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24 Postponed

I am – Hercules!! Damn it!! The Writers Guild turns out to be sufficiently badass to sideline even Jack Bauer. Fox has decided it doesn’t want to just give fans only half a day in Bauer’s life, so the thriller’s 7th season has been yanked from January – with no plans to return it until the strike is settled. Read all of TVWeek’s story on the matter here.

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  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Suck it 24

    by conniebrean1

    The WGA will rise again!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Up next..Lost...

    by Mixiboi

    ...I guess We should all get ready for Big Brother: Celebrity Edition right now...

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Run 'em, and call it '12'

    by Pound Sand

    A golden opportunity wasted. Half the episodes, half the moles, half the Jack sack.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:25 p.m. CST

    I'll miss that part where Jack tortures someone...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Meh, not really.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:26 p.m. CST


    by Shakes

    This is really starting to shake things up. When I first heard about the strike I figured it would just mean a temporary break in production across the board with producers and actors plowing through the remaining scripts. but the way things seem to be going this is going to have heavy reprecussions throughout the rest of the season. Not only that, but think about all the shows that are on the borderline this season. networks will probably find it more profitable to scrap them and start from scratch next season rather than try to reignite attention for marginally producing shows. And to think, for the past 6 months the major strike we were hearing about was the potential actors strike.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Oh Dear God

    by JohnnyS2

    Goddamnit, this sucks!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST


    by Pound Sand

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:30 p.m. CST

    It's all connected, Shakes

    by Mixiboi

    See everyone spectulated that the writers were going to wait till the Screen Actors Guild went on strike too next summer and they would work without a contract till then so they would have a better front against the studios. IT wasn't till last month did the writers going on strike at Halloween became loud. But it looks like they didn't have to wait till summer 08 because the actors already have the writers back because they know that they are next in line for the payout.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:34 p.m. CST

    I Cant live without my TV!!!!

    by Bong


  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:36 p.m. CST

    As Jack Bauer would say...

    by kyle051554


  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:42 p.m. CST

    take as much time as you need, guys:

    by newc0253

    i'm with the writers on the whole strike thing and god knows the writers on 24 need help.<p> seriously, if a few more months spent figuring out mentally how to return the show to its former glory is what it takes, then so be it.<p> it will be shit for the continuity folk, though. imagine having to make a 6 month break seem like 1 second.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:42 p.m. CST

    TESF, we differed last year vis a vis 24/Heroes..

    by Pennsy

    But I share yer pain. It's just staggering how this tv season is going down the shitter on the installment plan. By the hour, just about every last fabric of this season is being ripped apart.<p> And for those of you who like sequels, we get to DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN NEXT SUMMER WITH THE SAG CONTRACT.<p> This is like the NHL lockout all over again. I genuinely fear for the future of *all* scripted TV because of this strike. A strike everybody claims they didn't want and still allowed to happen. Frak this shit.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:44 p.m. CST

    FAIR IS FAIR - go writers

    by WWBD

    Bauer Power will return when the time is right.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:44 p.m. CST

    They could splice in some old X-Files footage...

    by tonagan

    Every ten minutes or so, have Keifer badly dub the line "I wonder what agents Mulder and Scully are up to?", then cut to an old "mythology" episode. They could stretch it out to 24 episodes that way.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST

    This show has writers?

    by jimmy_009

    I thought they just rearranged events from the previous season. There's a mole at CTU! The president is in on it!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Or have Jack thrown in jail...

    by tonagan

    Then just put a camera in Keifer Sutherland's cell as he does his jail time for that DUI or whatever... no writers necessary.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:49 p.m. CST

    this is sorta good

    by Bouncy X

    im not a 24 fan but i am a Lost fan and if this happens to them too then much as it sucks waiting, i rather know a full season is coming and wait for it then to have the show return as schedualed only to be cut short or pulled in the middle.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:52 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Where have you been??? TalkBack needs you now more than ever, buddy!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:53 p.m. CST

    This is not 1988, WGA...

    by Pennsy

    when TV was just about the only option; there was no internet, no broadband, no on-demand, no DVD's, no ITunes. You kick the viewers in the nuts and they might not wait around for seconds.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 8:57 p.m. CST

    This is the best thing that could have happened.

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    What are you guys bitching about? Just once Writers, please, write out an entire season beforehand, even just an OUTLINE for fucks sake.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:02 p.m. CST


    by coachaaron

    this gives the 24 peeps a bit more time to think things out, so hopefully the season won't seem so random. heck, maybe kiefer can go ahead and do his DUI jail time? moron.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Considering how bad

    by Shivv

    the writing on this show has been, maybe Fox could use 24 as a pilot program for using non-WGA writers. Can't get any worse, right? <p>As for Lost, I think 14 of 16 are already written, which means we should see it assuming the producers and actors in Hawaii feel like fulfilling their contractual obligations (unlike the ones in LA). <p>As for this season's new shows, I'll only really miss Journeyman, Life, and Reaper. I hope those can survive the strike.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Oh, and

    by Shivv

    does this mean we'll get our 8 episodes of Jericho sooner? Because that would be awesome, even though I get the feeling it will be a bastardized version of what we saw last year.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Right Now Somewhere In West Hollywood

    by Turd Furgeson

    Keifer Southerland is downing a bottle of bourbon, pulling 2 rails and shaking the nerves out... Why you ask? Because he has 6 random writers locked and tied up in the room behind his left shoulder... And as soon as Keifer can focus, he's gonna find his Jack Sack and those writers are fucked!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Maybe it's time for the "I" Word...

    by Pennsy

    As in injunction, served extra crispy by a court to stop the strike and force arbitration.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Scare tactics from Fox

    by AlwaysThere

    Interesting time were in. I wonder if ABC will be next since they've got a lot to lose also.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:10 p.m. CST

    I'm not surprised

    by DarthFloyd

    Welcome to the ninth circle of Hell - nothing but reality TV on until these strikes wrap.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:15 p.m. CST

    by Mazzle

    The worst part is that the majority of the American tv watchers are idiots and will switch over to whatever reality tv drivel the networks decide to put on instead. They'll see that they can get reasonable ratings at a fraction of the cost, and it will extend both the strike and the proliferation of shitty reality tv further.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:32 p.m. CST

    They should hire some writers from India.

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    The musical dance-off between Tony and Jack at 8am will be a season highlight.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:40 p.m. CST

    First casualty of the strike.

    by Yeti

    Second will be anyone who watches Fox on a regular basis. What reality show dreck they'll unleash is anyones guess and to think I thought they hit rock bottom with "Paradise Hotel"...

