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UPDATED W/ STORY POINTS!! Badass (And Official) Art From KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL Is Now Online!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Merrick again...
Producer Frank Marshall gave an interview to USA Today in which he briefly discusses the origin of the "Crystal Skulls".
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Numerous rumors have indicated that the Skulls of the title are extraterrestrial in origin; I've pointedly been told that this was absolutely the case. Some online reports have said the "alien" creators of the Crystal Skulls would be suggested by temple statues that were pointedly designed to evoke the aliens in CLOSE ENCOUNTERS (i.e. a deliberate cross-connect between the two films); I know nothing about whether this particular conceit is in any way accurate.
More concretely, here's what Marshall had to say about the Skull issue:
"The theory is they are shaped by higher powers or alien powers or came from another world, or an ancient Mayan civilization had the powers," Marshall says.
CLICK HERE to read the whole piece, in which you can also find out the name of Cate Blanchett's character, and the nature of Ray Winstone's role.
>>>ORIGINAL STORY FOLLOWS<<<
Merrick here...
CLICK HERE to download a bigger, High Resier version from the Official Site.
This is artwork from longtime Lucas art guy Drew Struzan; it's the first thing I've seen about this film that sent a chill down my spine.
Pretty damn cool.
Pretty damn cool.
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love it
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just kiddin'
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But either way, it's pretty damn cool.
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New Indiana Jones Drew art! That made my fucking day.
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Who needs snakes on a plane when you have Indy on a fiery bike?
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Finally getting excited...
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thhe skull is.. alien-y.. and maya-y.
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Hey someone had to start it.
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2008 is going to KICK ASS!
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Dec 10, 2007 10:10:04 AM CST
Well one thing is for sure. That poster IS Indy.
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
Fucking great!
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It reminds us of the series and what we liked about Indie. My only concern is the rumored SPOILER:
alien plotline. That's lame. Indie isn't about futuristic sci-fi, he's old school. His finds have mystic power, just because they're mystical! Not because they're alien artifacts. Boo.
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...I'll throw you the whip!
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I can't wait for this. Damn fine.
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Featuring the Next Tom Hanks! Except he's Jew!
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the hidden pony, and Abe Lincoln???
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Dec 10, 2007 10:13:36 AM CST
every time someoone posts "and the__of__" i feel my heart sink
by ironic_name
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Dec 10, 2007 10:15:06 AM CST
if you turn it upside down you see a broken computer screen!
by ironic_name
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Dec 10, 2007 10:15:17 AM CST
Indiana Jones and the sinking of ironic_name's heart
by just pillow talk
heh-heh....I'm psyched for this...
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"Two big heads..."
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HOW IS THIS ARTWORK GREAT WITHOUT SHIA LEBEOUF?! I mean everyone, EVERYWHERE LIVES for Shia LeBeouf! I don't even know who this Harry Fjord guy is? But he is taking precious one sheet sapce from SHIA "COOLER THAN JESUS" LEBEOUF.--Seriously, he's talented, and all, I guess. And I know I'm committing heresy here; but does anyone else get the feeling that the "Even Stevens" kid is a just maybe... just a little... overhyped--DON'T HIT ME!!! You're right! He's God! I shall sacrifice many spotless sheep and virgin babysitters to Shia! Take them... TAKE THEM ALL. "MALO RAM! KALIMAR!!!" "YOU'VE BETRAYED SHIA! YOU'VE BETRAYED SHIA!!!"
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I cannot wait. You cannot be an Indy fan and not just love this. I havent been this excited since Vanilla Ice did the ninja rap.
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looks dirty and fiery and cool and not too...cozy...and exciting and adventurous and contains that spark of evil... oooohhhh. fuck it's good. and Indy looks absolutely perfect. ...it's good. see you in a couple of hours.
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...beautiful...I shot my wad.
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where no one said it... the dreaded F joke. But we have shitty fake Indy titles for good measure. Only on AICN.
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or where the nose would be. No, I'm not shitting you, it's a face.
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with an Mr. Rogers standing in the foreground.
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"...and I can still kick your 30-something year old ass."
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that they Urbanized Indy so he is hip with today. Too bad they couldn't get a rapper in their somewhere.
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The movie however will not.
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I hear you, and I agree that Indy has always been old school. The mystic powers of the MacGuffin artifacts always come back to seek revenge on the Nazi evildoers.
However, this is cold war Indy. This is Indy 20 years later in a world where the Nazis have lost. A world where science is taking a leap forward, and in the USA--it's the era of Roswell, area 51 and UFOs. The alien connection actually DOES make sense in 1957. -
Should've checked typos and punctuation. Meh. Whattayagonnado?--Still, "You've betrayed Shia!!!" is comedy gold. Absolute comedy gold. But it's trademarked. I'm lookin' at you Seth Green. I better not see that on Robot Chicken.
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That could be your review for the movie on the DVD:Elegant, understated, refined...beautiful...I shot my wad. 4 stars.
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Yo, bra, I'm totally on fire!
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Yes, they will attempt to modernize Indy to make him 'hip.' Especially the way he speaks. In fact, I intercepted this fragment of the script, a scene in which Shia tries to school the aging Dr. Jones on how to talk young:
SHIA: Nobody says 'dorkwad' anymore. If you really want to shine someone on, you say 'Hasta la vista, baby.' Or you can mix it up a little...
INDY: Hasta la vista, dickhead.
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Intense!
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HIIIIIlarious
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Indy swings into action ... on the dance floor!!
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Look above the skull nose, on the bridge of the nose. There's a tiny face that looks like one of the Aliens out of Spielberg's "Close Encounters." Hmmm...another clue to the alien connection?
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Great poster, can't wait for this movie, why can't it be today dammit!
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You're right - that's the archetypal alien face.
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sure will!
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Even if they have slightly changed the Indiana Jones logo lettering. Look closely at the D in Indiana. Overall though, real Temple of Doom vibe to it - fucking great! Bring it!
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Inevitable Lariat of Gerontology.
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... and his cardboard cutout from 1983.
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Dec 10, 2007 10:40:15 AM CST
LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE HIEROGLYPHICS NEXT TO THE WHIP
by bringingsexyback
There's a secret code for getting a free Whopper Jr. with cheese.
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Speed Racer is now my most anticipated film of 2008. So KOCS just got bumped down to third, behind Dark Knight.
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Yeah the face is definitely there.
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http://tinyurl.com/2p56ta
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Can I use that one FuckMichaelBay?
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Where she's got her legs spread and tits out?
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Dec 10, 2007 10:47:03 AM CST
Looks so nice it almost makes me forget about La Boof.
by jackpumpkinhead
Almost...
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you'd rather see Speed Racer than Indiana Jones? Weird...
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It's totally awesome!
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I love Indy to bits, but this poster is awful.
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The plot line was throughtout the Max McCoy Indy book series.
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The eye sockets are much lower than a human skull, more compressed, and oval shaped. The concha or nose area of the skull is very small and oddly shaped.
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Short. Round.
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Indy is BACK. And I am damn happy about it.
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...Spielberg used the 'crystal stage' props designed by Roger Dean for the 1980 Yes "Drama" Tour. And that this summer, when kids go to Arbys and order a Crystal Skull meal, they'll get a HAM sandwich, wafer fries, and an authentic leather WHIP.
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. . . to see Indi take on the flaming skull of Agent Smith from the Matrix flicks!Still can't get excited for this though.1) Temple of Doom and Last Crusade never came close to being proper sequels to Raiders. How could this?2) Title is among my top 5 worst movie titles of all time.3) Ok, who'm I fooling, I'm pumped and there opening night.
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I wonder how many little skulls there are in that poster. So far I've spotted five, not including the big one.
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Dec 10, 2007 10:55:39 AM CST
Wait...is this a remake of The Phantom with Billy Zane?!
by retroactive
They were pursuing Treat Williams, three skulls that locked together, and bad dialogue that entire movie! Let's hope the script's been updated!
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This is what movies are all about baby!
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minus the torn sleeve and phallic machete. But here, he's holding the whip and his free hand is curled into a fist, so he's not playing around. He'll fist you.
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Indiana Jones! I always knew some day you'd come walking back through my door. I never doubted that. Something made it inevitable...
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it explains the wide, child-bearing hips.
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after reading a SHORT synopsis on Dark Horizons. It looks like the writers took quite a bit from the book series. Winstone as the rival archeologist (Indy and the Unicorn's Legacy) and the skull (Indy and the Philosopher's Stone and Indy and the White Witch) Aliens plotline is in Indy and the Sky Pirates
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...Hmmmm.
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If the artist had actually decided to draw Harrison Ford's face. Who the fuck is that guy?
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Nos, they came out in the 90s. Quite good reads actaully. Takes like a day to get through one. Good action, good story. etc...
Written by Rob Macgregor, then Martin Caiden and finally Max McCoy. Indy and the Dinosaur Eggs was pretty fuckin' sweet (despite the title) Also, Darkhorse comics is releasing an onmibus of it's several Indy series, of which, Indy and the Cross of Iron is the best IMO (THAT would have made an awesome movie) -
He's by himself in the poster. In the movie Shia LaBouef will be next to him looking cocky and self-important. Fuck.
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...One-Eyed Willie's Treasure.
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I have to agree about the photoshop comments. It seems like the background and Indy himself clash in this poster. It's like whatever Harrison Ford posed for was a completely different mood or situation than what is represented in the poster. But whatever, one thing is for sure. This is definitely Indiana Jones.
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eh? It's clearly Harrison Ford!
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Will Harrison borrow Ricardo Montalban's prosthetic muscle-chest from "Wrath of Khan?"
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...scourging you again this summer at the pillar of AWESOME!!
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What's old is new again. Bring back the classic blockbuster!
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I am giddy as a little schoolgirl. Even the worst Indy flick (Temple of Doom, imho) is better than 90 percent of the shite thats out there. Color me there with bells on May 22nd.
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...in that lit-up 'window' with the dangling roots, yousa can clearly see-ins Jar Jar Binks-a!
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Oh yeah, this poster is great. And now, only waiting May 22. :)
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oh yeah and i can see Venom. mehhhhh...........
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too grumpy!!!!!!!!!!!
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So we've got the Aztec and alien influence in the poster, so you know what that means...Shia gets anal probed!!!
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most talkbacks about Indy go into a "nuculear" talkback meltdown, with the "Indiana Jones and the..."
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This rules. Big time.
