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Colonel Trautman Takes On RAMBO (The Sequel He Didn't Want To See), And Rambo Wins!!

Merrick here...
Colonel Trautman sent in this look at RAMBO. He viewed an unfinished version of the film, but says...at this point...the uber-violence we saw in the original trailer is still in-tact. This is fantastically cool news - I'd hate to see 'em whimp out, because we need a film with balls right about now. AND, in answer to many (MANY) e-mails we've received about this matter, Trautman says we DO hear Jerry Goldsmith's original themes in the movie. There are MODERATE SPOILERS AHEAD - fairly broad & not too revealing. But, be warned...
Here's Trautman...
Hey Harry, Colonel Trautman on a film mission that I feel compelled to share. Please keep my identity secret as I actually stumbled across a screening of...ssshhh...JOHN RAMBO. And I come to praise Sylvester Stallone not bury him. As for my street cred, I was a big fan of FIRST BLOOD especially Brian Dennehy, and thought the next two Rambo films were jingoistic action comedies. 'Nuff said about them. I thought it cool when Sly came to AICN to interact with his fans and he was honest about his experience. I will be too. However, the version that I saw still needs post-production work, so this is by no means the final version. Still, I wouldn't have sent a review unless I thought JOHN RAMBO was worth seeing. I think it is. While I wasn't overjoyed at the prospect of another Rambo adventure to cartoonishly right Vietnam era wrongs, I have to say that timing favors Stallone this time around. The Burmese government is one of the world's most corrupt and barbarous regimes. I advise all to use the web and research for yourself the facts. Don't expect a history lesson from John Rambo. But the film opens with a montage highlighting the Burma government and their brutality, including shots of the recent violence against the monks. No matter your poilitcal bent, your blood will boil. The narrative is relatively simple, basically the story of outcast ex-pat John Rambo taking a team of missionairies up the river into the heart of the dangerous Burmese region. The dialogue for the conflict between the silent bitter Rambo and the idealistic pacifists goes as expected. Fortunately, Stallone plays Rambo perfectly, fitting back into the role like an old friend, and I liked him at his first line: "Fuck off, okay?" Sly keeps his dialogue to a minimum through the film but his expressions say everything. After all these years, he's still charismatic. So what I'm saying is that Stallone is terrific in this. To cut a long story short, the missionaries are captured by the wicked Burmese colonel, who sadly has no character to develop outside of representing pure evil repression. Stallone has shot the atrocities with a naturalistic 1970's verite style that's highly effective. He's clearly building up the audience anger, and however manipulative, it works. Stallone is thus entreated to rescue the missionairies with the help of a team of mercenaries, who provide a neat counterpoint to Rambo. It was also a smart idea to add another group to give the battles more realism and tension. I liked the Australian merc leader, a bad-ass who loves getting into Rambo's face to taunt him. It's cool the way Stallone keeps Rambo taut, ready to explode but never knowing when... Eventually the mercs make it to the compound holding the missionairies along with other women, who are brutalized during the film's most uncomfortable moments. It's almost too much. The tension as Rambo leads the mercs through the compound is extreme and it's this slow build up that leads to the cathartic rush of the final battle, which is what amps up the film to must-see status. Remember that first trailer that showcased incredible gore? Well, it's all here at this stage and it must not be cut. Because Stallone has directed an exciting and kinetic action set piece worthy of the masters. I defy audiences to not cheer when John Rambo goes into full-on RAMBO MODE. Heads explode, skeletal bodies fly, and bodies literally disappear in a red mist as Rambo takes out the Burmese soldiers with the capable help of the mercs. It must be said that Stallone looks spectacular for his age; you never doubt that this man can still chew bubble gum and kick ass. We should all look so buff post 60. What I liked best about the battle, over the top as it may be, is that it avoids the ADD frame-fucking "what the hell was that" of today's uninspired action scenes. Each shot here has a start and resolution. Props to the editors and to Stallone for actually choreographing the battle. And while the gore is no doubt extreme, it suits the vengeful nature of the story. Truncating the violence here would be as deadly as removing the gore from Romero's DAWN OF THE DEAD. Must. Not. Cut. I won't reveal much more suffice to say that Rambo ends up exactly where he should in a very satisfying ending. Even better, Stallone has avoided giving himself a speech to declare what we already know. There's more work to be done so who knows how much the film will change by the time it comes out. I can say that JOHN RAMBO is easily Stallone's best directed film and he pulled off a sequel I didn't even want to see. It's darker than the previous two but much better in its execution. I do hope he uses this movie to bow out of the genre and maybe get that Edgar Allen Poe script into production... Oh, and yes, you do hear the Jerry Goldsmith theme. Uh-oh, somebody's coming. Remember, you didn't see me. I don't even exist... This is Colonel Trautman, over and out.


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  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Goldsmith theme, all I wanted to know.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    It should be at least watchable.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Going to Rock

    by kbass

    I can't wait to see this.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Uhh..

    by kbass

    I of course don't mean "The Rock" as in action movie hero turned mushy Disney comedy star Dwayne Johnson. I mean "rock" as in dated slang for "going to be good."

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    firsy

    by onephatnelly

    yay

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    fourth

    by onephatnelly

    damn!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST

    VIGGO AS POE??

    by THE KNIGHT

    Nice casting! Either him or Downey Jr. Hopefully Sly makes POE next!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Awesome.

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Can't wait.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    nice!

    by hegele

    good to hear.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    the more I see

    by Bloo

    the more I read<P>the more I hear <P>the more excited I am about this movie

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Company Leader to Raven... Come in Raven

    by DonnyUnitas

    I'll proudly fork another 10 bucks towards Stallone for this movie, as well as the DVD purchase... but PLEASE Sly, give us a 5 disc box set with tons of features and commentary!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:58 a.m. CST

    I SUPPORT THE PUKING BILLY GOAT ON THIS ONE

    by Pound Sand

    This sounds great! Way to go Sly. Can't wait for the Scorsese / DiCaprio collaboration..., huh?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:59 a.m. CST

    You're jingoistic!

    by Heckles

    Saw the trailer before American Gangster, looks alright. The trailer I saw here was a lot better. Still not sold on this. Maybe it's too soon after Rocky Balboa. I still can't get over the jackass name of his opponent, Mason 'The Line' Dixon. I mean, seriously, are you f'n kidding me? What, was Jasper 'Underground Railroad' McBlackson too racial? Horrible.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11 a.m. CST

    Cannot Wait

    by TwoTonLeither

    I have total faith in this flick

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST

    RAMBO movie lenght?

    by ABking

    GREAT GREAT NEWS!!! How long was the film you saw?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Stallone has delivered an ACTION EXTRAVAGANZA MASTERPIECE!

    by ABking

    - Goldsmith score is there...YES! - THE ACTION is amazing...YES! - Sly's best directed movie (now that is a nice praise)...YES! - RAMBO doesn't speak much words, but his expressions say it all (some of you need not worry about this anymore)...YES! - The gore is still there...YES! The first ever RAMBO review was positive...it seems like ROCKY BALBOA all over again! Love the part of the review when the reviewer says "Stallone is worthy of the masters" meaning any director (ie Cameron, Spielberg, Ridley Scott ect) and the part where he claims "this is Stallone's best directed work." Hell this entire review KICKS ASS!!!! Way to go Sly!!!! You have pulled off one helleva masterful action extravaganza that will join numerous lists to come!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    heckles

    by pikagreg

    actually laughed out loud at your post "jasper "underground railroad" mcblackson. nice. and i refuse to do lol. because thats gay.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Can't wait to see this.

    by scudd

    You have my money on opening weekend, Sly. By the way, between Rambo and Rocky Balboa, I'm firmly convinced you should be directing a shitload more than you do.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Son of Rambow

    by the beef

    If the Drafthouse doesn't double-bill the flicks together that would suck. Looking forward to this.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST

    gO sLY!

    by blackshuck

    As a Philly boy and someone who has some personal ties to "Mike" Stallone, I say forget Rambo Three and Kick Some Burmese Ass!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:21 a.m. CST

    I'm coming for you Murdoch!

    by orionazul

    I thought that the first Rambo was the best. The second two were worthy action flicks that left a bloody trail in their wake. If John Rambo is like "Colonel Trautman" says it is, I will definitely go see it!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST

    So Rambo DIES then?

