the success of a cartoon series, and then name it something completely different from the popular cartoon.
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...this could so easily still turn into a 'BayFest' in anyone else's hands. I'd like to think Miller is running the show, but it sounds like his gay (and not that that's a bad thing) costumers and paedophilic casting agents and 90's thinking, patriotic, corporate studio dicks are running this show.I dig miller. i watch road warrior monthly, i loved babe and babe2 even when my friends were kicking my ass about it...this all just sounds so out of miller's control now.
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That's the proper name. Period. Change it and we'll nuke Australia. End of story.
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maybe this will be one of those parallel universe stories where supes and the gang are total Neitzchian assholes who rule the world instead of protect it.
THAT would make a kick ass movie...this villain story sounds weak- but a movie where the established team takes on their evil dopplegangers because something has caused the two worlds to bleed into each other....THAT would be a movie. -
Directed by an Australian, filmed in Toronto, starring a bunch of English and Canadian actors, with special effects work done in India, tailored to satisfy an Asian audience.
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Why not just get schumacher to make it george... you're no better.
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Keep it real, keep it diverse.
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Ever think of THAT, fuckbots?
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Anyone else think Anchorite felt a stirring in his pants when the title was announced?
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it has to be.
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why it's still called the Justice League of *America* anyway. They're active over the entire world (and beyond), not all the members are from America (Superman is at least a citizen, but I doubt that Wonder Woman, Aquaman, or Martian Manhunter are -- maybe they applied for citizenship in their secret identities, but that would make their citizenship applications fraudulent and so invalid), and until recently they weren't even based in America (but instead in a satellite or on the moon). The only reason for the name that I can see is that the group was based on the 1940s Justice Society of America, which made more sense since they were fighting on the U.S. side in WWII.
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of the mercifully forgotten period when, as part of a toy tie-in, the Justice League was renamed the Super Powers Team.
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Jesus Fucking Christ.
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You know, maybe Christian Bale is too busy having sex with many, many anonymous women to even know what the Justice League is, and so he called it the wrong name by mistake. That's my guess.
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Why not do the Giffen and DeMatteis version? This way, nobody gets hurt/insulted.
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Dec 11, 2007 11:23:39 AM CST
Most of the box office for films like this comes from overseas..
by bong
so BRILLIANT name!
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...that THE DARK KNIGHT is now going to be called THE MAN IN BLACK, and that Bruce Wayne changes his name to Johnny Cash and uses the power of music to combat crime. I expect to see a new headline about this and please quote me as saying it. Thankyou.
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... it's "Tim Burton hired to churn out Planet of the Apes remake crap attempted franchise startup/extended toy commercial for studio suits" George Miller. And the results will be similar, I'm sure.
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Heh, heh, I think that is Norm McDonald's joke.
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Thanks goodness Bale has the sense to keep his distance from this film. I don't care of Miller is directing or not, JLA on screen will look cheesy.
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Yeah, in the DC comics series _Super Powers_ (partially written/drawn by an obviously reluctant Jack Kirby) the JLA was called the Super Powers Team, and around the same time the _Super Friends_ tv show changed its name, first to _Super Friends: The Legendary Super Powers Show_ and then to _The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians_. See http://tinyurl.com/24ba4e and http://tinyurl.com/388gbv
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If this all goes down as being true (and not Bale just making fun of the movie), I really won't be surprised. Why? Because these empty suits counting their money manage to fuck up at least one thing on every movie.
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I too believe Bale was employing a little-used technique called sarcasm.
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This is crap!
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With a couple of crappy TV writers and the director of Happy Feet. Why don't they call it what its going to be. Countdown to Infinite Dissapointment
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to something as shitty as "American Heroes." If anything they'll tag a colon onto Justice League and give it a subtitle. Besides, there's brand issues they have to worry about. I would imagine DC would want to somehow incorporate their comic books into WB's film.
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I really am.