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:42 p.m. CST

    The Ender Smites Foes scares me

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    He really does.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Well said, Ender Smites Foes. Well said.

    by slone13

    My sentiments EXACTLY.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    not that anyone will really care but

    by bauer316

    Fuck the major cheap companies not willing to pay,DOUBLE FUCK the writers for being Snivling Little Twunts,actually just fuck unions for giving them this much power.I dont ask for much in my grinding existence of a life but this is the last straw.Once CBS cancels the Unit,im goin 2 be done with tv.FUCK those xmen wannabee Heroes,balllickers,FUCK Lost,nobody wants to find your candyasses anyway,TRIPLE FUCK Reality TV,i dont know if it was on here or another board where someone said the majority of Am.Tv watchers r so dumb they'll watch whatever reality drivel they put on which will only make this last longer.all i ask for is 24 and The closing,FUCK

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:54 p.m. CST

    @Bauer316 . . .

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    AMEN BROTHER. The Unit and 24. That's what I need. Add in Heroes, Smallville, Stargate Atlantis and Lost and I'm a happy boy.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:55 p.m. CST


    by TallBoy66


  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:56 p.m. CST


    by TallBoy66

    Point remains. DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT!!!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 9:59 p.m. CST

    well time to delete all the timers on pvr

    by jarodvhale

    cause it looks like I will be recording a bunch of reruns or shitty reality tv for the next six months....

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Damn. Guess I'm going to go to the gym...

    by Christopher3

    Instead of sitting my lazy ass down in front of the TV. What is America coming to?

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:03 p.m. CST


    by SkidMarkedUndies


  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Just replay Season ONE and bring in new viewers

    by George Newman

    I've been hesitant to jump on the Bauer train cuz I didnt watch any of seasons 2,3 and 4. I watched the beginning of 5 but fell off after the first 5 or 6 hours.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    What the heck!?!?

    by SkidMarkedUndies


  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Whatever... most of the the "writing" being done

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    has been crappy anyway. Maybe what the industry NEEDS are some good scabs to cover-up Hollywood's fetid creativity wounds.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Who cares! A Wish for Wings that Work is on DVD!

    by CatVutt

    Opus and Bill baby! <p> (ahem) Sorry. I'm just excited. Sucks about 24, but I sort of agree...I'd rather see it all consecutively anyway.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Here's an IGN interview with Ron Moore...

    by Pennsy

    who was on the picket line today (or yesterday):

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Does this mean

    by tme2nsb

    I get to bone Mary Lynn Rasjkub?

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:39 p.m. CST

    SoulPatch Tony is PISSED!

    by CrazyJoeDavola

    Not really. Go writers! Fuck the studio suits!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:43 p.m. CST

    FUCK THAT!!!

    by nalapou

    This show was coming back on my birthday!! FUCK YOU FOX AND FUCK YOU WRITERS GUILD!!! stupid FUCKERS!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:56 p.m. CST

    The Cougar Has Left The Building....With a MOLE!

    by uss cygnus

    No big loss.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST


    by SquirrelPhister

    ....i don't care?

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST

    wait, so they were really going to start

    by chiahead

    in january? wasn't this season the one that false started like twice? and isn't keiffer in jail or something?

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by slder78

    as logical as that sounds, the WGA has issued an order that there be NO WRITING in any form whatsoever. No outlines, treatments, rough drafts. The slogan they're going with is "Pencils down,means pencils down." It was reported on Variety.

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 11:08 p.m. CST

    The Writers' Strike - Sponsored by Phonics!

    by RetroActive

    At least all of their signs will be proof read and probably use appropriate grammar. Dummies. I sure hope they negotiate 8 cents per a DVD sale instead of 4 cents. Hallelujah!

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Why oh why...

    by DarthFloyd

    Couldn't this have happend during baseball season? Instead of watching crappy "Reality" television, I could watch lousy starting pitching, an over-used bullpen, and anemic hitting (live in Seattle).

  • Nov. 7, 2007, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Fox Made The Right Call And...

    by James Westfall

    The writers can go straight to Hell.

  • Oh wait ...

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Ron Moore & Galactica

    by jbs0209

    While I agree with the WGA, ... <p> Fuck Ron Moore! There are writers on BSG? Monkeys with type writers could do better. <p>I used to really love that show, but now I have no intention of watching it until I can get it on DVD free from the library<p> Christ, Season 7 of Buffy made more sense and they kept altering course in order as the spin-off situation changed.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Big fucking deal

    by Silverhour

    Never did watch 24. If you're so heart broken over it turn off the TV. Go read a book, take the dog for a walk, play ball with your kids. And when the strike is over, leave the TV off. Keep reading, walking and playing instead. Let TV die.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:33 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    15 fashion designers compete to win the chance of a lifeime. Try it, you'll like it better than Jack Bauer.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:38 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    I feel you. I'd get just as mad if they cancelled Dancing With The stars mid-season. TV bonds with our souls, and it hurts when it lets go. Sniff

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Wait a minute...

    by TinkerTIW

    You mean they don't make it up as they go along? Are you sure? Did you see last season?

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:56 a.m. CST

    I love 24 and I think this is great news

    by Mullah Omar

    Everything I heard about this season indicated that the writers had NO FREAKING IDEA where they were going with the plot, and that they were scrapping plan after plan because it wasn't working out. I think a hiatus will give them a chance to walk away for a while, come back fresh, and hopefully get the ship back on course. Do it right or don't do it at all.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:05 a.m. CST

    You know, this might not be a completely awful thing....

    by Crimson King

    This'll give the writers more time to make sure they don't flatline the series. They came dangerously close last season, and the series is in need of some serious new life. Hopefully this ends up benefitting the show somehow, 'cause I love 24 and I'd hate to see Jack go down like a chump.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:08 a.m. CST


    by Crimson King

    Interesting statement from a guy who not only posts on Talkbacks here at AICN, but also takes the time to post one under a TV-related article....<br> <br> And by the way, I read plenty, sir. I'll admit I'm not the absolute most voracious reader you've ever met, but I'm always in the middle of a book and I try to read as much as I can every day. And I love my movies and TV shows as well, thank you very much.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:09 a.m. CST

    24: The Next 12 Hours [Writerless edition].

