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Break-Out The Ecto-Goop & Load-Up That CGI!! Will A New POLTERGEIST Movie Know What Scares You??
Merrick here...
Bloody Disgusting says a new POLTERGEIST film will move forward as soon as the writers strike is resolved. It'll be from Mandate, for MGM. This possibility has been in the wind for some time now, but Bloody Disgusting says the matter is now solid. Because, you know, there is no ORIGINAL material to be found ANYWHERE in Hollywood...and because studios would rather be lazy and release product which is pretty-much pre-marketed...
You can read BD's report HERE!
There have been several runs at POLTERGEIST projects over the years. Recent examples include:
POLTERGEIST KAYERI (this period piece prequel would've detailed the origins of the supernatural fucked-upness that tormented the Freeling family in the three existing films). And...
POLTERGEIST: IN THE SHADOWS (a spec script by Michael Grais, which is said to pick-up with a now-adult, and still haunted, Carol Anne Freeling. Grais co-scripted the first two films).
It's unclear whether any of the above-mentioned material can (or will) be called upon to generate the new film, although it's an extremely safe bet that The Powers That Be will start from scratch.
I've always LOVED the trailer for the original film; the narration...the tone. They don't make trailers like this anymore. Too bad.
What worked about the first film (regardless of who actually directed it) is its atmosphere. The moments of unnerving silence...the poetic beauty shattered by horrific cacophony. We're not likely to get a film which plays by the same rules...because most modern films of this ilk simply aren't as deft, confident, or competent.
What do you think?
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STOP DOING THIS YOU FUCKS.
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Poltergeist is perfect. Leave it the hell alone.
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we just need to think of some kid actors we want to die after filming. My first choice.... Little Miss Sunshine.
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The ONLY way this will work. Or maybe get Tim Story, the legend, to direct.
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AHHHAHHHAHHHAAAA Your so funny, yes Tim Story, that was so original.
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up late and lookin for an argument. Hey I know lets start talking politics, that seems to work a lot here.
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Nov 13, 2007 9:02:43 AM CST
umm...Geoge Bush is reponsible for all evil in
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the world. Thoughts?
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Damn I'm stupid, maybe I could one day be President?
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There is nothing more kind that could be said about moving foward with something like this, just flat out whorey.
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should be punched in the face.
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They can never outdo the original movie...Spielberg's touch gave it humanity, the sequels are just schlocky. I watched this again recently, and I love how well drawn out the parent's characters are...and how they're kind of ex-hippies, and she smokes pot in their bedroom, and when the disturbances start she tries to convince Steven to have an open mind "like he used to have", but now he's a part of the corporate world...the cold corporate world that fucks them in the end by selling them a house on top of a graveyard without removing the bodies. There's great underlying stuff in the movie that the sequels don't even come close to.
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And how about lindsay lohan as the older sister,the creepy kid {cameron bright} as the brother and Paul walker plus Sarah michelle Gellar as the parents....
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No man, thats the perfect list for this drock. Now we just wait for the curse to kill them all.
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I mean it!
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...will be replaced by Steve Jablonsky.
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Good comment!
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The problem with CGI is that filmmakers don't have to be innovative anymore. There's no more limitations. the origianl scared us with real-life things; a doll, a tree, etc, before breaking out the big FX guns. You just know the remake will hit us hard with the CGI from the get go. As House on Haunted Hill, 13 Ghosts, The Haunting (remakes) have all demonstrated, electronic bogeymen are just not scary. The original used the art of the slow build to unsettle us before breaking out what are, in retrospect, pretty overdone scare tactics. it's the little things that unsettle -- the chairs in the kitchen, that fucking clown doll, etc. Why is Alien scary? because we never see the dmaned thing in it's entirety until the end. Why is the original Haunting scary? Because everything's done with sound effects. This kind of style and innovation are quickly going by the wayside. One can always hope this will be a return to form for the series, but who are we kidding. I haven't been scared in a movie for a long, long time.
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Say no to remakes!
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/moviegeeksunited/blog/2007/11/11/POLTERGEIST-discussion-with-writerproducer-Michael-Grais
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Who eventually gets his amateur ass kicked out of the chair by Speilberg.
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The remakes shall walk the Earth.
