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Another pair of reviews from THE MIST come in! One loves it, one hates it! Who is right?
SPOILER ALERT !!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Never let it be said I don't give both sides when it comes to a particular film. I have two reviews that came in for Frank Darabont's adaptation of Stephen King's THE MIST. The first is a really, really, really negative reaction to the flick and the second is pretty much the polar opposite. Beware of slight spoilers, especially if you don't know anything about King's original story. Enjoy!
Quint,
This is my first time writing to AICN. I usually let the other people do the reviewing, and simply read. But after seeing The Mist at an advanced screening yesterday, and then reading three very positive reviews, I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't warn your readers not to pay attention to them. THE MIST is one of the worst films of the year, and there is no dancing around that.
This is also coming from someone who has been waiting for this film for a while. I'm a huge Darabont fan, as well as a King fan. The first trailer for this film floored me. It looked incredible. So I was excited that I got to see an advanced screening in NYC. However, then the film started...
Within the first five minutes, a friend of mine started making fun of the initial terrible dialogue. I hit him and told him not to be "that guy" who sits in the back and makes fun. However, literally 10 minutes later, I gave him the go ahead. It was just that bad that I physically could not resist from laughing. Now onto what's bad...
The script. I'm majoring in screenwriting at NYU currently, and I can tell you from a writer's perspective, this script made George Lucas' dialogue look like Coen Brother's dialogue. It's so flat it hurts, and every action each character takes is incredibly forced. For example... "I promise! There is an alien tentacle in the back! Don't believe me? Go look!" ... "No. I won't take the four foot walk to go and look. You're trying to trick me because of that lawsuit you won a few years back!" What? Are you serious?
There are scenes in every horror movie where you feel like screaming "Run out the front door!" In this film, you find yourself screaming things like "Take the ten seconds to explain yourself instead of insisting people just believe you!" That happens every five minutes, and that "confusion" is what fuels every character decision. And when that isn't happening, they simply throw in another biblical rant by Marcia Gay Harden, which by the end are so annoying that I would put my head down and attempt to fall asleep, knowing that if I woke up in ten minutes she would just be nearing the end of her speech.
I would, however, recommend this film for drinking games worldwide. If you take a shot everytime the line "There's something in the mist!!" comes up, you won't make it halfway into the movie. And then you'll miss the great explanation of why the mist is ever there, which boasts my personal favorite line of the film: It wasn't my fault!! It was the scientists!!!
Not only did this script offend me as a writer, but as a human being. If I was an alien, I'm sure the shitty CGI would offend me too. Nothing about the look of this film worked. The mist effect was nice in the beginning, but it didn't do much for me after they locked themselves down in the store.
The only performance in this film that I somewhat liked was Toby Jones, and only because whenever something was going wrong he would pop up with his handy revolver and shoot the shit out of it. Other than that, nobody impressed me. Numerous times mid-film Thomas Jane turned into the Punisher. That was kind of cool, but in a "ha ha that was funny" kind of way.
There was an elder woman sitting in the row next to me, and from start to finish she was laughing her ass off. Seriously people. It's that bad.
I'm a huge horror fan. I'm a huge Darabont fan. I'm a huge King fan. But I wouldn't pay the price it took to manufacture the paper that my free pass was printed on to see this film.
-BlackMariah
Yikes. That's not just a negative review. That's, like, a jihad. BlackMariah really hated it. I disagree and so does our next reviewer: GAH!
I'm not sure if it's too late to be of any use, but I felt like chiming in on "The Mist," a movie that worried me at first, but completely won me over before its rather remarkable ending. I'll try to keep this light on the spoilers.
"The horrors of the Inquisition are nothing compared to the fates your mind can imagine for your loved ones." - David Drayton, "The Mist."
Growing up in the Eighties and Nineties, the rivalry with my older brother led us to become territorial over our favorite authors. I got Douglas Adams, he got Stephen King. So while he absolutely devoured Richard Bachman's alterego, the best I could hope for was sneaking in a few pages of "It" or "Misery" while he was busy playing Sega Genesis. Of the few bits of Stephen King I finished in secret, "The Mist" was my favorite. The suspense, the claustrophobia, the immediacy and bleakness of the narrative, and the batshit insanity of Mrs. Carmody warped my then ten-year-old mind in the best possible way. So I've been following Frank Darabont's adaptation with great interest, and I pounced on the chance to see it at the AICN Drafthouse screening.
