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Herc Has A Goth Talk With THE AMAZING RACE’s Kynt & Vyxsin!!

I am – Hercules!!

Home previously to nerds, hippies, a dwarf and an amputee, “The Amazing Race” is going Goth. Its 12th season, kicking off tonight, features Louisville, Ky., waiter/receptionists Kynt Cothron, 31, and Vyxsin Fiala, 29. Some excerpts from our email chat earlier this week: Did you greet Saturday Night Live’s “Goth Talk” sketches with love or disdain? Kynt: WE LOVED GOTH TALK!!! Contrary to popular misconception, Goth people actually have a wonderful sense of humor, especially concerning themselves. Vyxsin: There were so many moments in GOTH TALK that "struck close to home" if you know what I mean. Those sketches were absolutely hilarious. I particularly loved their uber-goth names [Azrael Abyss (Chris Kattan), Circe Nightshade (Molly Shannon) and Baron Nocturna (Will Ferrell) – Ed.] ......and how angry they got whenever their parents interrupted a taping of GOTH TALK. Kynt: I remember when my parents would come downstairs when I was hanging out with my friends, I'd get so upset lol. Vyxsin: WE love self-deprecating humor! Are the Louisville Goths wearing a lot of pink these days, or are the outfits just for TV? Vyxsin: Being goth doesn't mean that you have to wear "purely black" at all times. Really and truly, goth fashion is whatever YOU want to make it. The range of fabrics, materials, colors....the fluidity involved in this is why we like it so much. Some people like a more "romantic" goth look --- with lace and velvet ---- other prefer a "cyber" aesthetic --- with plastics, latex, synthetic dread falls. Kynt: I love pink. It makes me instantly 75% happier. Vyxsin: It's our lucky color for the Amazing Race! Kynt: Pink and black attack! Vyxsin: One of the readers posted on the board that we remind them of TEAM ROCKET from the Pokemon series...Blasting off at the Speed of Light! Kynt: Vyxsin's pet dog - Pika - is actually named after Pikachu. God I loved that cartoon.