    by bobbyjoe

    [Previously on "24:" On the previous 12 hours of this season's 24, we've seen Jack and Tony engage in a deadly battle of wills, with countless spectacular twists and action sequences. Episode 12 ends with Jack suddenly deciding, for no apparent reason, to go visit Audrey.] Episode 13, Scene One: Close-up on Audrey, drooling slightly. No dialogue. Episode 13, Scene Two: Shot of Jack, once again in Audrey's backyard, straing out to sea. No dialogue. Episode 13, Scene Eight: Audrey is still drooling, slightly. No dialogue. Episode 13, Scene Nine: a ten minute long, uninterrupted close-up of Jack staring out to sea, followed by a fifteen minute long close-up of Audrey, staring vacantly into space. No dialogue. Episode 13, Scene Twelve: the 24 countdown clock comes on screen as though the episode is at an end, but this time the clock remains on screen for twenty minutes, counting off minutes and seconds until the episode is finally over. No dialogue. [Roll Previews (Recorded voice says: "Next on "24:") Previews consist of a long, single shot of Audrey's forehead. Then another shot of Jack staring out to sea. No dialogue.] Roll credits.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I'm having *way* too much fun

    by buffywrestling

    Steve walks warily down the street, with the brim pulled way down low. Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet, machine guns ready to go. Are you ready, are you ready for this? Are you hanging on the edge of your seat? <p> Another one bites the dust ! <p> How do you think I'm going to get along, without you, when you're gone? You took me for everything that I had, and kicked me out on my own. Are you happy, are you satisfied? How long can you stand the heat? <p> Another one bites the dust! <p> There are plenty of ways you can hurt a man and bring him to the ground. You can beat him, you can cheat him; you can treat him bad and leave him when he's down. But I'm ready, yes I'm ready for you, I'm standing on my own two feet. <p> Another one bites the dust! !

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Oooh, feel the scorn of "Queefer Bukkake"!!

    by TallBoy66

    You feel that, 24? That's the sting of Queefer Bukkake dismissing you and calling you shit! Feel it, for it came from the keyboard Queefer Bukkake! THE Queefer Bukkake! Now, if that's a damn, I don't know what is! Queefer Bukkake!

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:53 a.m. CST

    ahh unions with BALLS! if only we had em

    by Maniaq

    in this country! <br> <br> all you guys who are pissing all over the writers for striking - basically you're saying they should work for free, huh? <br> <br> That there should be no such occupation as "writer" because you can't make a living from something you don't get paid to do? <br> <br> Is that the logic of your argument? <br> <br> Maybe you haven't quite thought this one through, eh?

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Fuck 24

    by imantel

    I hate that piece of shit show.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Misconceptions about writers

    by Geoduck42

    1. Unless a TV writer is also producer of a show, they are very likely not rich. Tina Fey and Joss Whedon have money. Writer X churning out scripts for General Hospital doesn't. 2. Most TV writers have very little say about the final product that get slapped on the screen. It's like blaming the lumberjacks because your wooden furniture sucks.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 2:35 a.m. CST

    What do the writers want?

    by CondomWrapper

    I'm just one of those normal people who doesn't have a dream job that I can strike over. What's the deal here? I know the writers are the most dicked over people in Hollywood so I can see why they're striking, but damn you know how many people would kill for a job like that? Well if everyone else in Hollywood receives an obscene amount of money in Hollywood the writers who are vitally important should be obscenely overpaid as well. But Christ it's not like you fuckers are working in a goddamn mine in West Virginia. ain't suffering.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 2:47 a.m. CST

    What writers want...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Basically, what they want is a re-negotiation in regards to the residuals they earn from DVDs and foreign distribution rights. Secondly, they want residual rights clearly defined when it comes to new media, like the Internet. Third, they want residual payment based on gross, not net. Now if you think that the writers are being unreasonable, consider the fact that the Screen Actors' Guild has more favorable deals in place for these three points for its members -- and SAG may strike next summer for a better deal. Fact is, writers are not treated well in Hollywood, and never have been. They may get quite a bit of money up front for their work, but not much anything else beyond that. An actor who shows up speaking only one line in a TV series gets more residuals than the writer who wrote the episode, believe it or not. Oh, and as for scabbing -- the talent agencies that represent the writers have an agreement not to work with the studios who don't use union talent. So the studios cannot simply and easily use scabs. Then there's the fact that many producers are also WGA members.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Bullshit strike

    by Evil Hobbit

    They make more then enough money already. Fuckers.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Kieffer goin' to jail anyway.

    by Batutta

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Simple idea...

    by UltimaRex

    Grab a couple of camcorders (really you'll need more than one), grab some buddies and make your own show. With all the good shows going south we'll at least have the time. Sure, it probably won't be professional but it'll be a laugh... And better than bitching...

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Re:What do the writers want? by CondomWrapper

    by Alen Smithee

    Condom - If that is your real name, It's very simple. During the last strike in the 80s, then union leaders lacked the foresight to see where the video market was going and gave up large residuals from the sale of then video tapes. Remember this was at a time when there were only three networks, and at most 57 cable channels with roughly 26% market saturation. Re-runs were the sole domain of local markets and the big three, and no one could ever in there right mine think anyone would want to buy the complete run of Different Strokes on video tape. The members of the WGA do not wish to repeat that mistake. The union leaders even took a significant increase new video sales "off the table" as a gesture of compromise. We would not budge on internet downloads, because that is were all entertainment is eventually going - NOT EXCLUSIVELY, but it is another outlet. And if the studios are receiving advertising dollars from the rebroadcast and distribution of work generated by the creators of said work, it is only fair and just that those creators be compensated. Without the writers, there would be no show/movie. "It all begins on the page..." And the majority of writers are not David E. Kelley, or Joss Wedon. Yes we get paid considerably more for one script than most people make in one month, but we are not working every day of the week. Most of us are not staff writers on a hit show. We are freelancers with families - working from jobs to job, and trying to stretch a as many dollars as we can until the next job comes along, and the time in between those jobs can be quite lengthy. And when you're trying to put food on a table, keep a roof over yours and your family's head, and pay for all of life's necessities, like health, home and car insurance, every little bit help. All you out there who would task us for trying to provide a better and fair living for ourselves and our families, by saying that we are simply looking to buy another house in the south of France, proceed from a false and ill-informed assumption. I know I'm asking a lot from the type of people who usually post on this site, but try to educate yourself a little on the issues before you express an opinion on them. And have the BALLS to post your real name when you outwardly attack those you don't know instead of hiding behind a shield of anonymity like a fucking pussy. I'm talking to you: "The Ender Smites Foes" -Kevin Rubio

