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Jackie Chan & Jet Li Travel To THE FORBIDDEN KINGDOM But End Up On...YouTube!?!?
Merrick here...
Like the headline says...
Look for it in April from director Rob Minkoff (STUART LITTLEs 1 & 2, co-director of THE LION KING, and director of the ROGER RABBIT shorts "Tummy Trouble" and "Roller Coaster Rabbit").
I'm still trying to reconcile these credits with the footage we just saw...
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Yeah
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looks very good.
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But this looks shit.
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But apparently it does in this movie. And Jackie Chan cannot speak english, so hearing him attempt it in what looks like it's supposed to be ancient China is especially jarring. Same goes with Jet Li.
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IT NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME: ACTION DIRECTORS, The most important "secret" to making an action movie that is successful, especially a kung-fu flick, is to film a scene for the trailer that the audience has never seen before. A scene that will get audiences talking in the theater and out of it. ALL ANYONE CARES ABOUT FROM THIS MOVIE IS JET LI FIGHTING JACKIE CHAN, NOT FUCKING HORSES RUNNING IN WATER AND 80 FIGHTS THAT REMIND ME OF BALLERINAS AND MAKE ME WANT TO FALL ASLEEP. Even if Jackie and Jet don't fight in this movie, you should have filmed a scene for the trailer where they do. And if that's too goddamn much to ask, then show us something that blows our mind, if only for a split second. Show us a guy kung-fu fighting a bear or some shit. Enough with the "magic staff" bullshit. Show us a guy being hung by a noose but still fighting off villains and trying to get free. Or a guy fighting off warriors using a torch like a staff. THIS TRAILER IS BORING. SAME OLD CROUCHING TIGER Style. Give me two seconds that make me go "wow" then cut to black. I don't need to see every fight in the movie. YOU ARE OVERCOMPENSATING. STUDIO EXECS ARE MORONS.
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Jet Li's role is "Silent Monk." Maybe he won't talk for the entire movie.
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Is their insistance that their whole Marvel Universe timeline was started a mere 13 years ago, so some 40+ years of continuity all gets compressed into starting back in the '90s. I just don't buy it. I'd buy 20 or so years ago, but not 13. Too much stuff happened between now and then. But people don't want to see their heroes age, so hence. I think it'd be cool to let the universe evolve, not real time of course, but something of a compressed timeline would be okay, let the stories evolve, and there's plenty of alternate realities that they could use to have the characters the way people grow up remembering them.
I know this all extremely geeky, but screw it. -
Accidentally hit the back button into the wrong forum. My bad. -
I thought Jet was done doing this genre, and Jackie hasn't done anything serious since.....
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The letter "U".....
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Go pop in Flashpoint by Donnie Yen and Wilson Yip.
The choreographing for period piece martial arts movies really need to be revamped. -
It's like reenacting the Battle of Agincourt starring Djimon Hounsou.
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Did you see Jet Li in Unleashed? I thought he was good in that.
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Fucking white kids be showing up everywhere. Which producer's son/nephew/relative was that?
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Who the hell is that white guy in this? I guess Americans wont see anything unless it has a white face in it huh? Not a smart move studio chief! No wonder Asians laugh at us.
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...this looks fantastic, especially with music from Hero playing over it. But....doofy white guy?? Wha? Did he travel through time or something?
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That looked quite fecking good. Wasn't one of them supposed to be a Monkey King or some shit? I thought he'd be an actual monkey. Like a martial arts Wizard of Oz or something. This doesn't look much different then your favorite martial arts movies, but who the fuck cares? If it works..
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Suddenly I don't need to see this movie, it seems I already have. Anyone else into Hong Kong movies can add ones I've missed. But let me point out the obvious ones. Jackie Chan drunk, is obviously stolen from Drunken Master, the badass sword-chick with the white hair is obviously stolen from Brigitte Lin in "the Bride with White Hair." White Kid and hot Asian chick from "Karate Kid 2". Teahouse fighting scene from "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon." In fact most of the visuals stolen from Crouching Tiger or one of the visual knock-offs that soon followed like Hero (see the Breakdancing monk shot and remember the Donnie Yen fight in Hero), or the falling leaves scene (think Ziyi Zhang and Maggie Cheung in Hero). Did I miss any other obvious ones? This is why white guys shouldn't direct Kung Fu movies, they bring nothing original to them.
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no chris tucker...
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... Woo-ping Yuen is the action choreographer. doesn't matter who directs. i watched w/ no sound, so i'm sure this guy's directing inability will shine through the non action oriented performances.