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It was sort of sad to see an older guy trying to relive his glory years when he's past his prime. I can't imagine how depressing it will be if Paul Ruebens ever gets his new Pee Wee Herman movie made.
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Hiiilllarrious (on the Shia betrayal thing).
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Dark Knight, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Rambo, Indiana Jones...hmmmph. I guess I won't kill myself just yet.
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its going to look weird hanging on my wall after that, but what can you do...
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TOO MUCH!!!!!!! damn i need a wacom tablet
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Indy looks a little finky up close, but I'm relieved to NOT see a floating Shia head in this... Unless that's HIS skull up there on the forehead of the big skull.
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Yea but Paul Ruebens still looks damn good for being in his mid '50s. A little powder dusting and I think he could pull it off. By the way, catch him in The Tripper, he's hilarious ( Mmmhhmm...Fuck You...Mmmmhhmm..Fuck You...MmmmHHmm...Fuck You..).
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and that's supposed to mean that it's going to suck? not be good? temple of doom may not be the best of the original three, but i can tell you right now, it still beats the hell out of any of the action adventure drivel they're putting out now - here's to hoping it definitely smells of temple of doom.
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That's all. I just hope it doesn't suck. It could, it may, but I can't entertain that possibility. I just hope it's good.
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Can they really hold out until February?
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I saw that without any definitive proof from anyone. And possibly b/c I don't feel aliens should play a big role in Indy.
I see the odd looking skull in this poster and I know all the rumors about how aliens "may" be involved in the various plots which may have converged into the final script, but I just can't see aliens being a "god-like" presence in the Indyverse. That said, this film IS courtesy of the guys who brought us ET, Close Encounters, and those little Star Wars films, so..... -
A perfect poster and no annoying side-kick pictured!
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They gotta, just GOTTA have a trailer ready for Super Bowl.
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and his Man-bag. It makes me feel more bad ass when I wear mine.
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Dec 10, 2007 12:04:53 PM CST
I still haven't quite appreciated that we have a new Indy film c
by odysseus
Please, please, please let it be good.
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after seeing this poster.
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It still seems like this isn't happening. It is hard to believe that a new Indiana Jones film is going to be in theatres soon. The poster is cool, but I just hope that the film doesn't get too out there witht the plot.
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Totally agree. The only other problem with DH4 was producers being pussies and trying to get more ticket sales by taming it down. Not thinking enough older people would see it. Die Hard was the best movie of the summer next to Sunshine.
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Temple of Doom- India/Hindu
Raiders of the Lost Ark- Egyptian/Hebrew
Last Crusade- Middle East/Christian
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull- Central America/Mayan
What I'm trying to say is that it fits with the rest of the series. Indy and Co are going to an entirely different locale and dealing with an entirely new religion/culture.
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it even looks like an alien between the skulls eyes. I love it.
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Dec 10, 2007 12:31:45 PM CST
Maybe it'll be like "Temple" but without the annoying sidekick
by atari
oh, wait...
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really? it looks so similar to previous art and to the countless things that have shown up on games, books, and so on that it doesn't really do much for me. indy looks older, i'll give them that.
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wait, that was last year...
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Thank god he's back, i havent seen him do anything since the ABOMIDABLE DVD art.
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Fucking fantastic; love it.
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ALL of the teaser posters were this way. Single shot of Indy and that's it. Everyone else will come in on the last, official poster.
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something about his face, it looks bloated and vacuous.
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Maybe you could use your man effluence to stick the poster to the wall. Look, ma--no tape!
And for the record, I think I was the first to point out the face on the bridge of the skull nose. But NO ONE believed me (sniff, sob)! Probably cuz every time a new poster is shown here, people cry wolf and say they can see Venom and shit.
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I was waiting to see some official art from him for this movie, and I'm not disappointed. Truly kick ass poster art.
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Right you are, except on the final poster for this movie, instead of illustrations of the busts of Ford's costars, this will feature the devices of assisted living (e.g. wheelchair, oxygen mask, a box of Quaker Oats, an enema kit, a bran muffin, a can of prunes, etc.) I hope the opening exploit of this film kicks the asses of all the others (Raiders still being the best).
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Dec 10, 2007 12:45:36 PM CST
it kicks ass... and the aliens won't be showing up in their UFO
by hamster_factor
I could be totally wrong but I don't think the whole "aliens" thing is going to be handled in a literal fashion. All of the Indy movies have dealt with themes or religion, faith, magic and other-worldliness. The previous movies dealt with artifacts related to god and religion, and I don't think this will be any different - only this time it will have a "chariots of the gods" sort of vibe going. just because "god" was part of the previous stories doesn't mean he ever showed up in person. likewise, if the "aliens" are treated as the higher power here - tied in with Mayan gods or some such, I don't see them actually showing up on screen.
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on the upper right side. can't wait till may 22 - been looking forward to another indy since...wow, a really freakin long time now. People conceived in the back row of the theater during "last crusade" are almost old enough to vote. Now i feel old again.
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They hang off m'lady's chest
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well maybe......poster is just "ok"...a bit too simple....too videogame art. i hope thats just a teaser poster and a proper one come out.
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How is this badass???
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What about a Journeyman Talkback?
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Spielberg only put up with her because she gave great skull.(Sorry...I couldn't resist.)Oh, and the poster looks frakkin' great. IMHO, Struzan's work seems to shine best with this series.
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google the numbers on the crate on the Indy site. VERY interesting. I think there's some viral marketing on the way!
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Dec 10, 2007 1:07:30 PM CST
disfigurehead: It's the first Indiana Jones poster in over two d
by slone13
You tell me how it's NOT badass. And then I'll just call you a lying, whiner anyway.
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earlier when they stated that it didn't look quite like Harrison Ford. Look closely and there's a bit of a sharp-edged Ralph Fiennes look about him..eh?
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Can't Hollywood writers come up with any decent *new* characters these days? Rocky Balboa, John Rambo, and now this? What will they do when Stalone and Ford pass on? Fold up shop and go out of business?
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What a great poster! It invokes the classic Indie movies of yesterday and doesn't feature Shia! Class!
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Perfectly Roswellian. And not that far from "Encounter...". Which would (SPOILER) go well with that "Encounter" Alien cameo.
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I bet the Indy trailer comes attached to Cloverfield. Both are Paramount properties.
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It difference is it looks like Harrison Ford at the age of 65. If the teaser poster is acknowledging his age, imagine how he'll look on screen. Some people must be desperate for entertainment to be salivating over action movies starring senior citizens.
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National Treasure will crumble before the might of Indie!
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It's Milwaukee 1957 and the intrepid Dr. Jones is searching the deep, dark labyrinth below Cunningham's Hardware for the long lost scion of a fabled family who disappeared under mysterious circumstances never to be spoken of again.
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Awesome! Can't wait to see the movie!
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... you can see Short Round sucking Indy's cock.
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Dec 10, 2007 1:28:54 PM CST
Fuck it..I just KNEW Ford would get Calista Flockhart in here so
by conspiracy
And is that a glint I see coming off Indys ear?
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It's not a shitty sellout sequel, it's true to the previous films, no fucking 3D stylized mordernized shit, just straight up old school Indy.
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Eighties all the way. For once the eighties ain't totally big-haired, plastic, and cheesy.
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This will be a great film! I love that it's after Iron Man, but before TDK. I want Indy to be number 1, but that's probably how the films will end up, IMO. 1. Dark Knight2. Indy IV 3. Iron Man/Prince Caspian (not sure which yet, but one will be 3 and the other will be 4. 5. Incredible Hulk. (can't wait to start seeing some stuff on that.)
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You know Martin Caiden's book are apocryphal. Max McCoy's books are about Indy (and they're good), Rob McGregor's books are about Indy (and they're average), but Martin Caiden's books are about flight manuals.
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Because it's Indiana fucking Jones until proven otherwise.
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Thank God it's not a photoshopped piece of shit like every other movie poster these days.
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it really bugs me that there's no nose hole in the skull...even if there is another little skull hidden above where the nose should be....the whole thing is unproportional. i know this artist knows anatomy. even south american artists were more stylized than this thing. the eyes are huge and misshapen, and the teeth are realistic, but the realism is lost by not having a nose.
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I can probably even tolerate Shia da Boof, but not nazi psychos like Erich von Daenikens and their insane feverish babble... Hopefully Spielberg knows better than that, hopefully he realizes that putting any "ancient astronauts" and "alien" idiocies in an Indiana Jones movie would not only fit Indy about as well as casting John Holmes as Indy, but would also promote a psychotic nazi fraud's scam...
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I like the poster...simple and elegant.
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"WELCOME TO URF!!"
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Compare to the previous film posters. Still looks good though, but looks more like a novel cover to be honest.
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more in your face.
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Let's see how many reviews they post next year as compared to how many reviews we got for the shitty Compass movie.
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kinda mediocre. but still only the first one.
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it's bad composition...kindai bet in a few weeks a new version comes out with shia standin' beside his daddy in that overwhelming negative space behind indy...below the skill, i mean, there's nothin' THERE....
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are backlight and have a light outline around them.sarcasm...i mean,the man has talent, but he needs to branch out a bit.
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fuck no editing.
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I'm looking for it. Any help? Thanks. If you think I don't deserve it, think about that: I opened this TB without uttering the dreaded F-joke. I'm worthy of your help.
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Dec 10, 2007 1:59:04 PM CST
for an advanced race, that alien has some FUCKED UP TEETH.
by zom-bot.com
i mean, couldn't they laser-shave that huge peanut tooth on the right down to match the left one a bit?
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guest starring: Optimus Prime and Sgt. Slaughter as Sgt. Slaughter
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Is it possible that in fact every Indy film has a slightly different font? I think so. But this is really...flashy...I think... Like it would belong to that Indy animation series rumored ages ago...
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I can hardly wait.
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.....I can't believe no one has asked that yet. A 65 year old Indy is going to be almost as painful to watch as a fifty-something year old Terminator, or a fifty-something year old John McLane, or a sixty-something year old Rocky or Rambo..........oh wait, bad examples. Hey Clint, I've got a Dirty Harry reunion/sequel/prequel/origin-story/remake script here that has Gold written all over it. Box Office Gold.
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Drew Struzan .. and it still looks like something generated by a computer. This is a terrible image, and I for one hope subsequent artwork is much more imaginative and more inspiring.
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http://www.abstractfonts.com/font/4464
And the main one's called simply "Adventure". And I'm a little miffed to see that they changed it - those weird cuts in their sides are completely unnecessary. Thankfully the rest of the poster is perfect.