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When will Hollywood stop pillaging itself and create something new? Do they really have so little faith in their creative abilities that they feel they need to rely on a (barely) recognizable franchise? "Re-imaginings" are revolting.
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"Ya know why I was kicked-off POLTERGEIST? Because Martian radar already broadcast the movie at least a year before it was released. I took the rap. It has nothing to do with me being an untalented hack. Sure, CABIN FEVER and my other shitpiles are all derivative. But Quentin still loves me, even thouh HOSTEL II tanked. He still wants me to hang around his house at Christmas! I dress at Mrs. Claus and hand-out candy canes to guests. Happy Holidays!"
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what a rotten idea. Fucking wankers. I bet Ratner directs.
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There is only one man who can honor the genius of Jerry Goldsmtih for this film. Klaus Badelt.
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i really don't know if hollywood know's or cares about the damage they are doing to their reputation. it's gotten to the point now where if the film hasn't got a director with a proven track record there's no point bothering. and that list of directors seems to be getting smaller.
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I can't really explain it. There have been endless debates about CGI on talkbacks here. CGI doesn't look real. Of course, it isn't real. But neither were a lot of the in-camera effects done 20 or 30 years ago but somehow they were still frightening. Maybe that is because we knew they really existed in the tangible world and we know GCI exists in a computer. I was watching the surgery table scene from The Thing recently, the one where the guy's head comes off and sprouts the spider legs. A lot of it looks like rubber today, but it also has a "how the hell did they do that" quality. It's still genuinely unsettling.
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..i admit i liked Hostel a bit, but only because i hadn't seen any asian torture horror yet, and i guess that week i wanted a torture and revenge story....but Cabin Fever? I don't get what people's fascination was with that piece of crap. when i saw it on TV i thought it was a Sci-Fi original shit fest...terrible acting, played out premise...it went by the books of a 'teen sex camp' horror movie, adding nothing to it. it was not an Homage, it was formulaic. the effects were shit....the one cool thing about it- the poster....
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i would say that may b because cgi is too beautiful to look real. when have you ever looked at cgi and thought "that's stunning". now, when have you ever looked at cgi and thought you could reach out and touch it. the artists cannot help but make cg art look as beautiful as they can. it's in their dna. i think it's a case of it hasn't been done right yet. i mean look at the cgi from competent directors like spielberg in jurassic park (i can't think of any other examples at the moment but you get my meaning) that looks real enough
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I OWN all TIm Story/ Jason BIggs CGI fest remake posts. Please check past posts. Those who do not now history, are doomed to get my cane in their ass.
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LOVED the original. Less than no interest in another sequel. None. Zero. Zilch.
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i've always said CGI is too clear and detailed that it sticks out like a sore thumb in an other wise imperfect and focusable, tangible movie.
I agree it's in an artist's nature to want to add all the little details, but they add too much- the image is too sharp. you are too busy looking at all the little things that went into the overworked creature or effect to actually visually involve it in the movie....this technology which at one time could be considered magic has literally taken the magic out of film. Puppetry, props, real effects- all are better IMO and we have the technology to make them seamlessly real. The THING was a great example of that, over 20 years old. Over-reliance on CG in the SW prequels was their achilles heel (scripting aside)...but now that the technique has been so streamlined and cost efficient, i think it will only get worse. Now with movies like Beowulf, where they proudly state that even actors can be replaced.....what's the fate of the FX man?....events like romero using CGI blood and gunshots in land of the dead....how sad a day!...i mean, how hard or expensive are squibs and bloodpacks to an old pro? -
in a double feature with Pumpkinhead (which I'd never seen prior to Halloween). I love Poltergeist, especially with the tragedy surrounding that actress. And because it scared the bejesus out of me when I first saw it years ago. A remake huh? Wow, that is really frightening.
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Only if it's an R-rating. Or NC-17. Or maybe they could just remake The Entity, which never delivered on the concept.
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than this but I can't. And I even thought about peg-legging my jeans.
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unless they recast warwick. BASTARDS
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winston zeddemore, ray stanz, a pke meter and a ghost trap hunting ghosts is all i wanna see.
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JoBeth Williams was a MILF before anybody knew what a MILF was. I think she's like 61 years old now and I'd still like some of that.
