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Thank Heavens... The RATner won't slay SNAKE in the remake of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK!!!
Hey folks, Harry here with great news. It seems the Brett Ratner is off the ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remake... Now the script for this was pretty good and had some fun bits - but now that Ratner is off the case - hopefully we'll have something to be excited about on this. So far, both the chosen directors have been terrifyingly awful - let's hope something inspiring comes on the behind the camera side on this project.
Harry, I don't know if this is old news but I can tell you that Brett Ratner isn't directing the EFNY remake, according to him. He was given an "achievement in cinema" award at the Savannah Film Festival and I managed to ask him afterwards about it and he said that it was happening but not with him. I know I'm not a spy or anything but thought I'd shoot you an email about it. MonsterZero
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Thank the lord!
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Now, let's not make it at all!!
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DAMM YOU RATNER YOU FAT FUCK FOR X-MEN 3
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Now go fucking call John Carpenter.
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Ohhh yeah, I forsee him casting Tom Brady as the man himself.
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Please let this project get a decent director. And please not JJ Abrams, that hack. Ruining the X-Men franchise is an unforgiveable offense.
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He did NOTHING wrong with X-Men 3. He was at the mercy of Fox's budget restrictions and the demands of actor's contracts. X-Men 3 was an entertaining third act in a trilogy of movies. Give him a break already.
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Jiminy Christmas, get off the man's case.
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Rush Hour 3 = not okay. I keed, I keed.
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Oct. 28, 2007, 11:48 p.m. CST
OK ratner is not great, but hes better than MCG or the guy who d
by y7jver01
Ewww... Come on GEEKS... R U pissed cuase RATNER actually made X3 enjoyable?????????? Or u want us to burn as u fucks are!!!!!
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why all the ratner hate? cause harry hates him? i think he does a pretty good job finding the feel for the franchises hes been put into. (x-men, red dragon) and admit it.. you liked rush hour 1 when it came out 10 years ago.. its not his fault the studios gave him a butt load of money to do part 2 and 3.
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"Or u want us to burn as u fucks are!!!!!" i was going to say that exact same thing, but you beat me to it.
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gerard butler
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gerard butler
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i didn't like rush hour 1. i liked shanghai knights, i like jackie chan, i didn't like "do you... unnnastand the words... that a commin outta my mouth" with ruby rod. is this talkback infiltrated by ratner p.a.'s? c'mon already. mediocre does not deserve defense like this.
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Nor does an (at worst) competent director deserve to have his career derailed by a large redheaded man with a chip on his shoulder and a stick up his ass.
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Let's not stop until it happens
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the career of a hooker with a surgically sealed vag. (And that includes Harry.) How the hell do you think your pissing and moaning about Brett Ratner will alter his livelihood? You guys are nothing but pure comedy gold. I shake my dick in your direction...and may you all be so lucky as to have one golden droplet of my piss land at your feet.
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I think he sucks all by myself, I don't need any help from anyone to recognize he's hack. He doesn't bother me at all as long as he sticks to directing crap like Rush Hour and Money Talks, but now that they've started hiring him for projects I'm intrested in, that's where I have a problem. If Harry could derail his career, I would be eternally greatful.
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Some things are sacred. You don't remake The Godfather. You don't remake E.T.. You don't remake Star Wars (A New Hope). You don't remake Big Trouble in Little China. You don't remake ALIEN. And you don't remake Escape From New York!!!!!!! <p> There's no reason to remake it. There's no call to remake it. There's nobody who could make it feel as "right" as Carpenter and Russell. There's no score that would have the same feel as Carpenter's. There's no single person on the face of the Earth who could embody the character of "Cabbie" like Borgnine. There's no rack on Earth to equal Adrienne's. There's no soul master that can BE The Duke Of New York like Isaac Hayes. There's not even an actor today that can embody the character of "Romero" as it was in the original... There's NO WAY this will be anywhere near the original in terms of cult status or entertainment value... It's just going to be 90 minutes of CGI masturbation. <p> You want to get EFNY back on movie screens for a new generation? Clean up the original, advertise it as if it's new, and slap it in theaters. PEOPLE WILL SEE IT. <p> Let them make NEW movies--- Not remakes of classics that should never be touched by other directors and actors!