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...there's no way in hell, Dark Night outgrosses Iron Man. That's a fact! Or even Prince Caspian for that matter. Hell, Batman Begins couldn't even outgross the first Narnia film. Actually, just flip your list upside down, and you'll have it just about right.
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I agree, Martin Caiden's books are like text books. I don't see why they let him write TWO! One wasn't even flight book!
Did anyone else read the novels or is it just us.
Also IMPORTANT. the USA Today article said to look for clues oin the poster. Also, google that number in my previous post!
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and the F-joke is this weird AICN fetish. When someone is actually the number one poster on a TB... You know, the word starts with a F... I can't resolve myself to spoil this TB by spelling it. A TB without someone boasting about being "FIRST!!!" is so fucking rar... AWWW HELL NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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I've been noticing chud breaks stuff that I care about a lot quicker than AICN does.
watchmen updates and this story are just 2 recent examples.
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Think of the possibilities....
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but Indy IV will be huge. HUGE. Think Diora Baird huge (or Johnny Wadd if you're into it). No way Iron Man will come out on top.
My guess:
Narnia - $300 millions. Easily.
Indy IV - $250-300 millions
The Dark Knight - $200-250 millions
Iron Man - $150-200 millions if Paramount is damn lucky.
Speed Racer - $ame as Iron Man.
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I'll be suprised if Iron Man will hit $200mil US while TDK will make about $200-250mil us and INDY4 will make $250-300+mil US!.
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Thats bullshit! Are you afraid of the truth. Its an Alien Skull the creators of mankind!
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We think alike Spencer!.
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Until we know what these films are rated, is it really possible to speculate on how successful they'll be? Looking at the titles, I assume none will be R, although it would be cool to see an R Batman flick. But movies like Bats and Narnia might lose some of the younger kiddies if they're PG-13...yes? No?
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Based on what Phantom Menace did when it opened up in 1999, first movie in SW series since early 80s. Here we have first movie (hopefully last) since early 90s. There are so many people who will want to see this film (including myself at midnight wearing my fedora). It's crazy
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...will appreciate the Struzan shout-out in the beginning.
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I'm sitting here, looking at the Raiders of the Lost Ark poster that adorns the wall of my room, and hardly believing that we're a few months away from a new Indiana Jones movie. It's interesting that, aside from the '50s setting, the filmmakers seem determined to fit this seemlessly into the mythology, without acknowledging that this film is the equivalent of a 4th child conceived accidently, with 3 older siblings 2-3 years apart that were part of the parents' actual family plan. Nevertheless, like that accidental child, this too will be loved. On one hand I was hoping that the first poster would be more of an "INDY'S BACK!" poster, but there's something to be said for going the more traditional route, especially to address the concerns that this movie is just going to be a nostalgia act instead of a worthy addition to the series. As an Indy fanboy I'm obliged to like it, but still, this should get the non-geek masses excited.
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Losers... I'll try to see it the weekend before at a Lucas event, just as I saw Revenge of the Sith the Sunday before it came out.
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Marion's poster is at my house. Struzan brought his original over for my critique, but sadly I accidentally deposited manspunk on it while admiring the curves and color. I'm hoping he can clean it up. Who knows? Maybe the trace stains will create extra "faces" and "skulls" in the illustration. I'll post an image here when he's finished. Till then, I must excuse myself to make another Ravenwood Deposit.
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The film will open with? You know, you see the Paramount logo, then it dissolves into a mountain. Stevie loves that shit! He even had Drefuss make a mashed potato mountain in "Encounters."
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indeed...
And leobloom, I'm not saying Narnia will swat it like a fly, I see them both around the $300 millions mark (which the first Narnia almost crossed domestically if memory serves) BUT considering that Indy is a 20 years old franchise, and the kids will most likely flock into Narnia theaters, it is more likely to cross the line than Indy IMO. I'm no Media By Numbers analyst, but it's more logical that way. I mean, Superman Returns crossed the $200 millions mark by ONE ticket. Mine. And I'm not proud of it. -
One thing to bear in mind, and hope for, is that after WW2, alot of Nazis fled to South America. Since this will be taking place in South America for a portion of it, it would be a perfect time to introduce some Nazi Cult of the Skull or w/e. They will smackdown the Commies, then Indy will smackdown the Nazis. The alien city explodes somehow (What Indy movie isn't complete without some invaluable and unique artifact getting destroyed or lost?) and Indy goes back to crappy Connecticut to continue his teaching.
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That's pretty goddamn fantastic. Looks like there are three more posters coming, according to the main Indy site. Haaaay...Christ, I hope this movie rules. I mean, even if the story's pure ass, there's still Harrison Ford in the outfit and Johnny Williams with new Indy music...it'll still be watchable for most of you hollowed out impossible to please bastards.
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The poster is not blowing up my skirt, gentlemen. I mean, it looks like a bad Photoshop job. The skull looks wrong (unless its supposed to look alien-ish) and Ford looks like he did 20 years ago with just a few more wrinkles. And, I wanted to see more of the cast like the Last Crusade poster. Let's hope this is just a teaser...
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I see three alien skulls on the bridge of the nose. One facing 'us', and the other two facing left and right.
There is also a decidedly more 'human skull' to the right of the whip. It seems to wearing some kind of head gear armor???
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or listened to the soundtrack, but browsing the Indy site, with the John Williams' theme on the background... it gave me chills. Like the first Phantom Menace trailer. Hopefully it'll be better. Fingers crossed!
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Raiders opening is probably my favorite part of the whole trilogy, especially that Amazon locale i thought was pure Pulp adventure and always wished they could go back to that, and now with this being set in South America it looks to be true! HOoray!
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of course aliens are gonna be part of this flick! Look into the history of the real crystal skulls that have been found around the world.
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there's the classic 5 minute mini-adventure at the beginning...right after getting his ear pierced at a thai ladyboy cathouse, our hero has to counter a balanced booby trap to get a gold idol.in a brilliant homage to the scene in raiders, indy removes his adult diaper and squeezes out the proper amount of wet crap to match the weight of the precious treasure....
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I'm just looking at the poster on the Indy site, with the music playing in the background and i just shot my bolt !
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May 22 is my birthday. My BIRTHDAY, for God's sake. This is going to be the best birthday ever.
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the failure of the Golden Compass is (according to some analysts) to blame in part on the Catholic boycott. The same fucking lobbyists who made Narnia a success. I don't know if it can best the original's box office (few sequels can) but it's still a major player and even if I'm gonna pass on it and see Indy IV instead, I'm pretty sure kids won't give a damn about a 65 year old archeologist. Their loss.
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im a big drew struzan fan, but this is just the teaser, im betting. struzan loves putting tons of characters on his posters, and here all we get is indy.
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Maybe a cameo by Chevy Chase!
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my fave is the temple of Doom one..the one with him standing on a temple with vines and stuff...apocalypse now style...totally rad.
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I bitch and moan about sequels and remakes but honestly: TDK, Indy IV, Bond 22... Only a Lethal Weapon is missing. But shhhh!!! they could greenlight it without script and half-bake it for a June release. Hell, maybe Cloverfield is Lethal Weapon 5, who knows?
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Dec 10, 2007 3:37:46 PM CST
So after this is in the can, how about Star Wars: New Republic?
by pipple
What about it, Harrison? Hamill? Carrie? Billy Dee? I'll star as a new jedi apprentice and we can do it old school. No stupid cartoon cgi.
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He was the bomb in Transformers!
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Suck it, haters, suck it hard.
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He's had enough fanboy raping sessions for one life...let SW die with what shred of dignity it has left.
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my jizz now comes out looking like a candy cane.
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Got a flying nun/elf hat from a christmas story vibe to the oter robe, and theres a tunic jedi like robe under this http://tinyurl.com/3yq5rf
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It's one thing to have one movie in a trilogy be a stinker, but to have all three overall suck and be pointless wastes is unprecedented... I don't even know what to call it. star wars is in severe need of a redemption like darth vader's.
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a documentary on Drew Struzan. WOuld love to get some insight into how the man works. Great first name too.
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seems rather tight on the words, Indiana Jones, kinda sloppy looking, but nice job of making Harrison Ford look a hell of a lot younger, it does make one nostalgic for the 80s, i go on with trepidation
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did take me out of ROTS for a bit. But I'm sure Lucas will fix it in the Extra Special "No Noooooo!" Edition in a few years.
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Next time wear gloves, Shia.
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Awesome image.
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(what a looza!) And the crystal skull story line that runs through a few of them was excellent. Doubt if this will fit in to that, but it would be a nice touch.
The books are decent for the most part (of course this is coming from a HUGE fan of the character and films). Genesis Deluge was quite good as were the Max McCoy novels. Caiden kinda blew, though White Witch wasn't as bad as Sky Pirates.
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Are we thinking Cloverfield or Super Bowl?
They said February, of course they also said November or December.
Is it true the critters this time out will be ...possible spoiler.....
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Sharks? Good choice I think.
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Dec 10, 2007 4:21:12 PM CST
Maybe instead of the "NOOOoooo...", maybe they can replace it
by skinjob69
with mechanically processed puking noises. At least that would be an improvement.
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Only reason I ask, is that isn't this supposed to take place partly in South America? I would see crocs working, but where do the sharks come in? Or how about pirhannas. You know what would freak me out? Those fuckin' rabid monkeys, a whole team of them gnashing and gnawing their teeth, screeching and clawing, those little bastards seem viscious. That's just me though.
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damn you Indiana Jones!!!
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I'd agree but it's supposed to be the big finale and it fails to be much more than a cameo fest. The only reason it's better to some is in comparison to the first two poor showings. Watching Empire strikes back again last night really put things in perspective for me regarding how unbelievable well made the first few films were...
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As I said in another TB, I think BNAT 9 was a little underwhelming.
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The late 1950's era of "Project Blue Book", the advances in technology, the birth of the counter-culture - it's a perfect backdrop for indy's last adventure. Having him back for a tired retread, going through the same old motions would be pointless. It would be better to just let sleeping dogs lie. Spielberg & Lucas must have a doozy of a story for this thing. If done right, "Skull" could put a nice finishing touch on the entire series. And just because there's an extraterrestial angle doesn't mean Indy will pull a Richard Dreyfus and fly off into the stars.
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Just picked it up somewhere - who knows if its true, but they do have sharks in SA so.... Crocs would be cool though, but something about that seems like it would be awkward on screen to have a thousand crocs in one area. Sure they can pull it off if need be.