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Awesomeness... except for that kid who looks like a skinny Shia. Would've preferred to have seen Donnie Yen or Stephen Chow in there.
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damn, you think they would have at least given us a teaser of jet li decked out as the monkey king! i hope they do not fuck up this story. the JOURNEY TO THE WEST aka MONKEY KING is the greatest epic put forth to words. then there is an american sent back in time, who can HOLD the monkey king's staff??? yuen woo ping did the fight scenes, so i am there for sure. but im gonna be furious if the monkey king shows up for 1 minute at the end of the fucking flick.
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a kids movie. This is looking rather good actually. And the american actor actually looks like he knows what he's doing in terms of martial arts and all. I can't wait to see this!
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The American (Michael Angarano) had to train with real martial arts masters for a few months in China before shooting the film. So it looks like it paid off.
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China's official Xinhua News Agency has quoted Chan's own criticism of the film: "The movie I just shot with Jet Li, The Forbidden Kingdom, actually isn't that great... The Forbidden Kingdom is a movie made for Americans... Chinese viewers may not like it. If I say it's a good movie now, then many people will be filled with overly high expectations and be disappointed when they see the movie."
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His choice in material for himself is awful lately, but whenever he shrugs and does a "family" movie for the paycheck - it turns out really damn well. AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS is the closest he ever got to capturing the vibe of his HK stuff, and this looks very nice. Those quick to bash the director as a poor choice, as I was, pause and think for a second. He's done epic (THE LION KING) and balls-out action (the ROGER RABBIT shorts) - he might not be a bad choice at all. His animation background ensures he's got at least some visual sense, and that YouTube footage would back that up. Jet and Jackie may shrug it off as a not-particularly faithful version of a beloved story, but this isn't aimed at fans of classic Chinese literature, it's aimed at American kids who've never read JOURNEY TO THE WEST. And for an American kids movie, it looks damn nice.
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I thought Jet Li was done making "epic films"... so then what the hell could this possibly be like?
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If you want to see some straight up powerhouse acting, just watch Stephen Chow completely inhabit the role in Jeff Lau's A CHINESE ODYSSEY (split into two films in post-production). Not the most faithful adaptation, and really confusing at times to the uninitiated - but Chow is so good here I can't even describe it without lapsing into cliche. Plenty of Oscar-winning Best Actors never give a performance as good as Chow's Monkey King in their entire careers. It's that good a performance.
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Jackie Chan actually says someting. I don't trust it...
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Hopefully the Chan/Li fight will be appropriately epic.
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Yeah, you missed the knowledge that Wuxia didn't begin with Crouching Tiger, drunken boxing is a real style that didn't begin with Drunken Master, and the "badass sword chick with white hair" is an archetypal image that didn't begin with Bride With White Hair.
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Nov 15, 2007 6:16:53 PM CST
Assoon as Jackie opened his mouth and spoke in engrish
by thenorthlander
this film became a lot less interesting. Why can't they speak chinese?
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I can acknowldege all of that and still make my point. And in fact I do. But when you see Jackie Chan stumble up the steps with that bottle, is it not almost an exact scene out of Drunken Master? And have you ever seen Bride with White Hair? That's almost an exact copy of her signature move from that movie? No shit Wuxia didn't begin with Crouching Tiger, but there are still original things you can do with it. All I am asking for is a little originality in the movie. But hey, that's ok, if you want more of the same old thing, then you go ahead and love the hell out of this movie. I want something badass that I haven't seen before, like the first time you saw John Woo's The Killer, or Jet Li's Once Upon a Time in China, or Bruce Lee in just about anything he did. The problem is that Crouching Tiger did well, so that's the style everyone is copying. And to make matters worse, there is an American Director who directed Stuart F-ing Little who probably doesn't know Hong Kong cinema from his own ass, who probably sat down with a stack of DVD's and said, we can do this, and stole the best and most original ideas from them and just threw them into this movie. Seriously, if you couldn't play "count the movies these scenes were stolen from" I seriously question your knowledge of these movies. No duh these movies aren't the first, but arguably they were the most recent, and biggest of each genre (such as sword-fighting, mixed form, Wuxia, etc.) and even a rip off from the last really popular US martial arts film, the Karate Kid. (And please don't quote Segal, Van Damme, or any of that Matrix crap, they don't count.) And that this dofus who directed this threw in a kid who looks like Kirk freaking Cameron doesn't make it any more promising. So yeah, you got your comment up, way to show how little you know. Go back to watching "So-Close" or "City-Hunter" in your basement and talking to your Chewbacca toy about how much you think you know.
