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Ki-Ki-Ki-Ma-Ma-Ma!! Are We Ready For A Bayified FRIDAY THE 13th Remake?? Well, It's Got A Script And A Director!!
Merrick here...
Marcus Nispel is setting up his deal to direct the Michael Bay produced remake of FRIDAY THE 13th. Jason will wear a hockey mask, and the setting will still be Crystal Lake. So says THIS ARTICLE in Hollywood Reporter.
Nispel directed the better-than-it-could've been TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE for Bay back in 2003, and the not-as-good-as-it-should've been PATHFINDER- which was unceremoniously drop kicked into theaters earlier this year after many delays in release. PATHFINDER was the Native Americans -vs- Vikings piece starring Karl Urbones.
The FRIDAY THE 13th remake was scripted by Damian Shannon and Mark Swift. They wrote FREDDY -VS- JASON...soooo...
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Anyway, Jason in a hockey mask? So this is a remake of - at the outside - Friday pt 2, right? I don't see how this remotely relates to the original movie.
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The only thing I'm interested in is who they'll get to play that girl in the daisy dukes. She was smoking hot.
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bandwagon is officially saying Hollywood is out of original ideas.
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Crap. If only I had been signed in. As for this film: It's at the point where I just lie back and try to enjoy it. This is slightly less heinous than the 'Poltertgeist" remake, but still kinda unecesarry.
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No offense, but it is part 3 where he puts on the mask.
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it definitely wasn't good, but it wasn't awful either. A very mediocre filmmaker is Nispel, much like Paul WS Anderson I suppose. I saw The Hitcher remake that Bay produced, that was just so bad it was funny, none of it made a lick of sense. Bay should stick to directing, I love most of his films, pure popcorn cheese. Anyone who says otherwise is a cunt... just kidding, but seriously, you are!
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but the killer's Jason, AND he has a hockey mask, it seems more like a mash up of all the F. the 13th movies into one. If so I hope they keep the hitchhiking kid with his cool sign and his banana. And the black kid on the manhattan roof!
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Even more so than 300. I absolutely detested every single minute of Pathfinder, it should have kicked so much ass, and wound up being one of the most boringfilms I have ever seen.Also, wasn't Nispel the guy originally set to direct End Of Days, before he wrote a list of silly demands that were made public and then ridiculed by his peers?
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They just keep on beating dead horses, and people still eat it up. Seems as though remakes are the greatest new trend in cinema. Very sad indeed. Let's see something new and creative.
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then dazzles him with his freshly shaved scrotum before hacking him into reality show oblivion!
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Someone would have said it eventually!
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The 2006 version was fucking awful. This could be fun.
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Damn it all to hell Hollywood...
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Like Coaxial news.
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Not a chance. Not a...chance.
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or "The film has it's problems for sure but".
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I was utterly hypnotised by her melons in a basket for every moment of that movie. For weeks I defended that movie - "It's not so bad" - to everyone I knew, until I realised it was just the rack of Biel that I loved so much about it.
Cue another slick, supersaturated colour remake, full of non-acting sexy-as-holy-hell cheerleader model types and boys from the "chiselled OC" school of non-charisma. At least it'll be fun seeing those fuckers get sliced up. Well, it would be if the film were any good. Which it won't be. -
...After FULL METAL JACKET, doing THE FRIGHTENERS and the TCM remake just ruined everything great he did in that Kubrick masterpiece. Now when I watch FMJ, I wonder where Michael J Fox is in the background.
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There are certainly enough of them!
Also, include a FAQ with the agreed upon 'good' remakes and WORSE remakes. I think F13 reboot will be
great, just wish the Quentin rumour
from a few years ago was true. Having the hockey mask, etc. makes this Ultimate Friday the 13th. Not sure why that moniker wasn't used for Halloween. That is what it was. -
R Lee Ermey gotta eat
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Jason will get a new back story: A long time ago at the run down Camp Crystal Lake, Jason was playing ice hocky one winter for the Mighty Ducks. Unfortunatly, the coucelers were having an orgy and Jason broke through the ice and drowned, oh and he has a skin deformity brought on by nuclear testing. Oh and it was on a Friday. A Friday the 13th. Then when lightning struck the lake, he was regenerated and at first he was a peaceful, yet retarded, fellow. Until one day he tripped and landed near a machete and he decided and actually says “It’s time to ICE these fools.” You see Jason is now a streetwise hood who in a twist of fate was sent to the camp to curb his gangsta ways by roughing it in the wild. Now he’s back and he wants revenge because someone took ACTUAL footage of him in the annuls of camp history will now forever be know as, the Friday the 13th massacres.
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...in that entire series. Part three was dogshit. I loved Jason's look in part two...the pillow case over his head was far more scary than the stupid hockey mask. That and he was a real human in part two...not a huge, unstoppable behemoth. He looked awesome at the end too:
http://tinyurl.com/267tqj
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They film Pathfinder with mud on the lens?? That was one of the most horrible looking movies ever. Why do a movie set entirely in nature, just to make it look like they filmed the whole thing in a mud hut. It isn't that hard to make an enjoyable Viking/Warrior movie. Fuck The Rock's was oscar worthy compared to Pathfinder. See I guess I was hoping that the reviews were just being lame like always and that this would just be a movie for the boys, just dumb brute action. Like a Viking Transporter. But no this movie was painful to site through. It could have been awesome.
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Jason is gonna kill all the guys driving the SUV's with Bush stickers on it, and the girl that drives the Prius with the "US out of Iraq" sticker will be the only one who survives. Jason as eco-liberal warrior, you know that's what you all want to see! Seriously, Time to reimagine "Jaws", Close Encounters" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" as well...
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All things considered.
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Disney has announced that The Rock and Martin Short will take over the roles filled by Denver Pyle and Slim Pickens in their remake of 'Hawmps' slated for a Fall 2009 release, tentatively titled 'Humps'. Disney is enlisting Pixar's aid in designing a fleet of 'fully expressive camels' that will be more capable of interacting with their human counterparts in the ways the original filmmakers intended. "It's great to see Dad's vision being realized to its fullest potential," said Brandon Camp, son of the legendary Joe Camp, director of the original classic. "The camels were always meant to talk." No word on if Benji will make an appearance.
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Yes, I realize that. I should have been more clear. What I meant was that pt 2 is the first Friday movie that even involved Jason as the killer. You could theoretically remake that movie and just throw in the hockey mask somehow. But you can't conceive of a remake of pt 1 that involves Jason and the mask in any way - unless it's a redo of the end sequence or something.
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Jason is shot in “docu-drama” style as a 10 foot hulking monster, with flames on his hockey mask, as he walk towards the first bunk house full of victims. Inside it’s full of boys and girls playing truth or dare. Just as the popular girl is about to kiss the nerdy dork because of her “dare” Jason kicks down the door. Cue Disturbed “Down with the Sickness” and quick cuts, as Jason uses his new Tai Chi movies while doing barrel rolls through the air. As the music stops, Jason stands solid with an American flag waving behind him. All the campers are in the same spot they were when he came in. Then a second later their bodies fall apart because of the machete attack.
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Most of the sequels just ignore how he died in the previous film and they're practically reboots themselves so how is this going to be different than a regular sequel?
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Rather have a sequel! BUT FUCK IT! I'M SO THERE!
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Just because their names have similar letters, I guess.
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It shouldn't take much for this to be an improvement.
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When the dude was walking on his hands on the porch and Jason cuts him in half
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Why remake a movie that's been remade upwards of 9 times already? (...waits for TB'er to chime in with precise number of F13 films....) And this is not counting the F13 knockoffs.
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Dude, it was such a travesty. What a piece of shit. Nothing can top the 1st or the 2nd, and that was such a "we don't understand this franchise so we will just try to do what we think horror is"
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...has to be the 3d eye popping out directly at the camera when Jason squeezes that old dude's head in part 3. Either that or the machete chop to the face for the dude in the wheelchair in part...err..2..3? Or was it four?......five maybe?
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That will be revolutionary. Don't forget to explore his troubled childhood! And there MUST be a scene showing how little Jason performs forbidden voodoo rituals (or gets infected by an alien parasite, whatever) that explain his later immortality. Otherwise the teendiot slime "target audience" will keep asking: "So, he, like, can't be killed or something? Like, how come? Is he, like, you know, like, a zombie or something? I don't get it! Duh! Stoopid mooviee! Like, let's go watch that totally hot new Tom Welling show like now!"