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Before throwing around the 'r' word, you should really read the news story. The stuff about grown up carol ann were only examples by merrick of what had be previously talked about doing. There is no information on what the studios will choose to do with it yet. It's more likely, as merrick points out, it will be a remake. Calm down. Chill out. What is with your people? when do you have to be so god damn angry all the fucking time.
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and in far less words :)
oh and my last line should read - why do you people have to be so god damn angry all the fucking time?
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I would love to see Vince Vaughn in something like that.
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then no one can pin me down to making a mistake about the facts....:)
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CGI was scary in Jurassic Park, AND it looked real. Maybe cos it was the first and everyone was so in awe of the accomplishment, but even today, I swear it looks about as good and as well-integrated into the action of the movie as just about any that's come since...and I don't need another Poltergeist, remake or sequel...
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I saw the orignal Poltergeist in theaters as a kid, and I have never seen the movie again. Oh yeah, I've seen a smidge here or there when it was on TV, but this movie scared (scarred?) the hell out of me. It wasn't that creepy clown who grew up to star in his own movie, Killer Klowns from Outer Space, but the scene where the paranormal dude ripped his face off. That just creeped the hell out of me. It was all psychological too, as it starts as a small but, and the more he touches, tears, he loses it until there is nothing left, and nothing he can do. I get the shivers just thinking about it now.
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on this site that I haven't seen or heard of again. this is just bullshit no validity at all, there will never be a POLTERGEIST remake or a continuation. Again I ask for some REAL news please, about something interesting that a real film fan might consider seeing. Thank you.
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And he is the one that suffers the Poltergeist Curse.
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Hey guess what? Kids don't like old crap. I know Poltergeist is a great movie. I love it. My 14 year old sister does not, because she has literally no connection with any of the characters or frame of reference to the period. Remakes are a good idea, often poorly realized. Instead of blindly bashing them because Harry or Moriarity or whoever hates them, try and help directors make them better by posting constructive criticism.
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It is nice when you can pass a great story down to younger kids who won't necessarily connect to the original in the same way you did.
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at least his movies aren't fucking remakes. (Although they could technically be considered remakes of his other movies, lol.)
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No, you are wrong. Remakes suck.
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Those clown dolls are scary enough.
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The only two I can think of are Dawn of the Dead and The Hills Have Eyes. Notice I said remakes made after 1990 (which was 17 years ago) so I don't want anyone chiming in with The Fly, The Thing, Maltese Falcon, The Wizard of Oz, etc... Hilarious sidenote: The Halloween remake has only made 10 million dollars more than the original did back in 1978 with a microbudget. When you take inflation into account, you gotta admit that people touting the new Halloween's box office "success" is hilarious.
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Gus Van Sant style remakes. I really hope this doesn't happen, but we already know the tv goons are planning on pumping out reality garbage, so I wouldn't be shocked if their movie counterparts produce this sort of remakes (the cinema's artisic equivalant of reality television).
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Because that was a great movie all around. Or are we just counting remakes of American films? In which case, yeah most of them are pretty damn shitty. -
I dont even have the energy to prove my point on how it's wrong to make them, but dr sauch, u r a friggin dip shit
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So we now have three good post 1990 remakes (at least in my mind). I'd say Insomnia would make the cut if it weren't for character played by Hillary Swank in it.
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... When they can have CGI-goop! Hopefully everyone involved has forgotten Poltergeist: The Legacy. I know I have, thankfully. I've also forgotten most of those godawful 1990s direct-to-syndication shows... EXCEPT Cleopatra 2525. They can remake that one just as many times as they want... and I'll always watch! Ah... the 90s...
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yeah, i'd be hard pressed to come up with 10. the eighties wasn't too bad at some of the remakes (fly, thing, etc) nobody bitched how untrue to the original that the FLY remake was, they just ate it up (no pun intended)...
one good '90 remake to me was the night of the living dead with patricia tallman and tony todd. alot of 'dead' fans don't like it for some reason, thought it was unecessary or something, but other than the younger actors, i thought it was a solid remake and installment. a reboot before it was cool to do reboots. and with tom savini directing and doing FX, pretty damn good. -
Nov 13, 2007 1:48:52 PM CST
Tom Savini is a blood covered, 4 star general of the undead legi
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but I'm sorry the NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD remake was not good at all.