Vxysin's MySpace page lists her as six feet tall, but in CBS' group photo you guys look smaller than the lesbian ministers. Is this season of "Amazing Race" a race of giants? Vyxsin: I'm actually 5'10, but i'm always wearing heels or platforms so i rounded things off at 6'0. As you can see in the Cast Photo, there really are several TALL contestants this season. Kynt: Yeah I felt short! Are you both from Louisville originally, or did you move there to bask in its teeming Goth culture? Kynt: I am originally from Louisivlle. It's a great town actually. The people are warm and friendly, I'm comfy here for the time being. Vyxsin: I moved here from Minneapolis about 5 years ago. The goth scene here is FUN, as well as the underground art and music scenes. We've tried to be a part of the local action. How many Goth hang-outs can there be in Kentucky? Kynt: While Louisville's goth scene can't compare to scenes in places like San Francisco, Seattle, or Berlin, it is quite active and vibrant! We have goth club nights, concerts, art shows, and more! Vyxsin: There are so many talented musicians involved in it. Our local DJ (and my personal hair-stylist) - DJ Kaleidoscope -- has gone from spinning weekly events in Louisville to DJing at national conventions and music festivals. Bands like the Revenants, False, Incursion, Empyrean Asunder, Absence of Faith, and the Passing Hour keep the local scene rocking. Kynt: We love music! I also enjoy the Cruxshadows, the Birthday Massacre, the Last Dance, and Voltaire. Is it safe to assume Kynt isn’t wearing as much make-up when he’s serving sirloins at the Texas Roadhouse? Kynt: Yeah at work I can't be gothed out. I'm make-up free at work, I wear an armadillo t-shirt and cowboy boots :>) Have you applied to "Amazing Race" or other reality shows in the past? Vyxsin: Applying for the show was Kynt's idea... I never would have thought of it. Obviously, I am glad that we did! We have both LOVED the Amazing Race for years. Kynt has been a fan since Season 1. Kynt: Yeah we saw the commercial on television for the casting, I think it was back around January. So we immediately filled out applications and made a video tape. Months later, we had actually forgotten all about it, and then all of a sudden the phone rang! We went through a gauntlet of interviews, and the rest is history. Vyxsin: We're really grateful that we were selected, it's been a dream come true. Kynt: I love the Race more than any other reality series on the air. Instead of a group of obnoxious people in a house gossiping and having meaningless drama, the Race takes teams (and viewers!) on a journey around the world! The show is so fast-paced, it's one of the few TV series that can hold my ADD-attention-span. On one hand, it's a typical reailty series, with the interpersonal challenges and conflicts...on the other hand, it's a lot like National Geographic. Every episode shows the viewer a different country --- it's scenery, landscapes, architecture, people, culture ---- this show is really a beautiful thing. You both seem highly attuned to the realm of geek. Do you regularly read Ain't It Cool? Which movie and/or TV franchises are you particularly obsessed with? Kynt: Yes I do read Ain't It Cool regularly. I stalked the website over the course of the past year, eagerly awaiting breaking news and trailers for Transformers the movie. I remember the "Optimus Prime has Lips" story. I went into that movie so excited. My gosh, could it have been any more disappointing? The special effects were unforgettable, truly cutting-edge, but the film itself was NOT a film about the Transformers. It was a movie about "a boy and his car".....and oh yeah, there HAPPEN to be these pesky robots. I felt like the focus of the movie was fundamentally skewed.....there was more emphasis on getting Sam Witwicky laid than developing the characters of the robots. It's funny, I saw the new Transformer DVD on store shelves the other day, the box cover features a HUGE masthead-style photo of the autobots, with a TINY pic of Sam and his friends at the bottom. But when you watch the film, the emphasis is reversed. People went to the movie to see a movie about TRANSFORMERS. Instead, we get a teen-drama about Sam, with the Transformers taking the proverbial back-seat. It was outright insulting that this film did not feature a rendition of the Transformers theme song (it was on the soundtrack but not in the film). I'm sadly not looking forward to the sequels at all. EPIC FAIL FAIL FAIL. Vyxsin: We LOVE to attend Sci-Fi/Fantasy conventions whenever possible which should provide adequate Geek Credentials :) We love anime and the cosplay that it inspires. We especially enjoy Dragon*Con and the San Diego Comic Con. Kynt and I are HUGE fans of Star Wars, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, X-Men, and Tim Burton films. I love and obsess the most over the Harry Potter books and movies. I actually purchased the latest Potter book at an airport during the Amazing Race. Kynt: I love movies with puppets! 80's fantasy! Vyxsin: Jim Henson's work was so incredible! God just don't get Kynt started on the Transformers movie, the venom toward it never ends. Kynt: I still love the cartoon Transformers film. And STAR WARS! I am curious about the forthcoming Star Wars TV SERIES. I love both trilogies, the original is better of course. Vyxsin: I'm still waiting for Lucasfilm to release special editions of those weird made-for-TV-Ewok-movies. What are your post-race aspirations? Vyxsin: Let's see, a long hot bubble bath, a manicure, some serious eyebrow waxing. Kynt: Besides creating ATHLETIGOTH --- our own line of gothic-athletic-apparel? ;o) Vyxsin: Yeah vinyl boots that you can jump-rope in would be hot. And a corset that doubles as a weight-lifting belt would go over really well. Kynt: We are just so grateful for this experience, being able to run the Amazing Race, if nothing further happens beyond this, we'll always cherish the opportunity to do this. We both love to travel, we are wandering souls....we roadtrip every chance that we get. The chance to embark on a literally world-wide "scavenger hunt" was just a blessing. Find Kynt’s MySpace page here. Meet all the amazing racers here. 8 p.m. Sunday. CBS.
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  • Nov. 4, 2007, 3:52 a.m. CST

    Dude couldn't be gayer.


    ...not that there's anything wrong with that. <p> But the chick has a NICE rack. I'd watch the show just for that much alone.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Vyxsin's MySpace...


    ...will find itself with A LOT more friends before too long.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 6:52 a.m. CST

    i think...

    by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell

    i think they need to re-evaluate the situation

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST

    It's Perky Goth!

    by Mal Carne

    Times two, even! These folks actually sound like they'll be hoot to watch. A tiny bright spot in a writerless fall, it seems. Looking forward to it.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 7:21 a.m. CST

    This is one of the

    by Mezzanine

    most random things that I have ever seen on this site. Is Herc a goth kid and I didn't know it? Also, I loved the dudes rant on Transformers.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Indescribably Sad

    by GCH888

    Going goth when you're an adolescent is fine as it's all part of growing up. However there's something indescribably sad about a 31 year old man going goth. I guess a bit like Wooderson but without the charisma and cool factor. Also have you noticed there's a high percentage of goth girls who are ginger and "chubby"?

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 7:40 a.m. CST

    reality tv

    by palewook

    blows goats.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 7:52 a.m. CST

    the one woman probably hears playboy calling.

    by theonecalledshoe

    playboy needs a goth issue. yeah sure.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Good work, Herc

    by theBigE

    I was making fun of them when I saw their pictures, but you know what? They sound like a fun couple. Good interview. Ok Kynt and Vysixn, or whatever, I will root for you tonight! Beat those Lesbian Ministers!!!

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Aggh! Vyxsin's MySpace NSFSW!

    by theBigE

    Ok - did you have to post a link of Vyxsin giving a BJ? I did NOT want to see that this morning before breakfast!