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Jason was only in like the last minute of Friday the 13th. does he keep the hockey mask in the lake with him??
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But it is totally out of place in the film. It's the one after the girl shoots herself and the camera is on the horrified reactions of everybody in the van. The camera pulls back, through the hole in her head and way out of the van. It's a cool shot that totally takes you out of the film.
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Actually, up to and including part 8 they didn't "ignore how he died in previous films" as crazy and ridiculous the situations were, each film did flow into the other with at least some sense of continuity. Jason Goes To Hell, Jason X, and FvJ did, however, all ignore their predecessors.
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and whoever reckons FvJ wasn't bad- PULL YOUR HEAD OUTTA YOUR ASS> It was shit. and committed the mortal sin of not using the chick from Ginger Snaps properly. Although Kelly Rowland did get hit in the head with a machete, so maybe it isn't so bad...
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Written all over it. Jason in the first, what are these writers thing about, or in actuality not thinking about?!?!
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Chainsaw remake was pretty damn good. Freddy vs Jason was fun as hell. I was hesitant but now im looking forward to it. Hey Kujofbrooklyn the fat kid with a banana was a chick not a dude.
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...audiences today equate the Friday the 13th movies with Jason. If you make a remake of the first film, where the mother is actually the antagonist, you won't have an audience. So sorry!
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last time you ran a F13 headline, it was Ki-ki-ki, Ma-ma-ma.
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Who are you kidding?! Friday the 13th has no redeeming value beyond Jason playing human baseball with a machette, and it never has! All the movies have been utterly terrible and that is what makes them fun. And anyone who claims otherwise is a moron! If anything, I think Marcus Nispel is the perfect director for this flick. Anyone who wants Tarrantino to direct a 13th is dreaming. What we are going to get is a brutal killer in a hockey mask. The movie is going to be well shot and be 100 times better than Jason X. If Nispel can make Leatherface Jason, and Zombie can make Myers Jason, then let Nispel make Jason Jason. He will no doubt master the technique by now.
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Okay, so does this mean that Jason's hockey mask will have flames on it?
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Okay, the rule of horror movies is that if you take a shower, skinny dip, or have sex you die. Only the ugliest, and by that I mean average looking, girl survives, and maybe a friend or two. But man, here's some guy that's paralyzed, about to score with a hot chick (and she initiated it). She goes back to her cabin, puts on special panties, give a squirt of perfume down there (it's amazing how many details I remember), and while he's waitng for her, bam, machete to the face. I mean if he's gotta die that's fine, but he just got robbed. Let the guy have a little happiness first. Same movie and one couple got speared together while they were doing it. At least they died happy. Oh, and Part 2 was filmed ten minutes from my house. It's nice to watch it on occasion, and see what scenery is fake, and what isn't.
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and the only good part was when Jason punched that dudes head off
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The mom is still the killer right?
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only in the first one
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The dude punches Jason how many times, Jason falls back, dude is too tired, and then Rope a Dope, he's gone. Hysterical. Also, no one ever explained how Crystal Lake opens up into Long Island Sound. Okay, before anyone says it yes we suspend disbelief that Jason can be folded, spinned, mutilated, and come back yet we care about the direction of water. Well I care anyway.
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Was definitely taking the girl in the sleeping bag, and swinging it against the tree. Sure, no blood or nudity, but man talk about originality. I could be wrong, but I believe the story is that Kane Hodder ad-libbed that after getting frustrated with how long the scene was taking, and the rest is history.
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He just sticks around.
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and call the movie 'veterens day' or something. i'd rather have a rip-off than a remake. make up your own shit. same goes with poltergeist, there's a million ghost stories out there, there's a few thousand serial killer stories out there. how about a h.h.holmes movie? i guess it all has to do with the franchise. michael bay is a fag.
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Ghost Story was great. John Houseman, Fred Astaire, the Borg Queen showing some skin; it had it all. Oh crap, I just have Hollywood another idea.
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I forgot about that! That was genius. What pisses me off is you know this remake is going to try to make it totally serious with none of the camp that made those movies great. It'll be Jason staring at his mask while "More Than Words" blares over the soundtrack
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friday the 13th part one is very well written and clever, i think youre the moron.
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This Veterans day, the murder is free, the membership isn't
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Just like Nispel?
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For best kill If your recall in Jason X, I think they tried to re-do the sleeping bag kill when he was on the holodeck or whatever it was. I forgot if he swung it on the tree or ground, etc., but it just did not have the impact of the original.
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I love Jason as a movie monster and all, but his movies are terrible. At least Jason X had some solid laughs in the Bride of Chucky type way, but the real Jason movies were all boring. It's not just because they're dated. Compared to Halloween or Alien or Jaws or any other suspense feature of their time the Jason movies are still terrible.Oh well, I guess Harry's severed head will get another cameo and you guys will get something to rant about in between Rob Zombie features.
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You know what else is well written? The back of my cereal box. And the part on the bottom of my shoes will all the writing. Oh! And the way they fit all the letters onto each button of the phone. Friday the 13th part 1 is a bad movie. People like it because it pushed the envelope and people like big knives. I've never heard the words "well written" used to describe Friday the 13th before.
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I love them. I don't take anything in them seriously. I love real horror, but Jason has always been a guilty pleasure for me. It's just fun to sit back with your friends and laugh, it's not scary or anything but just a good time
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Urban.
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Nov 14, 2007 12:19:26 PM CST
Why is it that we're complaining when they're remaking a bad mov
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I don't get it, Jason is an iconic horror character, but the movies are by no means perfect, let's leave them untouched as timeless classics. The movies are utter trash, entertaining trash, but trash nonetheless.
A few Octobers back a local theater was showing the first three movies, and most of the enjoyment I got out of them was cracking jokes at the screen. This can only be improved on. Stop complaining.
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I actually re-watched all of them last month, and I've been reading that awesome "Crystal Lake Memories" book, and I was beginning to feel safe, like this thing wasn't gonna happen. I don't mind the FREDDY VS. JASON guys writing it, and the guy who they used to have as a director at least seemed like a nice guy even if I hated his CHAIN SAW remaquel.
But there are a few people who could suck all the potential fun and thrills out of a goofy FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 2 BUT IT'S CALLED PART 1 remake and one of those people is the fuckin guy who got fired from END OF DAYS. Come on man. It's like Michael Bay does this shit on purpose just to bum everybody out. What the fuck is wrong with that dude?
To recap: no these movies aren't gospel, yes many of the sequels suck, no none of them are masterpieces like CHAIN SAW. But at least parts 1-4 and JASON X are fun and have their own unique tone and it's a shame that if someone has to restart or continue the series that it has to be people with a track record of making gloomy, joyless, inept, moronic remakes of other people's movies. Okay, the moronic part is acceptable for this series but they at least gotta be enjoyable to watch and there's no fuckin way that's gonna happen with this combination of director and producer. I think you could teach a bird to type before you could teach these two to make a good horror movie.
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and I would love to be wrong about this. I'll see it and hope that I'm wrong. If the movie defies the laws of physics and does not suck then I will be very happy, and then I will open up a typing school for birds.
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...is actually a girl, not a dude. Yep.
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A few remakes every year is to be expected, but now the ONLY thing that is getting made are an endless stream of remakes. This is insane.
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Vern, I was waiting for you to chime in on this piece of shit news. I think Bay seriously does love to make us bummed out. TCM remake was such a piece of shit. And they will try to make this ultra-real and take all the fun out of the series.
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Get your minds out of the gutters people
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Regan is in a car chase and she drives with her head backwards.
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It sucked in the worst possible way a movie could suck, and it started this whole horror remake fad. I'll curse it to the day I die.
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when people jingle their keys in front of their eyes
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'nuff said.
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dude, I can't wait to buy one of those "Don't be an Ellis" shirts! Awesome stuff man
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If anything, people beat Bay down to a dead thing twitching on the side of the road everytime he tried to inject fun elements into his flicks (Pearl Harbor excluded). Armageddon is a space slasher flick where the asteroid is one machette away from slashing up the world. Bay knows fun, but when he uses it people bash him for shoddy story telling and every other Bay complaint you can find on wikipedia. Bad Boys? Bad Boys 2? The Rock? Armageddon? These are the Friday the 13th of action movies, but people won't shut the hell up about them!
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... or update to the new style in use since at least back in the 90s, if not earlier. And what about Mrs. Voorhees, who was the actual killer from the first movie?