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Don't remake EFNY. But do give Gerard Butler some badass action flick to kick some ass and spit one liners in. And yes, I liked Rush Hours 1 and 2, but I'm not proud of it.
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I do not like any of his other films. Above and beyond all, X3 was a horrible travesty... Go away brett, before you ruin any other films...
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If the praisings/bashings of Harry and his legions of talkbackers don't make even a little small bit of difference, then why do so many film makers go out of their way to kiss his ass?
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...is that it's terribly biased and not to mention unprofessional, rude, discourteous, and immature to go out of your way to try to hijack someone like this. It would be like if I started emailing clients of different artists with stories about how bad their work is, or how they steal imagery, or keep making snide little comments behind their back every chance I get.<P> "RATner"? Please......
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It's in Leviticus. Ratner's just looking out for his soul. Good for him.
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All Mr. Ratner has, & all he ever had is Chris Tucker. He rode Chris Tucker into the ultimate heights of fame in Hollywood. The studios saw the money being made from him, and of course, they gave him more projects, it's business! Is he a good filmaker? By any means,no! He is a perfect example of a paint by numbers director who has no vision or care for the audience. If he had any love for the art, he would invest some of his millions into a personal project. After "Rush Hour 3", along with Chris Tucker, you can tell they don't give a shit about making a good movie, and that they have no respect for us! Either way, Brett, or no Brett, the EFNY remake should not be made. There is nothing new you could do to it, & the storyline would not have any impact on today's audience. This will be a slap in the face for anybody who is a fan of the original film.
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Oct. 29, 2007, 2:09 a.m. CST
Think THIS is bad bashing for Ratner? You should have seen it..
by Mike_D
when the pre-production and filming began for X3. Harry spent every waking moment every since they announced him as director in bashing the flick, he even bashed the posters.
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Those WERE some shitty posters.
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His "if in doubt, shout it out" school of acting is just plain....shocking and he was the worst special effect in 300. Word
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I don't know if he really fits for the material, but I think Kurt Russel would make a cool Snake Plissken in the remake. What do you guys think?
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I was kinda kidding in the above post. But you know what? Kurt isn't THAT fucking old. If Bruce Willis can come back for another Die Hard.... I mean shit, if we HAVE to endure a remake, I think having Russel back would make a pretty damn good compromise.
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Walter Hill should do this remake....
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He's the only guy I can think of who might actually do it justice. But he wouldn't even consider it.
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WTF?
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I didn't know bashing Ratner would get so much venom spit at you. I must be an idiot because I thought this was a site for people who enjoyed GOOD movies. Oh well. I guess I'll fall in line. All hail King Ratner! McG is pretty underrated to. and since I'm going completly bat-shit crazy now Paul Thomas Anderson is a hack. Not nearly the talent of Paul W.S. Anderson. All shall bow down to mediocrity!
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thank you.
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He has no personalitiy as filmaker. He is just a worker in bad projects.
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Although there were remakes that were very sucessful,(Scarface,The Thing especially comes to mind)high concept cult movies like EFNY should NOT be rehashed, that's like remaking Robocop,Aliens, Terminator,Mad max..ya feel me? I rather put up with another sequel of Snake (hopefully it will outdo the disapointing Escape from LA)in which he tries to escape from earth or even a direct to cable tv series (for HBO or Showtime) based on the comic; Snake Plissken chronicles. As for an aging Snake, it works for the other Snake as in Solid Snake. (MGS4)So muthafucking there. PS The Ratner hate is waay outta hand. It's not as if he's Uwe Boll and as far as X3 is concerned, despite it's flaws, it's way better than "Supes Redone" a film that Harry somewhat praised BTW. A film so lame that the writers will not have anything to do with the sequel not to mention that the plot from SR never existed!
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To get one of the most exciting books ever written (Red Dragon), get a cast including Hopkins, Norton, Fiennes and Oldman... and turning it into a boring film. THAT is an achievment indeed. Anyway, the EFNY remake is a crap idea anyway. Even Carapenter himself messed it up with the semi-remake of Escape from LA...