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 8:26 a.m. CST


    by nalapou

    Who posts porn on a myspace page? Pornstars don't even!! Regardless i agree with Lightstormer, could not be fucking gayer. I hope these fucking faggots take an exit tonight. I can't stand to look at wrist-cutters... i mean goths. Frickin losers.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Goths shouldn

    by chrth

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Goths shouldn't wear Nike apparel!

    by chrth

    Mal Carne: Great reference

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Um.. Not Goth.

    by ZeroCorpse

    When they've made their own outfits from thrift shopping and some artistic sense, instead of buying them from Hot Topic, they can be goth. When they've learned to appreciate Bauhaus, The Bolshoi, Specimen, Joy Division, and bands that were alive in the 1970s, they can claim goth. When they can remember living in the late 1970s and early 1980s they can be goth. <p> What they are is not goth. They're too young, too clubby, and too mall-chic. They're Mall-Vampires, at best. They're posers to those of us who were in the goth scene when it existed, and died in 1989 to be taken over by vampire babies and mainstream posers who think buying a pre-made "goth" costume from the mall makes them part of the scene. <p> Goth, like the beatnik and hippie movements, was about the social climate as much as about the music and clothing. You CANNOT be a hippie today because the motivating social climate-- the backlash of the Vietnam War, primarily-- doesn't exist. You cannot be a beatnik today for similar reasons-- the original beat poets are long gone and what's left are posers who just copy the style. Goth is the same. We were the response to the day-glo 70s & 80s. We were the counter-culture that blended punk and art-house ideals into a subculture. We were NOT losers who bought our clothes at Hot Topic or listened to anything on the radio. The title "goth" never came from out lips-- It was assigned to us by the mainstream media. Anybody who runs around saying "I'm goth" is most assuredly not goth. They've missed the whole point.<p> I know, the modern 'goths' are large in number, and they've usurped the title and there's nothing I can do about that. If a bunch of kids who buy their individuality from a corporate entity want to play dress-up and claim they're outcasts, I can't stop them. I can, however, shout to the hills that THIS IS NOT GOTH. Goth died. <p> I don't know why the generations after Gen X can't get their OWN style, subcultures, and fashions. Come up with something new. We did. We gave the world Punk and all it's subsets, for example (extending all the way out to grunge, which I'll apologize for). We gave the world the geek culture-- Before Gen X, there were no proud geeks-- Only Nerds who were ripped on. <p> What do Gen Y and the later generations give us? Club brat variations of all of the previous generations' cultural movements, but with NONE of the social gravitas or motivating factors behind them. <p> I spot on this interview. Self-aggrandizing mallrats in Hot Topic gear are the very OPPOSITE of what goths stood for. They're just preppies in a different kind of designer outfit. <p> Not that I ultimately care. I'm older now, and that shit really doesn't matter. I just get pissed off when I see little poseurs flitting around saying "Look at me! OMG! I'm so goth I shit bats!" -- They are poor representatives for what my favored clique stood for.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST

    No... Not old enough.

    by ZeroCorpse

    All the original goths are now in their late 30s through their 40s (and even some in their 50s) depending on how old they were when the whole thing started. These two were toddlers when it all started, and wouldn't have been in high school by the end of the movement. <p> In my late 30s, I'm one of the younger members of the subculture. <p> I'm also old enough and smart enough to know when to Tone It Down and stop letting my high school clique define me as an adult.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST

    zero corpse: Who fucking cares?

    by gruntybear

    At a minimum, the interview shows that they are creative, self-aware and are actually able to laugh at themselves. The only "posing" I see is the tired old refrain that pop culture was just SOOOOOO much better back when I was young and all of this actually mattered. Kynt & Vyxsin, ignore the usual TalkBack douchebaggery you will inevitably be subject to and go on with your bad selves. Screw what these idiots think.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Wow, that is hardcore porn there

    by Belvis

    Really didn't expect that when I clicked the link. Methinks someone got hacked.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Tom says, never give out your myspace password

    by INWOsuxRED

    I like the interview and the race, so I'll be watching, and I think I'll be rooting for the team Rocket. She used to have lots of photos of people dressed up at nerd conventions, I hope she gets them back up.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Sorry. I am cranky when I wake up.

    by ZeroCorpse

    Sorry about the rant. I generally tone down my disdain for people who parade around screaming "I'm SOOO goth" on television. I'm not sure what set me off. Maybe it's the fact that I find Vyxsin kind of attractive and I lament the fact that she's using this as an opportunity to market goth athletic gear. <p> So forgive me. I'm not that opposed to their style, itself. If they want to CALL it goth, they can. I think they look good, and I think they sound fairly cool... I just needed caffeine. <p>

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Someone hacked her

    by Falcon5768

    looks like the site was hacked. But yeah I am completely not a AR fan but they seem like a fun group. Who cares if they are goth or not, while I dont dress it anymore I certainly love the good music like Birthday Massacre or oldies like Sisters of Mercy.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST

    "Not that I ultimately care."

    by INWOsuxRED

    You're not aloud to end the first of your lengthly two-post rant by saying you don't care. You obviously do. I am society, and I am telling you you're not aloud to do that!