I have to say, this is easily the best Stephen King horror adaptation since "The Dark Half." When fidelity to the source material is taken into account, it is probably the most successful Stephen King horror adaptation ever.
The movie opens with an ingenious bit of fan service, with Darabont utilizing the incomparable artwork of Drew Struzan to great (and heartbreaking) effect. That night a powerful storm hits, and the next morning formerly feuding neighbors David Drayton (Thomas Jane) and Brent Norton (Andre Braugher) forge an uneasy peace as they travel to the supermarket with David's son Billy (Nathan Gamble from Babel).
And then the Mist rolls in. And people start to lose their shit.
And this is where the movie almost lost me. What doesn't quite work character-wise is lifted almost directly from the page, so King is equally culpable. The business with bag boy and his boneheaded decision and the dust-up with Brent Norton ring a little too false. Of the places where Darabont could have taken liberties, these two scenes could have used tweaking.
Also, what turns out to be the weakest CGI in the movie takes place in the loading dock scene, with tentacles that looks a little too shiny, a little too weightless, and a little too animated. Thankfully, the rest of the CGI in the movie is much better, with Cafe FX turning in work comparable to their stellar job on "Pan's Labyrinth."
Once Brent leaves, the movie really hits its stride, with Darabont turning a scene featuring a bunch of people pulling on a rope into one of the most exciting and suspenseful scenes of the year. By the time the giant bugs start to swarm, I was absolutely hooked and all remaining doubt had faded away.
Darabont does a commedable job of fitting bits of exposition and backstory from the novel in the dialogue without it feeling too forced or awkward. And while we lose a lot of Drayton's characterization with the lack of a voiceover (a wise choice for a horror movie), Jane does some of his best work, capturing through subtext and subtlety what King espouses through Drayton's narration in print.
In fact, the performances are pretty all-around fabulous, with Toby Jones' note-perfect Ollie Weeks and Marcia Gay Harden's absolutely despicable Mrs. Carmody being the two stand outs.
This is a movie that had us sweating, screaming, and cheering--a monster movie of the highest order. It incorporates elements of the best in the horror/suspense genre. The tenseness and mistrust of "The Thing," the post-Apocalyptic hopelessness of "Night of the Living Dead," and the "oh my God, what the fuck is that?" scares of the original "Alien." Up until its gut-punch of a conclusion, this is a movie that should please audiences and Stephen King fans alike.
But that ending... Holy fuck. It's going to be very, very polarizing, but it's going to get people talking. It's extremely rare that a film adaptation out-bleaks its source, but Darabont doesn't back-down in eschewing King's original ambiguous close. Will it upset fans? Some. But hopefully they'll accept that ambiguity is rarely cinematically satisfying, and given the choice of the usual tacked-on Hollywood feelgoodery or an ending with balls, they'll take the balls.
Well that's about it. The movie was great, Darabont remains the world's classiest Stephen King adapter, and the Drafthouse and AICN continue to rule for making the event happen. Thanks!
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So what?
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CANNOT WAIT till Nov. 19th - advance screening in Atlanta, and I'm there.
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You thought you'd be clever, didn't ya?
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How can someone be right or wrong when it comes to subjective opinion?
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'I hate it' and 'I love it' are probably accurate, unless one or both is lying.
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http://www.filmspot.com/movie/364642/the-mummy-curse-of-the-dragon/index.html
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As a person? As a filmmaker? I guess we could go to the non-Stephen King-based directorial output: for Darabont, we have The Majestic and two TV movies. For Kubrick, we have Paths of Glory, Dr. Strangelove, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, Full Metal Jacket, Lolita, and a few others. Close call!
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Now that is REALY scary considering that both the book and worse yet the film were HORRIBLE!
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That they always say "I've waited for this movie for a long time and I love the director and actors and blah blah..." then blast the film. Its almost as if....they are a PLANT from another studio!!!!
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i stopped right there.
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I shouldv'e stopped at "best Stephen King adaption since Tge Dark Half", yeah right.
