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‘There’s A Storm Coming, Dr. Suresh!!’ HEROES 2.7!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
From Friday’s Ausiello Report over at TV Guide:
Sources confirm that [“Heroes”] is going back and shooting an alternate ending to the Dec. 3 episode that, if used, would allow the episode to function as a season finale in the event of a strike. Originally, the episode was only supposed to serve as the conclusion of the current "Generations" arc. Should an 11th-hour agreement be reached and a strike averted (fingers crossed!), the alt ending would likely be scrapped.
Let’s review:
CLAIRE. Freaked out drunken head cheerleader Debbie and took her place on the squad.
MONICA. Worked on gymnastics with Mohinder in New York, then got an iPod from Bob when he returned her to K-Ville.
MOHINDER. Refused to inject Monica and used a lab stool to smash a giant glass case of superpower antidote.
JESSIKI. Announced, Ravenwood-style, she’s Mohinder’s new goddamn partner.
SYLAR. Made love-eyes at Maya until she killed the Citizen Border Patrol. The Rogue crossed back into Claire’s homeland.
ANDO. Continued to read Hiro’s diary.
HIRO. Admitted to the princess his true feelings and gave her a big wet one.
KENSEI. Turned out to be a traitorous swine who knocked Hiro unconscious.
NOAH & THE HAITIAN. Bulleted Ivan’s brain and found the missing (but not terribly helpful) Mendez paintings.
PETER. Traveled with Caitlin to Montreal and found a note addressed to Peter: “We were right about The Company. The world is in danger. It’s up to us. Adam.” Then they popped onto the set of “Vanilla Sky.” Or possibly “I Am Legend.”
MATT. NATHAN. MICAH. ANGELA. ELLE. Sat last week out.
Ahead:
Nov. 5
2.7 OUT OF TIME
When one of his forgotten abilities suddenly manifests, Peter and Caitlin get thrown into a crisis situation, and learn first-hand just how deadly the mysterious virus striking people with abilities can be. Suresh, Matt, Nathan, Niki and Bob band together to fend off the "nightmare man's" attack. Despite Claire's best efforts to keep them apart, West learns that the man who kidnapped him as a child is her father. Meanwhile, in feudal Japan, Hiro and Kensei's legendary journey takes a dramatic, final turn.
Nov. 12
2.8 FOUR MONTHS AGO
When the clock turns back four months for all of the Heroes, Nathan pays a terrible cost for his heroic actions. While Peter survives his detonation over New York City, the Company "bags" him as a threat to the world, eventually leading to violent confrontation with Elle (Kristen Bell) and the Haitian (Jimmy Jean-Louis). D.L. (Leonard Roberts) makes the ultimate sacrifice for Niki (Ali Larter) and Micah (Noah Gray-Cabey). Maya (Dania Ramirez) horrifically manifests her dark powers for the first time, driving her and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) to America for help. A mysterious, yet familiar face is introduced.
Nov. 19
2.9 CAUTIONARY TALES
Convinced that the Company is close to finding them, H.R.G. prepares the family to run -- but Claire has other ideas. Meanwhile, Hiro returns from the past and learns of his father's death. Grief-stricken, he flings himself into past and makes a stunning personal discovery. After a charged first encounter with Elle, Suresh makes a decision that could change lives. Meanwhile, Matt struggles with his expanding mental abilities and Maya and Alejandro's relationship is tested as they travel with Sylar.
Nov. 26
2.10 TRUTH & CONSEQUENCES
Peter travels to Primatech Paper in Texas with his new friend to destroy the virus, which will kill 93 percent of the world's population in the future -- or so he believes. Niki returns to Micah with bad news. To right a wrong, Monica puts her abilities to the test while Hiro goes after his father's killer. Meanwhile, Matt uses his mental abilities to track down the last person in the company photo. In addition, Nathan learns his brother is alive. Outside of New York, Maya must choose between Alejandro and Sylar.
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2.7 OUT OF TIME
When one of his forgotten abilities suddenly manifests, Peter and Caitlin get thrown into a crisis situation, and learn first-hand just how deadly the mysterious virus striking people with abilities can be. Suresh, Matt, Nathan, Niki and Bob band together to fend off the "nightmare man's" attack. Despite Claire's best efforts to keep them apart, West learns that the man who kidnapped him as a child is her father. Meanwhile, in feudal Japan, Hiro and Kensei's legendary journey takes a dramatic, final turn.
2.8 FOUR MONTHS AGO
When the clock turns back four months for all of the Heroes, Nathan pays a terrible cost for his heroic actions. While Peter survives his detonation over New York City, the Company "bags" him as a threat to the world, eventually leading to violent confrontation with Elle (Kristen Bell) and the Haitian (Jimmy Jean-Louis). D.L. (Leonard Roberts) makes the ultimate sacrifice for Niki (Ali Larter) and Micah (Noah Gray-Cabey). Maya (Dania Ramirez) horrifically manifests her dark powers for the first time, driving her and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) to America for help. A mysterious, yet familiar face is introduced.
2.9 CAUTIONARY TALES
Convinced that the Company is close to finding them, H.R.G. prepares the family to run -- but Claire has other ideas. Meanwhile, Hiro returns from the past and learns of his father's death. Grief-stricken, he flings himself into past and makes a stunning personal discovery. After a charged first encounter with Elle, Suresh makes a decision that could change lives. Meanwhile, Matt struggles with his expanding mental abilities and Maya and Alejandro's relationship is tested as they travel with Sylar.
2.10 TRUTH & CONSEQUENCES
Peter travels to Primatech Paper in Texas with his new friend to destroy the virus, which will kill 93 percent of the world's population in the future -- or so he believes. Niki returns to Micah with bad news. To right a wrong, Monica puts her abilities to the test while Hiro goes after his father's killer. Meanwhile, Matt uses his mental abilities to track down the last person in the company photo. In addition, Nathan learns his brother is alive. Outside of New York, Maya must choose between Alejandro and Sylar.
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This show better improve. And I mean soon.
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Seriously, this season couldn`t possibly be more generic...
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Damn, I would've been first had I not read the damn thing. This show is going downhill, they better redeem it soon.
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I'll just keep reading Herc's episode summaries from now on.
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Nov 05, 2007 2:18:03 AM CST
Anyone else have a bad feeling about this make shift "season fin
by junofallon
The show has barely picked up any momentum as it is and now because of this strike were going to get a 12 episode season? Man, I hope this doesn't kill this show. I want SO badly for it to pick back up, but this just feels like a bad idea...
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The producers knew there was going to be a writers' strike, so they creatively pre-empted it by not getting any writers onboard this season. Explains everything.
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shouldnt we be going on strike for what the writers had done this season?
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damnn...
Heroes season 2 hasn't screened in the UK yet but if all the reports of its slide in quality are correct, ending the season early with a hastily-cobbled together alt ending sounds like the perfect way to cap it.
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Didn't necessarily jump on the bash 'Heroes' bandwagon because it was so early in the season, but it hasn't been that good. Not really.
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Maybe this will end up being like the lackluster "mini-pod" of six episodes Lost had last season. Wrapping up this lame story arc and having a nice eight-month hiatus could give the Heroes writers a chance to seriously rethink the direction of their show and return on much stronger footing. Like most, I'm dissatisfied with the current season. Heroes' first half-dozen episodes were its strongest. If it can return to that quality, it can be a great show again. Maybe the writers could use a "time out." :-P
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wasn't the plan to do Chapters Two and Three during season two. So not the big difference is, Chapter Two will actually have an ending?
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Nov 05, 2007 4:57:14 AM CST
I have a feeling the rest of this arc is going to be fantastic
by jor-el23
and remind us why we love this show. The season has been sluggish, I'll admit that. It's almost like they started all over again to remind viewers what the show was about.
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..superpowered fights. They owe us. Kring owes us. Please no more clairebear testing her abilitys crab..i mean...thats worthless isnt it ? Worthless and nasty.
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such fabulous stretches of imagination known as "Heroes"!
Sorry. I can't give this show much credit after the failure of the episodes leading up to and epitomized in the season one finale, and the utterly lackluster episodes that have followed with each episode since! Truth is, the writers seem to be quite justified in their requests. The market will dictate how many DVDs are sold in the future (I'm not imagining a lot for Heroes S2 as it stands). Now if only all the musicians out there can do the same thing and drop CD prices down to what they're worth ($6-$8 tops per unit with same residuals to the bands, less skim for the "generous" recording labels).
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i don't think the situation is a bad as everyones making out, agreed it hasn't been that amazing this season, but i reckon they'l pull it back, theres still some potentially good stories been brewed. looking forward to peter and nathan meeting again, and nathans melted face alter ego. hiro coming back to the present. oh, and the producers actually figuring how to use green screen haha. its just down right terrible this year, can't remember the comping being that bad last season.
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all right nerds start crying like cunts. wahhhh this episode sucks,wahhhh i'm not watching watching it anymore.
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its a fair point really. i hear so much, 'im not watching it anymore', but then there still spending time, talk backing about something they don't watch anymore....maybe just not watch it, and leave it at that? maybe...
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it's just not as consistently good as the first one. Sophmore Blues.
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I remember all the crap Heroes fanboys gave Lost fans last year in the Lost talkbacks for being slow and taking forever to reveal anything while Heroes was quick and revealing every week. Lost fans of course said wait and see how well Heroes is doing in season 3. Well, what do you know, Heroes is just as lethargic as Lost was in the first half of season 3. And it's only the first quarter of season 2!
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And his power isn't really flying but somehow he borrowed the power from Peter. Or maybe he's Peter and Nathan's hybrid clone....eww, about kissing Claire though. But at least he'd be more interesting. If this season ends this Fall the show has delivered one of the worst second seasons I could have imagined. Lame lame lame! The only show to be this frustrating in a second season for me was probably Alias--but that at least gave us a cool Lena Olin and came off of a good finale which Heroes did not.
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yeah but season 3 of lost, had an awesome pay off at the end, and it made it worthwhile sticking it out for the slower times. which i think we need to do now for heroes. that said i still think they know what they're doing with lost, whilst heroes is clearly been made up as there going along. not that ive got a problem with that as such, it just means you can't look to deep into, cause its got contradictions left right and center. not a problem as long as its still entertaining i guess!
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Irony: someday, this alt ending will be featured as a DVD extra, and the writers still won't get any residuals from it.
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After this band-aid season ending episode in December it's gonna completely screw all the episodes they had written and in the can that were to come after. Talk about screwing yourself.
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i might actually have to give heroes season 2 repeats a look
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The show will go bye-bye for this season on 12/3 and the next 5 episodes *will* be kickass, and the next four are GUARANTEED to have Kristen Bell in them. No coincidence there. :)
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The worst I can say about the first 6 episodes of LOST S3 was that they were a frustrating, sometimes maddening tease. Uninteresting and unfocused they were not.
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Because until last week, they definitely needed to clean house and start again. And we have to wait until the 19th before Hiro starts his manhunt for his father's killer? Crap.
Oh, and the first 6 episodes of LOST Season 3 were in no way "more compelling and entertaining television than the best HEROES has had to offer this season or last." Yes, the LOST team did a great 180 and turned things around brilliantly for Season 3, but be honest and don't act like those first six episodes weren't anything less than craptacular.
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Call me (or email me). I don't belong to the WGA, but I have many good ideas and I don't have any plans in the future to join the industry, so I'll gladly write for you the rest of the season. Feel free to review my talkback history to show the extent with which I've followed Heroes (and other shows like BSG) and all the theories/ideas I've posited regarding the show.
Sincerely, ChrTh
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Ratings aren't any better than the other shows placed after Heroes last season, and it's getting no buzz. Even without the writer's strike, I doubt it would survive past midseason.
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Damn, that was so funny where you took our love/hate of the show and the purpose of the talkback, you know, to talk about the show and threw it in our faces. Wow, seriously, now that the strike is here, you could go be a scab writer somewhere with that scathing, rapier style wit. Idiot.
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I really do. But, lets be honest. It just isnt. I want anyone to give me 3 compelling things about this season so far. Do not give me faith in the show or any of that crap. I want actual characters or plot points! Anyone?
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whats interesting about peter this series, is that despite the whole memory loss trick being a tiresome plot point, it could prove quite interesting to a character that is technically a walking super weapon, not to mention potentially a nuclear bomb. hes like jason bourne with an x-factor, and i think thats compelling.
despite the fact that havent gone into the back story of the previous generation of heroes as i would have liked, the minuteman style photo of them all together really does interest me, i want to know more, and i do think we'll get there. after all, there are other people in that photo that haven't even been mentioned yet.
Nathan is half melted two facey alter ego, im interested in where they're going with that aswell. is that his inner bad guy, or is that his guilt for what happened with peter.
i agree, there not exactly plot points that have come to fruition yet, but i still think there worthy of 'keeping the faith', and not just turning on the show after so few episodes into the series. i dunno, im not trying to convince you otherwise, obviously your entitled to your opinion, just trying to explain why i still think the shows gonna deliver. -
I can't say I'm excited about Matt getting the same powers as his dad, but I am looking forward to the fight with his daddy.
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but I invented the Sorkin-Effect(tm).
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that things start to improve starting tonight. I know it's unlikely since you can't suddenly improve writing technique and get better dialog or get rid of adding awkward/silly/illogical setups or anything but at the very least maybe we'll get a ton of awesome geekiness. I would really hate to see a superhero show on prime time get canceled. Maybe the best bet would to let Season 2 end in Dec. and then have NBC hire some new writers to reboot the series (after the strike ends of course).
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too true. Latino Twins powers activate, "shape of a poorly constructed premise. shape of eye candy..."
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...the ability to pinch a shite mid-loaf.
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Sorry if this was mentioned in last week's talkback - I missed it and don't want to wade through all the Lost v. Heroes talk, or the "I'm done with this show" statements from people who'll post again this week - but isn't is possible that Peter's vision of the future is just the Nightmare Man messing with his head? Just sounds a bit odd, the description of "Peter travels to Primatech Paper in Texas with his new friend to destroy the virus, which will kill 93 percent of the world's population in the future -- or so he believes."
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has Peter ever met Jessiki, and if so, what the frak is her power and how would it manifest in him? Is he this Adam from the note they mentioned in an upcoming episode?
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is the most fucking CLICHE thing that Suresh could have said and, to me, really shows how mediocre the writing is on this over-hyped-full-of-potential-yet-never -connects show. And again....I'll be watching hoping it does. You have me there Heroes.
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After K-Town, Illegal Immigrant mutants who go nowhere, and redneck border guards who jump on cars this show has gotten LAME. Last year was like reading a Marvel graphic novel, this year it is like reading a 1950's DC comic. When will they have animals with super powers show up?
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He's his own grandfather.
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Will any of the ensemble mysterio-dramas out these days ever compare to at least the first season?
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Holy crap, has this show gone down the shitter.
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Good news, everyone! That little concept has been done (hilariously) by Futurama. Frye is his own grandfather.
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...because of the strike one of the networks is gonna go to al "All Reality Show All the Time" format... and keep it that way after the strike ends becoming the "All Reality Network"? My guess is NBC because all their shows are tanking abysmally this season.
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Fuck yeah. I never understood the hate for the first six episodes of S3 of Lost. I thought the last episode and the cliffhanger were kind of weak, but whatever. Way to break it down though. And to answer your question: "Ummm... nothing?"
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Lets hope they move Monday Night Football back to network TV.
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its called doing the nasty in the past-y.
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Please, lick balls. They're both great shows with decidedly different subject matters. I mean, if you were to compare Heroes and 4400, then I can understand, but this Lost v. Heroes crap is pointless. How about a Grey's Anatomy v. Desperate Housewives? How about Happy Days v. M*A*S*H? You get my point. Heroes will be up & down on it's own fan-o-meter and so will LOST. THAT is worthy of discussion. But they're both great shows. (Or at least aspire to the greatness that is lacking in many other offerings.)
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But the Space Pope doesn't.
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...because when I watched those episodes, I remember all the AICN talkbacks where everyone bitched about the Losties being split up, the storyline not advancing anywhere, Nikki and Paolo being two annoying characters that needed to be killed off...You know, the exact same shit people are currently ripping on HEROES for doing. To your credit, though, HEROES at least doesn't have Claire slipping in and out and in and out of a cage and Peter trying to figure out how to get biscuits out of his cage's food dispenser.
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Aquatarkusman, NO, nothing will ever compare to Twin Peaks.
With that said, can you please check something for me on your Twin Peaks DVD set? I bought a set from Amazon, and I am having problems with discs 4 and 6. On those two discs, I can only play episodes using the "play all" button on the main menu. The "Episodes" menu on those two discs is messed up on my set. I can choose "Episodes" from the main menu and select an episode from the submenu, but the next menu (the one where you choose to play the individual episode with/without Log Lady intro) has no buttons. Can you check your set to see if you have the same problem? I'm gonna send mine back, but need to decide if I'm going to ask for a refund or a replacement. -
Gettin a blowjob from yer cousin can get kinda borin after a while. But the first time she slips her finger up yer ass, well, love it or hate it, it certainly gets yer attention. Heroes needs to stop slurpin and stick a finger up Americas ass, time to wake us up a bit.
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This whole season has been one big lab stool! Ugh.
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I said that like a million years ago. Quick, I'll be a scab! Hire me to write this predictable shitty season!
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That is weird; I guess I haven't noticed anything because I've been using the "play all with log lady introductions." I'll see what's up later on this evening if I remember.
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Yeah, I don't think so. There's only so much geekdom to fight over.
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Nov 05, 2007 12:35:53 PM CST
Shia LaBeouf arrested, starring Shia LaBeouf as Shia LaBeouf
by cletus van damme
He loves him some Walgreen's!
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Just how did Peter manage to obtain DL's power? He wasn't that close to him. Do they meet again?
Peter must have Sylars power to look into a brain and understand where/how the power manifests. If Peter gains x-ray vision he would not need to pop tops just squint at brains.
Peter is fucking Kekashi the copy ninja from Naruto. He needs a Maito Gai to compliment him.
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Yep has to be.
But the real question is Kensei related to Claire? And did West kill Hiro's father?
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Is West Adam Munroe or Magneto? He is fairly hyped on the more powerful we are different thing.
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Now wouldn't THAT be a more satisfying medium for the saga than prime time tv? At least that way there'd (hopefully) be a more dynamic plot. I agree with the lot of you, that at best Heroes is full of potential yet rarely connects, but when when it does its great.
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Nov 05, 2007 1:27:18 PM CST
Questions about how Peter can have someone's ability he's barely
by simplesandwiches
...should be followed by an open-palmed slap to the genital and the following declaration: "Oh duh...the title of Heroes 2.1 was 'FOUR MONTHS LATER'!" Patience, people (though I know it's running thin...).
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She is his granddaughter. Kensei is Peter and Nathan's dad. Check the photo of the 12, among other things.
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Because Kristen Bell is in both of them (AC is out tomorrow for the 360, next week for PS3).
From the Ubisoft press release: "Today Ubisoft announces that Hollywood actress Kristen Bell will appear in Ubisoft's highly anticipated video game, Assassin's Creed. She will play a key character in (the game), whose mysterious role is an important part of the game's intricate storyline.