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    "I won't reveal much more suffice to say that Rambo ENDS UP EXACTLY WHERE HE SHOULD in a very satisfying ending."

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Is this Planty McPlantson?

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    Hmmm?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Rambo 4: Electric Boogaloo.

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    It could happen.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:32 a.m. CST

    rambo first blood

    by Ozzie_H

    Rambo is eligable for senior citizen discounts! He still kicks ass!! Can't wait.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Anybody else worried...

    by mastes360

    That Rambo (the character, not the film) doesn't actually have a lot of action in this film?, thats certainly the impression i got after reading the script.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    BRING ON THE RED MIST!

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Must. See. Now.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST

    by Acquanetta

    Good to hear that Sly has kept the dialogue to a minimum, and that Rambo won't be preaching throughout. But I don't like the idea of the film opening with a "see how evil these people are?" montage. It just doesn't belong in this series.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Goldsmith: Check, Hardcore Action: Check...

    by KillaKane

    Bodes well, especially as it's, according to this reviewer (hopefully not Mr Planty)more in the vein of First Blood. Going to see it no matter what, for old times sake, fingers crossed this lives up to expectation.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, noon CST

    Did Rambo Get that Second Medal of Honor?

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    I am just wondering...

  • Nov. 14, 2007, noon CST

    Poe biopic?

    by Neil Peart

    I'll go see it only if it features a scene of Brock Samson getting Poe in a headlock. "That thing's like a pumpkin!"

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Kudoes to Heckles

    by amaysingstories

    Jasper "Underground Railroad" McBlackson is easily the funniest thing I've seen all week. I wonder who else we could lump in there?<P><P>Chinky "Tienanmen Square" Yellowfella?<P><P>Bradley "The WASPy Cuckold" Whitebottom?<P><P>Omar "Every Damned Bombing on Earth" Scapegoatisan?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Plant

    by tme2nsb

    Nah, just kidding

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Why would they have cut the violence seen in the previews?

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    Even the mere suggestion worries me, don't let any idiots ruin this film Sly! Overjoyed to hear Jerry's music is being used. We just need a decent official trailer now...

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Nice THEY LIVE reference

    by AdrianVeidt

    I came here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:32 p.m. CST

    There WILL be a part 5-

    by coscareally

    Proof: Rambo V http://tinyurl.com/36t62b

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Watch Rambo end up in Arlington, the

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    cemetery of heroes. Just my guess.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:35 p.m. CST

    The word you're looking for is WIMP

    by ErnieAnderson

    Whimpering is the noise wimps make. Don't wimp out and leave the mistake up. Correct it. You're professionals, right?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Hopefully better directed than the last Rocky

    by jah_kingdom

    The last Rocky movie was horrible, boring, the music score annoying, the dialouge seemed writen by a 2nd grader. I cant people actually liked it. honestly, i could only take it for 20 mins before i turned it off. And now someone has given stallone money to make another movie. it mystifys me. Oh, yeah above reviewer is an obvious plant.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:47 p.m. CST

    All this wouldn't have happened

    by Itto Ogami loses Daigoro

    If that Sheriff just let John get a bite to eat at the diner.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Can't Wait

    by Series7

    To watch this at Butt Numb A Thon this year.... if i was going. boo-hoo.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Hahahaha captboulder you support Van Damme

    by DOGSOUP

    Bwaahahahahahahaha!!! I guess the guy needs one fan...

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 1:05 p.m. CST

    captboulder

    by DirkD13"

    I couldn't agree with you more, here's a link you'll enjoy reading:<p>http://tinyurl.com/2nl8md

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 1:06 p.m. CST

    We need a film with what?!?!?!?

    by Diagnostic

    I could use a little Christmas right now.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 1:09 p.m. CST

    What is the title?

    by The Dum Guy

    The trailer in the theaters just says Rambo. Wasn't the second movie, technically, Rambo?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Message to Sly regarding DEATH WISH

    by mr sulu

    Rambo IV will rock - I cant wait!...Just wanna say something about the proposed Death Wish remake - Sly if you are reading this i would LOVE to see this being remade with yourself....I was recently mugged and beaten quite badly ending up in hospital...As part of my rehabilitaition I've been watching the original Death Wish and would love to see an update set present day. Fuckin muggers. Where Charles Bronsan when you need him?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Does the movie show Rambo's Asian HGH connection?

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    Can't wait to hear the theme. I hum the theme constantly to my wife, when I'm about to do something "Rambo-esque", like, take out the trash, but the trash is my wounded DEVGRU teammate. God, when will I grow up?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Plant

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    :)

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Rambo vs. Blackwater

    by kafka07

    if we see another sequel he should be in the North Carolina swamps annihilating Blackwater mercenaries.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 2:18 p.m. CST

    ABKing, as for the length...

    by Colonel Trautman

    The film was fairly short, maybe in the 90 minute plus zone. And I'm surprised I haven't been tarred as a plant by most of you kind folk. If I were a plant, I'd be a weed so you could all smoke me. I also wanted to add that I hope Stallone air-drops copies of this film all over Burma because it would be a great FU to the government.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST

    "bodies literally disappear in a red mist"...I've just cum!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    And again. And again. Rambo makes hetro-men cum blood. MMmmmmm.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Have a bad feeling about the January release

    by skimn

    dumping ground. But it should clean up at the box office after the holidays. And badmouth Van Damme all you want, at least he had the moxie/martial arts knowledge to work with John Woo, Ringo Lam and Hark Tsui. Okay, he also worked twice with Peter Hyams, but coke'll help you make bd judgements...and...didn't Carolco use Mr. Goldsmith's theme for years as their logo music?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Rambo: The Force of Freedom

    by GCH888

    I'm pretty certain that the Rambo animated series used the Goldsmith theme during the titles so surely (don't call me Shirley) it couldn't have been that difficult to obtain the rights to use the Goldsmith theme in this movie. So will there a cameo from General Warhawk and S.A.V.A.G.E.?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    What a coincidence

    by Internet Thug

    that a poster with the user name Col. Trautman would end up reviewing a sneak peek of RAMBO..what are the odds???