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The Mist vs. The Fog! I don't know, could be kind of a murky premise, one that left a brumey, effluvious film on the eyes, but think of the potential for gloomy, hazey vapor on wispy, nebulous miasma action. Steam could co-star.
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Never mind The Dark Half, I hear that The Mist is even better than The Tommyknockers.
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In the history of Horror literature. Second only to "It"
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I personally like "The Dark Half" quite a bit, but I see it less as a harbinger of quality and more of a demarcation point. It seemed the point where "Stephen King horror adaptation" stopped being enough alone to peak my interest. It's a mile marker, not a monument. As far as Darabont vs Kubrick goes, I did not mean the "remains King's classiest adapter" as a knock against Kubrick. Kubrick > Darabont without a doubt. I think Kubrick's "The Shining" is the best horror movie made from a Stephen King novel or novella. Which is why I mentioned fidelity to the source. You usually get faithful adaptions that are not exciting or scary as movies, or exciting/scary movies that are pretty unfaithful. This movie is both faithful, and scary/exciting. It's actually probably a little too faithful as Darabont should have changed some of the dialogue from the source that felt clumsy and a little to expository on the screen. This is not a movie completely works from the start. The CGI with the tentacles, and the argument with Brent Norton are troublesome. But once Brent Norton leaves the store everything gets better and just keeps getting better until the end.
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Ya know, I can still remember the trailer for "Maximum Overdrive" with cross eyed Steve tellin us he was gonna "Scare the hell out of you"..not so much. All I can say about this new one, is, hopefully, there are robots. Excuse me, GIANT robots.
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you know what I dug the most about 300? how they managed to strip away that cumbersome plot. I mean, who needs it. Plus, all the folks complainin' about how they cast the Persians in a non linear reality with history. See, I would think the 9 foot man and the 70 foot mastadons mighta tipped em off..
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Nov 12, 2007 4:24:09 PM CST
"'Stephen King horror adaptation' stopped being enough alone to
by duanejones
good lord, shouldn't that have been _extreme prejudice_? _christine_? _cujo_? freakin' _creepshow 2_? ok, that doesn't count, but since all you all are talking about how _dark half_ does not PIQUE your interest, i say: get in line. face it: king is one of our great storytellers, which does not mean he's one of our great writers. still, the chilling previews and positive buzz suggest even mr. green shawshank may be able to bring the scary. and we can all surely agree that andre braugher is the greatest actor in the history of the english language? well, he was on _homicide_, wasn't he? that's right. he was. pity he has to make a living tied to 300 feet pof twine here, and being forced to ask jessica alba who/what the silver surfer is...now THAT'S scary.
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...so I guess it was OK.
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I heard the ending was similar..but that David actually goes into a convenience store to buy bullets and Pam walks out of the shower.
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I saw "The Dark Half" when I was 14 and I was raised in a fairly religious household, so rated R movies were still a new indulgence that was easier to get away once my parents divorced and we found a video store that didn't seem to care what the ratings were when renting to minors. Oh, Video Star. You're the reason I got into obscure horror movies in the first place.
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That's all it was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bwa-ha-ha-ha! Sounds just like all the other whiny film school students I went to school with who never amounted to anything.
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No offense to the man but I never regarded him a a major film 'visionary' even though I love "Night of the Living Dead
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And where did you go to school?
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...is that she is a woman. Therefore, her opinions are automatically null and void.
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look at some of the creative choices he has made (in showbiz)... bragging about where you study is stupid
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Nov 12, 2007 6:01:46 PM CST
"This screenwriting isn't like what they're teaching me..."
by mattmanreturns
So it must be a bad movie! Anyone who drops the "I'm majoring in screenwriting" line instantly loses me. Last I checked, most of the great screenwriters never majored in screenwriting.
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Actually, that ending sounds fucking badass.
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How lame is it that idiots like "johnyaztec" can't wait to tell everyone the ending before the movie even starts showing in theaters.
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It sure sounds plausible.
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How in the hell would the military be able to fend off monsters that fast, if most of them are over seas?
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If this happens to flop, will those who proclaim Darabont "the best writer out there" start sulking over his "misunderstood genius"?
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Of a mediocre novel. As far as best ones go, start with The Dead Zone. (The film rather than the idiotic series, needless to say)
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The dialogue Black Dahlia "quotes" is paraphased. The scene she is referring to though is transplanted verbatim from the novella.
