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Capone feels that REDACTED will unfortunately be redacted!

REDACTED

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.

I wish I could remember which comedian it was who first made the joke about how there was at in all likelihood at least one person who died in the World Trade Center attacks who beat his wife or kids. The point was that the hero-ification of the people that died on that horrible day had maybe gotten out of hand. I'm not saying I agree with that philosophy, but I'm guessing that same stand-up comic thinks the same thing about the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Brian De Palma's often shocking REDACTED is going to infuriate many U.S. citizens, especially ones with family members serving in the armed forces. But the simple fact is that there are assholes and reprehensible figures in every line of work. Some of them are office workers, some are soldiers, and some are filmmakers.

De Palma's story of a small group of U.S. soldiers that participate in the rape of a young Iraqi girl and the killing of her and her family is deliberately inflammatory, bordering on exploitative. But I don't consider this a bad thing. In the last few months especially I've easily seen a dozen or so feature and documentary films that have been almost sterile in their depiction of the war and our troops. Everyone is so afraid of offending or appearing to insult the wrong group that the films seem to skirt some of the uglier aspects of the war. That doesn't mean the films are no good, but it's always left me with the sense that something is missing. These are the sort of missing pieces I'm guessing were also absent in films about the Vietnam War that came out during that conflict, but were later exposed in a handful of films that came out in the 1980s.

De Palma's statement with REDACTED appears to ask, "Why wait?" He wants the atrocities of this war to be exposed now. Since films about torture/interrogation have already been done, De Palma structures this fictional account of events that are based on a real event in a highly unusual and effective format. All of the footage in REDACTED is meant to look as if it were taken from pre-existing footage (one soldier's home movies/video diaries; closed circuit surveillance footage; news reports; a French documentary; videos to loved ones back home), all of which are fake but seem very real. The cumulative effect of this format is like watching compiled evidence against these men for their crimes. In essence, De Palma has remade his underrated 1989 work CASUALTIES OF WAR about a young girl's rape in Vietnam. But this latest work feels more immediate and raw. De Palma exposes how the military drills a killer mentality into these young men and sets them loose in a land where they were probably not be held accountable for their actions. But he's also making statements here about the media and the military superstructure that would rather bury this sort of event than deal with the public relations consequences of a hearing and disciplinary actions.

The truth is even if I thought some of the performances were way over the top to the point of being too ferocious at times, it's exciting to see a master like De Palma so pissed off about something and then make a movie about it. There's a spirit of aggression and passion in REDACTED that you simply never see in feature filmmaking by such a well-known director. Not even Oliver Stone has put out a film this angry in years. De Palma has spent much of his career exploring themes regarding what is real and what is manufactured image, but never has he taken these ideas and applied them in such a fiery format. All of that being said, my guess is that very few people will go see REDACTED. If the world even gets a whiff that this film might be anti-troops (it is not), they'll avoid it like the plague (Bill O'Reilly has already said De Palma should be arrested for treason for this film). That's a shame, because REDACTED is exactly the kind of kick in the ass some people need to be driven to outrage. If Robert Redford made LIONS FOR LAMBS to get people talking, then Brian De Palma made his work to get people marching in the streets. This is a film that will probably disappear without much impact today, but will be looked at years from now as a solitary voice of cinematic dissent against this current war. De Palma's wearing his balls on his sleeve with this one, folks, and they are indeed mighty and pendulous.