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And the car's head is, naturally, spinning and vomiting oil, which will generate many laughs like a robot peeing on somebody, R Kelly style
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jingle jingle jingle
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shoots sparks which explode overtop of the new military helicopter, the annihaltor
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the machete to the face of the guy in the wheel chair (part 2) or the impaling of the junky rapist by his own heroine needle (part 8)
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...bad concept to begin with.... Freddy Krueger's really just a lethal bad dream, Jason is a mutant retard whatsis, but real... how can anything fight a friggin' dream. Now Jason Vs. Michael Myers... THAT would have been some matchup! It would've been interesting to see them go at each other with their different killing styles... Jason's just-crash-through-the-door-and-start-hacking versus Myers' fade-in-from-shadow-behind-victim-and-slash.
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Jason on a jet ski pursuing his victims who are fleeing in a speed boat while his mother closes in from above in a chopper. Then they all collide in one big explosion.
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Jason punching off the head of the boxing jock from the roof of a building (part 8)
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... now THAT is a million dollar idea. I'd love to see him sit down to a plate of waffles at a retro diner after a long night of murdering. You know, just shootin' the shit about old TV shows, kung fu movies, and bad 1970's music with his best buddy and partner in crime, The Gimp.
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...I still think the most necessary remake ever is Prophecy. Hard-R w/ tons of gore.
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*blech*
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His Gold, Our Clover
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News of its writers penning a remake of FRIDAY THE 13TH kills any anticipation I could have of this movie being exciting. This is already sounding like a cookie-cutter horror remake. Why not hire someone more interesting to write this remake, maybe even someone with no horror background? Heck, get one of those writers of LOST to do it. That show is scary as hell sometimes.
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...somebody up above said bring back Kevin Bacon... ...also bring back Christian Glover, and make sure he uses the word "dead-fuck"... ... and most importantly have Jason kill Cory Feldman! Jason must be played by someone over 7' tall so he can be taller than Michael Myers again.
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Burn Hollywood BURN!
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...Nispel should recreate this scene intact so we finally get to see it...
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Didn't like the TCM remake. But I kinda liked their Leatherface, I thought he was pretty scary. Hope their Jason is scary and they BETTER not try to make this film funny.
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I don't really think that it matters who is directing this movie or who is producing it. If anything, Michael Bay might be the best dude to do this flaming piece of shit movie. I really don't understand why people are all up in arms about this. The Friday the 13th movies have never been good. sure, they were mindlessly entertaining, but worthy of this outrage? I think not. People need to save their anger for shit that matters, like Brandon Routh's hair and Optimus Prime having lips and flames. Sometimes I think people who post in these talkbacks are just looking for something to bitch about. Oh wait, I know thats the case.
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He wanted to send Michael Myers into space. True Story. I guess Jason X beat them to it. Vern JASON X WAS TERRIBLE!
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... er, nipples ...
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who hasn't been to space! They should make like a godzilla "destroy all monsters" movie with all these horror characters in space staring Leonardo DiCaprio from Critters 3
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I can't wait to see Jason emerge from the lake at sunset, and we get the Bay-shot swirling camera as he walks up out of the water in slow motion, with awesome bay-i-fied music playing in the background. The chase scenes will be unbelievable... people do all kinds of ridiculous running throught he streets, getting in a car, driving for miles across stretches of highway while ramping off shit and causing immense amounts of property damage. Meanwhile, we cut to Jason doing his slow ass walk. Finally, after miles of driving at breakneck speeds, the person will inevitably crash, get out of their wrecked car, and walk right into Jason's machete.
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We don't need a goddamn remake when the sequels are still successful. Jason X may have bombed, but Freddy Vs. Jason, which is a superior film, is the highest grossing entry in the series! Jason is still strong, this is fucking pointless. I think Nispel could pull this off if given a decent script. Just fill it to the brim with tits and gore, have a hockey mask on the poster, and you'll make millions. IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY.
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hell fucking YES!
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If Jason chest bumps a fat kid in this movie, I will eat my words and declare it the best film of all time.
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goddamn it, make that instead
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Maybe Jason will piss on his victims' leg before killing them?
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it is a Michael Bay production. Jason could seen be walking after a moving car then moments later appear right behind it. Then he impales the driver.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't the hockey mask introduced in part 3 and wasnt it Jason's mom who did the killing in the first one?...oh wait...haha...silly me...this is a "remimagining". Michael Bay is such a goddamned genius! Hell, while he's on his streak of producing gawdawful bullshit remakes of scary classics like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, my vote for his next project after he botches Friday up, is Gigli!!...that was one seriously fucking TERRIFYING movie *shiver*
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a remake of The Rock and give Michael Bay the what-for.
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makes sense, since it was awful and took itself much too seriously, chiefly because the environmental themes are as relevant as ever, nobody would be able to take the movie seriously because of the resemblance to ManBearPig. Run on sentences are my specialty..!
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Can I correct you if 100 other people have already mentioned this? At least you aren't wrong, though.
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But there is a way to make a Jason flick and a way to not do it.
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1. Don't INTENTIONALLY make it campy / silly. This is why Snakes on a Plane didn't work. We wanted to laugh AT the movie, not WITH it. Try your hardest, give us your best shot. But we'll still probably laugh.
2. Fill it to the brim with tits and gore. Insanely beautiful women. No pretty boys. Let them fuck regular looking guys, like they did in the original movies. Seeing a girl bone Kevin Bacon makes me feel better about myself.
3. NO FUCKING PUSSY ASS BACK STORY. Gimme a movie about kids at a camp fucking each other, then dying. Adam Marcus said when making Jason Goes to Hell that the reason he ditched the 'kids in the woods' storyline was to be fresh, so that by the end of the movie, the audience would be ready to go back to the lake. Well, since then, we've been to space and Elm street. We're ready to go back to the lake, like back in the day.
4. False scares / jump scares are not necessary. They are annoying, and soften the horror when it comes, because we're numb to the scares by then.
5. Enough fucking shaky cam. I want to see the tits. I want to see the gore. Take your shaky cam and shove it up your ass.
6. Don't call it Friday the 13th. Just put Jason's name in the title and you'll get the same amount of people, and without pissing off half your audience.
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Did I mention I'm sick of every horror remake indulging in large amounts of back story? Please don't try to show us the reasons behind Jason's madness. I can't stress this enough. Boobs and gore. That's all you need in these movies. Boobs and gore.
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Yeah I know, just thought I'd be number 101 on the bitchfest list. Maybe these assholes will get the picture after reading the talkbacks?....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA...wishful thinking
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Maybe some drugs and alcohol, too. I would say throw a great soundtrack in there, but I won't because to Platinum Dunes, soundtrack to horror movie means more Mushroomhead music videos. And that is fucking dumb. I love how the music on the TCM remake's soundtrack is all shitty goth "metal", even though the fucking movie is set in the 70's! And the only genuine 70's song we got in the whole movie? Fucking Sweet Home Alabama, the shittiest, most overplayed pile of cunt snot to come out of the entire decade. I don't know if you guys can tell, but I'm a little pissed off about this remake.
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and gore. Come on, Bay. You know you like them too.
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... Just make a ManBearPig movie. You all know I'm right!
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they got one of those huge inflatable things that you put in the lake, have one kid jump on it to bounce another off and have Jason pop out of the water and machete that bitch in half
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That's one way to get me into the theater
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You want tits and gore and Jason and nothing more? How about "Jason Does Debbie In Dallas"? A career booster for Bay, huh? And to add to this masterpiece, they'll hire the original Debbie from the first movie. Hell, she's old enough to be the Crypt Keeper anyways, haha
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this couldnt be worse than ghost rider, could it? i mean, come on!
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the ones directing and producing it
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1. Make it scary! Scary is all about creating a scary atmosphere. It's dark and in the middle of the woods, how hard could it be? Do not throw a filter on the camera or shoot at day. That's not scary. I would also like to see some killer P.O.V. shots like in the first two or three films, those were scary.
2. Take time with the kills. More body count does not = better, give appropriate set up and pay off for the kills.
3. Like Sebastian said, Don't INTENTIONALLY make it campy / silly. This does not mean it can't be fun or have a dark sense of humor to it.
4. Jason is not superhuman. He's just a guy out in woods who kills people.
5. Go old school. No use having a complicated plot. A quick flashback to Jason getting picked on or drowning would do. But mostly stay in present day crystal lake with teenagers in a log cabin getting knocked off one at a time.