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Slow, with that familiar Jones march? Or with something more visceral, with more of a punch? Whatever they do, I really hope they don't do one of those 30 clips that has a ton of talking, and then like 5 images flashed across the screen at lightning pace. The movie is coming out in May, December is perfectly acceptable to start showing a decent length trailer. I realize that Spielberg has been filming this thing at a lightning pace already, but let's go here!
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Awesome art but he's flattering Ford way too much. He doesn't look a day older than Raiders here.
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Dec 10, 2007 4:39:37 PM CST
Okay, but Sharks just don't fit with the other critters
by mel gibsteinberg
First, they seem so limited to water. Secondly, just like you said with the crocs, can you imagine a bunch of them teeming together? Don't know how that would work on film. Third, and this is just a nitpick, the scares with the other critters was that they were the type of things that grouped up together, got all over you, and just made your skin crawl. Sharks are f'ing scary, but I don't know about skin crawling. However, I could see them putting a shark in, and having Williams throw in a little Jaws nod, which admittedly sounds cheesey, but done right could be funny. Remember the little nod to Raiders in Last Crusade, it was all of 5 seconds, and Williams perfectly underscored it with a little hit from the Raiders subtle theme.
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start with a black screen. Slow piece of familiar music comes in. Then serious dialog referencing Indy or the skulls.
Then music swells. We see Indy step through an orangey haze looking pissed off.
Montage of action with the Raiders march gearing up until..
Dun dun dun duuunnnn!!
Marion, Mutt, Abner?, Mac.
End on mysterious shot.
Cut to black.
May 22, 2008.
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Yeah point taken. Which is why I can see bats filling the role nicely. They're skin crawlingly gross enough to get a good reaction.
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For a givin' a brotha some props.
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Yeah Well of Souls or the theme from LC would be nice with a black screen and voice over referencing the Skulls or Indy. Then the music swells, montage, ...you know the rest.
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Well, The Beard had his count with sharks, but I'd rather see a quick nod to Jaws rather than boring, slow alligators. The monkey connection is interesting though. Like this scary scene in The Omen. Great idea.
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Monkeys would be nuts. I put money on bats though.
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Piranha aren't a bad idea.
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My favourite was THE TEMPLE OF DOOM although RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK was pretty damned good too. THE LAST CRUSADE wasn't as good as the other two but I do like the way it shows where Indie got his trademarks from. I wonder what will open this one? Ooooh... I'm all aquiver!
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and are awaiting the AICN poll to know what kind of weird shit they'll have to CGI? That would be sweet. Use your leverage Harry!
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I saw it. Cheers mate! And yup, I remembered about Journeyman. I'll be waking myself up later (it's 11pm over here) to start downloading it. That's dedication. And maybe a bit sad. Ah well.
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......heard the opening has to do with a very familiar arKtifact.
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Is that confirmed?
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It seems not that long ago rumors of a new Indy film started making the rounds (again). I'm trying to keep my expectations to a minimum (If nothing else, Lucas has taught me that) but damn did that poster put a goofy smile on my face. Saddly I'm old enough to remember standing in line opening night for the three previous films, but this time I have kids who can keep me company.
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RAIDERS OF THE LOST AARP IS COMING
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I wish I did, lucky b*stard (no offense)! I never watched an Indy in theaters, and thought I never would. You can't possibly imagine what it means to me. My girlfriend is not really into this kind of movies, but I just cannot wait to go watch it with her. Kids will wait.
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glad to see the poster is keeping in line with the other films. Ever since the studios all started using photoshopped montages instead of having an illustrator paint the poster, movie posters just haven't looked as good.
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I was younger, but I thought it was the BEST Indy at the time. Remember coming to school and every guy my age was talking about it. I think because there were jokes aplenty in that flick that we just loved discussing it so much. Years later I came to my senses and recognized Ark as the true genius film, with Crusade second and Doom trailing up behind. Though to this day I even have a soft spot for Doom, because of what they were trying to do, to me Doom feels like the 30's Serials more than any of the others. Raiders was too good and was played too seriously to be much like a real 30's serial, and Crusade was a bit too ironic and self-referential. But still an amazing trilogy, and one that I can not wait to visit again!
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I do hope his age is talked about. Ford is 65. If he is pulling off incredible stunts that someone half his age couldn't it will take me right out of the film.
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Dec 10, 2007 5:51:58 PM CST
AHH! Face Melters! -- Watching RAIDERS In The Theatre As A Wee
by laserpants
I still remember LOSING MY MIND when, at the end of Raiders, all the Nazis faces melted. I was probably about 9 years old at the time, and had never seen anything like it. Oh, and of course, I totally loved the movie. I played Indy Jones in the Pennypack Park for months afterward... Ah, to be young again...
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This movie has made no money. Along with EVERY OTHER ANTI-IRAQ MOVIE has failed miserably. Why does that make me so happy? Sure it doesn't say anything about the art of the films (or lack of it). It does tickle me (code)pink that every lib out there was anticipating a big autumn of anti-war movies ruling at the B.O. Instead? They've all failed miserably! How sweet. I haven't commented in five years, but this final lefty anti-war failure seemed to practically drag me back to AICN for a victory lap.
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I love the opening of Temple of Doom. The production number is great and the bit with the diamond is awesome too.
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How retro.
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And what the hell are you talking about? No one cares about your crazy politics, we are talking Indy here. Go back and masturbate to Sean Hannity.
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This IS better than the Star Wars stuff he did, but not enough to make me thnk differently than I do. The endless orgasms over his work confuse me, but I can't see the difference between his stuff and the work of some particularly mass-market paperback cover. I'm sure he'd do a bang up job depicting Fabio atop a flowing-tailed steed, but.....so what?
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Don't blow your wad yet Georgie.
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... http://tinyurl.com/367q6t
not sure if it was already reported here, but the prince caspian trailer is up.
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"The theory is they are shaped by higher powers or alien powers or came from another world, or an ancient Mayan civilization had the powers," Marshall tells USA Today.
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but seriously, poster looks great and nothing says "holy shit there's a new Indiana Jones movie coming out and it's gonna be awesome" like a new Indiana Jones movie.
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Wow, so cool.
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I was 11 when Jurassic Park came out. I have been brainwashed by my folks and the mass media to:
1/ hate the goddamn movie, too expensive and hyped to be honest and
2/ Buy the tie-in video game/ happy meal/ bedsheets.
Then the movie opens. First time of my life I attend the first showing of a movie. It was great, but every time I catch an Indy flick on TV I can't help but think "I would've killed to discover THIS at eleven, without the marketing bullshit, the internet, and the cynical, suspicious adults spoiling my fun". Lucky you.
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this will be about as good as a Star Wars prequel...just another money grab...and suckers will fall for it.
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Still, not bad.
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Pic of Kirk is gone, actually not just the pic, but the whole story, what the hell?!?
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Dec 10, 2007 6:18:40 PM CST
I see an ALIEN FACE above the nose, between the eyes of the skul
by iamjack'suserid
Awesome poster indeedy!
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I totally agree, at 45. The magic is gone. But guess what... There's a solution. Read a few film magazines and leave it at that. Fuck AICN and all those other websites with spoilers and self-congratulatory talkbacks. And before you know it movies will be fun again.
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I'm really looking forward to this. Could it be Lucas and Spielburg's return to par? I hope so.
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Can't wait.
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Where is Biff Tannen? HE should be Indy's sidekick.
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I don't dislike the CGI (when handled correctly it can enhance already good visuals/stunts, and occasionally a visionary like Cameron takes the concept further) but it really became a money shot generator, the worst thing the CGI could've became in the first place.
I also love to see practical stuff, and I don't understand why they use the CGI to embiggen the same old stunts, while Asian filmmakers just got them right with ten times less money. This arms race is just stupid and counter-productive. Stunts nowadays are REALLY innovative when they take advantage of the framing and the topography (some factors the old school films like Indy or 80's Bond weren't really exploring, focusing on rhythm) and the Parkour guys really hit the nail with that. Too bad they're pigeonholed by the industry as lame baddies as in Die Hard 4. For shame... -
it's the old 'venom-in-the-eye; thing all over again. if you look close, you can see labeef halfway up speilbergs ass
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When it first came out, and then again as a re-release (back when they used to do more of that). Front row, huge screen . . . it was an awesome experience. Of course, being 12 at the time probably helped with the awesomeness of it.Yeah, all the anti-war movies have flopped. Why? No Indiana Jones!
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the film magazines are full of arrogant, self-referential wannabe critics, applying the same thought pattern to every movies, being comics flicks or urban dramas; comedies or period pieces. We're literraly taken hostages by the media. I read by mistake a few spoilers here and there unfortunately, but movie sites are still better than Premiere or Entertainment Weekly in my opinion. I just try not to be too cynical about them and even if I complained a few posts ago about it, I can still feel the magic sometimes. Lesser known or foreign flicks you stumble into by chance, or even good surprises like Rocky Balboa. It ain't all lost mate!
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As someone with a Raiders of the Lost Ark poster hanging behind me as I type this, I was obliged to like whatever the first official poster art was, and this'll do nicely. The good news is that this should get the non-geek masses excited as well. Holy shit, we're getting a new Indiana Jones movie in a few months. I Am Legend on Friday, Indy 4 in May, a new Batman franchise that's looking fantastic...it's amazing how all the fanboy projects that were mired in development hell in the mid-late '90s seem to be coming together at the same time.
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So he'll shut the fuck up and stop typing all at the same time.
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You looked into my eyes! And now your destiny lies along the path of...DOOM! Ya know, when I first started reading about this, I couldn't help but snigger at the idea--sometimes, though, all you need is a kickass poster to getcha believin' again. And however old Ford is now, would I fuck with him? HELL no! Go Indy!
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starting with a musical, then it's bogie meets bond, a chase thru shanghai into an airplane down to india!!
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hehe
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he said the first rule of Fight Club is that you're an asshole. Then he said you should stop trying to suck LaserPants' cock so much. He's just not interested.
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All you dumbasses complain about "Photoshop" - nowadays posters like this are painted on Photoshop, utilizing a Wacom tablet or similar device. Granted, this gentleman might have used a physical medium, but once digitized none of you would know the difference.
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Oh christ, my bad, I thought that was directed at me. Truly sorry. Whoops.
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Lucas. OUt of form.
Ford. Out of form.
Spielberg. Outside of Munich. Out of form.
LeBeouf. Annoying.
It's not 1982. The previous three are the greats of hollywood, yet are out of form.