Capone
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Good review, Capone...
by cornponious
Nov 18th, 2007
05:45:58 AM
Ha, anchorite...
by cornponious
Nov 18th, 2007
05:48:31 AM
"But I don't consider this a bad thing."
by Immortal_Fish
Nov 18th, 2007
06:21:38 AM
RE: "[A]ll of which are fake but seem very real"
by The Tao of Joe
Nov 18th, 2007
06:35:13 AM
It's based on a true story Anchorite
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
06:54:18 AM
I thought In the valley of elah was compeltely exploitative
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
06:58:35 AM
And yet, IndustryKiller!,
by The Tao of Joe
Nov 18th, 2007
07:21:41 AM
I didn't think it was all bad Tao
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
07:32:55 AM
You Have Got to be Kidding
by MarkWhittington
Nov 18th, 2007
07:34:19 AM
Good to hear it will tank
by RickP66
Nov 18th, 2007
07:35:39 AM
Jesus christ some of you are insane
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
07:43:05 AM
De Palma is preaching to the choir here.....
by Big Dan
Nov 18th, 2007
07:43:11 AM
If you thought 'Elah's' cellphone vids were ridiculous, Industry
by The Tao of Joe
Nov 18th, 2007
07:43:12 AM
You cons could learn something from Tao here
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
07:49:13 AM
You're right Big Dan
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
07:50:46 AM
Some facts
by TS Thomas
Nov 18th, 2007
07:55:00 AM
IndustryKiller it's about the defeatist attitude so prevalent to
by Big Dan
Nov 18th, 2007
08:13:16 AM
CAPONE, you liked the message, but what about the movie?
by Brendan3
Nov 18th, 2007
08:17:11 AM
Right on, Brendan3,
by The Tao of Joe
Nov 18th, 2007
08:18:40 AM
Man I hate right wing Americans
by messi
Nov 18th, 2007
08:21:56 AM
...and sorry, the "ass clown" comment was uncalled for..
by Big Dan
Nov 18th, 2007
08:22:10 AM
Fuck the troops
by messi
Nov 18th, 2007
08:24:08 AM
i'll take preachy left wing films over preachy right wing
by messi
Nov 18th, 2007
08:28:06 AM
big Dan the only people who will have an effect...
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
08:28:49 AM
Messi does not speak for me
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
08:30:52 AM
well okay then, why doesn't someone propose that?
by Big Dan
Nov 18th, 2007
08:35:14 AM
With that said
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
08:35:44 AM
wow, a zealot and a liberal actually conversing and getting alon
by Big Dan
Nov 18th, 2007
08:38:54 AM
Well I think part of the problem is that now
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
08:46:01 AM
In the real incident, soldiers turned in the criminals
by Razorback
Nov 18th, 2007
08:52:42 AM
WE've also let the wrong people start the rebuilding
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
08:53:10 AM
messi speaks for all liberals - they HATE America
by Razorback
Nov 18th, 2007
08:55:11 AM
well I agree with you....
by Big Dan
Nov 18th, 2007
08:55:42 AM
Can you imagine a film about John Wayne raping
by BrowncoatJedi
Nov 18th, 2007
09:01:23 AM
Messi and his ilk prove my point
by RickP66
Nov 18th, 2007
09:13:26 AM
Radacted is APPALLING!
by Alex Trevelyan
Nov 18th, 2007
09:29:23 AM
anchorite et al
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
09:30:23 AM
Caught this on HD movies the other night
by c4andmore
Nov 18th, 2007
09:36:46 AM
Big Dan
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
09:38:00 AM
www.aint-we-supporting-traitor s.com
by uss cygnus
Nov 18th, 2007
09:41:51 AM
Cygnus
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
09:43:17 AM
Cygnus
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
09:47:16 AM
Do you know what I'm sayin' when I say:
by landrvr1
Nov 18th, 2007
09:47:57 AM
Right vs Left in our media...
by Barry Egan
Nov 18th, 2007
09:50:56 AM
Barry
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
09:57:27 AM
Barry
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
09:58:55 AM
Holy Hell,
by Barry Egan
Nov 18th, 2007
10:10:51 AM
Messi
by TCSailor
Nov 18th, 2007
10:20:31 AM
Barry
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
10:24:47 AM
Capone
by TCSailor
Nov 18th, 2007
10:27:02 AM
anti troops? or anti troops who murder and rape
by kabong
Nov 18th, 2007
10:27:38 AM
It's easy to hate on Americans
by johnnyangel
Nov 18th, 2007
10:29:32 AM
johnny
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
10:41:46 AM
or if it's not hidden
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
10:46:06 AM
No, Mr. Hell, Hollywood is just afraid
by johnnyangel
Nov 18th, 2007
10:52:34 AM
I've never understood...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Nov 18th, 2007
11:00:07 AM
johnny
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:06:11 AM
I can't think
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:11:47 AM
And please,
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:12:49 AM
Or just
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:13:30 AM
"Mr. Hell"
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:14:41 AM