“It was crucial to find an actress who could convey the emotional range and talent needed to play this key character in the Assassin's universe,“ said Jade Raymond, producer for Assassin's Creed. “Kristen is a remarkable actress who was able to bring her character to life in a dynamic way that I don't think anyone else could have done properly. Her professionalism and dynamic personality were a perfect fit for this project."
"I was a big video gamer growing up, so working on Assassin's Creed is my chance to be a part of video game history,“said Bell. “It's something completely different than what I've done before, so it's cool I get to branch out and try another entertainment medium. I was attracted to this project because of the intelligent storyline and the character I play. Plus I admire the artistry of the graphics of video games. I look forward to seeing what my character will look like and I can't wait to play the game and see if I can beat it!"
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Next Generation's second season was also short and affected by the last writers' strike in '88. It had one or two standouts, but generally thought of as its weakest season (including basically ending in a clip show). I hope Heroes is having the same sophomore slump and seasons 3-4 will be some legendary TV.
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You really should hire chrth. He would be an asset to the show. Especially, if he will kill the Nikkessica story line!Biggles - I agree. Both Lost and Heroes are better than most of the crap on television. Comparing them is silly. Vanilla or chocolate? Phht, I want both!Adam Munroe has to be Kensei, because it makes perfect sense. If it is West... well that one is coming from left field. I do wonder if West and Elle are Kensie's children in this timeline though. I know Elle has to be...EvilWizardGlick - I actually made that connection over the summer and compared them both (Claire/Kensei) to Wolverine and was torn apart for it. All three seem to have the same power to me.I really hope we have more of Matt's dad tonight, and Sylar of course. :D
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He rarely ever comes here anymore, and every week Pennsy damns him. Now how would you feel if Wonka were damned to hell all because of you Pennsy? Hmmm? Well, I'll just save him a seat next to the one they have reserved for me.
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for sharing a link to a fantabulous spoiler, right? We all loved and hated it. Hence the damning. I don't feel old, and I was here last year too. bear - I don't know. I really hope he doesn't come back or I may lose my lady like demeanor again. I blame it all on this frickin' cold.. never my hot Irish bloodReally hope this writers strike doesn't bring on more reality TV. *hate reality TV* I was really looking forward to "Origins" - a spin on Heroes world from different writers/directors. :(
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bear as chrth's assistant as long as Pennsy can be Bell's personal assistant and I can be ZQ's personal assistant.
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would be called X-men.
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... A Black and White Cookie! Deliciousness personified... racial harmony in cookie form.
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1. the wonder twins story is just about to get interesting! Don't nix it yet. Why do you ask?
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That's how little enthusiasm I have for Heroes. Really stunning, because last season I was championing the show in its freshman year here on the TBs.
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Journeyman deserves more respect dammit!
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I hope Claires toe grows into a miniClaire which she then has to hide.
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...an alternate ending? Why? Why not just pick up the story where it leaves off when the strike is over?
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I agree Stripper Hulk must die. With Sylar in the Wonder Twins storyline I imagine things are going to get incredibly interesting. -- I was not raised in the South, but I have lived there... OK, I live there now. No stalking me!*looks out window*
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What about actors who appear at sci-fi/comic book/genre conventions from here on out? Since the Screen Actors Guild has mandated (don't know how they can enforce it) that actors are on the picket line 20 hours a week, this could throw a real monkeywrench into folks who pay money to see actors like Hayden and KB who may wind up getting pulled from these events to walk a fucking picket line.
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in the finale last season. So he survived; what's his purpose this time? To conquer all again? Been there, done that.
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As in 10:01PM, that is; so consider yourselves sufficiently heads-upped. And I believe in that extra minute tonight there will be an ElleBell sighting in the preview for 4 Months Ago.
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official wrong turn.
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her hair also didn't burn off when she got near the nuclear hillbilly.
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i've been on the net for twelve hours straight, spelling errors are invitable.
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So...they never really explained, I don't think but did Sylar ever get Google Girl/Wiki-Woman's power? It didn't even explain if she lost her life to Sylar later on or to the blood clot.
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The alternate ending, from what I understand, is to solidify the "Generation"s storyline that would have lead into January's new story arc.
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One of the most disappointing things I've heard on a TV series DVD commentary is that the writers were making it up as they go along. Which makes me wonder if the Heroes writers know what they're doing. Cause I can forgive the slow pacing right now, if there's going to be a pay-off later on. Otherwise, I'll just continue to watch and whine. =^(
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Better make sure you've been reading the comic, cause thats the only way you'll see this one coming.
Too bad this seasons gonna get cut short. Maybe they can use the comic?
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"On another front, I have been advised by a source on “Heroes” that Tim Kring has quit the series. Apparently the network was making him remove storylines that could not be wrapped up in the existing episodes that are now being finished. This caused wholesale rewrites of three episodes over the past week and weekend."
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to be fair, though there are good moments in the begining episodes of twin peaks season 2,the second season doesn't really get going until they introduce the nastiest looney since killer bob, ME, Wyndom Earle! after that, the rest of the season kicks much ass. my only gripe is that they solved the mystery of laura palmer's death a little too early into the season. doesn't really matter though, as there are too many good surprises to mention and everything pays off in the end and then some. too bad there was not a third season, as there was a great cliff-hanger-ending to the second. i wonder if the show would have gone on to greater success if it had been sold to Fox and followed or had been a lead in to the X-files...hmmmmm..interesting? discuss!
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Sylar got WikiWoman's power
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I got 9 weeks left on leave, and I work cheap-ish. Kring, call me baby, we'll do lunch.
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Well I'll believe it when I see it posted elsewhere. You hear lots of things on this talkback.
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I came up with a new Hero name for Niki/Jessica:
Nausicaa.
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was abandoning the chess match. It always came off as the writers getting bored with it. They should've kept it going.
Even watching the last few moments of tonight's episode of Chuck with the volume muted, I can still tell Reaper is a better show. What I can't understand is: if they wanted Seth Green on the show, why not just hire Seth Green? What's with the bearded clone? -
Instead of calling him My Voice Is My Passport, I'll be calling him Jankis.
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Here we go...
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In feudal Japanese!?~!?!
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is made of win chrth! OK, I am not peeking any more, because I heard this episode will rock my socks off and I don't want to spoil it.
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But he locks her in a closet?
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I mean seriously, you want to save electricity? GO OFF THE AIR FOR A WEEK. Tinting your logo green ain't going to save the planet.
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Dumn HRG Guy...
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in the kitchen.
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SLAP!
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Sweet.
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She has the !AWESOME!(TM) Power as well!
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So far, this is better. I am still not holding my breath though.
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Now that's an interesting idea, but wouldn't it mean that Ando has a real power? Don't all children of heroes have hero powers?
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So ... 4 months later is from November to ... March. So this is a compressed timeframe, then.
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Nikki wears a thong and looks hot.
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Well of course he is, he's black (you see what I did there?)
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Green stuff keeps flashing across the screen.
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I think we found out who Elle's dad is.
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The first step on the road back...
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Who the heck is Adam? Have we seen him?
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I love being damned by all of you, it makes me smile every time.as for my absence, it's 50% that I am inordinately busy all the time here, 40% that the show isn't exciting me as much, 5% that I am on the west coast and so I fear spoilers, 4% that I can't post to AICN from work very easily, and 1% Frank Stallone.'m looking forward to tonight, though...2 1/2 hours and counting. time to make some pasta and open a bottle of red wine. it's Heroes Monday!oh, and my bowling team is SO undefeated...http://tinyurl.com/2zje6e(I'm the one with all the tattoos, obviously...)now I got olives and red peppers as a definite for my pasta, what else should I throw in there?
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Her: "Didn't Peter whine about not being able to control his power last season?"
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Lucky Roy Munson.
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Wasn't Matt is some trap the last time we saw him?
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Is a horrible actor.
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Sweaty Kruger strikes again...
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is great virren.
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a real sword fight, finally!
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And nope for Beowulf.
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wow so kensei is prob adam.( i might be wrong but after that scene it could be)
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Now let's crank it up in the last 20 minutes, shall we?
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So the virus kills everybody in the world, and Adam/Kensei let loose the virus because he's pissed that Hiro kissed his girlfriend. It's all Hiro's fault.
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Jeebus...
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FINALLY!!
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Don't know if you originated it, Pennsy, but it's genius.
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so where does syler and the brother and sis fit into all of this?
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Because he refused to reshoot the 12/3 episode? Details? URL?
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Nice season 1 callback there.
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Mohinder's going to have to cap HRG?
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Takezo lives!!!!!!
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All is forgiven, Heroes.
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we all didn't see that coming.
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So adam is takezo, why must they make the story more complicated now. There is no way this can be all cleaned up good if the strike continues.
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Alliances turned. People blew the fuck up! Nikki doesn't have any powers anymore. Billions of people died. People used their powers in cool ways...Parkman! Peter left his girl in the apocalyptic future! Things happened finally! YIPPEE!
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that Takezo/Adam has lived long enough to have lineage to all the heroes, right? Or am I crazy?
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everyone was burying the show and now it's great again. Patience is a virtue. Also, I called it Kensei(Adam) is an immortal or some such thing. Good job Heroes!
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I TOLD YOU!!! ITOLD YOU FUCKS TO BE PATIENT AND THIS SHOW WOULD OWN!!! NOW WE COOKING WITH GAS BABY!!!
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I myself first suspected Hiro or having been Kensei when we first learned about him in season one. And I'd first suspected the original Kensei of having been the Hero-killer the moment that we learned that he couldn't die; how else would the murderer of Hiro's father have survived the fall himself? Did nobody else see that coming lol?
The only thing tonight that surprised me was Peter's leaving his girlfriend in the future. Correct me if I'm mistaken (and I might very well be), but that's never been done before. -
Kuudos to whoever first realized that this season's villain was created by none other than Hiro Nakamura himself. I wonder when Hiro will learn the awful truth about that?
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN MOTHERFUCKING WAITING FOR!!! Look, I'm not going to sit here and say I told you so, haters, because you were right. I was a SLOW-ass motherfucking build. But look now, at what a build it was. After last week's B+ ep, I knew this was going to be out of the park. Teaser for next week has me salivating, JUST LIKE LAST SEASON, BABY!! So bittersweet though, because of the strike.
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We all saw it coming, we've been talking about Kensei still being alive for weeks. He was even in that group photo a few eps back.
You're right about leaving somebody in the future, that was a new twist. Guess he'll have to go back to get her.
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I've been holding out, waiting for something excellent. I knew they had to be building towards something huge, as there were waaaaay too many loose ends floating around, and wish the threads had come together an episode or two earlier...but damn. Tonight was excellent. Although Parkman yelling at Daddy in order to defeat him was kind of weak, but I guess it'd be kinda hard to show that sort of power shift by way of a real-life staring contest. Anyways, leaving McForehead in the future was probably the most creative way of dropping an insignificant character that I've seen in awhile. Big kudos for the "oops" on that one. And judging by next week's preview, we're in for some FX goodies. Definitely makes me glad I've watched faithfully through the slow start.
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Wow, some excellent comic books moments, great revelations, finally Hiro in an interesting bit (even Jikki was good). Adam Monroe/Munroe? Weather control? Storm = Ororo Munroe. Hmmm...
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1) West is upset because obviously Claire made him stalk her by pretending not to be interested. Damn women!
2) HRG is even more officially awesome now as the company is good and he doesn't even realize it!
3) How does one recover a girlfriend popped into an apocalpytic future if you change time?
4) Murray the K was a great villain, I hope he comes back at some point. Kudos Parkman.
5) So obviously Adam/Kensei killed Sulu, since he could get up and walk away. Dang, I was kinda hoping it was Nathan under control.
That was one long setup, but I really like where we're at right now. Next several episodes should smoke.
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"Noah, No! Isaac is dead! Those paintings are worth thousands!"
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Haven't been posting since i was willing to give the show the benefit of the doubt, and all the negativity was bringing me down, but this rocked my frackin cock! But it is truly tipical that as soon as the show picks up, it gets screwed...sigh
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... and it seems like it was about the same point that things started picking up! Seems like they need about a 6 EP running start, then things churn along really well. The preview from next week looked incredible - this is the show I remember :^)
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After a couple centuries, Adam probably has lots and lots and lots of kids. For all we know, Adam made good on his threat of marrying Hiro's girlfriend after he pulled himself together.
Oh, I do have to admit one thing: for a while, I'd sort of also suspected Hiro's dad of having been the original Kensei. But oh well. -
If Adam and Linderman, and Parkman's dad were all working together, and it was their plan to incinerate NYC last season, and Angela was part of that plan, why is he going after Angela this season? I understand why he went after Hero's dad and the bald guy, 'cause they're clearly defectors from the cause, but why Angela?
I'm still a little unclear about who was part of which faction within the organization? -
'Save Niki, Save the World!', 'Save Niki, Stop the Incurable Strain!', 'Find Claire, Save Niki!', or 'Piss Claire Off, HRG is SCREWED!'? Definitely the best episode so far. Even better than some of last season's. DAMN YOU WRITERS' STRIKE!
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Damn, it took me a good while to stop laughing at that! Too funny!
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Maybe because Mama Petrelli failed to make Nathan end the world?
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jdl82: I was wrong, Bob/Jankis is Elle's father based on the promo, not Kensei.
jerseycajun: The incineration of NYC wasn't a plan by Linderman's group. It was something they were made aware of and were going to take advantage of. I'm guessing Kensei was already 'in custody' long before that. -
how goddamn boring it must have been for Kensei to wait around for centuries just so everyone on this show could be born?? Kinda like when you spend the night at a friend's house and you wake up like 2 hours before they do so you're not sure what the fuck to do with yourself...
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I think Adam is the common ancestor to all the heroes. I mean, his name pretty much says it all. He is 'patient' zero for the hero gene.
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BITE ME! THIS SHOW WAS MEDIOCRE AT BEST!WHAT RIDICULOUS WRITING REQUIRES THAT KAITLIN AND PETER REDCAP THE LAST THREE EPISODES DURING THEIR WALKS THROUGH THE STREETS OF NEW YORK!BLOW ME!LAST WEEK, IT'S ALL, OH, LEAVE US ALONE, ECL. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, JUST DON'T POST. THEN I DON'T POST AND SUDDENLY IT'S 'WHERE'S ELVIS?!??!"WELL, HERE I AM, YOU GRANDPA PORN LOVING MULE FUCKER!THIS.SHOW.SUCKED. THIS.EPISODE.WAS.AN. IMPROVEMENT.ON.LAST.WEEK. BUT.THAT.HAS.NOTHING. TO.DO.WITH.THE. REHASHED.FUCKING.PLOTS. AND.STALE.FUCKING. WRITING.AND.HOW.ALL. THE.CHARACTERS.SEEM. TO.HAVE.FORGOTTEN. ALL. OF. LAST. YEAR. AND. HOW. THE. FIRST. SIX. EPISODES. SUCKED. ONE. PRETTY. GOOD. EPISODE. DOES. NOT. CHANGE. THE. FACT. THAT. THE. ENTIRE. FIRST. SIX. FUCKING. EPISODES. SUCKED. LIKE. YOU. WHEN. THE. NAVY. COMES. TO. HARBOR. COMPRENDE, YOU INBRED COCK-MAGGOT?
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I TOLD YOU FUCKS!!!I NEVER GAVE UP ON THIS SHOW!!! Now watch everyone start jumping back on the bandwagon you turncoat,disloyal fucks!!
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It could be Adam, since he's lasted these three hundred + years.
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why i loved this show. great friggin' episode. I wish they wouldn't have taken so long to get here though.
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Don't use your daddy's pet names for you with me? If you and he want to spend your night's blowing each other, that's your own business, but don't think you can do that kind of shit out here in public. I "for real" hate turd-lickers like you who BEG to be left alone and then fucking act like tough shit when you're LEFT ALONE! FUCK OFF! This episode brought to a climax the rehashed plotlines of this season. Whoopee. Heroes can "fix" the shitty climax last year with a moderately better one this year. How amazing.
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"So much worse than being stood up. Just having your date leave you in another time. Yuck."
I love it! ROFL
SOOOOOO.... I guess the biggest mystery staring us right in the eyes is, why is Claire kissing the quota "cute boy" as her dad lies there dead? I mean, sure, there's a painting of Mohinder pointing a gun at someone, but he's been doing that a lot lately and hasn't shot anyone. Could the cheerleader be HRG's killer? OR, could the shapeshifter have survived? Will Parkman's dad escape and create some bizzare dream in which superboy kills HNR and Claire kisses him? Let's not forget last season when he thought Hiro was going to fight a T-rex lol. -
Yeah, I was yelling there.
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It's just a case of unfortunate timing, is all.
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Your mother must be so proud. When's she due? "He's my brother. He's my son. He's my brother. He's my son." How do you KNOW that it's your kid, though? I mean, your mom is a pretty busy woman.
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Hahahahahaha, too great! As I was watching this with my friend, we both said that "Hiro's story needs to end TONIGHT" and by god it did, and how did it ever. Plus Peter leaving Irish McTalks-alot was cool. Hopefully they don't jump to her storyline too much.So now that we know that "Kensei" is "Adam" and that he's been controlling the situation from the beginning, does that mean he controlled last season's actions like Kring suggested????
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is a fucking pussy that should crawl back up his mother's cunt and die
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Why in the world would Sylar want HER power? I mean, when would that ever come in handy? Like he's ever going to cry lol.
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The Haitian Sensation erases memory; maybe Mama P is the opposite of it.
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I wonder what age Claire will begin to manifest her immortality.
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I'm just so, so hurt. I don't know HOW I'll recover. Go fuck yourself. I DIDN'T START THIS SHIT, YOU POLE-SMOKING PEDOPHILE. I DIDN'T INVITE ME HERE. YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH MY POSTING, BRING IT UP WITH THE ASS-LICKING MORON THAT WANTED ME TO EAT MY WORDS (WORDS THAT SAID THAT THE FIRST SIX EPISODES OF THIS SEASON SUCKED AND ONE GOOD EP DOESN'T CHANGE THAT). PERIOD. FUCK OFF.
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And the US Government requires my employer to give me 12 weeks of unpaid leave. My wife took off the first 5ish months, and I'm taking over until January.
We also saw the vial picture, and Nausicaa breaking down the door. So we've seen ... 5 so far, I think? "HRG" Dead, Mohinder armed, and one other remain (I think) -
Peter made the 'mind-reading' sound, so I'm guessing he just read all of her memories of him.
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Think about it. In X-Men Apocalypse was the first mutant...
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That could be how they will frame next week's episode: Hiro travels back four months in order to save his father. But for some reason, he cannot save his dad.
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Sadly, they didn't beat him.
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http://heroeswiki.com/Paintings#Season_Two (remove spaces)
6 paintings have been fulfilled (Claire dropping in front of the cheerleader was the other one). Only dead HRG and Mohinder firing remain. -
since I can't read the normal posts for fear of spoilers (west coast, I still gotta wait), yours are the only ones I can read. always a safe bet that ALL CAPS posts full of swearing and nonsense are delightfully spoiler-free. unless you count as a spoiler the fact that you coming back to this TB is about as pathetic as Paris Hilton in a spelling bee.“Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity” - Michel de Montaigne
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After almost fracturing time with Kensei, he's going to be super gun-shy about changing something that serious.
