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Cap'n Jack is Michael Mann's PUBLIC ENEMY number one!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. There are a couple of pieces of news that hit today that really get my geek juices flowing. One is about Apatow's next producer project (above) and this one about Johnny Depp "shaking hands" on a deal to star in PUBLIC ENEMY for Michael Mann. The flick is set against a Depression-era backdrop with all of that age's most notorious gangsters, including Baby Face Nelson and Pretty Boy Floyd. Johnny Depp would play John Dillinger, giving his take on a role that has previously been performed by such greats as Laurence Tierney and Warren Oates.
Mann wrote the script based on a Bryan Burroughs novel. Mann and Depp together doing a period gangster flick? Count me in.
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Has me there. Hell, i even watched the last two godawful Pirates movies. Todd is brilliant. Can forgive Mann for Miami Vice and the last 30 minutes of Collateral. Sure with Depp he'll get his mojo back. One to look forward to.
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..is always good. Does this have Slusho. It better have Slusho.
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..is also good. Well done filmcoyote.
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..is usually a good thing. Especially if it involves big transforming robots that shout out their own names. This movie features neither which gives us all hope.
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...will not go past Harry Knowles' lips. And Harry likes his food so he does.
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Dec 06, 2007 4:52:54 AM CST
Anything that features Christian Bale is always good except...
by iammrmonkey!
...when it's directed by MCG. He could be Christian Bale's Krytonite although this is currently only a theory.
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..is usually a winner. There have been few exceptions to this rule. Hopefully Mann will realise this fact and make Depp do a wacky accent. I suggest something completely offbeat and strange. How about Japanese? Depp hasn't tried that one yet.
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So much for Mann's allegiance to the WGA and the strike. This is a deal that just came together if Depp only just committed to the film. I guess he's always looked out for number one. Because, being the perfectionist that Mann is, there's no way he doesn't tinker further with the script. I hope for his sake (and the entire industry) that a deal can be reached before Mann goes into production - but when an industry icon signs onto a film during a WGA strike, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. One expects it of McG, but not Mann.
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John Barrowman was going to be in a Michael Mann film!
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Only for making a great film that stood out in a summer of schlock.
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on the grown-ass babies on here. Who gives a shit about Michael Bay in a story that has Michael Mann and Johnny Depp? Honestly. I dig Mann's style, I wonder if this will be shot on those HD cameras he's been using. One things certain. It'll own Asses. Michael Bay's And the people who bitch about him.
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(And yes, with his record, he can be forgiven for Miami Vice 2006)... John Depp, on the other hand, is nowadays always bad news.
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seriously. 21 jump street meets miami vice with a budget and a script.
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I'll definitely watch that flick!
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... it's "tough guy."
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Bruno Kirby with a bad toupee was 20 times more menacing than Depp.
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Excluding Collateral, everything he touches is amazing.
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He's the great actor who makes terrible movies. Other than that first Pirates movie his entire resume is full of fantastic performances in lousy movies.
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Crybaby, Edward Scissorhands, What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Ed Wood, Donnie Brasco, Dead Man, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Blow, Pirates of the Caribeen Trilogy, Finding Neverland, Sleepy Hollow, and From Hell lousy movies??? Sure he did garabage like the Astronaut's Wife and Secret Window, but those are anomolies. Please put down the glass pipe pronto!!!!!
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I hope this one actually proceeds. He's been atached to a lot of stuff lately, with every single one of them falling through. If I recall he was suppossed to be working on another crime flick with De Niro called Frankie Machine and something with Will Smith called Empire.
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Spandau, what about Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood? Those are great movies
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2 Things:
Thank you for beating me to naming all Johnny Depp's good movies (Nightmare on Elm Street is an honorable mention).
Second, it does seem that Michael Mann and Martin Scorsese always get linked to a million projects, but then they never come to fruition. -
USA today has a bunch of Speed Racer picks up. Has that been on here yet or did i miss it? They are saying "revolutionary" but looks Tron/Spy Kids style to me! Link here:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2007-12-05-speed-racer_N.htm
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This is, in a word, awesome.
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Dec 06, 2007 8:43:28 AM CST
DONNIE BRASCO WAS A BIT ANTI-SEPTIC FOR A GANGSTER MOVIE
by bringingsexyback
but don't get me wrong, it's still one of my favorite movies because of Depp and Pacino's chemistry. And Ann Heche was great. But it lacked grittiness for a mafia film.
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... I'm a fan of the Apatow-niverse and all but you might be the proponent that finally gets me sick of it all. It's cool you created a talk-back for Year One, but you couldn't stop dry humping it before you created this one. Grab the reigns, man . . .
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Fight da power!!
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Samuel Fulmer, I did say that I liked the first Pirates film, but did not like the sequels. And yes, I liked What's Eating Gilbert Grape and Nightmare On Elm Street.