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Those cats were fast as lightning. I'm going to go watch Hero again now. No, wait, Fist of Legend. Yeah.
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NOT USE "HERO" SOUNDTRACK AGAIN?
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Jackie Chan to Jet Li: "We can kill eachother when it's over."
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... might be better than the Dragon Ball movie since it's basically coming from the same backstory (Journey to the West). Jet Li is the monkey king in this, I think.
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any more than Rush Hour. He went on to explain he does these shite films only so he has money to make his own films. So why would I pay to see him phoning it in? When does Rob-B-Hood come out on DVD with English subtitles?
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and then i saw a bunch of scenes that looked choreographed and directed by people that had SEEN a lot of kung-fu movies and followed tutorials, but came up a couple steps short.
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and i am unsure how this jibes with the story. Which one is Piggy?
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I'm the definitive Monkey King, next to Stephen Chow and Donnie Yen. Russell Wong's take was a complete joke. Bai Ling is a whore/xiaojie.
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Half the time Jackie will take his Hollywood blood money, go back to Hong Kong, and make something as bad as anything Hollywood could dream up for him. ROB-B-HOOD (coming soon from Dragon Dynasty) is his best Hong Kong film in a good while - and it's OK, no better. Jackie Chan has great taste in material that he produces but doesn't appear in. When it comes to what actually makes for a good Jackie Chan movie he's far less reliable. This thing already looks better than ROB-B-HOOD, which is way too cutesy and quite overlong considering the lightweight material. Hopefully his official return to directing, OPERATION CONDOR/ARMOUR OF GOD III, will be significantly better than the stuff he's been churning out in Hong Kong lately.
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I never thought I would say that- I absolutely loved the man for many years. But his recent comments about the Rush Hour movies and his American work in general just pissed me off. Sure didn't mind taking the paychecks, did he? Im never seeing anything that guy does again.
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Drunken Master meets Black Mask?
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Has Chan or Li figured out if they still want to work and not bullshit around?
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How dare he not understand the appeal of mediocre movies made in a language he barely speaks, directed by someone of Brett Ratner's caliber. I don't understand the appeal of RUSH HOUR any more than Jackie does, and I'm American. No, it's far better if he'd just take the checks and lie through his teeth about how awesome RUSH HOUR 3 is. That shows a lot more respect to the fans.
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It doesn't get any better than that for my money. 2 of the greatest martial arts movie stars going head-to-head. They will get my 10 bucks for sure. It's about time Chan and Li were in a movie together and actually FIGHTING each other. I'm PSYCHED. :)
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Any reservations I had about this film are gone and now I can't wait to see it. It's obvious from this that Minkoff was the right guy and with help from Yuen Wo Ping and Peter Pau he's made a Monkey King movie with teeth and heart. The kid is Michael Angarano, who was in a film that played at Sundance called Snow Angels by David Gordon Green.
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poop. nothing but poop.
I smell 'The last Samurai'.
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Though definitely a tried-and-true genre piece. And am I the only person who really enjoyed Bulletproof Monk? Probably.
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I miss Jackie Chan Adventures...
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Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Yifei Liu, Bingbing Li, Michael Angarano, Collin Chou, Yuen Wo Ping and Peter Pau... It's actually a perfect mix on this huge movie, I'm excited. There is a news clip about the making of this movie in Hengdian China, on youtube http://youtube.com/watch?v=lRhwqu_g2dA&feature=related
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Hopefully it was merely an oversight not to include a scene where Jackie Chan gets punched/kicked/whacked in the nuts for comic effect. Because he does... in every film he's in. And whats with the white kid? Please don't let him do some 'western street style' that catches trained martial artists totally off-guard. Or provide 'hilarious' one-liners post combat.
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Hey I got an idea - let's RAPE Chinese culture!
And when will Hollywood learn - KIDS DO NOT NEED KIDS IN FILMS TO RELATE - they identify with the protagonist regardless of age - IF HE KICKS ASS.
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You know Jackie Chan is always talking out of his ass. He does it all the time, but he's obviously having fun in that footage with Jet Li. I bet it was a non stop party on set. I think the movie looks awesome.
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Nov 16, 2007 3:45:23 PM CST
WTF is the white guy (Luke Skywalker) character doing in it?
by kirttrik
Jackie Chan and Jet Li are enough to get me in the theater. I don't need some wantabe Buddhist Monk in it. And how come Zhang Yimou or Tsui Hark direct it? The bride with White Hairs a nice touch, though.
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That sounds really good. Steven Chow rocks!
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