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Which Supervillains Must Contend With The JUSTICE LEAGUE??

I am – Hercules!!
A reputable (if technically untested) source says he’s read the new “Justice League” script and lived to tell of it. This info below is teeming with major spoilers (especially if you haven’t read any DC Comics in a few years), so we have cloaked our source's answers in the miracle that is invisotext. Keep in mind that this is a script that was maybe written before George Miller came aboard the project as director a few weeks ago. Since Miller typically writes or co-writes the movies he directs, things could change by the time “League” makes the leap to cinemas.

Justice League FAQ Does the Justice League exist at the start of the film? It does not. Has Batman met all the superheroes he has under surveillance? Yes. Are the heroes surprised Batman knows all their secret identities? No. Does Lois or Luthor appear in the movie? Lois is mentioned; no Lex. With which supervillains must the League contend? Maxwell Lord, Talia al Ghul (daughter of “Batman Begins’” Ra’s al Ghul) and the Omacs. Does Superman have a big part? Superman has a huge part as well as a huge fight with Wonder Woman and Batman. Do Wonder Woman and Batman team up against Superman? Diana does team up with Batman against Superman. Whose side is Martian Manhunter on? Martian Manhunter is not involved nor is anyone else, they are all fighting other people or hurt. Does Aquaman have a big part? Not so much. Do we get to see Atlantis or Themyscira? We see Atlantis briefly, no Paradise Island. Do we get to see Green Lantern's Guardians or other members of the GL Corps? Not at all. Do Hawkman, The Atom, Green Arrow, Zatanna, Hal Jordan or Black Canary appear and/or exist in this universe?? No. A living, breathing Barry Allen appears in the script. Is Wally West in the movie as well? Both Wally and Barry are heavily featured in the film, and are the best written characters in the script. Are Aquaman, Wonder Woman, The Flash(es), Batman, Superman, John Stewart and J'onn J'onzz the only DC superheroes in the movie? Yes. What’s the best thing about the script? Best thing about the script besides all the Flashes stuff is the fight with Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. Is that Barry Allen’s funeral at the start of the script? Yes.

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  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:44 p.m. CST

    by isispop

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST

    !st time 1st

    by isispop

    ...and this movie will be 1 big mess.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Um....yah...

    by DJB

    We'll see....so far I'm not impressed. For my FULL opinion find my comment on the WONDER WOMAN CASTING post. DJB

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    I love this

    by Jor-El23

    I think it's fantastic if all of this is true. I do think however that this plot would be better for a second JLA movie.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    by Omar B

    Still pisses me off that they are killing Barry off in what I'm assuming is the first movie of a series. Shoulda kept Barry around for at least 3.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:52 p.m. CST

    by ironic_name

    legion!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Again

    by Jor-El23

    this should be the plot of the second movie. it seems weird to just throw the audience into this scenario whereby batman is spying on everyone else. what's his motivation? the first movie should be the Grant Morrison JLA 1-4 plot, or some variation. i know it's been done in the cartoon but how great would that be in a 2 hour movie? Meeting J'onn, getting the league together. i know origin stories suck but you don't have to do origins of the individual heroes, just the league. then kill Barry off at the end of the first one, maybe have something involving Superman being taken over by the martians or whatever, hence Batman needing to spy on everyone. Save Max Lord and the omacs for the second movie and then in the third one reveal that Braniac or Darkseid or whoever is behind the whole thing. Wham! Greatest trilogy since the Original Trilogy.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Got me excited. But not that much.

    by The Chosen

    Still think it's dumb to do a JLA movie now.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST

    But do we get to see the Guardians?

    by Raymar

    I wonder how they'll handle all the GL stuff.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST

    by ironic_name

    superman would kill batman easily. <P> you know it to be true.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Who has the biggest part - Superman or Aquaman?

    by BenBraddock

    That sounds like a whole other film..

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Justice

    by MC-909

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:58 p.m. CST

    The GL stuff

    by Jor-El23

    gets handled in the eventual GL movie which I'm sure will happen if the JLA movie is successful. It makes perfect sense to do a JLA movie now, or at least before a Flash, GL, Wonder Woman, Manhunter, whatever...movie. Casual moviegoers know Batman and Superman because they've both had wildly successful film franchises in the past. They're the most iconic DC characters, far and away.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Justice League

    by MC-909

    I thought this was about a women's baseball team. What the fuck are all these superheroes doing in it

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Could go either way

    by Mezzanine

    I think the idea of a Justice League movie is pretty stupid at this point, especially if they ignore completely ignore the Batman and Superman movies. But I will say that I would love to see a fight between Supes, Bats, and Wonder Woman... as long as it lasts twenty minutes and is fucking balls to the walls. I also think that Robin should be in this movie, and the little fucker should be killed by the man of steel. I want a writers credit, goddammit!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1 p.m. CST

    This is a fanboy movie

    by Jor-El23

    of epic proportions. Say what you will about X-Men or other Marvel movies but Batman and Superman are the most well-known superheroes ever. I'm not a Marvel hater, I'm just saying they're iconic. To put two of the same movie along with Wonder Woman and the rest is HUGE. This will be the biggest superhero movie ever.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:01 p.m. CST

    This info COULD be true, BUT...

    by Abin Sur

    ...not because it came from a "source," but because the idiot just guessed right. I am at my wit's end with JL spoilers...prime example, Miller has already said it's being called simply JUSTICE LEAGUE...but you still have all these jokers coming out with "spoilers" for the Justice League OF AMERICA movie? Do you guys even know what you're talking about?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:03 p.m. CST

    by Dylan2e

    How do they know that those other League members don't even EXIST in this universe? Isn't it possible that they might appear in sequels or spin-offs something?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST

    No Guy Gardner? OUTRAGE!

    by GuyGardner

    Kidding, sort of.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:05 p.m. CST

    This is the most underwhelming movie...

    by blckmgk13

    since Spiderman 3. But I was actually stoked to see Spiderman 3, and it wasn't until I was in the theatre that I realized it was a huge piece of turd. Whereas this.... this is reeking of shit from the get go. Just sayin...

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:06 p.m. CST

    An addendum...

    by Abin Sur

    OK, it came from guessing AND from spoilers that have been out for months. IF Maxwell Lord is featured in the movie, they damn well better get Sam Neill to play him - any self respecting comic geek would know that the Max Lord of the comics was modeled EXACTLY after Neill. That would be a very cool gift to the fans.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:07 p.m. CST

    JLA: Teen Slapfight

    by Aquatarkusman

    How are a bunch of no-name 19 year olds going to pull this off? It's a rhetorical question, sizzlechest! P.S. No Black Manta, No Peace. Know Black Manta, Know Peace.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:07 p.m. CST

    would have prefered an alien invasion

    by ironic_name

    like the first ep of justice leage. <P> big white alien walkers.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Weak villains if you ask me

    by drewlicious

    I mean granted Maxwell Lord is a good schemer but Talia Al Ghul? These are pretty obscure villains if you ask me. At least throw a couple of the freaks into the mix. You've got Shade, Rampage, Metallo, Volcana, the White Martians, Grod, Solomon Grundy. It just feels like a cheat that the worst the JLA will face are a bunch of robots. I'm not saying these any of these villains have to be the big bad, they could be dealt with in some introductory fight or something but Brother Eye just seems like a copout.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST

    No Black Manta, no cry

    by ironic_name

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Wow this project is coming together fast...

    by IAmLegolas

    wasn't it just a few months ago they ordered a script to be written? Yeah... this movie will be good... *rolls eyes*

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:13 p.m. CST

    The stuff fanboy wet dreams are made of

    by nerosday

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Bad Manta Starring Billy Bob Thornton

    by Aquatarkusman

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST

    So right

    by jelac07

    This movie, while it is a good idea, should not be made now. It should wait a few years....like until the new Batman and Supes are finished with whatever they are doing. Kinda pisses me off that they are doing this right now and with crappy no name actors

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Jor-El23

    by tha plow

    you are wrong! this movie will be a disaster. remember spider-man 3? three villians=too many. same with super heroes. maybe those making the movie think that they don't have to develop these characters onscreen since everyone is so familiar with them. they are wrong. it sounds like they are going to focus on the flash like they did with wolverine in the x-men, which is the only reason it worked. but if you leave out superman and batman too much then fanboys and casual audiences will both be bored. most people don't care about the flash. what do i know? it will still make millions. but i bet it will make only about the same the fantastic four movies.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST

    anal beef

    by ironic_name

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Sam Neill / Maxwell Lord

    by GCH888

    I remember reading Justice League International during the 1990s and I'm pretty certain Maxwell Lord was drawn to match the features of actor Sam Neill. My concern is that Maxwell Lord will just be another wannabe Lex Luthor megalomaniac villain

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:21 p.m. CST

    dc/warners made catwoman

    by ironic_name

    and batman begins, this might be good, but it could cause ppls eyes to bleed.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Heroes fighting Superman? Boo!

    by stones_throw

    It was twenty years ago; get over DARK KNIGHT RETURNS already.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Guys, you have to put some faith in George Miller.

    by Hercules

    Dude doesn't make shitty movies. Now if Miller quits at some point, that's your cue to fret.

  • oh, come on every last one of you nay sayers will still see the damn thing, we always do. We bitch and moan and throw out this difference and that character and this casting and that line, but in the end we are the fanboy nation. Its in our blood to see this shit no matter what, and to shell out $40 bucks to take our girlfriends and wives to the theater with us kicking and screaming, and then buy the DVD in six months. not the standard DVD mind you, but the extended directors cut unrated special editions that cost 50% more. and still we will do this. and still we will bitch. and still we will drool because this is our childhoods made flesh, whether taught and senewy or crusty and flabby it is there in the flesh. My god people can we not just be glad these movies are even being made? I'm a second generation comic geek and my dad tells me anytime a new one of these things comes out,"my God, isn't this great, J?" And I say "you know what it is, dad." even if its a steaming turd, its ours. For once we get to share the things we have always been mildly ridiculed for our whole lives with the non fanboys out there and everyone eats it up with a spoon. All we can hope for is that the right director and script and cast mesh, and that's hard to do, even with a no comic movie, but when it does...Spidey 1 and 2, first half of 3, X2, Batman Begins, 300, Sin City, the feeling of SR if not the execution, about 2 seconds of DD before Affleck shows up, animated Bats, Supes, and JLA and JLU. All I'm saying is give it time. Millers a good guy, these are great characters, and this is JL. The spectical of a shit movie alone would be enough for most people. If there is no substance...reboot. Maybe by the time the reboot comes around, we'll be able to share a great JL movie with our kids if this one disapoints us. Patience. it will come.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    err, that actually seems kinda cool

    by warp11

    Weren't the OMACS some sort of AI program created by Batman that became self aware and had their own agenda?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    I'm keeping hope alive, fingers and toes crossed.

    by JDanielP

    THIS could be OUR new STAR WARS, it has THAT much potential.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    OMACs

    by Abin Sur

    The original OMAC was a creation of Jack Kirby...as for the current version, I forget how they're related to Brother Eye other than the Eye triggers the change in certain people to become OMACs. As far as villains go, they're a good idea...the design in the comics is really cool, they're tough-as-nails fighters, but they can also make good fodder for big epic battles (I can see Supes fighting multiple OMACs in my geeky dreams).