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...people still think this film is gonna get made? Seriously if JLA was actually happening, we'd have heard something official outta WB by now (if not a month ago!) From the looks of it, TERMINATOR IV is their big tentpole for 2009 now.
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Thats right JL:SHiT
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It's a totally unrelated production. I think it was just a slip -- or more likely a cheeky, good-natured putdown.
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Why do they always have to mess superhero movies up? These should be the easiest movies to make. Just follow the comic books. There's your script right there.
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I don't know how anyone could believe it is. Actually I do know...there are so many people who want to hate this movie that having it called American Heroes would just add to the misery they can happily wallow in. It sounds like Bale was making a dismissive comment about the movie by calling it "American Heroes". It's obvious to me that Bale and Nolan are both pissed about this movie because of the great work they're doing on their own batman movie. In a way I can't blame them. but i also want to see Superman and Batman on screen in my lifetime along with Martian Manhunter et al...
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..Then just dont bother. Brandon Routh is Superman and Bale is Batman... having 2 actors play the same character at any one time is just silly. and the name is shite too... ive officially given up hope of this movie being any better than a fantastic four movie....
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We need you to come back and remind us it's GEORGE FUCKING MILLER!
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Secret Team: Success Unlikely!
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yeah Miller will fail on a Schumacher-like level with this.
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Moviehole is reporting the same thing from another source rather than bale on radio. other people are reporting the same thing.
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I'm tired of movie titles that start with the word "American". Give it a rest already, Hollywood! Try this for some perspective: substitute "German", "Swedish" or "Indian" (as in person from India) for the word "American" in any of these films. "Swedish Gangster", "German Beauty", or "Indian Heroes". Time to cowboy back down again and get over yourself, America! No one else cares.
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am I right folks?
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Do you remember those kids in school? I'd be drawing a cool pic of Wolvie and one of them would walk and, "is that X-Man? He's my favorite."
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read you cunt.
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Read my response to the Moviehole article above...gossip about a WB movie on the Fox lot doesn't hold a lot of water with me.
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-and this is truly going to be a gen Z movie starring a bunch of teenyboppers that won't follow any continuity to comics or anything....just put the CSI treatment on it and call it
Justice League: America
that way at least it incenuates that there are other branches in the league and makes it not seem so
damn nation-arrogant.no matter what, until some kick ass news comes out, i'm considering the whole thing- and this name slip business- a joke i'm not going to be concerned about anymore.good day.
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Dec 11, 2007 1:13:59 PM CST
This is much ado about nothing. It'll be the JLA or The JL
by the founder
Talk about a slow news day.
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"who the fuck comes up with these titles?!"
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There is no way they'll abandoan the JL or JLA moniker. "American Heroes" is probably just the film's shooting name, like "Blue Harvest" or "Intimidation Game"
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Ohh former wielder of the ring. i'm not saying it's true. just telling people that Bale didn't make a mistake, because someone else is saying the same thing. it isn't something he made up.
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I'm really getting tired of the whole "Anti-American" sentiment. What the hell? If it weren't for the *AMERICAN* audiences, he'd be stuck on BBC television doing stupid ass shit like "The Englishman who went up a hill".
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...in that slightly 'I don't care what the title is, it's gonna be shite' ways.