I do like the previous three movies though.
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It dawned an me that my oldest son will be the exact same age when this movie opens that I was when Raiders did. That can't be coincendence.
Xiphos - I know what you mean about the effect sites like this very one have had on the way we go to movies. When I saw the original Star Wars trilogy or the Indiana Jones movies I knew nothing other then what the trailers showed me. Sometimes not even that, since we only had trailers at the theatre. I had to see Raiders because it had Han Solo in it and he had a whip. Didn't need to know anything more. I went to see Blade Runner because it had Indiana Jones in it, but it was a science fiction movie (so maybe it had Han Solo?? Who knows how a young mind works). Much as I'm a junkie for movie info and trailers and behind the scenes and all that, I'm drawing a line for this one. I'm going to try my best to see Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls the same way I saw the other three. Knowing precious little other then that its an Indiana Jones film and what the trailers show me.
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It looks like a cheesy cover from a novelization spin0ff. "Like the Further Adentures Of...", or some such shit.
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those weren't my words, I just copied and pasted a hilarious Nonsequitor from some moron(Call7000) over in the WATER HORSE talkback. I just thought it'd be really funny to see people's responses.
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Dec 10, 2007 7:33:09 PM CST
I meant to keep close tabs on the TB but lost track of time
by george newman
whoopsie
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watched RAIDERS every other day that I was growing up though
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...btw, why is everyone so anti shia? hes a really good actor i think, he held up transformers on his back, not an easy task to do (i enjoyed the hell out of that movie, but you know what i mean). as for this poster, its a little bland to be honest, i have no idea what this movie is about but the poster doesnt do anything for me. but then again it is cool to see indy on a movie poster again!
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cost about the same...
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...he said he wanted his lame attempts at humor and non-existent wit back.
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Temple for the Crystal Skull at Tokyo Disneyland's "DisneySea"
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sure it has already been said.
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OK dammit, Harrison and Bruce have been so bad in recent movies... Both taking themselves WAY too seriously.. With their whispery, uber serious characters with "issues." Now, Bruce had a chance to take it all back in the new Die Hard film and he fucking blew it. Deep voice, whispery, who-is-me attitude... I hope so much, that Harrison just fucking relaxes in this movie and has some fun.... Please oh please.. We don't just want another fucking Indy movie, we want Indiana "Junior" Jones back again... Wry smile, fun loving, passionate about artifacts and a mans man... Please oh please be good.....
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Can someone please put the posters drawn by Drew Struzan of all the 4 Indy films on a page and send me the link. I would truly appreciate that. This movie will make more money than Narnia. It will be third for the whole year, with Batman and Iron Man one and two. After that Narnia, Bond, and Hulk. Peace and thanks...
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Annoying not funny.I'm worried he will wreck Indy 4. They may have well cast Jake Lloyd.
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Just wondering where the Star Trek PineKirk story went . . .
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...that there's a new Indiana Jones movie coming out? I'm surprised that rumors of this haven't leaked before now.
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Not to be a jerk or anything, but I'm pretty sure it is just a coincidence. There are 6.5 billion of us who *aren't* you or your child, after all.
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He's just some disney kid. What's he done to deserve to stand alongside legends in film I don't know... maybe he sucked a lot of cock. But whatever he better not fuck this movie up for me. Who the hell am I kidding he's the new shortround but not as awesome.
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National treasure 2's going to own this movie. Get the fuck out of here. This is an event film for a generation of proper movie fans and to hell with today's disposable nicolas cage garbage.
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People are really getting worked up over this. Pipple, Autistic License may be a jerk, but I think there's a bit of truth in what he says. It's just a movie. It may be a pretty good movie, but a lot of what makes the original Indiana Jones movies so fun was being a kid while watching them. Maybe this will deliver, but maybe it won't. My hunch is that lightning doesn't strike twice. Especially if you are hoping (or, as some people here are doing) *planning* on it happening.
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That would be the perfect poster for it.
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that Indy's face looks like a photo pasted on a Drew Struzan poster?
And what's with the strange choice of expression anyway?
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Dec 10, 2007 10:17:47 PM CST
BRUCE WILLIS AS OLDER SUPERMAN / KEVIN COSTNER AS BATMAN
by bringingsexyback
Just throwing it out there. You know that would be the perfect Dark Knight movie.
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Why in the hell did they change the lettering for "INDIANA JONES"? It looks kind of "kiddy" all squashed together like that, and I hate that they changed the shape of a couple of the letters. And why is there semi-transparent stone covering the entire bottom third of the poster? It makes everything look even flatter and less dimensional. Indy looks alright except for the fact that he looks cut and pasted on to the backround. What is with the outline Drew? He literally doesn't look like part of his own poster. Half of the poster looks like the same old photochop/cgi crap that we have seen on EVERY poster for the last 20 years, and the other half looks like some interesting Drew Struzan illustration. I hope the release poster is better than this. The INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE teaser poster makes this poster look like shit.
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they, boys mostly, need to see what a REAL movie is like instead of all these cgi filled spider-man movies. See, the absolute mess cinema is in now has shown all of us how lucky we were to have been able to witness (in my case witness late) the excellence that was going on decades before our fathers filled our mothers with baby juice. So I'm absolutely floored in shit that someone would dare hold today's stupid mtv shit above something like this. What is wrong with you?
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only wish he made 'em 10 years back and didn't bother with that other stuff.
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Ummm, what happened to the Star Trek talkback?
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depicted on film. We've been given too much emo bullshit in movies lately. We need Indy to show young men how to be men who take no shit from anyone again. That's what I'm talking about bitch.
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With a painting, they could have at least taken creative license to make his face look better. He looks like a senior citizen who has had plastic surgery, and his mouth is slightly opened in a manner as if to reveal no teeth, or the space created by his dentures.
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Hahaha...wait, that's the real title. That's the real title? Not a good sign
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That skull face is straight out of POWERSLAVE!!
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I don't wanna die I'm a god why can't I live on?
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Exactly, or like people who complain about how "bad" they were just because they were vapid and riddled with missed opportunity. It's Star Wars(R) dammit! You are supposed to like it just because of the name! Just like with Indiana Jones! Seriously, though, I am interested to see how this Crystal Skull thing pans out. I don't think that they can pull off making it good in the way the first three were good (everybody involved, including the audience, is radically different than it was twenty years ago), but if it was good in a new way, and yet still linked with the old, that would really be something. Something absent from the SW prequels, I might add.
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I wasn't trying for humour, mate. I simply noted that the design is not so hot and that the logo (not the art) looks drawn by a juvenile. To reiterate - rendering is v nice but the composition isn't great. Nowhere up to Struzan's usual level. Just venturing an opinion. Sorry I ruined your day.
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You aren't a true jaws fan Quint. Ya heard us?
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...this IS history. Do as you will.
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Dec 11, 2007 12:10:54 AM CST
http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/f20071210/index.htm
by wackybantha
Go here for a little INDY poster history. Very cool!!!
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What do you see in the Indy poster?
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....THE TAPES ARE SMALLER WHICH MAKES IT EASIER FOR AN OLD MAN LIKE INDY TO CARRY AROUND!!! SCREW VHS!!!
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i consider only Wars, Empire, Jedi canon. even if by Lucas. the prequels were created not by a struggling imaginitive and creative young filmmaker influenced by pulp and mythos, but by a corporation leader, lubricated and fed by piles of money, covering himself by stating it's "for kids". more machine than man now, twisted and evil.
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I did not say thre was anything in the eye. Nor did I ever say that there was a face of anyone specific in the image (Gobby, Venom, or otherwise.). However, when discussing the "face in the clouds" that I discovered, I toyed with the idea of "Wouldn't it be neat if that wasn't clouds, but smoke and it was the face of Mysterio?", but I admitted that was a farfetched notion. As far as the "alien" beween the eyes in the Indy poster... I'm not buying it. Yes something is there, but I'm willing to bet it's a decoration/helmet that is a part of the sctual skull itself, as opposed to it being a reflection or "hidden" image of an alien. I haven't been keeping up ith the leaks and rumors on this one (for good reason), but I don't think the series would go with E.T.'s. It just doesn't fit in with the series.
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This poster represents everything we got into archaeology/movies for in the first place
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the stupid kid in the leather jacket that ruins the movie
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"Scream" awards? The ceremony is a joke (awarding trophies to whomever shows up. Categories include "Best eye-gouging scene", "Best scream", et al. Some of the awarded films were not even released at the time, e.g. BEOWULF. It's just an opportunity to plug movies and show clips). Ford plugged the latest INDIANA JONES flick but looked bewildered and a just little stoned. One thing is certain: the latest sequel will make buckets of moola.
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One can clearly see indiana jones superimposed on the kingdom skull whatever background with lines and stuff.
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lone indy in the crystal skull temple, the aztek carvings, skulls.
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...TEMPLE OF DOOM.
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http://tinyurl.com/yoobuj
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When I read your subject line I was going "oh, come on, say 'Top. Men.'". And then you did.
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http://tinyurl.com/3yll6p
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He's still got it, and I have faith these movie makers won't self parody themselves winking all the way like Die Hard 4 did. New story and same flavour will make this freaking awed. All Bruce did in DH4 was magnify the story... die hard in a building, then an airport, then a city, then a country. It'd have to be the world taken hostage next. So yeah, Indy will rock hard.
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I want Jar Jar in this!
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you heard it here folks. Let the assasinations begin.
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you think the prequel trilogy is good? what? only a new hope and empire were good, actually godlike. ROTS was half a good movie. Jedi was poor with some classic scenes.
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Last Crusade
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Give it to me.
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Star Wars has 2 great films one average film 1 turd and 2 cinematic abortions. fucking TPM and AOTC *shakes fist angrily*I hope in the name of satan's codpiece that this isn't a repeat of TPM. Where the fuck is nodiggity to tell us that this isn't a true Indy film, because we don't get to see him do his packing?
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it was pure undiluted shite. *shakes fist angrily*
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Giant FUCKING ROBOTSOr maybe less small fucking robots. or maybe not.
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This is so true.
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Seriously, that's Donnie Darko's supernatural friend back there
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The poster rox. My peepee is hard now.
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Come on, you must be excited! That poster is great!
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umm... not talking about other articles that may or may not have had spoiler warnings... this one specifically had in red letters "UPDATED w/ STORY POINTS". Do you really need a spoiler warning? I think it's pretty fucking obvious that its going to be a spoiler if it s talking about story points.
