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Neil Marshall's post-apocalyptic actioneer DOOMSDAY has screened!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. DOOMSDAY, the next from THE DESCENT and DOG SOLDIERS' Neil Marshall, has screened before to some pretty bad reviews, but it looks like now they gathered up all the bitchy comment cards and are on to the next round of screenings after more tweaking. I saw a preview for this at Comic-Con and it was pretty cool looking. I hope it lives up to the promise of a hard-ass '80s style post-apocalyptic adventure story directed by Neil Marshall... the following review gives some credence to that hope. Enjoy!

Saw an early screening of Doomsday last night at the Pacific, the latest movie from Neil Marshall. I avoided early reviews, but after seeing it last night I went back and took a look. My sense is that the screening I attended was much refined compared to prior cuts. Or I simply had a different reaction from the other reviewers. I've been a genre fan for years, and I've been disappointed as the latest batch move further and further from the hands on sfx with gritty anti-heroes that I loved. Too many times I've watched mediocre movies trying to appeal to mainstream audiences (I've seen far too many potentially great movies murdered in cold blood by a PG-13 rating...) and the end result is just piss poor. I've liked all of Marshall's films so far. As a low budget horror movie, I thought Dog Soldiers was very cool (doesn’t get better then super-gluing a stomach back together...). The Descent is by far one of the finest horror movies of this decade. Now, Doomsday.. When this movie gets going, it doesn't stop. The strength of this movie is that it doesn’t pretend to be anything but a genre movie that harkens back to the classics of the 80’s. The most obvious is Escape from NY where Carpenter, as he'd done in so many of his films, redefined the idea of a classic western figure (a la Precinct 13, Big Trouble in Little China, and a personal guilty pleasure...They Live) struggling against a modern or futuristic backdrop. I'm not going to jump into a synopsis here as it's just better for you to go into this movie without knowing what's coming next...all I can say is that this movie is fuckin-a all out of bubblegum. Yes, this film has some problems. They told us the movie wasn’t finished yet, but it seemed pretty close. It takes a little too long to get into the action and the score was very familiar to me in several spots (music from 28 Weeks Later even popped up once). Sometimes the stylistic mish-mash was overwhelming too, but I loved it. What is this film? It's really hard to categorize and you can't really pin it down. It has action, scares, humor and a very hot Rhona Mitra. The shitty reviews I'd read made me think this was going to be another virus/plague movie, but Dday isn’t a virus movie. Thankfully it’s an action movie, the kind we haven't seen in a long time. It’s a movie made by a guy who loves the same movies I do. It’s a movie for fans made by a fan. If you post this, my alias is swervnslyde. Cheers.

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  • Dec. 6, 2007, 12:34 a.m. CST

    The Descent is one of the worst...

    by TheEnemy8

    horror movies of this decade! This review means nothing because this guy thinks The Descent was worth watching.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 12:35 a.m. CST

    The Descent was worth watching....

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    ...you're just an asshole. :P

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Do we even need to say the P word anymore?...

    by bralli

    ....

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Really liked Marshall's last film.

    by LoneGun

    THE DESCENT was pretty gripping throughout, though the ending was kind of strange. Overall, nicely directed. Of course, I am a huge fan of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK. We've ridden on a pretty good wave of horror flicks this year, I think. Just saw THE MIST, another excellent addition to the genre. I hope DOOMSDAY will be another.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Saw it too..

    by jmike9243

    Glad to see someone agrees with me. Saw it last month at a screening. If you like Marshall, you will like this movie, If not don't see it.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 1:28 a.m. CST

    ive made a few posts today..

    by soup74

    that i usually dont do. like here, im gonna go ahead and begrudgingly call "plant." only because he says he was told that the movie isnt completely finished, and then one of his only gripes is that the score sounded familiar. (it even used music from 28 days later!) <br> <br>of course everyone that comes to this site would know thats a temp track, and you know that too, mr reviewer. it seems like a pretty obvious 'negative-yet-not-really-a-negative' way of making the review not all positive.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 1:36 a.m. CST

    People who call "plant!"

    by VegasRon

    are fucking morons.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST

    the descent was visually iventive

    by BadMrWonka

    but just laughably bad in terms of the plot, dialogue, acting...basically everything else...just because the cookie cutter horror movie characters were all women, they were still boring and unrealistic...truly a really bad movie masquerading as something more...<p>if this is more of the same, I'll pass...