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In the 80's we did see some quality remakes that became classic films in their own right (The Thing, Scarface, The Fly). I'd attribute this to the fact that there were actually some good ideas and passionate directors. Most remakes of the past decade and a half have been made either because studios/talent know they have name recognition/built in audience, or it's a cool title so they just buy the title and make a whole new film. I'm not inherently against remakes, but I do think more people wouldn't have such a negative response to them if there were more good ones out there.
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If this movie is a sequel and not a remake, I'll be more optimistic about its chances. Maybe Harry can start up an AICN betting pool on which cast member will be dead by the end of filming?
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We can see what chemicals Zelda R. was talking about, and delve into the curse (not just the deaths, but also Craig T. Nelson cursing the nation with 5 years of Coach!!)
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oh yeah
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It's just fucking pathetic.
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DAWN OF THE DEAD (new version) was hardly a zombie movie. Dead bodies don't sprint as fast as they can. He made the right decision because he had to turn the film into something different from the original, but the effectivness of the original is also gone. Seeing a threat creep calmly towards u when u have no escape causes the fear to seep slowly down into the viewer's heart. That's way more effective than manipulating their senses with surprise attacks
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NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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the great thing about the original NOTLD is that it's public domain now. you can reuse the footage or remake the entire thing for free, basically.
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Seriously. Ethan Hawke AND Lawrence Fishburne! Watchable and enjoyably nasty.
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if you want to see some HORRIBLE living dead action, check out 'children of the living dead'...it's On Demand (cable) now, and i went into it with no clue as to what it was. Tom savini was in it for a few minutes...but the whole thing looks like it was shot by a kid in highschool on a cellphone camera.....it is bad in SO many directions...quality aside, it picks up and starts off looking like the end of NOTLD (new and old) where rednecks are reclaiming the world through guns....so i gave it a few more minutes, where it immediately went to hell. apparently a zombie left behind chilling in a barn for like 15 years (doing...nothing?)has some awesome power to dig up corpses and bite them to bring them back to life.
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It'll just have terrible production value, CGI and unmemorable music. Just listen to the music in the original trailer. Musical scores in movies are shit today!
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than uninformed TB posts that say the same thing the last guy said. Also, adding the work FUCK to your title doesn't gain you points on originality...
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Maybe not just one of his best, but one of the best of all time. The perfect mix of beauty and horror.
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At 6. 45 this morning GMT explorers in the antartic uncovered buried in ice what appeared to be "an original idea" that some are considering sending to Hollywood. The head of the expedition, Dr. Hugo Fymerflixer-Roth, had this to say-"We dont know eactly whether the thing will make money, but honestly I've never seen anything like it before...its not a sequel, a remake, a re-imagining, an adaptation from a comic book, or a remake or re-imagining of an adaptaion of a comic, nor is it a remake of a cartoon, a tv show or a toy line. Honestly, its like some one went to great effort to actually think it up. And its for a movie! These kind of things are usually reserved for t.v nowadays....".
The content of the idea has been kept a secret by top Hollywood executives until they can think of a way to simplify it down into a "A meets B"formula. The closest description given at time of press was "its like something original meets something new-on acid!" by an enthuiastic Hollywood hack.
However,almost two whole minutes after the discovery Michael Bay, top Hollywood producer/ director behind such classics as the Texas Chainsaw remake, the Amityville Remake, the Birds Remake and the Friday the 13th remake has paid through the nose to option the inevitable remake. When asked for comment Mr. Bay had this to say "Even though someone talented hasn't actually made the movie yet, I think that we need to update the story for future times...in twenty years I think we are gonna need a balls to the the wall, huge budget version of what ever this idea might be...and Im the guy top deliver that. Well, I wont direct it, I'll just produce, take a bit of flack for it and then sit back and rake in the cash of the people who go to see the remake of whatever this is will bring"
Meanwhile Eli Roth promises a career turn as he makes a film that he describes as "fucking awesome sick shit. Its gonna be totally fucking sick and awesome this shit man"
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The problem with CG is that they are too perfect, and this is an imperfect world. The human eye can spot fakery,..it knows it when it sees it. This is why those old Star Destroyer shots in the original SW felt so real...they occupied a physical space and they were imperfect.