No," he said calmly.
"What?" I really did believe I had misheard him. "What did you say?''
"I said no, I'm not going back there. The joke has gone far enough."
"Brent, I swear to you it's no joke."
"Of course it is," he snapped. His eyes ran over Jim, Myron, rested briefly on Ollie Weeks-who held his
glance with calm impassivity-and at last came back to me. "It's what you locals probably call 'a real
belly-buster.' Right, David?"
"Brent ... look-"
"No, you look!" His voice began to rise toward a courtroom shout. It carried very, very well, and
several of the people who were wandering around, edgy and aimless, looked over to see what was going
on. Norton jabbed his finger at me as he spoke. "It's a joke. It's a banana skin and I'm the guy that's
supposed to slip on it. None of you people are exactly crazy about out-of-towners, am I right? You all
pretty much stick together. The way it happened when I hauled you into court to get what was rightfully
mine. You won that one, all right. Why not? Your father was the famous artist, and it's your town. I only
pay my taxes and spend my money here!" -
There's something in the mist!! There someting im the mist!! Thre's sopmethnig in the mst!1 Thew ss ptg mmsat21 trwg sdss o mmm
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http://www.blackmariahfilms.com/kibberfilms.html
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Which of the two is truly scarier? In a Stephen King story ... the Bible toting woman, of course. The question is will the same backlash against liberal bigotry that ruined Redford's, Streep's and Cruise's weekend hurt the Mist, too.
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you're a student.
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Was indeed good. To dumguy,LOL!
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You and I are the same! But, of course, I get paid an obscene amount of money to write for television and you write shitty reviews for AICN and get blasted for your arrogance. So, we're not exactly the same.
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So, are you on strike?
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boggles the mind. Her screeching, gaping maw is about as one-note as it gets. Frances Sternhagen, if she weren't always slapped into the friendly supporting role, would have been a wonderful choice, instead. This role requires a depth that Harden seems to have lost after her Oscar win. Thomas Jane? Oh, my. But Toby Jones is indeed well cast. I heard several "unintentional" laughs at the AICN screening, believe me. (You wouldn't gather that from the love fest printed so far, from that particular viewing.) Regardless, this will probably perform well the first weekend, and easily recoup its painfully visible low-end production budget. Louisiana looks like Louisiana, regardless of incentives, and the opening lake scene looses its punch quickly, when you can see the busy highway bridge in the background. And, honestly, I can't remember the last time I saw a major studio release, in which the camera visibly adjusts for exposure ON SCREEN (during the tracking/hand held take of Drayton & son entering the grocery store). I can't buy the claim that the "run and gun" format adds to the "immediacy" of the atmosphere. The ending was the least of my objections.
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Just so everyone knows, black mariah is not a woman. Also, i was in the screening with him, and this film was truly a piece of shit. His review is spot on. Darabont's a great director when he wants to be (Shawshank, Green Mile) but this film is the by far the worst thing he's ever done. Its an atrocity. As someone stated after the film, you could shit on the street and it would be better than this film. Worse film of the year by far. Its dumb, horribly written, and not really that scary. We were in a very diverse theatre in NY (best city in the US, no question) and had everyone laughing at bad moments. The unintentional comedy scale of this movie is through the roof. Its just bad, get over it. CGI is horrible too, will make you cringe. what is this, 1992? oh, and blackmariah wrote and directed a feature that is currently being considered for sundance and berlin. so, yeah, there it is. sorry yours mom box.
also, though adam sandler came out of nyu, so did martin scorsese, spike lee, marc foster, philip seymour hoffman, half the writing team of The Daily Show, and oliver stone.
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Where are you, my friend? :(
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Nov 13, 2007 2:52:47 AM CST
What's this? Prententious NYU Screenwriting Student doesn't like
by irc-hollywood
Boy, your gonna face some hard times when your ass hits the real world.
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This, from a 'writer'.Anyway, anyone that needs to justify the validity of their review by telling us why they have special expertise in that area just convinces me not to pay them any attention at all.
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Moriarty doesn't harp on about his being a writer and it giving extra weight to his opinion in his reviews, but the fact that he's a writer shows in how well written and articulate they are, and *this* causes me to give them more weight.