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Colonel Trautman, thanks!....90+ minutes of pure THRILLS!

    by ABking

    THIS movie is going to own JANUARY!!!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 2:59 p.m. CST

    If those MPAA pricks order cuts.....

    by riddleman1674

    FUCK THEM!! FUCK THEM IN THIER FUCKING ASSES, I say!! DO NOT fuck with gold, and that is what this film is vamping up to be!! Glorious blood splattering, head chopping, throat ripping, Rambo raping GOLD!! THANK YOU Mr. Stallone THANK YOU! I can't wait to see this movie!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3 p.m. CST

    death wish remake advice

    by slappy jones

    i remember a when stallone was posting on here and he mentioned that maybe kersey will start out as a cop..NO NO NO. he can't start out that way....he has to be an every man to whom the type of violence he engages in at the end is foreign to him. he can't be a cop. or if you really want to spice things up have him start out as a vigilante and end the film as an architect? but whatever you do don't make him a cop because then it is just another rogue cop film.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Temp Track

    by Musicballs

    Brian Tyler has not recorded his score yet, so the version this guy saw had Goldsmith TEMPED into the movie. Tyler will probably use Goldsmith's themes though.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Not Buying It

    by Teddy Artery

    Sorry, but no. I saw the same trailer as everyone else, and the motivation for the violence and the filmed action looked really, really, really bad.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    SLY, MAKE DEMOLITION MAN 2!

    by UMAGA

    Isn't it sad how action that isn't cut and flashy like today's films will feel fresh and exciting? "Holy shit! I saw what happened!".

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Trautman for president...of Iran

    by Bill Brasky

    Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy." In practice, it refers to sections of the general public who advocate the use of threats of or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what they perceive as their country's national interests. So...how does John Rambo, who stands for all the evil shit that we put our Vietnam vets through, perpetuate Jingoism? Dude, just because you want to sound smart and use a big, bad college word doesn't mean that people like BILL BRASKY won't go on to dictionary.com and look that shit up! Seriously though, Mr. Jingo-jango-jungo, Rambo went to Vietnam to rescue American soldiers who were listed as missing-in-action. The American government has never admitted that there were any MIA soldiers still being held captive in Vietnam. How does that perpetuate Jingoism if American foreign policy neither drove nor inspired any movement to rescue the over 2000 still missing servicemen? Oh, it is just Soooo Jingoistic…. And about RAMBO III…Somehow I guess that the Soviet Union’s aggressive foreign policy after they invaded Afghanistan wasn’t really the reason why John Rambo ventured into the land of the kings, it was really the United States’ Jingoistic (there’s that word again!!!) policies that inspired that tall tale. Troutman, you are a fraud. You know what you sound like to me, with your good big words and your cheap suit? You sound like a rube. A well scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Colonel Trautman? And that writing style you've tried so desperately to shed: pure West Virginia. What is your father? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you... all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars... while you could only dream of getting out... getting anywhere... getting all the way to the AICN.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST

    This film has balls...

    by biggles2_22

    ...I like balls. Dirkha, Dirkha, Mohammed Jihad!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Oh, and nice plant!

    by Bill Brasky

    Here's to Bill Brasky!!!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Plant

    by sevenrivera

    I know people just jump in and say plant all the time and I usually mock them, but this one really did stink of a plant. All the right criticisms and all the right buzzwords and references. The bow was wrapped up a little too neatly on this one. Sorry Trautman, I'm not buying it. Suck my balls, dude. My balls are dry.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Bill Brasky: Jingoist

    by Colonel Trautman

    Maybe you were suckling on your mom's teat in the 80's but I wasn't and FIRST BLOOOD 2 was JINGOISTIC for perpeuating the idea that all we had to do was go back to Nam and wipe out more evildoers in the name of freedom. Reagan was prez and Commies were our enemy and Hollywood fought that war all through the decade. Who was the bad guy in ROCKY 3? Hmmm? And RED DAWN and MIA 1234567 etc.? Sorry that one word could set you off so irrationally, but it stands. As you fall. BTW, "pure West Virginia"? WTF?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Plant This sevenrivera

    by Colonel Trautman

    "All the right criticisms and all the right buzzwords and references." Uh, what would be the wrong ones? But I'm sorry your balls are dry. Once your mom is done with mine I'll send her back your way. There, now it's starting to feel like an AICN talkback!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    It looks like more time has passed...

    by eXcommunicated

    ...in a montage...

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    You know, forget Rambo vs Predator

    by TheNorthlander

    Give us Aliens vs Rambo!<br> <br> And in the sequel, give us a Rambalien!<br> <br> Then let the Rambalien fight the predator.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Re: Van Damme

    by TheNorthlander

    I actually watched Bloodsport again recently and DAMN that movie sucked. The ONLY thing good about it was Bolo Yeung. Now that's a guy with on screen presence.<br> btw according to imdb he's currently making a film together with Mark Dacascos and Don "The Dragon" Wilson. How cool is that?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Political definitions aside

    by skimn

    Bill Brasky, I read the last half of your post, imagining the voice of Alec Baldwin channeling Hannibal Lecter, and had a blast..Kudos sir, kudos.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:17 p.m. CST

    First Blood is a classic... the other two... pffft

    by Razorback

    But I am looking forward to this one. I thought Rocky 6 was easily the third best in that series since it stayed within the less cartoony nature of the first two. So, I hope that Sly has created a First Blood sequel that stands up with the original.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Ok how about Rambo vs OCP

    by TheNorthlander

    RamboCop.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Bill Brasky

    by AdrianVeidt

    I'd understand you better if I could read through all the pretentiousness. Please tell me that you have legitimate street cred for your writing, otherwise "good prose" in a talkback for AICN is hardly something to boast about or feel accomplished.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Aw HELL YES!!!

    by spud mcspud

    That first trailer was just one big orgasm of beautifully choreographed violence. I REALLY want to see this movie. The violent 1980s return in glory!<P> RAAAAMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!<P> Stallone RULES. He just RULES.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST

    How much action??

    by coltrautman

    how much of the film was action?? like how long in until the fighting starts?? also, what do you mean by hard to watch? was there a rape scene? Hope the ending is fitting...but hopefully rambo doesnt die. I dont think he will, because ive heard rumors of a rambo 5

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Jingoism.

    by thegoddamedbatman

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Action...

    by Colonel Trautman

    I have to say the film builds up to the action so it's not by any stretch wall to wall. But Stallone really preps you so when it happens, it's off the hook. Oh, and PLANT.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Jingoism.

    by thegoddamedbatman

    Come on, by the conatative definition 2 and 3, were fairly jingoistic. If not intentionally, then because it was GO USA, and then Rambo blew up brown people and audiences cheered.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    name

    by coltrautman

    you are calling it "John Rambo" but isnt the filme called rambo?? did they have a title come accross the screen when you saw it?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Possible final one-sheet!

    by ABking

    http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/rambo_exclusive_peek_at_new_one_sheet/

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:10 p.m. CST

    ABking

    by TheNorthlander

    See the text beneath the "Post talkback" button?<br> What does it say?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Title...

    by Colonel Trautman

    I believe it said John Rambo but now I'm not sure...Wicked poster tho.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Fuck Van Damme

    by Unlabled

    I was arrested on one of his movie sets once, that bastard, I challenged him to a fight but he was nowhere to be seen. true story.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I want to read the article...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...and the TB but it keeps getting spooged with ABking's joy soy. Seriously, dude, try a cold shower.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Unlabled

    by skimn

    Arrested? Huh? Did you barge onto a movie set to pick a fight with Van Damme, and was arrested? And he was the bastard? Please expand...

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:47 p.m. CST

    ABQueen

    by Action Hero

    Geez, you're an embarrassment to other Stallone fans... and probably Sly, himself with your little girl fawning. Aren't you in your 40's? Why don't you post a timely update on your own site instead of torturing us with your gay posts, here.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:52 p.m. CST

    All those details

    by Internet Thug

    in that review including picking out the score..but you can't remember the title? Uh huh..