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5:12 a.m. CST

    What they want

    by The+Hitman

    is a piece of the DVD sales and internet action. I'm kind of looking forward to this. I can't remember the last time I read a good book. BTW: I don't begrudge the writers, they're just trying to get ahead of the media distribution via the 'net, and get PAID on all those dvd sales the networks have been pocketing.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST


    by JackSack

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5:41 a.m. CST

    The love for the coprorations and the hate for the wirters here

    by Harold The Great

    Most talkbackers truly live in their wierd bizarro universe. 1. They're doing a job - writing. 2. They decide they're not treated fairly - they all stop working, so the can work on better terms in the future. 3. If the demand for their work is high enough, the studios will give them the better terms. End of story. In grown up world people fight to better their lives. What the fuck is so outrageous about that? Maybe if you fought for something in your miserable lives, you wouldn't have to go online and bitch about people who the job you want to do - and god knows, probably could do, if you put down your action figures, stop dreaming and just get the fucking thing done.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Jack Bauer shoots every striking writer in the kneecaps!

    by MrMysteryGuest

    "Give me more time, dammit!"

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Jack Bauer shoots every striking writer in the kneecaps!

    by MrMysteryGuest

    "Give me more time, dammit!"

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5:48 a.m. CST

    Double post! Pay me or I go on strike!

    by MrMysteryGuest


  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Or I'll just strike something or somebody!

    by MrMysteryGuest


  • Nov. 8, 2007, 6:23 a.m. CST

    this should have been done for last season...

    by just pillow talk

    not this one! Not with soul patch coming back....DAMMIT!

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Is this Bad?

    by NudeandAroused

    Really is it bad? You must admit that 24 lost a great deal of quality last year. Also, it gives people the chance to see some other programs, or, perhaps even reading a book.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Is that true?

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 7:25 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Do something constructive@!

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 7:41 a.m. CST


    by DrManhattansUnit

    I'd have thought the 24 writers would be right-wing strikebreakers... Good luck to the WGA.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Come again?

    by MurderMostFowl

    There are writers on 24? Whodathunkit. ( I admit I watched seasons 1-3, but bailed when everyones favorite Chloe caused my eyes, ears and brain to melt )

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 8:32 a.m. CST

    It's a goddamned shame Walmart workers can't do this

    by Rickey Henderson

    And FYI, it's not the individual producers who are against the writer's getting a fair contract, but the corporations running the studios who are evil greedy fuckers. Writers should absolutely be getting a part of any distribution profits (be they DVDs or any other means of digital media dissemination).

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Harold The Great

    by The Funketeer

    There's no love for corporations here. These people love only themselves. They don't really care how much writers or stars make. They're upset because now they can't watch their stories on TV and might actually have to get off the couch and do something. I'll miss 24 too, but if the people creating it can get a better deal, more power to 'em. I'll wait patiently until they get back to work and read a book or two in the meantime.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Quick, someone put the Mohammad ball back in the tank!

    by Norm

    Oh wait, that was Family Guy. With all the meaningless side plots in 24, I thought it was written by Manatees too. Chloe, Aunt, Gary Coleman. There's your side plot................"CTU this is Jack, patch me through to Chloe. Sorry Jack she's not here. Her aunt won a date with Gary Coleman, and Chloe had to help her pick out a dress. She should be back in 10 minutes."

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9 a.m. CST

    The WAGs in Hollywood have gone on strike?

    by rosasaks

    Fucking Victoria Beckham.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Greedy SOB's

    by Python

    Outsource their jobs to India like they've done with mine. Then we'll see if they still have the nerve to pout.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Pound Sand: Run 'Em and Call It '12'


    Brilliant. Fooking brilliant.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Dammit, we're running out of time!!!

    by rockgolf

    Oh, scratch that.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:15 a.m. CST

    I Hate Unions


    I really do. Thank them for my 9-5 job? Not likely. Thank them for the extra $5k I have to pay for my car is more like it. That being said . . . the writers have a point, and are entitle to residuals for their work. If the studios had been smart, they would have cut in the creative talent for new media and DVD and other market sales on their own, as an incentive to talent and to avoid this stupid-ass strike.<br><br>Frankly, I think the strike is interesting. I hope it lasts. It'll be interested to see what sort of stuff bubbles up in the vacuum. I'm hoping for a 3d-ified version of Raiders of the Lost Ark and Back to the Future. 3D-ifying doesn't take writers, and they'd get my 8 bucks for that. More podcasty type stuff making it's way onto television. Lots of reruns of the shows I never saw the first time around. Sounds like a blast!

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Soul Patch

    by Chevron_Engaged

    Soul Patch Zombie Tony stays dead a little longer. Bummer, after an awful season, the preview for this next season looked awsome. But then again, I thought the same thing abotu last season. But I guess it will be a while before I see it. Now, If Lost gets pulled, I will go jihad on some one. Serial.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:23 a.m. CST

    If I Was In the Position to Demand Residuals


    I'd do it in a heartbeat. When I have been in the position to demand more money, I do. Frankly, I think you are kind of moron if you don't. Oh, you could be making more, but why bother? Let the boss keep it all. Part of the marketplace in action is demanding a bigger piece of the action, if you have leverage. The writers have leverage, and they'd be off their nut not to use it to demand more money, especially based on the longevity of their work in the marketplace, no matter how much money they were making already. Even if all writers were rich, it's not like the studios are paupers: if they were entitled to, and could negotiate for more, they'd be crazy not to do it.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:26 a.m. CST

    make 24 a choose your own adventure!

    by Bullet_time_Facehugger

    People could call in and recommend where the storyline goes next! Just imagine how many times the mountain lion will show up now...

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Walmart Workers Could Do It, Too


    If a majority of them wanted to start paying mandatory dues to a politically activist union that wanted to use their money to fund things they are totally opposed to and would break their kneecaps if they voted for the wrong folks in the union leadership. As it happens, their are hundreds of thousands of retail jobs controlled by thousands of companies, so anyone who doesn't like working for Wally World can cross the street and apply at Tarjet or Starbucks Galactica or the Jitney Jungle. Or improve their skillset and move out of the retail biz to something they'd enjoy more.<br><br>Collective bargaining actually makes a lot more sense for "prestige" jobs in a healthy economy (like ours, believe it or not), because corporations usually use the prestige of the position ("You're working at ILM! You're doing the next Star Wars movie!") to screw 'em, and attract new suckers should the current gaggle get to uppity. Collective bargaining gives folks in prestige job lines a lot more leverage than they'd have otherwise. "Can you believe those people wanting to get paid to writer for 24? This is Jack Bauer, damnit. So anyway, when do you want to start your perpetual internship?"