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Just ask Goldie Hawn.
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"Bronx Cheer" above is almost certainly Ratner posting on here. It's got his style alright.
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...with your Ratner hateration. Starting with the Big fat red headed blowhard and going all the way with his minions and lemming on these talkback. I'm not even defending the guy as much as I am laughing at a bunch of daft loser who just wouldn't let it go. The last Ratner movie that got the "Harry" treatment went on to be one of the top 5 earning movies of 2006, and embarrassingly outdid that other movie of that other director that you guys think is a god. Harry never learns, and neither do all the sorry Ratner haters. It never worked with neither Fantastic Four movies; It never worked with Transformers this year; it definitely didn't work with X3 last year, and it certainly wouldn't work with any future Ratner movies. All it does is make you all look like sorry losers. Let it go. The guy makes money for studios ergo he'll keep getting big-name movies to do and big-name actors to star in them. So the world isn't fair. Live with it.
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hate the stupid weasel who got the remake of Escape from NY going in the first place. Where's the shitstorm against that person(s)? But no, instead y'all pick up the worn out dirty script that written by Harry that reads..."Brett Ratner is a bad man because he gets to direct films for a living."</p> <p>I love you all. Happy Monday.
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You're talking about money, others here are film fans. My favorite film made fuck all at the BO, but I love it. Most people here are lovers of Cinema, not suits who care about the money. Brett Ratner is an utterly mediocre director for hire, with no vision or style, that's why people dislike him. Whether someone I've never met makes a lot of money means nothing to me, I just like to watch good films, he doesn't make them.
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... JOSH HOLLOWAY.<P> Tell me I'm wrong. Especially when he does the whole Southern drawl trying-to-look-hard thing in LOST. He's an absolute natural for that part.<P> Damn shame of it is, by the time the studio gets their head out of their asshole far enough to cast him, they'll have Paul W.S. Anderson directing it. Then Kurt Russell himself couldn't save this piece of shit.<P> The Shitlist for directors who should also be hermetically sealed off from EVER being able to direct this unnecessary remake:<P> Rob Zombie - Cos Snake IS NOT A REDNECK PSYCHO!!! THAT PREDICTABLE FUCK!!!<P> Uwe Boll - Cos this movie REQUIRES TALENT AND ABILITY! THAT LUNATIC TALENTLESS FUCK!!!!<P> Rupert Wainwright - Cos you FUCKED UP THE FOG!!! THAT HACK FUCK!!!!<P> John Carpenter - Cos he CAN'T PUT DOWN THE FUCKING FRIED CHICKEN AND PS3!!! THAT LAZY FUCK!!!!<P> Bryan Singer - Everything he touches TURNS INTO THE CURE FOR INSOMNIA!!! THAT BORING FUCK!!!!<P> Thank you, I'll be here all week. Try the fish.
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...He's getting more pussy than any of us on here (don't even try to deny it, playa haters) and at least X-MEN 3 had a big smackdown hundreds-of-mutants-fighting-at-once big apocalyptic feel to it. Unlike the studio bound other two, which featured boring old men drawling "The waaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr has beguuuuuuuun" at each other for FUCKING HOURS and then having a fight at the end of each movie with - ooh! 6? 7? Maybe 10? - mutants going at each other? That is SO NOT the scope of the books. If I want soap opera where there should be action, I'll fucking watch LOST Season 2 again, thank you very much.<P> The Rat's harmless. Haven't forgiven him for RUSH HOUR 3 though, the hack fuck.
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Ten bucks says some music video guy gets EFNY as his first movie and blows it.
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Don't EVEN think of remaking BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA. There is only one Jack Burton. Me!<P> In a tight spot, when the rain's comin' down in sheets thick as lead, and some hairy ape has the back of your favourite head up against a bar and he looks you right square in the eyes and he asks you, have you paid your dues? Yessir, the check is in the mail.<P> There's not enough cool in every leading man today to equal that of Kurt Russell in that movie. I always ask myself, when I'm wondering what to do with my life:<P> WHAT WOULD JACK BURTON DO?<P> The answer, of course, is "fuck Kim Cattrall while she's still young and sexy," and you cannot go wrong with advice like that.<P> No horseshit, Wang.
