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Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
This is interesting, and it plays into something we’ve been saying for a little while here at AICN. We broke the story earlier this year that Sam Jackson will appear in IRON MAN as Nick Fury. I heard from a completely different source that there might be a similar scene in THE INCREDIBLE HULK, something that was added late in the process. Could it be that Marvel’s going to set up their eventual AVENGERS movie by connecting all these movies up via one character who approaches each of these heroes separately?
I’m not sure there really is a second Nick Fury appearance. But when I got this e-mail (edited a bit to protect the spy) today, it made me wonder anew... just how closely related are these worlds all going to be? I like this possible way of doing it far more than Warner’s proposed out-of-continuity JUSTICE LEAGUE film.
Anyway... check this out, grain of salt included unless we can verify it soon:
There are some fuzzy politics going on with the Iron Man and Hulk movies - they're shooting a scene TOGETHER! The trouble is, I can't tell if its an Iron Man scene with the Hulk in in or a Hulk scene with IRON MAN in it, more interestingly, it's possible that the SAME SCENE or some variation of it might be in BOTH movies lending to the comic book / single universe, many heroes idea seen in the past - uber cool.
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Everyone will be so proud! I'm not holding out to much hope for IRONMAN. Jon Favrau is only mediocre.
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And Tasties :)
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At least I can count!!
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I always thought that was cool.
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So would they actually get Downey and Norton to do it?
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sweet.
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Samuel Jackson=Muther Fucker
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He was the ultimate Fury. So sexy.
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So Jackson will be playing Fury in both movies possibly? I wish they'd done the same with Ben Urich in Spider-man and Daredevil.
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No Hasselhoff was the Regular Fury. Samuel L. Jackson is the Ultimate Fury. :D
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Alas, Warner Bros/DC only lets it's heroes mingle on Smallville.
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Technically, Sam Jackson has been the 'Ultimate Fury' for some years now. ;^)
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cool
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I have no idea what/who the hell a Nick Fury is, and Kurt Russell was not there when I looked to the left, so...
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Note in particular the 'Ultimate Nick Fury' version of the character.However what's awesome is not (or not just) the inclusion of the character in these films, but what it implies: specifically that the films take place in the same shared universe and the possibility exists for a film to be made based on the Avengers, a team formed (classically) of Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, The Hulk, and slight more obscure characters like Ant-Man and the Wasp.
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since their characters are the property of several studios. WB has it made but they've yet to capitalize on it. there seem to be way too many restrictions about what you can do with WB characters.
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The Avengers film is not just a possibility, but is on Marvel's slate of upcoming films. The exciting bit is the possibility that the characters in it will be played by the same actors as in their own respective films, and in the same continuity. An Avengers film with Sam Jackson as Nick Fury, Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man and Ed Norton as the Hulk is an exciting prospect! :^)
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How fucking cool would this be?
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I'm really psyched for both of these movies, but I just hope Iron Man gets the box office numbers they need for a sequel.
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It makes no sense that WB, which owns DC whole, couldn't do this, but Marvel can. DC really needs to be spun off into a different company.
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koo koo ka choo
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I think the bigger question mark will be the Hulk. Will people associate it with Lee's Hulk or will a trailer make people all giddy to see it?
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The final scene in a movie appears in this film, True believer.
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NEXTWAVE: AGENTS OF H.A.T.E.: THE MOVIE!
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out of principle if nothing else. But tough to believe that they would do something so right, so probably a false rumor.
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...that this Iron Man flick is the shit because I have been nothing but let down by Spiderman and the rest of these comic movies. Damn I gotta fire one up...brb
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Dec 04, 2007 8:29:00 AM CST
Wake me up when there's a Marvel movie worth seeing again...
by sledge hammer
...Hopefully that'll happen with Iron Man, and maybe, just maybe, even Hulk and Punisher could turn out worthwhile (both are pretty well cast, but who knows beyond that). Wait and see I guess.
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(yeah, that's a hefty big "but") this idea needs a damn fine execution, not a throwaway quickie scene at the end of the movie. If the Hulk appeared for no reason whatsoever at the end of Iron Man, I would be in "What The Fuck? mode" and I doubt it would bring anything more than confusion. Wait and see.
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..Ok i'm back. Like I was saying, I hope these movies are good.
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Not a fan of it.
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That had a really surprising cross-over at the end. IT WAS AWESOME!