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...as far as I'm concerned, the Bible-toting nutcase is scarier every time. Monsters aren't real and we all know it; people with such blind, unwavering faith in something that they can't be reasoned with really exist - again as we all know.
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I don't have a problem with Johnyaztec's post. You can tell me th ending of any film I plan on seeing and I'll see still watch it. Maybe I compartmentalize, either way DOES NOT effect me. I knew the ending to "Planet Terror" before I bought it. I still got sucked into the story. Watched it with glee. The people who complain, need to lighten up. It read 'spoilers'. Don't read it. You're being just as bad as zealots who want to rid the world of porn because they don't like it. Sirs and Misses, I do fancy it. And I do appreciate it. Thank you Johnyaztec. If true, that's a fucked up ending. And one that will screw up the dad for the rest of his life. Oh yeah; Palinode, when you wrote "The Tommyknockers" do you mean the ABC mini-series or the big breasted theme porno of the same name? You would think it would be the blue film, but it had ladies with far too big implants and the dents to prove it.
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i used to live there - i like nyc - but i can live without the perpetually late subway trains - the smell of garbage and urine in places where you shouldnt smell it - the ridiculously high rents - the dogshit all over the sidewalk (in my old neighborhood anyway - wash. heights) - and the very distinct rift between the classes (in spite of its rep - nyc is not the liberal melting pot it pretends to be) so... krisarmyknife - as to your list of nyu allums - big deal - your friend is still a braggart - im a successful artist - i went to sva (in nyc) - but my success has nothing to do with that - i dropped out - if i choose to anonymously review some art on a website im not about to mention where i went to college as some proof of my expertise - he basically said "the screenplay/writing is very bad - and i should know because i study screen writing an nyu"
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"at"
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He states in his review...
""I promise! There is an alien tentacle in the back! Don't believe me? Go look!" ... "No. I won't take the four foot walk to go and look. You're trying to trick me because of that lawsuit you won a few years back!" What? Are you serious?"
Duuuh...yeah, guy...have you READ King at all?
Thats EXACTLY how the story is...its meant to be in an almost 'comic book' style...Jesus Christ, if you don't KNOW the source, don't a damn faithful adaption (save for that ending...;)
I wouldn't trust you to tell me shit....(cant stop laughing...at...inept...perspective...)
Guys, go see this movie...its going to ROCK!
K
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...Over here!...;)
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I reread the original King novella recently, and it's laughable. The story is just badly written. Darabont has made his name by adapting semi-decent King works faithfully, and the first, negative review shows that faithfulness is his only real talent, since he seems to have preserved, faithfully, every shitty, laughable moment of the short novel. Not everything King wrote was gold, kids, and this one was particularly NOT gold. And it's been faithfully adapted. What a shame.
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Nov 13, 2007 8:52:47 AM CST
When fidelity to the source material is taken into account, it i
by filmcoyote
That's a good thing? It - a quality film ruined by the ending that stuck with the book. The Shining an amazing film that threw out King's book and went it's own way. Result King hated Shining and praised the hideous TV movie version with Rebecca De Mornay. If Dark Half - a steaming pile - is indicative of the next closest film in terms of faithfullness of adapation then mark me down for staying well clear of The Mist. Shame cause i was looking forward to it and i liked the first trailer, but i guess reviewer one will more accurately represent my feelings.
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Listen to NoDiggity. The first reviewer might not know the source material but that doesn't make a faithful adaptation a good film. The book's shit and if Darabont's gone faithful the film will suck too. It's a real shame but them's the breaks!
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Nov 13, 2007 9:22:49 AM CST
"When Fidelity to the Source Material is Taken into Account"
by nodiggity
Ha! "When fidelity to the source material is taken into account, this it the best Stephen King adaption ever". I didn't notice that in the second review. That's the problem. If the director is incapable of seeing flaws in the original story, and correcting them, what happens is a train wreck. Because, when reading, you can mentally gloss over stupidity, but once it's fully, visually solidified, there's no escaping the stupidity.
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A screenwriting major? A waste of time. I understand film school, the practical arts of movie making....but writing is something you just cant teach. Either you have good ideas or you are full of shit. This guy is clearly full of wet, drippy, pretentious, east coast shit.