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All right, nobody has said it, so I guess I most. Here's the main(sigh, along with so many others) problem with this movie. Remember Nicholson's Joker? Yeah, the mainstream took that Joker and ran with it because in those days comics cost like 75 cents, were printed in cheap newspaper paper and were mainly for very young kids, so no one knew any better. But that wasn't the Joker, that was Hollywood development. Jon Peters and Peter Guber and a couple other suits along with Tim Burton and Jack Nicholson(none of whom had ever read one comic book)said- and the bad guy, The Joker, will be a character sort of like a The Godfather, crossed with that Frank Nitty, you know, that bad guy from The Untouchables, that movie made a lot of money you know, crossed with the character Jack Nicholson played in the Witches of Eastwick(Trust me, this is how movies get developed). Then a funny thing happened. Batman 89 exploded and the merchandise went through the roof. Then a new genre was created, backed by the openings of new comic stores, sequels and franchises of films which promised those stores they would have years of sales ahead of them, with new comics, film merchandise, etc. Then the quality and look of the comics improved and the prices jumped to a couple of bucks. Slowly but surely a lot of people got into comics and the whole thing became an animal. Then Spider-Man opened and the comic film exploded. Each comic character became a franchise in their own right. My brother and I for years always said that the only movie that could challenge Titanic's box office is a Justice League movie. In 1999 you could walk down any street usa and asked the people if they knew who Wolverine was, The X-Men, Daredevil, The Punisher. Nothing, not a clue. But ask them if they knew who Wonder Woman was, Aquaman, Green Lantern. Yup, known about them for years. And that recognition factor meant a money franchise. DC Comics and Warner Bros. had the upper hand there. But my brother and I figured they would find a way to screw it up. Sure enough. Then they needed to expand upon the character of Batman from the Batman animated series, and decided to put him with other heroes and created The Justice League Cartoon, somewhat of a spinoff from the Batman Animated series. So they put that on the mainstream. But that is NOT THE JUSTICE LEAGUE just like Nicholson's Joker is not the Joker, see what I'm saying? Now THE BIGGEST PROBLEM is that that is what they're making into a film. A film version of the Justice League cartoon. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. The Justice League is Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, and HAL JORDAN, HAL JORDAN, HAL JORDAN as Green Lantern. That's the origin. And they are super heroes in their own right, in their own cities and team up sometimes when the threat is too big for one or two of them. The cartoon never got it quite right, and the film should never had been made from the cartoon. But since the people in charge don't care to read or even to do any research, and they figure- well the cartoon was kinda popular, and that's what the mainstream know by know, let's just go with the flow, heaven forbid us in Hollywood ever go against the status quo. You know we like sure things always. And the movie will make some money, but not what it could have made done right. And something else, if Batman is spying on the other heroes, taken from the Infinite Crisis series, that WAS NOT a Justice League of America series, so it's even worse. This will be a disaster in comparasion to what could have been. Just for the amount of Heroes together it will make money, but it will be a product hated by many. Me included. Me specially.
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Ohh my room when I was in 4th grade, even if you believe that the sources saying this believe what they are saying, how can you possibly think it's true? Especially when Hollywood consistently goes out of its way to tone down ANY positive aspect of America in the movies so that they can make more money overseas? Seriously, do you REALLY believe they'll call a JL movie AMERICAN HEROES?
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Messi, you DID say that you're not saying it's true...I withdraw that portion of my retort.
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Dec 11, 2007 1:30:00 PM CST
He either got the name wrong or it is titled differently...
by kirbymanly
in England. They'd never call it that. Justice League is a brand name
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I would like to see him involved somehow. Maybe not as Batman, but one of the others. How about a nice campy JLA with Patrick Warburten as Batman?
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I mean, it's obviously a bad idea, alienating both comic book fans and international audiences alike, but then again in Hollywood anything is possible. I suspect it's a "code name" rather than an actual title. But if it really is going to be called that, look for the rest of the world to get it under the title JUSTICE LEAGUE, rather like the rest of the world got DIE HARD 4.0 instead of LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, a play on the motto of the state of New Hampshire - probably too "local" for export, in Fox's opinion.
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You all hate America. It should be called "American Heroes of America, U.S.A.", and the Martian Manhunter should be renamed the Martian-American Manhunter. Oh yeah, and Superman isn't from Krypton anymore, he's from the future where manifest destiny has finally come to pass, and everyone is American, and everyone has super-powers. Wonder Woman is from there too. And Hawkman and Hawkgirl.