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    "Omacs" should be "OMACs"

    by SpyGuy

    OMAC is short for One-Man Army Corps. And since THE OMAC PROJECT, the mini-series that this film is apparently based upon, featured regular people becoming OMACs, it's probably a safe bet that Superman becomes an OMAC at some point and Batman and Wonder Woman have to take him out. No DARK KNIGHT RETURNS rehash here.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    What makes George Miller a good director?

    by Savio

    I keep reading about how everyone has faith in this movie because he's directing it. Looking on his IMDB page there are nothing but ok movies. Babe Pig in the City? Witches of Eastwick? Happy Feet? What's the big deal? It looks barely mediocre to me. I know it doesnt matter, but every single one of his movies is rated below a 7. What makes him so great?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah...OMAC=One Man Army Corps

    by Abin Sur

    That was the original Kirby creation.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    I'm just sick of robots....

    by drewlicious

    Except the giant kind, of course. I haven't seen enough of that yet. But come on, AI characters have no selfish motives. They follow their programming to its logical conclusion. Boring. On top of that all of them look alike because they're a collective. No personality, no fun.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:38 p.m. CST

    If they hire Kate Winslet for WONDER WOMAN & Henry Simmons for G

    by JDanielP

    ...then I will experience a true geek meltdown of pure joy.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:41 p.m. CST

    nerosday

    by ironic_name

    yep, they will. <P> it may be good.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Capt. Jack as Superman!!

    by MetalMickey

    John Barrowman from TORCHWOOD for Supes. I just see it.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST

    WOW...now I know how the Bayformers defenders felt...

    by Brians Life

    It's absolutely amazing how quickly you guys are capable of writing something off based on the smallest amount of information...especially considering that this information contains within it the GEORGE MILLER is directing this and probably taking a pass at re-writing it....

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST

    No Gorilla Grodd? No Sinestro? No Toyman?

    by Baron Karza

    Who are they fighting again? Oh yea, Liam Neeson.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST

    I want some damn supervillains in this movie.

    by Reel American Hero

    This movie almost sounded awesome, I had hope of some supervillain/hero action the likes of which we haven't seen on screen yet in a team superhero movie and we get a guy in a business suit, another non super villain, and a bunch of robots. WTF. I don't care if they're super robots or whatever, it's fucking robots.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    kirby's OMAC was pompous and boastfull

    by ironic_name

    but he backed it up. <P> a hilarious character. <P> what was up with the monster Omacs on azzerrelo's 'for tomorrow'. where are they?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    stupid

    by Rupee88

    They are supposed to be a team...and why do we want to see Superman fighting a girl? So big fucking deal if he wins...it's a chick. Like the fight between Wolverine and that chick in X2...just dumb. This movie will be a FF-style clusterfuck that will make money but will appeal the lowest common denominator.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST

    No Black Mantis? No Solomon Grundy?

    by Baron Karza

    Eh?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Savio....if you have to ask

    by Brians Life

    ...than you'll never know. Mattman Returns, I agree that it's ALOT of costumes to be on screen at once, but that's not to say that it's IMPOSSIBLE. Either the corniness will be embraced and it will be like "hey, this is a world with costumed" heroes....I mean, did any of you ever second guess why some post-apocolyptic thug would sport eye paint and football pads?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST

    and where is Starro the Conqueror???

    by Rupee88

    We all know a big evil alien starfish would translate seamlessly from the comics page to film...

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST

    If they hire Kate Winslet for WONDER WOMAN......

    by JDanielP

    (not to mention Henry Simmons for GREEN LANTERN)...then it will be all the remaining proof we need that this will be MUCH MORE than a FANTASTIC FOUR flick. This project, I feel, could be the LORD OF THE RINGS of superhero movies. This can be so huge. - Warner Bros., spare no expense!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Is it just me

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Or was that article full of questions, and no answers?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:48 p.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure that Miller IS tweaking the script...

    by Abin Sur

    One of the more reliable JL news sites stated over a month ago that George Miller is such a fan of the Martian Manhunter that he's the reason he's now in the movie...and thanks to Miller, we now have all 7 of the original Leaguers from the comics (minus the Hal GL - don't get me started) in the movie. That shows me that he IS invested in this movie enough to put in a character that honestly the general public would say "huh?" when they heard his name.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Flash's erotic journey from Milan to Minsk?

    by Baron Karza

    All flash? He is not compelling enough for this script load.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Abominable Snowcone...

    by GeekyAnimeNerd79Beyotch

    I'm going to imagine you are joking.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Rupee88...and POTENTIAL SPOILERS

    by Brians Life

    The Superman fighting Wonder Woman is directly lifted from recent issues of DC's comic books. MAXWELL LORD (a movie villian) has the ability to control minds and makes Superman battle Wonder Woman. After a long battle in which Wonder Woman slits Superman's throat withher crown, she has Maxwell Lord apprehended and asks "HOW DO I STOP THIS!?!?" to which Lord sarcastically replies: "Kill me!" In a move very against her character, Wonder Woman takes Maxwell Lord by the chin and turns his head completely around....breaking his neck...DOPE OR NOT DOPE!?!?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Also

    by GeekyAnimeNerd79Beyotch

    Guys, I have never been into comics but this movie sounds pretty good. Where can I go to play catch up without having to read the comics?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Wait...Abin Sur...are you happy or unhappy?

    by Brians Life

    I'm trying to guage how you feel about this project. See you talking and you generally seem to know what you're talking about.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Brians Life...

    by Abin Sur

    That was the "Superman: Sacrifice" storyline, and that ROCKED. I think that's exactly what they're doing in the movie, with the mind control and such.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    black mantis?

    by ironic_name

    carl lumbly was in m.a.n.t.i.s. and played j'onn in justice league. <P> back to laughing at bitchy tbers

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    GeekyAnimeNerd

    by Brians Life

    If you haven't check out AT LEAST seasons 1 and 2 of Justice League Unlimited on DVD....if you're interested in the whole anthology than also get the 2 seasons of Justice League that came before....other than that, start readding comics...

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Abin Sur is STILL smart.

    by Brians Life

    I agree. Probably the best storyline to come out of Infinite Crisis (Superboy dying just didn't seem BIG enuff)...IF Miller stays on this project I will continue to have high hopes. Some disagree, but he has yet to make a truly BAD movie in my opinion (Beyond Thunderdome can be forgiven simply for the sheer hilarity of Tina Turner's hair)

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 1:55 p.m. CST

    GeekyAnimeNerd: Try a little thing called "Wikipedia"

    by SpyGuy

    If you can't appreciate comic books/graphic novels, an actual art form, then your best bet is probably Wikipedia or DC Comics' official website. But with the comics, you get actual stories that are entertaining. It's okay, go ahead and try one. They won't bite.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2 p.m. CST

    carl lumbly as john jones

    by ironic_name

    and marty man-hunger.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Brians Life, I'm HAPPY

    by Abin Sur

    And I'll stay happy until something makes me feel otherwise...but nothing yet has. George Miller is an accomplished director who's made strong films over several genres (action, comedy, family, even animated) and he's one of those "actor's directors" that you hear about that can pull a good performance out of just about anyone he works with. Also, you've got Barrie Osborne producing along with Miller's brother - Osborne has been behind some of the biggest movies of the past ten years, including both the Matrix AND LOTR trilogies. That guy doesn't know how to back a crappy project. We've got a script from the Mulroney writing team that Warner Brothers FLIPPED over - and they really did. How often do you read in the trades or in the mainstream about how much a studio loves a SCRIPT? Very rarely...another indication this is something special. We've got WETA already onboard to design the costumes, and since production is taking place in Australia, it's a fairly safe bet to say that WETA will be the effects house for this movie. We know that this movie is budgeted for AT LEAST $140 million - that's one of the reasons Miller was brought in (originally David Slade - director of "30 Days of Night" was the top contender for directing JL, but when the budget topped 100 mil, Warners rightfully went to someone with more experience managing large productions - Miller is an accomplished PRODUCER in his own right as well) - that's money we will see ON SCREEN, because Miller doesn't see the need to spend all his dough on NAME actors. I've got lots of reasons to be happy right now for this project - I don't think the public is too stupid or fickle to have more than one person playing a superhero onscreen, and I don't think that this needs to wait on anyone else's franchise - if it's GOOD, it's GOOD - and that's good for the DC movie universe no matter how you slice it. Some people are just scared because it's happening fast in Hollywood terms - no ten year development hell. I'm telling you guys - DON'T BE AFRAID. Try to look forward to this! Have some fun!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:07 p.m. CST

    MO-CAP SUCKS

    by PVIII

    How does everyone not understand this.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I can't wait for the inevitable superhero backlash

    by honestune

    Remember Superman IV? Remember how long it took to get a decent superhero movie after that? Why must they flog the genre like a dead horse? One Batman/Superman on the big screen at a time (Unless someone has the sacks to greenlight The Dark Knight Returns)!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I'd say something, but Abin Sur already said it.

    by Brians Life

    So, I'll just say this: Word.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:09 p.m. CST

    jett

    by ironic_name

    batman: dead end.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:09 p.m. CST

    PVIII

    by Brians Life

    I agree...this movie WILL NOT be motion captured.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Aquaman sucks

    by fiester

    The smartest thing the JLU series did was pretty much write him out of the ongoing show.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:15 p.m. CST

    I heard Maxwell Lord is the only villain.

    by Ash Talon

    I heard a short review of the script about a month ago, but I've been sitting on the info. My friend said JL is probably the best DC movie script, but he liked Superman Returns so his taste is very questionable. Anyway, he said that Maxwell Lord is the only villain in the script. So guess who the JL fight? Themselves. Can you imagine how lame that will be? Not being a fan of DC, I didn't really care to ask too many other questions.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:16 p.m. CST

    The script sounds good, but

    by Live.

    the casting is a big question mark. WB just needs to get off their ass and announce it already. Then we'll really know which direction this flick is moving in.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Soooooo....

    by TiPPiDa

    This is a "infinite Crisis" movie then... or at least a "Countdown to infinite crisis" movie. Hmmm.... cool! Not the Kingdom Come I was hoping for but ahh what are ya gonna do.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Oh, the "Faith in the Director" Card

    by Aquatarkusman

    The last refuge of a scoundrel. "Hey everyone! Stanley Kubrick is going to adapt some obscure Austrian short story with a gay Scientologist midget and his beard as romantic leads! Hey, he made Dr. Strangelove 35 years ago! Show some faith!" Well, these are nothing supervillains battling a cast of no-name, too-young actors for somebody who hasn't made anything approaching an action movie in 22 years. And nothing that doesn't star talking animals since LORENZO'S FUCKING OIL in 1992.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:22 p.m. CST

    same rumors

    by notbad

    These are the same rumors I've been hearing for a while. Doesn't sound like new information. Not sure if that makes it old, outdated info or solid info coming from another source.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    "Do Wonder Woman and Batman team up against Superman?"

    by Shigeru

    LOL kind of gave it away there in the question, genius.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    "LORENZO

    by Abin Sur

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST

    "LORENZO'S FUCKING OIL?"

    by Abin Sur

    Is that like Astroglide?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Fuck George Miller

    by Thenedain

    Oh yeah.. the guy's great. Made some decent flicks: 20 years ago. What's he done recently? Kiddie movies. No doubt he's probably another of the idiot Hollywood brigade who still thinks comic books are for little kids. Sorry, George, you're using Tower of Babel and The OMAC Project for your script, and that's definitely not just kiddie material. JLA is NOT a movie about friggin' penguins. Got that?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    this will bomb

    by Pipple

    I've seen better written fanfilms done by some average joes

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Newsflash!

    by Thenedain

    Schumacher made a decent movie 20 years ago too! Let's get him to direct a new Batman movie! Oh... wait...