I guess the main dividing point is whether you like Tim Burton's filmmaking and I don't. I feel he creates great atmosphere and has the good sense to keep casting Depp, who is a talented actor, but Burton just can't build a story in a way that I fidn meaningful. For some people inventive production design is enough to make a movie, and I guess those people are Tim Burton's fans. When I saw Pan's Labrynth it felt like the movie Burton has been failing to make his whole career. Pan's L made me really realize Burton's shortcomings.
As for most of those other movies, I feel like they actually make my point. I don't think BLOW was very good, but had great acting from Depp and Cruz. Same goes for Donnie Brasco. Both of these movies felt like tired cliched with only good acting to redeem them. Sorta like this new American Gangster movie of Mr. Scott's.So I guess we'll just have to agree that Depp is talented, as is Michael Mann, and disagree on Depp's films.PS I have not seen Finding Neverland, it looked boring. -
And you are all douchebags.
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From Film Ink magazine
“Now, hands down, the movie I hated the most of this last year was Miami Vice. That was a piece of *beep* For so long, Michael Mann has been one of the truly great auteurs in Hollywood cinema, but I also thought that Collateral was a sell-out piece of *beep* He was reeling from Ali, so he obviously wanted to make a movie with the biggest movie star in the world. So he gets the first script that comes along and it’s like a poor man’s Michael Mann script. Just so he can make a hit with Tom Cruise! So I thought, ‘Okay, he’ll get his *beep* together again on Miami Vice…’ [Gasps] Collateral is The Insider compared to Miami Vice! Miami Vice is one of the dumbest, most *beep*-up, most uninvolving, no chemistry, ugly looking movies I’ve EVER seen in my life! I just had such a big emotional feeling about that film! That movie looked like such *beep* That cinematographer [Oscar winning Aussie Dion Beebe] is so vastly untalented. I mean, that blue smeary *beep* Apparently ugly is the new black!”
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I could understand people who wanted more Hollywood action stuff being underwhelmed, but people HATED this movie with a passion. I really liked it, but then again I also enjoy the use of my legs which is apparently "so 90s".
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If thats true Sam Fulmer, then I have to give my man props for sticking to Mann like that. Miami Vice was one of my most anticipated films of last year, the end result was bullshit. That movie is what has me on the fence about HD cameras. But then again, Fincher kicked ass with Zodiac. But I do expect a return to greatness Mann. No man who made Heat should have made Miami Vice.
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A good argument well made sir. And Finding Neverland was very dull. That fits your original statement perfectly, he's good but the film's not.
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That would be an interesting an far less manic rebuttle.Hell, why not let Mann remake Death Proof and Quentin do his own Miami Vice flick? It could be an interesting "alternate version" deal.
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Dec 06, 2007 10:42:51 AM CST
Miami Vice was a gritty, deep undercover uneven masterpiece.
by gqtaste
Miami Vice was a gritty, deep undercover uneven masterpiece.
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Heat is amazing, Ali was amazing. Collatorall was a piece of shit with so many holes it could have been a whore house and Miami Vice was an incredible let down. The trailer had me hard. The film had me inverted. Who gave a shit about the characters?? Was there any relationship at all between the two main characters??? Oh and did anything happen at fuck all???
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I think you could get some pretty interesting movies that way. My boss had a good call the other day. He suggested Wes Anderson do the next James Bond flick. Sure, it'd probably be a trainwreck. But it'd be amazingly art-directed.
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Also, Once upon a time in Mexico. In fact, Depp is almost always good as a supporting actor.
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make it violent
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ever since Miami Vice, I really find myself not caring what he's been up to. I'll check this out, but I'm going to have the lowest of expectations even though he still has a great overall body of work.
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Bring me back to the Railroad track...oh wait, wrong Captain Jack...
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Let's get some facts straight. The Collateral script had been floating around Hollywood for about 10 years until Michael Mann picked it up. Most of the time (but not every time) a script that is floating around that long isn't worth a sh*t. So to this day it still befuddles me what Michael Mann saw in that script that no one else had the previous 10 years. Especially someone of Mann's caliber. Secondly, I think most people missed the point on Miami Vice. People generally complain there was no chemistry between Crocket and Tubbs. I tend to disagree. If you're expecting chemistry like the TV show, forget about it. It wouldn't work in the motion picture. The motion picture is portrayed in a very real life format. There's nothing real life about Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas's relationship in the TV version. Both Foxx and Farrell do show chemisty. But it is in subtle little moments like when Foxx reminds Farrell to not get so deep that he forgets which way is up. Remember that the Miami Vice shoot itself was completely hijacked by the fact that everything that could go wrong did, including multiple hurricanes. Therefore Mann was not able to shoot his full vision of the film.
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I think you're right about Miami Vice in that it was intended as a serious movie and not as a Starsky & Hutch style spoof on the 80s and some old show. Whether Mann got to film his complete vision or not, I don't know. If you something Mann intended to do with this film but couldn't because of hurricanes or whatever, please share.I kinda disagree with you on the idea that no director would touch Collateral because it was obviously "garbage". They don't make many movies like Collateral anymore, for the last ten years Hollywood has been writing movies around special effects sequences. Collateral had only old school action such as some shoot-outs and foot races. The Bourne movies are the only films I can think of from the last ten years to build entire successful films around this type of action with no big effects monsters or wire-fu or insane car stunts. And if you think Collateral is an incomprehensibly huge mis-step for an A list director, then gianormously collosal is the only term befitting Hannibal, A Good Year, The Terminal, Lady in the Water, Gangs of New York, Rollerball, Timeline, Authur and The Invisibles, and Death Proof.
