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Leo gets a wife in Scorsese's SHUTTER ISLAND!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I recently posted an article on Martin Scorsese's next flick, SHUTTER ISLAND, about how amazingly badass it sounded. At that point it was Leo DiCaprio and Mark Ruffalo. Now Ben Kingsley and Michelle Williams have joined the movie. And no, Kingsley is not playing DiCaprio's wife... it's the latter who will be his main squeeze... oh, and she's dead. Nice, huh? Kingsley is the creepy hospital's head physician. Scorsese doing this movie makes me happy.
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on shutter island
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That would have been a certain talkbacker's wet dream. No, not me.
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I missed the article but the book does sound great. Did you end up reading it?
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on every Scorcese flick? Is he the only reason Scorcese flicks get the greenlight anymore? I'm not Leo-hatin', I'm just asking.
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Thought I'd just add that....
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not once but twice. May the Lord have mercy on what's left of my soul.
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It is a scratch n sniff pop-up book. You can almost taste the taint.
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Sometimes it's better when a director does a few movies using the same actor. If you notice, DiCaprio's performances have gotten better and better with each Scorsese movie. It takes time for a director to establish the type of relationship with an actor that yields the classic performances that we see on screen....e.g. Hitchcock and Cary Grant, Burton and Johnny Depp. Would you rather have DiCaprio let his talent deaden under the direction of an inexperienced hack or to fully mature in the capable hands of a auteur who knows what he is doing?
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....care-bear stare that gets passed of as 'intense acting' compromise and undermine all of Scorsese's last films? Really this guy, apart from What's Eating Gilbert Grape, is really two-dimensional. How much more interesting would The Deaprted be with Bale in the lead or someone else who doesn't look like a 10 year old with his allowance docked every time he asked to look 'edgy'. Brando, this guy is not. There are any number of young actors who could do what this guy can do and better. Let his 'talent deaden' as far as I'm concerned.
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...I watched 'The Departed' again recently, and though I like the movie, I have to admit Nicholson's performance was really bad. It was hammy and he was just playing himself, as he often does. He can act, and has the ability to get into character at times, but this was not one of them.
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Marty really likes Leo. It's like he's a big fan of the actor and he really enjoys working with him. It's a sort of director/actor relationship. It's pretty common, actually. It also explains why Tim Burton has a few films with Michael Keaton and Danny DeVito, why Tarantino has worked with Samuel L. Jackson and Uma Thurman multiple times, Bruce Willis and Robert Rodriguez, Scarlett Johannson and Woody Allen, Kurt Russel and John Carpenter, Terry Gilliam and that bunch of midgets....I can go on and on. Friendships go a long way in the movie-making process.
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should watch The Aviator, The Departed, and then Blood Diamond and then they can go fuck themselves.
He's also an actor that Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks, and MARTIN SCORSESE have been wowed by. -
More haunting than The Sixth Sense! Shutter Island is a perfect teen dream. It has everything that makes a movie totally cool: laughs, adventure, spirit, hot music, drama and of course BRITNEY! Britney rocks! She is like a comet. A talent of her magnitude only comes around once in a lifetime and you can't take your eyes off her when she is on screen in this totally cool and delightfully hip movie.
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Didn't Scorsese also make a few films with some guy called DeNiro? I guess if there'd been an AICN in the 70s we'd be bitching about that, too. The weakness of the source material here is the bigger problem. Still find it hard to believe Scorsese wants to make this, but hey, he did remake "Cape Fear" (also with that DeNiro guy, if memory serves).
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About an tough as my 5 year old cousin. Plus Mark Ruffalow is about as interesting as a bag of Ruffles Regular Potato Chips. This movie could be good, has an interesting idea. We'll see is Score can really be the Genre hoping Boyle that he hopes to be, I mean he knows how to make De Niro come off as crazy.
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I saw Species on the SciFi channel recently, and was surprised to find the young Syl (Michelle Williams) really was a better actress than mature Syl (Natasha Henstridge). Time goes to show ya!
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. . . but have you ever tried Ruffalo w/ some kick ass french onion dip? If so, you'd change your tune pronto. . .
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Don't ask me why but that post brings a smile to face every time i see it. It's been all of five minutes since i read it in the Kite Runner talkback and it made me laugh again! Either i am easily amused at this time on a Friday or you me friend are an undiscovered comic genius
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Loved Michelle Williams in Station Agent and Brokeback Mountain, she really surprised me in those. Glad to see she's dumped Ledger and is focusing on interesting work.