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:39 a.m. CST


    by Pennsy

    OK, sarcasm there, but the camp value of one Victoria Beckham's acting debut (?) will be worth the price of admission by itself.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:46 a.m. CST


    by Err


  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:49 a.m. CST


    by turketron

    And now, we shall see what emerges from the deepest, darkest, most retarded pits of reality TV hell. <p><p>The retarded TV watching masses will lap up all of the inane shows that the networks explosively shit over the airwaves. You think Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, I Love New York, and those Model shows are bad, just wait until these new shitfests are released. The networks will say, durr, why did we bother with scripted television anyway? This is a hundred fold cheaper to make!!! <p><p>THIS IS THE WAY TELEVISION ENDS. <p><p>Next up: Reality Movies. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Um, because that's their job Gabriel, you illiterate jackass

    by Rickey Henderson

    man you're dumb.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:53 a.m. CST

    writers are pussies. this was confirmed in multiple studies.


  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:53 a.m. CST

    re: make 24 a choose your own adventure!

    by turketron

    OMG... the cougar will be shown snarling right before every commercial break. It would be epic. He would also be the mini villain and main Big Bad of the season. Why? Because HE WOULD HAVE A NUCLEAR BOMB IN HIS RIBCAGE!!! And of course, he would be running amuck in Los Angeles.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Every day this site's

    by emeraldboy

    existence is getting harder to fathom. Some talkbackers have lashing the system for years. Now the system is temporarily not making the products that the haters love to use as a punching bag you would have though that the haters would be happy and think well this gives us a reson not to go to the cinema or watch tv. but what are they doing? they are laying into the writers, to paraphrase a defunct website, oh the hypocrisy.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:02 a.m. CST

    "My Dad is Better Than Your Dad"

    by Pennsy

    That's an actual NBC reality show in development; can't for shit remember where I read it (H-Wood Reporter? Variety? )

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST


    by uss cygnus

    All those moles in the WGA caused this strike, DAMMIT!!

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Wow Pennsy

    by digitalcos

    "there was no internet, no broadband, no on-demand, no DVD's, no ITunes."<p>Isn't that pretty much the WGAs point?

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Quick! call Barry Vann Dyke & Kent McCord

    by Blood T Cat

    and consider re-naming it Sanford Arms.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Alen Smithee

    by moondoggy2u

    I don't like unions, and as an objectivist, I'm vehemontly disaproving of such institutions. What's more, I find your claims of union creating a 9-to-5 day, benefits, etc., to be largely fictional and exagerated, but then, grandstanding does fall under the pervue of union leaders.<p>All such disagreements over collectivism aside, there do seem to be legitimate reasons to renegotiate the writers' contracts. I'm quite sure that Hollywood and its infamous accounting schemes have bent more than a few writers over a barrell, and I hope the guild gets at least most of what they are striking for. There does, however, need to be one stipulation: scripted television shows, such as 24, Prison Break, and Desperate Housewives, need to have all their scripts ready FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON and not written on the fly. Then again, this strike is not about quality production, but rather quality RETURNS, isn't it?<p>Finally, "Alen Smithee," I must confess that I'm sick and tired of internet rambos, such as yourself, who threaten others when they disagree with you (a common problem among unions). And when you are attempting to get someone to write their normal name on the internet for all to see, you damn well know you are doing this so that they will be threatened or have their identity tampered with. You are the coward here, not that person hiding behind anonymity. By the way, when next you want someone to post their real name, try not using the fictional guild name "alen smithee" as your ID. It is because of disgusting little leg-breaking bullies like you that I, and many other realistic human beings, remain intolerant, annoyed, and frankly BORED, by unions and their overly egotistical supporters and thuggish bosses.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:13 a.m. CST

    by the way

    by moondoggy2u

    that suject line was supposed to have Node32744's name on it, too, and not just Smithee's disingenuous "name."

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Writers should burn in hell.

    by Python

    Offshore it all.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST

    I Warned you all that Cowell was going into the movie business

    by emeraldboy

    and did anyone listen, no. all the writers are looking for is cash from new media. Arnie tried this when he tried to get the studios to give actors control over the characters on DVD's. This was back in the 1990's. when DVD's were in thier infancy. Arnies point was that if studios wanted to put extra dialoug or make other changes to characters, they would have to get the actors say so first. Arnie failed. but the studio got around this, by adding in Audio commentaries and featurettes with actors talking bout thier roles in the movie. Now of course, on most DVD' film releases under audio commentary under bonus features you can watch the movie and hear the director and actor speak, the same applies to tv boxsets.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:36 a.m. CST

    This Summer....

    by rhcp2sweet

    Million Dollar Baby 2. Starring Simon Cowell, Randy Jackson, and Ryan Seacrest in the Hillary Swank role

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Writers gots to get paid

    by Heckles

    I admire their stance on this issue. That being said, FUCK! There is so much crap on TV, sucks that 24 has to suffer.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST


    by batjac

    I love all the comments on 9-5. Where are those jobs? A 40hr work week- where? Unions- outdated slime machines. Hope the writers and their babies starve. No strike settlement until the writers of Viva Laughlin, Cavemen, and last season's 24 are deported back to France.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 11:04 a.m. CST

