Nov. 4, 2007, 3:52 a.m. CST
...not that there's anything wrong with that. <p> But the chick has a NICE rack. I'd watch the show just for that much alone.
Nov. 4, 2007, 3:54 a.m. CST
...will find itself with A LOT more friends before too long.
Nov. 4, 2007, 6:52 a.m. CST
i think they need to re-evaluate the situation
Nov. 4, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST
by Mal Carne
Times two, even! These folks actually sound like they'll be hoot to watch. A tiny bright spot in a writerless fall, it seems. Looking forward to it.
Nov. 4, 2007, 7:21 a.m. CST
most random things that I have ever seen on this site. Is Herc a goth kid and I didn't know it? Also, I loved the dudes rant on Transformers.
Nov. 4, 2007, 7:34 a.m. CST
Going goth when you're an adolescent is fine as it's all part of growing up. However there's something indescribably sad about a 31 year old man going goth. I guess a bit like Wooderson but without the charisma and cool factor. Also have you noticed there's a high percentage of goth girls who are ginger and "chubby"?
Nov. 4, 2007, 7:40 a.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2007, 7:52 a.m. CST
playboy needs a goth issue. yeah sure.
Nov. 4, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST
I was making fun of them when I saw their pictures, but you know what? They sound like a fun couple. Good interview. Ok Kynt and Vysixn, or whatever, I will root for you tonight! Beat those Lesbian Ministers!!!
Nov. 4, 2007, 8:02 a.m. CST
Ok - did you have to post a link of Vyxsin giving a BJ? I did NOT want to see that this morning before breakfast!
Nov. 4, 2007, 8:26 a.m. CST
Who posts porn on a myspace page? Pornstars don't even!! Regardless i agree with Lightstormer, could not be fucking gayer. I hope these fucking faggots take an exit tonight. I can't stand to look at wrist-cutters... i mean goths. Frickin losers.
Nov. 4, 2007, 10:41 a.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2007, 10:41 a.m. CST
Mal Carne: Great reference
Nov. 4, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST
When they've made their own outfits from thrift shopping and some artistic sense, instead of buying them from Hot Topic, they can be goth. When they've learned to appreciate Bauhaus, The Bolshoi, Specimen, Joy Division, and bands that were alive in the 1970s, they can claim goth. When they can remember living in the late 1970s and early 1980s they can be goth. <p> What they are is not goth. They're too young, too clubby, and too mall-chic. They're Mall-Vampires, at best. They're posers to those of us who were in the goth scene when it existed, and died in 1989 to be taken over by vampire babies and mainstream posers who think buying a pre-made "goth" costume from the mall makes them part of the scene. <p> Goth, like the beatnik and hippie movements, was about the social climate as much as about the music and clothing. You CANNOT be a hippie today because the motivating social climate-- the backlash of the Vietnam War, primarily-- doesn't exist. You cannot be a beatnik today for similar reasons-- the original beat poets are long gone and what's left are posers who just copy the style. Goth is the same. We were the response to the day-glo 70s & 80s. We were the counter-culture that blended punk and art-house ideals into a subculture. We were NOT losers who bought our clothes at Hot Topic or listened to anything on the radio. The title "goth" never came from out lips-- It was assigned to us by the mainstream media. Anybody who runs around saying "I'm goth" is most assuredly not goth. They've missed the whole point.<p> I know, the modern 'goths' are large in number, and they've usurped the title and there's nothing I can do about that. If a bunch of kids who buy their individuality from a corporate entity want to play dress-up and claim they're outcasts, I can't stop them. I can, however, shout to the hills that THIS IS NOT GOTH. Goth died. <p> I don't know why the generations after Gen X can't get their OWN style, subcultures, and fashions. Come up with something new. We did. We gave the world Punk and all it's subsets, for example (extending all the way out to grunge, which I'll apologize for). We gave the world the geek culture-- Before Gen X, there were no proud geeks-- Only Nerds who were ripped on. <p> What do Gen Y and the later generations give us? Club brat variations of all of the previous generations' cultural movements, but with NONE of the social gravitas or motivating factors behind them. <p> I spot on this interview. Self-aggrandizing mallrats in Hot Topic gear are the very OPPOSITE of what goths stood for. They're just preppies in a different kind of designer outfit. <p> Not that I ultimately care. I'm older now, and that shit really doesn't matter. I just get pissed off when I see little poseurs flitting around saying "Look at me! OMG! I'm so goth I shit bats!" -- They are poor representatives for what my favored clique stood for.
Nov. 4, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST
All the original goths are now in their late 30s through their 40s (and even some in their 50s) depending on how old they were when the whole thing started. These two were toddlers when it all started, and wouldn't have been in high school by the end of the movement. <p> In my late 30s, I'm one of the younger members of the subculture. <p> I'm also old enough and smart enough to know when to Tone It Down and stop letting my high school clique define me as an adult.