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I'm with you that DiCaprio isn't two dimensional. He can be great - Gilbert Grape being the best example. I have to say i never particularly liked him but then Catch Me If You Can turned me around. That said Departed was a very average film and many people could have played it as well or better than DiCaprio (I agree with the Bale suggestion) and Blood Diamond featured one of my favourite comedy accents of recent years! Not a good effort by DiCaprio. Still, Scorsese is capable of brilliance even on a coastable director-for-hire thriller like Shutter Island so here's hoping.
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Anything these days SCorcesse does, will automatically be called a "Masterpiece". The Departed was an average crime thriller. Nothing more, nothing less. I can't believe it won best picture.
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Ii had great potential, but Lehane pissed it all away. I have no idea why Scorsese would want to make this.
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Is this site boycotting reviews for this film like they did with Superbad? FREEDOM OF THE PRESS! ATTICA!
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But Leo has found the good graces of a master director while Bale goes on to be in Batman and Terminator movies. His brilliant performances are stuck to smaller films that less people will see.
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Dennis Lehane did not cop out or Hollywood-ize the ending. That's why I'm glad Scorsese is directing. He won't either.
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Totally dependent on a single, plot-defining "twist" that most people can see coming a mile away. Once you do, you're just waiting for it to end. 'The Departed' was a goddamn joke, by the way.
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de niro, dicaprio, and scorsese.
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Dec 07, 2007 11:23:26 AM CST
Let's take another look at Taxi Driver-era DeNiro vs. DiCaprio
by i am_notreal
Scrawny boy, that Travis Bickle. Actually, Departed-style DiCaprio doesn't seem that much of a stretch for Taxi Driver, if you can accept that actors change roles and that not everything DiCaprio does deserves to be tainted by Titanic. I do recall him beating some dudes up in Departed, seemed pretty decent at it.
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we're all welcome to our opinions, right? I just didn't like it. But, I find myself agreeing more with laserhead's post (right after yours).
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I did enjoy that movie. And if anyone could make this book work, it will be Scorsese.
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I've seen Departed probably 4 times now - not on purpose, it's just always playing when I walk into someone's house. 2 problems with that movie: 1) there is no way Jack shouldn't have figured out that Leo is the rat. He has what, 5 core guys in his crew- Leo being the new one. There are several occassions during the film when it should be completely obvious who the rat is. 2) Finding out Frank is an informant with the FBI - sucks all the tension right out of the flick, and remains a wet noodle for the last hour. Also scorcese needs to move off the rolling stones.
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The amazing thing about Deniro in Scorcese's early masterworks was that he completely disappeared into the roles. Leo never does this, and his permanatly furrowed brow and all of his ridiculous attempts at accents are just distracting. The best you can say about him is that he doesn't do a terrible job, or that he was "better" than last time, but he's still Leo.
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The guy has what, 5 years left of making movies? He needs to get on it.
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1) Why is that every single episode of The Sopranos is far superior? 2) With such glory-hole stuntcasting, how is that Mark Whalberg's is the performance you remember?
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Any way, I gave up on defending Marty after the top-hatted travesty of Gangs, which really shoulda been a musical ("Ohhhhh...we are da Rabbits and we're here ta say! We'll rule the Five Points todayyyy!! Hurray!" "Well I am da Butchah, and I'm here ta say! I'd da king a New Yawk tadayyyyy!!!" Cue Rolling Stones' "Gimme Shelter.")
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I agree with you, sir. Leo is better off with Marty. Spielberg got the best performances from Tom Cruise that I've seen. Also look that the Scott bro.'s; Tony's had his hooks into our greatest movie star for years, and lent him to his brother for American Gangster. Mr. Crowe has worked, and is continuing to work with Sir Ridely...and I believe each performance trumps the last. Leo's performance in Aviator was fantastic. I also believe it makes for better filmmaking; the star and the director in sync, filming is enjoyable and productive. Leo, Russell Crowe and Denzel are the smartest actors in the business. Marty, Steven, and the Scott bro's are the smartest directors because of this. Because, no matter the movie or what it's about. We're first in line when those names are together on the Marquee. Long live collaboration.
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Now if we could drag Mr. Hanks away from Mr. Howards hands....but the source material of their previous atttempt and forthcoming---it's garbage anyways. Judd Apatow is starting to join this esteemed league with his films...Paul Rudd is reborn, I swear. He's the new Chevy Chase..or Ackroyd.