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You're right, they should put the warning for retards who don't understand that the red letters that say "STORY POINTS" means spoilers.
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... that Sean Connery DOES cameo in this film after all.
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Um, the guy who first suggested that the little face on the skull's nose resembled the aliens from "Close Encounters" was ME ME ME, and I said so HERE yesterday. Silly!
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sounds like a Chevy Chase line. Or Homer Simpson. Something my inner geek is ashamed not to know.
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Hope they address that in the film.
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dude, accept the truth: you're going to get spoiled sooner or later, sooner if there's red on the title. the people who run this site are not infallible! now get over it and move on, stick with CHUD if it makes you so angry.
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at the end of raiders indy wants to know which rad archaeologists the guv-mint has working on his project and the fat dude says 'we've got top men working on the project,' and indy says 'who?' and the fat dude says 'top. men.' that was a classic post, skywalker.
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in Colorado or Wyoming or wherever the hell it was, and dodge government agents who gassed farm animals to make it look like there really is a contagion? AWESOME!!
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the fact is: I live in France and never watched an Indy flick other than the French-dubbed version. I know it's a shame, but some of these 80's flicks have great dubbings (Back to the future is EVEN BETTER in French - from a french audience perspective that is) and I love the THREE DIFFERENT VOICE ARTISTS (yeah, that's right) they chose - one for each movie. That still cracks me up.
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I just read it again and thought I had to specify: it was a genuine thank you Occula. But I still feel like I don't belong to the community anymore^^
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no prob spence, i myself am fairly moronic. but i also get teh sarcasm. now, my friend, you might be in france but that is still no excuse (it's an excuse for having better wine than everybody else, but not for this). get the trilogy on the d-v-d from amazon and watch that mofo, stat!
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Dec 11, 2007 10:22:10 AM CST
TOO RACIST!!! TOO RACIST!!! TOO RACIST!!! TOO RACIST!!!
by bringingsexyback
Are they inferring that the Mayans were incapable of creating their civilization without the help of fucking extraterrestrials?!??!?! I call on all Mayans to boycott this piece of shit movie.
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Dec 11, 2007 10:32:08 AM CST
No way I'm gonna buy the DVDs, Occula, and here's why:
by spencertrilby
the French audio track has been reduced to a mere Dolby Stereo! I'm all for watching subtitled movies, but at least they could've remixed the foreign tracks! Damn Paramount and their stingy business habits! I'm gonna wait for them to release the Blu-Ra... AWWW HELL NO!!!!!!
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That's pretty good!
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See this movie pure and enjoy it. You don't want to spoil it for yourself! Too much of a good thing is a bad thing! Think of the Mayans! They wouldn't want you to know!
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"God made the skulls. Or aliens made the skulls. or they are skulls OF aliens. or the mayans made the skulls." Yeah, that's um, pretty concrete. fuckbots.
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Maybe Spielberg will have a young Lacombe in the film.
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So they've replaced Nazi Agents with Soviet agents. Frank Marshall says "Indy has always had a love-hate relationship with every woman he's met". Yay, check off another point on the "Make it look like an Indy movie" checklist. Oh, and here's the final groanworthy checklist point, reported by the article. "Ray Winstone will play an unethical rival archaeologist". JUST LIKE IN RAIDERS! OH, IT'S SURE TO BE GOOD NOW! CAN'T HAVE AN GOOD INDY MOVIE WITHOUT AN UNETHICA RIVAL ARCHAEOLOGIST!.
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I just have to emphasize that. Oh, what a wonderful sign that this movie will be good!
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Marshall could hardly be more vague about the origins of the skulls in the movie. So, they're based on a real "artifact", we know that. I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch reading too much into this meaning "aliens" will seriously be the "mysterious power" behind this artifact. This is pure speculation, but it could be in the movie the ancient Mayans attribute some kind of mysterious power to "being from another world", but with all the Indy movies so far, the "mysterious power" behind all the artifacts has been related to "gods". I say that in quotes because you could believe "god" made the ark or Shiva or Kali were the power behind the stones and Molaram's magic, but you could also believe it was just a name the cultures had put on the origins of the power behind those artifacts. These skulls will likely (hopefully) be treated the same way.
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yeah, they looked back at things that worked well in Raiders and want to reuse some of those concepts. What's wrong with that? In principle, what's the problem? If you have something that works, why would you recreate the wheel? You can tell a unique story that still encompasses certain details.
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Smelly, but they still fit!
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one of the things that ties the Indy movies together? Why wouldn't you want to do that for a fourth Indy film? I understand the concern that this new film "could" be alot like Raiders, but is that even really a bad thing? Hell, it sounds like a great thing considering the state of blockbuster movies these days. They're obviously not "remaking" Raiders, so making another Indy in its stead can hardly be a bad thing.
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Ditto!
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Perhaps I missed it but was the issue of the whip ever resolved? At one point prior to production there was a rumor of a CGI whip and no use of a real one. Apparently, Harrison Ford balked at that point but I never heard the final word. CGI whip = spikey silvery blue firey nipples on Green Hornet as played by Seth "Gargling sand and marbles" Rogan.
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Aliens, mummies, old age, the wraith of God, magic stones, holy grails, crystal skulls etc etc... who the f@ck cares? I love how bent out of shape some people get. I equate it to jealousy and/or lack of sex (playing with yourself does not count).
None of you have seen the movie so saying it's great or sucks has no merit what-so-ever. These movies are created as serial fantasy like adventures. It's called escapism. And if Spielberg, Ford and Lucas took the time to make another fun movie... you bet I'll be there opening day with the rest of the "regular" movie going public. And I have a pretty good feeling all the naysayers will be there too.
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Aliens, mummies, old age, the wraith of God, magic stones, holy grails, crystal skulls etc etc... who the f@ck cares? I love how bent out of shape some people get. I equate it to jealousy and/or lack of sex (playing with yourself does not count).
None of you have seen the movie so saying it's great or sucks has no merit what-so-ever. These movies are created as serial fantasy like adventures. It's called escapism. And if Spielberg, Ford and Lucas took the time to make another fun movie... you bet I'll be there opening day with the rest of the "regular" movie going public. And I have a pretty good feeling all the naysayers will be there too.
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they should have one of the skulls have a light saber next to it....
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...you sound like a complete jackass whenever you open that fucking manhole-sized face-vagina you call a mouth and declare anything unto assembled geekdom.
By my reckoning, Indy has so far encountered a total of one rival archaeologist in his cinematic adventures (two if you count Forrestal's mostly inert corpse, both of which are in the same movie). So, in other words, if he encounters one in this film, that makes it a recurring motif which appears in two out of four films, which isn't exactly overwhelming considering the value attached to most of the artifacts he pursues.
You sound like the idiots yelling about Rambo "just killing a bunch of brown people as usual", when the only non-white people he killed were about half of the body count in Rambo: First Blood Part II (the rest being lily-white Soviets).
If I were you, I'd go back to talking about your fear of Indy 4 being "too pulpy" or how "Newt is Jones" in the "remake" of Alien known as Aliens, because obviously math isn't one of your strengths. -
wasn't this an episode of SG-1?
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...before you mention Dr. Elsa Schneider of last Crusade, let's eliminate her from the get-go as she is less a rival archaeologist and more a purely villainous agent of the Nazis.
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Great artwork.
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...she wasn't even an archaeologist at all, merely an historian.
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And to have films constantly spoiled for you. I'll admit, it's very tempting to know plot points before release, to up the anticipation, but you often pay for it during the film.
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You Do Not Have Access to This Disappearing Star Trek Talkback.
Hey, we should have a contest where we can submit fan poster art, depicting Indy or concepts from the new movie--intermingled with geriatric hardware and senior grocery items. Indiana Jones and the Cinnamon-Sprinkled Applesauce...of Fuckin'DOOM!! -
The new movie has a Cate Blanchett playing a villainous agent of the Soviets. Will she be an archaeologist , or a "historian"? So they've thrown in some ripoff points from Indy 3 as well as from Indy 1.
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Elsa Schnieder, as a "villainous agent of the Nazis" was just a femmed -up version of the villainous Toht from the first movie. So it's a ripoff of a ripoff.
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After all..here is a guy who travels the world raiding other countries treasures to bring back to Museums in the States and Europe. I wonder if he has the appropriate international permits and country specific approvals to be doing this.;)
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Dec 11, 2007 12:44:33 PM CST
Finky, what's worrisome is that it sounds like they ARE "remakin
by nodiggity
In the sense that they are cannibalizing elements from that picture to make sure this one is a pleaser. Of course it's actually a Sequel in that it takes place later in time, chronologically, and all the characters have different names and have superficial differences. However, if this movie was built from the start by referring back to original elements, and building characters and scenes out of a desire to mimic or echo those elements, it's a sign of uncreativity.
Let's recap. So far we've got the following parallels. Indy is after a Crystal Skull which boasts unknown supernatural powers, and also pursuing the skull are an Unethical rival Archaeologist, AND an evil agent of the Nazis/Soviets. At some point in the film Indy will get cobwebs all over his hat, while exploring some tomb. So far it sounds like the writing is like every episode of the awful "Relic Hunter" TV series, whose every episode followed that formula. Now, to all of you who insist that there's no way a good Indy movie can be made without copying as many elements from the first as possible (the Aliens fans who don't mind that it was a tweaked copy of Alien) may I refer you to Empire Strikes Back, which, while containing the same characters, managed to have them do new and different things, and still be an interesting tale? -
I'm an Indy nerd, i admit it. But I can conunter this easily by pointing out that, as a character in the film, the audience is never remotely supposed to think Toht was a "good guy" like Elsa in LC. You prove nothing, NoDiggity. I'll go a step further an point out more fundamental differences between them: 1) Indy and Elsa share a number of scenes dialoging with one another even before her "betrayal". Indy never speaks to Toht. He's one gun fight in the Nepal and they're all together in the canyon and when the Ark is opened, but they never directly interact, let alone dialogue. 2)Toht's role in advancing the story is completely different from Elsa's. As covert a Nazi agent, Toht pursues the clues to finding the Headpiece/Ravenwood for his Furher. I'd even argue that without the scalded image of the headpiece on his hand, he might not have ended up back in Egypt so quickly, if at all. The clues to the Ark was an assignment for him. Elsa on the other hand, was actively searching for the Grail. She used the Joneses to further her and her Furher's quest, but unlike Toht was actively seeking the Macguffin. School's out, NoDiggity. Go sell your "crazy" somewhere else. We're all stocked up here (as usual on AICN).