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST

    After reading this talkback a little more...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...I kinda hope this movie DOES suck, just so the doomsayers can say "I told you so!" Because, damn, many of you apparently are in desperate need of something to feel good about... you dour buncha fucks. There's less crying in the toy aisle around Christmas than there is in this talkback.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    know who else made a good flick 20-30 years ago?

    by Shigeru

    Rhymes with Borge Dookus

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Thanks Guys, I needed a laugh.

    by Brians Life

    Man, I watched FIDO this morning and thought that was gonna be my comedic fill of the day...but alas NO, I've got a talkbacker that deconstructs Kubrick via Eyes Wide Shut and ANOTHER that apparently compares Shumacher to Miller and believes that to be good enough reason not to like this movie. Again, thanks guys.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    WAIT...I almost forgot...this line is great...

    by Brians Life

    Playing the it's got a great director card is the LAST REFUGE OF A SCOUNDREL! HAH! Priceless...really, you CAN'T write that shit. One might argue that playing the "it's got a great key grip" card is the last refuge of a scoundrel...than again, one MIGHT leave the word scoundrel out of any intelligent discussion of film.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Is that like Astroglide?

    by ironic_name

    hehehehehehe

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST

    You know who else made a good flick 20 years ago?

    by Abin Sur

    Ron Jeremy. I think the name of that movie was "LORENZO'S FUCKING OIL."

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:04 p.m. CST

    No Green Arrow??!!! WTF!

    by Mike_D

    Im gonna cry.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Invisotext

    by LazyDolphin

    Doesn't work so well when you've got a gradient as your background. Those last few questions are pretty blatantly viso.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Micheal Keaton as batman

    by eric haislar

    I know he is old, but a old batman would be cool and At least then we would have some sort of universe that thee films could take place in. anyone agree?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    i can't believe miller...

    by blackthought

    wouldn't re-write some of this so he can have oswald chesterfield cobblepot in this wreaking havoc upon dc's finest.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST

    this has GREAT potential. they have to handle it like lord of th

    by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG

    if they handle this seriously, it will do great...if they make this the OC of superhero movies, forget it.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Please Use Metallo

    by Aquatarkusman

    And, to be faithful to the animated SUperman series, get Malcolm McDowell to play him, except rip his head off, stick it on top of a robot body, and invent krpytonite to be its power source. Have him say "welly well well" upon first meeting the 5'6" 14-year-old with acne that will inevitably be cast as Superman.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Miler DOES make SHITTY movies

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    yes Mad Max is good, okay. but what has he done since then? BABE? HAPPY FEET? This guy lost his way LOOOOOOONG ago.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Just make a Flash movie

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    THAT i'm interested in - not this trainwreck. ad who the hell are these lame-ass villains?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:27 p.m. CST

    shuttlepod I HAVENT MADE A MOVIE EVER

    by ironic_name

    10

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    flash would bomb

    by ironic_name

    he sucks

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    George Miller

    by Brians Life

    I KNOW I'm not in the minority, although I may be HERE...but with all this harping about Miller you'd think that the ONLY movie he made was Mad Max. This guy is well-known for turning down projects and has also made damn good movies that cross all genres....did NO ONE like Witches of Eastwick? Did NO ONE like Happy Feet or Babe of Babe 2? Didn't anyone else think that the fourth segment of the Twilight Zone was fucking awesome?! Didn't anyoe else here think that Happy Feet was a rarity in children's entertainment....I feel like Donald Rumsfeld dealing with reporters.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST

    This may be an actual "comic book movie"

    by modlight

    There is too much going on to spend the first hour introducing everyone leaving the rest to a little story at the end. They could make this a layered full story. I don't read DC anymore so I don't know who the villains are beyond Ras's daughter but a quick wiki search on the Omacs make me very excited.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Kilmer was decent bats

    by drewlicious

    Too bad he's so fat now.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah and John Hamm as Batman please

    by modlight

    wanna keep that going.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST

    I'm not even a big George Miller fan...

    by Brians Life

    I just think he's a damn good director AND a damn good writer...would I rather a guy that's gonna make an explosion fill the screen be his priority in making this movie...HELL NO! I want some one that is not only a fan of the material (Miller is), but some one that will sculpt characters with motivations, flaws and actiosn that we understand and feel for...WHAT A CRAZY FUCKING IDEA!?!?!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Does Superman have a big part?

    by ironic_name

    hehehhehehehe!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Aquaman's a pussy

    by aboriginal

    But no GL's? AWWWWWWWWWWWWWHELLLLLLLLLLLLNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST

    This sounds really great

    by monorail77

    I hope its the start of a slough of new superhero team-up movies. We already saw an inkling with the team-up of sorts (for both heros and villains) in Spiderman 3. I think Justice League may revitalize the super-hero movie genre. Lets hope so.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Haha such crap for Miller for doing kids films.

    by modlight

    I'm sorry exactly what age were you when you started reading Justice League and Superman and Batman comics? Or do you want a hyper violent adult version of this film that will alienate the majority of the potential audience thereby dooming it and later films like it to financial failure? The way I see it Miller produced children's films that were very mature in their treatment of issues and stories that affect people of all ages and that is precisely the delicate touch that a film like this needs.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Again, I laugh.....

    by Brians Life

    George Miller has LOST his way since Mas Max...I just read that. One of you just wrote that. There are some that would say his best stuff came AFTER Mad Max, but you probably haven't seen most of those movies. Man, I need to have a week off more often. This is makin' me feel GOOD! John Hamm as Batman...hmmm. I think i saw some one say Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern...if they were goin Hal Jordan I think that'd be perfect!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Also, re the Flash(es)

    by monorail77

    With such attention in the JL script, maybe they're setting up Flash to be hero of his own movies a la Wolverine. Hope so. Would love to see it. Gotta say I'm disappointed no Green Arrow, but whatever.

  • like George Miller, his name was Richard Donner

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    aquaman is a rude bastard in jlu

    by ironic_name

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Cut off! Should have read

    by zooch

    I can think of another good genre director that was given a huge superhero franchise like George Miller, his name was Richard Donner.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Lets place bets on when this project will be called off

    by WolfmanNards

    I say sometime within the next 3-4 months. This seems far too great. There's no way it's gonna be made.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Evil Dead came out 20 years before Spiderman

    by zooch

    Look what it did for Sam Raimi

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:48 p.m. CST

    FIRST!

    by Jonas Grumpy

    Fuck!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Shuttlepod_10

    by Brians Life

    Smallville DOESN'T do this much better. I'm sorry if you think so. Hold on, gotta back up...in fairness, I didn't see the JUSTICE episode, but I've seen enough to write the show off as mediocre and the "line up" promo photos looked terrible. Also, just curious, but making the Flash Bart Allen and writing off Wally West, Jay Garrick and Barry Allen as his alias...this is true to the characters how?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    No Lex?!!???!

    by Judge Briggs

    LAME

  • ... wasn't enough for WB to mess up with its audience, they HAVE to bring a villain named 'al Ghul'. Why not casting all supporting actors of Batman Begins (since Bale has stated so many times he'd prefer death by horsefuckage than being anyway related to this stinkbomb) on this movie too? You know, Caine as Alfred, Freeman as Fox, oh fuck it, put Ledger as the Joker as well. Then, when Batman Begins 3 is released, just pretend none of this has ever happened, as I'm certain the majority of the world will probably end up doing anyway.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:54 p.m. CST

    "Yeah, because releasing a Batman's kiddie flick in.."

    by Vesuvio

    "between two real Batman movies".. that was supposed to be the title of my previous post.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    If this is all true

    by Varakor

    Ok I am in only to see Bats and Supes goin at it. Should be interesting indeed, can't wait for the full cast and Miller should consider an older Batman if anything. I still Vote Keaton.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    There's a big, big difference between Babe 2, and A Simple Plan

    by Reel American Hero

    Sam Raimi in the 20 years between Evil Dead and Spider-Man, made worthwhile, if not at the least entertaining movies. George Miller has been doing crap movies since then.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Smallville loses points for Green Arrows costume

    by modlight

    shiney rubber vest? real tough. And I'm sorry I'll start watching that show when he flies around wearing the cape and the S and lives in Metropolis.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Babe 2: Pig in the City and Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior...

    by bswise

    ...are classics.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Waitaminute...are some of you seriously confused by this?

    by Brians Life

    I mean that there will be 2 Batmans, and 2 Supermans running around...is this causing some of you grief 'cause you can't get it straight in your heads? I'm curious, cause my girlfriend's sister is the same way. Like she couldn't accept that Batman Begins was a relaunch because other Batman movies existed. WOW! I mean, I think if WB execs (notoriously stupid and famous for underestimating the movie-going public) are bold enough to say "DO IT!" and give 140 million to Miller to do it...well, if you're dumber than a movie studio exec maybe you should just sit this one out.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Shuttlepod_10

    by Brians Life

    It's not that I don't believe you, I just can't think of a better way to put it. Maybe I'm wrong, but they DID use the name Barry Allen. It was one of Bart's fake IDs. Just looking for some consistency.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Reel American Hero

    by Brians Life

    I agree. A Simple Plan was well-acted and well-directed, but I have had NO interest in seeing the movie since hte first time. Babe 2, is easily one of the most entertaining and subversive children's movies in the last 10 years. I don't really like comparing directors, you can really get into some matters of merely personal taste doing that.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Fool us once, shame on us...

    by tme2nsb

    Fool use twice, shame on WB. Are you people really this dumb to believe these rumors? They lied to us about Supes, now they are lying to us about the villians---for shame!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Brian : but this movie WILL make a shitload of money

    by Vesuvio

    There's a big difference between studio suits showing 'respect' for their public, and simply going out for the easy bucks by greenlighting a premise that simply cannot fail in this days of comic heroes on the big screen. Studios couldn't care less about the integrity of their franchises, they KNOW both BB3 and Man of Steel will do big on the BOX, doesn't matter how fucked up JL turns out to be.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Sorry, that reads BXO

    by Vesuvio

    If anything, this should be Smallville: the Movie... use all actors from the series which is already stablished, then bring Wonder Woman and Batman into the mix. If JL starts out a new franchise, which will most likely do, next years will be a mess for DC heroes on the screen.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Vesuvio...I agree with you completely

    by Brians Life

    If my previous posts made it seem that I am, in any way, showing that I have faith in movie studio execs looking past the bottom line...than I apologize. That said, this is not a rush into production with the smallest possible budget and the campiest music video director we can find....this is at least 140 million and George Miller, who is casting no names so that we can see most of that 140 million on the big screen and Weta doing suits and possibly visual effects. Also, I hope you weren't quoting me with the "respect" thing...cause I never said that.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    I've read the script...

    by mpfanatic

    all that was written in the article above is true...