by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:18:16 AM
We'll always have
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:20:07 AM
Hey Holy,
by johnnyangel
Nov 18th, 2007
11:29:42 AM
johnny, OK
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:43:02 AM
GreatOne
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
11:52:53 AM
Just A Thought
by CutAndPaste
Nov 18th, 2007
11:53:18 AM
War! Ungh! Good God, yall! What is it good for?
by spumpkin
Nov 18th, 2007
11:59:07 AM
Holy, Holy, Holy (shakes head, sadly)
by johnnyangel
Nov 18th, 2007
12:05:45 PM
anchorite
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
12:11:56 PM
One actor Who may well be in Line for Several awards
by emeraldboy
Nov 18th, 2007
12:12:19 PM
How to sway the remaining 30% who think this war was a good idea
by lovetoall
Nov 18th, 2007
12:14:16 PM
johnny?
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
12:19:04 PM
Saying Redacted is anti-troop-
by underscore_only
Nov 18th, 2007
12:21:45 PM
Holy
by johnnyangel
Nov 18th, 2007
12:30:26 PM
Huge De Palma Fan...But
by brons0n81
Nov 18th, 2007
12:36:29 PM

by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
12:37:42 PM

by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
12:43:26 PM
DePalma is a pussy
by Garbageman33
Nov 18th, 2007
12:45:22 PM
It's ok Capone
by johnyaztec
Nov 18th, 2007
12:47:45 PM
It's ok Capone
by johnyaztec
Nov 18th, 2007
12:47:48 PM
Johnny
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
12:51:43 PM

by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
12:53:53 PM

by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
12:55:24 PM

by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
12:58:47 PM
The US Govt knows that americans really dont give
by emeraldboy
Nov 18th, 2007
01:12:06 PM
Yes, this is 'loosely' based on a real incident...
by James Westfall
Nov 18th, 2007
01:21:01 PM
Look at the election
by emeraldboy
Nov 18th, 2007
01:22:03 PM
Emerald
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
01:23:59 PM
You all should read
by emeraldboy
Nov 18th, 2007
01:24:40 PM
The Alternative
by WerePlatypus
Nov 18th, 2007
01:25:01 PM

by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
01:31:20 PM
the previous was for Emerald
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
01:33:13 PM
Garbageman33 alleged
by TS Thomas
Nov 18th, 2007
01:33:37 PM
I misspoke...sorry
by Garbageman33
Nov 18th, 2007
01:35:11 PM
I agree with Holy Hell
by WerePlatypus
Nov 18th, 2007
01:39:39 PM
A lot of right-wing deniers posting here...
by Kasch
Nov 18th, 2007
01:55:49 PM
Xiphos
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Nov 18th, 2007
02:04:23 PM
Capone is such a slanted DICK.......
by Vaughnnn72
Nov 18th, 2007
02:05:54 PM
not saying it isn't propaganda
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
02:06:25 PM
I guess telling a true story of what actually happened...
by rbatty024
Nov 18th, 2007
02:08:47 PM
"Hollywood was the No. 1 exporter of the American Dream?"
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
02:17:08 PM
Holy Hell- just been reading through the posts
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
02:33:06 PM
and Xiphos- thanks
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
02:38:19 PM
It needs to be repeated.
by Tourist
Nov 18th, 2007
02:45:23 PM
"Hollywood" is interested in money...
by PurityOfEssence
Nov 18th, 2007
02:47:41 PM
Furthermore...
by Tourist
Nov 18th, 2007
02:53:16 PM
Thanks Sam
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
02:54:38 PM
Drturing- people do protest for real
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
03:16:09 PM
"Never fight a land war in Asia"
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
03:25:05 PM
I couldn't finish reading the posts
by rbrog77
Nov 18th, 2007
03:28:37 PM
Go FUCK yourself Capone...
by expert_40
Nov 18th, 2007
03:29:52 PM
And I'm not saying I agree with the war...
by expert_40
Nov 18th, 2007
03:37:45 PM
Saying we had Vietnam won is ridiculous Greatone
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
03:43:45 PM
Industry, to be fair
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
03:53:52 PM
expert
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
03:55:21 PM
Sam
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
03:59:25 PM
drturing
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
04:01:30 PM
Holy Hell...
by expert_40
Nov 18th, 2007
04:06:14 PM
expert
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
04:08:15 PM
Bill OReilly the kinkypuss.
by wowsah156
Nov 18th, 2007
04:18:49 PM
Industry, Greatone2's got you there...
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
04:21:19 PM
Greatone
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
04:25:46 PM
I just addressed that Samsquatch
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
04:26:57 PM
White Screen of Doom has defeated me
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
04:38:05 PM
Anyway, about the movie
by CherryValance
Nov 18th, 2007
04:41:09 PM
Also Giaps book "How We Won the War"
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
04:43:07 PM
I hope "The Mist" loses money.
by kabong
Nov 18th, 2007
04:43:08 PM
Anchorite is RIGHT!
by Alex D
Nov 18th, 2007
04:57:39 PM