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You should definitely avoid my posts
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All I know is, Hiro's gonna have a breakdown when he finds out TAKEZO KENSEI killed his father! Irony, much? And speaking of breakdowns, they better not kill off the world's baddest soccer mom or Micah's gonna need therapy for the rest of his life. Although - He could be Monica's 'Robin'! Hmm...by the way, if you hadn't noticed yet I'm high on caffiene. :-)
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Kidding on the Highlander part... but does this mean Claire is immortal, too??
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That Takezo Kensei MURDERED Hiro's pops!?
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Remember, Claire "dies" if her brain is stabbed the right way. Kensei may have the same vulnerability.
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That was easily the best episode of the season. I'm glad they kept the twins out.
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Kensei probably remembered Hiro's last name. His first target was chosen deliberately.
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Kissing Peter? Hayden's gonna be so pissed. ;)
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Ok, so Murray probably received the Godsend(adoy!)-branded picture from Kensei and agreed to help in order to live.
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Is there a chance *she's* immortal, too?
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"Public opinion is a weak tyrant compared with our own private opinion. What a man thinks of himself, that is which determines, or rather indicates, his fate." - Henry David Thoreau.See, look, I can quote, too. Whoopee. I feel firmly confident in my assessment of the first six episodes of this season. I don't base them on whim, or fashion, or what the masses think, or what you or pursued_by_cock (in his dreams) thinks. I THINK them for myself.I stated as did others, including some at the TOP of THIS talkback, that the first six episodes of this season sucked. And they did. I continue to stand by that.Simply providing a nice "climax" and "revelation" to the rehashed plot doesn't solve the problems with the slow pacing, bad writing, and rehashed plotlines in the first six episodes.Good sex with the missus after six times of her cheating on you doesn't FIX the six times she cheated.So, at pursued_by_bear_cock's behest, I've returned here, though I had NO PLANS TO. NONE. ZIP. NADA. WROTE THE SHOW OFF AND DON'T REALLY GIVE A SHIT UNTIL THEY END THIS REHASHED VOLUME.It's nice that Kring could "slightly" improve on last season's poor finale with this episode, but a good term paper doesn't fix the six failing papers he turned in before.Let's end with another quote, shall we?"One should respect public opinion insofar as is necessary to avoid starvation and keep out of prison, but anything that goes beyond this is voluntary submission to an unnecessary tyranny." - Bertrand Russell.
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Think about it.
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Wasn't that what you were going to do? Make me eat my words? Did Claire climb out of a shower and see Bobby Ewing and realize that the last six shitty episodes were all a bad dream. No? Well, I'm still waiting, tough guy. Start making me eat them words. Come on. Let's do this thing.
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However, there were a couple "you're late" comments in prior episodes, so the idea that things could occur at different times was established (although in this case, it was early).
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that they change Noah's future. He's still the best character and actor the show has. I can still replay the "Your last thought" scene in my mind, so awesome it was, but if they do follow through and off him, they'd better make it in a way worthy of the character.
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they can't kill Kensai, so they'll have to "trap" him again.
They'll probably have Parkman lock him up in his nightmare, which will be him witnessing Hiro kiss the princess over and over and over again.
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I knew Tim Kring wasn't crazy (enough) to waste such villainous talent! Julian Sark returns! Next, Nichelle Nichols!
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I'm thinking: Kensei's own sword ramming into the back of his brain.
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I still don't trust Bob. I think Murray is on his side. He's purposely spreading the virus. Adam Munroe appears to be working with Peter to try and take down the company.
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An "[i]nternet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum or group with the intention of baiting users into an argumentative response."I'd, first, you piece of fucking shit, like for you to show me where I posted ANYTHING about HEROES "with the intention of baiting users into an argumentative response."I DEFINITELY started posting some trollish shit when your sad, silly little pathetic cock-loving ass started daring me to appear after whining like a little bitch about my being here a week or two ago. I'll grant you that. But N-O-T-H-I-N-G that I posted here criticizing THIS SEASON of HEROES SHITTY WRITING was intended to "bait users into an argumentative response."In fact, you mule dick smoking fucktard, I went to great lengths to explain exactly what I thought the problems were (no "THIS SHOW SUX!" comments) and the fact that I LOVED last season.So, you may "hate trolls," but your culo-licking ass wouldn't know a TROLL if it stuck its dick in your daddy's ass with you!I gave specific reasons why I thought this seasons first six episodes sucked and no good episode tonight retroactively fixes those episodes. PERIOD.In response, I got "just wait," "you don't like to read," and "you're just not a fan," ALL OF WHICH I WENT TO GREAT UN-TROLLISH LENGTHS TO PROVE.You know, until your frog-cunt-fingering ass spoke up, I might have been more than willing to be more than kind to this episode and MIGHT even have been willing to give Heroes another shot, but it's daddy-dick-loving fatuous fanboys like you who turn people off this show.No rationality. No distance. No intelligence. Just simple blind adoration. Kind of like an abused wife.I never acted trollish, simply voiced my opinions, defended them against the sophistry of your and others IGNORANT responses (I "don't like to READ"?!?!? WTF??!?!?), and left.YOUR STUPID INVITATION TO "MAKE ME EAT MY WORDS" IS WHAT INVITED MY RETURN. I would have been MORE than happy to let you jerk your grandpappy off in peace.So, go on. I'm waiting. Show me how tonight's episode makes ALL my other criticisms of the last six episodes invalid.Please. I'm dying to know and knowing how you "HATE TROLLS" I'm sure that you're just dying to do it.So go on.Do it.
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Nice try thought ;)
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NBC, you need a showrunner. Give me a call baby, we'll do lunch.
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Gonna make me eat my words, huh? Go away? Not in a million years, my friend. You invited me here. Remember? Let me refresh your memory.I want that troll
to come back here and eat his words. That's right, ECL, I'm talking to your gnarly ass."Remember? Huh? That sound familiar?How about this?"I FOR REAL hate those ignorant, roody-poo, candy ass morons who bash and bash and bitch and moan about a show and then fall silent when that same show returns to form and rocks mightily."That sound like you? Huh? Just a little? Well, I'm not silent now, smart guy. So when does your brilliant lesson on how to eat your words of criticism of slow pacing, bad writing, and a rehashed plot when the seventh episode is slightly better begin?I AM WAITING. HERE I AM. WHEN STARTETH THE LESSON?Remember this: "That's right, haters...eat cock."So go on. Make me eat cock with your brilliant essay on how today fixes yesterday. -
I'm bringing you on as a consultant. I like the cut of your jib!
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like I said before, were setting things up, and now finally the next five episodes are the big pay-off..again like was said before. I can't believe how no could see that.
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We better get a Reaper talkback tomorrow. I'm sick of Pushing Daisies getting TBs with a whopping 20 comments in them. Reaper needs a talkback, I mean, c'mon, Neil Cumpston was on last week!
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Whining like a pussy little bitch when you couldn't defend the shitty rehashed storyline ("why do you even bother us") and then talking BIG TOUGH TALK ("I FOR REAL hate those ignorant, roody-poo, candy ass morons who bash and bash and bitch and moan about a show and then fall silent when that same show returns to form and rocks mightily.") when I actually leave your ignorant piss-ant ass alone.Then when I take you up on your BIG LOUD FUCKING TAUNT, you suddenly don't want to talk again.Huh.Imagine that.A little pussy couldn't defend the shittiness and lagging ratings of the first six episodes, but suddenly talks real tough and loud when ONE HALFWAY DECENT EPISODE APPEARS and blusters around like some kind of dude who make other dudes eat words for breakfast.Then I show up and miraculously you don't want to go into your word eating lesson.I THOUGHT that you hated "haters" and wanted to make us eat our words?Was I wrong? Is it possible?For the record, once again, I'll state that this episode FINALLY got back to LAST SEASON coolness, but took SIX FUCKING SHITTY EPISODES to do it!I never said that they couldn't do it, did I? Nope.Never said that they wouldn't do it, did I? NO A-FUCKING-GAIN YOU COWARDLY LITTLE ANAL WART!I said that I wished the show and its fans the best and to let me know when volume 3 got rolling and I'd give it a shot then.And for that I get "hate trolls" and "make him eat his words" and FUCKING *I* AM THE DICK?Brother, you should spend three minutes reviewing your own trash-talking, make-you-eat-your-words threatening posts before you EVER call anybody else a dick, you pole loving inbred grandma fucking loser.
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Sylar could show up looking for Claire again disquised as her father and get shot in the eye.
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I'm surprised that it doesn't get more love by Herc/Coaxial, especially since Kevin Smith is a producer on it. Reaper is better than Chuck -- there, I said it. I like Adam Baldwin, but Ray Wise is cooler, in comparison. ... As far as ECL is concerned, I actually agreed with many of his problems with Heroes this season -- I just felt he hammered about them too much (honest, constructive criticism for the critic). I would argue that Heroes should NOT have spent six episodes "setting things up" this season. Remember: We had to sit through six lackluster-to-okay episodes before we finally got an episodethat was fun to watch. It shouldn't have been that way. I'm not expecting every episode to be stellar, balls to the wall excitement. But when aspiring screenwriters get lectured about how the scripts they write must be page-turners, where bad-ass shit has to happen every 3rd or 5th page, it just seems inexcusable that we the audience are expected to give TV series writers a pass, for several episodes, in order to "set up" plot points.
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Who the hell didn't see Kensei as the big bad for the season? Of course he's Adam. Adam was the first man, Kensei is the first superpower. Duh! Are the writer's on this show even trying? I mean, at all? Well, I guess not now with the strike on. That's probably the best thing that could happen to this show.
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You're Mister Bold Fucking Talker when you think you're by yourself, but you seem to have forgotten all about your plans to make me eat my fucking words, huh?Leave your lesson plan in the other car?YOU paged ME for this fucking lesson in word eating. Apparently, you're unable to fulfill your half of the proposal, huh? 'Cause, see, I'm here and you "want that troll to come back here and eat his words."So, I'm waiting to eat my words.I personally don't think you can do it since you yourself say "that same show [Heroes] *returns* to form and rocks mightily." Emphasis of ** added.You see, implicit in your own ham-handed threat is the statement that Heroes has NOT been what it was (thus, the *RETURN TO FORM*, motherfucker).So, if Heroes was less than what it was and didn't deliver on what it had, HOW THE FUCK IS THAT ANY FUCKING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I SAID WHEN I WAS "TROLLING?!?!?"
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is all the praise heaped on Twin Peaks of late (with the DVD release) juxtaposed with all the scorn heaped on Heroes' second season. Twin Peaks moved a lot slower than Heroes (well, except in the UK), yet not only was it tolerated, it was celebrated. Heroes takes six episodes to set up the half season, and we criticize it mercilessly. Why is that?
To frame the question differently: can you imagine if Twin Peaks came out today? Would it have reached a second season? Would it have gone the whole first season? Something tells me it wouldn't have.
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Quite original I tell you.
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This is between me and the dude that's gonna make me eat my words. You couldn't make me eat a ham sandwich if I was starving. I "must not like to read" my ass!
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Quite original I tell you.
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Nov 05, 2007 11:08:04 PM CST
chrth: Twin Peaks second season wasn't well-received...
by prof. pop-cult
I followed the show religiously during its original run back in 1990/1991. Viewers turned away in droves in its second season. But back then, there was no Internet for fans to commiserate and possibly express to the producers why the show was no longer compelling to watch. Now, the question: Would TP do well today? I find that question difficult to consider, because it's partly due to TP why we have many serialized, quirky, culty dramas on the air -- the show helped to make the idea of such shows more palatable to American TV viewers, I would argue. Without Twin Peaks, there might never have been X-Files, Buffy, Babylon 5, LOST, Veronica Mars, 24 and so on.
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Kensei could be used as a way to give Syler a healing ability without him having to kill Claire.
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Is that Max Headroom was the best fucking show ever and should've received all the glory that Twin Peaks did. It was just 20 minutes too soon.
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but hopefully we can all agree that they need to do something about the action direction in this show. Every scene wheneverthere is some sort of fight is SEVERELY lacking in genuine tension and suspense. It's always clearly staged and anti climactic. Take Hiro and Kensei's sword "fight" for example. Or greater still the finale.
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googling quotes is not quoting any more than watching baseball is the same as playing it.and since you like to google, google, "heroes 2.1 aintitcool badmrwonka" and see what I thought about the first episode this season. not exactly high praise. but I didn't use ALL CAPS, and I managed not to start any fights with anyone else.as for the writer's strike, I lost a couple meetings, but I've been day jobbing it doing almost solely editing. I can still WRITE during the strike, I just can't do anything with what I write. but oh boys do I have big news set for January. gonna be fun, I will let you know. for now, it's bowling, editing, writing, rinse, repeat.
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"[A]ll the praise heaped on Twin Peaks of late (with the DVD release)" is just that - praise heaped on Twin Peaks OF LATE. Twin Peaks was WIDELY scorned at the time for it's slow second season and, as a result, lost HUGE audience share week after week after week.Most of TP's praise today is a combo of "retro-lovin'" and the fact that one doesn't have to wait 15 episodes and ONE YEAR to have Laura's killer revealed - you can do it all in about three or four sittings. Twin Peaks slowness was NOT celebrated at the time by any but a VERY select few (see Heroes defenders for current examples).Twin Peaks got bounced around like a motherfucker by the network as it started to BLEED VIEWERS like crazy.I'm not one to criticize slowness (I LIKED Lynch's "Inland Empire"), but my problems with the first six episodes of Heroes wasn't slowness per se. It was that the earth-shaking events of last season ("save the cheerleader, SAVE THE WORLD") appeared to have no effect on the characters, that everyone was doing essentially the same shit that they were doing last year DESPITE revelations and reconciliations and that the plot seemed to be cut and paste from last year.Maybe when Heroes Season 2 hits DVD all will be forgiven - we can fast-forward through Eps 1-6, or at least do 'em in one or two sittings instead of a month and a half.As for your question concerning TP today and a second season, the answer is probably a resounding "YES!" TP pilot (aired on a Sunday and I remember it well) had great ratings (one of the ALL TIME highest rated pilots) and its first season (on Thursday nights) maintained much of the ratings though not all.After that, ABC bounced it around on the schedule and the resolution was extremely drawn out (and, to some, dissatisfying). This resulted in a drastic decline in ratings.The show was pulled. Then returned after a letter writing campaign. Then pulled again and the final two eps aired as an ABC movie of the week at the end of the summer. It was THAT bad.I sincerely doubt that Heroes is in ANY danger of that sort of treatment. Kring and Lynch are two VERY different characters.So, you seem to be setting up some sort of false criticism of today's audience as one that wouldn't have allowed Twin Peaks to continue.Twin Peaks Season One finale got a 12.6 and a 22 share.For comparisons sake, Heroes Season One finale got a 6.2 and a 15 share.So, yes, Twin Peaks numbers would DEFINITELY get it a second season since its first season finale almost DOUBLED Heroes first season finale.In terms of hype and marketing push though, there really is a lot of room to compare Heroes and TP. Both were media-saturated.See? No troll. Just talking.Fuck pursued_by_bear_cock!
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So, since my quotes showed up your quotes (and are from better sources), they're somehow NOT worthy. Nice try, but try harder.By the way, not googled -- Bartlett's sits on the shelf by my desk. My wife's a writer. ;) Nice try though.And I don't give a rat's fat ass what your opinion was of fucking Heroes. I need your thoughts like I need pursued_by_bear to suck my cock. Not at all.You provided some silly little quote implying that I "stupidly and ardently" stuck with my opinion that the first six episodes sucked (and they did and, I believe, you're implying that you concur with "not exactly high praise.") being proof of my stupidity. I replied with a few well-chosen quotes by Thoreau and Russell (whose books ALSO sit on a shelf near my desk).I can't help that I was brought here to post by your friend and fellow cock lover, pursued_by_idiocy.If my recent (episode or two ago?) posts offended him, that is because he is a witless little sycophant (gots me a real live THE-SAURUS, too!) who is too easily offended.I departed and was invited back explicitly by him. I did nothing in this talkback to offend him prior to his invitation, did I?Or is it too hard to use the CTRL-F feature to look back through the talkback and see if I say ANYTHING before that tiny dicked cat turd eater INVITED ME BACK.So, your argument that you "didn't use ALL CAPS, and managed not to start any fights with anyone else" doesn't really fucking apply to me, you giant idiot tool! I'm the one who was wantonly attacked ("eat my words" and "eat cock") when I wasn't even here and had departed on what I thought was a good note!Pursued_by_bear_cock (and lovin' it) brought me into this talkback because his widdle feewings was hurted by my criticism of the first six episodes as slow rehashs and wasted opportunities. Nonetheless, I departed with high hopes for the fans and a desire to be contacted when the show returned to form. (And, you, google-dick, can look THIS one up.)For this, I'm taunted with a never-to-be-fulfilled desire to make me eat my words.So, fuck off.YOU have offended me AND started an argument with me so you even lose on THAT point.Try harder though. You've got time. No job and all.On a side and more supportive note, I actually am supportive of you guys getting your just desserts from the studios and you can see my defense of you guys in the "STRIKE!" section on AICN. Good luck.
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It is too late for me, Hiro.
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Nov 05, 2007 11:47:37 PM CST
Wow, it's so obvious that my anger waxes and wanes...
by elvis cole lives
Throughout some posts. Like with BadMrWonka above. It's too late and I've got too much to do. Damnation, maybe Matt's dad is fucking controlling my brizz-ain.
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Wasn't pussified_by_cock supposed to be making me eat my words?I guess he's long on threat, but short on dick, huh?Well, I'm sure his mom's used to his minimal girth and length. She can "make do."Anyway, just wanting you to know that I'm still waiting to dig in, Big Talk "Hate Trolls" Man!
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Still not great by any means but considering how bad it's been this is a welcome relief from the pain. Now, if they had taken out all the, silly and/or unnecessary and/or unforgivably awful "filler" from the first six episodes and taken the 1.5 to maybe 2 hours of relevant "setup" material that remained and made that into a two hour season opener special and tnen made this (ep 2.7) into the 2nd episode of the season, there would've been far fewer complaints. Don't get me wrong, there were still some painful/bad bits here and there but no more so then what we had in any episode of Season 1. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the worst moments are behind us and that things are going to improve through the rest of the season. I'm also hoping that it's not too little too late... And did anyone catch who penned this?
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I definitely agree with your assessment of this ep (and generally with the rest of the season so far), but pussified_by_bear_cock will soon be calling you a troll and threatening to make you eat your words then running away and hiding when you respond.Or maybe you just shouldn't defend your opinion if he attacks it. Maybe that's what sets his passive(emphasis on ASS)-aggressive ass off.You're dead right, though. Had they dropped, say, half the material in the first six episodes and made THIS the third or fourth episode, MOST of the criticism wouldn't have had time to build.Ah, well! Coulda. Woulda. Shoulda.Here's hoping that Heroes keeps up the good work going into November and December and here's also hoping that pussified_by_his_love_of_bear_cock makes good on his promise to make me eat my words.
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Aren't you done fucking your mother yet? I want to be made to eat my "trollish" words.