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Greaaat, you're in film school. This OBVIOUSLY gives you great insight into a good script that no one else has. /Sarcasm
Seriously though...being in film school is NOT a qualification, as much as you'd like to believe. I was a television writer once - no one likes pretentiousness.
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C'mon Zack Snyder, gimme some sugar. Oh and I don't mean remake the shit-fest that was the Schwartzenegger movie I'm talking the original Richard Bachman novelette.
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I actually wrote "When fidelity to the source material is taken into account, it is probably the most successful Stephen King horror adaptation ever." Key words being "probably," "successful," and "horror." Of the movies that are both faithful and scary, I can't think of one that strikes a better balance between being satisfying cinematic experience while still being faithful and the voice and characteristics that make them stand out in print. As I've mentioned also, I do wish he would have diverged some in the beginning, but he definitely makes up for it and overall does make some solid choices that weren't in the novella. (And I'm not just talking about the ending).
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... They're almost as bad as those cursed scientists!
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thanks for responding!
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Now this novel would make a great movie,lord the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was so terrible. But would U.S. moviegoers want a movie with the book's plane crash ending?
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Spoiler warning, assclown!
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You're a bunch of small town, unambitious, bitter motherfuckers who have amounted to nothing in your lives. Disagreeing with one person who goes to NYU doesn't mean you have to hate on the entire school. Yea, we can come off as a pretentious at times, but we have the right to. NYU is one of the 3 top films schools in the country and has had the most applicants in history (in 2006 at least). Our alum include Spike Lee, Oliver Stone, Martin Scorsese, M. Night Shyamalan, Ang Lee, and many other great filmmakers/producers. Not to mention the fact that its located in one of the greatest cities in the world. With that said, we are not all pretentious dickheads, and we are not all disillusioned (like most of you make us out to be) either. You fools know nothing about the film industry. Bc of people like Tarantino and Kevin Smith (who sucks, btw) made it big, all of you think watching a bunch of movies is all you need to become good filmmaker. Nothing could be farther from the truth. You have to learn about the craft. Filmmaking is not some joke that doesn't require an education. Of course, connections play a huge role in making it big, but a top level education goes a long way. Please, people, don't pretend to know something about the film industry when in reality, you don' t know shit. And don't hate on NYU bc you: A. Are too poor to afford it; B. Got rejected; C. Never applied bc you didn't think you'd get into (you probably wouldn't have). D. Are a fucking fat fuckhole who sits at home all day with nothing better to do with your life.
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What the fuck is a Shakeys
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LOL. What's up dawg? BlackMariah, for one, seems like a complete retard who will end up sacking groceries for the rest of her life due to her lack of perception.
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Just saw Carrie for the first time in quite a while and Im sorry but the First is still the Best. If the Shining is number 2, then apparently the more loosely based the movie is on the source material, the better it is. At least this applies to his horror stories.
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Wow, you're a hypocrite. For calling us bitter, you sure appear to have a large metal spike up your ass. Not only that, but you just unknowingly further corroborated the point that the others made about people from NYU being pretentious. That was the most self-deluded, self-absorbed and ignorant post I've seen in talkback in a long time. Because you go to NYU, that makes the rest of us "small town, unambitious, bitter motherfuckers"? Furthermore, you ridicule people who can't afford a school like NYU? Apparently you have forgotten that the majority of great filmmakers and writers in the film industry started out as dirt poor or middle class. Many aspiring writers/filmmakers fall flat on their faces, and you will probably be one of them, BECAUSE they were born into a wealthy family and have no CLUE what the real world is like because they've been pampered their whole lives, and thus their narrow-mindedness and lack of real-life experience is reflected in their work and nobody will hire them because of their poor, tunnel vision writing. Grow up. The world doesn't revolve around YOU or NYU. Get over yourself you arrogant prick. You will never amount to shit with an attitude like that.
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'The book's shit and if Darabont's gone faithful the film will suck too.'
So you (for GOD only knows what reason) hated my all time favorite story?
Your opinion is thereby rendered as meaningless as something stuck to the bottom of my shoe...no wait, the shoe item might annoy or affect me in some way, whereas your lame opinion means ZERO.