by benizdead
Nov 18th, 2007
05:02:35 PM
Alex
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
05:06:06 PM
Alex, when you say "Hollywood"
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
05:10:22 PM
ANCHORITE'S PISSED BECAUSE THIS MOVIE WAS BASED ON REAL LIFE EVE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
05:12:35 PM
Comments won't display...
by RickP66
Nov 18th, 2007
05:13:16 PM
I can't read anything either...
by Raymar
Nov 18th, 2007
05:21:03 PM
RICKP66 - AICN'S GOT AUTOMATED ASSHOLE-DETECTION
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
05:23:19 PM
I lost an N
by CherryValance
Nov 18th, 2007
05:23:20 PM
AMERICA DID WIN IN VIETNAM
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
05:26:46 PM
DEPALMA MAKES A MOVIE BASED ON CURRENT EVENTS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
05:48:54 PM
GreatOne
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
05:49:50 PM
The reason that Depalma was wrong to make this movie
by Walterego
Nov 18th, 2007
05:50:29 PM
Who says rape is right?
by Alex D
Nov 18th, 2007
05:54:04 PM
WALTEREGO
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
05:58:00 PM
Walt
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
05:59:12 PM
Great One
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
05:59:44 PM
ALEX D
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
06:00:14 PM
theres more outrage at this fucking movie
by slappy jones
Nov 18th, 2007
06:01:49 PM
Alex
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
06:03:08 PM
BringingSexyBack
by Alex D
Nov 18th, 2007
06:03:32 PM
expert 40
by slappy jones
Nov 18th, 2007
06:05:21 PM
I'VE WATCHED MORE THAN MY FAIR SHARE OF DOCUMENTARIES
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
06:06:57 PM
Alex
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
06:08:31 PM
ALEX D: SYRIANA, THE KINGDOM, RENDITION
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
06:10:28 PM
ANCHORITE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
06:16:28 PM
HEY HOLY
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
06:18:08 PM
I'd just like to point out that
by johnnyangel
Nov 18th, 2007
06:19:50 PM
BringStupidBack
by RickP66
Nov 18th, 2007
06:26:18 PM