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 1:56 a.m. CST

    vegasron..

    by soup74

    i usually dont call "plant" as it tends to get annoying (it seems whenever someone actually likes a movie, everyone jumps on them for being a plant.) however, i gave a good reason for why i have my suspicions with this review. <br> <br> also, eat a dick.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2 a.m. CST

    People who call plant are nothing but fucking loser sheep

    by bongo123

    bandwagon jumpers of the lowest denominator.. oh this is whats cool to say this week... fucking plant! arseholes..

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Worst. Review. Ever.

    by xannibal

    I could have wrote this based on what's at IMDB.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:01 a.m. CST

    And Neil Marshall is fucking great btw

    by bongo123

    leave it to the brits to come up with original watchable low budget horror and not the straight to bottom shelf video crap you 'mericans produce

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:08 a.m. CST

    The Descent

    by prbt

    was screamingly average, nothing to get worked up about one way or the other.<p>'Cept surely the creatures were supposed to be scary, not laugh-out-loud, "you-got-to-be-kidding-me" awful..? What's frightening about people going to a Lord Of The Rings fancy-dress party?

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:08 a.m. CST

    but was it awesome?

    by repligin

    i find my standards for reviews have been heightened unrealistically since clover field. my ideal review uses the word awesome. it also has only one line, because any review which makes you move your eyes back to the left hand side of the page is a review thats mincing its words.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:14 a.m. CST

    good review

    by Bob10h

    Did anyone really want to read another word for word description of this movie? Glad this was short and to the point, i'm there.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Mr Saxon - You fail.

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    Sorry bud but if you can't see the greatness of The Descent then I can't trust 90% of whatever other views you have. The Descent was a great movie and it was more than 'an hour of stupid women running around a cave before being eaten by cavemen'. It was an exercise in tension and dread. The women were far from stupid in that movie which is what made them believable, and it was scarier than about 98% of the other horror movies which came out that year or even the year before. I can accept that you might not like Dog Soldiers although it was such a fun movie that I wonder what it takes to entertain you.<p>Marshall is a force to be reckoned with - he's the director I'd hire if I wanted to make a good horror movie and, by the sounds of it, he's about to bring back the eighties Apocalypse movie. Who the frak doesn't like Mad Max?

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:37 a.m. CST

    The Descent rocks..

    by Knockout Ned

    especially with the proper UK ending. Doomsday looks to be coming along nice.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Marshall Rocks - Its simple

    by MatDGZ

    He has hardly any £ and makes it go all the way. He's a great writer - I defy anyone who says the script in Dog Soldiers was amazingly funny. Though most American's probably didn't get half of it... The Decent was more US friendly and I think that made a little sheepish, but I still enjoyed it. Eli Roth could learn a thing or two from Marshall. Marshall is still making his lead up films, one day he will do something truly amazing, like Carpenter did with The Thing. I look forward to Doomsday.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:40 a.m. CST

    Oops...

    by MatDGZ

    I defy anyone who says the script in Dog Soldiers WASN'T amazing...come on - its like 8am here...

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 2:43 a.m. CST

    The Descent was great

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Simple film-making, perfectly structured and edited. And none of that shitty MTV editing so beloved of most horror directors today.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Jarv...Another Alien Film??? WTF BOOM

    by redfist

    I hope that 20th Century Assrape just lets it die. AvP2 should be a nice little death song...more like a death whimper.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Great, sounds this uber-exploitation-mashup has hit the mark

    by KillaKane

    Was hoping that the initial negative reviews would give way to positives after further editiorial refinement and post. Really looking forward to this, Marshall is in a league of his own, Brit geeks have championed him as a promising genre director in the mould of Carpenter et Al. Doomsday sounds like a geeky potboiler of Mad Max 2, EFNY, No Escape, Precinct 13 and Fulci's Contagion, I'm sure there are a myriad number of references in there for fans to pick-up on.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Hostel2 better than Descent???

    by Fortunesfool

    Ha, Haaa. Jeez. You're funny.That cheered me up. Nice one, guy who clearly hasn't seen enough films and knows nothing about how to put together a good one.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:36 a.m. CST