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...I almost didnt find this thread, drove for days and days thru this weird ass misty shit...figured all was lost, shot my kid to 'save' him...NOW you turn up! man, sure wish I hadn't done that now...;)
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thanks for proving all the "haters" right - you said "Yea, we can come off as pretentious at times, but we have the right to..." - why is that? - for every single shining success that comes out of nyu there are dozens if not hundreds of pretentious self-important elitist dooshbags that just make the grade then go onto to something else and are never heard of - "mommy daddy i want to make movies, can i go to nyu" - i used to know some of you guys - well to do - no jobs - just wack off and go to class - hang out in wash sq park all day or hang out in droves on bway trying to get noticed - like a breathing gap ad - some people arent so lucky - you can learn just as much about film making by going to any decent community college in any state - any film school is only as good as its teachers and equipment - the burden of becoming a "film maker" lies with the student - not the school he/she is paying in order to plunder their resources - no one here is bashing nyu so much as we are annoyed by the attitude taken that "because i go to nyu, im an authority" - go blow yourself
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'I reread the original King novella recently, and it's laughable. The story is just badly written.'
Dont you mean someone READ it TO YOU?
I refuse to believe you can read, man.
The story is PERFECT...'BADLY WRITTEN'? Yeah, thats why its regarded as Kings most loved tale by many...Are you sure you arent refering to your own idiotic posts? -
'C'mon Zack Snyder, gimme some sugar. Oh and I don't mean remake the shit-fest that was the Schwartzenegger movie I'm talking the original Richard Bachman novelette'
Wouldnt the Bachman Book make a KICK ASS film, if they did it right? I still find the fact that they even used the title 'The Running Man' on that Arnold flick an absolute slap in the face to fans of the original story...tho the movie WAS fun on its own, it bore almost as little resembelance to its source material as 'The Lawnmower man' did...;)
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god, who to hate more: sad bitter dickheads who are resentful that someone is going to college and doing something creative; or naive young douches without the social whereabouts to let their education come through their ideas rather than waiving a "I go to a big college, please beat the crap out of me" flag over their head? and JonfromNOplains, you precious little thing! what a specimen you are. you're the reason people enjoy that scene in Good Will Hunting when Matt Damon schools that dude with the pony tail. You're a caricature of a smug piece of waste who unwittingly displays his insecurities and ignorance with every other word. You think Tarantino and Kevin Smith popularized the DIY aesthetic? Wow. Glad you're getting that education, buddy. think you need to go to school to learn how to craft a film or a script? tell that to Kubrick brother. a list of great directors who didn't attend film school would be too long to type out and that list would be dwarfed by great writers and painters who had minimal formal education. do some research. pretentiousness is fine by me, often it's amusing, but at least know what you're talking about. ps this movie looks like dogcrap.
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'ps this movie looks like dogcrap.'
Man, I was SO on your side with everything else you had to say...then you had to negate it all with THAT moronic comment...too bad.
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no one is resentful anyone is going to college - im resentful that someone thinks having nyu on a resume makes one a genius - read all the posts - idiot - you are agreeing with everyone else judging by your tirade against "nyu" guy - does that make you a "sad bitter dickhead who is resentful that someone is going to college and doing something creative" - your words
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... I can't believe you shot your kid. So sad. Oh well, you saved him from being eaten alive by monsters at least!!! :)
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...You...did GET that the monsters WOULNT have eaten my kid...so it was ALL FOR NOTHING, right?
See, thats 'clever irony in an un-needed, meanspirited vein'...COOOOL, right?
:)
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There's a glut of apocalyptic survival horror. After the DotD remake and 28 Days/Weeks Later etc., it's difficult to see how this one will set itself apart.
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'There's a glut of apocalyptic survival horror. After the DotD remake and 28 Days/Weeks Later etc., it's difficult to see how this one will set itself apart.'
You have a point...shame really, since 'The Mist' was written AGES before any of those screenplays, I'll betcha... -
'people in this world that actually firmly believe King's words when he claims Stanley Kubrick's adaptation of The Shining is a bad movie....'
Naaaw...I wouldn't say a 'bad movie'...its a great suspense/horror show (save for the casting...but the DIRECTION is top notch!) ...its just a mediocre ADAPTION...;)
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