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1. Make it scary! Scary is all about creating a scary atmosphere. It's dark and in the middle of the woods, how hard could it be? Do not throw a filter on the camera or shoot at day. That's not scary. I would also like to see some killer P.O.V. shots like in the first two or three films, those were scary. 2. Take time with the kills. More body count does not = better, give appropriate set up and pay off for the kills. 3. Like Sebastian said, Don't INTENTIONALLY make it campy / silly. This does not mean it can't be fun or have a dark sense of humor to it. 4. Jason is not superhuman. He's just a guy out in woods who kills people. 5. Go old school. No use having a complicated plot. A quick flashback to Jason getting picked on or drowning would do. But mostly stay in present day crystal lake with teenagers in a log cabin getting knocked off one at a time. 6. NO TORTURE!!!
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actually it would be kind of great to see someone dancing like in those idiotic IPOD commercial and Jason just stands behind them until they realize and BAM machete to the face or he rips their ears off
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Wake me up before you go or I'm walking on sunshine
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You missed my point entirley. If you're familiar with the classic 80's slasher flicks, and I'm sure you are, they consist only of what I'm asking for. For example, Halloween is a classy, well made picture. Meanwhile, Friday the 13th is about.... you guessed it: boobs and gore. It was meant to be exploitive from the beginning, I only request that Bay stay true to this. Zooch posted a list of requests I wholeheartedly agree with, and his is less crude, so check that one out. I'm down with intelligent horror any day, but when watching a Jason flick there are only two things required. At this point, I doubt I need to tell you what they are.
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These studio execs were running on brains functioning at full capacity. Unfortunately for your great ideas and the poor fucked in the ass fanbase all around the world, this is not likely on all counts.
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anyone who doesn't realize that FREDDY VS. JASON could have been 1,000 times worse is an asshole
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that we will get to see Jason having dinner with his parents, his dad gets called off to war and mom starts drinking and forgets to bring his floaties to camp the next day
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I liked it a lot except for the STUPID Jay and Silent Bob ripoff character
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The originals weren't any good anyways. They really can only get better.
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No I got ya dead on actually. I agree 100%, but following the trend of bullshit remake-reimaginings like Halloween & TCM, what makes you think this will be any different? What was the point of showing Michael Myers' childhoood? The guy is fucking psychopath, I don't need to know how he got there. I would have thought Zombie wouldn't have got this. Letdown. What was the point of placing Leatherface with a new fucking family that I could give a shit about? The original built up such strong characters besides Leatherface, like the Cook, The Hitchhiker, and Grandpa. But no fuckall that, let's focus on Leatherface alone. Then just call the damn movie Leatherface. Don't deface 30 years of iconic horror because you have loads of money and can. You're right, that's exactly what Friday was about essentially. Gore, sex, and and a psycho killer. But knowing Bay, this is exactly what we wont get. Get ready for Friday the 13th: The Wonder Years.
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Nov 14, 2007 4:18:22 PM CST
IT'S NOT A REMAKE OF #1 / FVSJ WAS AWESOME, FUCK THE CRITICS
by thedohdoh
first off, this is a "remake" of part 2, but better yet, it's just a reboot. Jason's mom will not be the main character/villain, it will be Jason. C'mon, Bay knows what's signature to F13. Also, WHAT THE FUCK. STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT FREDDY VERSUS JASON. I'D LOVE TO SEE A BETTER SCRIPT/FILM COME OUT OF THAT RIDICULOUSLY CHEESY PREMISE. THAT FILM WAS GODDAMN AWESOME FOR WHAT IT WAS. SHUT UP. AND IT MADE $80 MILLION, WHERE'S THE SEQUEL WITH ASH OR MYERS ALREADY????
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F vs J sucked. It wasn't funny enough to be a comedy and it certainly wasn't scary enough to be a horror movie. There were no thrills or laughs anywhere.
That, is a weak film.
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Well said. I guess we're on the same page after all. Sorry for gettin' defensive. Cheers!
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Anybody who thought FvJ "kicked ass" will no doubt be anxiously awaiting this new Jason film. These are exactly the horror fans Mr. Bay knows will run to the cinema for his new remake. I love many horror films, but if you think FvJ is a masterpiece, you're opinion on Horrorfilms will fall on deaf ears with moviefans that happen to have just a little bit of taste. And that's a fact.
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You got that confused. The "Halloween in space" idea was something John Carpenter said he wanted to do for a sequel many years ago. I've never been clear if he was serious or just making fun of sequels (I'm guessing the second one). Tarantino's connection to HALLOWEEN was that he was one of the people trying to come up with a script for part 6 at one point, before he was established. Much like a young BAD TASTE era Peter Jackson pitched an ELM STREET sequel (part 5 I think? maybe earlier).
As for JASON X, well I must admit that when I rewatched it recently it was not as fun as when I saw it with an audience on a big screen. But it's still a funny movie with lots of good laughs and violence. I definitely like it more than anything else after part 4 (although they all have their moments). -
I hope they realize that if it's gonna be FRIDAY THE 13TH they gotta get Harry Manfredini doing the score, or somebody that can class it up like he did. On the early ones though, not the later ones with the god damn keyboards.
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I was getting pushed out the door and had to get my previous post off in a hurry. As flawed as it might be, conceptually, F v J worked. The plot and direction were satisfying. I'm not saying the characters weren't cheap and they they didn't modernize the hell out of it and that I wasn't bored to tears during every second that Freddy and/or Jason weren't on screen. But I'm saying that I wasn't that dissappointed, which I easily could have been. It wasn't everything I could have hoped for, but when I compare it to the other shitty franchise movies that have been released in the past few years I know we caught somewhat of a break with F v J. And JimCurry you have clearly proved yourself to be a belligerent fool. "Shitty movies make lots of money all the time" That is not a valid arguement my friend.
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You heard me. I think Friday the 13th sucks for the most part. They're stupid, schlocky fun, yeah. Now you've hired Marcus Dumbbell to dumb it down and make it mean and LOUD...awesome! Wouldn't it be just as easy to just, you know, create a new loud, ugly, mean horror property than take the fun out of a ridiculous, shitty, albeit fun one?
Vern is a man of wisdom and already articulated much of this better than I have, but you deserve all the shaming you get in this talkback.
You're going to do it to The Birds too, eh? Mark it mean, ugly and LOUD! You guys are great at making aesthetically wretched piles of dreck, if that's the aim, ignore me and keep it up. Otherwise, get your head out of your dirty assholes. -
I just want to clarify that by no means do I consider F v J to be a masterpiece. And "kicked ass" is way to brash of a description. I take back that previous post, my enthusiasm for F v J does not even come close to that level.
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Michael Myers eventually killed his Laurie Strode. Freddy eventually killed Nancy. Jason can't ever get the best of his survivor character?
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who's taste in the genre and all genre's for that matter is right on point. I don't even think this remake will ever exist nor do I condone it.
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but if you dont think that F v J could have been worse your not an asshole. Compared to real horror films F v J, well isn't a horror film
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won't it pretty much be on par with all the others? They all were pretty much just random kills strung together with no sense of atmosphere or suspense whatever.
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Nov 14, 2007 6:22:17 PM CST
have to do it.... I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH MRS. VORHEES
by turd furgeson
And she said "What the fuck?" I wouldn't piss that sweet old lady off if I were you Mikey Bay..... This is such an amazingly bad idea I am almost speachless....
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Nov 14, 2007 6:29:45 PM CST
Again, wasn't Them (aka Ils) sort of a remake of Friday 1?
by thenorthlander
I can't be the only one who felt a connection.
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they know exactly what's gonna sell movie tickets and this new Friday the 13th film will do just that. With this remake, there won't be a lot of suprises at all. It will be another loud, violent and ultra hollow affair. It's also gonna have sequels. Plenty of horror fans are easy to please, and so are plenty of teenagers, that's just the way it is. So when can we see Alexandre Aja's MIRRORS ?
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Nov 14, 2007 6:35:51 PM CST
All FRIDAY sequels are remakes of Part I. Thank God for the babe
by thegreatwhatzit
I only enjoyed FRIDAY Part 6 (some funny stuff, e.g. the pre-credit 007 homage). Favorite hotty is Kirsten Baker (remember her skinny-dipping scene in FRIDAY, Part 2?). Baker made a few other movies (GAS PUMP GIRLS, TEEN LUST, etc.) and then did a vanishing act,
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I've never seen a whole F13 film. Over the years I've probably seen about half to three-quarters of all of them, but never all the way through. I mainly watched them when I was younger for the boobs.