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Brians Life

    by monorail77

    Agree, Agree and Agree x10, at least. Also, you a killing me with your observational posts about other TBers. Comedy gold. Keep at her, my man.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Does my TV recieve a different Smallville?!

    by modlight

    Because the one I always try and watch is an embarrassing soap opera with everyone wearing ridiculous costumes except the person who should be in one. The one that comes on my TV is like Charmed with Superheroes. Maybe everyone else is seeing some product that treats these characters with respect and a budget they deserve, but not the one my TV shows. My TV did used to get a great Justice League cartoon on Cartoon Network that is precisely how this film should be handled.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm for Superman

    by Jor-El23

    I could see that actually. He sort of looks like an older version of Routh with more of a square jaw.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Modlight and Monorail...why do the M's always get it?

    by Brians Life

    Thanks, Mono. The show I was working on is engulfed in California wildfires, so I gotta lotta free time on my hands and a 12 pack of sunkist orange soda....BOOSH!!!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    "like Charmed with Superheroes"

    by Brians Life

    That, my friend, was a little piece of brilliant.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    My guess

    by BizarroJerry

    Max Lord "created" the new Justice League in the 80s. I'm wondering if he kind of organizes the team, then we learn he's being controlled by the Omacs? Just guessing here.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    M's are magnanamously marvelous with

    by modlight

    many magnificent minds. Too bad my real name doesn't have a single M in it.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Save as: Web page, Complete

    by greenstyle92

    If this story has any validity at all, this info will be pulled within a couple of hours as per WB's request. That, my friends, is the most important litmus test of all.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Who's Maxwell Lord and Omacs?

    by Yeti

    Cripes, that sounds like an 80's hair band.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    WB execs are stupid!

    by UrbanSuperman

    And they treat us like we're stupid. I just hope Miller's really in charge of this project. Otherwise they actors will all be underwear models and there'll be a JLA beach party with the guys in speedos and Wonder Woman and her super hot Amazon sisters in thong bikinis... look at what's on Smallville. Supergirl's a hot centerfold who can't act, and in her first full episode she was in a bikini, in a beauty pagent. Execs wouldn't know a good superhero story if it bit them in their fat asses! If Miller's just the face-man on this project, we're going to get beutiful people, bad acting and CGi Wire effects. ( Which would make a great porno, but an awful superhero film)

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    As for the young cast,

    by greenstyle92

    It will probably be an eyesore, but wouldn't necessarily ruin the film.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:43 p.m. CST

    SPOILERS FROM THE COMIC

    by Brians Life

    IF they use the tales from the comics, than Maxwell Lord was sort of the government liason to the JLA. Recently (a year ago) he became bad and used hijacked Batman's Brother I sattelite to gain access of all batman's secret information on the league. There is a dope scene where Blue Beetle is checkin out Lord's computer and is shocked to find that he even has Superman's secret id. The OMACS are sort of a nano-virus. Via the sattelie they can infect ANYONE. A normal person becomes an unstoppable killing robot, so the league won't kill them 'cause they're just an innocent underneath. Hmmm...just got tired of typing. Fanboys, what else am I leaving out?!?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST

    As for OMACs,

    by greenstyle92

    I don't like this idea of "take the most recent big story from the comics and vomit it onscreen" approach. Remember how we had a near miss on Superman, and we almost got a movie in 1998 where it combined Death of Superman with Energy being Superman? Yeah.<br> <br> Besides, doesn't the Lord/OMACS story at least need "Identity Crisis" to make it make sense?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:47 p.m. CST

    As for Superman-Woderwoman-Batman fight.

    by greenstyle92

    That pretty much writes itself, doesn't it? Superman and Wonderwoman duke it out for a few minutes, until Superman eventually over powers wondy, then Batman sneaks up from behind and Clocks Superman in the head with a chunk of Kryptonite.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    As for continuity,

    by greenstyle92

    If they won't put it in the current DC movie Universe, maybe they could use the former one: The one that has Superman 1-IV but NOT returns and also has Batman 1-4 but not Begins.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Do we get to see Rover Dangerfield?

    by themasterofnonsense

    I love that little guy!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Which Supervillains will face Justice League...???

    by D o o d

    No one gives a shit!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Greenstyle....Supes/WonderWoman

    by Brians Life

    I'd like to see Batman being beaten to the brink of death after a good bout of Kryptonite induced beating on Superman only to have Wonder Woman save the day and eventually get the best of Superman.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 4:56 p.m. CST

    greenstyle

    by Burgundy82

    I kinda hope you're being sarcastic. Supermans 3 and 4 and Batmans 3 and 4 don't exist in ANY universe, as far as I'm concerned. Plus, all due respect, there's no way they're going to bother trying to connect this with those films. They'd have to replicate both Donner's Manhattatropolis and Burton's GOTHam (that, or Schumacher's Gaythem). Plus it would pretty much just confuse the hell out of everyone. Me included.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 5:13 p.m. CST

    They should just

    by tme2nsb

    Take what is left of the DCAU and convert it to live action big screen fun.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Good luck to Miller, but....

    by blindambition238

    As a total fucking dork, I don't see how this movie can not be a disappointment unless its balls to the walls fucking amazing. To paraphrase one of the reviews that popped up here about Alien vs Predator ages ago, I expect to walk out of a 'Justice League movie' not just pleased, but totally blown away. Given the circumstances its a bit of a tall order, and it'll still be a waste considering what a JL movie featuring fully developed characters from the Batman Begins or even Superman franchises could have provided.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Trik_Ster, re: Amanda Waller

    by monorail77

    "Last thing a comic book movie needs is a hatefull fat black chick" - but then Tyler Perry could be in JLA. As he draws so much box office, this would be very wise.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 5:28 p.m. CST

    monorail

    by Burgundy82

    Have you read the latest EW? That savvy motherfucker is building an empire and a half. He's shot a full season of a TV show he hasn't even sold yet. Hell, cast him as John Stewart — or does he lose his box office mojo when he takes off the wig and muumuu?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Will this movie suck?

    by AlwaysThere

    YES.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST

    HOW TO TELL THE ORIGINS

    by Dax_Bladerunner

    It's really pretty damn simple. Let each character get there own movie trailer showcasing them in the spotlight. It could be done a number of ways, but I'd like to see it done the same vein that Rami did the original teaser for SpiderMan. With the bank robbery and twin towers. You could easily have X hero have a mini-movie to introduce who they are by saving/stopping some disaster or badguy and then at the end of whatever rescue X hero does, the JLA pager (or whateverthehellitscalled) goes off. <p> OR just have an actual trailer "tell" that particular characters "origin". The way most trailers are cut nowadays you usually know what the whole movie is going to be about without actually having to see it anyway. <p> Also, the continuity issues/multiple movies/BatmanMovie/SupermanMovie/JLA Movie... really doesn't bother me because they've been doing it in the comics and the cartoons for years. It's really no different in this case either. I just want to enjoy a great movie and watch some of my favorite comic characters up on screen.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 5:59 p.m. CST

    serious question

    by samurai sark

    1) Would JL work as a purely eye-candy action flick with no real emotion other than action? Film at 11.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Burgandy82

    by monorail77

    Perry is definitely a powerhouse that the studios are stupidly ignoring. I'd be all for him being in JL, in all seriousness, not dressed as a woman, obviously, but maybe as GL?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:16 p.m. CST

    invisotext = white

    by Darth Valinorean

    not working guys ... last 2 questions- - the answers are in white, not inviso

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:18 p.m. CST

    IMDB and Justice League

    by ninpobugei

    According to IMDB.com, the movie is called JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA and the plot is as follows: "Green Lantern, Green Arrow, and others of the JLA must deal with the expulsion of Batman and the death of Superman at the hands of the monstrous Doomsday." Who knows where all this came from and if there's any truth to it, but it's interesting. Bear in mind that IMDB was correct about Venom being in the Spiderman 3 movie months prior to the official confirmation. As for George Miller directing...I don't see that he brings anything special to the mix. Sure, he did the Mad Max movies, but JLA is an entirely different breed of movie. If they don't give it the look and feel of "300" with some older actors, it will be utter garbage and quite possibly ruin other potential film franchises.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:28 p.m. CST

    It's OFFICIAL...

    by Brians Life

    ...because it's been declared by an AICN talkbacker (not me)..."if they don't give [the JLA movie] the look and feel of 300...it will be utter garbage...possibly ruin other film franchises." So...this movie cannot be a George Miller movie, or even a Michael Bay movie directed by George Miller...it HAS to be a mimic of a specific hyper stylized Zach Snyder movie in order to be anything but trash. Are you high and in college?!?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:31 p.m. CST

    IMDB also said...

    by drewlicious

    Aunt May was also Carnage. So they absorb their fair share of bullshit too.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:36 p.m. CST

    The problem with making a JL film

    by samurai sark

    There's a lot of passion about this project. This post alone went to the most responded to talkback in less than two hours. People care a lot about these characters and don't want to see them spoiled with the wrong writers/director/cast, etc. So far the news has done very little to inspire the grand majority of fans. Part of this disappointment comes from the fact that Batman has a great franchise which took years to achieve, and the Superman franchise took almost two decades to bring back. The fear is that a poor portrayl of these characters in a JL film could impact their solo series. I realize they are not the same thing, but they are the same character. Most people love Christian Bale as Batman, and don't really care to see anyone else in the role. Would you recast Hugh Jackman for the Wolverine Solo film? No. People like seeing Bale, another actor would draw comparison (probably negative). There are 6-7 main Justice League members. Not to mention the dozens of lesser-known heroes. People have their favorites, and would love to see them on film. But the danger is overcrowding. How do you give each a fair share of attention? X-Men gave a good attempt, but the film still rested on Wolverines shoulders. Who do you choose to be the main character of the JL film? The leader? The Amazon? The black sheep? The cop? The rookie? The alien? Each has potential, but how do you choose? Most people like Wolverine over Cyclops, but how do you choose between Batman and Superman? Wonder Woman or GL? Flash or Manhunter? The idea of a Justice League film seems premature. Batman has 2 movies to go, and a Superman Sequel finally seems to be interesting again. A JL film at this point seems hasty, when it should be legendary.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Batman

    by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran

    can kick Superman's ass. That rules.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Brian's Life...

    by ninpobugei

    Not sure why you had to be so snide in your commentary...? Am I in college...uh, no, I graduated from college more than 14 years ago...what about you? As for the JLA movie, my point is that it needs to have a different look to it to pull off the costumes (one of Bryan Singer's biggest concerns when he first did X-Men). It just isn't going to work as a typical live-action film. The BEST vision of this film would be an Alex Ross-like film (and this is not just my opinion)...and to do this would require a more artistic approach. And the closest thing to such an approach that we've seen to date, IMO, has been the movie "300". Trying to pull off the costumes and the thematic material in a "typical" movie would border on camp. And if they're not going to give the material its due by hiring actors that look the part, then it REALLY is going to be a silly, campy, WB-ish mess. If you think differently, then be specific rather than calling names.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:43 p.m. CST

    who the hell...