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Mr. TiVo1138 stated 'Leo is the new Brango' (paraphrasing). I won't argue that, except to say that I don't think he's the only ONE. Leo is finding his speed, but Mr. Washington and Mr. Crowe would be choices for me. IF we are looking at it from a movie star point of view. If just from a 'actor' point of view, one actor has been the 'new' Brando for decades. Daniel Day-Lewis; the single most gifted actor since Mr. Brando--and Mr. Lewis is STILL going strong, unlike Mr. Brando at the same age. Not even Mr. Penn can touch Mr. Lewis. But I understand where you are coming from; Leo has a...brooding quality to his performances that is impossible not to compare to Mr. Brando.
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The Aviator was Marty's best since Bringing the Dead (think that's the name). But comparing to the Soprano's isn't fair, i believe. The Soprano's ran out of steam after the 1st season--it just took this long for me to realize it. It's a different mafia animal in the Departed. Now, your idea of Gangs of New York as a musical? Ok, I howled with laughter at first...but this actually could WORK. Sweeny Todd, anyone. Think about it. Also, the best perfomance by an actor in any film by Marty is in Gangs of NY. I think I'll leave that answer to you.
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I have much love for The Station Agent.
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OK, I did enjoy The Aviator, even if I thought it was kind of silly, what with HH being presented as a kind of star-effing, congress-chewing super-hero. Look! Up in the sky! It's OCD Man! And yes, at least the first two acts of Bringing Out the Dead are on par with his best work. And seriously, GONY was just begging for some song and dance. I actually DO think it could work. Makes more sense than most of these movie-to-broadway concepts we've been seeing, and Bill The Butcher Sings! On that, I think Daniel Day Lewis should have a handlebar mustache in all of his movies, it really brings something out in him.
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I believe I experienced PAIN laughing at 'it's OCD MAN!!!. Mr. bswise, that was inspired. Gangs of New York the musical; I'm not joking one bit about it, we stand together in agreement. A friend of mine finished a run of 'Evil Knieval: The Rock Opera' in Cali--need I say more? Well, I'm going too...your comment on Mr.Lewis's moustache? AGREED..and he apparently likes it himself. On another Gangs note--is it me or was it like Mr. Lewis was in a completely different movie? He was so BEYOND anyone else in committment to role....best screen bad guy in years. And no, Mr. Bardem ISNT, despite the hype for No Country; read the book---he didn't even TOUCH on Chigur.
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Well expressed and I couldn't have said it better myself. Could Leo handle the range of King of Comedy (DeNiro's most underrated performance surely?), Goodfellas, Taxi Driver and Raging Bull? Very, very doubtful. Whatever accent he tries manfully we always end up with just Leo putting a voice on I'm afraid - hitting that same note that Cruise always does when he's stretching in doing 'better than we expect', rather than just being brilliant. Check Bale out in Metroland and All the Little Animals. Two really unremarkable films but its hard to reconcile the actor in both those movies as being the same guy who is also Bruce Wayne (in various guises) and The Machinist. Bale is nuanced and subtle in ways Leo can't even beging to access. Sorry.
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The release was delayed an entire year so he could cut it down from a much longer version to the 3 hour cut that played theaters. I also want to see Billy Bob Thornton's longer cut of All the Pretty Horses. Both movies were gutted by Harvey Weinstein.
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...would lose Cameron Diaz entirely, I'm afraid. Now! ON TO BROADWAY!!! It'll be like Les Miz meets West Side Story. ('Evil Knievel: The Rock Opera' Heh-heh, hadn't heard about that one, that's priceless. But good timing, eh?)
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http://www.ekrockopera.com/index.html
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You cant try to insert Leo or anyone else into Raging Bull or other iconic roles like that. You think DeNiro could have pulled off a good Han Solo role? Its absurd to juxtapose like that. Depp is the overrated actor of our generation that has no range. Even Keanu is better...he knows his limitations.
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Hunter Thompson, Ed Wood, JM Barrie, Jack Sparrow, Donnie Brasco, Edward Scissorhands, Wade Walker, Gilbert Grape.....I think the guy has some range.
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Even a young Deniro wouldnt have elevated it. Its not bad,just over rated. Try and imagine Deniro in Lawrence Of Arabia. Cant do it. Once an iconic perfomance (like your example of Raging Bull) is established, you cant imagine anyone else.