    It's "has BEEN screened"

    by random dude

    How can a movie screen itself? Respect the language, fuckers.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:42 a.m. CST

    The descent was great

    by Berbs

    It started off very badly and got worse with some sh#te, TV soap level acting. When they got in the cave though...... scares, violence, humour. I had a great time. Hostel 2 was just a bad remake of an average film. Not fact, just my opinion. Oh, and what the hell is going on with that Eli Roth trailer film? It's a pretty fun idea, but box office turkey or straight to DVD? Take your pick.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:50 a.m. CST

    Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda

    by Dr Uwe Boll

    I keep waiting for Marshall to make a film that wholly works and I'll keep on watching regardless of reviews but... "The Descent is by far one of the finest horror movies of this decade." - Maybe, but if that were the case it simply proves that the last decade has been a truly shithouse one for horror. Hostel 2 comes alive in the last 30 minutes but yeah, it is a meh remake of a not so spectacular (but not too bad) film (seeing Matarazzo die in 2 was the highlight). I thought a lot of Descent looked a lot like an overblown episode of X Files (with all the faults and qualities you could find therein).

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 4:27 a.m. CST

    WHAT?????

    by EdmundoDupont

    What are you people talking about? The Descent was a damn fine horror film full of scares, atmosphere and tension. Furthermore, it was an absolute breath of fresh air to see a fright-flick that relied on deft filmmaking rather than naked women being killed in the most graphic and grotesque ways imaginable. Sure, films like 'Hostel' make you recoil in horror... but that's because they're fucking horrific - not scary. It's hard not to have a visceral reaction to a film when they're making you look at fucking viscera. The Descent was a genuinely creepy film that didn't wholly rely on gore and that's why I place it above all the bloody abominations that are being churned out by Hollywood hacks. Seriously, I'd hate to meet the script-shiters that dredge up these atrocities... luckily, I probably will never be afforded that opportunity seeing as, in all likelihood, they're all holed up in their mum's basement, jerking off to 2 girls 1 cup.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Marshall is already on the level of early John Carpenter...

    by Messiahman

    Both DOG SOLDIERS and THE DESCENT were stellar films, marking the emergence of one of the best genre directors in at least twenty years. Marshall is the real deal, and those two films alone are already on their way to well-deserved classic status. Frankly, I question the taste of anyone who claims they "suck." Indeed, it would seem that the only taste these folks have is in their mouths.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 5:16 a.m. CST

    The Descent owns.

    by palewook

    If you think it sucks, go watch some michael bay shit and think you know what you are talking about. <p> Looking forward to DDay. Marshall makes movies for dudes. if you don't like his stuff, go watch some lifetime.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Litmus test for life.

    by DocPazuzu

    Seriously, if anyone says they hated The Descent or didn't find the original BBC The Office to be funny, I will have nothing to do with them since their critical thinking and severly crippled mental faculties make them impossible to trust. <p> I've put this to the test myself, and in every case these people have turned out to be shallow, uninteresting, dull and possibly perverted individuals.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 7:01 a.m. CST

    "standard missionary fuck with the lights off"

    by DocPazuzu

    That IS perverted!

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 7:12 a.m. CST

    "I add League of Gentlemen to that litmus test"

    by DocPazuzu

    Err... in the correct manner, I hope.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Holy crap!

    by radio1_mike

    The guy who DOG SOLDIERS made THE DESCENT? Holy crap! DS was a total delight to watch, so much so that I even bought it. TD was awesome. I like everything about it. And now he's doing my favorite genre, end-of-the-world? Shit. I may just have to beat off after posting this message.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 7:13 a.m. CST

    re M-O-M...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...He fails at everything else, so it's okay.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Comparing Descent to Hostel is embarrassing

    by cowboyone

    It's a generational divide. The wizened, older generation of real horror fans (Descent) as opposed to the juvenile new-gen torture porn fans.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Would anyone like some veggies with their omlet?

    by Turd Furgeson

    this morning??? I can get some off this PLANT...

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Creep!

    by DocPazuzu

    What shit! It's like the anti-Descent. Also starring that wanker from the Natalie Imbruglia video.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Those of you dissing The Descent...

    by Billy The Fish

    ...must be American teenagers, right? What's the matter - not comfortable with ballsy women characters? Not enough silicon-titted airheads getting slashed up for your taste? Or is it that your in-built attention defecit disorders can't let you deal with having to follow a plot where there isn't a telegraphed jump-scare every five minutes? Marshall rocks, and Rhona Mitra (the REAL Lara Croft) deserves her crack at the big time. Doomsday - bring it on!