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okay, it was (finally) a good episode. hopefully it will get much better next week. so both Claire AND Kensei's blood would work as a cure. anyone else? what exactly IS Mama Petrelli's power, btw? (nice scene with her and Peter) And Hiro finally becomes "Kensei", which we all just KNEW was coming, right? so is Kirsten Bell going to actually BE in this show? (I know, she's appearing next week) So who is Mo (hinder) gonna shoot? Nikki, Bob or HRG? (or someone else?) Well, here's hoping the Writer's get a good deal, and quick...(STRIKE!)
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Imagine, Maya getting all black eyed when shes suddenly injected with the virus. Maybe the virus mutates this way thru her powers... Why else would she be on the show?
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Imagine, Maya getting all black eyed when shes suddenly injected with the virus. Maybe the virus mutates this way thru her powers... Why else would she be on the show?
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Nov 06, 2007 12:22:43 AM CST
I guess ol' pussified_by_his_love_of_giant_bear_cock...
by elvis cole lives
Ain't havin' none tonight. Making me eat my words that is. He's having plenty of cock, just like he does every night and that's PROBABLY why he can't make good on his promise to make me eat my words. His daddy doesn't let him type with his cock in pussified's mouth.So with that, I'll note, for the last time, a definition (and this WAS a google search Wonkass)."An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum or group with the intention of baiting users into an argumentative response."I posted NOTHING in this talkback prior to pussified_by_his_love_of_bear_cock's desire to make me "eat my words" and to "eat cock." No swinging by to slam the show. No trollish derision. Nothing at all. Just left you to your show.Pussified_by_his_love_of_giant_slimy_bear_cock invited me here with a slam and a threat and then, poof, vanished! Sure seems that he "posted [his] controversial [and] contrary messages with the intention of baiting [ME] into an argumentative response" and then really NEVER made good in THREE HOURS on his promises and threats.So, WHO'S the TROLL again, pussified_by_his_love_of_daddy's_big_bear-like_cock? Huh? Who?
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but the last 8 might get delayed by the strike. And the first 8 end in a cliff hanger! Fuck! Give the writer's what they want! NOW!!
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People loved Sylar so much Kring and Co. made him stick around. Much like Julian Sark in Alias, who was planned to be killed off in Season One, but Anders won over so many people they made him a regular. Here's hoping they do the same thing on "Heroes"...
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I thought that there were only 13 eps this season, 13 the next, and 13 after that for a total of 42 episodes till the end. Right?
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no, 16 eps for each season for 48 total. (barring a prolonged strike, that is!) The title of the first ep is "The Beginning of The End." (Hmmm, prophetic much?)
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Looking forward to the new season especially knowing the end is in sight.
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Sigh. People like you make life not worth living. Notice how your comebacks are mostly insults and don't really make a new point other than to reiterate what you've already said. You're shouting to the heavens, man. Hope that helps you sleep at night. People are free to have their own opinions but the fact that you have to rub everyone's noses in yours says volumes for your character. Normally I would just stay out of this thing but people like you make me sick and I've had enough. Insinuating someone's mother is a slut? Changing pursued_by_bear's name so that it has homosexual connotations? What, have you written these all down in a notepad somewhere so you can look at it again later on and pat yourself on the back for how clever you are? Nice work. And I won't be looking at this talk back again to read your rebuttal (why give you the satisfaction?) but I'm sure you'll come back with something original like, "Figures you wouldn't want to read my response because you know I'd just make a better point," right? But don't let that stop you.
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So far, the news about what the strike will mean for Lost's return to ABC this winter isn't all that bad, but it could get worse if the picketing persists. According to Lost executive producer Carlton Cuse — who was walking the picket line Monday in front of Burbank's Disney lot with fellow EP Damon Lindelof — ABC will soon have eight episodes in the can that it can begin airing after the first of the year (ABC has yet to announce a start date, though it seems likely the show will return in February). If the strike is prolonged and the scribes can't get back to work writing the rest of the episodes, fans are going to be stuck with the kind of stunted season they were forced to endure last year. "It will feel like buying a Harry Potter book, reading half of it, and then having to put it down for many months," explains Cuse. "There is a cliffhanger at the end of the eighth episode. It will only be frustrating [for viewers] to have to step away from the show and not see the second half of the season.
"The first half of the season, like a good novel, sets all the events of the show in motion and the second half deals with the consequences," Cuse continued. "We're very proud of the first eight but it feels weird to have to stop literally mid-stream."
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About time we finally get an episode that kicked ass! Looks like patience paid off, all the storylines they've been weaving are finally coming together! Hiro is back in the present, no Wonderless Twins or Maya this week, Peter's memory loss is finally over.....and that awesome ending!! I had hoped Kensei would end up in the present somehow, so freakin glad they did it! Next week looks even better!
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GREAT reveal of Kensei at the end of the episode! Finally, after the time-keeping 'decompressed storytelling' of the first couple of shows this season, the pieces are falling together (except for the Sylar/Twins plotline--- wild card element?). Looks like another run of strong episodes coming up...
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Nov 06, 2007 12:58:26 AM CST
Fuck, d(ick)w(ad)120, you HAD to go and start it up again
by elvis cole lives
Really? Really? That's it, huh?Well, if your life isn't worth living because of people like me, far be it for me to prolong the suffering.Since it's not worth living, why don't you just die? Please. Just shoot yourself. Or take some pills. Or jump off a bridge. Or a building.Yes, I "notice how your comebacks are mostly insults and don't really make a new point other than to reiterate what you've already said." I "notice" that because I'm the one writing them. "Notice" how pussified_by_his_love_of_daddy's_bear_cock started this by making some threats then refused to make good? You "notice" that, too, with all your "noticing?"I'm "shouting to the heavens," but what helps me sleep at night is the tiny little hope that in some small and maybe insignificant way something that I do can contribute in some way to your killing yourself. THAT'S what helps me sleep at night.What fucking NOSE RUBBING have I done you giant fucking assmonkey? Again and for the cheap fucking seats, you retarded nose picker, I WAS INVITED HERE BY YOUR FELLOW POLE-SMOKER, PUSSIFIED_BY_HIS_LOVE_OF_DADDY'S_BEAR_COCK!!!!Explain to me how his threats to make me eat my words and implication that I've skulked away (when I skulked away so as NOT to be trollish) and telling ME to eat cock is somehow fucking MY MISTAKE!!!EXPLAIN THAT YOU TURTLE-FUCKING DICK-SMEG!In what way did I "rub everyone's noses" in my opinion, needledick!I haven't been here until YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD AMOEBA DICK CALLED ME!I left on a well-wishing note a week or two ago after stating MY OPINION, DEFENDING IT, and WISHING YOU GUYS WELL!!!So your fucking idiotic lack of ability to read or review or, hell, even to look and see who started the shit-talking in this one "says volumes for YOUR nut-guzzling character."Again, if I make you so sick, then don't bother reading. If I really make you so sick by being offended that some jerkwad tool-licker talks shit about me, threatens to make me eat my words, tells me to "eat cock," then why don't you do ME and YOU a favor and just END IT ALL NOW?Shoot yourself. Drink some poison. Take some pills. Open a vein. I don't care. Just do it.I really don't care if you've "had enough" until I see some action. Just DO it."Insinuating someone's mother is a slut" (and that's an incestuous slut, actually, 'cause I implied that she fucks pussified) and "changing pursued_by_bear's name so that it has homosexual connotations" weren't "written down in a notepad somewhere." I can think quickly enough to come up with these ALL on the fly.Speaking of "on the fly," guess where your buddy's lips are right now! That's right! Daddy's button fly!But I am glad to see that you appreciate the effort ("nice work," right?).I don't give a shit whether you'll be reading this talkback or not. Hopefully, you'll have saved us all the trouble of troubling you and making you sick and "forcing" you to leap into a fight which isn't(???? hi, pursued) yours.Don't let the fact that you won't be reading this (dw120/pussified_by_daddy's_big_bear_cock) stop YOU. Go ahead and make with the ending.Pretty please.
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I'm pretty used to ignoring anything I don't care for though. Plus I couldn't compete with most of the trash talkers who post on AICN so I wouldn't even try.
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I REALLY don't like to get all trash talking and name calling, but I really don't have ANY idea why dw120/pussified is calling me out. Well, okay, it *IS* a little funny (the names make me giggle).Now, I mean, I can understand FINALLY being thrilled that Heroes returned to form and hit a good solid triple, but you'd think I *HAD* insulted his mother when I stated a talkback or two ago that Heroes was bombing, dragging, slow, rehashing plots, etc.Same shit that some of the people in THIS talkback have said, but ol' dw120/pussified couldn't be bothered with threats to them. See, they're actually here. Ol' dw120/pussified thought I wouldn't show up here so he was free to threaten to make me eat words although that's IMPOSSIBLE because, while tonight was a DAMNED sight better than before, it still doesn't change the fact that 1-5 sucked, 6 was okay, and 7 was good.7 can be good from NOW till Judgment Day and it still doesn't change the fact that 1-5 were VERY sub-par.I'm super glad that Heroes is picking up and finally drawing viewers in and paying off some stuff. Really. Very glad. But I never thought that they wouldn't.In fact, I'm pretty sure that I said that I hoped Kring paid off the Season 2 plot by learning from the mistakes of the Season 1 climax. It appears he may have and mores the better.As before, here's hoping Heroes continues the upwards climb and, God knows, pussified_by_his_love_of_daddy's_bear_cock will find a way to make even THAT sentiment sound trollish!
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It's not that Maya has anything to do with the virus...It's that her brother is the CURE. Or Sylar, after he kills him. ;)
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Pussified? Any takers? Any? 'Cause dw120 was "forced" to jump in to some shit between me and pussified and I've NEVER seen the guy around and AICN searches don't really show him either. Pussified is there, but not ol' dw120. Hmmm, concerned citizen who "just can't take it anymore" or pussified? You be the judge.
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Right. Peter and Nathan's dad......whose symbol was the same as Kensei's, who supposedly "killed himself", who worked closely with Linderman, who Angela Petrelli is protecting...etc. etc.
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Maybe Maya "kills" the carrier thus killing the virus then the brother revives the character sans virus? Maybe. I know -- "weak," but, hey, I'm not threatening to make anyone eat his words (or cock) so there's that.
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...I got your back. Apparently, you're not allowed to criticize a show you obviously enjoyed greatly at one point. We were all the same at the beginning of S2, disappointed in that SHITTY S1 finale, but hopeful for the new season. Then the first ep hit. Then the second. By the third ep those of us not myopic enough to swallow whatever kool-aid Kring was serving were voicing our dissatisfaction. This brought out the fanboys like zooch and pursued_by_bear, who even used the assinine "S1 started slow, so give S2 a break!" fanboy mantra. Eps 5 and 6, to me, weren't as painful as the firt four, marginal improvement at best, though. Ep 6, finally, didn't outright suck, though I was bored through the first half hour. So there's no fucking, "
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Nov 06, 2007 1:29:45 AM CST
You know, d(ick)w(ad)120 (how many you've swallowed?)
by elvis cole lives
Or pussified. Or whatever. I'm stunned, reading back over this very talkback at some of the shit that's said about Heroes, and Kring, and the writers, and firing them, and the CONTINUED downward slide, but all this "word/cock feeding vitriol" was saved for ME who said far less with far less vehemence in other talkbacks. What gives? You still mad 'cause I "outed" you and your daddy. Nothing else makes any sense when you look at your "eat his words-hate trolls" post compared with what I've said about Heroes and what's been said in this very talkback. Pussified much?
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to finish my thought....there is no fucking "I told you to be patient". This ONE very good ep doesn't make up for the past crap we've been fed. The best thing about this ep, by fucking far, is that Hiro is done in fucking feudal southern california. THANK GOD. Wow, Sark is the big bad? Umm, hasn't everyone been saying that since he showed his power? And it's Peter that kills Hiro's dad.
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And TOTALLY agree with your episode assessment (veritasses, too, and even bacci40). The shows improving (FINALLY!), but, damn, you'd think that TWO OR THREE talkbacks ago I'd impugned his dead sainted mother or some shit. I mean, seriously, a LOT worse has been said in THIS talkback that he ignored. Thanks again, man!
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So um... you seem to know what's going on so it's safe to assume you've been watching throughout the season. If you're so against the show then fuck off, watch something else and stop bothering us with your non-sense sermons. I try to read through your posts and it's sorta like listening to a baby make noises... just because the occasional sound might come across as a word that makes sense it's still just baby talk. I know I speak for the majority of people here when I say no one really cares what you think... In reality i'm sure it's a clever guise... In reality i'm sure you're annoying your mother 10 minutes before Heroes starts because you want to be sure the popcorn is ready. In reality people like yourself don't exist. It's pretty obvious you have little/no "real-world" credibility, instead creating your own "Jessica" in the form of an idiot talkbacker. Feel free to type your big boy (girl??) words in my direction. It'll hurt. I know this and i'm bracing for the impact. But I guess even after your vicious assault Heroes is still on the air.. so maybe i'll make it...
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Isn't it amazing how feudal Japan looks in NO WAY like Southern California? Fucking "guns" my ass! LOFL. Peter kills Hiro's dad? Really? Nice call. I can see that. Wow, definitely could be a possibility. Huh. Good one. You gots me thinking here.
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...cuz i'm in...wait for it...Las Vegas. Though I do have access to a 4pm PST feed of the show. I might start watching that so I can participate in a more timely manner with the *true* fans of the show and the kool-aid drinkers.
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...how do you make paragraph breaks in this shitty forum?
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Yes, he knows he munged up the space-time continuum by going back to feudal So. Cal, but it doesn't seem realistic for him not to go back to try to save his dad. Hopefully, the next episode will address this and plausibly dramatize why Hiro's attempt to save his dad will not work.
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If you're so stupid that you think I'm "against the show" then why don't you "fuck off," dear? "Watch something else?" Why tonight, I did, as a matter of fact. Caught bits and pieces of the end of last night's ep AFTER my movie.If you read through my posts and it's sort of like a baby making noises, then you just can't read very well. If it's "baby talk" to you, then don't read it at all. Or you have extremely limited visual comprehension skills. EXTREMELY limited.It didn't concern you at all, bitch. It concerned me and pussified.Wait a minute. Are you pussified's mom?Are you trying to stand up for him while he sticks it to you?Awww, that's so sweet. Sort of. In a very sick, inbred, West Virginny way. But sweet nonetheless.I personally don't give a flying FUCK WHO you speak for and what you care about. As long as I can post and want to, I will. Especially when I receive an invitation from that tiny dicked motherfucker who's sticking it in your warty, slime-oozing ass right now, your son, pussified_by_his_love_for_daddy's_bear _cock.We're not all like the love of your loins, pussified. We don't all "annoy our mothers 10 minutes before Heroes starts because you want to be sure the popcorn is ready." By the way, are you still dripping that Cooze Juice on it for him the way he likes it? That shit always smelled like rotten tuna to me, but he never could get enough of your "sweet" nectar could he?But you're 100% correct - "[i]n reality people like [my]self don't exist." I must just be a figment of your imagination.I guess you've had a lot of practice with your imagination. Wishing somebody besides your son was spurting on your face. Hoping. Praying.But still lovin' every juicy drop of it.Yeah, *I*m the "Jessica." Wow, I guess that makes your boy the "Peter" 'cause he's up and disappeared after making all KINDS of promises and threats. I bet you call him that, too -- Peter."Oh, Peter, sweet, sweet Peter. Do me like my daddy used to!"You're a giant idiot if you think I've had any vicious assaults to get Heroes off the air. You are a giant MORON who cannot even read the above posts wishing Heroes well and congratulating them on a return to form. GIANT. FUCKING. IDIOT.In fact, you're just about as big an idiot as that fanny fuck boy of yours, pussified, the man who WON'T stand up for himself.I hope that YOU, a(ssh)o(le)33 (33, is that the number of dude's you've had up there at once?), realize how sad, silly, and stupid that YOU sound based on what you've just said and what I've posted here and in previous talkbacks.I know it hurts to have people talk so bad about your boy, but if you'd just stop making him eat the jizz out of your ass then maybe he'd turn out okay.
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Show up. Losers. And still I don't have to "eat my words" or "cock." Wow, Maw and Paw sho' must've tow that ass up on ol' Pussified tonight! He was so busy gurgling Daddy's jizz outa his Momma's ass that he done didn't have no time to make me "eat my words." Oh, well! What's a cock loving country boy to do! Good night, guys. See you tomorrow and congrats on an improved season!
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We have lost Midget Mac but we get Bhudda back. NY is making some horrible choices this season. Also why do all you geeks say cock so much? Its like a gay porn convention in this TB. As far as Heros I agree with everything Bacci40 said, didnt we all see the Kensai reveal coming weeks ago?
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Yeah, I was thinking odd thoughts when Parkman told Molly he loved her. But you know what? I think the writers/producers are being very earnest about it, no irony at all. (Same thing with Parkman and Mohinder's subtextual gay living/bickering relationship.) They are simply two dudes who both have come to genuinely care for the well-being of a little girl. It's been established Parkman wanted to be a father, and now is one to Molly. They're not related by blood, but they share being gifted. I think what makes this all seem "weird" is because there have not been many depictions in the media (entertainment and news) of unattached, straight men as caregivers to children in recent years. Instead, we've been disillusioned by news and dramatizations of perverts. And if two men are living together, and bickering, they gotta be gay lovers, right? If anything, this trio's relationship is a throwback to a time when there were TV sitcoms featuring single dads, and wacky male roommates (e.g. The Odd Couple). Maybe to help offset any uneasiness that some viewers may have, they should have Parkman hook up with Nikki. (I think they could make a good couple -- like a Heroesverse version of Mr. and Mrs. Smith.)
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Just an idea: It could be cool to have an adult version of Molly, who comes to the present and remains in the present. I'm not saying get rid of the young actress who plays the character now, but keeping both around. (Or this could be done with Micah.) It's a gimmick to age a child character quickly, in order to get rid of the hassle of dealing with a very young actor (or baby). But on a show like this, you can have both versions (child and adult) of the same character on at once.
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Seriously, man. You have amad abundantly clear that you disliked the first 5 episodes. Apparently some people were under the impression you were bashing the show past, present and future episodes, and the were excited that a good episode aired and wanted to rub your nose in it. Now the rest of us have to wade through your vile rantings to share our thoughts about the show (good or bad). These people don't know you - and you don't know them - all any of you know is what is written on these forums, and making character judgments and insulting based on a few typed phrases is bordering on insanity. It's like hating someone who cuts you off in traffic - yeah, it's annoying, but do you really need to follow them home and piss on their lawn? - Just flip em off and get on with your life. I would suggest printing a copy of the whole forum and taking it to any reasonable person and telling them you are Elvis - I promise you every single one of them will think you are deranged. Try showing it to your wife - the WRITER. I would be interested to see what SHE thinks of your Talk Back prowess. I suspect she might be a bit disturbed at what she reads.
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The only spot that really drove me nuts was how easy Mohinder spilled the beans on HRG. And how quickly he picked up the gun. However, and this would go against his character, perhaps it's still part of their 'master' plan of taking the company down. That would mean that Mohinder would suddenly 'get' smart...quite a stretch.I do have to say that I think the best scenes have been with Parkman and his confrontations with his dad. Now that we got to Adam in the present (after next week's ep that is), hopefully the show has taken the turn to being good again.
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He holds a grudge a long time, it seems like he spent his days tracking down anyone with abilities, just waiting for the day when he finally found Hiro and could have his revenge.