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...Excellent work, MoSmeggity. Now we can add "Schneider is Toht" to the earlier classic "Newt is Jones".
Simply mind-boggling.
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I understand your concern, and they would not be making this sequel if they didn't feel it would make some serious money. However, I do think these guys genuinely care about Indy and making a good film, which is all the more reason to refer "back to original elements", characters and scenes included. It's not uncreativity, it's usning what they know works. I'm not saying you HAVE to reuse elements to make a good "sequel". Empire's a fine example of how you can come up with a great (superior in some ways) movie by not retaining similar plot pacing and character traits. But I could counter that example with one from the same "universe" - the SW prequels. I would argue they tried reinventing the wheel and look what happened. Had they stuck closer to they way theu approached SW and Empire, things might have turned out differently. I wouldn't write off Indy IV because of some percieved similarities to Raiders. I actually take some comfort knowing they are looking at the things that WORKED in Raiders while crafting Indy IV than trying to do something "they haven't done before" and wondering if it'll come out as "successfully" as the SW prequels.
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But the Cate Blanchett character, in this new film, sounds like she's an amalgam of Scheider/Toht. How much of either one remains to be seen. Hopefully she'll be a slightly sympathetic character.
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we aliens did come to earth and forged the Mayan culture and several others. We tried to talk them out of human sacrifices but they insisted. You humans...
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I'm predicting his character will find the skull but it won't go well.
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So you’re doubting the film because there’s a rival archeologist?
I understand what you’re saying to a degree. We don’t need “Nazis” or another woman he has a love/hate relationship with, but I don’t think you can blame them for including these story points. We’ll see what Cate’s role is and what she adds to the film. In a perfect world they gave Marion a huge part and let Ms. Ravenwood be his romantic foil, but no….this is Hollywood. And a film series that was based in part on the James Bond character. There was going to be another female interest.
The rival archeologist is a good thing. He’s always, at least in 2 of the 3 films (the most successful) been in a race to get his artifact. I would be upset if this wasn’t the case. If you take out the Russians….you’re really hinging a lot on Winestone’s character being a big enough villain to rival the tone of Raiders, which is what I think most of us want. Erasing the name Germans and throwing in the Russians is formulaic, but is A) a nice bookend to underline Indy’s aged and B) no big fucking deal.
It’s Spielberg. He’ll make it work.
You can’t recreate Raiders. The most, IMO, was perfect. I would prefer a little less comedy. I, as I’m sure a lot of us have, have thought about over time what a new Indy adventure would look like. How you could create a new movie that would be on par with Raiders. One, you don’t bring back Connery or Kate Capshaw. You bring back Marion and give her a solid role. Twenty years between them, picking the Marion/Indy story back up if done right will be priceless. Personally I would have loved to have seen Short Round come back…maybe in the Marcus Brody role. Indy’s boss, friend….maybe he’s been a con man as he grew up and conned his way into getting this job.
But I’d want the tone of Raiders to be marched. Which means the artifact has to be badass. We have to feel like Indy could be beat to death, etc. You know, it was probably blind luck that the first one was as great as it was. It’d be a miracle if Kingdom even approached it, but I’ll give them credit for trying something new. This isn’t Indian Jones and Noah’s Arc. Or Indian Jones and the Garden of Eden. The alien bit could be inspired.
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(just for fun with breaks.)
So you’re doubting the film because there’s a rival archeologist?
I understand what you’re saying to a degree. We don’t need “Nazis” or another woman he has a love/hate relationship with, but I don’t think you can blame them for including these story points. We’ll see what Cate’s role is and what she adds to the film. In a perfect world they gave Marion a huge part and let Ms. Ravenwood be his romantic foil, but no….this is Hollywood. And a film series that was based in part on the James Bond character. There was going to be another female interest.
The rival archeologist is a good thing. He’s always, at least in 2 of the 3 films (the most successful) been in a race to get his artifact. I would be upset if this wasn’t the case. If you take out the Russians….you’re really hinging a lot on Winestone’s character being a big enough villain to rival the tone of Raiders, which is what I think most of us want. Erasing the name Germans and throwing in the Russians is formulaic, but is A) a nice bookend to underline Indy’s aged and B) no big fucking deal.
It’s Spielberg. He’ll make it work.
You can’t recreate Raiders. The movie, IMO, was perfect. I would prefer a little less comedy. I, as I’m sure a lot of us have, have thought about over time what a new Indy adventure would look like. How you could create a new movie that would be on par with Raiders. One, you don’t bring back Connery or Kate Capshaw. You bring back Marion and give her a solid role. Twenty years between them, picking the Marion/Indy story back up if done right will be priceless. Personally I would have loved to have seen Short Round come back…maybe in the Marcus Brody role. Indy’s boss, friend….maybe he’s been a con man as he grew up and conned his way into getting this job.
But I’d want the tone of Raiders to be matched. Which means the artifact has to be badass. We have to feel like Indy could be beat to death, etc. You know, it was probably blind luck that the first one was as great as it was. It’d be a miracle if Kingdom even approached it, but I’ll give them credit for trying something new. This isn’t Indian Jones and Noah’s Arc. Or Indian Jones and the Garden of Eden. The alien bit could be inspired.
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It sounds like she's got a small part, and the main Female "love/hate" relationship mentioned in the article that was linked to will be taken by the Cate Blanchett evil Russian person.
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...in discussing both Indy and Aliens is that you suffer from a malady similar to ringwearer9's. You choose to ignore those things which differ from each other thematically or in other ways and instead choose to focus on similar things of a fleeting or superficial nature. You then use these things to support conclusions which are, mildly put, borderline ludicrous. No, scratch that - they ARE ludicrous. You come off as someone who is desperately trying to sound intellectual but the points you make are so simple, safe, generic and off the mark that you instead seem like an obnoxious dolt.
You've stated your fear of Indy 4 being "too pulpy" (Indiana fucking Jones!) and then display a complete lack of understanding of the genre being homaged when you complain of recurring themes in the films. You've also said outrageous things like the Soviets more or less not being evil enough to be villains and that having the Soviets as villains in this day and age smacks of Western saber-rattling in the face of Russia's resurgence.
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For the same reason Superman Returns was...its simply been too long since the last movie. If you're audience is comprised of those who watched the first three and remember them clearly, then fine, build from there. But the movie is made to make money...the identity of the property must be re-established...you cannot simply "creatively change" from here because for the grand majority of viewers, they have no idea the change in creativity would even be from. 1989 was a long time ago...you have to rehash to re-establish identity.
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and the commies are caught with there pants down. then the ark starts rumbling. because the ark is in this movie, right? or is it not? i hope not. in the case of their being alien grays in this movie, i can see it being mentioned that the mayans or whomever believe thier gods came from the stars, but putting them in the movie would just be lame. though this film still needs and exciting supernatural conclusion. lets look at the sort of "wrath of the gods" that so far has been seen in these films, in raiders theirs a lot of ghosts and lights shining all around after the arc is opened, in crusade theirs a lot of shaking and quaking after the seal is crossed, and in temple a stone turns really hot, so what can be done different in this film? if the skulls are real they have to do something really cool and new, not just shaking, turning hot or shooting out lightning.
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...I have no problem with either aliens or supernatural shenanigans in an Indy film, as long as it's something otherworldly.
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The ark belongs in a museum...and the penis of Indiana Jones belongs inside Marion, not Cate Blanchett's russian double-agent. And HAM belongs on Harrison Ford's lunch plate. Without these things, there cannot be AWESOME
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I don't think it'll be a rehash. "Raiders" started with a jungle exploit, then took us to Indy's day job as a college prof before sending him on the big adventure. We GOT it, and it didn't take that long. All they have to do is the same kind of thing: opening exploit -> college
->enter the Macguffin -> send Indy on his way (cue overlay of red line following airplane across the map). I was ten when I saw "Raiders" in theatres, and I got it. I'm sure they can work this one out so that today's kids can pick up without having to rehash the other movies. -
Elsa Schneider did not strike me as a female Toht. She seemed to be her own character--a femme fatale double-crosser. Toht was bad from the start. No playing both sides with him. Plus, I for one would MUCH rather merge my blood-engorged member with Elsa's physical manifestation of being than with Toht and his gimp hand.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJn4h_VL_Xk&feature=related
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Right? A Mayan Crystal Skull?
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and they haven't been back there since.
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Dec 11, 2007 3:58:18 PM CST
Oh yeah, and the "Crystal Skull" is an echo of the Golden Head
by nodiggity
That Indy finds in a Tomb in Peru.
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Indy doesn't find a "golden head" in Raiders. It's golden fertility idol and though the head is a very pronounced part of the idol, there's also a torso and appendages. Just stop, NoDiggity, you're proving yourself less and less an Indyfan and more and more of an attention-whoring asspickle.
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But it does have an unconscious "That seems like an Indyish artifact" element to it. I wouldn't bitch about it much, though.
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that's all i have to contribute at this time.
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or, more appropriately, 'indiana jones and his afternoon spent getting baked and eating ho hos while watching fantasy island reruns.' the one time i met ford, he was COMPLETELY high and he kept giggling in my ear (we were standing in line to meet the dalai lama. yes, that is a true story).
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Indy, stumbling naked though the Bath House of Doom, runs into his old friend Short Round, now an adult, on all fours, servicing various large hairy men. Indy, stung out on some Magical Crystal Meth, and horny as hell, pulls a freaky reach-around move, thereby penetrating every anus in the room, saving Short Rounds dignity (sort of), and contracting several STDs as the soundtrack leaps and soars.
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Jack, I did apologize for mistaking your jab at him a jab at me. Sorry. BUT, even if I didn't, that has to be the lamest comeback I've ever read. I mean, really now.
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His trek through the jungle and the sequence in the tomb is one of the most memorable sequences, it blew all our minds when we first saw it! "Minor" ? You mean, no one would ever think to rehash a South American Jungle setting because that sequence just zips by without anyone noticing it? Come on. And if the new movie is set in a South American Jungle for MORE of it's time than Raiders is, you'll say that makes it "totally different"? Again, come on. The reason it's being set in a South American Jungle, with Mayans, is because of the South American setting being a major, memorable scene in the first film.