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1.Thief 2.The Insider 3.Manhunter 4.Heat 5.Last of the Mohicans 6.Miami Vice 7.Collateral 8.Ali 9.The Keep
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Are you honestly suggesting that Depp isn't badass? He fought a bear on JumpStreet. Blam.
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For at least one movie. He's spent so much time quoting film history in his past couple of films, that I think he's lost sight of making a really good movie. I really don't get why he uses Ennio Morricone's old film scores in his films. Morricone is still alive. Why not get him to write a score? Quoting music from old movies like Blow Out and The Bird With the Crystal Plummage is just going to remind audiences of better films by better filmmakers.
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People who have actually seen Blow Out and The Bird With the Crystal Plumage.
Mann and Tarantino are interesting that they tend to deal with a lot of the same material, but they do it in two totally differnt styles. Mann is a modernist and Tarantino is a post-modernist. Mann treats violennce as something dirty, Tarantino usually (with the exception of Resevoir Dogs) treats violence as something humorous. -
Okay, so it hasn't got much to do with historical fact, but it does have have Robert Conrad, John Ashley and Mary Ann Mobley in their early days of acting and that makes it a guilty pelasure film. Also, John Hoyt as a lecherous doctor.
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With Martin Sheen as "John Dillinger" and F. Murray Abraham as "Al Capone." Hey, it was made by Roger Corman; what did you expect, "King Lear?"
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Some info on Miami Vice:
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A good read, I normally hate EW, but that was pretty good. I still like the film a lot, and I think most people's problems were the tone and the lack of action and humour, so even if Mann had got to film that South American minimall shootout ending and had Foxx on location for more Cuban stuff, the people who hated this film would've still hated it. But that was interesting.
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I liked it. A lot. And I know I'm not alone on that. "Miami Vice" on the other hand? Steaming horse shit. "No chemistry" is right. If the best example you can come up with is Tubbs telling Crockett not to get in too deep (yawn), I'm really not convinced.
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If you're expecting a heart to heart between Crockett and Tubbs in the movie version, that's not real. In real life, cops of Crockett and Tubbs' nature are hardcore people that have to play the game. The game is not overly involved "I care about you buddy" speeches or "this girl is no good for you" speeches. Real life is an occasional reminder that if your partner is getting too deep, "remember you're a cop, do your job". As for Collateral, there's nothing to the movie. If it wasn't for Tom Cruise starring and Jamie Foxx co-starring, this movie is straight to DVD material. There's nothing intriguing about this movie at all. It's like, ohhh Tom Cruise plays a killer. SO WHAT? The story sucks and has about THE most cliched ending ever. Which is exactly why this script was floating around Hollywood for about 10 years before it got picked up by Michael Mann.
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He's set to film 'Shantaram' next once that annoying strike is over, then 'Rum Diary'. So this would have to start filming in 2009 at the earliest.
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It's a history of the gangsters in that era, mostly in the midwest, and the early days of the FBI.
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Mann is probally the most overrated director the world has ever known, but still. I would much, much rather see Depp do Shantaram first.
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...That he has no desire to make HD look like film. But hes more than happy to make it look like unwatchable shit.
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Warners pulled the plug on Shantaram last month. This left a hole in Depp's schedule that gave Michael Mann an opportunity with Public Enemies. Michael Mann + Johnny Depp = Chicago 3/10/08. Watch out for the papparazzi. It'll be like last summer when Angelina Jolie was in town shooting that awful turd "Wanted."
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Collateral was just a good old school action movie. It was a plot driven movie, but I guess everybody wanted an intense character drama because it was Mann.Do people complain this way about Melville's Le Samourai? or Dirty Harry? or Bullit? I love all those movies, and feel they have enough character development to make them interesting, but they are plot-driven movies. Sure, I like a movie like Five Easy Pieces, but that's not what I want all the time.
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Sorry but to say people were expecting a spoof remake of Miami Vice and thatis why theydont like it is bollocks. Anyone that knows Manns work knows that wouldnt happen. The trailer for Miami Vice was awesome but the film was very dissapointing. Being a good looking film isnt enough. It was the perfect example of style over substance. Im now going to compare to a big mac. The advert makes it look tasty but overall it leaves a disatisfied taste in your mouth.
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I should have compared it to a McChicken sandwich. But then I would be doing the sandwich an injustice.
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Miami Vice was shit.
The Insider was gnarly but he was just the Prod on that.
Last of the Mochicans was even decent, but not enough so to deserve mention with the 'subjected' greats. -
This sounds like a good flick, but I was really looking forward to Shantaram. I hope it eventually gets back on track.
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