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I'll NOT take that bet, 'cos you're right and you'll win.
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Ratfuck should never do anything other than shitty Chris Tucker movies. It's obviously all he's capable of, but for some reason (probably because enough idiots pay to watch those Rush Hour movies, thus allowing him to do whatever the fuck he wants) he insists on sticking his oily head in where it doesn't belong. Ratfuck, listen to me, you are not a serious filmmaker. You are not a good filmmaker. You make soulless copies of other good films. Accept what you are and leave the good stuff to the real talent, okay?
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The hydra of bad possibilities has gone from one head to many. Let's hope that we don't end up with someone WORSE than Ratner. Better yet, let's hope they scrap the remake idea and just let John Carpenter make another Plissken movie with Kurt Russell.
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X3 was enjoyable, that Sunset one with Salma Hayek and Pierce Brosnan was Watchable, and the first Rush hour one was fun, Oh and his Hanibal one was OK, so maybee if it was for<P>'The most average film making in Cinema award'<P>then that's fair.
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Right after he fucks up Preacher, he'll do this with Ben Affleck as Snake. After that, he'll probably replace Chris Nolan for the next Batman film (with Christian Bale replaced by George Clooney who decided to give it another shot). After that, he and Uwe will be replacing Robert Rodriguez as directors on Sin City 2&3, mainly because of their brilliant suggestion to Mr Weinstein that it should rather be shot in colour (coz that's how the kids like it). Then, just to finish things off, he decides to release his Super-Dooper Hellfire-version Director's Cut of Ghost Rider (in theatres) with 46 additional minutes of Nic Cage wrestling angry demon-iguanas by tossing fiery jelly beans and pointing his finger at them.
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...EFNY, for what it is, is perfect and cannot be remade. This remake EFNY project is keyrap before it even gets made. As always, I feel for all the individuals out there with original concepts getting a pass so yet another movie can be remade into a pale and cheap (even if more $$ is spent) cgi-laden pathetic imitation of the original. And I wouldn't even want Carpenter to put down his Wii controller long enough to make a 3rd sequel as he hasn't directed anything worth a crap in well over a decade or 2. Leave well enough alone...EFLA was ass but still probably not as bad as a remake of EFNY would be.
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You heard it here first!
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Seriously, isn't I AM LEGEND pretty darn close to EFNY? At least it's amazing close in terms of vibe and scenario. Plus it's doubtful that this film can get off the ground with Gerard Butler starring. Uh, 300 was a hit because of it's amazing visuals - and that doesn't include Mr. Butler...
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Ratner is a competent guy and his films always look great. Its not like he writes them after all. I'd much rather see him direct this than a McG or Mr. Kate Beckinsale.
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sorry, but a decent director could have at least done something to mitigate the X3 crapfest. Like maybe making editorial choices that didn't look like they were slapped together. Or maybe one interesting camera angle. Or a single sweeping shot.
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Oct. 29, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST
I say it's time for some Ridley Scott talent squandering!
by Spandau Belly
Every now and then this guy just throws a good headscratcher into his resume. Movies that had no potential and you can't figure out why he took them on. Think G.I. Jane, White Squall, Hannibal, A Good Year. I see no reason why he wouldn't do this EFNY remake.<br><br>In fact, I'd like them to make a special box set of Ridley Scott's Talent Squandering Films featuring special introductions from Scott that clarify exactly what the hell he was thinking.
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Congratulations, you achieved something!! "Does that mean I'm good?!" No we didn't say that.
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Harry and this site have very little power regarding the ability to change how a film does financially. The one thing it could do is bring money to (extremely) small budget films that only need to do a million or two to be successful. Documentaries would be good examples of this. As far as other films, pretty much zero power. Examples: Snakes on a Plane, Grindhouse, etc. These films were pimped pretty much non-stop going up to release and they did horribly at the box office. There were almost as many articles about Grindhouse as people who went and saw it. This is not saying anything about the quality of the films pimped here, but it just shows that the potential box office impact based on things discussed on this site are minimal. On the flip side a movie like King of Kong could be helped by this site because $100,000 for a movie of that size is a major thing.