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who has bashed the show these past few weeks has realized that those first six episodes as slow as they were had to happen in order to set the stage for what happens the rest of this season and beyond. Look, I understand some people aren't very patient but it's not fair to bail on a show or movie or to say it sucks while it's setting the status quo. I watch wrestling and I collect comics and the majority of the time the storylines suck but every so often something cool comes along and your not some johnny come lately jumping on a bandwagon just because it's deemed cool at the moment. Bottom line, maybe you should judge the show at the end of the season once the whole story is told.
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Just saying, the show is getting really good.
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About time. Great to see how they can tie up a loose end by "accidentally" leaving the Irish chic in the future. That's gotta suck.
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Now that she is in the future, obviously she stays there but what happens when Peter and company fix the past? She'll be stuck in the future knowing Peter dropped her there. I guess she can try to look him up after she gets deported back to Ireland to see what happened to him the past or if he still alive.
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can sure use a starring role where she gets nude and fucked. im so horny!
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Netwok was forcing major rewrites to end the season with the December 3 episode, Kring walked. Looks like NBC is basically flushing the show due to it's poor performance this season... pulling a Fox, in other words. It's over, guys. Too bad... in last night's ep things were starting to pick up somewhat... Dumbfuck NBC suits! Corporations ruin everything! Vive le revolucion!
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Yeah, this is the worst TB I've ever read. Keep your dumbass off
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talk about a jerk and ruining a good discussion
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Will you douchebags take your pissing match somewhere else? For God's sake get a fucking life. You're bitching at each other.....over a show. You will never meet each other ever. If you want to continue the pissing match, kindly exchange emails and do it there. Then after one of you has triumphed in a grand internet victory, come back and discuss the show.
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Actually I thought it was a nod to Highlander when Kensei asked Hiro if he was going to try to chop his head off.
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Writing was better overall this episode. Still can't forgive the showrunners for using up six episodes to tell what could have been told in three. I'm also reluctantly going along with the show's major story crisis -- the virus -- even though I think there are other better directions the show could be going.
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Props to her for actually doing something about something she believes in. For those of you who haven't seen it, look for the vid of he actually swimming out with some other people to stop a Japanese boat from killing baby dolphins. The guys on the boat swing a huge hook at them, and the Cheerleader actually tries to hang in there for awhile. Props to her for making a stand.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=mCEY5T3qRS8 your welcome. no sound though
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it was on youtube and its from a movie so im pretty sure im safe
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OK so mama P has the power of suggestion? Awesome use of her powers. Bet she was controlling Nathan quite a bit. Matt rocked! I don't want to talk about the tears that my have been shed. Adam is Kensie.. I've heard that one before... Now, bet he is also Elle's dad. bear - no idea why they aren't using Sybrows as much as possible. Seems silly. We have this actor that is leaving in October to film a movie... lets use him as little as possible. Just ignore the trolls. Don't fall into their pathetic negative trap. Gray - I agree, of course as I've been saying it for the past 5 episodes, and hope the writers haven't set up a whole bunch of nothing. The strike may put a kink in things. :( Don't have time to read the whole tb right now. Will be back in a bit. Class phht.Wonka - so happy to see you! Now what did you think of the episoe? love the pic - your "cool" pose. ;)
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Dude, needs to kill himself if he's that fucking hurt over a show.
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It couldn't have been more stolen.
"there is good in you"
"I can't kill you"
"Let me save you"
Don't forget last year that the dead cheerleader in Issac's painting wasn't Claire. The chances of the guy with a bullet in his eye actually being HRG, is possible, but not probable.
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This episode was the best so far this season. Lots more action, more resolution, better logic, and many characters had a chance to show their essential nature. Nathan returns to form as the leader and the brains of the Heroes, grilling Bob the same way he grilled Linderman in the past, and refusing to put up with bullshit, pointing out that Bob, Linderman, his Mom, all talk in half-truths and obsfucations. Parkman fights back against his father and shows his true Heroes colors by stopping the old man, saving Molly, and protecting Bob and the Company from Adam Munroe's "blunt instrument". Peter shows again that whiole he is powerful, he is confused and less in control of his powers than the other Heroes. This may prove to be the limiting factor for Peter: he has many abilities, but has difficulty controlling them. Mama Petrelli shows up alive in the future, which shows the character's continuing toughness and mysterious capability. When will her powers be revealed? Hiro finally stops talking and takes decisive, heroic action. He risks his own life to try and give the narcissistic Adam Munroe/Kensai a chance at redemption, but Munroe chooses the path of power and evil over righteousness. Hiro and Munroe get into a real showdown in the gunpowder tent, and Hiro shows his chops as a swordsman, disarming and defeating "Kensai", and teleporting out at the last possible moment before the explosion, while Munroe vows to take vengeance on Hiro. Good stuff. Adam Munroe is set up to be a true enemy to Hiro in the future, and he seems to be good at conning other people (Bob, the Company, the First Generation, Peter). Will Munroe dupe Peter and turn him into a weapon against his friend Hiro? Also, Hiro's Princess makes the point that we have been waiting for: that Hiro is the great Kensai, Munroe is an imposter and a fake, and Hiro will go down in history as the Hero he grew up idolizing. Finally, Claire seems to be setting in motion the undoing of her father by following West's lead, getting in the papers, and bringing their enemies down upon them. Also, we got to see Nikki do her thing, kick Mohinder's ass, and punch through a door under the influence of Parkman's Dad. Overall, the episode was well-written, well-directed, and swept away a lot of the sluggish story-telling we have had so far this season. We got a lot of story and a lot of action concisely done in a rather good episode. Hopefully, this will mark the end of the sophmore slump, and the rest of the season will move along at a good clip.
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Hell hath no furry like a lover scorned. Kensei will own all. Maybe Nathan will have to pick him up and fly him to outer space. :-/
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seriously that guy needs to find something to do other than come on here, bash a great show, make gay comments on anyone who talks his way, and posts re-iterated shit until fucking dawn. get a life guy or girl? nobody really cares what you think, coming on here and talking the way you do, it does nothing, so go find another site to talk shit about heroes. i cant wait for you to tell me how gay i am too right? or that im a pussy right? well if you lived in scranton, pa. i would find you and whoop the shit out of you!
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Last week was a bit...weak, but last night's ep was pretty damn good, with next week looking even better.
Sure it's a little silly, but it's fun -with good, charming actors, clever writing and decent action.
Thought this one would be a bigger hit, though it seems to be doing ok ratings wise last I heard.
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went on strike at the end of the first season
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ZING! Guess what, buddy, you're only about the 80th person to say that in this thread. You're like the TalkBack version of Carlos Mencia.
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You're not alone. Chuck isn't going to be winning any awards but it's solid entertainment and I actually look forward to watching it. Good writing, directing, cast etc. And a good mix of characters. Adam Baldwin, Harry Tang, Capt Awesome, the Indian tech and the other Buy More crew. And the Hot Chick is good too. Doesn't go overboard or showboat, plays vulnerable and tough well, not annoying. Not many actresses could pull that off. Ditto for the guy playing Chuck. That's not an easy role to pull off.
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best episode of the season so far. Obviously the Mia power exists to kill Adam Monroe, since it can kill the devil.Does Mama P. restore memories, or simply implant memories, real or fictional? Planting false memories would be an interesting power.While I didn't like Nikki with Micha, I did like her as the evil assasin. Jessica vs Parkman was a fun episode, and I would have liked to see her vs Clair or vs the Taskmaster girl. I hope she comes back as part of a team of bad heroes.I would also note and theorize that "special people" have some sort of pheremone or something that instinctively attacts them to eachother, and that is why West and Claire found eachother and also why Noah was so concerned about Claire finding a boyfriend. He knows she won't be attracted to "normals". Next week looks major kick-ass too.One last thing, if the Heroes makers listened to fans, that means they saved budget & a showdown for the season finale, which will likely not be made.
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Every time I tune into that show I can't help but think I'd rather see Adam Brody in the lead role. Maybe it's the identical hair or the Josh Schwartz connection.
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My fingers aren't cooperating with my brain.
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yeah, i kinda figured. Who has time to read 400 talk back postings?
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OK...I have supported this show from day 1 and defended the season ender from Season 1 a LOT. And I have been patient this season. Last night, I asked a question of the Heroes "team" glommed onto my 61 inch Sony HDTV "anyone NOT know who Adam Monroe is?" Not a single hand. *** SPOILER *** So the big 'reveal' at the end was absolutely nothing. And frankly, Mohinder is a pussy. THAT comment was universal at my house. Lastly, how stupid is HRG? Heck, the entire cast for that matter. This is almost some sort of bad reboot of Season 1, except it SUCKS! Man, can't believe I just said Heroes sucks. I had a whole lot more fun and enjoyment from Chuck and Dancing With The Stars than Heroes. The apocalypse is upon us....*SIGH*
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How shitty it was that Mohinderkin Skywalker turned to the darkside so quickly and spilled the beans about HRG...I know he felt he was doing right but it seemed to rushed.
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Mohinder is HRG's killer... I think West is a red herring, were all meant to believe West does it... but from the paintings it all adds up to Mohinder shooting HRG with a company issued gun. Probably acting under NightmareParkmans influence (lets not fall into the trap of "Oh he can't be, he's trapped now" idea either) it makes sense, he's going after the cheerleader for the company he now believes is doing the right thing, he has the company issued gun, Claire and "West" are in the painting Kissing.. does that mean they did it? (I doubt Claire is the "lets kill daddy" type).. or does that mean west was comforting her after his death? (a little more likely).. BTW Kensei is immortal/can heal himself.. sound familiar?. What are the odds of Adam Munroe having a branch in every heroes family tree, and therefore having some or ALL of the heroes powers.... if that's true, I can't wait for a Peter Petrelli V Kensei smackdown.
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My wife actually thinks its funny (if a bit childish), but I promise YOU, if you don't fucking want my responses THEN DON'T FUCKING WRITE TO ME! IS THAT REALLY SO FUCKING HARD?Doogie, just go fuck yourself. Really is that so fucking hard? What business is this of yours? No invectives for your cock smoking pal, huh? Just me, huh?HE drags me back in this shit, but it's MY fault. Well, if you don't want to wade through my "vile rantings" here's some ideas.1. Don't address me. You'll notice that I wasn't here and posting until invited. If you don't want to hear from me, don't write me (as you and he DID).2. Don't read them, genius. You'll notice that every post I write comes complete with my name on the top in the "by" section. Just try NOT reading them, bright boy. Or is that too much to figure out?3. And, hey, this one may be too much for someone of your "vast" intellectual prowess, but drop it and stay out of it. It wasn't your business to begin with and I'd gone on to other shit.But why don't you print YOUR stuff out, take it to your boyfriend, tell him you're Doogie, when he stops butt-fucking you say "no, I said I was Doogie not 'I like doggie'" and then have him read THIS. Perhaps he'll wonder why you bothered drawing out someone who'd pretty much gone off into the ether ONCE A-FUCKING-GAIN by wishing the show all the best. "Seriously, man, why?"Whether or not someone was "under the impression" that I was "bashing the show past, present and future episodes" and "were excited that a good episode aired and wanted to rub your nose in it" is NOT MY FUCKING FAULT. Whatever inbred delusions that you and Pussifed_By_Bear-Cock are under is NOT MY FAULT; I've never met the dude (although, funny story, I did pay his mom to fuck a mule once). Therefore, blaming ME for HIS delusional rants and threats and continued taunts, is NOT RATIONAL, Rational Boy-fucker!And, if that's what he wanted (to "rub my nose in it," he sure as hell jumped the fuck outa the pool, now didn't he?So, let me get this straight again, 'kay? I depart a week or two ago having (LIKE OTHERS A-FUCKING-BOVE IN THIS TALKBACK, YOU TWAT-SCUZZ) criticized the first five eps and having given the sixth one a 'meh' and having defended my postions with an extreme MODICUM of any name-calling. I then wished the show and its fans well and asked that ororo or bacci or someone inform me when it returned to form. I subsequently departed with NO INTENTION of posting in any Heroes talkback, but "drove by" to see what the reception was to last night's ep since I only caught bits and pieces and the end.In this "drive by" to gauge audience reception, I read said desire to "rub my nose in it" and make myself very available. Said desirer suddenly VANISHES after making his desires known, pops back up ONCE to talk some shit, sends his demented, incestuous fucking parents to berate me (AFTER I'm on to other subjects, btw) and *I*M "bordering on insanity."What are you, an imbecile?"[M]aking character judgments and insulting based on a few typed phrases is bordering on insanity?" Martha Stewart or Emily Post meets Doc Freud? Is that who you think you are? Awww, that's cute. But try harder next time, a fourth grader could see through this analogy."[H]ating someone who cuts you off in traffic" is imperfect at best and downright faulty.How about someone at your work talking shit when you're not in the room, huh, Martha Freud? How 'bout that one, huh? How 'bout using the analogy of you walking by an office in your office on a day you SAID you'd be out of the office and hearing your co-worker (to whom you'd never had any but cordial disagreements) talking about how he "hates you" that you're a "trollish" co-worker and that if you were only there that day he'd "rub your nose in your words" and "make you eat 'em."Then imagine that you stick your head in the office and say, oh, yeah, you cocksmoking son of a bitch, well, start the feeding 'cause here I am!NOW imagine that he hauls ass and hightails it outa there, but you CONTINUE to hear the jizz guzzlin' chucklehead talk shit about you to others in the office while refusing to make good on his promise and threat.THEN consider he's sends his "close knit" (that means "kin fucking" in WV) family to defend him.You just gonna drop it or you gonna call that motherfucker out every chance you get until he either makes with the "word feeding" or apologizes for talking shit that he couldn't back up or defend. THAT'S THE FUCKING ANALOGY, BALL LINT!People in cars are driving 70 miles an hour and, by the time that they realize their mistakes or that THEY were in the wrong, it's often too late to correct them or they just don't want to. In this case, this board is STILL in the exact same place that it was last night.That PEA-BRAINED POODLE POKER could EASILY have said that he'd reread my original posts, reread his own, realized that I *DIDN'T* wish Heroes ill and said "my bad, dude." That fucking simple.I do it all the time. Especially if it galls me to have to say sorry and sometimes if the offense wasn't that big in my eyes it's "my bad, dude, I know you didn't want the show to fail and I came off wrong in my exuberance."But did we see that? Nope. Just pussified, his mammy, his pappy, and you leaping to the defense of someone who sideswiped someone else's car then taunted as he drove around in circles. Yeah, that's MY fault.And I promise YOU, Doggie Fuckwitzer, you have no idea what "every single [reasonable person] will think" because you're obviously not reasonable yourself. Injecting yourself into another conversation that blames the attacked one for the attack is NOT reasonable.You the kind of tool that blames rape victims because of their attire? Gee, lady, maybe you shouldn't have worn such a revealing sweater; you made him think it was okay to attack you and "rub your nose in it." (See, in THAT analogy, I'm the "lady," my arguments are the "sweater," the attacker is pussified and the rationale is ALL YOURS.)Now, I know I'm no rape victim here (pussified doesn't have the balls especially when he likes daddy's dick so much), but that's what analogies are FOR, to create examples that more easily show relationships. And in this one, Doggie Fuckwitzer, you're the dude who defends the attacker because of what was in the poor widdle attackers mind."It's not Pussified's fault, ladies and gentleman of the jury, that he threatened to choke someone; he misunderstood them two weeks ago and he was REALLY excited this week." Yeah, that flies, Capt. Reasonable.
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popsicles.
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Bitches. :)
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You'd have to pull your dick out of that dog first. Nobody bashed a great show. See, bashing was what I did to pussified (oh, and your mom) last night. I *NEVER* bashed Heroes and went to great lengths to explain my love for the show. So you must be so abso-fucking-lutely dumb that you can't even read. How sad? Your boyfriend type that for you? Aww, you live in Scrotum, PA? Must be very nice. LA is lovely this time of year. Please come visit me sometime.
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This shit is pretty funny. Even reading my own stuff (although the LOGIC never fails), I sure as shit do get heated sometimes. And they sure as shit DO go on and on and on and on... Oh, well, until I'm drawn out again, it's back to work. -- somebody's gotta keep pussified's mom on that street corner. If not me, who? If not now, when?
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CONTINUES TO EXCEL AND IMPROVE!!! It's FINALLY back!Is that unclear, Dread, Stemp, Doogie, dw120, ao33, and pussified? You not understand that, you ignorant fucks?
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and the excuse that they were needed to set up what happens next doesn't excuse the fact that the writing was subpar. and for the record, this isn't bashing, it's called an opinion... opinions are like assholes, don't fuck with mine (token homophobe statement)... here's my quote "no one ever expects the spanish inquisition" - monty pythons flying circus
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He's just a blowhard cunt with a stiff prick for paragraph breaks. Although the cocksucker might do well to practice his fuckin' typing someplace else.
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should be the world ending with just Sylar surviving in the end
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According to Kristin or Wanda or whatever her name is. Apparently, she's talked to an NBC spokesperson who said that this is completely NOT true.And, Al, stop dreaming about my stiff prick and keep both YOUR hands on the keyboard. I swear, you're just not yourself since your show got canceled (but I loved it anyway).
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I can't believe I'm the only one who wasn't blown away by that episode. It was better, but not by all that much. Japan still looked lame, Hiro is still a cliche of S1 Hiro, homo bf is still around, and the dialogue and resolution to the parkman thing was awful. Also, no cool powers used, nothing really to stoke me up, and the reveal was meh (who didn't see that coming?). Better, but still not sold on the season. Next week looks killer though.
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How about I throw you off my fuckin' balcony? Would that make me seem like my fuckin' self?
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Get the fuckity fuck outta here, Chuck; you're an albatross around the neck of Heroes in the ratings. Overnight ratings just came in; it tied with Prison Break (4.7 rating, 7 share, 18-49 ratings won't be out until after 2PM ET); but Heroes could only tie with Big Bang Theory (6.2/9). Bring back Deal or No Deal, NBC and jettison this Alias wannabe now.
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The ep was good, better than ANY other this season. It's just that it was a return to form FINALLY and offers hope to the hopeless. Or clueless. Or the easily offended.It started to payoff the dragged out rehash set-up and I guess that's finally SOMETHING.Hope there's a LOT more like it through to December.
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you're a funny feller... it's cute to watch you jump around like a politician. I beef with you because I want real opinions from real people. Not asshole comments from an attention starved 12 year old who can't seem to pick a stance and run with it... "BITE ME! THIS SHOW WAS MEDIOCRE AT BEST!" then "I'm super glad that Heroes is picking up and finally drawing viewers in and paying off some stuff. Really. Very glad. But I never thought that they wouldn't.". Sounds a bit contradictive to me. If you are "firmly confident in my assessment of the first six episodes" then why have you wasted so many paragraphs on the defensive. Saying the same thing over and over. Bow out sir. You bore us.