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 5:58 p.m. CST

    RAMBO'S classic running in slow motion?

    by ABking

    Are there any scenes of Rambo running in slow mo from an explosion? :)

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 6 p.m. CST

    I hope he takes on Islamists next.

    by Omegaman

    Thats what people want to see.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 6:12 p.m. CST

    rambo

    by ironic_name

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 6:13 p.m. CST

    rambo vs mclaine

    by ironic_name

    chuck norris wins.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Internet Thug...

    by Colonel Trautman

    I saw this last week under les than optimal conditions, so please by Zeus's beard forgive me. I also keep thinking JOHN RAMBO because it was announced here that it was the title. And one doesn't forget a stream of soundtrack music, especially Goldsmith's theme. So a plant would fess up to not quite remembering even though he's a plant? That makes sense.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 6:21 p.m. CST

    I hope they do keep the violence

    by CherryValance

    We'd all kinda be let down now if they took it out.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Great!

    by TattooedBillionaire

    Awesome review. I can't wait to see this.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Islamists? Nah, He should take on GW Bush

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Seeing that BushCo has killed more American soldiers than the phantom menace that is Islam ever has. I think Rambo should go to the White House and force them to adhere to the Constitution. I guess that would be too radical and controversial though...... Freedom and Democracy at home.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Cant fucking wait

    by WolfmanNards

    In the last decade Hollywood has failed to give us new kickass action stars to root for. because of this, the action stars of yore feel compelled to keep us entertained. Rocky and Rambo have come back. Mcclane came back. And boy have they given us a great show. I feel bad, but it is their duty to kickass because the pussy actioners of today just don't cut it. I'm looking at you 'The Rock' and 'Vin Diesel'

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 7:24 p.m. CST

    You seriously think Islamic radicals are a "phantom menace"?

    by vezner2007

    Get real dude. I wish I was a part of your dream world because it must be nice there with flowers and shit holding hands and hugging.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 8:19 p.m. CST

    "rambo blew up brown people"

    by Staldo

    Rambo II included the deaths of a fair amount of evil white people along with the brown people. Rambo III had him blowing up EXCLUSIVELY white people, and HELPING brown people. How much you wanna bet the white mercenary leader who goes with him in this one turns traitor or something and Rambo ends up once again as an equal-opportunity blower-upper?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Make the Death Wish guy a doctor...

    by The Dum Guy

    Then he'd have more inner conflict with his character for killing, and the fact that even if he's a doctor he can't fix his "bleading heart".

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 8:28 p.m. CST

    that would be "bleeding heart"

    by The Dum Guy

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 9:06 p.m. CST

    COL. TRAUTMAN: 1, BILL BRASKY: 0

    by BringingSexyBack

    pwned!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 9:09 p.m. CST

    DANCING WITH RAMBO VOL. 19: THE JIVE DEAD OR ALIVE

    by BringingSexyBack

    Pure fun as Rambo shows you how to kick the enemy's skull in with his unique jivin' style. Keep those ankles firm for maximum impact!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 9:14 p.m. CST

    DarfurOnTheRocks and his "Phantom Menace"

    by Bill Brasky

    On September 11, 2001, nineteen men boarded four planes; five each on American Airlines Flight 11, United Airlines Flight 175 and American Airlines Flight 77, four on United Airlines Flight 93. Fifteen of the attackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon. All were Muslims. The group consisted of six core organizers, which included the four pilots, and thirteen others. They were funded by the terrorist organization al-Qaeda and directed by Osama bin Laden. The idea for the September 11 plot came from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who first presented the idea to Bin Laden in 1996. They planned the attack primarily out of Afghanistan and used its Taliban government as a source of funds and security up until the US led invasion on October 4, 2001. Dude, you are fighting a battle that you can not win. We all know the deal. Yes, we say things like "not all Muslims are evil," and "lets not stereotype people" or "Islam is a religion of peace." Well, I am here to remind you that this did happen, and even if you discount al-Qaeda in Iraq, 70 other terrorist attacks have taken place around the globe since then, all by al-Qaeda and all in the name of Allah. (Peaceful?) Bali bombings, trying to shoot down a fully loaded Israeli jetliner, Australia bombings, Spanish and British train bombings, etc, etc, etc, SEVENTY! So, where is your phantom menace now? Yes, I am aware that there are many peaceful, great Muslims from around the world. I had an interpreter in Iraq that was one of my best friends for over a year. I would bring him to this great nation if I could, in a heartbeat! But denying that your religion is dealing with a major fundamentalist problem right now wouldn't just be myopic...it would be insane.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 9:18 p.m. CST

    ...and Col. Trautman...

    by Bill Brasky

    I was just fucking with you! Didn't you get the Silence of the Lambs reference? I just like to poke at big-word-users! I will have to say that it is the first time that anything that I have ever posted got a response from a reviewer! I fell all giddy inside! Jinoistic!!!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 9:20 p.m. CST

    and BringingSexyBack...

    by Bill Brasky

    Don't be rediculous. Just because we don't agree politically (wing-nut is your favorite insult, i believe) doesn't mean you can't get a little chuckle every once in a while!!! C'mon man, imagine if there were only Liberals in the world! Well, most of your paycheck would be taxed to shit, but you would be really bored without all of us crazy right wingers to hurl insults at!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 9:29 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by Bill Brasky

    play XBOX 360?

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 9:30 p.m. CST

    The Menace of Radicalism is Vastly Over-exagerated

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    When Bush decided to attack Iraq he killed 1 million Iraqi civilians. Yet this 1 million seems less significant to you than the 2000 lost on 9/11. Every life is precious that you seem to gloss over that.... Israel continues to commit genocide on the Palestinian people. Yet the US seems fine with giving them 30 billion this year. Islamic fundamentalism, Islamofacism, Jihadist are all quaint and simplistic ideas used by the powers that be to trick the populace into signing away their rights and invade other countries. All of this is done under the pretense that "they don't like the way we live." The sad part is that a lot of American actually believe this rhetoric. These Americans will claim to know more about Islam than Muslims themselves. This arrogant assumption of superiority was used to justify many a colonial invasion. Afterall, once you posit Muslim/Arab/other as something other than human, then you can slaughter them like animals and still consider oneself as a champion of human rights. That is why you cannot talk about Palestinian suffering at the hands of the IDF.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Darfur...er...whatever dork.

    by Bill Brasky

    Keep on believing that smoldering pile of shit that you are shoveling. I'll try not to think about the Pakistani PWC convoy commander (civillain) who, after talking about life, and soccer and our wives and all other shit then proceeded to tell me that "You know, all of the Jews who worked in the World Trade Center called in sick and did not come in to work on 9-11" Wake up man, you and your idealism is just plain wrong. I swear to God right now on this spot, I wish we could find a new alternative to oil so you and your barbaric friends could drink the shit and we would never have to set foot in your nasty part of the world, ever again.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Resorting to Name-calling Now Huh?

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Very classy. It is the recourse of those with no real compelling point. Once again, you gloss over the mess that colonialism has caused in Palestine and Iraq. Trying not to think is the main problem here. Please think of the mess that the US caused in Iraq. Please think of the mess that some want to start in Iran. Young American men and women are dying in the Iran for what? Democracy? No, the US supports Musharraf in Pakistan. Human Rights? No, no action is taken in Darfur or against Israel for Palestinian genocide. WMDs? I will not say more. It is about oil like you said. But from what I am gathering you do not really care about my "barbaric" friends?! Fair enough. But don't you think that Big oil should be at least compensating the good people of the US armed forces for their trouble? I mean it is clear that the government are not doing all that they can for vets. Perhaps Exxon could spare some of that 30 billion in profit that they made in a quarter? Your rights are being encroached upon and the Constitution pissed on..... and all you can think of is Islamofacism. Keep on going and don't think about it! Did you hear about Al-Qaeda's imminent cyber-attack that was supposed to cripple the net on Monday? That was almost as funny as the Jews that called in sick. Apparently, these bad people set up T1 lines and became hackers to fight the Great Demon! Seriously.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Bill Brasky...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    you didnt mention the part about the high explosives secretly planted in the wtc weeks in advance to 9/11 - during "emergency" maintenance sessions - some lasting into the night - floor by floor - you know - the same explosives that made the towers implode like a pile of balsa wood - the same explosives that wiped out the sub basement blowing the plaster off the lobby walls right after the first plane hit - where does god fit into all of this - there is no such thing - we invented him so we could sleep at night and not worry about dieing

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST

    i bet you listen to country music and go to church... YEEEHAW!!!