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Vince Vaugh for Peter Vinkman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A remake of a ZOMBIE movie. I'm reffering to the rules set forth by the original films. A fictional place where dead bodies do not in fact "sprint". Did anyone see me type anything about the real world? I dont' think so. Way to talk shit out of context douche bag.
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ahh I dont give a shit, fuck you
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Vince Vaughn for Venkman. Owen Wilson for Ray Stantz. Orlando Jones for Winston Zeddemore (didn't he play that already in EVOLUTION? ;D). Zach Braff for Egon Spengler. John C McFuckingGinley for Walter Peck!!! Megan Fox for Dana Barrett, DJ Qualls for Louis Tully. Amy Smart for Janine Melnitz. Alexis Bledel for Gozer the Gozerian. I have no idea for the new Stay-Puft monster - Fred the Homepride dude maybe?
Get Ben Stiller to direct, and keep him - for God's sake! - away from the Walter Peck or Louis Tully roles. ILM - SFX. Ban George Lucas from any involvement whatsoever. Watch the monies roll in!!! -
I'd actually cast Selma Blair as Dana Barrett. But you KNOW you'd like to see a possessed Megan Fox in there somewhere!!!
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I can't fucking decide. A little help here?!?!?
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i'm with you on vaughn as venkman, i can't think of anyone else snarky enough. just wipe fred claus from your mind and think about it...i don't know if i'd drag the whole wilson and friends angle into things, but zach as egon...visually funny, too young IMO, and i haven't seen him play a quiet geek yet.
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somewhere in the mix.....simon pegg as peck? frost as ray?
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They should hire me to write and direct. Alternative universe is definitely the way to go - keep the characters and concept, maybe refer to Gozer and Terror Dogs etc for the old fans, but go for a new plot, new peril etc, but in the same comedic vein as the original. Personally my favourite casting is John C McFucking Ginley as Walter Peck. You SCRUBS fans know he makes an awesome villain!!!
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fuck yourself, I didn't start shit
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ha ha just kidding, but how about a crossover with ghostbusters and poltergeist into one big horror comedy nostalgia extravaganza...
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...in remaking good films. Why not remake the ones that were bad (ie. good stories executed poorly)?
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i just tossed out. egads!
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This is a modern rollercoaster ride of a movie that had a fantastic cast and at the time genuinely frightning effects.
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a different trailer for Poltergeist which was even scarier (to me, anyway). A sequence of paranormal experts explaining the types of phenomena shown in the movie, making it all look legit and terrifying. Is THAT trailer on YouTube, I wonder.
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Allow me to agree wholeheartedly with the other posters who have mentioned Jerry Goldsmith's landmark original score. Easily in his top ten, and as brilliant an example of the art form as you're likely to find. Notice how the theme for the "light" (beginning with a five-note musical peak) is a rough inversion of the theme for the "dark" (beginning with a five-note descent). He also sneaks a "Dies Irae" quote into the finale. These aren't things the average filmgoer will notice consciously (and if the music isn't spectacular to begin with, they don't amount to much) but it's little touches like that that give Goldsmith's scores such an enduring quality. Anyone who doesn't have the OOP (and very pricey on the secondary market) Rhino CD of the complete score is missing out big-time. As for who should write the score for another sequel ... I don't know. Elliot Goldenthal would be an interesting choice. Anyone with chops, really. Elfman, Shore, Powell ... Beltrami's score for the Omen remake was decent. If the producers are willing to shell out, though -- and assuming the film turns out to be worthy of his talents -- I'd be very excited to see John Williams attached. If any composer alive can rival Goldsmith's legacy, it's Williams. Under different circumstances, he might well have scored the original.
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I said the theme for the "dark" begins with a five-note "descent". What I meant to say was "valley". Over five notes, the musical line descends, then ascends again -- as opposed to the "peak" of the theme for the "light". (Goldsmith was always doing interesting stuff like this. Next time you watch "Star Trek: The Motion Picture", pay attention to the way Ilia's Theme and Vejur's Theme are virtually identical -- with the "human" or "machine" personality coming out in whether the third note is in a major or minor mode.)