Nov. 4, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST
At a minimum, the interview shows that they are creative, self-aware and are actually able to laugh at themselves. The only "posing" I see is the tired old refrain that pop culture was just SOOOOOO much better back when I was young and all of this actually mattered. Kynt & Vyxsin, ignore the usual TalkBack douchebaggery you will inevitably be subject to and go on with your bad selves. Screw what these idiots think.
Nov. 4, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST
Really didn't expect that when I clicked the link. Methinks someone got hacked.
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST
I like the interview and the race, so I'll be watching, and I think I'll be rooting for the team Rocket. She used to have lots of photos of people dressed up at nerd conventions, I hope she gets them back up.
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST
Sorry about the rant. I generally tone down my disdain for people who parade around screaming "I'm SOOO goth" on television. I'm not sure what set me off. Maybe it's the fact that I find Vyxsin kind of attractive and I lament the fact that she's using this as an opportunity to market goth athletic gear. <p> So forgive me. I'm not that opposed to their style, itself. If they want to CALL it goth, they can. I think they look good, and I think they sound fairly cool... I just needed caffeine. <p>
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST
looks like the site was hacked. But yeah I am completely not a AR fan but they seem like a fun group. Who cares if they are goth or not, while I dont dress it anymore I certainly love the good music like Birthday Massacre or oldies like Sisters of Mercy.
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST
You're not aloud to end the first of your lengthly two-post rant by saying you don't care. You obviously do. I am society, and I am telling you you're not aloud to do that!
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST
oh dear, I made a spelling error. The same one twice! I think that makes me goth.
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST
Just kidding. You're OK, kid.
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST
You two sound cool. My knee-jerk prejudices still come out in a mangled mass of verbal garbage now and again, and for that I apologize. Sometime around 34 I became a little more xenophobic than I used to be, and thus slightly less cool as a result of it. <p> I'll ask Doc Pazuzu if he could kindly just delete my freaked-out caffeine-less rants this time... I'd appreciate it. I was being a real jerk. <p> There is no "real goth." I don't know why I was being that way... Chalk it up to bad flashbacks or something. Forgive me my "get off my lawn" moment.<p> I'm rooting for you. You're the only halfway cool people on that show, ever. <p>
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:37 a.m. CST
if you win, please start wearing "rich people clothes" like the hippies did when they got their check.
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:45 a.m. CST
since the State started spraying for them
Nov. 4, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST
The minute the word Transformers showed up in this article, Memories of Murder should've been in here spewing invective. I'm shocked. And a little disappointed, actually...
Nov. 4, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST
but will probably watch if its shown here.
Nov. 4, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST
Amazing Race is back and I, for one, find that quite smashing!
Nov. 4, 2007, 3:31 p.m. CST
This constitutes the freak factor for this season? Bring back the dwarves and amputees, say I.
Nov. 4, 2007, 7:16 p.m. CST
I forgot about all this Sunday night bullshit where 60 Minutes ends 45 mins late or whatever because of football meaning God knows when TAR actually starts! Messing up my whole damn schedule.
Nov. 4, 2007, 7:56 p.m. CST
just at the other end of the spectrum. They both look ridiculous, talk nonsense because they've never had to struggle for anything, but they're basically harmless and fun to hang out with (in small doses). In Canada, the only goths to speak of in any kind of 'scene' as far as I can see is Toronto, where all other Canadian goths go to die. <p> Still, not that I'm an expert, but are these two really "goth"? He just looks like a drag queen, and she looks like his boyfriend/boss/top.
Nov. 4, 2007, 9:03 p.m. CST
pink zebras are not goth.
Nov. 4, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST
you cant throw a rock in the Buckland Hills Mall without hitting one.
Nov. 5, 2007, 1:42 a.m. CST
by Alonzo Mosely
Surely it should be pronounced Kunt...
Nov. 5, 2007, 2:23 a.m. CST
Wanna hang out?
Nov. 5, 2007, 3:57 a.m. CST
by The Selecter
TAR:LA - Whiny bitches dating indifferent guys Edition? 'Cuz that's what it looked like. At times, you couldn't tell whether those noises were coming from the donkeys, or the human players.<br><br>Whatever their appearance, the Wannabe Goths appear to be good racers.
Nov. 5, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST
by Jonas Grumpy
Dye that mane green, bleach that skin even more, and dress him up in a more subdued shade of purple. Vyxsin can play Harley. Am I right, people?
Nov. 6, 2007, 8:28 a.m. CST
by Wyrdy the Gerbil
Is`nt that the show that they cheated on to insure that the last two teams were in a head to head thrilling finale a couple of years ago(season10 2006)
Nov. 6, 2007, 11:27 a.m. CST
MallGoths don't count
Nov. 6, 2007, 11:58 a.m. CST
CBS now offers an "EYE-lert" service to e-mail the starting times of Sunday programming pushed back by football. I got an e-mail at 7:29 stating that 60 minutes started at 7:27 and the start times for "race" and "cold case" would be 8:27 and 9:27.<p><p> Pretty handy if you want to fire up the DVR at just the right time. If not, just pad your recording program by an hour to be safe.
Nov. 6, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST
I love when the other contestants call them "The Freaks"