    my country was forged on the back of unions

    by emeraldboy

    and the unions are very much part of Irelands History. But lately, unions are seen by a large majority of Irish people as outdated and ancient dinosaurs. If you dont pay your licence fee you go to Jail. RTE the govt backed Public service tv and radio station. want an increase, currently the licence is 159 euro. If they get there way we the Irish will have to pay 320. We get a lot of shows like ugly betty, prison break, 24, friday night lights(though rte dumped that show on 2am in the morning) and Showed entourage at 11.30pm before changing the day and it has since vanished. Recently RTE did a charity show called People in Need. dire is the only word I have to describe that load of crap. They also commissioned a show called The english Class. I have never seen anything as bad as this on irish tv in years, truly dreadful programming. RTe would say that is there attempt at the office. But Ricky Gervaise and Stephen Merchants are geniuses. Philip Campf is a legend in TV circles both in Ireland and the UK. so I am suprised to see his name attached. Cecilia Aherne's Samantha Who got some where in the region of 14 million viewers. What did Rte do. They passed on it saying it was not outstanding. these are the same people who are asking for a raise. RTE's quality has improved since the millenium. They are taking risks. Prosperity is prime example of this. it may not be original to some of you. But for rte this was landmark tv. Prosperity was a 4 part drama set over a day Chronocling the lives of people whose paths interweave. and rte have been making major one of dramas, Stardust and fallout. and of course there is bachelor's walk. that is availble on DVD to buy. It was created by the director of once. I too look at the tv in ireland and want to put my foot through tv. Rte on a friday nignt, is a good example. We too in Ireland are far to familiar with the stand in presenters. most of whom are as bland as wall paper. The star presenters that we have all take off for the summer hols. RTE kind of shuts down for the summer leaving one news reader to do all the bulletins on tv. it sounds hilarious but its true. RTE does have rivals, TV3 and Channel 6, 6 doesnt do the news, sport or weather. Outside tv radio commercial is now owned by Denis obrien. One of Irelands wealthiest men. He bought 98fm and today fm and another radio station for 200 million euro. You can listen to all them over the internet., and news. America should thank its lucky stars that your country does not have the licence fee. Because if it did, you would all be complaining but you would still have to pay for the crap you are giving out about. ITv is a commercial station. its new owner is Rupert Murdoch.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST

    My mom and my sister are going to be pissed.

    by qweruiop

    I don't watch 24, but they do religiously. I wonder how they're going to react now that the entire season is pulled out, one that they've been eagerly looking forward to see ever since the promos started airing.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Remember the strike shortened NBA season?

    by Diagnostic

    That was the last year I enjoyed the NBA. I was really hoping for the same effect on 24 and a couple other shows.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST

    jack bauer should torture everyone until they break the strike.

    by JacksonsPole

    i mean, seriously, they've been talkin' about this strike for ages. why don't the studios work somethin' out?! gotta be better than losin' money...

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Lets Not Forget...

    by Oldnewbie

    There is a directors strike looming next June. Time to stock up on some good books!!

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Life, Bionic Woman, Phenomenon

    by AlwaysThere

    NBC sure knows how to pick em

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Hell, I forgot Journeyman

    by AlwaysThere

    Just like everyone that watches TV.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Alen Smithee signed his name at the end of his post.

    by FookU

    He said he is Kevin Rubio. Am I mistaken in thinking that he is the same guy who wrote/directed the TROOPS Star Wars fan film? If you are that Kevin Rubio kudos to you sir! I am behind the writers on this because they should get paid for internet viewings that are being sponsored by advertisers. Obviously the studio is making money there and the writers should too. Yes the strike sucks and yes I'm pissed that it could affect LOST but I also understand that most writers are not rich and are just normal people trying to make a living.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Lost is only written up to episode 8

    by rosasaks

    Lost is only written up to episode 8, which ends on a small cliff hanger which wouldn't be a satisfactory season finale. Or at least that's what Lindelof and Cuse have been telling people in interviews the past few days. They also said it's too soon to tell if the first eight will air in 2008 or be held back until 2009. This was reported in Variety amongst other sources. One of the gossip columns had claimed 14 out of 16 were written but she had her facts wrong.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST

    24 LOST

    by thelostraider

    Wouldn't it be better to air the first episodes, then have a break, and then go on with the final part of the season...????

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Union Haters

    by The Funketeer

    People who hate unions don't understand them and care only about their self interests. Why shouldn't people band together to try to improve their situation? Writers provide a service for which they feel they are underpaid. If they are correct, the studios will buckle and give them what they want. If they are wrong, the studios will replace them or the WGA will cave after a long period of time so their members can start earning some money again. It all balances out in the end and it doesn't cost you a dime. No one feels sorry for you because you can't watch your TV show when you want to now.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:47 p.m. CST

    as an objectivist...

    by DrManhattansUnit

    I believe that the moon is made of swiss cheese. Was there ever a phrase that gave a better guarantee that what follows will be ill-informed fantasist tosh?

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST

    I support the below the line people

    by Samuel Fulmer

    The ones who have nothing to gain, and everything to lose from this strike.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Clooney vs. Fabio

    by Samuel Fulmer

    This is just a prelude to the "entertainment" Hollywood will provide for the next year or so.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Re:Alen Smithee signed his name at the end of his post.

    by Alen Smithee

    Yes it is me. I figured if I was going to call some one a fucking pussy and a coward for not signing there name, that I better sign mine and live up to the saying "deeds, not words". Unlike "Moondogy" (I did sin my name Moondogy, check the bottom) and "TheEnder Smites Foes". Oh, and thanks "Fuck Michael Bay".

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Has William Goldman been mentally...

    by Samuel Fulmer

    striking for the past 15 years? I guess that would explain Hearts in Atlantis and Dreamcatcher.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Why We Strike

    by Alen Smithee

    Watch This. It may clear things up.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Can movie fans start a counterstike

    by Samuel Fulmer

    They can make up signs, chant, and wear brown shirts to represent the turded out state of today's Hollywood cinema.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Give the writers more money

    by MonkeyManReturns

    They deserve it!! If Fucking Cameron Diaz can get 10 million for sucking SHREK - Da writers should get their due as well! SUPPORT the writers - I'm with them on this!

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST


    by Samuel Fulmer

    I understand why WGA members want more cash, but as a member, how do you think the below the line people feel. I'm assuming they will all be out of their current jobs, and once the strike is resovled, they won't be getting any profits off internet downloads, DVDs, etc. Wasn't there some sort of way WGA members could've worked until a contract was ironed out that hey approved of? Also, if this strike goes on for too long, won't this get shows canceled that wouldn't have otherwise had the strike not happened? Those jobs will be lost forever.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Why not just pull a 'Be Kind, Rewind' TV execs

    by Reel American Hero

    And remake old shows like they were planning to do. Just give it to the fans to remake at that, would be way more entertaining than Dancing With The Porn Stars or whatever that show's called seven days a week.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Sam, I Love Your Work!