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Gotta put this quote in the movie! -Stark
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Dec 04, 2007 8:53:02 AM CST
Cost Preventative unless rest of Avengers are unknowns
by shiftyeyeddog2
If they take all the stars of the single movies and try to put them together, it would be far too expensive to make. So unless its Downey Jr, Norton, MAYBE whomever plays Cap'n Crunch....er, America, and then all unknowns or b-listers, then I don't see it happening.Big star ensembles just dont happen much anymore, thanks to skyrocketing salaries. Something like the Ocean's movies only works because the actors agree to work for a fraction of their salaries. I dont see them doing that for a comic blockbuster.
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You all probably commented this to death when it first broke that Jackson was Nick Fury, but I need to get this out. WTF?! Is it so hard to find a white, middle-aged, physically fit actor and throw an eye patch on him? I'm all for alternative casting, and a black Kingpin was fine by me, but if you're going to cast against the traditional type for well-known characters, at what point do you start to alienate the fan base?
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You know the type. They make something up and submit it to movie news sites. Why? Just to hoax people? In the vain hope that the studios will read it and use their idea? I don't get it. Be neat if it was true, though
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Bring back the Hoff's Nick Fury!
Bring back the Hoff's Nick Fury!.
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For some reason this has to get mentioned 18 times in every Sam Jackson/Nick Fury article, but they're going with Ultimate Nick Fury, a version of the character from a different universe than the one you're used to. Which is fine, since the movies are, in fanboy terms, technically a different universe from anything in the comics anyway.
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Not a fan of Ultimate Nick Fury, which is just Sam Jackson being Sam Jackson only with an eyepatch.
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Not that IRON MAN isn't going to be a good movie (hopefully) but I have more faith in this HULK adaption. If Norton's done as well as I think he has, we could be in for a real treat.
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Both flicks having an after-credits cookie? I think that would make sense.
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They got the wrong writer from Good Will Hunting to star in that one.
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They just looked like more of the same crap MARVEL's been putting out over the past 10 years.
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Apparently, there's more than meets the eye here...
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Like Spider-Man 2 or X-Men 2? Okay, you got me, the rest were crap, but those two (and even their first installments) were great. Stay away from the FF movies though. The second one is only bearable because you know it's going to be bad and it has a silver guy in it.
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While the FF movies really do blow big wads of suckiness...at least they had Alba in it and the Silver guy like Heathen mentioned, and some sort of action. Ghostrider wasn't even bad in a good way, it was just horrendous (sorry Franklin T. Marmoset, wherever you are) with possibly the lamest 'action' scenes ever. At the very least, the dumbest villains ever.
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You are right - X2 and S2 were good. Although, I can't seem to re-watch any Spidey movies like I can X2.
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Assuming of course that both Hulk and Iron Man are good movies and successful enough for a Suit to have the balls to ok the budget for an Avengers movie and they manage to get the right creative team to put the whole thing together. Superhero team ups can be awesome but lots of superheros can be messy storytelling.
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Hope you're paying attention DC. The american public is way dumb when it comes to remembering who's who in the movie world. I know people who can't tell the difference between The Flash and Flash Gordon so 2 different Batmans at the same time will really mess them up.
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Captain America - Matt Damon /// Thor - Kevin McKidd /// Wasp - Lucy Liu /// AntMan - Owen Wilson /// Hawkeye - Jason Statham
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Dec 04, 2007 11:19:17 AM CST
Hard to believe Ed Norton would appear in an Avengers movie
by wonderboys
Same for Robert Downey Jr. dont you think?
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Hollywood having an original, and clever idea??? What planet are you from?
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the culture of movies has changed, these big blockbusters make the money. not the stars. Downey jr, norton would return and it wouldn't be because they are so important to it.
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True, but the actors still think they are.
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Norton or Downey were going to be in a semi restart of Hulk and Iron Man myself, so an Avengers movie with them in it doesn't sound too insanely impossible, just insanely impossible.
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Build a shared history with the characters, while working towards a HUGE flick that includes them all.
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The Iron man vs. Hulk run by Bob Layton and Dave Micheline in the early 80's of Iron Man was one of the coolest showdowns in marvel history. When Tony channels all his suits power into his fist for a uber knockout punch he lays the Hulk out cold. Something no other Marvel character can claim. Cap showing up would be quite cool as well. And please no fucking retarded Wolverine cameo. The idea that Wolverine could last two minutes with the Hulk in comics is laughable enough. Don't need to see the hollywood Calvin Klein pretty version of Wolverine showing up in any fashion in Hulk or Iron Man.