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:28 p.m. CST

    ever stick your weener into a hot apple pie?...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    god bless us all

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:29 p.m. CST

    i thought gays getting married was our biggest threat

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST

    what are your thoughts on blackwater...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    will they be the hired army that keeps us in check here at home in the future

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST

    where the hell is my flying car...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    we have been promised those for so long - i want to ride in one with my gay tri-racial clone and our gay clone offspring - wait - we will harvest that first one for parts - then have a second and fly around with that one - oh - and i liked first blood - paradise alley was good too - party at kitty and studs was okay

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:16 p.m. CST

    WHOA BILL THAT WAS A BIT HARSH, NO?

    by BringingSexyBack

    Darfur's definitely someone you can have a worthwhile debate/convo with. His perspective is, needless to say, unique, valuable, informative and intelligent. Give peace a chance, dude!<p> I don't have an Xbox 360 and my old Xbox is gathering dust because all my free time is spent on competitive reality shows (Project Runway premiered tonight - 2 good looking girls this season) and fucking AICN. I might give my Xbox and game collection away this Christmas to a needy family.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST

    DANCING WITH RAMBO VOL. 20: BALLET OF BLOOD

    by BringingSexyBack

    Elegant and deadly describes this hauntingly beautiful dance. Rambo shows how you too can be light on your toes, yet heavy on the killing.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    DANCING WITH RAMBO VOL. 21: RIVEROFBLOODDANCE

    by BringingSexyBack

    Blending Irish stepdance with American firepower, Rambo is set to conquer the world with this exhilarating new dance. Soundtrack combines traditional Celtic music and the sounds of massive ordnance.

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:41 p.m. CST

    At Ease!

    by Colonel Trautman

    Brasky, no, I didn't get the SOTL ref as I've only seen it once (gasp!). So no worries. As long as BringingSexyBack thinks I pwned you, all is well. And DarfurOnTheRocks has cogent points. Now everybody relax. The enemy wants us to fight one another. Yes people, I feel that my work here is done. Like RAMBO...only on a web site. Plant!

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Stop...

    by Colonel Trautman

    ...you're killing me BSB. I would pay big bucks for Dancing With Rambo...

  • Nov. 14, 2007, 11:52 p.m. CST

    COLONEL TRAUTMAN - YOU WILL RECEIVE A FREE BOX SET

    by BringingSexyBack

    of all Dancing With Rambo DVDs along with a free gift of an accessory rocket launcher and waterboarding kit. Courtesy of Mr. Stallone and the new Attorney General.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Rambo Vs Arnold Vs Predator Vs Aliens

    by toro004

    'nuff said...

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 12:21 a.m. CST

    A movie with balls, huh?

    by darthbinks1220

    Rambo pulling out bin Laden's throat is balls, not this. That's what happens when you're too close to the Hollyweird-left, I guess. Oh well, bring on Burma! *sigh*

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 12:53 a.m. CST

    So the Goldsmith material was temped?

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Ok.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 1:50 a.m. CST

    RAMBO IS GONNA BE THE BALLS

    by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 5 a.m. CST

    At least SLY is trying....

    by y7jver01

    Im not sure how its gonna come off... But im rootin for ya!! (Loved ROCKY BALBOA as well)

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 5:51 a.m. CST

    What? No AnimalStructure post?

    by DocPazuzu

    I was sure he'd have something to say about that no-good commie bastard, comrade John "Hammer & Sickle" Rambo-Chi-Minh.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 6:01 a.m. CST

    does anyone know

    by christpunchers2007

    what happened to that arnold vs sly project?

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Yes, stale possum shit...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...and the gobbets of dried squirrel gravy festooned upon his scabrous chin and bib.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 6:49 a.m. CST

    DANCING WITH RAMBO VOL. 21: MOAB MOAD

    by BringingSexyBack

    It's Rambo's new "Mother Of All Dances", with equal doses of flash, pizazz and depleted uranium! Be the life (and the death) of the party! Let Rambo show you how!

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 7:03 a.m. CST

    DANCING WITH RAMBO VOL. 22: DISCO INFERNO

    by BringingSexyBack

    Take over the dance floor - as well as the village - to this cool classic disco tune! Burnin', Burnin', that's Rambo's motto!<p> Includes teflon-coated white disco suit. Please specify size.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 7:29 a.m. CST

    don't forget the Ki-Ki-Ki-Ma-Ma-Ma music LP

    by just pillow talk

    I think he speaks parseltongue.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Mark Dacascos Should Be in Dancing With Stars

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    After seeing him as the chairman of iron Chef America is can definitely say that he's got soul. He could blend his martial arts training with the Pasa Doble.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 8:22 a.m. CST

    hmm...and here I thought his first language

    by just pillow talk

    was batshit craziness...

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 8:42 a.m. CST

    "I've well and truly baited him now."

    by DocPazuzu

    More than you know, Jarv, and not in the way you think. See, AnimalScrotum considers Nazis and Fascists to be (I shit you not) left-wingers. This is so that he can say (which he often has) that there is "no such thing" as a right-wing dictatorship. <p> AnimalStricture has reached the ultimate and outer limit of right-wing extremism. The singularity and event horizon surrounding AnimalCracker's black hole of political assholism is what accounts for the sudden upending of all common sense and the absence of basic decency as soon as they are in danger of penetrating his atrophied cerebellum.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 8:48 a.m. CST

    BringinSexyBack

    by Bill Brasky

    I asked you if you had the 360 so that we could talk on-line. Anyway, you don't have one, so let me just say this: I am definitely a foreign policy hawk...no doubt about that. I just don't want to be pigeonholed because of those beliefs. Other than that, I am absolutely a moderate and even a liberal on many things. Shit man, I don't care if people smoke weed or a woman wants to get an abortion. Gays want to be married? Go ahead! I don't go to church, I don’t own a gun, and I don't even have any Toby Keith records. Bottom Line: Not all people who have the foreign policy ideas that I have are crazy right wing religious 'wing-nuts.' Hell, why would I be interested in sci-fi, movies, comics, etc, enough to check out this site ever day? I just believe that we live in a great nation that deserves a little more respect than some people give it on these talkbacks. There MUST be an opposing voice in any dialogue, or it becomes something less than a discussion. Your thoughts?

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 8:54 a.m. CST

    PLANT. Next.

    by uss cygnus

    Please.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 9:09 a.m. CST

    "Trolling With The Stars"

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ha! Lost Jarv - I'll second that. I would like to personally nominate Jar Jar 4 Prez (aka several banned aliases too numerous to mention).<P>And I think Phartegod is now going by the name FartGod the IRStard...or something to that effect.<P>A rogues gallery, indeed.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 9:44 a.m. CST

    proceeds should go to FTB...

    by just pillow talk

    There is no higher cause. Well, larger anyway...he-he...