    by Alen Smithee

    ...Especially "The Big Red One" and "The Virginian". don't think anyone feels good about putting fellow co-workers out of work. And the guild has been trying to avoid this for some time.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    9-5 Job

    by _Maltheus_

    <p>No, I'll thank Henry Ford for that. Unions were fighting for it before him and a handful of companies won it for themselves, but Ford set the trend. He realized that nobody could buy his cars if people didn't have the money or the time to do it. So he doubled his employees pay and shortened their workday. Before that companies only gave that up with a fight. After him, they realized that the productivity gains were worth it. I actually suspect that you'd see even higher productivity from a 6 hour work day. It wasn't about the workers any more than abolishing slavery was about the slaves. It's about getting the most bang for your buck.</p> <p>As for 24, they should just cancel it. It's had a long run, skipping a year is just stupid. And why skip a year anyway? Why not just postpone everything? Who cares if the season slips into the summer (never understood why they take it off in the first place the lazy fucks)? These studios are really shooting themselves in the foot lately. Getting me out of the habit of watching TV may in fact be good for me, but dealers should never let their addicts find a rehab. Certainly not in this digital age. All companies seem unable to realize that the internet will have a far greater impact than even the printing press did.</p>

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST

    It's hard to take sides... inevitable baseball analogy

    by Bone-In Foray

    Like with the baseball strike, who is to blame when both sides come across as whiny and overpaid? Who are the winners in such a situation; who are the losers? Typically, the winners are the two sides in disagreement and the losers are the public at large. Clearly, any astute advocate could quickly find exceptions to such a blanket accusation - but everytime there is a strike involving a) greedy corporatist pigs and b) people who make a living doing what the rest of the "real" world might do for fun on a weekend, I can't help but shake my head in disbelief. Are the writers underpaid in the grand scheme of Hollywood? Yes. Are they overpaid in the grand scheme of life? Most of them, yes. And no matter how it is spun, both sides will ultimately come across as being self-centered. Especially for those of us who are absolutely beat at the end of a day and would like nothing better to do than to kick our respective feet up and tune in to some form of network schlop or another to de-stress. And perhaps live vicariously through those fortunate enough to be witty for a living. I've read through all of the posts and have yet to be convinced otherwise. And please don't invoke the old "you can't do what we do, but we could do what you do" fallacy.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Don't forget Shock Corridor Smithee

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I'm glad to hear the strike was a last option, but I still don't quite understand how you guys and gals couldn't have just worked until a fair contract was agreed upon. But aside from that madness, I'd like to commend you on Troops. It was much more enjoyable than the prequels.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Thanks Sam

    by Alen Smithee

    Unfortunately, if we had continued to work, we would never have gotten a "fair contract". And just so you know, SAG and the DGA contracts are up next year and they're asking for similar changes, so get ready for the sequels...

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Craft Services Strike

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Now that would be the biggest nightmare. Where would everyone hang out at during downtime? Play dress up with the costumers and hope that you find a bagel stuffed in a boot.

  • I thought it was one long improvisation. One long, never-ending, reeeeaaally bad improvisation. Or as though they wrote each episode the night before, fueled with Mountain Dew. And apparently not even enough of that. What a completely awful season that was. And nothing I've heard about this new season sounds like more than just winging it.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 3:24 p.m. CST

    24 sucks anyway but the show Life...

    by Frank Black

    is smart, suspenseful and has a great, great mystery brewing beneath every episode. The acting and characters are also a million times better than any minute of 24 (except for Powers Boothe who is acting gold.)

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Kim has "Itty Bitty Titties"...?

    by Osmosis Jones

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    reality shows have writers too

    by punto

    so something good might come out of all this after all.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Overpaid greedy SOB's

    by Python

    Let them quit and get real jobs with real salaries. 70k to start and there are tears. Good luck getting that working at the Carwash or McDonalds.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5 p.m. CST


    by -guyinthebackrow

    It's SOBs. Not SOB'S. There's no fucking possessive, you stupid SOB.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 5:44 p.m. CST


    by moondoggy2u

    I appologize for thinking you had not signed your name--I thought the name at the end was Ender's name, not yours. As for my defense of him not using his name, and my not signing my own, that stands. Why on earth anyone would voluntarily jeopardize their security by posting their real name on such a heavily viewed site is beyond me. Why not just ask for his social security while you're at it, smithee. As I said before, you were simply trying to intimidate those who disagree with you--way to prove my point about the mind set of the modern labor union.<p>As for anyone who feels that I'm unfamiliar with unions, believe me, I've had more than my fair share of experience with the AAUP, thank you very much.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Hey Smithee/Rubio

    by FookU

    What were you up to before the strike. I have to say again that TROOPS was one of those things that I ran across while waiting for the prequels (bleh) and it is an inspired piece of work. You and your crew did a great job on it. It's a shame the sequel became a non-sequel but obviously the industry saw talent in you and you had bigger projects to work on that probably included actual paychecks.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Name Recognition

    by Mixiboi

    One of the things the writers are fighting for...

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 6:49 p.m. CST

    This is gonna end up like the V miniseries

    by Raymar

    The writers have built up so much bad will that soon global acts of terrorism will be blamed on them. People will shot things like "those damn writers!" and they'll be rounded up and put in camps.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    What are we all going to discuss on this site soon?

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    All the writers are striking and the wheels of US television drama are grinding to a halt. God, what will all talk about? The weather? The environment?<p>*Sobs*

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 7:35 p.m. CST


    by finky089

    I support the writers, but who cares about 24 anymore?

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 7:57 p.m. CST


    by Lashlarue

    Those producers didn't want to piss off Jack Bauer. They're in deep shit now.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:18 p.m. CST

    All CBS showrunners threatened w/breach of contract

    by Pennsy

    lawsuits if they don't return to work. Here's the info, rather lengthy:

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Jack thinks there is a mole inside the writers union.

    by jingle_balls

    And no one will agree with Jack so he will go rogue.But its too late and Jack was right after all.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Why can't we post in the "petition" talkback?

    by TallBoy66

    Well? Why not? Seems a tad totaltarian to me.

  • Nov. 8, 2007, 10:36 p.m. CST

    And by "totaltarian" I mean "Totalitarian"

    by TallBoy66

    Point remains, lemmie post, dammit!

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Sign the petition? Not a chance!

    by Sick Fixx

    They're making us viewers suffer for THEIR art and I won't abide them punishing us for their dispute with the industry!

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Sick Fixx

    by buffywrestling

    You're suffering for *their* art? I thought artists suffered for their own art and you just got to watch. Passive-aggressive much?