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As all real Friday fans know, Jason's Mom was the killer in Part 1 - so all sequels were remakes of Part 2! Bay's got himself another sequel on his hands - but trying to sell it as a reimagining... sad.
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Michael Bay
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I'm tempted to make fan film sequel, with $10, out of work actors, rotten contents of a butcher's garbage bin, and of course stealing Manfredini's score. Put it up as a torrent and pull the fuckin rug from under Bay's feet.
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... have a red flame design on his machete this time kinda like Optimus Prime's armor? DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!
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It's not like this series was a crowning achievement of modern cinema. I enjoy the series as much as the next guy, but there's a huge difference in quality between the original TCM and the original F13.
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Nov 14, 2007 7:14:46 PM CST
Hey jaws wayne, I hope your not including me in your little grou
by clockworker
of horror fans that are easy to please. Don't question my fanhood.
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my fault I thought you were trying to tell me that it made money because it was shitty. But yeah I mean it wasn't as bad as AVP or anything. I never said it was a "good" movie, but at least it didn't piss me off at how bad it was. Plus I retracted my statement saying fuck the haters of this movie, hate on it all you want I'm not disagreeing with you
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No matter what, they have to have the Manfredini tunage to make this movie kick a bit of ass. His score on Friday the 13th III 3-D was fucking awesome and underrated. That theme gets me so pumped up. Not that the new music should go disco or electro, stick to the original. As for FVSJ, I don't understand what people who disliked it actually wanted from the flick. It was smart while not too ironic, and it delivered plenty of knowledgable homage to Freddy's evolution of a killer - going to the boiler room, to homage to Dream Warriors, to imagery from the original. Same with Jason. It was fun as hell, and c'mon, you really can't berate it for not being a film filled with dread and terror - it's a Royal Rumble for chrissakes. They could have gone about having the film filled with a plot that was Freddy-less and Jason-less for 2/3rds of the running time, a la Jason Goes to Hell. Instead, the kills were great, the characters were appropriately stupid, hot and horny and Freddy and Jason were roided up and had great fight scenes. And the ending was hilarious. I remember the audience going totally apeshit for that. I'm not siked on Bay tinkering with Jason (who would be??), but this hasn't been news for 4 years now. Bay's studio had the rights. As for the director, I think he'll deliver the goods. It will look obnoxiously pretty and metallic, but fuck it. At least Jason's back. The dude doesn't really have standards anyhow. And as long as they don't make him 9 feet tall, they can't fuck it up too much. At least it's not PG13 and will have plenty of tits and blood. Nuff said.
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THEY DON'T MAKE IT!
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Hatchet is the most low budget, overrated piece of shit I have ever seen. The jokes are ridiculously corny and even the tits are the same two pairs of tits over and over. HATCHET SUCKED. How did it even get a theatrical release? That movie is like something made for the Fear.net channel. Truly terrible and wasted cameos all around.
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Was it a masterpiece? No. I'd put Nightmare 1, 3 and 7 ahead of it (I can't compare it to the other Friday movies, because it was a different formula. It's a Freddy movie guest-starring Jason.) But it's fun, and it's better than the script with the Nightmare cult, or the Law and Order script. Speaking of scripts, has anyone ever seen the Peter Jackson Nightmare 6 script?
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ShiftyEyedDog2, you wrote; "last time you ran a F13 headline, it was Ki-ki-ki, Ma-ma-ma."
Well, the correct sounds for the "killer" motif in the "Friday" films ARE "KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA"...not, "CH-CH-CH-HA-HA-HA", as so many people believe them to be. Trust me, I'm a friend of Harry Manfredini and we've discussed the motif and score several times.
Here's a quote from series creator Sean S. Cunningham. The quote appears in the "CRYSTAL LAKE MEMORIES" book, page 39;
"Harry is an equipment junkie. He had something called an 'echo reverb machine'...the two words that he used were 'Kill' and 'mother'. 'Ki-ki-ki-ma-ma-ma.' That is where it started."
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Where did you get that? There's no summer camp in Ils, there's no counselors, no backstory, different characters, less characters, different things happen, different structure, different killers... Only parallels I can think of is that both have a killer who is unseen until the end of the movie.
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that you didn't get? I mean it was no Critters 2 but it was competent. Jason showed up, Freddy showed up, they fought in each others' worlds, had a long battle and still managed to kill some teenagers. If Pinhead would have been in the last scene like the rumor said, it would have been great.
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I watched the Burning a few weeks ago, and man, this is one bloody fucking movie. Definitely entertaining as well. Tom Savini let the gore fly and the Weinsteins let it. The killer is a little too S&M for my tastes, but still a great flick that doesn't cop out.
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But when this is actually released, just as happens with every Bay cinematic bowel movement's release, the fan boy love will come in floods. (sigh) I remember when movie dorks liked good movies, and it was the general-give me entertainment or give me death-public who supported schlockbusters. No longer.
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Anyboby here buying? Maybe we can still get the movie at some point....
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Competent ? Is that a recommendation for any film, let alone a horror film ? Not that I think FvJ was competent by the way, Jesus. But people that grew up as kids when those Freddy films came out and because of that have fond memories of those films, I can see how that works. The thing is, if you were a few years (or a lot) older when those Kruger films started to come out, you were probably raised on films like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Omen, Halloween, The Shining, The Excorcist, The Evil Dead, Dawn of the Dead, An American Werewolf in London, The Thing etc. and chances are you would never mistake any movie featuring Jason Voorhees or Freddy fuckin' Kruger for a good horror film. Some of those Jason films are dumb but enjoyable fun, but oh boy, do I hate that Kruger character, I actually think the horror movie world would have been in a better state had these films not been made, I'm serious about that.
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Really decent as far as slahsers go; particulary for this series. It's got some scares, suspense, Manfredi, Jason runs, Jason looks his best, and the ending is insane. Oh Corey Feldman and dancing Crispin Glover too!
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OK. I can see people disliking the sequels to the original "Nightmare...". But, come on, the original "A Nightmare on Elm Street" is a great horror film. It's not exactly "Citizen Kane"...but, it's got great writing, directing, cinematography, etc. The plot and concept is unique aqnd ingenious, and Freddy was actually scary in the original.
As the sequels went on, the character of Krueger became more and more diluted. By the time "Nightmare 4" rolled around, he was actually considered the "hero" of the series. Director Renny Harlin even says in several interviews that he envisioned Krueger as the "James Bond" of the horror genre. So, I think a lot of the blame falls on his shoulders for the character's demise as an actual iconic and scary horror villain.
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I'v eheard that before, and maybe those ARE the words he sampled and messed with to make the sounds, but the fact is that those slivers of the words and whatever he did to them, ended up making the sounds CH-ch-ch, Ha-ha-ha. Everyone in the world agrees that this is what it SOUNDS like, therefore that is how it should be written, regardless of he ORIGIN of the sounds.
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Right, the gimmick on both is you don't see or know who the killer is until the end (or in the case of Ils, until 20 minutes into the movie when the punk kids are revealed, but it's still the gimmick).
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who changed it to "Ki-Ki-Ki"? I always heard "Ch-Ch-Ch" and I have dog ears.
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Have you seen the movie? It's obvious from the start of act 2 when you see "them" in full view.
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Nov 14, 2007 10:04:53 PM CST
ShiftyEyedDog2, D. Vader, CherryValance; It's "KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA
by drwynninblack
It doesn't matter what you MAY have "heard". Listen carefully and you can clearly hear that the sound is "Ki-ki-ki, Ma-ma-ma". You can CLAIM you heard something different...you can argue until you're blue in the face. "Everyone in the world" may agree with you...but, if you say it's "Ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha", you're wrong, whether you like it or not. It may "SOUND" like "CH-HA" to you, but it's NOT. All Harry did to create and record the sound was to record him saying, "Kill" and "Mama" into an echo-reverb machine. That's it. That's pretty much all he did. Even Harry laughs about the fact that people always think it's "Ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha". Christ...Harry signs posters, books, figures with the words "ki-ki-ki-ma-ma-ma". So, you're arguing not only against the words of the seris' creator, Sean Cunningham...but, also the guy who friggin' recorded the damn infamous sound to begin with. Think what you'd like to...but, you're wrong.