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 8:08 a.m. CST

    *Pokes hand up and whispers* I liked SHROOMS...

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    I'm not saying it's the best movie I've ever seen or even a great horror movie but I enjoyed the ride. Yeah, the acting was a bit sloppy, it didn't need to be set in Ireland, and the ending was highly derivative of a far superior movie... but I still liked it. It was nicely directed, the bad guy was pretty awesome and it held my attention. I'd rather watch SHROOMS again than HOSTEL.<p>Sue me.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 8:09 a.m. CST

    "deserves her crack at the big time."

    by DocPazuzu

    Indeed she does, almost as much as I deserve her crack, big time.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by DocPazuzu

    Kloipy found the Lep box set!

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Ha! Your region codes...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...are as the buzzing of flies to me.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Um, many people loved The Descent Enemy9

    by Frank Black

    Your statement should read "I didn't like the Descent" because your opinion is subjective and the fact is no one is qualified to state the quality of art because it varies from person to person. I LOVED The Descent! See, but that is just my opinion.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 8:47 a.m. CST

    The descent....

    by Madrizzle

    ...was horrible. never understood why it gets so much acclaim by horror fans. weak plot, weak acting, weak "monsters", weak ending....just bad bad bad....the same as every other horror released that year imo. as for dog soldiers. seriously. shame on you guys for liking that half baked steaming piece of shit. Bring back phantasm i say. no-ones made a decent horror movie for years now. its pitiful.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 8:50 a.m. CST

    No, I don't...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...but in R2 land, just the same. Still, no matter where I'm living at any given time, I am never without a region free PAL/NTSC DVD player.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Madrizzle...

    by Frank Black

    You almost discredited yourself but then you name-dropped Phantasm and showed you appreciate the good stuff. The Descent wasn't bad but I can see how you wouldn't like it if you were starving for some sweet flying orbs!!! Peace!

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 10:35 a.m. CST

    That's Just PLANTASICT!!!!!

    by Bill Brasky

    Here's to Bill Brasky!!!

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Neil Marshall - The new Carpenter.

    by Christopher3

    I hereby annoint thee.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    People, calling "The Descent" poor...

    by joergn

    are just a bunch of idiots, having no taste in good movies or whatsoever. "The Descent" wasn´t original (which one is nowadays), but I was well directed, had a strong cast and delivered the chills and thrills. The Rest of you...keep watching remake-shit like TCM, Hitcher and whatever and leave the good stuff, who know what the are dealing with, suckers!

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 10:45 a.m. CST

    And BTW,

    by joergn

    the ending (of "The Descent" was just perfect! Unless you´ve seen the ballless Happy-Ending version for the US-audience!

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    TheEnemy responds:

    by TheEnemy8

    No. The Descent was crap and belongs with all the other crappy horror stuff we've seen. The acting was okay but not at all good, the writing/dialogue was awful, the monsters were meh, the story was meh, the motivations of the characters were meh. And I hate, HATE that it took an HOUR to see the first monster. That's fucking stupid. We didn't need that long to get to know these lame 2D characters. I'll give it this though: the fact that it's in a cave is awesome and there is some good cinematography inside of the cave. I'll give it that but just that.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Still looking forward to Doomsday.

    by Fist Dirtbox

    Dog Soldiers was great fun, The Descent was intense and scary so I'm hoping Marshall can keep up the good work. Kinda suprised people are still pissing and moaning about Creep. Its uneven, and has an oddly unsympathetic protagonist in the normally reliable Potente, but its far from bottom-of-the-barrel as far as low budget Brit horrors go. Smith seems to be improving also, as his follow-up Severance was a lot better all round.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    BIG MISTAKE IN THAT PLANT REVIEW

    by Ray Gamma

    FIRST HE SAYS HE WENT IN HAVING NOT READ ANY REVIEWS, THEN LATER HE SAYS HE'D EXPECTED IT TO BE A BAD MOVIE BASED ON THE SHITTY REVIEWS HE'D READ. </P> <P> YOU FUCKING LIAR. YOU MADE THE WHOLE THING UP. PLANT CUNT.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST