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 4:34 a.m. CST

    I don't approve of this

    by TheMcflyFarm

    No sir, I don't like it.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 6:04 a.m. CST

    They deserve credit and pay for Internet profits

    by FookU

    quit blaming the writers. You're a moron if you think the writers are at fault here. I am not a writer or a member of a union in case you're wondering.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Get over your union angst moondoggy2u

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    So if you have a bad experience with a black person, then all black people are bad then? That's pretty much your argument for why you justify your stance against the WGA strike -- all unions are the same. They're not. Each is a different organization/entity, which should be considered individually, you know? (Sorry, but you accuse Smithee of being a bully, and yet here you are ad hominening on him, as well. Doesn't justify you using the same tactic back, nor does it strengthen your argument.) That said: Writers are paid far less than directors, producers and actors. Writers also earn the lowest residuals compared to these three, including the actors. Like I said above: It's not at all unusual for an actor appearing in a show to earn more residuals than the writer who wrote the episode. The DGA and SGA have better deals in place for its members, compared to what the WGA has -- and the DGA and SGA are probably going to strike starting in Summer 2008. Next year is really going to suck for this nation (both politically and in the entertainment media).

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 7:39 a.m. CST

    So they want more money

    by WarpedElements

    For the remakes/prequels/sequels/rehashes/every other type of hack shit they write? Yeah, because I think the people who rewrite asian horror movies or make a movie based on a video game or old tv series DESERVE more money. Yes there are some hard working original writers out there, but they're overshadowed by shills who rework great movies or ideas into commercial crap. Fuck'em. They're lucky they get paid at all for writing such crap.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    the bosses are playing hardball

    by chrisco,1,4277111.story?coll=la-headlines-business&ctrack=2&cset=true

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    wonder how long...

    by jimmy rabbitte'll take to settle all this.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Janitor's Guild Alliance

    by Sick Fixx

    The JGA just called. They want monetary compensation every time the toilet flushes or somebody bleeds out over the floor.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST

    You anti-union people are despicable

    by WWBD

    Since you're most likely in the 99% of the population who could be classified as LABOR, this strike is in your best interest. Yes, they are striking for residuals, but they are also striking for LABOR. Grow up, wake up, shut up.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 2:19 p.m. CST


    by Sick Fixx

    I've never asked for a raise. I've always EARNED them through hard work and the managers awarded them to me. That's a fact. They're throwing a hissy fit and holding up shows for hard working laborers like myself who have nothing to do with the unfair Hollywood system. Essentially, they're punishing us by holding up production and potentially ruining many tv shows that we looked forward to at the end of a hard day's work where things were probably unfair to us, but we dealt with it. I've dehydrated myself working 11 hours straight at my job before, without even asking for a drink. I've worked nine hour days on concrete with flat flat flat feet, NO ARCH, took fistfuls of painkillers to induce euphoria and keep myself going. So no, I have no sympathy because they can't get a few thousand more for their cushy dream jobs deciding which character whose backstory they get to develop this week. They have it so hard. Do we even need to quote Michael Eisner again?

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Sick Fixx

    by Sick Fixx

    What ever happened to leaving things up to God? What ever happened to suffering a little in life? 'God sees the truth, but waits.' No one takes any comfort in that phrase any longer.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 2:23 p.m. CST

    And let's face it

    by Sick Fixx

    If shows like Lost, 24, Prison Break, Battlestar Galactica and Heroes never return, you'll quickly join me in hating the prima donna writers. The studios are not innocent in all of this, but as I have said, the writers haven't even taken into consideration our thoughts on the matter. If they truly loved their art, they wouldn't hold it hostage like this.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Ernest Hemingway didn't need a union

    by Sick Fixx

    William Faulkner didn't need a union. Mark Twain didn't need a union. J.D. Salinger wouldn't answer his door for unions.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Sick Fixx

    by Norm

    Your jealousy at not being in a cushy union is showing.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Sick Fixx

    by Sick Fixx

    Your one sided, one dimensional sentence bores me. I've already outlined why I don't need a union and have never asked for one. Your argument lacks any logic. Move on.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 4:26 p.m. CST

    More time for Producers to think better story-lines

    by echobase

    .. then when the writers are back at least the season will be more plotted out in advanced... As opposed to running out of steam 4 episodes before the ending like during last season!

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST


    by Sick Fixx

    Don't you get it? This is the end of all our favorite shows. When this matter is settled, they'll have to start all over! The actors will move on to other projects. The sets will be disassembled. It will be too hard to return to normal. They've fucked it up for all of this. November 2nd, 2007. The day 100 tv shows died. Never forget. If you do, the writers win.

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    The Ghost of Rick James says...

    by Sick Fixx

    "Fuck yo residuals, nigga!"

  • Nov. 9, 2007, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Dammit, you have to air 24 in January

    by scrumdiddly

    or a hundred thousand people are gonna die! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?! I killed three writers this morning and felt NOTHING! Trust me when I tell you that I WILL do whatever I have to to make Fox show it! Mr. President I need you to TRUST ME! ..... God, I love talking like that.

  • Nov. 10, 2007, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Jack Bauer vs. The Writers

    by Sick Fixx

    Season 7 written by the executives

  • Nov. 10, 2007, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Season Six writers

    by Darth_Gonz

    Yeah, fuck those people. They deserve nothing. NOTHING. Bring back the Season 1 writers.....oh mean...they're the same? Wait? WHAT THE FUCK? Well then how did Season 6 suck so hard?

  • Nov. 11, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Good riddance.

    by minderbinder

    Probably the only good thing to come out of the strike so far.

  • Nov. 11, 2007, 1:48 p.m. CST

    I still think the writers strike is just like the baseball strik

    by vezner2007

    The rich are just looking to get richer. Greed is a crazy thing, especially in Hollywood.

  • Nov. 11, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    And so, in the end....

    by Karuma

    What happens is this...there is little word for a few weeks, both sides are practically mum on their take on the ongoing strike. In a few weeks we get dribblings and asides from both sides as the war of words heats up. No one is making their case but most people are too wrapped up in the holidays to notice since this is a time for reruns and Christmas Specials that few people watch and even less care about. The year turns to 2008 and the war of words heats up, and people began to follow the negotiations because in just a few weeeks CBS will debut "Survivor:Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, Michigan", ABC "So You Think You're Too Fat", NBC "Thank God You're Here II" and Fox "American Idol" Fox pulls in 95% of the viewing audience. The other networks panic and promise to do everything they can to get the writers back as soon as possible. In February the Union signs a deal that gives the writers 80% of their demands. Everyone goes back to work as happy as clams. The cost of the strike comes to almost $290 billion dollars in lost revenue for the networks, which they pass down to the sponsors who pass it on to us. Everything is back to normal. "Hey, how much are these Advil?".......... "$600"........"Give me two."