(and the insults you've been tossing around are all kinda centered around cock. I'd almost say you have a cock obsession. Maybe can't get enough cock? You do love the cock right? Sometimes maybe, when you're in class with the other 12 year old's do you think "mmmm... cock" and maybe smile a little while you're thinking it.?) -
How 'bout you just keep forcing Pussified's mom to keep blowing you while you rant about Hearst? That'll do. ;)
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Nausicaa is dying, and there is no cure! Now that is damn good TV! Mohinder's turn was inevitable. He is such a schmuck! I had such hopes for him. He seemed to be smartening up this season. Claire was wondering in an earlier episode if she could save the world with her blood. Looks like she can according to Bob. I wouldn't call the company "good". Yes, they want to kill Adam and he is obviously evil. That doesn't necessarily mean the co. is good. I am confused by Linderman being the man behind the co. and him being a follower of Adam. I agree that Adam may be the source of all the powers, and said as much weeks ago. :p If Adam was locked up until 2 weeks ago how did he meet Peter? Unless the locking up business is something that happened recently. Matt's dad is now trapped... but for how long? Who saved Sylar? Adam? Chrth I laughed so hard when I read your comment about Pete not remembering he couldn't control his powers last season. West isn't looking so evil anymore. More like he is genuinely confused and hurt. Claire is just ticking me off. Teen angst just irritates the spit out of me. I hope HRG doesn't die. Guys seriously, just ignore Elvis/Gabriel Gray and he will eventually grow bored and go away. Don't fall into the icky trap I fell into last week.
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Al said to get back down there and start sucking his cock. I know it's hard to think and concentrate on dick-sucking but the idea that the show was "mediocre at best" (c'mon, Peter and Kaitlin recapping where they are and why to each other as they walk through the streets of NY?!?!?!) and the idea that I'm glad they're improving on EXTREMELY lackluster first five are not mutually exclusive ideas. You don't understand that, I know. See, I get that to you, if someone criticizes the first five, they must always have hated Heroes and always wanted it to fail, but I thought that if I repeated the fact that I like last season enough, was disappointed in this one, and that I wanted it to do better that even a cock-smoking, cum-slut, son-fucker like you would get it. Guess I was wrong. My bad.
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Well the show "seems" to finally be back on track. We had a nice reveal, a bit of action, powers showing and West freaking out. Now if they can just keep this up, alot of fanboys will be happy.
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She didn't invite me back by talking shit and making threats. We parted on fairly decent terms and I wished her and the show the best. See how that works, Pussified? Nobody "slammed" your show by criticizing it for not being what it was and could be. Slamming is what Pussified's mom does to barnyard animals.
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Nov 06, 2007 11:49:31 AM CST
I do, however, stand corrected on "mediocre at best"
by elvis cole lives
I said that having only caught bits and pieces, but, having watched the entire episode subsequently (big word there, ao33), I see that it's back to form. Doesn't excuse the first five, but it's a light at the end of the shit tunnel (you know, the one Pussified sticks it into his dad on).
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A lot of fanboys will be happy with the Heroes improvement. Myself included. Fanboy, yes. Stupid sycophant, no.
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that when you broach "Pussified's Mom" you are referring to your cunt wife? Somethin' tells me she fits the very definition of cocksucker. Your wife ever thought about whoring? I'm looking for specialty acts...someone who doesn't mind getting fuckin' defiled.
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Pussified's mom is ao33. I thought Swearengen could read. I posted it quite clearly above and since you got SO offended one would assume that you'd read it. Huh. And, if you're looking to defile someone, I hear your daddy still loves the cock. And not just yours, my friend. He's takin' all cummers.Broach Pussified's mom. That's funny. She's definitely been "broached" a time or two.
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I hope you get well soon. I know a great place where you can watch TV shows online. Donate some money to them through paypal and your connection is better. I was sick last week and watched/slept through Smallville season 5. Justice League ! Don't have the link here in my office, but will post it here when I get home. And YES I am talking off topic, but getting to know our fellow tbers makes for a nicer/friendlier tb. Like season 1 of Heroes. So :p
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Ever think about whoring? Nah. She has taste and couldn't put up with you and ao33. It would all be a bit disgusting to her.
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...about which side is "right" was done rather sloppy IMO. Too fast of a "turn" without much backing it up. So Bob wants you to help the hot blonde chick...so now you question HRG's motives? WTF? Anyway, I thought that was the only negative part of the episode.
Pennsy - if Peter was reading Matrelli's thoughts, why were they all in Peter's POV? Either Matrelli is the opposite of the Haitian, or she has the ability to plant false memories.
Why, oh why, when Hiro FINALLY decides to go back to his time does he choose the "present". Doesn't exploding Peter still take some precedence?
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Like sick sick? Didn't know that. Huh. Best wishes, killer. If you're that bad off, in LA and you need anything, just post it here if you want and I'd be glad to help you. Disgusting slam wars aside, you're all right and I really hope that you get well soon.
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Fuck, man! Get well. Like I said, if you're in hospital in LA and you need anything, lemme know, dude. That don't sound good.
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I live in the Valley, but my wife and I are fine to drive. You got some peeps with you.
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Wasn't it sort of predicted in this talkback last year that Peter would be the baddie this year? If Adam shapes Peter to do his dirty work....
Timelines on this show are sketchy, but Bob has Mohindered assigned to get Claire right after West "discovers" HRG is her Dad? Was that how it went or did The Company know about Claire's whereabouts prior to that?
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was really good last night. Had to say it. Next week - oooooo boy.
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...haven't read the posts yet, so forgive me if I reiterate what others may have already said... Sweaty Kruger aka Bad Daddy Parkman aka Maury was such a letdown... defeated WAY to easily. There was so much build-up from last season... and he was very scary two weeks ago... he could have been an evil Charles Xavier... imagine what THAT could have been... ...but Matt puts him down with "I'm a better dad..."??? Oh, please. And Adam being revealed as Kensei was no surprise at all... and if he's to be revealed as the first "hero" the progenator of the "super-gene" having him named "Adam" is cheesier than a cheese pizza with extra cheese. (Unless he gets a black skin tight costume with a lightning bolt... but I think the Rock has dibs on that) I still love this show, but, I'm fearing for it... at this rate I'm beginning to wonder if we'll have a third season... Oh, was Angela revealed to be a telepath? If so she's a bit restrained in the use of her powers, isn't she? And shouldn't she have handled Maury even better than Matt, when she was attacked?
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Excellent ep. Next week SHOULD be really good, too. And fuck the brother, btw, on Journeyman.
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if for no other reason, then if Adam kills all the heros, Sylar won't get any more powers.
it would be in his best interest to join the heros and take out Adam.
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anyone have a link for the preview of next week's show? 2.08?
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http://tinyurl.com/2dnjjt (Heroes Revealed.com - US,Canada promos)
http://tinyurl.com/2wgkq9 (publicity pics)
"He's not a toy, Elle!"
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He keeps telling us that he will go away if he is not invited or talked to, lets call his bluff!
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And a deep and heart-felt thanks for the service to the country over there. I'm sure it's no cakewalk over there and I'm sure that no matter what one's feelings on the war are that we all really and deeply appreciate all your efforts and tremendous sacrifice. Thanks. Sincerely. And again, if you need ANYTHING, I'd be glad to send it.And on the shoutout to Herc re: Journeyman, amen to that! Journeyman is just an excellent show and it seems like they're really amping it up. You watching Life? Another good one.Best wishes in hospital and getting back to doin' what our boys do best -- kicking ass and taking names! Good luck.
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...all the cool kids liked this ep better than me... ...and they are probably right, it was only a couple of missed oppurtunities that made me impatient... ...But please, Mr. Kring, Please realise that Bob Midas has a potentially badass power! Imagine all the shiny gold "statues" of his enemies on display somewhere... I didn't make the connection to Adam being a weather wizard until somebody pointed out Bob's comments in connection to him... ... Maybe he's NOT Claire's "Gran-dad" but our own Ororo's? ... and chrth was right, Angela is not a telepath, in that scene the mind-reading sound was made by Peter... should have figured that out myself...
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Fuck off. Sincerely. Go caress that tiny lil' pecker of yours then stick it in a Meat Grinder (the use of the phrase "meat grinder" is meant, in no way, to infringe upon Pussified's mom's copyright).
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... it seems pretty telegraphed...
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Yeah, I think Adam Brody would be ok. Plus he has some real life geek credentials.
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Who's got the power to heal others now? Anybody have it? I forgot. Maybe Claire or Peter heals him following the shooting?
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...well, he does use the words "dick" and "cock" a lot...
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...Linderman had the power to heal. Last we saw him, he was facedown in his penthouse with a fist-sized hole in the back of his head.
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Of Life. Thought that Homeland Security was an unlikely "deus ex," especially with that vague-ish shit about Asian drugs through Mexico. Whatever though. The Russian's clue regarding the Bank of LA heist was interesting though and it got me thinking. You ever read any books by Robert Crais (whose Elvis Cole character inspired my screenname here)? He's got a great one called The Two-Minute Rule inspired by the same bank robbery and its repercussions. It, too, involves crooked cops and the attempt to recover the lost money. My wife thinks that Crewes's partner in the bar (the one who was killed with the family, framing Crewes) was laundering money recovered from the heist through the bar. Not sure about that, but I'd be willing to bet that when Crewes finds that little girl, she's gonna tell a story about cops with badges in the house that night.
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i forgive you, we all make mistakes, just like ECL's parents made the night they decided that they wanted to have intercourse instead of oral.
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Yeah, Linderman, but could anybody else have attained it? Peter shake his hand. Or Sylar. Hmmm, no, I'm thinking not. Oh, well. You just KNOW that HRG is gonna get shot and then Claire will be all distraught, but I wonder if it's her that will end up healing him. Or Sylar?
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I was just gettin' used to the notion of "Pussified's Mom" being Elvis fuckin' Cole's wife. But, now as I ponder and confide, Mrs. Lives is probably more the Calamity Jane type. If you're strong enough to get past the fuckin' stink, you might just find she's got a pair of brass.
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Seriously, man, what the fuck is wrong with you? Just let it go. You're a tool and so is your little butt buddy. You write and think like a five-year old. And, oh, that was so very clever with the whole oral-vs.-intercourse thing. You been working hard on that? Trying different lines? Bouncing them off pussified's mom? Using a flow chart? Diagramming? Well, nice, but better luck next time, jackass.
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Sticking it in Pussified's mom like that! Fuck, man, I thought she smelled bad on the *OUT*side, but that shit, I hear, is like the jizz of a thousand men, rotting, decaying, and then being gargled by a hippo, left out in the sun (son?), and used as lubricant when you poke her in the cornhole!
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flow chart? Diagram? your not making any sense. your telling me to let it go? practice what we preach.
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That'd make me his dad and got knows that I wouldn't want that. My kids stand up for THEMSELVES or apologize when they're wrong. Plus, Pussified licks his dad's jizz out of his mom's ass and I'd never...(jizz in his mom or make Pussified drink it - that boy's been through enough)
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bear - you are forgiven, and still loved. prof - weather control? I didn't catch that either. Is Adam the one controlling the weather or is it someone he has control over like his daughter? Blonde hair and blue eyes aside...I swear, Adam is not my daddy!I thought Angela had the same power as Pixie Chick (persuasion). Angela told Peter to remember and he did.
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Crais wrote Hostage the Bruce Willis vehicle a couple of years ago. He's got a series about a detective (Elvis Cole) and his sidekick (sort of)(Joe Pike).The Two Minute Rule is about, get this, an ex-con (the "gentleman" bank robber) whose son was a cop. On the day that the ex-con is released from prison (he got caught because he didn't obey the 'two-minute rule' and stayed behind to give CPR to a bystander), he learns that his son (a cop) has been murdered in a scene reminiscent of the family massacre in Life. Everything points to crooked cops and crooked son, but the ex-con sets out to prove that his son wasn't like him - that he was good. It's an excellent book that I've read twice now (just came out last year) and think I'll read again.Now Crewes is no Max Holman, but if Life gets much more like the background of this book, Crais might want to sue. ;)
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...to whomever gets his job... (chrth?)
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i dont really feel like going back and looking at every post but what are you guys talking about for the weather being controlled? please catch me up thanks.
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...anyone! People related to people related to people works fine in the comic book world and LOST is reaching this plot-device's threshold. Where things stand now is where they should remain for at least the rest of this season. It was nice when Parkman's dad turned out to be...GASP!...a completely new character we've never seen!
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Just saw your post. You're dead right -- "[e]nough with the vitriol," it IS tired and low-class. Thanks for the apology.I am sorry that I was misunderstood in previous talkbacks. Heroes WAS great and looks like it will be again.Don't worry though about "mentioning cock," I'm sure that you can't help it.By the way, though, just to be clear, you didn't MENTION cock, you straight said "EAT COCK."You ARE wrong, however, in assuming that I "constantly refer to sex, penises, prostitution and other things in general poor taste" as some of my other previous posts here in this talkback and in other Heroes talkbacks do nothing of the sort. That's all right though. Bygones, right?Although your apology seemed quite insincere and seemed to try to blame ME for your faux pas, I, too, will say "my bad" and "consider the matter dropped." Coolish?
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ELC, you inspired me to also apologize for what i said...so i say, im sorry. we have too much to talk about other than bashing each other.
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just how is that catpiss smellin' cunt wife of yours anyways? Still lying in the fuckin' gutter? Wonderin' how she ended up with an internet messageboard obsessed cocksucker such as yourself? How much whiskey does that whore have to drink just to try to deal with the terms of her fuckin' predicament? I imagine that when you've convinced her to grab ankle that she's dreaming of far fuckin' greener pastures.
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Nov 06, 2007 1:25:58 PM CST
The preview for next weeks 4 months later looked quite awesome..
by merlox
which again makes me wonder why we couldn't have just fucking started there instead. Instead of building questions they just pissed a lot of fans off. Here's hoping......it looks good.
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But the inspiration was pursued_by_bear's, not mine. It's him I'd like to thank for being a stand up guy in the face of my silly Niagara of taunts. Pretty well played, pursued.And *I*ll take the high road this time, Al. I gots nothing to say to you, so good luck with your attempts. I saw your title and read no more. Bonne chance, mon ami!
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i forgot about that....thanks....that is quite interesting now that i think about it. but thats kind of weird to just throw that out there like that. are they saying adam prevented the storm (or didnt he say monsoon or tsunami) and made it just snow on miami. did some one convince him that he shouldnt wipe miami out? im going to have ponder this. or maybe they are trying to set adam up? i think we'll see a lot more about adams agenda next week.
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Pretty funny. Not totally inspired, but certainly funny. I can almost hear the real Al saying it.
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Huzzah then.Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to see to the stain on the floor in my office.
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if you watch at the end of the preview for next week, you can see mama p looking horrified and about to come to tears! i wonder what thats about.
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I seem to remember an interview with Kring before 2.1 where he says that the eclipses are relevant and play into this whole mythos and that it will be addressed sometime this season.
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I got an idea. If you want to read The Two Minute Rule, I'll send it to you. Free. It's the least I can do with you laid up and all. If not, it's cool; I understand, but just say the word and I'll give you my e-mail and we can exchange particulars and I'll send you a copy.By way of explanation, I'm actually a little OCD on books (I read like a book a day) and I have a tendency to buy books that I've already read. For instance, I have at least two copies of all the Crais, Michael Connelly, Robert Parker, and Raymond Chandler books. For real. So it really would only cost me postage to send you a copy.Seriously, I have THOUSANDS of books so sending you a Crais book (or two?) would really do me a favor by reducing the number a little. Okay, a VERY little, but a little nonetheless.So just lemme know. The Two Minute Rule is great as are all the Cole novels and Demolition Angel (about a female bomb squad tech solving a series of murders by a mad bomber). All the novels are set in the same "universe" so the same characters pop up in all of them in major or minor roles.Anyway, sorry to digress and, if you'd rather not, I understand. But if you like to read....
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...that "ororo gets it" What she gets is that you don't DESERVE a response. I am responding because I sat out last weeks TB and only now went back to see... Ororo simply stated that all the negative energy expelled by haters could be used better... by making love to "your women" This was done without malice, without insult, and without calling you out by name. You chose to respond by suggesting you had fucked her mother her night before, really classy, big guy. No, you don't deserve a response. You also don't deserve an apology from anyone here who has called you out. You are nothing but a mean-spirited worthless little bully. I don't give a shit whether you love or hate Heroes, it does not excuse you either way... you are about as welcome as TALKBACK DEATH. I do NOT invite you to respond. I do NOT invite you to contunue watching Heroes. I do NOT invite you to continue harassing people on these TalkBacks... I invite you to just fucking die. If you are so keen to follow up any invitation that you only showed up here with all your filth beacause 'bear "invited" you, then fulfill the courage of your convictions by offing yourself. That is ALL I have to say to you. As Wonka (the original) once said "GOOD DAY! SIR!"
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Kensei/Adam being Papa Petrelli theory. Would have made sense, but I figure if they were going that route, then Peter would have recognized him more than likely.
Also, what's with all the Hiro is his own grandfather talk. Last I checked, and I don't think I missed an episode, they never messed around like that, I don't think you can get someone pregnant by kissing em last I checked. Chances are he did make out with his ancestor though, but that's about it. I think they would have showed a safe for tv aftershot if they did sleep together. Not just imply it by a few kissing scenes. -
Nov 06, 2007 1:56:56 PM CST
PROF IKAMONO, I don't CARE if you invite me to respond
by elvis cole lives
I'll do so anyway.YOUR negative energy could be better spent by making love to some dudes. Perhaps you should do that instead? That make you feel better? Huh?I'm sure that having sex with whatever guy you love will help with your hateful negativism.But I DON'T wish YOU to die. Not until you've got the GonnaHerpeSyphillAids, that you so richly deserve.Suggesting that someone go "make love" to their "women" is insulting, malicious, and uncalled for and it's the refuge and response of someone who can't discuss or debate with ideas.Why doesn't SHE just go wash dishes or clean the toilets, if she doesn't like to read the "negative" criticisms? That okay to say, too?I mean, it's said without "malice" or "insult."So, here you go, without calling you out by name, if you don't like reading negative responses, why don't you go make love to your boyfriend, wash the dishes, or scrub the toilet?That better?
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Isn't this how they cured the legacy virus in the X-men?
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Nov 06, 2007 1:59:19 PM CST
BTW, if I don't DESERVE a response, PROF IKAMOuNtcOck
by elvis cole lives
Then why are you wasting all that "negative energy" RESPONDING instead of just doing the dishes, cleaning the toilet, or making love to your boyfriend?
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But close enough. I thought Colossus did it with some hocus-pocus sacrifice. Didn't his transformation while carrying the cure stop the spread somehow? Lemme check.
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Killing Colossus in the process (but not really). Oh, but I just read the wiki summary and it looks like Wolvie's healing powers cured the virus in the animated series.
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my theory on the eclipse is that it somehow charges the abilities of the heroes, but im probably very wrong.
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You get me. :) My knight in shining armor! Now I hope Heroes will keep bringing you back.
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Not naming any names, of course. But couldn't the time that you spend fawning over faux defenders be better spent cleaning those nasty stains off the pots and pans? No malice or insult intended and no names being called out. Just a simple question.
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How many storylines are you expecting them to burn through in one season? Would those stories have appropriate time to build? Is building a story even neccessary to you? or do you just want everything now?