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Fan boy happy here!
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I tell ya, it's gold! Gold, I tell ya!<P> Michael Emerson for The President. And Michelle Forbes as Miranda Zero. I thank you.<P> You're very welcome.
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You're scarily good at this. And yes, I would buy a Ridley Scott Talent Squandering Box Set, and I dearly would love to see those introductions.<P> "Demi Moore going bald? Ties into the Middle East situation... No? Reminds me of the steel mills up in t'North of the UK... No? Okay, I got nothin'. Nothin', I tell ya. Just shuddup and wait for GLADIATOR 2."
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Oct. 29, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST
Excellent, now they can assign Rat to that Exorcist remake.
by Stalin vs Predator
And cast Denzel Washington and Dakota Fanning. By the way, Robocop was greenlit for remake a few months ago.
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Yeah, I think Ratner sucks and have never enjoyed anything he's done, ever. So what? I don't give a shit how much box office he's pulled in (by the way, the studios have been rigging those results for years. Besdides, they wouldn't be so impressive if you subtract the dvd sales) and I damn sure don't give a flying fuck what swedish supermodel he's currently banking. I don't care for his work and since this site is about discussing such things I'm going to damn well discuss it.You people can defend hom all you want but I think it's a travesty to spend that much money and make such mediocre movies. It's one thing to do that on a shoestring budget but when you have budgets in excess of 100 million you better fucking deliver because there's a line of much more talented and enthusiastic directors just waiting for the golden opportunities Ratner keeps taking for granted. It's no secret by the way that the only reason the man is making movies on the scale that he is becuase of his past connections. It pays to be a good friend of Michael Jackson back when it mattered. So fuck off with your box office results and your swedish supermodels because unless any of those scenarios involve me, i don't give a shit. How does Ratners large bank account or swanky hollywood parties help me enjoy his movies more? Oh, and by the way to all the Ratner defenders and to Brinx Cheer in particular: I don't like Ratners movies, okay? Now my question is, WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE? "Some people make movies so they can by a big house and a nice car. Others direct so they can date supermodels. I make movies because if I didn't I would be drunk and homeless." - David Fincher Yeah, and that's from a real filmmaker motherfuckers!
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......Harry plays the music, and you dance like the bitches you know you are. LOL! For today's class, let's see......um....we'll do....... something......... original like......um,......Oh, I know; hate on Ratner some more. Like the last 32,098 times.
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period.
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We're lemmings becuase we care to speak up about unabashed mediocrity.Oh, you know why that is? Because some of us on this site give a shit about the direction american film is taking. Excuse fuckin me. Not all of us can be self righteous enough to be "above it all" like you.
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I forgot you have to have passion to express a strong opinion on something. So forgive me if my opinions actually come with a point of view.
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John Carpenter. Please man for your fans speak up and don't let them do this to your work. I'm sure someones gonna respond and tell me that Carpenter is behind this or something but I hope thats not the case. But fuck it I'd love to see a third installment and a sixth collaboration from John and Kurt even though thats probly asking a lot. by the way Ratner sucks, nothing hes done has been beyond mediocre hes just a director for hire and a shitty one at that but Ill give him this, the guy knows how to network. hes been able to wiesel his way into more than one golden franchise and bring them crumbling down, thats why hes infamous amongst true film lovers. theres no artistry or passion what so ever, at least not to my cinema loving eyes. and I have to admit that when I learned he was doing X3 I was very upset, and more so after seeing the movie. Stick to the comedy man please
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Thanks man. I've always enjoyed your posts as well brother so that's appreciated. And ClockWorker, your right about Ratner being a great networker. He's nothing if he's not that. I have to give him props for his schmoozing skills because like it or not that's part of the job and anyone who wants to be in the directors chair has to be able to do that just a little bit. Well, Ratners' a schmoozer extrodinaire. Of course the opposite can work too: you know, to be super fucking talented but a weird anti social freak. For some reason, people in Hollywood love that just as much.
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I almost can't THINK of better news. Okay, if they dropped this idea altogether, that would be great, but if they're gonna go ahead and reinvent the Snake at least Ratner won't be doing it.