by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
06:28:27 PM
RICKP66
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
06:28:47 PM
If everyone understands that Mahmoudiya was only an anomaly
by Walterego
Nov 18th, 2007
06:28:51 PM
BSB
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
06:34:07 PM
GreatOne
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
06:35:36 PM
Walt
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
06:39:16 PM
I SUPPORT THE RAPED AND MURDERED YOUNG GIRL ON THIS ONE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
06:42:00 PM
Mr.NiceGaius...
by expert_40
Nov 18th, 2007
06:44:43 PM
XIPHOS - NO APOLOGY NECESSARY WHATSOEVER
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
06:51:25 PM
We don't need another anti-war movie . . .
by GreatWhite
Nov 18th, 2007
06:53:30 PM
GreatOne
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
06:55:53 PM
GreatWhite
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
07:02:52 PM
It's Gonna Take 6-10 Viewings of "Red Dawn"
by thelordofhell
Nov 18th, 2007
07:15:44 PM
Brian DePalma can really be proud that people like you, like his
by darthbinks1220
Nov 18th, 2007
07:22:50 PM
DePalma can really be proud that people like you,like this film.
by darthbinks1220
Nov 18th, 2007
07:27:42 PM
XIPHOS - MAY I ASK
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
07:30:44 PM
XIPHOS - I MEANT "YOUR" PRIVATE BUSINESS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
07:31:26 PM
I think I'M being censored...
by expert_40
Nov 18th, 2007
07:35:43 PM
THELORDOFHELL
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
07:36:22 PM
EXPERT_40, YOU ARE EXPERIENCING THE "WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM"
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
07:39:14 PM
This is probably the best talkback ever...
by pdennett316
Nov 18th, 2007
07:57:49 PM
Does anybody know
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
07:59:56 PM
Heavens to Murgatroid!
by Utamoh
Nov 18th, 2007
08:12:46 PM
greatone2 quick question
by slappy jones
Nov 18th, 2007
08:35:54 PM
I really like...
by poeticwarriorII
Nov 18th, 2007
08:50:00 PM
Goddamn pot-heads
by SpiceWonBruce
Nov 18th, 2007
08:55:36 PM
What is with this goddamned white screen?
by moondoggy2u
Nov 18th, 2007
09:00:54 PM
poeticwarrior
by Holy Hell
Nov 18th, 2007
09:03:12 PM
Xiphos
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Nov 18th, 2007
09:17:28 PM
expert_40
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Nov 18th, 2007
09:26:27 PM
XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
09:28:22 PM
RE: The White Screen of Death
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Nov 18th, 2007
09:28:38 PM
The answer to all your questions are...
by wackybantha
Nov 18th, 2007
09:33:42 PM
"a solitary voice of cinematic dissent..."
by Toonol
Nov 18th, 2007
09:43:53 PM
Xiphos, BSB et al
by pdiddy
Nov 18th, 2007
09:46:07 PM
XIPHOS - HERE IS A POST FROM A MOTHER ON THE DWTS MESSAGE BOARD
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
09:47:11 PM
XIPHOS - YOU'RE NOT KIDDING MAN
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
10:00:23 PM
Now I'm getting the whitewash too
by Utamoh
Nov 18th, 2007
10:05:53 PM
Every war has atrocities...
by jfp2007
Nov 18th, 2007
10:06:39 PM
The Middle East has been a cancer of the worls since time began.
by Alex D
Nov 18th, 2007
10:14:21 PM
EDYTA SHOULD BE FUCKING WONDER WOMAN
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
10:14:52 PM
then why do you care if two homosexuals get married?
by slappy jones
Nov 18th, 2007
10:18:16 PM
Michael Medved on Redacted
by MarkWhittington
Nov 18th, 2007
10:19:57 PM
Anchorite is my boy
by OptimusCrime
Nov 18th, 2007
10:20:39 PM
spicewonbruce please tell me you are kidding
by slappy jones
Nov 18th, 2007
10:21:04 PM
MICHAEL MEDVED IS A NEOCON ZIONIST LOON
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
10:22:05 PM
OPTIMUSCRIME
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
10:24:13 PM
Holy Hell
by darthbinks1220
Nov 18th, 2007
10:25:47 PM
Holy Hell
by GreatWhite
Nov 18th, 2007
10:29:31 PM
XIPHOS - HERE'S A PIC
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
10:31:18 PM
Slappy...
by SpiceWonBruce
Nov 18th, 2007