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I didn't say it wasn't memorable. It's damn memorable. But the opening "adventure" set in South America was not a major part of the Raiders story.Of course it introduces Indy and it does a great job of setting up the relationship between Indy and Belloq quickly and succintly. But that could have been anywhere or any object. What he was seeking and where was not importnant to the film's plot. he could just as easily have been after a treasure in some other part of the world and accomplished the same thing as far as advancing the story. So, YES, the fact the opening scenes of Raiders took place in a South American jungle is a relatively "minor" detail in the Indyverse. Perhaps SS and company looked back at that and wanted to return Indy to the jungles of South America in Indy IV. Big deal. There's ALOT of jungle (especially in the 50's) in South America so i don't think him being in one part of it in 1936 means Indy going back there is absurd. And I would presume to call it "uncreative" either because I haven't read the script to understand why the story goes back to the jungles. I assume it's something to do with the crystal skulls, which mean his being there is very much PLOT DRIVEN. This is a new Indy story, perhaps with some familiar elements, that brings Indy back to the jungle. All the Indy elements you've mentioned from previous films are things that worked and people liked about those films. Why would it be "bad" to use them again?
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I meant to say "I would NOT presume to call it 'uncreative'"
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I'd watch it...
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Meaning the Berg choosing 'up and coming hot star' Shia, that's if it WAS his choice and not the studios wanting him.
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... there's an alien face right between the eyes of that skull. And more importantly, check out the eyes on the skull... look more like Grey Alien eyes than human eyes, don't they?
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An ancient Mayan curse would be fine, but please, no aliens...
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I see the alien face, too. I hope composer John Williams can capture the mysterious awe of the Ark theme in Raiders. Indy IV is supposedly closest to the '81 film. If George, Steven, and Harrison deliver, I'll have to move on from Menace, Worlds, Homicide, Firewall, etc....
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in an ongoing practice by Lucas and now Spielberg...there is now a direct link between these two movies...
At the End of the New Indy movie..Indy will be captured by the Aliens, and assumed gone forever...
....he will return to earth in the new ILM updated version of Close Encounters, with Lucas imagined additional scenes, when the aliens release all those they have picked up over the years.
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Remember Star Wars happened a long time ago. Jar Jar's ship got thrown into deep space and landed in Mexico where the Mayans worshipped him as a God. Jar Jar married a Mayan chick and Marc Anthony is his decendent (notice the resemblance?). Now J. Lo is carrying another of Jar Jar's heirs.
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Ah, I see my work here is done.
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I get that inner groan when I think of combining Indy and extraterrestrials. Strikes me as overly gimmicky and not supernaturaly enough. To me the Indy movies are about true grit versus Nazis versus wrath of gods layin' down their face-melting judgment. Throwing aliens into the same universe at this point might be a little much for me, but still...it's Indiana Jones and in the end I'm still down.
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That's like making Beowulf comletely CGI and making the tomb raider girl Grendel's mother, and having Beowulf and Mrs Smith do it to produce Jar Jar's mean older brother. Will Indie find the remains of Richard Dreyfuss with the help of Terry Garr? I think the tv from Poltergeist should also make an appearance, and Jackie Chan.
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I would shit my pants if that happend. Seriously, I'll wear a diaper opening day.
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You just made my head explode. I'm one of those people who thinks too many cross connections (like Stephen King's one-world) are just dumb. May seem like a good idea at the time, but it's too jarring, makes me for one feel more alienated from the stories. Let the stories tell themselves, and move on.
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You crack me up. Fool.
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Dec 12, 2007 6:04:29 AM CST
Holy Shit that poster is fucking great
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Drew Struzan still has it, I love that dude, think he does the best posters ever. I have a beautiful Shawshank Redemption poster by him above my t.v.
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thats el santo.
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That's exactly what NoDiggity is. Let's hope he doesn't care if he loses his hat in this one, right NoDiggity?
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I'm just sayin'
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that I noted the alien face FIRST bitches! Bwah hah hah. And at the end of "Crystal Skull" the mother ship lands and SPOILER Richard Dreyfuss gets out, and he hasn't aged a bit since he got on the ship in 1977!! That would be AWESOME!!
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Clearly another little white skull on Indy's chest, or maybe he's wearing an amulet. Or maybe it's ham. whatever it is, I saw it and it's awesome.
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Yep, it's gone from "Rise of..." to a title that has the word Skull in it. Is this the beginning of a trend of Skull related flicks? Hope not.
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for the second time at the now long-gone Loews West in Rocky River Ohio. I was with my cousin, who hadn't seen it yet. He couldn't see well, so I sacrificed my glasses because I told him it was too AWESOME to not be able to see it.
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The fact that I didn't spend more than 1.3 seconds thinking of a non-lame comeback is a testament to what I think about Laser-something or another.
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I think you're seeing the glare from his sweaty Indychest.
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not because it's an iconic part of the character's image, but because Indy loves his hat so much and this is obviously the same one, but is it? and it has to be pristine, because we see in Raiders Indy only packs one hat! What an asspickle ND is. (nods to Doc P for the lingo)
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Don't know how much truth there is to a recent article I read, but Reubens was talking about his upcoming Pee Wee movie. Allegedly, he's talking to Tim Burton about directing it again. And he's considering asking Johnny Depp to play the Pee Wee Herman character. I'd dismiss this rumor, except for the possibility that Burton might bring Depp into it.
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Dec 12, 2007 1:05:30 PM CST
Pillow, if there are scenes where Indy almost loses his hat ...
by nodiggity
As a joke reference to the stupid hat-retrieving stuff in Temple of Dooom, it will be groanworthy. It was already groanworthy in Temple of Doom.
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If that's true, and Burton asks Depp to be in it, if I were Depp I would just go ahead already and fuck Burton in the ass so he would finally go away and stop calling me for EVERY damn movie. I'd be like, "There--I fucked you. Stop calling me, freak."
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can you believe it? after 23 years us fans in the united kingdom have yet to see the full uncut version of temple of doom...
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"Indiana Jones and the Ass Pirates of Ravenwood," because Indy finally consummates his love for Marion...in every possible way.
Hey, wouldn't it be cool to see Indy get even with Lao Che in this movie, and maybe piss on the guy's face as he lay dying. Then Indy could zip up and say something like, "Thanks for the antidote, bitch. It let me live another 25 years so I could do that." -
What'd you expect from a guy calling himself "Ravenwood"? It's a bit reminiscent of the "Temple of Doom" poster (minus the machete), but this poster FUCKIN' ROCKS.
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It was meant to be cast.
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What's cut in the uk version?
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by killing his son right after he found out he'd been poisoned. That said, it'd still be cool if Indy pissed on his bones and said "Nice try, Lao Che" one more time.
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actually, now that I think about it, I'm not so sure that skinny guy Indy spears IS one of Lao's sons. Nevertheless, Lao seems plenty pissed about it, as though it could have been. although that guy looks more like Frank Oz than Lao.
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...Indy gets taken up in the Close Encounters mothership, and then gets released at the end of the upcoming extra-special re-release edition of Close Encounters, with all new scenes of Indy coming down the ramp.
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I know what you mean, but even though Indy spearchucked that guy with flambe, Lao Che had the last laugh by tricking Indy and co. onto one of Lao's planes. The pilots ditched the plane, hoping to kill Indy, and unwittingly sending him into his next adventure. So I always scored one for Lao Che there. The entirety of "Temple of Doom" was like Lao giving Indy the finger, so yeah it'll never be even until Indy uses Lao's skull as a colostomy receptacle (kept inside Indy's Man Purse, of course).
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And he was standing behind the aliens on the spacecraft? I hope its like that.
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"Antidote.....for the poison you just drank Dr. Jones!"
"Now give me...the diamond...."
It was the way he was saying it and the way his drunk henchman said "TOO MACH TO DRINK DOCTA JONES??" that stole the show...and led to "Goodbye, Dr. Jones" as Indy got in Lao's airplane.
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This is going to be cool. I'm just wondering if the commies are gong to replace the nazis as the primary villian.
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how I overlooked that detail, I just don't know. Temple of Doom's whoel existence as a film is exactly like a huge "fuck you and die!" to Indy from Lao. No more parachute (sic)!
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only instead of bears, the hijackers can do monkeys (?)
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In Indy TB's we've already done the following hijacks: Perversions of "Indiana Jones and the . . . " Insert "ham" into as many movie quotes and titles as possible I remember something about dinosaur porn from way, way back, too
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at least get to the
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and it turns out that Indiana Jones is actually Anakin Skywalker's father, who fucked Shmi doggy style whilst searching for, and finding, and taking, the INFINITE VIAGRA PILL OF ETERNITY (aka MIDICHLORIANS)!
Mostly I want this to happen because geekdoms collective head would implode with the most vicious and hilarious lovehate you can imagine.
Seriously, nothing is funnier than how much lovehate was spilled for the Star Wars prequels. The hate ran so deep it was, of course, a mask hiding an almost obscenely obsessive love. Yes, its true, every hater secretly not only loves Jar Jar, but masturbates furiously whenever he appears on screen. Search your JarJar pajamas, you know it to be true... -
Meesa likem bigga!
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Another classic from Struzan. Nice.
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....I think that if enough money is made off of this new flick, they will make 2 more with Harrison Ford!!! BOOK IT!!!
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Yes, aliens from Close encounters and Jaws also, so that's what Indy and his sidekick fonzee are looking at, Jaws! Bill Paxton also makes an appearance along with Jackie Chan and the star of the new television hit Cane!
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This film could be about Indy finding his missing pen, and I'd be a first-day viewer.
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...that the mystical alien powers in the new movie are harnessed by the bad guys--the russkies or whatever, and Indy deduces that the only thing on earth powerful enough to offset such negative energy is...the Ark. Or Ham.
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Like Indiana Jones, this talkback shall be impervious so long as it is up and I am bored at work. Until next time, Stay Out of the Light.
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as Sepito's still-living twin brother, who has a grudge against Indy for allegedly leading his brother to certain death. And give him Doc Ock's arms. Just because.
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It's obviously why Harrison went straight for it
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I don't know if I should be, but I am. That is a fantasticly hijacked TB. And those guys kept is going for nearly a week after the comments for the actual article died away. Although it's not a record-breaker in terms of the number of posts, I think it's close for a hijacked TB NOT being spanked by the mods or having anyone banned.
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it would be better than most of the movies released in the last few years. But I guess that ain't saying much
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not really, but it should be
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If I had some extra cash and the coding skills to go with it, I'd acquire the url "www.AICNTalkbacks.com" and start a collection of all the memorable talkbacks from this site.
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man, I love that movie
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(taps plays quietly)
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What's that quote from? It's on the tip of my brain but I can't remember it.
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Is it Ghostbusters?
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