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Sure his roles are quite diverse...but i mean range. There are actors and then there are movie stars. Depp is a TV star turned movie star. I dont think he's bad. Im just amazed at the kudos this guy gets. Oscar nomination for Jack Sparrow?? What was that?
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I'm finding it hard to argue with you about Johnny Depp---his Hunter S. Thompson is not really that different from Jack sparrow, really. He's a movie star, for sure. It's even more sad when a good actor becomes a movie star---and forgets his roots. Nick Cage, is an example. Yes he has returned to acting---but nothing like pre-vegas. I think Cage works best in a comedic environment---Raising Arizona, eg.
De Niro is the most overrated actor perhaps in History; BUT he knows his limitations. Pacino IS the better actor, but he DOESNT know his limitations. They are both amateurs compared to Sean Penn, Daniel Day Lewis, Marlon Brando (up until he was 40), Meryl Streep. -
...simply because I heard it was awful. I actually have a good friend who loved it and tells me to see it every chance he gets. Im quite skeptical though. Im sure your right about Leo's role there...sounds like a true tough guy is needed there. Thats probably a case of miscasting though. Case in point: Matthew Broderick as the Civil War commander in Glory. UGH!
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...Penn is such an asshole. But his acting is off the charts. One of our best. Denzel too.
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now, because DeNiro has already done it, thereby creating the definitive version of the character. Same goes for Han Solo, Indiana Jones, Michael Corleone, and Benjamin Braddock. You can't separate the actor from the character anymore; the two are inexorably linked, so trying to imagine DiCaprio in place of DeNiro is just too difficult. I'm just saying DiCaprio has better chops than it seems a lot of people want to give him credit for. I'm certainly not one to consider the Oscars a barometer for all that's right in film, but the guy does have 3 nominations, that's gotta be worth something. FWIW, The Departed was a good film that squandered its chance to be great on too much scenery-chewing from Nicholson, a blatant cheat in the alleyway chase, and Scorsese's inability to suppress his own worst instincts, namely in the thuddingly obvious and equally unnecessary closing shot of the rat crawling on Matt Damon's balcony railing with the state capital looming in the background.
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William Hurt should have been in Nicholsons role---playing it 'Ritchie' style (you know the movie). The film would have been on a different level; the final shootout was so Looney tunes, it killed the movie for me. PLUS, and DONT jump down my throat on this---there was too much...can't believe I'm saying this....there was too much swearing. Sometimes language can bury a film---and it DID in this one. The Departed was a mess; not as much as say Spiderman 3, but it was still a trainwreck. Worse, it was predictable and tried NOT to be---making it convultued.
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The Departed was good. Not bad, good. I think it is amazing how Arnie DiCaprio has overcome his particular challenges to assimilate right into the filmic mainstream. They gave Marlee Matlin
an Oscar and called her performances incredible because she can't hear herself. Arnie has no frontal lobe and he's pissed on because his South African dialect drifts into Crocodile Dundee territory occasionally. And I did not find it predictable when Arnie's malformed brain matter was splatted against the back of an elevator like a blast from Dirk's nozzle during Hay Fever season. Did not see that coming like that when it did, just like Marty Sheen dropping by to gore your shoes. Unexpected most days. -
...to think that Depp's Hunter Thompson is the same as his Jack Sparrow. Are you kidding me? Its as ridiculous as the people saying his Sparrow is the same as his Sweeney Todd. Its like they're tone deaf when it comes to acting. Depp is one of the finest actors around.
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No, not that high. Fear and Loathing is Depp's best performance...but perhaps you have me. I think he incorporated obvious characteristics for Capt. Jack. Depp is a movie star, that's it. Not a bad actor, just not a great one; applicable to Brad Pitt as well.
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All I need to know: Marty and Leo. That is all. :)
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Dec 11, 2007 12:39:41 AM CST
I hope Scorsesse does to Shutter Island what Fincher did to Figh
by spakattak
The ending in the book sucked ass. It was a copp out, to what was, up 'till that point, an awesome read.
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Can he make an awesome movie out of a flawed book. The book was so great until the lame ending. It had fantastic classic themes that have not ever been perfectly realized on in word or film while being this complex. If Scorsese can think of a way to 'hint' at the books ending, while coming up with something completely original (the books conclusion has been done to death) and finds a way to ground the ending. He will be a genius. We already know he is a genius. And I love the pairing of him and Leo for this one (Leos perfect for the role) but PLEASE fix the ending. This movie could last forever if that can be done
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