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was special because of the lighter moments, giving it the verisimilitude necessary to believe the wilder moments when all hell breaks loose. Spielberg, er, um, Hooper, yeah, takes his time to show us the family and get to know them. The sequel will go for awesome-frickin'-hardcore terror from start to finish, and the audience's experience will suffer because of it.
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i used to think he was great until i listen to swan lake and realized that he pretty much swiped every great rif in the star wars movies from it.
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the DAWN remake was filled with more of what was like the "mindless evil dead" if you will, and they happen to eat flesh
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so no one freak out
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your making me laugh now, no hard feelings on this end big guy
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but that old preacher guy is one of the scariest motherfuckers in movie history. That has to count for something.
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When the house imploded, they literally built a big ass detailed model house and sucked it through a vacuum. IF they fucked up that shot, they would have had to rebuild the whole thing. Nowadays you would just scan the house into the computer and enter some parameters and render.
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If you two don't start behavin' yourselves I'm gonna go fuck ALL a y'all. So behave ;D
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He's in his hoooooooly temple!!!
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Do we need a remake of this? It's great! Arghhhh!!!!
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Nov 13, 2007 6:18:20 PM CST
one reason we won't get such a great popcorn horror movie...
by ufoclub1977
Is because there might not be any filmmakers today that try to study the current real cultural trends/elements of mainstream middle class people and then try to inject a crazy, creative, funny storyline within that heavily textured world? It's that combination that worked so well for Speilberg in the past. He had kids that seemed realistic (rudeness and all), parents that smoked pot, brand names, commercial jingles, the right appliances, etc. It made the movies seem real even though they were obviously fantastic.
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Come on. Someone had to do it. :)
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I think Vaughn would be great in something like this but he doesn't have to be Venkman. In fact, the franchise could be rebooted with a new generation of Ghostbusters with cameos from the old crew. Favreau could direct it.
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The fact that other people cite Holst's The Planets as the source Williams "stole" from in Star Wars shows there are many influences woven together in that score. Often a film score is trying to evoke familiar emotions by quoting familiar music and it's particularly the case in Star Wars that music must express feelings that a flat acting style and mechanical/alien "characters" cannot.
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Venkman = Vince Vaughn,
Stantz = Paul Giamatti,
Egon = Adrien Brody,
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Cape Fear, The Thomas Crown Affair, The Departed, Insomnia, Jackson's Kong, Ocean's 11, The Talented Mr. Ripley, Dawn of the Dead, The Nutty Professor, Vanilla Sky. I like Gus' Psycho remke.
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I enjoyed The Ring. It's one of the only American remakes of J-Horror films that I like. Verbinski was behind it though, so that's probably why it was good.
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There was going to be a third GB movie that Akroyd wanted to do was where the four of them go into an alternate universe of "Man-hell-tan" (Get it? Like Manhattan, except evvvvilllll...) Anyway, Murray said no to that wonderful idea over and over and over again, but finally conceded to doing it using motion-capture (think Monster House).Well, after that Akroyd still couldn't get the movie off the ground, so they're just adapting everything they've already done into a videogame. You can find the footage on YouTube, looks great.And I vote Vince Vaughn for Peter, Simon Pegg for Ray, and Stephen Colbert for Egon and Donald Faison for Winston.
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none of this explains why AICN still has a tiled, bad image from indepenence day for a background, all these years later....fuck, BLACK would be better (and save energy too!) go black-er GREEN AICN! ;)
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Rainn Wilson for Ray
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but a remake is one of the worst remake ideas I've ever heard. There are really only a few horror movies in existance that are really pervasively effective, that sincerely scare you, and continue to scare you after 20 viewings. Poltergeist is one, The Shining and the Exorcist are others. These rare horror films got it perfect, and there is no reason to ever remake them, because you simply can't get it better than the original product. Make a sequel if you want, or a prequel, but for the love of God do not remake this film. It will die a horrible death, the Haunting remake should have proved to everyone that CGI horror effects are simply not scary in any way.