    by hank quinlan

    ...are these writers and how did they get a project this big? I read on imdb, they are related to Dermot Mulroney but surely that can't be enough. Anyone else know anything? Not pumped about this movie. I have tried numerous inside sources to get this script and have heard it's next to impossible to get.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Samurai Sark has a good point...

    by ninpobugei

    ...and not to beat a horse, but I just think that a different "look" to the movie would help separate it from the other franchises (i.e. the current Superman and Batman movies). If JLA had a more artist, sureal look (yes, like "300"), then it would go a long way toward preventing the inevitable comparisons to the other movies. Imagine what Superman and Batman would look like in a 300-ish world...they wouldn't bare any resemblance to the other movies. Thus, the three different franchises could exist on their own. Even if they made movies later of Wonder Woman, Flash, GL, et al, those movies could also survive on their own separate from the JLA movie(s). But if JLA is done in a typical live-action fashion, the comparisons between movies will be HUGE and rife with conflict, especially with the mainstream movie-going public not privy to these types of chatroom discussions.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:49 p.m. CST

    I AGREE WITH GANYMEDE!!!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    It should have been CGI ala the cutscenes in the video games. Then you wouldn't have the continuity issues with the other movies and it could stand on its own. Hollywood fucked up yet AGAIN, why don't you listen to Talkbackers you dumbasses.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Whaaaatever.

    by Brians Life

    I love Christian Bale as Batman. He's the best to portray the role yet, but does that mean I don't want to see another take on the character if possible? No. Of course I do. I don't want to censor Kevin Conroy's animated Batman because I like Christian Bale, and only he can be Batman! That's senseless. Where some see this movie as hasty and TOO SOON (uhg) I see it as bold. What better time for a JLA movie?! I don't think any one should speak for "the grand majority of fans". Hell, I don't even like the grand majority of fans. Of course this movie has all the dangers of any movie with this many characters, that's a duh statement. It's avoiding those pitfalls we hope for, and thus far I'm optimistic with what I've heard.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:51 p.m. CST

    THE VILLAIN SHOULD BE GALACTUS

    by BringingSexyBack

    and not as a cloud.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Making room for all the characters...

    by ninpobugei

    It's kind of funny that there has been so much difficulty in the live-action movies with managing multiple characters when this has been done successfully in the cartoons! Why have the writers in the cartoons done such a great job while the live-action people have largely failed miserably? Case in point: the Justice League cartoon story arc "Starcrossed". That was an excellent story and gave a great deal of time to each and every character in the JL lineup. So why can't they/won't they manage this in the live-action movies? Going back to the comics, look at the tremendous storylines of KINGDOM COME or IDENTITY CRISES. Rather than imperfectly trying to reinvent the wheel, the producers and the director should look at this material and proceed from there.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:56 p.m. CST

    bunch of doomsayers,JLA by Mller is the best news in.....

    by pipergates

    this moment

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Dude, I didn't call you names...

    by Brians Life

    I asked if you were "high and in college". As for being snide, that's me...life sucks, wear a helmet. On the other side of things, I don't disagree with your second post. I do think this movie needs some sort of stylization, but your first post was rather blunt. I mean you literally did say the movie needs to look like 300, or it will suck. Upon clarification, I apologize for assuming you were a 14 year old. Peace?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Hold on...hold on...

    by Brians Life

    When you guys say "typical live action fashion"...what the hell are you talking about?! I mean, that's SUCH a broad term.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Uh, that's IDENTITY CRISIS...sorry!

    by ninpobugei

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Connected with Begins

    by mrjoker

    Since it is featuring the daughter of "Batman Begins" Ras al Ghul. Does that mean that this is now a part of that movies continuity? Warner Brothers is going to have two simultaneously running franchises featuring Batman played by a completely different actor? Ditto with Superman? Why are they doing this? Wouldn't it be wiser just to make a "Flash" movie. A "Wonder Woman" movie. etc. I'll be pretty surprised if this movie is ever actually released. It doesn't make any sense at all.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:03 p.m. CST

    cast

    by blankblank

    I'm willing to overlook the discontinuity with the Nolan and Singer franchises... but only if they cast legit actors for the parts, like so: Superman: Gerard Butler (i know he's not american, but if he got the accent right he'd be a BAD ASS superman) Batman: Joaquin Phoenix (think about it) Wonder Woman: Evangiline Lilly from Lost (make her look tall though) Green Lantern: I'm fine with Common, but Jamie Foxx would kick ass Wally West Flash: Ryan Renolds is probably too old, but i hope they dont go the adam brody/justin long route Martian Manhunter: just get the dude who does the voice on the JLA cartoon. NO LAWERNCE FISHBURNE. Aquaman: Matthew McConaughy (think of him from Reign of Fire, sans the southern accent)

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:04 p.m. CST

    live action vs. an artistic approach

    by ninpobugei

    I can only speak for myself, but when I say "typical live-action" I mean in the vein of how the most recent superhero movies have been filmed...as a realistic movie in both look and film quality. BATMAN BEGINS is obviously rooted in a very life-like, realistic world. SUPERMAN RETURNS was also rooted in the "real world" while still managing to be largely fantasy. X-MEN were also filmed in such a way as to make them believable in our world. As a comparison, the original Tim Burton BATMAN was rooted in a sureal world completely fantastic in look and feel and separate from OUR world, if that makes sense. Whereas BATMAN BEGINS, SUPERMAN RETURNS, X-MEN, and SPIDERMAN were filmed in such a way as to make them believable in our world, a movie like the original BATMAN or 300 are definitely intended to be comic-book realms aside from our own. That's the long version of what I think of when I mean "typical live action" film quality vs. a more comic-book "look". IMO, the JLA movie demands a more artistic approach. I just can't picture it working in the way that the X-Men worked...that is, trying to make them believable in their flashy costumes in our world.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Seriously, guys.

    by phool2056

    Why is everyone so keen on making this movie themselves? I mean, yeah, my favorite JL member is Green Arrow and my favorite Green Lantern is Kyle Rayner and my favorite villain is Darkseid, and I won't get to see any of that here, but so what? It's a live-action Justice League movie. Even the worst superhero movies have a couple of moments where you get to see characters you love doing iconic things, and that is always satisfying. Daredevil, for example. Absolute shit, but you still get to see the death of Elektra more than capably realized on the screen. I advocate sitting back, not worrying, and being willing to forgive. The mere fact that this movie is being made is an incredible advancement for nerds everywhere.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Captain jack would be great as Supes...

    by superhero

    One problem, the actor is gay and we all know how well that went with the Flash TV show, right? America couldn't handle a gay actor playing Superman...you know it's true.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:22 p.m. CST

    I don't understand why Bale isn't doing this...

    by DanielKurland

    He did an interview where he said he loves playing Batman and would play him for the rest of his life if he could. He even had some quote where he talks about how he'd still be playing him at conventions, when he's an old man, if he had the choice. Yet, he's not doing this.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    phool2056 - You are most wise.

    by Yeti

    Hard core members of the Taliban aren't as fanatical as some of the talkbackers here. Yikes.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Bale's aversion to this movie

    by tk 421

    I always thought his aversion to doing this movie had more to do with his desire to keep his Batman character in Nolan's Batman universe and less to do with any dislike of the Batman character itself.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:41 p.m. CST

    regarding Bale...

    by ninpobugei

    Does anyone know if he was even asked to do the movie? If not, then that would explain it. It sounded to me as if Miller wanted all knew faces from the outset, meaning that Routh and Bale were never intended to be in this movie.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:42 p.m. CST

    I hate to say it..but Michael Bay should have made this!

    by Mike_D

    Seriously.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Looks like Wonder Woman has been cast

    by Zeke25:17

    ...and it's someone named Teresa Palmer, who stands about 5'5" and has blonde hair. How that reminded Miller of Lynda Carter, I can't begin to fathom. (http://tinyurl.com/2kn4j5) I wouldn't mind her lassoing me or anything; but she looks more like Gwen Stacy than an amazon...

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:50 p.m. CST

    With The Shitty Cast They're Assembling Does it Matter?

    by JaySmack

    We're seeing how crappy the actors are they're putting together. Actors who are too young, and not experienced. People with no charisma or skill. And the quality of the script? Hell, if they've gotten the casting so disastrously wrong how the fuck are they going to get the script right? And will anyone care about a good story when all they see are actors who simpyl aren't right for the parts?

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 7:56 p.m. CST

    so their gonna butcher the heroes and the villains

    by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell

    GAY

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Why kill Flash when killing Superman would be more effective?

    by Julius Dithers

    Batman or Superman should die in this movie. Why? Because we have Nolan, Singer and Smallville. We'd care more about Superman dying than the Flash, anyway. Good luck, Miller. Hope you have final cut.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 8:24 p.m. CST

    WW?

    by huggerorange

    kristen dunst as wonder woman?? ..she has the body of a 10 year old boy..tell me theyre kidding please..if not then fuck this movie.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 8:26 p.m. CST

    What's with this shitty infighting?

    by Soops

    I hate this postmodern "Batman vs Superman" shit. Teh Gay is ww vs soops vs bats.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST

    JLA = SNL

    by whoofman

    Without the actors who play Batman and Superman in their current incarnations on film, this new film will look like a silly Saturday Night Live skit.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Herc...

    by metaluna

    Have faith in George Miller? Um... why? What slice of genius has that guy delivered ever? He's a middling safe pair of hands, nothing more or less. This movie will be on a par with that Nick Fury TV movie that ol' hamburglar Hasselhoff did that pops up on late night every few years. Non geek jerking off audience members will ask 'why are Batman and Wonder Woman fighting Superman?' Makes no sense already. Kate Winslett as Wonder Woman? Get real. Faster this pile of poop goes into turnaround the better.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 9:22 p.m. CST

    And how I roared with laughter when I read this...

    by metaluna

    'The mere fact that this movie is being made is an incredible advancement for nerds everywhere.' Phool... what are you smoking? Were you being serious when those words got joined together in your brain to type them??? Put the comic down, get your coat, go outside, there's a whole wonderful world out there to explore. The world does not need another frikking superhero movie. Period. Can we have a break from it, please? Look guys (its guys, ITS ALWAYS GUYS) just buy some toy superhero dolls and make your own films up if you feel you have a need to watch this stupid shit. The rest of the world is tired of it. Tired of seeing it in every damn cinema every summer and winter. Please just stop. Please.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 9:34 p.m. CST

    This movie is such a waste

    by amrisharmpit

    For all of the reasons that have been mentioned. Why not have separate franchises for each character first, why not have Supes/Bats in their own movie together, why not have Bale and Routh, etc. The way this project is being put together suggests a money grab to protect WB in the event of a strike.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Meanwhile in the talkback of doom...

    by Pipple

    this movie is still going to bomb

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 9:55 p.m. CST

    John Stewart is the GL here????

    by Futureman2681

    How can you have a JL movie without Hal Motherfrackin' Jordan as the Green Lantern? Hal is the iconic image that most people think of when they think of GL (except for those who only know of the character through the cartoon). If this is all true, I think they are going way to obscure. I was so disappointed to hear they were going with the Brother Eye storyline. I didn't like it at all. Plus it is a story for people who already know these characters. And something tells me that we wont get to see WW snap Maxwell Lord's neck on the big screen. They are taking a golden opportunity with a great director and getting it wrong on almost every level.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 10:12 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with Gorilla Grodd...

    by Lord Haw Haw

    ...and he said it best: "No GG means no BO for JL!" Kneel before Grodd!!!