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As in this whole story and everything about it is bullshit. It is utter bullshit that the producers would chance losing the box office money generated from name-recognition alone. Changing it from Justice League of America to Justice League International is bullshit. Making G.I. Joe a task force of the corrupt and inept UN is bullshit. The America-hating pussies on this talkback are full of...you guessed it: bullshit. There's a reason nobody except Johnny Depp is sneaking out of the US while millions are trying to sneak in. I spent many elementary school years in Germany, my middle school years in Japan, and have spent a good deal of time in the Middle East and Latin America. The United States is as good as it gets. But please, if you think it is so horrible, nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to stay. Liberty: ain't it fucking grand?
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..start a trilogy of JLA films with the golden age...nazi-punchin', light hearted action..indy jones style.then a second film of the silver age...supervillains start to come into the picture..it's a little darker, but no more dark than recent incarnations of FF or anything..then a 3rd picture more up to date with modern comics- darker and more 'realistic' like x-men and batman begins and spidey, where it's very character involved, and often the heroes don't even get along with each other and fighting crime seems like a winless situation.keep the same actors where needed, like supes and WW to show they don't age much. make their 'age' be their growing tiredness of war and humanity. have Bats only in the 2nd and 3rd movie. by the third, have him be old and bitter. everyone he started with in the JLA has changed hands 'cept superman and WW.
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Are the Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, or Wonder Woman really American?! Come on!
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it's in Lake Ontario, on the American side. Near Rochester. So that takes care of Aquaman.
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Don't forget Superman. He wasn't a natural born citizen either. But he *did* stand for "Truth, Justice, and the American Way".
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...suck. I'm just saying.
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after he came to America illegally to steal that job from you.
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Does this mean Supes or Batman will kill some of the other in friendly fire?????
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because I'm afraid of him.
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Conversely, will members of GI Joe (now under the auspices of the UN) rape African girls and turn the other cheek in the face of genocide?
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I am guessing you are 25 or under. The primary effect Batman had was to bring in a rush of speculators, which caused the boom bust of the early-mid-90's. And comics in the 80's were sophisticated. Comics have been evolving since their inception. In fact, there was much in the 90's, mainly by Marvel and Image that was much less sophisticated than the average 80's comic. That's when Alan Moore did Swamp Thing, Killing Joke and a little book called Watchmen. Frank Miller began writing Daredevil in 1980 and released Dark Knight Returns in '86. Claremont had been doing X-men for a while (and was still good at it until the late 80's) and Wolfman and Perez were creating New Teen Titans.
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"Justice League"? I guess that leaves The Avengers with "Superfriends"! Hulk Hogan as Thor! Wonder Woman has a beer and bangs the entire JL(A), including Wendy, Marvin, and Gleek! Cobra Commander has chosen Blu-Ray and here's why! First, bitches!!
Gastro. Stomach medicine. Has codeine in it. Best I could do in here. -
Bruce Willis would have never done that. God I love Bruce.
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Has the world gone mad?
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... WHAT THE ROYAL SWEET FUCKING COCK SUCKING BULLSHIT IS THIS GAY FUCKING CRAP!?!??! OH MY FUCKING GOD... OH MY FUCKING GOD... FUCK. SHIT. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK COCK SUCKER FUCK BALLS SHIT.
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...I told you this project was utter shite. And it just gets worse and worse. Good for Bale for distancing himself and the good Batman from this steaming pile.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJn4h_VL_Xk&feature=related
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what do you really think about this? ;)
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This already looks like some shit you'd see on Spike TV.
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george miller! you directed road warrior! grow a pair! but, i lost all hope for this project when they decided to cast it like a wb show. damn shame. big, damn shame. this had so much potential...
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If they're shooting for something more serious than the "SUPERFRIENDS" cartoon...yet no more serious than those "FANTASTIC FOUR" flicks, then they could call it "SHIT ON A STICK" for all I care. However, if they're shooting for something on the level of an Alex Ross graphic novel...with perhaps a slight spin from the talent of the director, while retaining what is great about the characters and their (visual) cinematic qualities, then I'm very interested. Justice League or not, this could be great. But at this table, I'm not a gambling man.
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George Miller's great film moments are the Road Warrior (fair enough) and the one segment from TZ:The Movie that didn't suck. He been making movies at a Kubrickian pace for the past twenty years, but not one of them is good. They could've done far worse with a director, but they could've done far better.