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Dec 04, 2007 12:22:19 PM CST
Funny, a movie featuring something the comics haven't done in ye
by reel american hero
This would be really cool if it turns out to be true. That's the one thing I never bought about the Marvel flicks thus far, that in each movie, the titular superhero is the ONLY superhero in that entire universe. That's almost as unbelievable as movie Spider-Man just swinging around beating up muggers and everyday criminals in between flicks. At least that's how the movies would lead you to believe he spends his time. -
Seriously, I was expecting nothing but I had a lot of fun. Cage was hilarious and the effects were awesome.
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Hulk, Sub-Mariner, Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer movies are all coming out at about the same time frames.
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I couldn't even view it from a comedic angle. thelordofhell, I liked the Defenders. Who else was in it? Wasn't there Dark Hawk or something like that?Feathers on the ankles are so 21st century now!
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to build various Marvel-owned franchises towards an Avengers film would be awesome. I only wish they were also going the Ultimates route with Vaughan's Thor film, where we don't know at first that Thor is an actual god, or a guy losing his mind. But it seems like that film's going full on Asgard, which is a mistake. The thing that separates Marvel's Thor from other sword and sandals epics is Donald Blake and the New York connection. on another note, as mediocre as Ghost Rider was, it still worked in a nice 70s era way and was pretty fun, whereas Fantastic Four ruined a)one of the single greatest comics stories ever (coming of Galactus) and b) the best Marvel villain ever (Doom). Those 2 sins are truly unforgivable. You can go further with a Ghost Rider story and improve things, but the FF movies are only ever going be saddled with a bad concept, bad cast (especially Doom) and a bad director, though maybe a new director can salvage a few things.
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When I was a kid, that was my favorite group, not Avengers or X-Men. Mostly because they were so, well, strange. They also had Valkyrie, Hellcat, and I think Gargoyle at one point.
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I know I'll be called a Racist for this...but I don't beleive in Political correctness! I'm a Nick Fury Fan plain & simple...I want to see Nick in His OWN Movie, starting in WW2 DAMMIT! I HATE this ULTIMATE Crap!
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that these were the first of 3 in an epic saga (between the 2, 6 movies!) so perhaps, this filming is a cameo wuth more to follow? that would be hot-shit but it's hard to trust in Hollywood's wisdom.
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Dec 04, 2007 2:01:33 PM CST
Ultimate Nick Fury makes 616 Fury his bitch. Simple, really.
by tallboy66
Screw the old, drug addicted communist hating fucker, Ultimate Nick Fury is the supremeo badass of the Fury and Sam Jackson is where it's at, fuckers. Ult. Nick Fury fought a goddamn war against superpowered terrorists and viking monsters WITH HIS ARM BLOWN OFF! One arm! That's it! Fuck that shrivled old man, Ult. Nick Fury rules!
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That's a pretty cool idea. I hope they do it and there is a lot of continuity between the 2 movies. Now, let's do a re-boot of Daredevil and FF and we'll be good...
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Dec 04, 2007 2:41:59 PM CST
I also wouldn't mind seeing a Damage Control project
by reel american hero
Either movie or tv series. That comic was hilarious back in the day. It was about the company that does the repairs for all the superhero battles in NYC. -
I want to see this on screen. Also, any Marvel Zombies love? anyone?
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please elaborate on the connection betw Jackie Brown and Out of Sight to which you eluded above...thx!
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The character played by Michael Keaton, FBI Agent(ATF?) Ray Nicolette, is in both films.
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ATF. The character is a member of the ATF.
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Anyone remember Scud: The Disposable Assassin? My older brother had that collection, but my dog ate it. Still feel bad about that.
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thought it was some connection between Sam Jackson's characters in the two movies, but i couldn't figger it...
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you are actually correct in both ATF and FBI, Nicolette was an ATF agent during the events of Jackie Brown/Rum Punch and was an FBI agent in Out of SightI really do like it when authors/movies connect their universes, it should be done more often. I don't think it would have been too much to have Ben Ulrich in any of the Spidermans played by Joey Pants or a mention of the Kingpin being in jail (Avi does seem to like DD based on his and MSJ commentary on the vastly improved but still not perfect DD:DC) or the X-Men being mentioned or heck even talk of Senator Kelly, I guess they could get away without mentioning the X-Men because it took place in a "not to distant future" or "a few years from now" or something like that according to X1. It's an irritant when you're watcing a superhero movie and all the cops are like "whoa have never seen that before" and it's a nice treat when mentioning another hero in that universe (DC/WB tries God bless em with a mention of Metropolis in Batman or Gotham in Superman movies, but they can't seem to nail it perfect *coughJusticeLeaguemovienoBalenoRouthcough*
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Because he is the one and only true Fury.