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are horror movies featuring either the pasty, staring dead child or the pasty scraggly haired dead girl who's face you can never see unless it's accompanied by a screaming loud orchestra hit, or a combination of both. Also, stop making horror movies where in the third act it's revealed that the ghost really doesn't mean harm, it's just been trying all along to communicate with the protagonist so that he or she can solve the mystery of where the ghosts body is, or who killed it. It's a testament to the kind of world we live in now where even the evil entities in horror films receive the PC treatment, where we have to see their side of things or their motivations. I guess hollywood just doesn't want to piss off the ghost lobby by stereotyping them as 'evil'.
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Everyone in that movie was just playing themselves. It would be like remaking Seinfeld with someone else playing Seinfeld. Sure they had different names but Venkman was just Bill being Bill and etc. And if Vince Vaughn is going to be in it then they need to get Jon Favreau in it too. If he can lose a little weight.
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And re-make Citizen Kane!
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So, ghost, haunt, specter, spirit and Casper are all used up too then.
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The original was boring as batshit and staggeringly tame.
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And FUCK HOLLYWOOD for their lack of originality.
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can't stop the remakes. Holy shit this is ridiculous. Steven Spielberg and Tobe Hooper must be rolling in their graves.
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Nov 14, 2007 12:15:41 AM CST
IF THE GHOST OF A SLUT WOULD POSSESS MEGAN FOX'S VAGINA
by bringingsexyback
then it would be worth watching.
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Let them rest, they've earned it.
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Documentary style,with talking-head boffins explaining the poltergeist phenomenon?Where can I find it?
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Too bad
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BenBraddock. I have the "Deluxe Letter-Box Edition"; making of featurette (EPK), gallery and trailers (domestic and international).
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And I don't mean the White Page of Doom, I mean the Poltergeist curse. Who's gonna die this time?
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Obviously do-able with an adult Carol Anne.
I always thought the opening for a Poltergeist 4 should be an entire family experiencing the ending of the original - their house being sucked into the spirit world - but not being as lucky as the Freelings. -
10 good remakes? getthefuckouttahere Kong, Oceans 11, Ripley, Vanilla Sky and The Nutty Professor are shit at best. The Thomas Crown Affair, and Insomnia, and Cape Fear are ok-ish and only Dawn of the Dead and the departed are any good. And even they are not a patch on the originals. Assault on Precinct 13 and Ring are FUCKING APPALLING especially when compared to the originals.Actually bona-fides Good remakes that are worthy of the original and are good films in their own right (which is why OCeans doesn't make it) are rarer than rocking horse shit. Especially horror ones. I struggle to think of any post 1990 remakes. The Departed comes the nearest, but still...
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I agree with the poster who suggested remaking bad movies rather than the good ones. Case in point would be "Judge Dredd" which in my opinion would make an excellent movie franchise. Hell ... even though the Sly Stallone version was crap you gotta admit the few scenes of Mega-City One were great as was the makeup for the Angel Gang (especially Mean Machine) and Hammerstein (the ABC robot).
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That is a very, very good idea.
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I'll go even further - I think Stallone was great in the role. You just have to face the fact that no-one in Hollywood has the balls to make a movie where Dredd stays helmeted all the way through. I also got the impression that Stallone got the idea of this being a fascist satire - that he coud be badass and be a symbol of everything wrong with fascism AT THE SAME TIME. Quite a feat for the man who is Rocky Balboa. Kudos to him for giving that movie a well played Dredd. Diane Lane was the only other person in it to get aay with any dignity. Oh, and Max Von Sydow, who since the Exorcist has been immune to criticism
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We're together on the politics of the UK but we definitely disagree on movies. How was ASSUALT ON PRECINCT 13 awful? What, the original was a paragon of 70s paranoia action movies? And as for the RING... At least the US version remembered that a horror movie should SCARE YOU! Unlike the Japanese original. And don't even get me started on RING 2 and RING 0 from Japan... Awful. Just awful.
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Just re-read your first post (well done on that!). Couldn't put it better myself.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!
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I couldn't agree with me more.
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OI! HARRY! Yes, you with the Mrs Knowles!
Where's the talkback on the scuttlebutt regarding Doctor Who Season 5 over here? Apparently, Tennant is leaving in Season 5, and the new assistant may be Lily fucking Allen (please God no), or Kylie Minogue (please YES!) and Tennant's replacement may be posh Welsh tramp Rhys Ifans(easily the ugliest Gallifreyan ever) or John Simm.