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Hasn't been very successful thus far with audiences or critics. Maybe Avatar will break the trend? I'm guessing this won't, unless it ends up being a lot better than it sounds thus far.
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What's wrong with Justice League? Now every american hater internationlly will blackball this film.
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You guys need to read more. Hasbro has assured fans that GI Joe will be based out of the "Pit", as they were throughout the comic book series. They released a press release to fans ... and yes, as the rights holders, they have the final say as to how their product will be interpreted.
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There's the link to the release.
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ever think of that one?
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Is it true that actor Regarding Henry is making another Indiana Jones film?
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You did not understood my post. I am not 25, or under. I took part in the whole #900 thing to have Jason Todd's Robin killed. I read and remember the original Crisis with the deaths of Barry Allen and Supergirl, as well as the Superman's revamp by John Byrne, Jim Aparo's Batman, Wolfman and Perez involvement with the Titans before Perez went to Wonder Woman and whatever Alan Moore, Frank Miller, etc. were doing when they changed the face of comic books. Yes, Comics of the 80's were sophisticated and were outlets for Mythology and worked on many levels, psychologically, phylosophically, etc. What I was saying is that you me and some other people read comics and most of those people were under 20(and when I say you, me and some other people, I mean in a country of 200 million+, maybe 4 million, and of those mostly young males). Now, the rest, the majority of those 200+ million people, went to the movies, went to Blockbuster and rented vhs, and watched tv. And that market with all those people was not exploited by the comic book product. You couldn't get the comic book product, ie superheroes and supervillians on the screen, or at blockbuster, or on tv. It wasn't mainstream. I think because I said comics were cheap and made with cheap paper and had no mainstream access you thought that I was somehow putting comics down. I wasn't. Now, Batman 89 changed all that gradually up to the point we are today. You even say it yourself that in the mid 90's some stuff wasn't as sophysticated as in the 80's. That's because by then thanks to all the people brought in by Batman it had become mainstream and once that happens and it's for the masses, the quality suffers, by then we get into high culture(for a specific reduced group) doen to low culture(for the masses, for everybody, lesser product). Now, my point again, in those days, when it wasn't mainstream and you couldn't find any superhero stuff on tv, or the movies, etc. If you asked people in those days who Wolverine was, or Xavier, or Daredevil, they had no clue. But still in those days they knew Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, etc. See my point? Only comic fans knew the Marvel characters and some of the other's companies characters in those days. Warner Bros. had the upper hand there. But I digress, my whole issue is this. hst666, you seem to know comics and its history, you seem to know and have followed the characters for many years, tell me honestly. Is Jack Nicholson's Joker, THE Joker? You know the character of the Joker as it exists and have existed for many years? No, of course not. And that's how it's going to be with these Justice League movie. That's my point. It's concieved by people who are not qualified to bring the concept to the correct fruition, just like Nicholson's Joker. It's based on something it never should have been based on-The Justice League Cartoon.
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Oh wait.....
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well the justice league cartoon isn't a bad way to go.
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I'm betting money that Batman and Superman are not gonna be in this.
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That's the title, trust me. After the genius of Beowulf 3D; making Justice League motion capture would be a great idea, especially in 3-D. For those who've seen Beowulf this way, will agree. For those who actually BELIEVE that the title is anything BUT 'Justice League', go line up for Ghost Rider 2. DC is way, way, way to protective of their source material to let anyone fuck around. I mean, FUCK MARVEL and their 'iconic heroes' (minus Cap America). Justice League is Mt. Olypus, and Superman is Zeus. These are the characters and hero's that the word "iconic' was CREATED for. I mean, after Spiderman 3, just how bad can a comic movie get.