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST


    by INWOsuxRED

    oh dear, I made a spelling error. The same one twice! I think that makes me goth.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST

    No, but it does make you semi-illiterate.

    by ZeroCorpse

    Just kidding. You're OK, kid.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Seriously. I'm sorry, Kynt & Vixsin.

    by ZeroCorpse

    You two sound cool. My knee-jerk prejudices still come out in a mangled mass of verbal garbage now and again, and for that I apologize. Sometime around 34 I became a little more xenophobic than I used to be, and thus slightly less cool as a result of it. <p> I'll ask Doc Pazuzu if he could kindly just delete my freaked-out caffeine-less rants this time... I'd appreciate it. I was being a real jerk. <p> There is no "real goth." I don't know why I was being that way... Chalk it up to bad flashbacks or something. Forgive me my "get off my lawn" moment.<p> I'm rooting for you. You're the only halfway cool people on that show, ever. <p>

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Dear Goths,

    by INWOsuxRED

    if you win, please start wearing "rich people clothes" like the hippies did when they got their check.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:45 a.m. CST

    we don't have Goths here in Connecticut

    by chrisco

    since the State started spraying for them

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST

    where's MOM?

    by necgray

    The minute the word Transformers showed up in this article, Memories of Murder should've been in here spewing invective. I'm shocked. And a little disappointed, actually...

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST

    by ironic_name

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST

    " "

    by ironic_name

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST

    " " means I don't care

    by ironic_name

    but will probably watch if its shown here.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Well whatever...

    by Tal111

    Amazing Race is back and I, for one, find that quite smashing!

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Fyrr Kryinn Outt Loudd...

    by Christopher3

    This constitutes the freak factor for this season? Bring back the dwarves and amputees, say I.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Fuck you CBS!

    by Raymar

    I forgot about all this Sunday night bullshit where 60 Minutes ends 45 mins late or whatever because of football meaning God knows when TAR actually starts! Messing up my whole damn schedule.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 7:56 p.m. CST

    goths are like hippies

    by samsquanch

    just at the other end of the spectrum. They both look ridiculous, talk nonsense because they've never had to struggle for anything, but they're basically harmless and fun to hang out with (in small doses). In Canada, the only goths to speak of in any kind of 'scene' as far as I can see is Toronto, where all other Canadian goths go to die. <p> Still, not that I'm an expert, but are these two really "goth"? He just looks like a drag queen, and she looks like his boyfriend/boss/top.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 9:03 p.m. CST

    real goths dont run.

    by dr.bulber

    pink zebras are not goth.

  • Nov. 4, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Oh chrisco there are goths in CT

    by IndustryKiller!

    you cant throw a rock in the Buckland Hills Mall without hitting one.

  • Nov. 5, 2007, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Why is it pronounced Kent?

    by Alonzo Mosely

    Surely it should be pronounced Kunt...

  • Nov. 5, 2007, 2:23 a.m. CST

    "Hey! I hate myself too!!"

    by samsquanch

    Wanna hang out?

  • Nov. 5, 2007, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Is this the

    by The Selecter

    TAR:LA - Whiny bitches dating indifferent guys Edition? 'Cuz that's what it looked like. At times, you couldn't tell whether those noises were coming from the donkeys, or the human players.<br><br>Whatever their appearance, the Wannabe Goths appear to be good racers.

  • Nov. 5, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Kynt as The Joker

    by Jonas Grumpy

    Dye that mane green, bleach that skin even more, and dress him up in a more subdued shade of purple. Vyxsin can play Harley. Am I right, people?

  • Nov. 6, 2007, 8:28 a.m. CST

    The amazing race ...

    by Wyrdy the Gerbil

    Is`nt that the show that they cheated on to insure that the last two teams were in a head to head thrilling finale a couple of years ago(season10 2006)

  • Nov. 6, 2007, 11:27 a.m. CST


    by chrisco

    MallGoths don't count

  • Nov. 6, 2007, 11:58 a.m. CST

    CBS scheduling changes

    by mbeemer

    CBS now offers an "EYE-lert" service to e-mail the starting times of Sunday programming pushed back by football. I got an e-mail at 7:29 stating that 60 minutes started at 7:27 and the start times for "race" and "cold case" would be 8:27 and 9:27.<p><p> Pretty handy if you want to fire up the DVR at just the right time. If not, just pad your recording program by an hour to be safe.

  • Nov. 6, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    It's histerical

    by DocMHumphrey

    I love when the other contestants call them "The Freaks"