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 9:52 a.m. CST

    "Trolling with the Stars"

    by DocPazuzu

    Needs more Elvis Cole Lives and vikingkitty.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Brasky and West Virginia

    by kbass

    Whoa...hold on there with the West Virginia slams. You can harbor all of the right wing conspiracy theories you want, but to casually besmirch an entire state which (on a per capita basis)lost more soldiers in Vietnam than any other is just plain crap. And by the way, that "coal miner" you so easily diss is responsible for more than half of the electricity in this country, much of which is used to power "this here thing called the internet." Cut me a break Brasky. Where are you from? Gotham City? Metropolis? Or some other epicenter of culture and wisdom. Sheesh! If you're an example of big city living, I'll take little old West Virginia any day. Almost Heaven, baby! By the way, Trautman, you're welcome to visit any time.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 10:11 a.m. CST

    then all merchandise fees go to FTB...

    by just pillow talk

    the mugs will be big sellers I predict...<p>Warwick can MC the event.<p>That's okay...Rosie is in the wings to take the Bates' place.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST

    some more 'genocide'

    by m2298

    http://www.beyondimages.info/b110.html

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 10:44 a.m. CST

    BILL BRASKY

    by BringingSexyBack

    I appreciate your candor and respect your position, though there are some relatively minor disagreements there. I'm a foreign policy dove (not to be confused with capitulating to dictators and hawks) because I believe, first and foremost, in diplomacy and non-violent means of achieving our goals. On social issues I'm moderate (I believe marraige is between a man and woman, but support gay unions) and financially, I'm very Conservative. I oppose illegal aliens (I don't even call it illegal immigration, because immigration is a process of law). <p> I'm not naive to think that there are no evil people out there. Just today I was listening to NPR about women in Basra being murdered by militants seeking to impose Sharia law on Iraq. That story also points out a clear truth - that the vast majority of Muslims are suffering from radicalism. A lot of rhetoric - including the term "Islamofascism", which was coined in the offices of The Weekly Standard, is invented precisely to avoid diplomacy and to instill fear and hatred, and to instigate war. As a modern society with a vast resource of information and discourse, we as nations and peoples should not be so easily conned into hating for hate's sake.<p> Anchorite's posting last week is an example of such fear mongering. Incredulously, he called for an escalation in violence, without regard for innocent lives or 'collateral damage', to, in his words, be "brutal and inhumane". That was probably the ugliest post I've read on AICN to date.<p> I believe my country - America - is indeed the greatest nation this planet has ever seen. I want it to continue being that greatest nation. No other country inspires the world like we do. Please remember, too, that we are an inspiration to the Arab world. Most Arabs and Muslims would like to live in a moderate society, seeing us as a shining example, to experience freedoms without fear. I think our actions in the Mideast should be conducted in such a way that we are looked upon with admiration and not disgust. I believe that is achievable. <p> It's a genuine credit to our reputation, and a sign of respect, that most people in the world continue to view our foreign policy as separate from us as a people, a society. If we can moderate our foreign policy, and continue to inspire the world with our conduct and our way of life, we will indeed win the war on terrorism - by leading nations toward democracy by example. To inspire people to reject fascism and radicalism and see that the alternative is the better choice for them and their people.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    I'D LIKE TO PARTNER WITH MIDOL GIRL

    by BringingSexyBack

    for the Dancing With The Trolls competition. I heard she's a 'spinner' ;)

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    If they cut the violence and make this movie PG-13....

    by redboar

    Everybody dies!!! LOL Not quite as good as Tracy Smothers would do it in person though. RB

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 11:20 a.m. CST

    vikingkitty!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Good call, DocPaz.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 11:31 a.m. CST

    BSB

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    It's disheartening to read that post of yours when I'm reminded that you advocate the belief that a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11. Or, has that view softened?<P>As for anchorite's post, I believe I saw the one to which you are referring. While I don't necessarily believe he was actually calling for a "Roman Victory/Carthaginian Peace", I do think he should have explained himself. Because if it was anything beyond a modest proposal, he's no better than that soulless fuck, AnimalStructure.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Anybody seen Richie?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    I keep coming back until someone REMEMBERS seeing Richie!

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    NICE GAIUS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Let's just say that we have not had a proper investigation into 9/11. No, I'm not convinced that what struck the Pentagon was a plane. If there is evidence (and yes, the American people are owed that evidence) - physical or otherwise - we need to see and examine it. Even the videos they released so far show no plane. And there are unreleased videos yet to be released. Why are they being held in secret? I'm not saying that the terrorists didn't do the deed, but there are a lot of unanswered questions and I believe we only know a fraction of the full truth.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 12:20 p.m. CST

    captboulder

    by TheNorthlander

    I hear that. The world needs more Bolo Yeung.<br> Why isn't he in Rambo 4??

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 12:21 p.m. CST

    LOST JARV

    by BringingSexyBack

    I thought you said 'competing". I'd rather dance with Midol Girl though. Any chance I can get to fondle her smooth bosom ...

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Gonna be a hard "R"...

    by idahomer

    if this one-sheet is for real. Sweet!<p> http://tinyurl.com/2yb6ne

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 1:16 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Well, while I'm not opposed to further investigations into the events of that day, I'll just say that I'm glad a few of my friends and acquaintances are not prone to hallucinations.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Mr. Timberlake, I applaud you!

    by Bill Brasky

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by Bill Brasky

    That last post was sent prematurely... Anyway, you said it better than I could have and for that, I thank you. We may have our differences, but the main points that you touched on we both agree. The thing that really nags the shit out of me on these talkbacks are the people like Animal Structure and Achorite (Anchorite I have agreed with from time to time, although I have not read the post that you commented on) is that they are hypocritical assholes. Not to be cliché, but these guys probably haven't even picked up a BB gun in their lives, much less a rifle and gone to war at their country's bidding. Since I signed on the dotted line way back in 1990, I have spent nearly 1000 days in combat zones. The Gulf War, Somalia, and now Afghanistan and Iraq. Not once was I EVER happy to be there or comfortable that I was going to wake up tomorrow. These idiots want to ESCALATE??? What the fuck? Again, we differ on some foreign policy issues, but I am not an idiot. I would rather chew on broken glass than have to go back to Anbar or Bagdad. Talkbackers like these guys have nothing to worry about. It's not their asses that will be on the line when we 'escalate' any war. Maybe that's why they are so Gung-Ho on talking about it.; and the collateral damage? That shit infuriates me as well. Anyone who says shit like that talks out of his ass. That was a rant, and I am sorry that I lost my bearing, but idiots like these guys give me a bad name.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    just because you signed on the dotted line...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    doesnt make you right - a lot of guys signed up and fought - and they have a different opinion on the war - why we are there and how we are handling it - the war in iraq was/is a big mistake - and if you cant accept it -thats your problem - enlisting and serving is very noble - but not every war is - we shouldve stayed focused on afganastan - doesnt it bug you that so many are being sent into battle by a few assholes that didnt have the balls to serve during viet nam - this stuff is all designed and orchestrated by the least qualified - and guys like you pay for it in mental health and blood - there are record numbers of vets attempting and committing suicide right now - maybe its because they come home and realize the whole country sees this fiasco for what it is - a monumental waste of lives and money

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Hope they don't cut any of this...

    by football

    ... and instead give us a sucky uncut dvd a year later. I want to see this just as our reviewer saw it. If this has a 70's vibe then count me in as the seventies was the Golden Decade of modern cinema IMO. Glad Stallone's revisting that type of film again with first Rocky then Rambo and now Death Wish. Hey, Sly you got a new convert to your new era of movies.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Rambo in USA Today...