10:38:57 PM
Slappy...
by SpiceWonBruce
Nov 18th, 2007
10:38:57 PM
Sorry about the double post, BTW
by SpiceWonBruce
Nov 18th, 2007
10:41:16 PM
2 things to watch out for:
by samsquanch
Nov 18th, 2007
10:41:45 PM
Troll?!?!
by SpiceWonBruce
Nov 18th, 2007
10:54:36 PM
XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
10:58:46 PM
XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
11:06:56 PM
XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 18th, 2007
11:24:27 PM
What is with this fucking white screen!!!??
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 18th, 2007
11:45:07 PM
More treacherous anti-American crap from Hollywood
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Nov 18th, 2007
11:51:36 PM
God Bless America
by Harry Weinstein
Nov 19th, 2007
12:00:43 AM
Wow Pantera
by samsquanch
Nov 19th, 2007
12:11:32 AM
OK, first off, I havent seen it, but.....
by closeencounter
Nov 19th, 2007
12:18:49 AM
You have had one widely reported incident.
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
12:26:50 AM
Liberal bias
by gotilk
Nov 19th, 2007
12:27:21 AM
NOBODY WANTS A WAR!
by Alex D
Nov 19th, 2007
12:28:09 AM
yea...
by drJames
Nov 19th, 2007
12:35:41 AM
Yeah, more.
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
12:54:49 AM
I don't care what the message was...
by Spice-Orange
Nov 19th, 2007
12:55:17 AM
How did Edyta get in this argument?
by CherryValance
Nov 19th, 2007
12:57:47 AM
"Violently forcing adherence to my way of life?!"
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
01:01:32 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:08:30 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:09:07 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:09:21 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:09:28 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:09:35 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:09:43 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:10:37 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:10:50 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:10:57 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:11:05 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:14:35 AM
The whole purpose...
by Tourist
Nov 19th, 2007
01:15:09 AM
YAWWWWWNNNNN
by vintagecrow
Nov 19th, 2007
01:16:30 AM
Alex, just to let you know-
by samsquanch
Nov 19th, 2007
01:20:22 AM
YAWWWWNN 2
by vintagecrow
Nov 19th, 2007
01:21:57 AM
For the love of Allah
by only1
Nov 19th, 2007
01:32:18 AM
sweet geebus
by only1
Nov 19th, 2007
01:38:12 AM
Touist
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
03:14:23 AM
Samsquanch: democracy isn't any ideology
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
03:25:43 AM
only1..
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
03:33:03 AM
THERE SHOULD BE MORE FILMS LIKE THIS
by y7jver01
Nov 19th, 2007
04:30:35 AM
Shagdrum we meet again
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 19th, 2007
04:47:31 AM
As for Rush Limbaugh
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 19th, 2007
04:49:14 AM
shagdrum
by only1
Nov 19th, 2007
04:55:29 AM
And one more thing Shagdrum
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 19th, 2007
04:56:15 AM
PS
by only1
Nov 19th, 2007
05:04:32 AM
Is anyone still reading this thread?
by Riley Martin
Nov 19th, 2007
06:27:47 AM
RE: Since no one is actually talking about the film itself...
by The Tao of Joe
Nov 19th, 2007
07:22:22 AM
Thumbs Up to Anchorite
by vikingkitty
Nov 19th, 2007
07:28:06 AM
nobody wins wars nobody loses wars
by emeraldboy
Nov 19th, 2007
09:14:02 AM
LIONS FOR LAMBS
by thegreatwhatzit
Nov 19th, 2007
10:42:00 AM
It's all religion and money in the end.
by ZeroCorpse
Nov 19th, 2007
11:04:31 AM
It was Joy Behar who made the joke about 9/11 widows
by SID 8.0
Nov 19th, 2007
11:47:04 AM
"All of the footage in REDACTED is meant to look as if it were t
by -guyinthebackrow
Nov 19th, 2007
12:04:20 PM
anchorite...
by -guyinthebackrow
Nov 19th, 2007
12:06:25 PM
CHERRYVALANCE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 19th, 2007
12:35:53 PM
ZEROCORPSE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 19th, 2007
12:40:37 PM
Oh I have just seen Cloverfield Trailer no 2
by emeraldboy