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And, really, I'm very GLAD the show's back on firm footing, but Prof and ororo exemplify the logic of the blind sycophants.To wit, from PROF IKANMOUNTCOCK, "if you are so keen to follow up any invitation that you only showed up here with all your filth beacause 'bear 'invited' you, then fulfill the courage of your convictions by offing yourself." Now does that make ANY logical sense to ANYBODY? Seriously? The courage of my convictions were that 1) Heroes had a VERY flawed beginning and 2) I'd stay away from Heroes talkbacks and criticizing the show until it improved and I had something positive to say (as I'd exhausted my criticisms and defenses of the criticisms). No need, I thought, to post ad nauseum if I had nothing new to say, if it was the "same old, same old."Bear called me back from the ether (and let's NOT get into that) and the above ensued, right?So exactly WHAT are the "courage of my convictions" that now necessitate my "offing" myself, PROF IKANMOUNTCOCK, 'cause I just don't get it.And, ororo, blithely and without hint of malice or ill-will sweetly suggests that instead of criticizing what was bad about Heroes (as juxtaposed the good of last season) that we instead spend our time engaging in the sweet bliss of coitus.Yeah, that's logical and not at all insulting. Responding to her that her desires were fruitless as I'd already done her mom (and, yes, *I*ll admit that being essentially told to shut up and go fuck someone if I didn't have anything nice to say about Heroes WAS offensive and insulting).Suddenly, ororo's the model of thoughtfulness and tact, though she's just suggested that 1) our criticisms of Heroes were "negative energy" and not the impassioned pleas of true fans and 2) we should go have sex with "our women" to dispel any hard feelings about Heroes.Well, if you don't want to talk about your mom getting fucked, don't suggest that we do engage in that activity and I won't mention your mother. It's that tactful and that simple.
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Nov 06, 2007 2:36:53 PM CST
Seems like in the Heroes talkback, 50 million fans CAN be wrong.
by samsquanch
Anywho, Anyone get the feeling like all 7 of the episodes of this season so far have been one long (really long) prologue? I'm not a hater, I still love this show, but man, next week feels like this show is finally going to start. BTW, if Jessiki dies, without ever showing us a truly bad-ass manifestation of her powers, I'm going to be very mad.
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I want thirty-seven storylines and I want 'em yesterday. Is that too much to ask?The point is that the first five eps were slow, not that anybody wanted all thirty-seven storylines yesterday. This shit was dragged out and NOW is getting better because shit is happening. Not the same seven to ten character in the same five to eight settings blithering on and on and on and on...What the hell is it that you cannot see the difference between editing a story for action and plot and movement being different from "everything now?"
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NOW the show starts. And readdressing zooch here, we're about to go "Four Months Ago," right? Looks pretty revealing. Action packed. Twists and turns. If it's CHRONOLOGICALLY BEFORE and contains so much "good" stuff, why couldn't it have been the starting point? You know, big bang, five crap episodes, one mediocre, and one good? Sticking the five slow eps after summer hiatus was a BAD idea.
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Making love to your womens? ;) Just asking.
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Frankly, there's still time.
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Reaper rocks.
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why are the one openly gay dude and the one actual woman on this talkback the target of (from at least a glance) some real awfully mean shit? Did I miss something? I'm too lazy to actually read all the posts, but Prof and Ororo have alwyas been cool to me.
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I apoligize for telling Elvis Cole Lives to kill himself. It was wrong and i had no right...even though i think he needs to take a chill pill.
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It's like GhostBusters for a new generation.
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Samsquanch is right: it felt like a prologue. That was the exact word I was thinking after last night's episode. Now, I can understand that some would have an issue with that much setup - my wife did. Frankly, I enjoyed it, but I recognize the fact that what I enjoy is not always the general consensus. Should TPTB done it differently? Probably. They should've gotten at least one of the main plot threads started earlier (like they did last season, when Hiro saw the bomb go off). But at the same time, I don't know how they could have, because they didn't have/take the opportunity to set up this season during last.
What's done is done, though. I'm still enjoying it, it looks like it's about to kick up a notch, and I really hope the strike doesn't cut out its legs just when it's hitting its stride.
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Lucky guess. As far as I can tell, samsquanch, you're talking to me and, if you are, they only got what they asked for. You see me and Xiphos or bacci40 or veritasses doing that? No. And, by the way, Prof sexual proclivities aside and ororo's sex, I said the same shit to them that I said to five others and I had NO idea about Prof's sexuality. You can read as well as I can. Prof jumped my ass 'cause (LAST WEEK?!?!?!) I suggested that I'd had intercourse with ororo's mom, following her suggestion that we dispel "negative energy" by engaging in intercourse (and, really, who suggests that you take your anger out in sex with women?). She got offended, despite having made the suggestion, and Prof apparently got offended that she got offended and, after all the shit HERE had died down and apologies had been made, chose to stick his ass-reaming nose in it. That is NOT my fault. Many, many posts here by me that do not "attack" or "defend" or whatever. Look at anything written to Xiphos, drewlicious, you, pennsy, sandwiches, or veritasses for pretty non-vulgar discussion. Like I said, you want to tell someone to "eat cock," "go die," "make love to women to dispel your negative energy," then you've GOT to be ready for what comes your way. Right, Prof?
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apologize for nothing. Elvis is a tool. Nuff said. I mean you've been here all day posting pretty much every five minutes on a Tuesday. Says alot about what type of life you might have. Good to see you have so much time on your hands to toss around extremly weak insults at people, the majority of whom, would just like you to fuck off. Although is it real neat to see you try to carry on a civilized conversation with someone *gasp* who can actually stand you. Trying to redeem yourself maybe. Tell yourself you're the victim. If you believe it, it's true right?
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apologize for nothing. Elvis is a tool. Nuff said. I mean you've been here all day posting pretty much every five minutes on a Tuesday. Says alot about what type of life you might have. Good to see you have so much time on your hands to toss around extremly weak insults at people, the majority of whom, would just like you to fuck off. Although is it real neat to see you try to carry on a civilized conversation with someone *gasp* who can actually stand you. Trying to redeem yourself maybe. Tell yourself you're the victim. If you believe it, it's true right?
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Agreed. It was like a L O N G running start to jump a matchbox (though I'd say it was at least a small chasm from last nights show and the 4 months later preview). I guess there was starting at around EP 4 (?) at least +some+ momentum building. I haven't gone back to S1 (can't actually, goddammit does everyone have a pen handy? Good, DT would like Heroes S1 on HD-DVD :^) Oh yeah, my point - I was trying to remember if S1 had roughly the same dynamics? I believe so but the new factor was at play. The Hiro plotline seem to drag, then seemed to get packaged up in a sudden rush (though I like the final result).
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Aww, this is getting sweet. But I *AM* chill. This is me being chill.And, pursued, you're "intelligent" enough to not be dragged into a bunch of "yo mamma" jokes, but not so brainy as to not tell someone to come eat their words and to "eat cock?" That, my friend, is a hella fine distinction. But more power to you for being able to walk that fine line.CONGRATS, CHRTH!!! I LOVED my daughter's toddler years!
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Hiro saw NYC explode in episode 2, future Hiro arrived in (I believe) episode 4 and gave Peter the "Save the Cheerleader Save the World" message in episode 5. Episode 9 they saved the Cheerleader, and the end sequence of Episode 11 was just frickin' awesome and gave the show enough momentum for the rest of the season.
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I live a life of luxury. My wife's a writer and I work from home. On believing it true, I believe that you're a cunt, though, does that make it true, too?
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Is going to be all the more prevalent now, considering all that we have learned.
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Was future Hiro really that early in S1? Wow, I do need to revisit S1 (maybe during the S2 mid season hiatus, umm, however long that +might+ be).
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Whether I believe it's true or not, you really are a stupid cunt.
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Wouldn't your negative energy be better spent making love to your men or women? ;)
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were setting up story/reintroducing us to characters/introducing new ones/ w/ some action peppered in.
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Just out of curiosity, why the rally for chrth? I never really have the time to read all the talkbacks and today has just been horrendous trying to pick out actual Heroes-related posts in between this other stuff that's going.
Does chrth have really good ideas with the show? Has he (I presume it's a "he") laid-out story-arcs or whatever for some of the charactrs that just seem spot-on?
Or has been one of the S2 haters?
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Because we're really just watching season 1 again. Been there - done that and this is boring. There are some interesting things going on under the surface that are different but so what when we are faced with the same Peter, the same Claire, the same Mohinder, they built HRG up into something and now are tearing him back down. I just don't like the way it's unfolding.
Oh and some guy gets his heart broken a couple centuries ago and holds a grudge for how long? Get real - that simply doesn't play as a decent character/plot developement. Maybe if someone had wiped out his entire family and tortured him for a hundred years or so then ya. But come on - what he like kissed the Princess a couple times. All i can gather from what they showed - they never even consumated their relationship. Pretty tough to get all tied up over that small beens like kissing a pretty princess when you're immortal.
And the time line thing just blows. On one hand Hiro can't change the past - but on the other hand the Peter can go to the future, then rewind and supposedly change the past or his present or wtf. Here's an idea - come up with some plot lines that don't have anything to do with freaking time travel!! -
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Next weeks preview looks to be amazing! One of my questions was answered in the preview. Thanks for sharing Pennsy! chrth - Baby proof your house now if you haven't already. He will be more interesting now. My munchkin is in kindergarten and refers to his "girlfriends" as sexy. WTF are they teaching 5 year olds in school these days?!bear - thanks, you're alright with me too.Xiphos - here is the link I promised you. http://tv-video.net/Honestly, I would rather have amazing sex than spend my time focusing on negativity. Apparently, others feel differently.
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PROF: I was having that problem earlier on the Office talkback, but it cleared up.
SimpleSandwiches: I'm the darling of the Heroes talkbacks. I assign books to read for fellow fans that illustrate what the writers are doing on the show. I can expound theories while simultaneously correcting misinterpretations. I'm everything a TBer should be ... and more.
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(Though you probably can't read this) I had the same thing happen last night - tried two different browsers on this same machine. Then I remoted out to another box, worked fine. So either it was some resource issue (though IE Firefox, shouldn't have been) or some weird F'ed up caching problem. For this entire site to be driven by this messaging engine, it's one buggy SOB.
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But i'd like to help you with that amazing sex...what? Too soon?
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I had the same problem this morning. It seems to be OK for me now.
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Happends couple of time a day with the white page.
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1) I have 9 weeks off from work remaining. I have time.
2) I have no interest in being a writer. I don't care if I jeopardize any future membership in the WGA by scabbing because I have no desire to be in the WGA.
3) I don't care about DVD or iTunes residuals. Just cut me a check.
4) I'm passionate about the shows I like, and thus can turn that passion into creativity. I'm also a mimic by nature (which has gotten me in trouble before when I've started unconsciously copying accents); I could easily mimic the style of the show.
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Nah, we're doing the opposite: exposing wires at outlets, pulling up the carpets so the ground is hard, adding more tables and chairs. The goal is to teach him to fear his environment.
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... Ororo I adore you right back. NBC hire chrth now! I just had amazing sex with my boyfriend and now have no negative energy left so I must make nice to EVERYBODY... hugs and kisses!
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the comedian. dread - too soon.
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is the only one that really matters. He's the closest thing we get to a mutant in our world. I'd hire you Chrth!
Ororo and Prof- please stick around. You make this corner of white male hetero privilege that much more interesting.
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Somehow this is Prof's fault ...
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Just in time for conversation to lag!
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That was an all-around great night of TV. In addition to Heroes having its best of the season, so did Chuck and Journeyman. I'm really sick of Mohinder though. Somebody tell Sylar that Mohinder has a power so he can kill him already. Mohinder is definitely the Gilligan of this show. He'd made a great batman-like villain though, telling his plans to his enemies will set him up with a nice career in Gotham.
I hope Adam is past the whole Hiro grudge. It would be unrealistic for him to have harbored it all this time. He would have had so many women since then that it simply wouldn't make any sense to go all ape-shit over one you had a brief crush on, like a thousand years ago. -
that the best episode of the season so far focused mainly on some of the most disliked characters on the show. Mohinder, Matt, Nikki and Nathan all come up big this episode. Why is that? Perhaps it has something to do with people with special abilities teaming up to stop evil characters with special abilities. You know, acting like heroes and stuff.
All of the things I criticized this season where answered in this episode. Tighter storyline, focusing on fewer characters per episode, less filler.
I guess my only disappointment was that Claire continues to horrible miswritten and seems to be acting so far from the way she was written last year I don't even recognize her anymore.
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You don't want to injure yourself again! ;) Good luck in surgery, my friend. I'll send you an e-mail tonight. When you get a chance and feel like it, just respond to it and I'll get you whatever you decide you want. You just let us know.The missus and I'll be praying for you and waiting to hear.Good luck, best wishes, get well soon, and thank you so very much, Xiphos, for what you and your friends do for this nation every day.
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Is funny, chrth! Good luck with babyproofing.Funny story -- my wife was watching my daughter when she was three-ish, trying to get her to fall asleep in the master bedroom in our bed. Instead the missus fell asleep, my daughter climbed down, grabbed a permanent marker that was on a table and drew Daddy some pictures all across the walls of our home (living room, master bedroom, kitchen, dining room, and daughter's room), all at about the height of a three-year old.Happy little family pictures EVERYWHERE! Hundreds!My wife woke up, freaked out, scared the crap outta my daughter by regaling her with tales of how *I* was gonna freak out when I saw it, so that, when I got home, the lil' tyke was already bawling in fear.It was so damned cute though that I gave her a hug, explained to her that she was NEVER to climb out of bed if Mommy fell asleep and NEVER to use permanent markers.Nonetheless, I also told her that she was quite the little future artiste!Then I proceeded to start thumbing through the Yellow Pages for a painter - our walls were white and the marker that she chose was black! It took MANY coats of paint to cover up.So, just, be careful 'bout leavin' them markers laying around -- even WHEN you've "babyproofed" the house!
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West is still the most annoying character on the show, eveerytime he comes on I cringe. There must be more to his character because the way he is presented says to me that either he is hiding something or he is a terrible actor.
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Last nights episode is giving me hope that next week will be the one to get the show back into everyones good graces. And hopefully the week after that we witness the death of West.
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I'd want her to stand around on the backyard patio with a popsicle in both hands waiting for me to come home from work.Then I'd lie to her about not going to Russia to kill old friends and she could lie to me and then break up with her whole family after her new boyfriend leave her, because we all know how much cheerleading pays, so she can easily support herself on her own.
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Hiro said he had a plan to stop White Beard by "destroying all the guns", then by golly, that's what he did! But he believed it was Kensai who would defeat the villain, and actually they both did, by accident.So Hiro and Kensai were fighting, they knocked over a paper lantern and the fire destroyed the rifles. I watched the episode but didn't tape it or memorize it, so which one of them actually knocked over the lantern, started the Chicago fire and destroyed the weapons, Kensai the legendary hero or Hiro, the man with the plan?I like how the last time we saw Kensai he was in the burning barn when the several hundred guns exploded, virtually disintigrating if not vaporizing him, then they make that smooth transition to the first time we see Adam and he caught Peter's lightning bolt in his had and his charred palm immediately heals, explaining how he could heal from... being... um, vaporised or blown to shreds.That's some nifty Shonda Rhimes-worthy writing there awll-righty.Why is it that whenever people have a shed full of high explosives they always line the floor with highly flammable dry straw?
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Nov 06, 2007 6:32:07 PM CST
To whet xiphos and others' appetites re: Kristen Bell next week
by pennsy
from E! Online's Kristin dos Santos, who has seen a screener of the episode: "What lies ahead; or rather, what lies behind? This is the big question that is answered in the next episode, which flashes back four months to the night of the big boom. In this episode, you fall head over heels for Kristen Bell as Elle, because she's hilarious and mischievous and just all-around awesome."
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So NBC goes green and aicn goes white. I missed Sylar last night. I long to see him play with Maya and kill Alejandro. Really, we could have done away with Claire/West and moved him in there. :/ Xiphos - I guess you are saying thank you, and so I will say "You're welcome". Can't read the posts. damn white page of doom.
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No, it's not just you. I also would have loved it if Sylar stayed dead and buried. I have nothing against the actor or even the character necessarily, but the climax of S1 was a weak battle and he hasn't done much since returning. He's threatening Maya and there's some implication that he could steal her power and wipe out masses of humanity, but it's being followed through on vveeeerrrryyyy sssslllloooowwwwllllyyy. To the point that he doesn't even feel like a threat any more. And if he's not going to be a threat, I think the show's time is better served addressing the virus and the Generations killer. Save Sylar for a season when you can afford his comeback.
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the virus in the future turns out not to be the virus that affected Molly and has been doctored by The Company, but rather Maya's Tears. Then Sylar becomes the main threat once again (which he should be if he's going to be around) and the characters who think they know what they're dealing with are thrown for a loop.
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...in last season's shitty finale. Of course, that everyone limped away and nobody confirmed that he was dead physically moved me off the couch to set fire to the neighbor's dog.
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It's really starting to look like West isn't subverting Claire on orders from the Company. Unless a heretofore unknown entity is behind West this will officially become the worst plotline I've ever witnessed.
Seriously, what are the odds of Claire not only running into another mutant, errr, "hero" her age and the opposite sex, but that he would have the exact same powers of her real father.
Now that Hiro is out of feudal southern california and the wonder twins are at least partially spiced (get it?) up with Sylar, Claire's idiotic storyline is by far the worst remaining. -
I was really hoping that Flyboy was a plant, I was pretty sure he was the one who threw Sulu off the roof, but now I think they're establishing him as just coincidentally the mutie boy next door. Sheesh.
I didn't mind Hiro's time in feudal SoCal (funny), but I am glad it's over. Does anyone else kind of feel like this series is just one big cock-tease in terms of not ever getting to see anyone with powers really cut loose? That was my one big complaint about the season finale last year. i don't know if it's a question of taste, or budget constraints, but I'd really like to see some battle royale type action, or at least one character really show their stuff. I'd like to see Hiro freak out, zip around like the Flash. Or Jessiki chuck a car over her head, or maybe transform? Anyone remember that cover of 9th Wonder from last season, that showed what looked like Jessiki transforming into a blonde hulk-like creature? anyway... -
Don't get me started on the S1 finale and the lack of payoff. I've seen pillow fights with more action.
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Heroes is finally back to what I was waiting for--action, plot development, and promise of interesting things next week.Mohinder is still dumb as a bag of rocks--and a bag of rocks is actually more useful in a fight--but other than that this is finally moving again! I am so glad this did not suck again.
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Pennsy is right--don't need em, don't want em, don't miss em.Hey, Writers: "smoke" em if you got em--we don't want em
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...seemed to be Channelling Keanu Reeves.seriously, watch it again and see if you don't agree.not that there is anything wrong with that.....
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Reason enough to tune in.
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D'ohinder.
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how cool will that be?Pennsy, will you be able to wait?Oh, and Hey There chrth!
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on my DVR to see if there's a Heroes promo. There were four versions, ultimately of the NBC ad touting Bell's debut. Godsdamn, it's been a long 2.5 weeks since then.
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and that is, in every possible way, a good thing
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Bag Of Rocks, Dumber Than: D'ohinder --photo redacted as offensive to everyone everywhere(citation/reference: Pennsy, AICN Canon, 2007)
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CaliJapan...lol.
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"d'ohinder" is PERFECT
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Did anyone else watch it? Will the strike have any effect on the G4 after-shows from now till whatever winds up being the end of the season? I'm not saying the G4 staff needs writers, so much as will Kring and others appear on the show during the strike, or will it just be geeks on webcams talking to annoying hosts for a half hour?