    by idahomer

    Nice little write-up about the movie in today's paper. Even a front page blurb.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe"I'm not surprised that RED is in your name"Sky

    by Bill Brasky

    You don't know what you are talking about. I never tried to tell you that I was right; I was expressing my opinion. This is a conversation between BSB and me. I agree with a lot of your/his points. If you had bothered to read my post instead of trying to flame me at the first possible opportunity, maybe you wouldn't have written such a ham-handed response. Oh, and about the suicides? Yeah, I watched Katie tell us all about it on the CBS evening news the other night. You are just SO ENLIGHTENED!!! Your opinions are yours but don’t try to spell it all out like gospel to me. Oh, and by the way, the WHOLE country doesn’t see things like you do; the WHOLE country doesn’t see it as a waste and as a monumental mistake. Maybe the majority, but not the whole. That was my point in the post. Not everyone is a damn drone! You point the finger at me while you spout the same shit over and over again that has been ingrained in your head by Moveon.org and George Soros. Oh, and guess what? To your disappointment, the fucking surge is working!!! Civilian and military deaths were down in October and will be even lower in November. October saw the lowest amount roadside bombs since November 2003. Maybe we can actually get out of Iraq in a year or two without destroying what is left of our pride by “Bringing home the troops now!!!” But no, you made up your mind when Michael Moore and Howard Dean (Yeeaaahhh!!!!) told you that it was a losing effort. Let me tell you dude, I remember (vaguely) what this country went through after we ‘lost’ in Vietnam. I’m not really sure that I want to live thought that shit again.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by just pillow talk

    Unless I've read Bill Brasky's post incorrectly, he's agreeing that the war is a mistake, specifically escalating the Iraq War. If anything, he would agree with what you said (don't want to put words in your mouth Bill...sure you will respond).

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 2:58 p.m. CST

    whoops...Bill beat me to it

    by just pillow talk

    never mind about the 'mistake' part too.<p>And while I was never for the war, I most certainly hope that some sort of "normalcy", for lack of a better word, returns to Iraq so that the soldiers can all come home (or at least most anyway).

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Oh, wait. It's RamBONE!

    by shagdrum

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    this is how i know it's going to be not bad...

    by BigTexas42

    "Sly keeps his dialogue to a minimum through the film" and while i like a nice explosion and massive guns and "red mist" as much as anyone else, I'd preffer to see the hand-to-hand, sneak up behind you and tear your head off shit that would make Mel Gibson smile widely. Let's get some of dat up in der.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Brasky...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i have read your posts - and you like to call people that disagree with you assholes etc. - the war in iraq was a mistake - and any success the "surge" might be having is moot - we shouldve never invaded iraq - im not a drone - you are - for you to admit the war you yourself had to fight in was a mistake would fry your wiring - you had to take orders and fight in a war that shouldve never been started - by us - im not anti war by the way - its an ugly necessity - im anti stupid pointless war - your a true red white and blue sheep - and like i said before - your not the only one in here thats been over there - but an you love to throw that around - i knew guys like you - scary - the usa can do no wrong - the plain truth is there are a lot of guys that serve for the wrong reasons - theyre deluted and just want to shoot some shit up - i know some and im sure you do to - for good or ill theyre very effective when he shit hits the fan - but theyre hard to turn off - weed and penthouse aint enough - have you got any whiskey pete stories you can share

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 7:05 p.m. CST

    I liked this review

    by 5 by 5

    It was neat-o. Looks good for Sly to create the magic again.

  • Nov. 15, 2007, 10:54 p.m. CST

    This movie will be sooooo f'in cool

    by Dr Gregory House

    Fellas, if ya ain't lookin' forward to this flick, its time to turn in your Man Card.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 1:31 a.m. CST

    The_Lion!!!!

    by DocPazuzu

    Ahahahahahahahha!!!! Holy shit what an asshole! Talk about a complete backfire for the poor bastard. Even Kevin Smith haters piled onto that guy. Absolute wipeout.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Man, I can't believe...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...we forgot to mention moviemack! Not only a troll, but the ultimate hater as well. <p> Oh, and fucking MinasTirithII!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Regina Taylor...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is she the one who in every talkback even remotely associated with a smokin' hot woman always says: "I just don't get what the big deal is about her"?

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 6:33 a.m. CST

    re coco

    by DocPazuzu

    While the great cocolopez flame-out is one of my most cherished memories here on AICN, I do miss the guy. He's but a shadow of his former self, sadly.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 6:34 a.m. CST

    M-O-M...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...was just as obnoxious and condescending when he was known as BladeRunnerUnit. A supreme tool.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by spud mcspud

    I'm deeply hurt by your non-inclusion of my root tubular self in you Trolling for Pennies (or whatever) show. Not only have I shown exceptional baiting skills toward Smashing and Tegujai Batir about my supposed homophobia (officially the AICN TB term for one who dislike's RTD's writing style in Dr Who), but I have had some classic clashes with M-O-M about Eli Roth and torture porn. I'll put up a link to it in a bit if anyone's THAT bored.<P> I also admitted on the CLOVERFIELD TB to actually enjoying the Emmerich GODZILLA. Surely that gets me troll status!!

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Spud vs M-O-M on Eli Roth's HOSTEL: TORTURE PORN EDITION

    by spud mcspud

    Can't find the link, and nobody's that bored. Remember lots of serious slagging off with Spazatronic2000, though.<P> Ah, the old days.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 7:07 a.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by spud mcspud

    He does seem very well versed in horror lore - I mean, he's named after a notoriously nasty movie that I hadn't even heard of until all this Torture Porn bollocks. He does go off on one occasionally, but who among all of us isn't guilty of THAT?<P> Like, to wind YOU up and fget you going, all I have to say is...<P> GORDON BROWN VS DAVID CAMERON. WHOEVER WINS - WHO LOSES?<P> You'd be here all day ;D

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Jarv - About Batir

    by spud mcspud

    He's surely a contradiction in terms - I mean, a militant homosexual?*<P> *The Spud would like to point out that he's very aware of the militant homosexual agenda, and how it relates to Doctor Who. Spud further submits that if HE were represented in the flagship children's TV show of the century by John Barrowman and the clusterfuck that is Torchwood, he too would consider himself a militant homosexual.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Jarv - Back on topic

    by spud mcspud

    Whatchoo think about RAMBO? Personally, I think this movie will make Bruce Willis ashamed he even admitted to LIKING Live Free or Suck Hard, let alone saying it's better than DIE HARD (Fucking heretic! Bastard shill!!!). I think RAMBO will make us all remember the awesomeness of action movies back in the day, and weep for the likes of Vin Diesel (such promise there, too) and The Rock (I KNOW comedy is more popular, less risky, and pays more, but just get back to KICKING FUCKING ASS, OKAY?!?)<P> I must stop using all these Americanisms. It's KICK ARSE, NOT kick ass. And me a Midlander.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 7:44 a.m. CST

    RE Dr Who

    by spud mcspud

    After hearing their ideas about Rhys Ifans and John Simm for the Season 5 Doctor, and what they did to Martha's character - potentially a great character, so much promise and potential in the pilot, asking questions that Rose Tyler was so thick she's NEVER think of, being as scientifically minded and logical as the Doctor - was unforgiveable. I've written a lot about how I don't understand why RTD can't write gay characters in Who without resorting to banging the drum for gay rights, but here he's fucked up the opportunity to convincingly portray a contemporary black family in London. Everyone's either a rap-loving potential criminal (her brother) or portrayed as "black who wants to be white" (her mum and dad". I don't think RTD understands how to convincingly write characters that are of different social or racial spheres than his - which is kind of ironic, isn't it?<P> Bottom line: Catherine Tate will nail down the coffin lid on the RTD era that RTD put a lid on himself with Martha Potter and the Chamber of the Master, where the whole finale coud've been wrapped up by Martha's mum throwing Dobby Who a sock, but no, it had to be an under-written, poorly plotted, massively illogical (I can almost HEAR RTD'S booming Welsh lilt roaring at anyone who spots a plot hole, "But it's sci-fi!!!") drudge of an episode that was just unforgiveable shit. I mean, ripping the ending off FLASH FUCKING GORDON???<P> I'm actually not looking forward to Season 4 at all. I will watch it, if only for things to argue with Smashing and Tegujai Batir about. But I have next to no hope for this series now. Bring in Moffat before it gets put out of its misery.<P> ROBIN HOOD is actually more weatchable right about now. And that's after an extremely rocky, amateurish first half of Season 1, too...