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 10:25 p.m. CST

    No Wonder Twins = flaming nipples on Megatron

    by Soops

    I need to detox after this thread.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST

    I think some of you are way off.

    by Rakafraker

    I'd like to believe that George Miller can handle an ensemble cast of malleable actors. I'm a nut for sci-fi and fantasy genres, but I have had strong feelings for all of GM's past work (I was seriously amazed after IMDb-ing GM after watching Happy Feet- the concept alone was pretty daring - See Wyrm's review). If GM is being given big $$$ to do this (especially without big-name draws), then I'm quite sure the bean-counters have calculated the risks and think that its worth-while. <p>Personally, I think it's incredible timing for GM to pull this off now. The impending strike will force studios to try and make some bucks to counter the losses they'll likely face as a result. I have faith that if extra primping is needed, WB would be willing to pour more $$$ into it so they can have their big event before the draught. <p>Accomplished director + HUGE budget + heavy script + good writers + possibility of a series + perfect timing = Enough reason for me to get excited.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with Comet the superhorse

    by themasterofnonsense

    He says for Sinestro to suck his big ol' horse dick

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 11:32 p.m. CST

    This Could Be Great Or Mediocre With George Miller

    by ChiTownsBest

    I respect George Miller as a director since he never has really made an awful film. The only problem is that he has mainly made average to slightly above-average films since Road Warrior. I doubt that this movie will be terrible with him directing but I have a feeling it won't exactly be in the same league as Spiderman 2, X2,or Batman Begins. I do have faith that he will take it seriously and we won't end up with another Fantastic Four. My main problem with JL is that I would rather see Batman, Superman,and Wonder Woman in their own movies. X-men is made up of heroes who work better in a team while JL is made of heroes that you wonder what's the point of them teaming up at all. Exactly why does Wonder Woman or Superman need teammates? This is why I never liked the concept of JL. It always seemed like a goofy idea from the start.

  • Oct. 26, 2007, 11:54 p.m. CST

    So wait,,,

    by tehgreekhammer

    isnt the title of this article about what Super Villains might appear in this travesty of a movie? <p> well um where the villains at yo?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 12:15 a.m. CST

    THIS MOVIE IS NOT HAPPENING!

    by LordEnigma

    Warners would have to be on crack to have a movie with a bunch of short fucking Australians in it directed by a fuckwit director who thinks this is a good idea. Seriously... get the fuck out of here with this movie.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 12:32 a.m. CST

    I demand a JSA film with a superhot boobalicious PowerGirl

    by Soops

    Accept no Substitutes. Dr. Fate and Hawkman must be on the screen!

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 12:37 a.m. CST

    I thought they wanted to distance this from Batman Begins

    by Freakemovie

    So why do they have a villain who's related to Ra's Al Ghul? The whole thing still seems like a clusterfuck that will confuse the shit out of audiences.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 12:58 a.m. CST

    This movie will be gold...

    by QuietMan297

    ...as long as the fishnet twins (Zatana and Black Canary) are prominently featured. And WHY has no one mentioned Booster Gold?!?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 12:59 a.m. CST

    This movie will be gold...

    by QuietMan297

    ...as long as the fishnet twins (Zatana and Black Canary) are prominently featured. And WHY has no one mentioned Booster Gold?!?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 1:06 a.m. CST

    this sounds awesome to me.

    by mayorofsimpleton

    Everyone who thinks this shouldn't be made and that it will somehow interfere with Routh and Bale's stuff is very narrow minded. First of all, Superman Returns is SHIT. Batman Begins is pretty good, if a bit boring in parts. Why all the hate on something that for once, sounds like a NEW TAKE on these characters film wise?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Just make "CSI: Metropolis" and be done with it

    by Soops

    because we are witnessing the end of the universe.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Heroes are only as good as their villains...

    by Negative Man

    <p>...and this movie has suck-ass villains. Max Lord? Talia? Omac's? Really? That's the best they could muster? No Brainiac? No Eclipso? Not even a Dr. Light?</p><p>Not one damn super-villain?!!</P><p>Superman is 'taken over' and is the major threat at the end of the movie? LAME! This will please the Transformer crowd, I guess. "Lookit that! Oooo, did ya see that thing go boom! What was the movie about? I don't care, I just went for the special effects! I was just happy paying $10 to hear Peter Cullen's voice!"</p><p>I said it once if I said it several times...bring on the JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA!!! Pit them up against Vandal Savage and/or the Fourth Reich! "Nazis. I hate these guys."</P>

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:58 a.m. CST

    yawn...

    by kname2

    this is sounding like Spider-Man 3 already...

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 3:16 a.m. CST

    An Open Letter to the Powers That Be

    by thecomedian

    "MY OPEN LETTER TO THE POWERS THAT BE" or "Step back kids, I've been doing this fantasy casting and scripting in talkback bullshit for years." by The Comedian There are a lot of pros and cons to what’s going on with JLA and the gamble Warner Bros is taking with their superhero franchises. First off, I don’t think the studio is as dumb as some of you kids think they are. I believe we WILL see Brandon Routh as Superman and Christian Bale as Batman in this film. You can bank on it. That’s probably why they’re going so cheap with the rest of the cast. Having the real Superman and Batman on film together will mean the difference in this picture making 50-175 million or being the “Lord of the Rings” of Superhero films, an Event film, potentially the biggest Superhero film ever made. The press on this alone would be huge. Trust me they’re not stupid enough to write off that kind of opportunity and I’m sure they are still fighting tooth and nail behind the scenes to make this a reality. Christian Bale initially not wanting to do this movie has a little bit to do with integrity but really it has A LOT to do with money. And not in a “he’s just some spoiled, greedy asshole” way either. But I’ll get to that later. As many have pointed out it may seem that the nolanverse, Singer’s dull as dirt ersatz Donnerverse and the Justice League couldn’t possibly meld together into a cohesive whole. That’s what it may seem like but there is an easy as shit solution and I’m sure whoever is doctoring up the script right now has hopefully figured this out. A lot of people here have brought up the point that doing a Justice League movie where the league is already formed is incredible stupid. They’re right. You may have some pinheads at the studio thinking of this picture more as a live action version of the JLU cartoon and thus most audiences will just look at it that way. They’re wrong. Unless they just want a handful of people who bought DVDs of the cartoon to show up at the theater. So here’s my “so simple a soulless Harvard MBA who just wants to be the next Barry Diller can follow it” solution. Okay so, 1st let’s deal with the Superman/Batman thing. In the case of Superman, Brandon Routh AND Bryan Singer have everything to gain by him playing Superman in JLA. Face it, Superman Returns was a failure. Not because Singer was trying to pick up from a 30 year old franchise. He obviously didn’t even GET the Donner movies because they actually are imaginative, inventive and FUN. I don’t think Bryan Singer can even spell “Verisimilitude”. He didn’t even deliver on the movie he was supposedly telling us he was making. We never actually saw “a world that had moved on and didn’t need Superman anymore”. I could pick apart the flaws of Superman Returns but it’s all been said already. The fact of the matter is he got beaten badly by fuckin’ Pirates, a sequel that wasn’t even half as entertaining as it’s predecessor. I don’t even think Disney thought Pirates would make the money it did. And it did because SUPERMAN RETURNS FAILED. So people had to take their kids to see something on a rainy summer afternoon. The cold hard truth is that THE ONLY REASON WE’RE EVEN SEEING A JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE IS BECAUSE SUPERMAN RETURNS WAS SUCH A LETDOWN AND WB IS HUNGRY FOR A BLOCKBUSTER SUPERHERO FRANCHISE. Search you feelings, Singerologists. You know this to be true. That said, I think Brandon Routh did okay with what he was given. I think the right director can get a Superman out of him that’s uniquely his and not just some lame *literally* pale impersonation of a beloved dead icon. HE DESERVES THE CHANCE. If this movie is a success it will easily translate to good will for the Superman franchise. I don’t think Bryan Singer really cares anyway. This past decade of mediocre superhero work has just been a career steppingstone for him anyhow. He obviously doesn’t give a crap and just knows how to say the right things at the right times and push geek and studio exec buttons alike. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a talented guy but I think he should get back to doing brainy thrillers. That’s what he obviously likes to do and is good at. Same way Burton is good at weird, quirky stuff. And he didn’t try to make a whole career out of doing superhero movies he didn’t care about for fat paychecks. Once he got tired of Batman he split. Singer should take a page out of his book. The studio’s obviously trying to give him the brush off as is by firing his writers. But enough bashing of Superman Returns. Those of you who liked it are entitled to your tastes. The point is that Routh deserves another shot and this may be his last. If this Justice League movie is a big-tittied, fire-breathing monster hit and he’s not in it as Superman there’s no way WB is going to waste money continuing the Superman franchise with him. They’ll just reboot with the JL Supes if they EVEN WANT to do anymore “solo” Superman movies. Now onto Bale, the nolanverse and the real reason they’re supposedly giving so much static. They have every right to. At face value they’re in an opposite situation as Routh and Singer. They have the successful franchise, both critically and financially. They didn’t quite do the blockbuster numbers that the 1st two Spider-Man movies did but they DID successfully relaunched a dead franchise (inside of 8 years even) and they did it the right way by genuinely respecting the source material, casting the most A-list cast imaginable and adding just enough of their own madness to make it new. Of course, my one criticism is the shitty shakycam fights but overall they turned out a great film. And now here they are wrapping up the sequel, what will supposedly be the studio’s big-tittied monster superhero film next summer. And that’s the reason for the static but not in the immediate way you would suspect. You see, if Dark Knight is a big hit then Bale can ask for waaaay more money to play Batman whether it be in a third film, Justice League, The Outsiders or fuckin’ Batman meets Scooby Doo. Right now by trying to shoe horn him into a Justice League movie he doesn’t have that leverage (at least on paper). They’d basically be asking him to put the suit back on this spring when he just took it off and he’ll probably have to be looping growly Batman dialogue in some voiceover booth for DK at the same time. Plus if he signs on for JL that means he may have to play Batman in the JL sequels as well as his own movies. Holy Bat-typecasting Burnout (yeah, I know it was corny but I had to try). This would be all worth it if they had a script that logically extended his character from the Nolan movies into a larger DC Universe. So yeah, some stupid script based off of a cheapo equally vapid comic crossover event from last summer wouldn’t be all that appealing. So here’s the simple solution…are you ready WB execs…I’m sure you’ve figured this out already…PAY HIM RIGHT & CHANGE THE SCRIPT. MAKE A JL MOVIE THAT’S A SEMI-SEQUEL TO BB & SR AND OPENS UP THE DOOR TO THE WHOLE DC UNIVERSE. “B-B-B-BUT COMEDIAN, THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!”, you say. Hardly, actually there’s a very logical way of pulling all of this off and EVEN keeping Max Lord, Talia and the Omacs involved. The film I’m proposing would probably be about 3-3/12 hours long but people lined up in droves and sat in the theater for over nine hours respective to watch a bunch of midgets throw a ring into a volcano. They’ll sit thru a 3-3 ½ hour JLA movie if it’s an “event”. Routh and Bale as Superman and Batman will cement that. So here’s my treatment. You see, tying the ersatz Donnerverse and the Nolanverse is actually a piece of cake. It all comes down to the timeline. Superman left earth for 5 years right? Wasn’t that the same time Bruce Wayne was off stealing shit and doing all his Bat-training with Ra’s? So having them meet for the 1st time on a rooftop in Gotham at the beginning of a JLA movie would make sense. Having a superman-less world in BB makes sense because #1 he was off in space and #2 Gotham is it’s own city with it’s own problems just like in the comics. Superman can’t be everywhere, he takes care of the world but he wouldn’t have time to deal with Carmine Falcone when he’s got to deal with Metropolis. And why would a pre-bats Bruce Wayne give a half a crap about some Alien celebrity the world is ouing and ahhhing over. He’d be so wracked with anger and guilt about what happened to his parents that he’d be completely oblivious. He was obviously in his own world outside of normal rational thinking anyway when he was gonna kill Joe Chill at the courthouse. He was a “lost man without a true purpose”. He’d give as little a shit about Superman as he would Paris Hilton. Lois Lane even mentions Gotham in SR so the groundwork has already been laid. So starting a Justice League movie with the classic 1st meeting we’ve seen time and again in comics with Superman chastising but ultimately befriending this vigilante on a rooftop would work. Everything I just said about the timeline could even be worked into the dialogue. Have Superman talk about how he realizes there are problems he alone can’t deal with. Have him talk about how there are others out there like them (yeah, I know it's all Mohinder but it’ll work). He can talk of reports of a red flash in Central City, giant green shapes in coastal city, etc. Have Batman be apprehensive but considering it all. Then we cut to Bruce Wayne in his daily business life. Here we’re introduced to Max Lord (Sam Neill) an older colleague of Wayne’s who he may even see as a friend/father figure seemingly the polarized opposite of Rutger Hauer’s character in BB. Max is charismatic, cunning, all those things Sam Neill is at his best as opposed to some Bryne Era-Luthor surrogate. Bruce also meets an exotically beautiful independently wealthy young woman named Talia thru Max. Max has seemingly brought Bruce and Talia together to invest in some big software project or something. At the end of the 1st act some earth-shattering event happens that Superman himself can’t handle (the omacs attack cities around the world) the rest of the league comes out of the woodwork meeting together for the 1st time. Superman is not surprised to see the Flash and Green Lantern both of whom he’s contacted since his initial meeting with Batman. Batman isn’t all that surprised by them either. What does throw them for a curve (or two) is the appearance of a certain impossibly beautiful, insanely powerful Amazon Princess. She explains that her name is Diana and she comes from an island shielded from all surveillance both man made or otherwise. There is an immediate bond between the three of them. She’s like the loving sister these two lone orphan boys never had albeit a smoking hot one. With the camera bulbs flashing on the three of them, GL and the Flash The Justice League is born. Batman is of course reluctant to join with them(even shirking away as the cameras flash) and says his role will be minimal because he has a city of his own to deal with. A mysterious crew cut police detective in a brown trenchcoat is also on the scene. The second act of the film shows Superman leading the league in action fighting more omacs who keep coming back and doing other stuff like setting up headquarters. Aquaman is introduced at some point and joins up. At first the League believe they’re dealing with Alien invaders as the Omacs all have the bizarre blue one eyed finhead appearance from the comics. The mysterious crew cut detective also seems to be everywhere the league is. We even see him reading a newspaper article about the Justice League fighting aliens with a knowing look on his face. Meanwhile Bruce is becoming slightly suspicious of Max and Talia while at the same time as Batman he is cautiously suspicious of his new friends in the justice league. So he starts keeping tabs on them though this isn’t of course drawn out in great detail but only hinted at. Of all the league members The Flash seems to be the most genuine even to the cynical Batman. He’s even the 1st to reveal his secret identity in a show of trust at the hall of justice. He explains the freak accident that caused his powers. He explains that his late HS/Early college age nephew Wally was also involved in the accident and has powers like him but wants to live a normal life. He respects that. The third act begins with Batman doing his detective thing and discovering the horrible truth about the omacs. They’re actually humans being turned into robot killing machines in a fake alien invasion perpetrated by Max who is of course looking out for human interest by exterminating the superhumans. In a great scene Max confronts Bruce and asks him to join his cause. He knows that Bruce is Batman. He’s know all along and has been using him. The reason he knows is because Talia knows and the reason she know is because she wants revenge on him for killing her father RA’S AL GHUL. So in the same scene Bruce Wayne’s two human friends turn against him. He refuses to join Max so Max pushes a button and everyone in the restaurant at the Princeton club or whatever turn into Omacs and Batman has to fight his way through a sea of superhuman robot killing machines. Lucky for him Superman and WW show up. The rest of the league follows. But now Max has the jump on them because he hacked into Batman’s files and knows all their weaknesses. Now the league is actually on the defensive and with the realization that there are people under the omacs they have to show restraint. They also face an even bigger problem when Max uses some sort of mind-bending deal on Superman. Not a direct telepathic attach (movie max is strictly human) but some sort of sonic devices that not only disorients superman but causes him to hallucinate. In a smirking speech Max reveals that he could track down any Kryptonite so he cooked this doo hicky up. Superman in a really bad trip becomes a danger to himself and others, unfocussed and randomly causing damage. Batman and Wonder Woman team up trying to stop him but he’s overpowering them. Barry’s nephew sees the battle on TV he races to the scene. Just when Max thinks he has won the mysterious police detective show up he is of course J’onn J’onzz, the Martian Manhunter. Batman doesn’t have a file on him. He telepathically fixes Superman and uses his vast array of powers to help the league fight the omacs. With J’onn and Wally’s help the league defeat the omacs but not without a cost. Barry gives his life heroically. In the final scene of the film the heroes gather in the hall of Justice. Wally West will obviously be the new flash though he’s not costumed. In a scene reminiscent of the scene where Barry unmasks J’onn tells them his true name and shows them his true form. They all reveal their identities to each other as a show of trust, Superman even reluctantly puts his glasses on. The last of course to take of his mask is Batman. “My name is Bruce.” Fin.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 3:22 a.m. CST