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Yeah messi, if that's your cup of tea, hey, to each its own. Only I like a little more that Superman knocking on an opponent for two minutes, then the opponent putting Superman through cars and walls, Batman comes in with a gizmo, momentarily knocks the bad guy, but he recovers and hurts Batman for the course of one full minute, Diana helps Superman up to his feet, while Flash runs and runs circles around the bad guy trying to do...something. Then The Manhunter telephatically tells them all how to unite and beat the baddie. Go and watch right now, every episode is like that. So two-dimensional is not even amusing. And it's for children. Now, I'm not saying it's a completely terrible show. It's good for exactly what it is. A an half-hour episodic cartoon show on Cartoon Network. It should not be made a full-lenght movie. And it specially should not be a movie directed by the guy who did one of the most adult-oriented, kinetic, visceral action movies of the past 30 years-The Road Warrior. You know I read recently that a big problem with the world is that people just like crap or mediocre stuff, and the counter- argument was that people nowadays are content with very little, they are conformists with wathever is given to them. With this movie we kill two birds with one stone. Both arguments apply. Wow.
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I think its pretty safe to say that this... thing... is going to be an unmitigated disaster. What a shame. The JUSTICE LEAGUE animation is incredible.
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I've read that before. They could place the Pit anywhere. It does say, no Brussels but that doesn't mean the team won't be UN international troops. In fact, It painstakingly makes sure it doesn't say anything about America at all in it! They could care less about what's going on, so long as they sell toys. They are not proof of quality control and haven't been for over a decade.
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Get some these older actors that can actually act.
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this is so rediculous its hilarious. good job miller.
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Older, exactly. Had a similar confab with a fellow about Dark Knight Returns as a film. Kurt Russell as Batman/Wayne, etc. But an older JLA film would work wonders. They REALLY should be skipping the whole thing and making Kingdom Come as a film.
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he should be. I'ts be alot more interesting. Whooo could it be? Believe it or not, it's justme!
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Kindom Come would be fantastic.
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"I mean, after Spiderman 3, just how bad can a comic movie get."
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What the fuck is this, a movie spin off of All American Hero? Will they have an update of "I'm walking on air" to go with it? Shit people, this movie cannot afford to alienate DC heroes fans from this anymore than it already has by existing in a separate cannon from the other DC hero movies. They NEED the Justice League title at least. The only reason to not use it is because you know this movie will be shit and you want to be able to make a REAL Justice League movie later without too much loss of face (kind of like how they're making another Hulk movie now). Do not fuck it up this badly!
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Bale is high on crack. Even the meth-heads at WB wouldn't pass on the trade mark Justice League name (sans the "of America" for overseas marketing).
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PLEASE
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Is probably a subtitle, like
JUSTICE LEAGUE: American Heroes
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That's just not a good idea at all.
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Kal - Harrison Ford
Bruce - Clint Eastwood
Diana - Cate Blanchett
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He was having a laugh at the movie...the title isn't American Heroes. Stop taking things so seriously.
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Someone get me a coathanger...
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Listen Warner Bros Hears a clue. Either MAKE A JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE OR DONT MAKE ONE, BUT DO NOT FUCK WITH YOUR FAN BASE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A JUSTICE LEAGUE OR AVENGERS MOVIE FOR DECADES!!!!!!!!!
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Meh!
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Thats one criticism of the series I definitely have to disagree with. If there was anything which stuck out about show it would be its impressive depth of characterizations and sense of continuity. I'll concede that the first season was relatively flat since it seemed they weren't quite sure what tone or direction to take and some of the scale of threats they faced felt pretty underwhelming considering their roster. Regardless of how flashy the action scenes were or weren't though, every episode provided a window into the basic essence of the characters and showed the qualities which have defined the them throughout their existence and various incarnations.
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Directed by Zemkis AND Alex Ross. The Book actually looks motion capture. So, ok, Kiddies, cast the Kingdom Come movie. Mr. Sark's suggestion for Harrison Ford voicing; inspired, "it's not the tights honey, it's the kryptonite".
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Sorry...He's simply saying that there's nothing "branding" them as exclusively American...the title will reflect that. They will probably reduce it to 'Justice League' or something.