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Also...you say "maybe those are the words". You're saying that "perhaps" I'm mistaken or wrong. If you don't friggin' believe me, go ask Harry for proof;
http://www.harrymanfredini.com/
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Or try this;
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=112112578&MyToken=a2f9d516-cf0d-47eb-b20d-9bbe6f005f4f -
Read what Douglas Adams had to say about you pedants and non-pedants.
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Aren't people always bitching that they should remake LAME old movies instead of classics?
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Saw a YouTube clip of her (she couldn't have been older than 20) getting strangled by Jason in a ballroom, or something.
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I'm fine with being a "pedant" (someone who over-emphasizes small details).
What I'm NOT fine with is when someone argues against "facts". Other talkbackers are saying "it's not THOSE words"...or "it MAY be those words, but...". They're arguing against facts and actual quotes from Cunningham and Manfredini. That sort of irritates me. Sorry if that makes me look pedantic. -
Nov 15, 2007 12:16:54 AM CST
"KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA" PROOF from COMPOSER HARRY MANFREDINI HIMSELF
by drwynninblack
Still think you're right about "Ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha"? Watch this video, which should end this asinine argument once and for all. Watch his lips and you can ACTUALLY SEE him making the sounds "Ki" and "ma";
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUMaanlStO8
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And, just in case you're wondering; Harry himself sent me this link because he wanted to help me put an end to the fallacy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUMaanlStO8
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THANK YOU. This is the dumbest argument of all time. Thanks for ending this shit for good. How do people claim to like/love F13 when they don't know the ki-ma story???
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Don't thank me, thank Harry instead. Like I said, I've been to various events with him and heard him explain this story to dozens of people. The fact that people argue against it to this day is absolutely ridiculous. If they don't take the proof from Harry's mouth (LITERALLY!)...then they're just being stubborn assholes who can't stand to be proven wrong.
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"Glad I could help... that's about as good as the horses mouth
as you can get."
'Nuff said.
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What do you mean it's not obvious?? 20 minutes into the movie you see them full frontal, running around in sneakers, jeans and hoodies! If they're not punk kids then what are they??
You know, I wish someone had told me about that before I saw it, because then it wouldn't have been such a huge disappointment. I really don't get why they would make up a story, claim it was based on true events and then spin it like it was Evil Dead meets Blair Witch Project when it's just a bunch of stupid kids. Fuck, those french people should have been able to take them out any time.
What were we talking about again? Oh yeah, Friday 13th.
Who's gonna play the young Kevin Bacon?
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Nov 15, 2007 12:50:12 AM CST
"KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA" PROOF from HARRY MANFREDINI HIMSELF (Reprise
by drwynninblack
I've been made aware that the link in the other posts wasn't working properly. Here's an updated version;
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The fact that you wrote that, despite the fact that I provided a link to VIDEO PROOF of Harry Manfredini himself proving you wrong means you are one of the following; A) deliberately just trying to "get my goat". B) Illiterate C) Deaf D) A prick. Take your pick.
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In case you somehow missed the link the first time;
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Also; "everyone knows that". Well, it must be "everyone" EXCEPT for the guy who invented the friggin motif and the original film's director, who have both gone on record as saying it's "ki-ki-ki-ma-ma-ma" and proving people like you wrong.
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When Freddy vs. Jason was about to be released I put $20 on Jason to win. But my cousin won't pay up, saying that Freddy winking proves that Jason didn't win. But I argued that even if Jason didnt kill Freddy, he still won the fight. No? (If I can get enough people to agree, I'll try to use this TalkBack to get my money.)
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I didn't like TCM remake but at this point I want Jason back on the big sreen!!!
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In full 70's/80's defense-mode, I just saw the original Friday the 13th again and, er, well, it pretty much sucks, so I take that back.
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God, youd think someone skullfucked your mother or something. Like I said, ok thats the sounds he used, but it doesnt change the fact that youre a douchebag, and Harry Manfredini or whatever the fuck his name is is an even bigger douchebag for signing things with that sound and telling this story over and over like anybody gives a shit what he has to say.
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the atmosphere, a word bay doesnt know the meaning of.
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nope, by that film existing they are both, by definition, losers. I can't believe people think that has any merit whatsoever.
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Was quite impressed by the 2003 TCM remake. Nispel shot the film immaculately and the story had some bite although it's editing wasn't tight enough. Friday the 13th Films are quite repetetive so we can only hope they kickstart the franchise with some intelligent backstory as to what drives Jason, and not simply because he wants to avenge his mother's death. Put your hands up who wants to see Jason square off against Michael Myers in a heavyweight deathmatch?
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congratulations in one post you manage to sum up every single misgiving that is attached to this project. Things we don't want: 1)a repeat of that shitty TCM remake 2)Backstory 3)Jason v Myers.
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As long as they have a black guy say this to Jason, I will be happy.
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I don't care what Harry put into the re-verb. He could have said 'George Bush blew up the levies' into the re-verb what came out was 'Chi Chi Chi Chi Aaa Aaa Aaa Aaa'.
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First off, they generally suck. Most of what gives a movie an endring quality is the original production. That production was set in an era, it had a certain look, the cast had a unique interaction. These things can't be reproduced. Even if they try to make a period piece, it ends up looking like a modern reproduction of a period piece because the film quality is different from the original. Then if they decide to make a modern adaption you alienate the fans of the original. I personally have an idea of what they could do if they want to make another movie based on Friday the 13 would be to base the story on the events of the end of part 2. Jason comes crashing through the glass he grabs the girl and carries her off into the woods. Let's say he forces himself on her before she escapes. Then medical reasons prevents her from having an abortion. She carries the baby to term. Boom, you have Jason's kid. Then you can run wild with story ideas after that. Great B movie material.
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I'm a douchebag and Harry Manfredini is a douchebag for speaking the truth? OK...and you're clearly so much better than we are for insisting you're right despite proof showing otherwise. And, apparently no one cares what the guy who invented the damn sound has to say? Wow. Show some respect and grow a brain.
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Watch the clip...you can say it came out that way...but it didn't. Why do people who are wrong insist otherwise? http://tinyurl.com/2gpj6l
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I'm finished here. People seem to want to cling to false realities for some reason. Believe what you want, keep yourself convinced in your error. That's fine with me. "CH-HA" believers are wrong...and no matter what you say, it doesn't change that fact.
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Wednesday the 11th. Jason goes around to comic book stores slaying geeks that are
a. still suprised Hollywood is willing to remake ANYTHING
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None of the films in the series are better than a score of about 2.5/4 - not one. 2 and 3 and 6 are kinda fun, but the original was pretty bad. 5 is one of the worst films I've ever seen. There's no way to ruin this franchise, not like what Zombie did with Halloween. He actively shit all over a masterpiece. That won't (can't) happen here.
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Sound of a DEAD HORSE
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Damned fat-finger fuck up. And damned bloody boards with no editing features.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhJfH0rpc8E
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and here's why... Couse that's fucking what it sounds like!
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and when they did it again in Jason X. Sorry, re-makes suck. Original was better.
http://www.i-mockery.com/halloween/greatest/friday13th.php
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and here's why... cause that's what was fucking used.
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surrounding Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean". In the song he clearly says "the chid is not my son" but the official lyrics say "the child is not my son" and people argued over many a lunch table whether it was in fact "kid" or "child" or "chid". Obviously no one knew what a "chid" was, but that was beside the point. No wonder we can't bring about world peace.
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For whatever it's worth, the "Ki-Ki-Ki-Ma-Ma-Ma" info was verified by a known & trusted source. This bit of trivia was news to me, and *my* ears certainly never heard it that way, but...apparently...that's the deal.
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Thanks for your input on the "discussion", Merrick. You verified it using your source, and it's been verified by the composer himself and the series creator and original film's director. It seems that certain people just don't like to admit when they're wrong. Thanks again for the verification.
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Nov 15, 2007 10:26:59 AM CST
wow...we need something interesting to be posted...
by just pillow talk
I can't believe there's nothing going on....
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For this remake they can use crap crap crap - fest fest fest
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"chi-chi-chi" instead of "ki-ki-ki", does Manfredini get paid royalties/residuals? does he get paid by the "ki"?
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it's "ki-ki-ki" not "chi-chi-chi" dammit man, there is no room for rational argument here. stay on topic...
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I know that old story too about Manfredini, but it's actually a myth.