    TheEnemy8

    by pdennett316

    Please tell me, what would you consider to be a well acted and well written horror movie? I only ask because your criticisms fall blatantly into the camp of "didn't get it, so trashes it because it makes him feel stupid". The motivations of the characters were fine and dandy, the acting was extremely good because it felt natural - not OTT screaming and yowling while trying to ensure the camera gets their best sides, but actual, honest to bollocks, makes you do stupid shit in order to survive terror. Marshall has a talent seemingly lost on a huge portion of directors nowadays - making a horror movie scary. And not just with loud booming noises over the soundtrack either. I know everyones tastes are different, and there's no accounting for them, but bloody hell man!!! PS, Dog Soldiers was fantastic, end of story. "I hope I give you the shits you fucking wimp!!"

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Oh, also

    by pdennett316

    This Doomsday sounds grand, looking forward to Marshall making it 3 out of 3.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Eli Roth = shit for brains

    by m_prevette

    Anyone who likes anything by Eli Roth has taste for shit. The guy is the biggest no-talent shit for brains hack to make it in Hollywood in some time. Cabin Fever is the WORST pile of steaming shit I've ever seen. Don't even get started on the torture porn he's cranked out since then. He has no idea - at all - how to make a horror film. He's a fanboy with a camera. That's all. His career will go belly up soon. But not soon enough.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Quint, were you drunk...

    by DannyOcean01

    When you uploaded this review? Biggest plant ever. I mean ffs, how many mediocre reviews have we had for this film, and ooops, along comes this one. Good grief man.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST

    you take this seriously I see

    by metaluna

    A monkey can direct a horror movie. In fact, they do all the time. Witness Uwe Boll, Paul Andersen, Neil Marshall... whats the name of that fuckwit heavy metal singer? Oh I dunno but he's shit too. Anyway. These things are not to be taken seriously kids. They say nothing of life. Nothing. So why care? It's bargain basement stuff no one will remember in 10 years time. You are the new Carpenter? Jesus, what an accolade.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Not a plant, just a shit review

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    What the fuck does this mean: "it’s an action movie, the kind we haven't seen in a long time. It’s a movie made by a guy who loves the same movies I do. It’s a movie for fans made by a fan." Thanks, that tells me jack shit about what this movie is about.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Hostel 2

    by brucecampbell

    Much better than people give it credit for. But the Descent is easily better.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 7:55 p.m. CST

    What the fuck...?

    by VegasRon

    When did it become cool to slam Dog Soldiers and The Descent?<p> Someone mentioned litmus test. Hell yes, for sterilization and the right to render your feeble ass opinions online or in any forum ever again. Get off Roth and Zombie's ballsacks, you fucking morons.

  • Dec. 6, 2007, 9:37 p.m. CST

    The Descent

    by mrbonefish

    was a great flick. The haters are just assholes. Simple as that.

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Why the Descent bugs me...

    by TheEnemy8

    Although it has some merit (like when she jams that tool through her friends throat) it suffers from common bad movie formula and cliches. like, big time. it has the lame scares and music cues and just didn't deliver. The scariest narrative I saw this year was Death Proof. That shit was just TENSE. TENSE. that felt more real (i guess, more amazing) that anything in the descent.

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 1:37 a.m. CST

    neither Dog Soldiers nor Descent sell this to me, BUT...

    by Maniaq

    all the right Carpenter flicks were mentioned (except The Thing!) and They Live is also a personal favourite of mine AND I do miss the post apocalyptic pulp fiction that was killed off by the likes of BladeRunner in the mid eighties... <br> <br> Dog Soldiers was just one werewolf movie too many in a long line of tired old cliche'd werewolf movies and there's no way I'm sitting through a two hour Descent into nuthin but oestrogen - but THIS I could really sink my teeth into! <br> <br> swerv, just tell me one thing - what was your opinion of one of my all time favourite of the genre - Damnation Alley? <br> <br> yer, I know that's gonna attract a few flames, but I never said it was a GOOD genre, just that I liked it!

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Damnation Alley...

    by VegasRon

    ...was awesome when I was 12.<p> Not so much as an adult.<p> Your critiques of both Dog Soldiers and The Descent tell me either you didn't see either flick or are, in fact, a 12-year-old.