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hopefully not ang lee
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in a drunken stupor while being videotaped eating a hamburger off the floor. Stick to that lame ass American Idol wannabee. And for the record; that Nick Fury TV movie makes Daredevil and Ghost Rider look like the first two Superman movies. SJ all the muthafuckin way!
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Dec 04, 2007 6:43:22 PM CST
Groovy only if you're a suck-ass writer of ULTIMATE IRON MAN the
by monkey_king
...a writer who doesn't stick to current Marvel continuity and plans on ruining the new HULK film and making it part of the sorry-as-all-Hell ULTIMATE Universe. God help Marvel. I'll wait for the next SUPERMAN, BATMAN or JUSTICE LEAGUE film instead. At least those are cast correctly.
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Quite ruining good characters with horrible one dimensional actors. Kurt Russell would be my choice for Nick Fury. ;)
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Go Sam!
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but i'll bite adn deal with it again. This Nick fury is based not on 616 (white supersolider Fury) but rather on the Ultimates Fury (a black man, based on SLJ) so therefore it makes sense that SLJ would indeed be the right choice for Nick Fury. The movies themselves aren't going for a 616 universe or a Ultimate Universe. They are their own universe. This was addressed by John constinine in a comic book where he talks about there being multiple versions of himself one being a JC based out of LA that wears a different colored trenchcoat or something similar referring obviously to the movie version of Constintine. Now I know that JC is a DC character but i belive it stands up for Marvel as well, the movies are a seperate universe then the comics and therefore it has it's own rules adn varationsthis method has helped me enjoy many comic book movies more then I probably should. While ghost rider of film is not the 616 Ghost Rider, he is a ghost Rider of a different universe and therefore liberties can be taken (i.e. Blackheart adn Cartaker interacting with Johnny Blaze's orignes...however that doesn't excuse it from poor filmmaking or storytelling, it just helps me distinguish and not get bunched up)this rule however does not apply to LXG, as the League was never presented as being part of a true "multiverse" but rather an amgalmverse and thus i don't know, i just lost my train of thought, making up words like amgalmverse
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Nick Fury aughta whip yo ass
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Till this gets verified I remain highly skeptical....
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. . . a ridiculously implausible and juvenile story is through cross promotion with another ridiculously implausible and juvenile story. Yay hollywood. Robo-suits, anger-induced green skin, gamma bombs, villains made out of electricity, and chinese people with magical alien rings. I'm sure it will look *great* in live action.
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sucked and blew ass. Spiderman was overrated shit. X-Men's S&M gimp outfits and gay undertones, Hulk's melodrama, Fantastic Fucks, Ghastly Rider, Dipshitdevil, FUCK ASS.
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Running as fast as they can
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are both in the Marvel Universe too. Can they be in the Avengers movie? Aww c'mon, please? If Ant-Man and the Wasp can be there why not Howard?
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You said: "Dungeon masters over level 20 who live in their parents' attic masturbating to the lingerie section of the Sears catalog use that word."
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ZeroCorpse ist ein untermensch. Sondern, Kuldan ist ein untermensch. Acht, schnappen!
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Entschuldigen Sie, bitte--ZC ist nicht ein untermensch; er ist ein ubermensch.
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The Incredible Hulk will be responsible for Tony Stark's slide from social drinking billionaire to full blown alcoholism. Not enough money in the world to buy a giant green dong.
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wiki "number of the beast" and you shall see
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If tackled properly this would rock and be an excellent intro to an avengers movie. Imagine, Nick Fury approaches Tony Stark/Iron Man re his technology. Then in the Hulk movie Fury appears to help Banner/Hulk, or perhaps help the Military contain him, with technology that has Stark industries on it etc. This would establish a link without either character making a random appearance in the movies.
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could be hit or miss at this point. FF4's suck, Xmen super sucks, Elektra was emabarassingly bad but Daredevil, Hulk and Spidermans rock. I have my fingers crossed.
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... provided my assumption that the tone of theses two films gelling is correct.
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Can some studio please hire Nosferatu Jones as a consultant.... please
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