I suggest all you Ki-Ki-Ki-ers go check this out to find out the whole truth:
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I is sorry, the childrens have suffering do to mine error.i'm more the type fast, ask questions later....
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So since it's a Micheal Bay movie is there going to be a highway chase scene where the kids try driving out of there, but Jason hijacks a camp vehicle and chases them down, then theres some big explosions and whatnot.
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You know what? I wouldn't mind.
I'd be a nice break from the tediousness of the Friday 13th formula. How many of you have seen more than 15 movies where the chick is chased through the woods by the killer who's really slow, then she falls, gets up and keeps running and suddenly he's in front of her and she just runs into him?
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SUPER SOUL AND NAKED CHICKS ON MOTORBIKES!!!
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Not sure what "proper" good movie means exactly, but if you mean movies that YOU like or if you mean movies that's politically correct to like, then yes there are tons of those as well. Some of them I don't like.
My DVD library contains most things from "Mitt liv som hund" to the 1983 Halloween/slasher spoof "Wacko" starring George Kennedy to "Jaws" to "Akira" to "Independence Day".
There are also movies most people seem to love that I would rather pay money NOT to watch, like Oldboy, PotC, Harry Potter and Titanic.
Why do you ask?
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the new Challenger for next year?
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we have a honda and a nissan... but damn this car looks nice... not sure how i'll get the baby seat in the back though...
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great realistic fight scene- guys actually getting (and looking)tired from throwing punches. Audition was wicked as well
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...and not in a good way. But it had the best line of dialogue in the entire frachise. Two bimbos flash their boobs, taunting Jason with, "Do you want beer?...do you wanna smoke some pot?...do you wanna have premarital sex? We love premarital sex!" Too bad the film was bereft of similar gags (Jason is Jimmy Swaggart's utopian dream--of course, Jimmy digs sleazy hookers). JASON VS. FREDDY sucked, there were so many possibilities in lieu of a climactic pyrotechnical battle a la KING KONG VS. GODZILLA). The dialogue sounded like it was written by Hillary Clnton's speech therapist.
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...I mean has Michael Bay actually raped anyone's childhood for real? ...are those happy childhood memories of whatever gone? Has history been rewritten and did the pleasant events of your past never occur? Has any remake or reimagining or sequel caused the original film to vanish completely like the Navidson Record or the Absolute Fin du Mond? Because the greedy people who run Disney now keep shilling out poor sequels direct to DVD, does that render Uncle Walt's original masterpieces invalid? I think it's utterly pointless to complain about these things, they do NOTHING to take away from the originals, and occaisionally they might even be good. Also Jason Vorhees has NEVER had a stable continuity (although his was never as bad as Leatherface) consider: F13... Jason is dead. period. Like Hamlet's father and Jacob Marley his death is the WHOLE POINT of the plot. If he weren't cold, stiff and pushing up daisies there would BE no F13 whatsoever. F13 2 Jason was never dead. This makes no fucking sense. So Mrs. Vorhees killed all those people why??? Jason grows up on his own in the woods and doesn't tell Mom he's alive? What the fuck? F13 3 Somehow now Jason who had a long shaggy mane in F13 2 is now bald... and always has been. F13 4 Jason is finally killed, this time for real. The kid who kills him goes insane. F13 5 Whoops. No he doesn't. Wait, yes he does, or does he? F13 6 Now Jason is a bona fide Walking Dead... except, it is stated that he DID die in the lake as a little boy. And the jump-scare at the end of the original F13 was NOT a dream but really happened. HOW THE FUCK DOES A DEAD LITTLE BOY GROW UP INTO A LIVING ADULT? F13 7 Jason fights a third rate Carrie F13 8 Zombie Jason is melted by toxic waste in the New York sewr system. F13 9 Somehow Jason recongeals back at Crystal Lake... and we now learn that Mom Vorhees kept a copy of the Necronomicon ex Mortis from the Evil Dead films! If she was such a powerful witch, SHE should have been the immortal one! F13 10 Jason is cryogenically frozen and thawed out after the apocalypse to wreak havoc on a future spaceship... and becomes a cyborg! Freddy vs. Jason: Freddy sends Jason back from Hell... they fight Jason wins (or does he?) After looking over this mess is there anything really coherent or logical about it? And yet each one of these films has its own rabid fans who would defend them... each one can be enjoyed on its own merit (no matter how dubious) ... and since so many of these negate, retcon, twist, or contradict each other... what fucking difference does it make if there is a remake? ...at least we're pretty well assured Jason won't be a transvestite who will be under the secret instruction of the Illuminati...
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just watched 13 tzameti last week... can't wait for the american remake in color with a happy ending...
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to the "chi-chi" v "ki-ki" debate... i'm thinking about changing my vote....if they really want to change it up, they should use Chevy Chases "Na-na-na-na-na" from caddyshack (
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I agree that the friday 13th series needs a good restart, considering the latest efforts.I hope they can do what they did for chainsaw and actually make jason scary again like the new leatherface's and not so cartoony..
Freddy vs jason was worse than jason goes to hell or jason x..ok maybe not worse but equal to definately-make something good for a change. I cant believe they even green light more f13 flicks after so many shitty ones. -
HaHA good point Prof ikamono...I remember that texas chainsaw..One of worst ripoffs and letdowns i ve had going to the movies. That evil lady had a good pair of tits though and didnt mind showing them.
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You guys are so fuckin lame.
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And you like cock.
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for the caddyshack "na-na-na" vs "nu-nu-nu" debate to begin...
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"teenage frankenstein" was a cool alice cooper song for F13 6-the song still kind of holds up, but "man behind the mask" was made of some smelly ass cheese curd!
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Nov 15, 2007 7:11:42 PM CST
Maybe they should call it Ultimate Jason and Ultimate Halloween?
by thenorthlander
btw what's happened to this TB? all I get is a blank screen.
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It's Jason's only line in the series- It's his mind echoing his whole goal: To kill for his mother. This is established. Any real horror fan should know this one: "KILL HER MOMMY" or, as it sounds in the "music": Ki Ki Ki Ma Ma Ma.
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That's what daddy likes.
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That out of all the people involved in making this, only Bay has been successful at making an entertaining movie. Meh, I wasn't interested in the original Friday's so I'm even less interested in these.
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What are you in third grade or something? I buy the movies I enjoy watching regardless of their popularity and especially regardless of whether you like them or not.
There's no such thing as a "proper" list of movies to own in order to make you cool. So no need to brag. You asked, I gave you a description. -
that someone would invoke Part V's Debi Sue Voohees. They should have tossed the script and aked her to bounce on a trampoline for 90 minutes,
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This is one remake that doesn't bother me at all.
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I haven't seen you around for a while and i always love reading your posts.I'm in the minority I know but that's the way I am.I'm a maverick! I live by my own rules!
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One is the obvious Vorhees connection. Guess what the other two are? Heh.
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and as silly as that one was, it was still enjoyable. So it's not the silliness factor, imo after part 7 they just didn't have any personality.
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The korean thriller Salinui chueok.
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Maybe one of these days they'll make a good one.
Oh and special thanks to "Larry the cable guy" for this post:
"agent blue
by LarryTheCableGuy Nov 14th, 2007
11:52:27 AM
friday the 13th part one is very well written and clever, i think youre the moron. " that right there, even moreso since it's that retard Larry The Cable guy saying it, is the funniest shit I've read all day. -
Nov 15, 2007 9:42:42 PM CST
I wish they'd do something new with the franchise though
by thenorthlander
Like make a trilogy that starts up with Jason killing a bunch of teens at the lake and then moving on to killing everyone on the face of the earth. By the end of the last movie, it'd be total armageddon. Nothing can stop Jason so why is he only fighting teenage girls? He should get some resistance from the military.
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I agree with you there on the series being better up to part 7. They just strayed too much from what has always the made the fridays creepy..and that is camp crystal lake and a bunch of sexy bitches and camp counselers in the mix..I mean jason in manhattan made no sense,the body hopping jason was worse,jason in space (enough said), jason meets party of five -vs- freddy...cmon bring him back to the lake to fuck shit up again and throw in an 80s soundtrack..fuck all the nu-metal shit.