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Fair point

    by spud mcspud

    The thought of Max Von Sydow as The Master is too delicious to ignore. He'd have made mincemeat even of Tennant, who is formidable but no match for Ming The Merciless.<P> Hell, he even got out of JUDGE DREDD with his dignity intact! Which, by the way, I also enjoyed, though it could've been much, much better.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 8:34 a.m. CST

    RE: Tegujai Batir

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    He was actually Jar Jar 4 Prez. (Trust me, I know.) JJ4P was also Oscar Wilde 4 Prez, Vog From Dimension X, by by, Mr Mean Gaius, Son of Batman, and on and on and on...

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 8:35 a.m. CST

    The_Lion

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    HA!

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    How do I know? He admitted it. :^)<P>JJ4P/Tegujai Batir/& Co. all had the same "tells". And since he and I had a somewhat bitter rivalry, it was becoming easier and easier to spot him when he returned under a new guise. The fact that he hasn't come back (since his Tegujai Batir incarnation) is actually kind of interesting. The guy was a relentless asshole who didn't know when to quit. Either he's lost heart, learned his lesson, or is biding his time.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Laughing

    by Grimlock22

    The preview of the new Rambo film played before American Gangster this weekend, and all I can say is that a large number of people in the theater burst into laughter when the trailer started playing. I'm a huge Stallone fan, but I don't think it bodes well when a hardcore action movie, like this is supposed to be, gets laughter as it's primary reaction.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 10:04 a.m. CST

    RTD Writes Gays as if they are ALL into Casual Relationships.

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    It is something that I have a problem with. Can't we have at least one bloody stable relationship. Torchwood is just over the top in that category. As such, I think that RTD does gays a massive disservice.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST

    You are Right Jarv

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    It is straight people as well. It would be nice to have a couple of people hooked up in long term relationships.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 12:40 p.m. CST

    TRAILER

    by Colonel Trautman

    They realy need to cut a new RAMBO trailer that doesn't look it was time warped from 1985. That first gory trailer would do everything and some, even toned down.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 12:43 p.m. CST

    erm, Tango and Cash sequel

    by mrbong

    sorry, just didn't see anyone else writing that. Demo Man 2 would be most smart, especially if that Bullock woman gets killed off early on, or is just not in it. President Leary!

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 2:57 p.m. CST

    re the MOM-BRU connection

    by DocPazuzu

    BRU was banned but if you do a search for "BladeRunnerUnit" online you can find tons of posts on other boards which are still available. When you read them, you will no longer have any doubt. Seriously, how many other Portuguese people online have the exact same obsessions and write in exactly the same manner and piss off people in equal measure? If MOM were suddenly banned and came back under a different name, posting in the same way, how many people would be fooled? There is no hesitation on my part - MOM is BRU.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 3:42 p.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by Bill Brasky

    Hey, thanks for the back up. And for the record, I was against the war; I do think that it was a mistake. I debated my friends for hours during the late fall and early winter of 2002/03 on why we shouldn't go in. They all laughed at me and told me that I was wrong. Now, five years later, I don't stand there and make comments to them or talk shit. We did it, we fucked up, but now we need to fix things. Not just cut and run like some of these genius posters want to do. And PS, I guarantee that much of this attitude (on both sides) comes from party lines. If Bill Clinton had launched the same invasion in 1994 or 1995 (which he almost did in 1998 - Operation Desert Fox), the majority of the people protesting right now would be more focused on the 'freedom' that the Iraqis have and how much better their health system is getting, etc. In fact, before the war started, I seem to remember many of my liberal friends always use this as a talking point: "We should have just finished the job when we had the chance." Sound familiar to anyone out there? Yeah, go ahead and lie to yourself about it too. Whatever. It is just like a broken record trying to discuss this with some people. And RedSky, how the FUCK dare you try to psycho-analyze me, throwing porn and weed into the equation. That simple, idiotic statement laid out how just how you feel about military men and women. You don’t know shit about a soldier or Marine. You don’t know what we go through and you have no grounds to complain about how we use our war experiences in arguments like this. Go hit your bowl and stroke to your porn, I have work to do…whether I agree with it or not.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Hooah Motherfuckers!

    by Bill Brasky

    here's to Bill Brasky!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    no problem Bill...

    by just pillow talk

    As much as I oppose the war, I certainly hope that we can straighten it out so that Iraq can have a fighting chance of succeeding from tearing itself apart. <p>Do you know anyone who has/is stationed in Afghanistan? The increase in attacks is very disturbing, along with the lack of stability of our 'friend' Pakistan.

  • Nov. 16, 2007, 6:12 p.m. CST

    The DL on the AFG

    by Bill Brasky

    No, sorry man, don't know anyone over there now. I was there in the early part of the operation, 2002-03 in and out of Kabul and Khandahar. At the time I was part of a light Cav (HMMWV) unit supporting SF. I'm in Artillery now and there aren't any Artillery assets in that part of the world. I have read some docs about it and do know some things. I'm no Colonel or anything, just an old fart Captain, but I hear shit. Things are things there. Every spring/summer, the jihadists come down from the mountains and begin a campaign. Ever winter they go back accross the border and hide. It is a tricky situation that one, but I don't really think that they will ever have the funding or manpower to overthrow the new AFG government. The AFG soldiers that I trained with were damn good, better even than the Iraqi soldiers who have had 5 years of hands-on with US forces. And this was back in 2003. I think that AFG will have a much brighter future then IRQ if things were to stop in place right now and we all got on boats and came home. Just my opinion.

  • Nov. 17, 2007, 8:45 a.m. CST

    BILL BRASKY

    by BringingSexyBack

    Hey Bill sorry for the late reply, I had the damned white screen of doom yesterday and forgot about this TB. <p> I'm glad quite a few of us here are meeting in the middle ground and discussing issues with a clearer head. I found your last 2 posts extremely enlightening. I can see how your experience prior to the invasion (as an opposer) leading to the aftermath (as a supporter in that you want to remedy the situation) is totally logical, practical and deeply humanitarian. As much as we want our troops/fellow citizens to come home, it is indeed a frightening prospect for Iraq when they do so. Bush and the NeoCons have made possibly the biggest blunder in the history of human warfare. Time will (hopefully not) tell. <p> Thanks for having a clear head to clear the air. This is what the ideal situation should be - intelligent, informed discourse where both sides not only listen, but learn from each other. And I can tell you I learned a lot. Many thanks!

  • Nov. 18, 2007, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Sir? Do we get to win this time?

    by Det. John Kimble