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Any writer who gives a character the line "There's a storm coming" and it doesn't refer to a physical storm, should be forcably ejected from the guild and never allowed to put pen to paper ever again. They should also have their eyes gouged out and rammed up their assholes with a baseball bat, just to drive the point home.
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Did his real biological father really deal in the watch business? Did his father dissapear around the same time that the company imprisoned Kensei? Was that old lady really his mom? Most importantly, what happened to Sylar's brother(s)?
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It was a dark and stormy night.Suddenly a shot rang out! [Snoopy the Dog]
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cuz gorrister gouged out my eyes!Get OUTTA here with that bat, muthafrakker!
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I am just a little extra happy tonight since this episode did NOT suck, and next week's looks even better!Oh there is a storm coming, mister, a Kristen Bell Storm....
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I can't read the talkback anymore since I logged in... now all I get is a blank white screen. Whatever. This episode was much better than most of this season. This and episode 5 (the first one with Parkman's dad) have been the best. We all saw the Kensei is Adam thing coming a mile away, especially once we knew Kensei could heal (even though we didn't know Adam yet, we knew he would pop up in the present). That said, it's still a cool twist. Glad they showed consistency with HRG's fingerprints all over the crime scene where he killed his mentor and tried to make it look like a home invasion (turning over stuff with bare hands!) instead of just wiping his mind, I was WTFing that one. Glad Hiro's out of the past. PLEASE KILL WEST THAT KID HASN'T GOTTEN ANY BETTER SINCE WE FIRST SAW HIM. SUPERDOUCHE STILL SUCKS ASS!! DIE PLZ. Next week looks good, it's the episode we've all been waiting for.
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Of course it was clear that Adam is Kensei, but are we supposed to believe that he was this good guy (or at least a passive drunk) and now he is this ruthless villain all because he had his heart broken? I am glad that this episode was a lot better than the other ones, but I have a hard time dealing with the idea that he carried this grudge for so long.
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I read the subject line as "There's A Storm Coming, Fer Suresh."I dunno, surfer dude with a lisp?
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...didn't quit. Sorry.
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I know, I'm a prick.
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I just noticed that the Golden Compass thread got deleted, what gives?
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Its the only way he will die, and sylars good he has been controlled by Matt's dad since the beginning.
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Its the only way he will die, and sylars good he has been controlled by Matt's dad since the beginning.
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right folks,
I've been reading the theories today, but there is one that I haven't seen anyone mention yet.
In episode one of this series, when Ando is bringing Sulu his paper, a bearded Nathan bumps into him and then moments later Sulu finds the marked picture of himself in said newspaper. He was also just walked in when Angela found her picture!
What if Nathan killed Sulu? I was thinking that his scarred reflection was going to be some kind of Two-Face ripoff, and that he was doing all these things as a split personality, without his good half knowing.
Just a thought really, but one that would make a fair bit of sense! -
Or maybe Nathan was being controlled by Maury, with the scarred reflection being Nathan's nightmare!
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i wonder if this episode would've been this great to everyone if every preceeding episode in the second season weren't that slow to begin with? i personally think it was a great climax in this season, like a good book with a slow start. its probably just me.
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I think the episodes prior to the last two have made the last two seem much better than they were, however, I do think the last two were much more in line with the middle of last season. And I mean in terms of quality and story direction. I quickly watched the entire season so far again last night, and I must say if you fast forward past Claire's crappy storyline (and the first 2/3 of Hiro's), the episodes are much better.
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INWOsuxRED - Those are questions (concerning Sylar) I am dieing to get answers to, and precisely why he can't leave the show yet. Is his father Adam or Mauri? Where are these sons the sign on the window hinted at? "Gray and Sons" turtle- that is an interesting theory. Mauri controlling Sylar from the beginning! The roaches that appear when he needs them really seem to connect the two. Gabriel didn't seem to need much of a push to go over the edge though. I really, really enjoy ZQ's performance best when he is the bad ass, but maybe if he goes back to being GG he will have a bit of the bad ass left in him. Samsquatch, thanks - I'm not going anywhere. LazyEagle - I really think it was Adam that killed Kaito. When Kaito recognized his killer he said something like, "I never expected it to be you." - Now if Adam inspired them to work together to help the world that comment fits the bill. Did Kaito ever meet Nathan to make a comment like that? Of course Mauri could make it look like anyone was attacking him. I'm still sticking with Adam though.
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http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html
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One would think Sylar is free of Mauri (if in fact he was under his control) now that he's locked away in his mind. On a side note, funky wallpaper! I agree that it was Adam who killed Sulu, especially after telling Hiro in the past that he would make him suffer. That would be one of the twelve that he would take care of himself instead of having Mauri do his dirty work.I don't think it was Mauri since Ando saw Sulu get tackled by someone. Remember, Ando came up after Adam showed up, so I don't believe he would have been under Mauri's influence if it was in fact Mauri.
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Will we see in a flashback that Adam/Kensei is the person taking the photo?
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I'm glad to see Kring was tuning into and listening to the criticisms. It takes a big man to admit failure and I applaud him for that. The thing in the article he got wrong is that we (the audience) don't necessarily mind "slow" storytelling. What got us upset was the _bad_ storytelling which made us cringe and resulted in episodes that gave us little reason to tune in. The corny dialog, the unrealistic character reactions and motivations that turned the "Heroes" into fools, the paper thin characters and relationships, the senseless, meaningless and/or illogical setups and scenes, lame use of powers etc. You can have a fast paced show but if it has all these bad qualities, it's going to suffer the same exact way. Take for example, the last (few) seasons of '24'. Last season of 24 was fast paced but boy was it awful. Fast vs Slow isn't the issue. Quality is what we seek.
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that the filming is weeks and weeks ahead of the fans, so he really can't make adjustments based on fan reaction. I tend to think much of the EW article is more placating now that he knows the early episodes didn't turn out that well, and the later ones did, he just wants the fans to feel like they fixed the show, like many Lost fans think they fixed the show by complaining. It makes them feel special, like when they get to the break room at work and realize grandma cut the crust off their PB&J.
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And I am trademarking Black-Eyed Twins(tm). 1. Have the Black-Eyed Twins seperated at birth. 2. Have Maya traverse the country alone, leaving devastation in her wake. 3. Have the story arc climax with the two reuniting and achieving balance and then dying. Would've worked great for Generations.
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You're the disease...and I'm the cure
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I'm hearing from multiple very reliable sources that when (and if) Heroes kicks off the second half of its season, it'll look very different from what was initially planned. Let's just say the complaints from fans and critics about the overabundance of new characters and weak overarching story have not fallen on deaf ears, and that changes are being made to return the show to its winning Season 1 formula. In related news, this would be even more exciting if there wasn't a friggin' strike going on!
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fuck.
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http://www.tvguide .com/news/heroes-tim-kring/071107-01
"[Mohinder] is Mr. Science and was conceived to be the one guy in this vortex who does not have special abilities." Does HRG have powers?
Hana will be back. Claude won't
Loeb Says (refering to why all the new characters?)"They haven't gotten to the Dec. 3 episode, when we do our big housecleaning!"
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can anyone confirm this as I keep hearing different things... I mean is there a job opening for chrth?
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Is that they are starting to build up a force of bad guys instead of just Sylar. Now you have Nightmare man and Adam. Keep 'em coming. Cause you know with all these freaks with powers some are going to use them for evil... and Sylar will rule them all.... or just eat their brains.
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Damn you!
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Nov 07, 2007 12:31:25 PM CST
posting blind...what does slicky like? who knows...
by just pillow talk
bastards...
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What is causing it? Is it due to my choice of browser, Mozilla?
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...although you mentioned no names, some others have brought me up as an example of the sort of "fanboys" who "can't stand anyone saying anything bad about their show" I for one, actually agree with you insofar as when the show is bad we should acknowledge this... ...that being said, to borrow a page from ororo's book, there are too many people who seem to get off on negative critisism for its own sake. There are also some who feel that their slavish devotion to ANOTHER show requires them to attack what they view as a "rival" to the "true faith"... ... all I can say to such people is to get LOST! And of course there are the bloody-minded types who are just here to get into fights with people, these can be easily identified by their vicious attacks on just about anyone, even those who never have a mean word to say about anybody. What's really sad about such people is their denial of their own trollishness, insisting that THEY where the REAL victims, we have all heard this type of talk before... ("She was asking for it!", "You MADE me hit you!", or even "We didn't invade we were invited into Kuwait") Standing up to such as these does not make you anymore a slavishly devoted fanboy any more than honestly critisising the flaws of a beloved series makes you a "hater". And if a crtain someone does not wish to be identified as a "troll" perhaps we should refer to it as an "infection"... an E CoLi infection... (see what I did there?)
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you can't read this so i will post in the subject lines for you...
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pillow - I really believe it was Adam that pushed Kaito. Was just commenting on anothers post. Same with Sylar. I think he is doing this of his own accord. Again I was just commenting on someone elses theory. We saw plenty to show us the "why" he went crazy. ---I still REALLY want to see the time Gabriel spent on the road with Daddy Suresh. Did he really know what Sylar was doing as he insinuated? Zooch - If HRG has a power I will be so disappointed. He is powerless and is the second coolest character in the show! I hope they don't kill that. What is up with the white page of doom? Has anyone reported it?
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I haven't seen evidence that Kring quit. Just rumors galore. Chrth working as a writer really came about because all of the writers are on strike. He can continue writing the show for us while they are all on strike. Not because of the Kring quitting rumor.
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...and in the hope that you will be able to eventually read this, last night on three occasions I was hit by the white screen, while others were not. and just now while you are hit, I am not. I do not know enough about such things, but I have never heard of such a glitch before...
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Nov 07, 2007 12:53:37 PM CST
slicky - I agree more villains makes it more interesting
by ororo_munroe
Not that Sylar isn't interesting, but it gives him some relief. I mean... a brain hungry serial killer can only do so much in a day!
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Nov 07, 2007 1:04:39 PM CST
Logging Out helps (somewhat)... I think (against white screen of
by turketron
I have ZERO success when I'm logged in and trying to read talkbacks, but when I sign out and attempt to read, I can get the talkback to load some of the time. The white screen of death sucks.
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...somewhere up there chrth offered his services to Kring as a writer... ...then when someone said Kring had walked, chrth offered himself as his replacement... ...either way, I would endorse such a move. ... and let's get Wonka in on this too! We saw how Henri the Cat took care of that spider... he could easily defeat Sylar's cockroach... (... and give Mr. Muggles a run for his money too!)
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I love the fact that people compare this season's first few episodes to last seasons. Fact is last season you had to establish the universe, characters, rules and threat. Why do they have to go and reestablish all that like it never happened! Oh, and it took till this week to establish the threat. Sloppy writing, shit pacing and most of the characters show no growth at all (esp. Peter with his amnesia, what is this the 70's? Amnesia is lame). At least Kring has admitted some of his missteps: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html
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I don't think Wonka can write during the strike, but Wonka and Chrth as replacement for Kring after the strike, I am all for it. Henri can take out Mr. Muggles(aka Uluru!) easily. I imagine he would toy with him a bit. Henri = Sylar kitty They both like to play with their food.
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Because they don't want to make the same mistake the writers of Lost have made. The writers of Lost have painted themselves in a corner, because if you haven't seen all of 3 seasons you will be completely... lost... as a new viewer. The writers for Heroes wrote it this way to allow new viewers to come in without a tremendous amount of confusion. One does not need to go out, purchase and watch season 1 in order to enjoy the show.
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...few people can actually read these posts... so to entertain those who CAN, I will at the risk of going horribly off-topic I will post the following sillyness: The Seven Dwarfs were visiting the Vactican and had an audience with the Pope... Dopey (I know he can't talk, it's just a joke, OK?) said "Your Holiness, do you have any dwarf nuns here at the Vatican?" "No, my son." "er, OK. Then Holy Father, are there any dwarf nuns in Italy?" "I'm afraid not." (the dwarfs behinf Dopey start to snicker) "Well then, are there any dwarf nuns in Europe at all?" "Again my son, I must say there are not." (the dwarfs are now rolling on the floor laughing) "Look, Pope. Are there ANY dwarf nuns at all? In the whole wide world?" "No, there are as yet no dwarfs among the Holy Sisters anywhere in all of Christendom." At this point Grumpy manages to shake of his fit of laughter and walks up to the very shaken Dopey, puts his hand on his shoulder and says "Face it kid, you fucked a penguin."
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Heroes rocks! And yes, while I too am loooking forward to the demise of the weepy-eyed wonder twins of death, I've enjoyed seeing one of sci-fi's greatest stars return to TV: The Black Oil. First making its debut in a small roll on Twin Peaks (as "Burnt Engine Oil"), The Black Oil literally owned the X-Files during its best seasons. TBO is pretty much wasted on Heroes, but I'm glad to see that it's getting some work. The Black Oil's gotta eat!
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There are many shows with way more complex character interactions and stories that I jumped into and got. Maybe it's because I'm got two English degrees or maybe I've got some sort of power, or maybe good storytelling does not have to go slow for the new people. The audience is not for the most part retarded and can catch up if the story is told well. But then the whole season has been a huge mess thus far. 24, 4400, Star Trek, CSI, etc. does not restart from the ground up every year, neither does any other great dramatic show with a huge act.
Oh, guys, Kring knows the show sucks now. Mind he steals your ideas and conjectures from the talk back and work them into the show. Kring you placating so and so. -
Can you imagine the Black Oil going into the casting director's office. "Yeah, I've been on Twin Peaks, The X Files, every movie set on an oil rig, most alien movies, I think I'll be right for the part."
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...to any little people, nuns, Popes, penguins, Walt Disney in his Frozen Chamber, Mark Z. Danielewski, Roman Catholics, people obsessed with proper spelling, or anyone else who may have been offended by my previous post...
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rare appearances on TV and movies. Plus their agent is Scott Boras.So the white screen = when Pete's powers kick in, i.e. sporadically. Or the white screen of doom = GABRIEL GRAY.
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...should also include several other David Lynch films such as Eraserhead (the puddle) and Dune (Baron Harkkonen's shower)... not to mention the opening credits of The Beverly Hillbillies (Black Gold, Texas Tea...)
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Nov 07, 2007 1:34:28 PM CST
Prof, that joke was eerily appropriate for some reason
by just pillow talk
Take that white screen of doom and your pro-penguin ways!
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Apparently you've never seen Lost. It is complicated. If you don't keep up you will not understand what is going on. Ask any fan of Lost. Kring is friends with Abrahms (co-creator and writer of LOST). Kring is trying to learn from Abrahms mistakes.
prof - OK I just choked on my juice here. Are you trying to kill me? -
FU white screen!
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(flashes middle finger to screen)
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Nov 07, 2007 1:38:21 PM CST
hmm...logging off did seem to do the trick for now...
by just pillow talk
And don't forget Armageddon (even though the black oil is)..
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...not trying to kill you, just to make you laugh hard enough the juice squirts out your nose. ...did it work?
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No juice out my nose, but it did make its way into air pipe.
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Adam met Peter 4 months ago...soooo, when did the fellowship (what was left of the twelve) lock him away?I would assume that he was behind the whole blowing up of NYC, since Linderman was his disciple.
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the white page of doom!So I take it everyone else is on lunch too.
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is mocking us.
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Nov 07, 2007 1:54:55 PM CST
... there's an ad for a George R. R. Martin book up top...
by prof ikamono
... if any now or future Heroes scrriptwriters currently taking time off are here reading this silly thread... ...please read his (and friends) wonderful Wild CArds series for some good ideas to er borrow for the show... (that way many of the TB haters who have only ever read Watchmen or X-Men won't know whom your "homaging")
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traveling the internet, taking possession of an unsuspecting talkbacker's pc...You dirty bastard poltergeist!
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but won't you miss all the "RIPOFF" comments?
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who knows when the next click on "Post talkback" will be your last before the reappearance of the WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM?
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From Heroes and the online comic. She *is* the ghost in the machine. We dared besmirch the name of Heroes, and thought to replace the writers with chrth and wonka.
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the counting of talkback hits. I believe the WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM is going to destroy civilization as we know it.
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No, I've never watch Lost nor do I really want to. Still doesnt mean that a story can start up a new season and get on with it without dragging it out for the new viewers. Fact is good TV writing can pick up and continue without alienating the longtime audience in attempts to win over new ones. Both can happen at once. Oh yeah, there is an add for the new George RR Martin book on the page now! Cool shit man, can't wait for that and the new Terry Goodkind!
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Why must you toy with me?
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It is time for nuclear warfare, WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM!
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but I am laughing my butt off at you now. Your reactions are hilarious.
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but this is infuriating. The WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM is ridiculous.
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perhaps whacking my keyboard is next on the agenda?
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Nov 07, 2007 2:43:13 PM CST
I can post to the Kring apologizes to Hero fans thread...
by just pillow talk
and yet I cannot see it on the Home page. What sorcery is this WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM?
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Where is that thread? *goes to hunt it down*
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The WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM still has me in its diabolical clutches.
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or am I blind?
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34726
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It's missing ororo from the home page...remember, aintitcool.com/tracker is your friend... :-)
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So now I will go find out. Thanks for filling me in! I LOVED that article.
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For the crappy first six episodes of the season. He even explained that changes were gonna be made for Volume 3: including ditching new (irrelevant) characters and the ridiculous 'Smallville' romances. Can you say Maya y Alejandro / West and Claire? This is FRONT PAGE NEWS!
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Nov 07, 2007 3:26:12 PM CST
out of lal the shows im watching.. Journeyman is teh one thats p
by mr_x
everyone should watch it. its great!
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Damn you Anti Monitor! -
Don't forget its key story in Creepshow 2.
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that Stephen King short story, I think it got made into a vignette somewhere, maybe on the Outer Limits or something, (it's been a long time) about the teenagers who swim to a floating raft on a lake that is inhabited by a black oil monster? It digests them. Awesome. I'd love to know where I could find that...
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..the post above yours does.
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Yeah, it IS pretty awesome. Actually, I caught it the other day on cable and while the atmosphere still works really well (claustrophobic while still in the open air), the actual effects haven't aged the best. They're okay, but I did giggle a little. Which is kind of funny. I saw it originally when I was a kid and that story scared the SHIT out of me. My neighbor had a pond that we used to swim in, and I remember the summer after I saw that movie I flat refused to swim in the pond.
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writers [of aicn html code] strike!
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Swimming pools only for me. King and Benchley took away my naivety.
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Nov 09, 2007 12:49:20 PM CST
the WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM has come back to mock me...
by just pillow talk
I thought I was free of the evil...but evil does not die so easily. A few operations and it's back and ready to go.
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Nov 09, 2007 12:49:56 PM CST
AICN...please, I beg thee...do something about the WHITE SCREEN
by just pillow talk
OF DOOM!
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I have not cussed at you in at least 5 minutes? Why can't you leave me alone?
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Nov 09, 2007 12:52:35 PM CST
I hope Pete hasn't seen the WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM in the future..
by just pillow talk
Damn you!
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Nov 09, 2007 12:54:18 PM CST
I spit in your general direction WHITE SCREEN OF DOOM!
by just pillow talk
dirty little billy bastard!
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