Nov 19th, 2007
12:43:28 PM
Shagdrum
by samsquanch
Nov 19th, 2007
12:51:28 PM
I love reading all these posts but...
by Deus Vult
Nov 19th, 2007
01:01:43 PM
Zero Corpse - Hate America Much?
by DudeOne
Nov 19th, 2007
02:37:06 PM
ANCHORITE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 19th, 2007
02:44:52 PM
DUDEONE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 19th, 2007
02:48:08 PM
ANCHORITE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 19th, 2007
02:56:52 PM
IndustryKiller....
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
03:17:55 PM
only1, sorry...
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
03:22:44 PM
"invectives and abusive epithets"
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 19th, 2007
03:31:49 PM
Holy Hell...
by poeticwarriorII
Nov 19th, 2007
03:31:51 PM
samsquanch
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
03:37:18 PM
anchorite vs. BringingSexyBack vs. the world!!! (and messi)
by Bill Brasky
Nov 19th, 2007
03:37:32 PM
IndustryKiller...
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
03:58:08 PM
BILL BRASKY
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 19th, 2007
03:59:18 PM
Just for the record...
by bobbyjoe
Nov 19th, 2007
04:12:18 PM
As to Limbaugh and hypocracy...
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
04:13:21 PM
Holy Shit
by Holy Hell
Nov 19th, 2007
04:44:06 PM
By the way
by Holy Hell
Nov 19th, 2007
04:54:59 PM
Also
by Holy Hell
Nov 19th, 2007
04:58:25 PM
BSB - You are SO off the mark
by DudeOne
Nov 19th, 2007
05:48:11 PM
Th white screen of doom is hitting me hard this time
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 19th, 2007
05:55:09 PM
If a "ripped from the headlines" story can damage the military..
by ebonic_plague
Nov 19th, 2007
06:10:31 PM
Heh
by jdb1972
Nov 19th, 2007
06:31:33 PM
jdb
by Holy Hell
Nov 19th, 2007
06:51:53 PM
HOLY HELL, XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 19th, 2007
07:01:03 PM
Thanks Holy Hell
by samsquanch
Nov 19th, 2007
07:01:06 PM
BSB
by Holy Hell
Nov 19th, 2007
07:14:31 PM
Sam
by Holy Hell
Nov 19th, 2007
07:17:31 PM
Hey, BringingSexyBack and Xiphos
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
07:29:08 PM
Dramacidal; learn that facts on Limbaugh
by shagdrum
Nov 19th, 2007
07:40:56 PM
Of course Gen.Giap would never lie.
by Tinfang
Nov 19th, 2007
08:05:40 PM
Conservatives love murder and rape
by Cruel_Kingdom
Nov 19th, 2007
08:29:19 PM
New York Times
by pdiddy
Nov 19th, 2007
09:46:02 PM
how can anyone take limbaugh seriously?
by slappy jones
Nov 19th, 2007
09:57:31 PM
Well put, ZeroCorpse.
by DocPazuzu
Nov 20th, 2007
01:33:04 AM
Dramacidal; Here are the facts on Limbaugh
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
04:25:08 AM
Prior to the disaster of the war in Iraq
by emeraldboy
Nov 20th, 2007
05:03:59 AM
Shagdrum
by only1
Nov 20th, 2007
05:37:49 AM
one more Limbaugh note
by only1
Nov 20th, 2007
05:43:54 AM
YAAAWN
by Lost Jarv
Nov 20th, 2007
07:14:31 AM
apart from the us and uk govts and the debacle in
by emeraldboy
Nov 20th, 2007
08:23:42 AM
I don't have a problem with Limbaugh..
by queerfilmjunkie
Nov 20th, 2007
11:56:57 AM
Dramacidal; The surgery was botched
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
01:47:39 PM
queerfilmjunkie...
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
01:53:11 PM
only1...
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
02:18:21 PM
Emeraldboy, are you on drugs?
by DudeOne
Nov 20th, 2007
02:58:00 PM
anchorite
by DocPazuzu
Nov 20th, 2007
04:47:26 PM
Dramacidal, you got it reversed, and you know it
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
06:56:49 PM
DocPazuzu; unjust war?!
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
06:58:55 PM
Docpazuzu; you really are out there...
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
07:05:14 PM
Damacidal; you've purposely distorting...again
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
07:37:33 PM
Breaking the law?!
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
08:09:36 PM
You obviously have a bone to pick here...
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
08:20:48 PM
How is that an excuse?
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
08:32:26 PM