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Obviously, Bale doesn't know or care about the name "Justice League" and just threw out the first thing that came into his mind. American Heroes is not the title. Give me a break.
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Over 1000 American films have "American" in the title - look it up on IMDB - so this is yet another one. Hurray for Hollywood creativity. "Yawn"
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Extraordinary Gentlepeople of Justice. Hey it would make more sense.
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Everyone grab a broom, it's SHENANIGANS!!! Sorry they won't call it America Heroes plain and simple so let's not get all worked up until official word... which in no way shape or form will be called American Heroes.
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that'd be sweet.
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not really, i just thought it was funny that after 231 posts, every single one of them is filled with hate for this title. even if this story was true, its not going to be true for long.
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Dec 12, 2007 1:09:48 AM CST
Wow! Was highly anticipated but now i just don't care anymore
by darthbakpao
it's getting shittier and shittier... Warner Bros is destroying their own properties
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I dont think any movie will be too American especially when it doesn't have to be. I can't wait to see the Tapdance Hollywood does, when Its time to make that Captain America Movie Watch America will be a Acronym or they'll wind up calling him Captian Justice.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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i can see where you're coming from, it is aimed at children which is why i am sometimes baffled by people hating smallville which is far more adult. but what i like and think is important in the JL cartoons that should be in the movie is the tone and the character dynamics, but by all means make it more 'lord of the rings'. PETER JACKSON FOR JLA!
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I think you'll find Bale was taking the piss! He sees JL as a big lump of American cheese about Americans Heroes saving the world. Which it is. I think it'll rule. But thats how Bale see's it... I doubt you'll see that as the title. If you do... then Miller has fucked it and should be taken off!
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The proposal for Twilight of the Superheroes was much much better. Kingdom Come is just a poor version of it.
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A princess from the lesbian island of Themyscira dressed in an american flag bathing suit, a body builder from Mars in a bondage harness, the King of Atlantis in a goldfish skin shirt and the last Kryptonian in tights and boots with a flag on his back. Plus a test pilot with a magic ring, a really fast cop and a crazed millionaire vigilante dressed as a nocturnal flying mammal. That;s what America is all about.They though include guy with arrows, tiny guy and cop with angel wings from Thanagar.With Dennis Hopper as Snapper Carr.
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Half the fucking spandex wearing pricks aren't american anyway. Can't they just call it Justice League?! Fucking idiots.
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the computer store line just went out of business, so that name's available.
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This is WAY TOO HORRENDOUS
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What a stupid rumour, anyone who believes this is pretty naive.
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Dec 12, 2007 6:12:15 AM CST
I mean c'mon Harry this is complete shit
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Why would you even post it?
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Dec 12, 2007 6:13:53 AM CST
Sorry, that should have been Merrick
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Pretty lame dude.
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Dec 12, 2007 7:29:51 AM CST
America, Fuck Yeah!! Is this gonna be a puppet movie?
by harryblackpotter
It might actually work if Bats, Supes and WW are actually wooden puppets, at least the puppets will be better actors than those teen titans they've cast. I also think if they are changing the name, it should be to Little-Leaguers - and all the heroes should still live with their parents and have to sneak out at night to fight crime and shit.
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Two months ago Bale's agent gets offered JLA, but after discussing it with Bale, they pass...two months later an aussie geek asked Bale about the JLA movie, and Bale, who no doubts get offered 100s of films each month, DOESNT RECALL THE TITLE CORRECTLY...
Mystery Solved...
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... you are misinformed (I would've said, "...are an idiot" but I'm in a good mood today). You are just perpetuating the pigheaded, poorly-educated, American belief that animation is, and should only be, "kid's stuff" instead of the more enlightened view that animation is an art form. Also, the Justice League series kicked ass! Now I'll leave it at that so you can get back to "Dora the Explorer." ("My shoes are blue. Mi zapatas esta azul. What color are your shoes......................................................................................................................Good!")