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 2:54 a.m. CST

    by Dr Uwe Boll

    Apparently you're either 12, obsessed with torture porn or hate horror movies if you don't like The Descent. I did like Dog Soldiers (hokey fun) but it's hardly a classic. Marshall is OK but not a great Director. Reflecting on the comparisons with Carpenter I can see it - if you think Dark Star/Assault (two films I like) - but not Halloween or The Thing (Nothing Marshall has ever directed has even come close - will ever come close). And now, apparently he's doing his "Escape". More power to him - seriously - but just don't give me the pious bullshit about Marshall being "great" or how his films represent some "intelligent alternative" to torture porn (what a fucking load of shite - Descent is full of $1.50 gore effects). As a filmmaker he's no Friedkin (he's not even at the Sorcerer level - seriously - watch it and learn how to make a bad good film), he doesn't have the raw edge of a TCM era Tobe Hooper (he doesn't have Carpenters ingenuity either folks), he sure as hell aint no Cronenberg, and his films aren't half the mindfuck grand old man Kubrik's were - and I'm sure (if I could be bothered getting up and looking at my DVD's) that I could come up with many more. He does love what he makes (clearly) and he has a passion for it, in Dog Soldiers that passion more than makes up for the fucked (yes I said "fucked") acting/script writing and BBC TV level camera work/cinematography. In the Descent he took Veronica Cartwrights character in Alien and made a whole fucking film filled with women just like her - screaming females do not constitute "strong" female characters - please see in no particular order: Klute, Silence of the Lambs, Aliens, Kill Bill etc. Enough'a my bitchin'. And the "original" ending only adds depth if you're unfamiliar with "twist" concepts as used by a TV show "us" old timers loved called The Fucking Twilight Zone. Flame Away!

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by Dr Uwe Boll

    All good points. Descent was moody and atmospheric and yep, it could certainly function without its slimier moments which a film like Hostel could most certainly not. I do think Marshall could have given us significantly more character development in Descent and that lack (in my mind) is one of the films weakest elements. Regardless, I wish Marshall all the best (he's an individual talent whose films stand out) and I'll be plunking down my cashola to check out DD and whatever film he produces next.

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 3:44 a.m. CST

    "Death Proof...felt more real...than anything in The Descent"

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    I'm so glad that we aren't friends Enemy8 or we would have tons of arguments and end up killing each other. I won't start on my disappointment with Death Proof here, but I will say that the whole movie was NOWHERE near as intense or frightening as The Descent. If it was a person, it would shining The Descent's shoes.

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 4:28 a.m. CST

    LOL

    by Dr Uwe Boll

    Best horror film of the 21st Century so far, lol. Ok, hands down you win on that one. If anyone knows where and when Doomsday will first screen they seem to be keeping it pretty quiet (I've read May but no location) - there's not even a hint at the distributors site. I'd imagine UK will see it first though.

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 4:56 a.m. CST

    Creep

    by Dr Uwe Boll

    Haven't seen Creep (or Severance) yet. I will though and I'm sure when I do they'll be as wretched as talkbackers suggest. It may embolden you somewhat to know that I actually do have a bona fide copy of Descent (the version lacking the commentary sadly) and Dog Soldiers (the version with - including Marshalls great pub-set short film). I can always slap it on to do a scene by scene comparison - but yeah, I'm sure Marshall will outclass Creep (how can you fuck up a horror film set in the underground???).

  • Dec. 7, 2007, 8:22 a.m. CST

    M-O-M you fucking asshole.

    by DocPazuzu

    For all the reasons Jarv just mentioned. Could it possibly be that you just don't understand how offensive you are? Is it an Asperger's thing or something? Or is it just a matter of you being a complete shit? I'm starting to lean more and more towards you simply being a shit. Or a cunt. As it were.

  • Dec. 8, 2007, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Escape From New York Remake...

    by DC Films

    could be directed by Marshall - he'd be far better than the names attached so far. I'd like to see him use Kevin McKidd (Rome, Dog Soldiers) as Snake - a different look, but that might be a good thing - and he's definately bad-ass enough. Failing that Marshall should hire Josh Brolin for the job. BTW, i'm looking forward to D'day!