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WB should hire Ratner to do sequels to every film in the Kubrick library. PATHS OF GLORY 2: RUMBLE IN DA SANDBOX
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Yeah, we can dump on Brett Ratner for X3's and his millions of Rush Hour sequels. However, isn't the biggest injustice the fact that this movie is going to be remade at all? Does it need to be remade? Who the hell would ever be a better Snake Plissken? I bet if you got the best director in the world on it, it will still turn out to be awful.
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What the fuck has Ratner contributed to cinema? Hey, anyone want to create an award for Ratner, pay for him to fly in and receive it, and then we can tar&feather him ????
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If NOBODY goes to see these movies, they go the way of HOSTEL 2 and fuck up the film-makers that make them. Since H2, Eli Roth is now avowing to tone down the gore etc and make other movies. Maybe if enough people DIDN'T watch these pointless fucking remakes, Ratner could go back to fucking supermodels and sucking Robert Evans off and maybe Uwe Boll could go back to plotting world domination. Don't much care where the fuck that WS Andershite goes back to.<P> And when you hear people you know talking about going to see a pointless remake... SMACK THE FUCKERS IN THE MOUTH!!!<P> Extreme? Watch THE FOG and tell me that. Seriously.
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While it's admirable to see the kind of passion for cinema that you two obviously have spilling all over the keyboards of this fair talkback (which is a whole other kind of passion compared to what spilled all over the Megan Fox talkback fnar fnar), it's the worrying condescending tone you both give out that worries me. It's fine that you know more about film than most - good for you, we can all learn from your knowledge - but it doesn't make you a better person, and it's important to remember that. M-o-M - I know you get that, we disagree SEVERELY on the merits of BAD BOYS 2 but I think there's a healthy respect there for each other despite the yawning chasm of Baylove/hate. We just need to talk to each other on a basic level of respect and understanding, not going off on one because we have more passion, therefore more of a right to a point of view. We are all God's creatures, we are all beautiful and unique snowflakes (Tyler Durden's uber-nihilism notwithstanding).<P> All I'm saying is, chill out - this shit isn't worth an embolism over. The people on these TBs that don't understand you, probably never will. Treasure your ability to discern dreck from gold, and keep the faith. Fincher will reward you for it - when he finally gets back to a reunion with Palahniuk.
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Like you boycotted Rob Zombies Halloween, cause that worked!!!!!!
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Even though I dont care too see this movie remade. Whats next The Thing.. Hope not!
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Like he doesn't have an internet connection and the ability to check out aintitcool from time to time. Yes I do believe he is actually that pathetic. Now Brett, can I call you Brett? too bad. Stop showing up at hip-hop events like you're someone. You're not. Just stop. Also, X-men 3 wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be, but you could have fought a lot harder. In my book, you're a pussy. A big weak pussy, and that's why when your name is attached to a project people have strong feelings about it evokes a painful groan.
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That's so telling of the state of this country's film festivals. I attended the little known Jacksonville Film Festival last year and they gave their "Lifetime Achievement Award" to some Joe who wrote and directed the Travolta limited release film "Lonely Hearts," and that was the only thing he'd ever done, and probably will ever do! These cherry picking film festivals that keep popping up all over the country would sell their Grandmothers down the river if they could get the attention of a major film studio or any celebrity willing to attend their obscure events. It's all a business. Hence, all these stupid "Lifetime Achievement Awards" for hacks like Brett Ratner.
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...he is able to direct movies in the studio system and get paid big bucks for it while running on what little actual talent he actually has. For that, maybe he does deserve a Lifetime Achievement Award...
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28 weeks later dir.
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And I oppose hate when it's scripted. Bring a little humanity to this place, instead of marching in step with the I Hate _______ Brigade.
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Now that I got your attention: I kinda liked X3. <p>But that doesn't mean that The Rat isn't a hack.
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Oct. 30, 2007, 4:15 a.m. CST
Fresnadillo or Blomkamp, suits should go for leftfield directori
by KillaKane
This really needs a hungry and talented eye. I'd love to see what the likes of Alexandre Aja could do with this property. Please no more Shitseltown hacks on EFNY. Fingers crossed...
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Straight to the stars, indeed!
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