Yes, THAT John Simm. The one who played The Master. No, I don't fucking understand it either.
All this makes me cry, and I want a flame war with Smashing over why thinking RTD can't write makes me a homophobe, then Tegujai Batir can appear and call me a twat. Ah, old times.
Come on Harry, where's the Who stuff? Link follows:
http://tinyurl.com/35 nthc
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Why is it that every time I see your TB name, I'm reminded of the speech by Sophia Myles in Dr Who (The girl in the fireplace):
"Kindly remember, this is Versailles. And we are French!"
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While you have your eyes wide open on the state of modern Britain, you are dismally wrong about both those examples: 1)Assault on Precinct 13 is itself a remake- but brilliantly transported the western. The opening scene with the silent killing is fucking fantastic, and it is anchored by some magic set pieces, inspired direction (remember, this is before the decline of carpenter) wicked scripting, and solid acting. The remake is shitty, tedious anodyne dreck aimed purely at the platinum dunes audience that totally failed to capture anything the original had that made it great. 2)the Japenese Ring pissed all over the American version- I've seen more frightening birthday cards than that bunch of (Kruger penned) arse. The shame is that a western Remake COULD have been fantastic, (remove all the Goblin stupidity to start with) but they hired a writer with no vision- who even managed to bottle out of the bleak ending. Ring 0 is painful, but Ring 2 has its moments- one of which Kruger stole verbatim- so it is silly to write it off altogether. All 3 of them are masterpieces compared to American Ring 2 which is painful beyond belief.
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I saw it too! Me and my friends rented during our summer of $1 bad movie rentals at the local Video Warehouse a couple years ago, back when I was off for the summer during college. TERRIBLE movie, but we had fun watching it.
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son of a bitch
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Can we please, please, get a City of the Walking Dead remake first? Such a classic, but it is showing its age.
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Wow... another movie me and some friends rented on our summer of $1 rentals. Holy shit, there is some hilariously bad stuff in that movie:
1) There's a part where someone throws an unplugged television at a zombie, and the TV explodes in a fireball as if it was an explosive device or some shit.
2) Gotta love the zombies with weapons and terrible makeup that bullets apparently have no effect on, but have supreme weakness to hand-to-hand from this one reporter guy.
3) One of the biggest OMGWTFBBQLMFAO endings ever. *spoiler* The hero wakes up just everything looks bleak as he is about to get killed by zombies, the movie starts over again the same way as it began, and the zombie outbreak happens (like it supposedly happened in his dream, zombies coming out of a passenger airplane). The screen freezes and the words, "THE NIGHTMARE BECOMES REAL!" appear on the screen. The End! -
just cuz I can.
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That sucks, though the guy from Life on Mars could be good, even though he was already the Master. Rhys Ifans could work, he kind of has that Tom Baker charm. REALLY sucks about the pop tarts in line for the companion role though, that's just shit.
Oh yeah, and the original J Ring was fucking scary. American version doesn't count because I've chosen to deny it's existence. -
I run one of the biggest "Poltergeist" fan sites on the web. You can read the full history of the sequel/remake rumors at
http://tinyurl.com/ywxl4v
Note: Some of the info Merrick posted above is incorrect. "Kayeri" was not going to be a prequel; it was to have followed Steve Freeling as he battled the Rev. Kane again (with Diane and Carol Anne coming back towards the end).
Regarding Michael Grais' script, it was never confirmed whether it involved an adult Carol Anne. Also, he'd only written a treatment for it, not a full script. He said on a blog radio show Sunday that it hadn't been bought by MGM and he wasn't hired to write the script (but apparently he must have had some discussions with them). -
Hey, I don't know if this is common knowledge or not but Clint, that runs Moviehole.net, WROTE the script. I think it was in development at one stage. Can anyone tell me anything about it???
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Nov 15, 2007 3:18:12 PM CST
Just got off the phone with the Poltergeist... he said RATHATHAH
by sleeptones
hahahha
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nobody can shake the clown, just check out
kindertrauma.com for proof!
http://tinyurl.com/yqcw8a
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