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I don't know what's worse - the movie studios pandering to ultra-PC marketing trends or what would be, according to most of the sentiments on here, and entire planet full of people who, despite looking forward to it for years, would apparently decide to not see a film based entirely upon a SINGLE WORD IN THE TITLE. I understand that the US has its detractors at the moments, but honestly, what does would say about the rest of the world if all you guys were right and they would be willing to forego what will probably be an awesome flick simply because of a word in the title? For that matter, what does it say about the rest of the world if they're willing to profess hate for an entire country based solely on its current leader? Bah.
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insert above.
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I dont want to see Ghostbusters looking like an X-box game intro.
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I think there may be some misunderstanding as to how motion capture will be used in this movie. At least, from what I have read, motion capture will only be used to some degree. And that makes complete sense when the focus is on LIVE ACTION, especially when considering the subject. I've explained long ago, here in such talkbacks at AICN, that the best way to make such a movie a reality would be to use "motion capture" for background characters (flying, fighting, etc.) when the shot involves multiple characters (using cgi powers). (One alternative, which may be all the more convincing though more expensive, is to layer the moving images of the actual actors in costume, with cgi effects at work.) All I'm saying is...is that "motion capture" can, in fact, blend with the reality of film. It's just a matter of using the best judgment, looking at the needs of the film from all angles, considering budget, and to have enough knowledge...as to what will result on screen. I'm completely convinced that the time is right for an EPIC superhero movie, beyond anything we have seen before. When you add up all the advances of modern day special/visual effects, and even some old-school effects and tricks that hang around to this day, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON why we can't experience a NEW summer blockbuster like days long past. Personally, I think Hollywood just needs more talent in the director's chair,...along with the trust and a transition of power to realize a singular vision.
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Whoops, I think I just gave out the premise for a sequel. Please don't make this.
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2 movies enter...1 movie is watchable.
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with the red suit who used to hang will Robert Culp in the 80s series and who never figure out how to use the alien red power suit because he lost instructions. Is he gonna be like the team leader or something.
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this is a Team America sequal or a 9/11 rescue workers tribute? Then there gonna be like WTF is Batman doing here? And Supes? Wonder Woman? Isn't she Greek? Or Themoscaren? that aint in America...is it?
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There is no way WB would be stupid enough to alienate a good section of their audience like that.
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Tight ass spandex heroes/heroines kicking assYeah. I know it's long but it sounds good.
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Is reading the talkbacks.......Oh and for the record, I hope it's called "Justice League".
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I have to say that Kingdom Come is one of the most overrated works in comics. It looks good, but the story is only average. I believe it was influenced by and wanted to be Twilight of the Superheroes. Those of you who are unaware shoud type that into a search engine along with Alan Moore. The proposal is probably on the web somewhere.
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Dec 12, 2007 2:59:17 PM CST
Since we're on the subject of fucking gay new titles....
by riddleman1674
Let's get William Katt to play Supes! I mean after all, he is the..GREATEST American Hero,....bwaaaaahahahaha *sigh* I kill me...
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A fatwa on you all!
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Mo-Cap is terrible and lifeless and a pox on all cinema, but that rotoscope style animation from Waking Life and Scanner Darkly would be PERFECT for a JLA adaptation like this. I seriously wouldn't even bother seeing another mo-cap movie, even if it was written by Shakespeare and directed by Kurosawa, but I would be first in line for a superhero movie with that Waking Life animation.
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Cmon, you know this movie will blow. It COULD be great, it SHOULD be great, but it won't be. It'll be some half-assed piece of CGI crap they throw together with a script most likely written by a non-union writer (aka: 10 year old), and "starring" a limp, vaguely bored voice-actor cast. Tell me I'm wrong. Please. Tell me. I want to be wrong about this.
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That´s my theory
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That is the best comic book story since the days of Watchmen, DKR and Sandman. Hell it's up there with Lord of the Rings and Dune. It ended today. READ. The blackest night is coming.
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most of the League isn't even from America. surely somebody's pulling our chain.
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