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I think the idea of doing a re-imagining of parts 1 through 4 and possibly a grown up tommy jarvis as he was in part 6.. was the best friday the 13 story idea theyve offered up so far..Parts 1-4 and 6 have the strongest ideas but each have flaws..it makes sense as you could sum up all of that into 1 or 2 films
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At the end of the remake, our hero pulls off Jason's mask to reveal... Michael Myers' mask! Snapping the hero's neck, 'Michael' then moves to some bushes and picks up a chainsaw. He then removes his mask to reveal... it's really Leatherface! That's right! All three horror are icons ARE THE SAME PERSON.His cell phone then rings and Leatherface lifts it up to his face and says (in a really feminine voice) "Okay grandpa, I'm coming home now. Yeah camp was great thanks!"I think this is a great idea.
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Mrs. Voorhees is a dirty slut whore bag stripper who takes Jason with her to work every night at 'The Crazy Whorehouse Saloon' in Redneck, Alabama. Jason 'dies' in the jacuzzi as the owner and some skank do the deed. Wacky fun gore ensues.
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Oh, so all I have to do to be a faggot is make a movie you don't like? Here I was sucking cock when I could've just made a movie you don't like. Jeez, I was doing it the hard way all this time. Do me a favor, pal. Leave your halfwit homophobia at home with your framed posters of Brad Pitt, you closet case. Let us know when you're done thumping your bible or reading the biological imperative from your idiot manifesto or wherever it is you get your backwards ideas...
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The originals live on at kindertrauma.com
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I've just seen that prize dickhead M-O-M correct someone else's grammar. That is funny beyond belief. So dickhead, tell me why this remake is less acceptable than AvP2? I need to hear this and it wants to be better than "Michael Bay".
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not only correcting other people's taste but also their grammar. Riddle me this, fuckspoon, is Alien V Predator 2 a "proper" movie by your ludicrous criteria?
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You are a cunt.
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I've done it twice now- fucking ace....what you do: post, then return to the story and then click on one of the first posts in the TB- it should let you back in with no WSOD. It's a bit annoying.
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Sorry about that. It's so maddeningly inconsistent- sometimes some things work, sometimes others. Infuriating.
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Red Blood on White Snow!!! (No Underworldy blue filters though...)
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Amen to your analysis of the corridor fight scene in Oldboy, but how could you forget to mention the outstanding music that accompanies that sequence? It's the music that elevates it to beyond-greatness for me.
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You horrible little fucktard. Do not ever attempt to patronise me again. I have attempted, with great patience, to explain to you why you are such a little shit, but have lost all tolerance. You are nothing more than a dirty, nasty little hypocrite. You pick up on perceived flaws in other people, and then without a moment's consideration display exactly the same flaw. Firstly, being a grammar nazi. I'm not one, as I type fast and make mistakes. I have never once picked someone up for misusing an apostrophe. I especially wouldn't dream of doing it in a language that is not my first. You on the other hand: "Your's is to be an irritating illiterate dumb idiot,"That is actually every bit as bad as the one you picked up on, if not worse. Secondly, Literacy. I know full well that English is not your first language. However, you seem to believe that you have a grasp of the language as good as mine, the Doc's or any native speaker. You don't. You bandy around colloquilisms to attempt to sound fluent, but you lack the vocabulary to use the words properly. In this instance: "turn that anthill into a mountain". That is gibberish. The reason I pick up on this is that it relates directly to your over-inflated opinion of yourself. I am going to say this slowly, just so there are no mistakes: YOU ARE NOT AS SMART AS YOU THINK YOU ARE. Your slipshod attempts to demonstrate your cosmopolitan intelligence result in either comical malapropisms or utter confusion. If you keep it simple it will have 2 benefits- You will sound less pretentious, and we might actually be able to understand you without bursting a vein. Thirdly, you are brutally intolerant of other people's film tastes, and yet you lack the sophistication to understand that people can enjoy things without pretending that they are high-brow or quality. You, on the other hand, constantly harangue others (The Northlander was recently on the receiving end) for failing to meet your utterly arbitrary standards, and then drop so far below your own level that you would need a team of fucking sherpas to climb back up there. In short- You are nothing more than a shit-stain on a baby's diaper. Now Fuck Off once and for all.
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were they as big as Tony Ferrigno in Portugal?
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"Who doesn't love Vaginas"Clearly you, and peeking at one from behind laced fingers whilst being traumatised by pornonography doesn't make you an authority in the subject.
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I've never tried to spell that before. Never mind. The point remains the same.
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i can't stand the sound of people eating... really... those fucking carls jr commercials where the only sound is the person eating- i want to go 'elvis' on the tv with a large calliber gun... also, people on speakerphone, bunch of retarded fuckwad-cuntwats... oh yean, it's 'ki-ki-ki-'
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What do you mean ? You mean the "Jason" sound ?
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...is the sound of Debisue Voorhees running in bead-tassled pasties.
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It's not "ch-ch-ch". This has been the ongoing debate. Harry Manfredini and Sean Cunningham themselves have verified that it's "ki-ki-ki". Watch this clip for proof;
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Also, this is what Merrick had to say after checking his sources; "For whatever it's worth, the "Ki-Ki-Ki-Ma-Ma-Ma" info was verified by a known & trusted source. This bit of trivia was news to me, and *my* ears certainly never heard it that way, but...apparently...that's the deal. "
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i hate to post links to other news sites here but over at CHUD there is a confirmed description of the opening sequence of the new friday the 13th. SPOILER ALERT! http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12575
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film will be released on Friday the 13th of February 2009! Kick ass!
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I was just kiddin', I read the previous posts in this thread. It's not strange plenty of folks hear Chi-Chi-Chi because most of the times it sounds EXACTLY like that, whatever words Manfredini whispered or shouted in that recording device. I think he said he nicked the idea of the sound-effect from Bernard Herrmann by the way. So, is he asked to score the Nispel version ?
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That was another good one from Jason X. Jason X had all the best kill scenes in my opinion, I also thought it was by far the most entertaining chapter of the series. Don't know about "best"(none of those Friday films are amazing), but definitely the most entertaining, the whole virtual Crystal Lake part surely is one of the finest gags in the history of horror cinema.
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Sorry I didn't get the joke. Harry has actually said before that for the "ki-ki-ki", he was influenced by the works of avant-garde composer Krzysztof Penderecki. Penerecki was famous for his "Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima"...and his music was a bit "out there". But, I know Harry's a huge fan of him. But, thanks for the postive reply. That's something I'm not used to seeing here. Harry hasn't been asked to score the new film, and seeing as it's a Platinum Dunes release, I don't think he will be either. But, don't quote me on that. I would hope that Platinum Dunes would at least have he decency to ASK him if he's interested (something that supposedly New Line did NOT do for "FREDDY VS JASON"). Anyways, thanks for the polite reply.
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Alright, I didn't know about Penerecki, I also had never heard his name I have to say. But Mr. Manfredini is a big fan of Bernard Herrmann isn't he ? And hey, I'm all about politeness on here, unless it involves commenting on Memories Of Murder's opinions on film related stuff of course.
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...there is no way this could be any worse. Waste of time, money, and resources - sure. Worse? Nah.
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Just lay down, dude. Jarv put the ownage to you - hard. He explained EXACTLY what makes you a cunt. Take it like a man because the more you try to defend yourself the more you sound like a complete moron.
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if the sound has been changed. What matters is what's on the soundtrack of the film and that is CLEARLY ch-ch-ch-ch ah-ah-ah-ah.
Look. For the sound of Arnie's shotgun in T2 they combined a lot of sounds including canon fire, because a normal shotgun blast wasn't giving off the impression of being a shotgun blast on screen. Still, you don't refer to it as his "cannon" and you don't refer to it as "cannon blasts", you say "shotgun" because that's what's on screen and in the fucking movie.
The blasters in Star Wars were sounds sampled from metal wires that ben burrt hit with a small hammer, but you still refer to the sounds on the soundtrack as "blaster fire" because that's what they sound like after mixing.
So even if "kill" and "mom" was sampled, what came out after mixing and what is heard on the soundtrack is "ch" and "ah" and that's what it is.
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Christ you are a little bitch. That is complete gibberish. My English is, as it should be, nigh on perfect. You may fail to realise this as it doesn't match your misguided beliefs, but of the 2 of us- I write clearly and concisely in Queen's English using colloquilisms and common maxims properly, you spout some spanglish crap and mis-use phrases that are extremely common in the language (see above).I only started on grammar because you did. What a way to illustrate my point. I have a new policy for you. Every time I see you spouting crap I am simply going to call you a cunt and post a link to the AvP TB to reveal your utter hypocrisy.
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