Thou doth protest too much...
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
08:38:33 PM
IndustryKiller, "I cannot imagine a country run by cons here"
by Immortal_Fish
Nov 20th, 2007
08:39:36 PM
Amen, Immortal_Fish!!!
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
09:50:17 PM
Immortal Fish I would retort but...
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 20th, 2007
09:56:22 PM
IndustryKiller...
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
10:46:47 PM
"I hate them. And there is nothing you can do to make me think o
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 20th, 2007
11:24:55 PM
He wasn't getting high...just holding the addiction at bay???
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 20th, 2007
11:44:19 PM
Also I read on the national review website
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 20th, 2007
11:46:57 PM
TREASON
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 20th, 2007
11:54:16 PM
condemning people in th for the very same?
by shagdrum
Nov 20th, 2007
11:58:30 PM
INDUSTRYKILLER
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
12:01:48 AM
Here ya go shag
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 21st, 2007
12:05:59 AM
BSB you are distorting, again...
by shagdrum
Nov 21st, 2007
12:10:19 AM
LIMBAUGH IS TYPICAL OF THE RADICAL RIGHT-WINGERS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
12:10:32 AM
SHAGDRUM - TRY READING YOUR OWN POSTS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
12:15:35 AM
opps, my bad
by shagdrum
Nov 21st, 2007
12:31:20 AM
XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
12:32:56 AM
BringingSexyBack - you need to read posts yourself
by DudeOne
Nov 21st, 2007
12:39:06 AM
Buzzflash.com?!
by shagdrum
Nov 21st, 2007
12:41:21 AM
DUDEONE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
12:59:09 AM
HOLY
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
01:15:38 AM
You're splitting hairs Shag
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 21st, 2007
01:45:02 AM
Immortal_Fish
by Tal the Reviewer
Nov 21st, 2007
01:47:15 AM
The Tao of Joe
by Tal the Reviewer
Nov 21st, 2007
02:08:59 AM
Thats some serious apologizing tal
by IndustryKiller!
Nov 21st, 2007
02:13:15 AM
hmmm, I wonder
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
03:16:49 AM
Shagdrum
by DocPazuzu
Nov 21st, 2007
05:49:57 AM
Tal/Industry
by Holy Hell
Nov 21st, 2007
06:08:25 AM
Limbaugh Madness
by Holy Hell
Nov 21st, 2007
06:23:22 AM
anchorite
by Holy Hell
Nov 21st, 2007
07:29:32 AM
A few things
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
08:19:55 AM
anchorite
by DocPazuzu
Nov 21st, 2007
08:31:52 AM
sigh...
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
08:39:48 AM
Thanks Jarv
by Holy Hell
Nov 21st, 2007
08:47:31 AM
DANCING WITH RAMBO VOL. 24: QUICKSTEP HEADSTOMP
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
08:58:16 AM
sorry I forgot to say-
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
09:08:27 AM
HEY XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
09:25:22 AM
LP
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
09:27:03 AM
I saw them first time round
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
09:38:56 AM
BSB
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
09:47:36 AM
LP - I tried to pull a similar article from the Telegraph
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
09:50:16 AM
I don't know. I don't think so
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
09:56:06 AM
Here you go:
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
10:07:49 AM
LP - Thanks for that link
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 21st, 2007
10:22:15 AM
I didn't mean that the Telegraph isn't biased
by Lost Jarv
Nov 21st, 2007
10:32:24 AM
Drama
by Holy Hell
Nov 21st, 2007
12:10:14 PM
HA!
by Holy Hell
Nov 21st, 2007
12:52:20 PM
Do you realize...
by LilBuddy
Nov 21st, 2007
05:55:35 PM
once more, Shag...
by only1
Nov 22nd, 2007
12:16:58 PM
Tal the Reviewer
by The Tao of Joe
Nov 24th, 2007
09:04:23 AM
Theo van Gogh was a brave film maker
by Immortal_Fish
Nov 25th, 2007
03:37:33 PM
Haha IT BOMBED
by TCSailor
Nov 26th, 2007
11:02:30 AM

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