    and sorry about not putting breaks...

    by thecomedian

    it wouldn't let me for some reason. But read the rant. It's worth it.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 3:26 a.m. CST

    You SHOULD be sorry...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    My left eyeball just burst! >;(

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 3:33 a.m. CST

    You can also place <p> for a paragrah break.

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Just do something...

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Whoops! :)

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Try < p > without the spaces around the "p."

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 3:56 a.m. CST

    Thanks Ghost...

    by thecomedian

    There are a lot of pros and cons to what’s going on with JLA and the gamble Warner Bros is taking with their superhero franchises. First off, I don’t think the studio is as dumb as some of you kids think they are. I believe we WILL see Brandon Routh as Superman and Christian Bale as Batman in this film. You can bank on it. That’s probably why they’re going so cheap with the rest of the cast. Having the real Superman and Batman on film together will mean the difference in this picture making 50-175 million or being the “Lord of the Rings” of Superhero films, an Event film, potentially the biggest Superhero film ever made. The press on this alone would be huge. Trust me they’re not stupid enough to write off that kind of opportunity and I’m sure they are still fighting tooth and nail behind the scenes to make this a reality. Christian Bale initially not wanting to do this movie has a little bit to do with integrity but really it has A LOT to do with money. And not in a “he’s just some spoiled, greedy asshole” way either. But I’ll get to that later. As many have pointed out it may seem that the nolanverse, Singer’s dull as dirt ersatz Donnerverse and the Justice League couldn’t possibly meld together into a cohesive whole. That’s what it may seem like but there is an easy as shit solution and I’m sure whoever is doctoring up the script right now has hopefully figured this out. A lot of people here have brought up the point that doing a Justice League movie where the league is already formed is incredible stupid. They’re right. You may have some pinheads at the studio thinking of this picture more as a live action version of the JLU cartoon and thus most audiences will just look at it that way. They’re wrong. Unless they just want a handful of people who bought DVDs of the cartoon to show up at the theater. So here’s my “so simple a soulless Harvard MBA who just wants to be the next Barry Diller can follow it” solution. <br> <br> Okay so, 1st let’s deal with the Superman/Batman thing. <br> <br> In the case of Superman, Brandon Routh AND Bryan Singer have everything to gain by him playing Superman in JLA. Face it, Superman Returns was a failure. Not because Singer was trying to pick up from a 30 year old franchise. He obviously didn’t even GET the Donner movies because they actually are imaginative, inventive and FUN. I don’t think Bryan Singer can even spell “Verisimilitude”. He didn’t even deliver on the movie he was supposedly telling us he was making. We never actually saw “a world that had moved on and didn’t need Superman anymore”. I could pick apart the flaws of Superman Returns but it’s all been said already. The fact of the matter is he got beaten badly by fuckin’ Pirates, a sequel that wasn’t even half as entertaining as it’s predecessor. I don’t even think Disney thought Pirates would make the money it did. And it did because SUPERMAN RETURNS FAILED. So people had to take their kids to see something on a rainy summer afternoon. The cold hard truth is that THE ONLY REASON WE’RE EVEN SEEING A JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE IS BECAUSE SUPERMAN RETURNS WAS SUCH A LETDOWN AND WB IS HUNGRY FOR A BLOCKBUSTER SUPERHERO FRANCHISE. Search you feelings, Singerologists. You know this to be true. That said, I think Brandon Routh did okay with what he was given. I think the right director can get a Superman out of him that’s uniquely his and not just some lame *literally* pale impersonation of a beloved dead icon. HE DESERVES THE CHANCE. If this movie is a success it will easily translate to good will for the Superman franchise. I don’t think Bryan Singer really cares anyway. This past decade of mediocre superhero work has just been a career steppingstone for him anyhow. He obviously doesn’t give a crap and just knows how to say the right things at the right times and push geek and studio exec buttons alike. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a talented guy but I think he should get back to doing brainy thrillers. That’s what he obviously likes to do and is good at. Same way Burton is good at weird, quirky stuff. And he didn’t try to make a whole career out of doing superhero movies he didn’t care about for fat paychecks. Once he got tired of Batman he split. Singer should take a page out of his book. The studio’s obviously trying to give him the brush off as is by firing his writers. But enough bashing of Superman Returns. Those of you who liked it are entitled to your tastes. The point is that Routh deserves another shot and this may be his last. If this Justice League movie is a big-tittied, fire-breathing monster hit and he’s not in it as Superman there’s no way WB is going to waste money continuing the Superman franchise with him. They’ll just reboot with the JL Supes if they EVEN WANT to do anymore “solo” Superman movies. <br> <br> Now onto Bale, the nolanverse and the real reason they’re supposedly giving so much static. They have every right to. At face value they’re in an opposite situation as Routh and Singer. They have the successful franchise, both critically and financially. They didn’t quite do the blockbuster numbers that the 1st two Spider-Man movies did but they DID successfully relaunched a dead franchise (inside of 8 years even) and they did it the right way by genuinely respecting the source material, casting the most A-list cast imaginable and adding just enough of their own madness to make it new. Of course, my one criticism is the shitty shakycam fights but overall they turned out a great film. And now here they are wrapping up the sequel, what will supposedly be the studio’s big-tittied monster superhero film next summer. And that’s the reason for the static but not in the immediate way you would suspect. You see, if Dark Knight is a big hit then Bale can ask for waaaay more money to play Batman whether it be in a third film, Justice League, The Outsiders or fuckin’ Batman meets Scooby Doo. Right now by trying to shoe horn him into a Justice League movie he doesn’t have that leverage (at least on paper). They’d basically be asking him to put the suit back on this spring when he just took it off and he’ll probably have to be looping growly Batman dialogue in some voiceover booth for DK at the same time. Plus if he signs on for JL that means he may have to play Batman in the JL sequels as well as his own movies. Holy Bat-typecasting Burnout (yeah, I know it was corny but I had to try). This would be all worth it if they had a script that logically extended his character from the Nolan movies into a larger DC Universe. So yeah, some stupid script based off of a cheapo equally vapid comic crossover event from last summer wouldn’t be all that appealing. So here’s the simple solution…are you ready WB execs…I’m sure you’ve figured this out already…PAY HIM RIGHT & CHANGE THE SCRIPT. MAKE A JL MOVIE THAT’S A SEMI-SEQUEL TO BB & SR AND OPENS UP THE DOOR TO THE WHOLE DC UNIVERSE. <br> <br> “B-B-B-BUT COMEDIAN, THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!”, you say. Hardly, actually there’s a very logical way of pulling all of this off and EVEN keeping Max Lord, Talia and the Omacs involved. The film I’m proposing would probably be about 3-3/12 hours long but people lined up in droves and sat in the theater for over nine hours respective to watch a bunch of midgets throw a ring into a volcano. They’ll sit thru a 3-3 ½ hour JLA movie if it’s an “event”. Routh and Bale as Superman and Batman will cement that. So here’s my treatment. <br> <br> You see, tying the ersatz Donnerverse and the Nolanverse is actually a piece of cake. It all comes down to the timeline. Superman left earth for 5 years right? Wasn’t that the same time Bruce Wayne was off stealing shit and doing all his Bat-training with Ra’s? So having them meet for the 1st time on a rooftop in Gotham at the beginning of a JLA movie would make sense. Having a superman-less world in BB makes sense because #1 he was off in space and #2 Gotham is it’s own city with it’s own problems just like in the comics. Superman can’t be everywhere, he takes care of the world but he wouldn’t have time to deal with Carmine Falcone when he’s got to deal with Metropolis. And why would a pre-bats Bruce Wayne give a half a crap about some Alien celebrity the world is ouing and ahhhing over. He’d be so wracked with anger and guilt about what happened to his parents that he’d be completely oblivious. He was obviously in his own world outside of normal rational thinking anyway when he was gonna kill Joe Chill at the courthouse. He was a “lost man without a true purpose”. He’d give as little a shit about Superman as he would Paris Hilton. Lois Lane even mentions Gotham in SR so the groundwork has already been laid. So starting a Justice League movie with the classic 1st meeting we’ve seen time and again in comics with Superman chastising but ultimately befriending this vigilante on a rooftop would work. Everything I just said about the timeline could even be worked into the dialogue. Have Superman talk about how he realizes there are problems he alone can’t deal with. Have him talk about how there are others out there like them (yeah, I know it's all Mohinder but it’ll work). He can talk of reports of a red flash in Central City, giant green shapes in coastal city, etc. Have Batman be apprehensive but considering it all. Then we cut to Bruce Wayne in his daily business life. Here we’re introduced to Max Lord (Sam Neill) an older colleague of Wayne’s who he may even see as a friend/father figure seemingly the polarized opposite of Rutger Hauer’s character in BB. Max is charismatic, cunning, all those things Sam Neill is at his best as opposed to some Bryne Era-Luthor surrogate. Bruce also meets an exotically beautiful independently wealthy young woman named Talia thru Max. Max has seemingly brought Bruce and Talia together to invest in some big software project or something. At the end of the 1st act some earth-shattering event happens that Superman himself can’t handle (the omacs attack cities around the world) the rest of the league comes out of the woodwork meeting together for the 1st time. Superman is not surprised to see the Flash and Green Lantern both of whom he’s contacted since his initial meeting with Batman. Batman isn’t all that surprised by them either. What does throw them for a curve (or two) is the appearance of a certain impossibly beautiful, insanely powerful Amazon Princess. She explains that her name is Diana and she comes from an island shielded from all surveillance both man made or otherwise. There is an immediate bond between the three of them. She’s like the loving sister these two lone orphan boys never had albeit a smoking hot one. With the camera bulbs flashing on the three of them, GL and the Flash The Justice League is born. Batman is of course reluctant to join with them(even shirking away as the cameras flash) and says his role will be minimal because he has a city of his own to deal with. A mysterious crew cut police detective in a brown trenchcoat is also on the scene. <br> <br> The second act of the film shows Superman leading the league in action fighting more omacs who keep coming back and doing other stuff like setting up headquarters. Aquaman is introduced at some point and joins up. At first the League believe they’re dealing with Alien invaders as the Omacs all have the bizarre blue one eyed finhead appearance from the comics. The mysterious crew cut detective also seems to be everywhere the league is. We even see him reading a newspaper article about the Justice League fighting aliens with a knowing look on his face. Meanwhile Bruce is becoming slightly suspicious of Max and Talia while at the same time as Batman he is cautiously suspicious of his new friends in the justice league. So he starts keeping tabs on them though this isn’t of course drawn out in great detail but only hinted at. Of all the league members The Flash seems to be the most genuine even to the cynical Batman. He’s even the 1st to reveal his secret identity in a show of trust at the hall of justice. He explains the freak accident that caused his powers. He explains that his late HS/Early college age nephew Wally was also involved in the accident and has powers like him but wants to live a normal life. He respects that. <br> <br> The third act begins with Batman doing his detective thing and discovering the horrible truth about the omacs. They’re actually humans being turned into robot killing machines in a fake alien invasion perpetrated by Max who is of course looking out for human interest by exterminating the superhumans. In a great scene Max confronts Bruce and asks him to join his cause. He knows that Bruce is Batman. He’s know all along and has been using him. The reason he knows is because Talia knows and the reason she know is because she wants revenge on him for killing her father RA’S AL GHUL. So in the same scene Bruce Wayne’s two human friends turn against him. He refuses to join Max so Max pushes a button and everyone in the restaurant at the Princeton club or whatever turn into Omacs and Batman has to fight his way through a sea of superhuman robot killing machines. Lucky for him Superman and WW show up. The rest of the league follows. But now Max has the jump on them because he hacked into Batman’s files and knows all their weaknesses. Now the league is actually on the defensive and with the realization that there are people under the omacs they have to show restraint. They also face an even bigger problem when Max uses some sort of mind-bending deal on Superman. Not a direct telepathic attach (movie max is strictly human) but some sort of sonic devices that not only disorients superman but causes him to hallucinate. In a smirking speech Max reveals that he could track down any Kryptonite so he cooked this doo hicky up. Superman in a really bad trip becomes a danger to himself and others, unfocussed and randomly causing damage. Batman and Wonder Woman team up trying to stop him but he’s overpowering them. Barry’s nephew sees the battle on TV he races to the scene. Just when Max thinks he has won the mysterious police detective show up he is of course J’onn J’onzz, the Martian Manhunter. Batman doesn’t have a file on him. He telepathically fixes Superman and uses his vast array of powers to help the league fight the omacs. With J’onn and Wally’s help the league defeat the omacs but not without a cost. Barry gives his life heroically. <br> <br> In the final scene of the film the heroes gather in the hall of Justice. Wally West will obviously be the new flash though he’s not costumed. In a scene reminiscent of the scene where Barry unmasks J’onn tells them his true name and shows them his true form. They all reveal their identities to each other as a show of trust, Superman even reluctantly puts his glasses on. The last of course to take of his mask is Batman. “My name is Bruce.” <br> <br> Fin.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Hey"< br >" Comedian

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    Let"< br >" it"< br >" go

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5:28 a.m. CST

    eh heh heh

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    funny

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5:29 a.m. CST

    Miller< br >Rules

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5:30 a.m. CST

    <br>One more time

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    So I'm drunk, what's your problem

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5:57 a.m. CST

    THIS MOVIE IS GONNA SUCK

    by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell

    i hope its as good as batman and robin now theres a comic book movie done right

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 6:11 a.m. CST

    Interesting ...

    by thegrayghost

    <p>Pretty cool and interesting analysis Comedian. Having Bale and Routh would definitely up the excitement on this project, and would show WB is actually serious in making this movie a franchise at the level of Superman: The Movie, Batman Begins, Spiderman 2, and X2. Miller doesn't bother me as much ... not an obvious first choice, but the rumored story is what has really gotten me worried. You can have a great director, but if the story itself is bad, you simply have a less than satisfying movie. Think Spidey 3. Some great visuals/action, but the story sucked. Sandman was never fully fleshed out, Venom was a waste, MJ was really annoying and unsupportive, the Emo scenes … embarrassing, Gwen Stacey … pointless, etc.</p> <p>Maxwell and Talia … interesting secondary characters to help flesh out that world, but the main villains? Fighting a bunch of robots? It seems pretty uninspired. Is this a budget issue? I guess it would be cheaper to CGI an army of robots for the JL to trash, but damn I didn’t like it in that CGI Star Wars or in that crappy Will Smith movie. BB had A-level villains with a bunch of A-level actors. Is that the best the writers can come up with? Who are these writers anyway? And, it’s not just populating it with good villains. All the really good superhero movies had a strong underlying human message/story (i.e. fear, responsibility, tolerance, etc.) that the audience can identify with. JLA just sounds like a big F/X action movie with no soul … ala X3.</p> <p>Pull some ideas from the creative minds of Kingdom Come, JLA Unlimited, etc. And WHY does anyone need to die in the 1st JLA movie? If the Flash does die, I hope he gets better treatment than Cyclops/Xavier in X3 … I’m thinking of his heroic death in Crisis on Infinite Earths. And as for Maxwell being able to infiltrate Batman’s super-computers … seems pretty insulting to treat the world’s greatest detective in this manner.</p>

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 8:27 a.m. CST

    wolfman nards

    by ironic_name

    will you kill yourself if in 4 months the movie is still on? <P> thats a nice bet.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 8:51 a.m. CST

    thecomedian

    by tme2nsb

    That is exactly what the movie should be like. Enjoyed reading that. Not nearly as good as Secret Origins, but it is nice.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 9:24 a.m. CST

    It really doesn't matter...

    by metaluna

    ...what supervillains they put in this crap idea for a movie. It's going to suck and is a cynical attempt by the studio to jump start a franchise. It's just tired, dead horse flogging with unoriginal characters we've seen a hundred times. Yawn.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 9:29 a.m. CST

    How is it crap?

    by tme2nsb

    And how is it a crap idea? Just because YOU think it's a cynical attempt and the characters are unoriginal, doesn't mean it's crap.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Oh I see...

    by metaluna

    ...so somehow even though IT IS a cynical attempt at a franchise with no character worth doesn't mean it's its going to be crap? Care to explain your logic or maybe you just like seeing people run about in tights and capes no matter how crap the film? I mean, just how much of this pap can you drink?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Giving it a chance

    by tme2nsb

    Well this "rumored" script was written before Mr Miller came on board - so I'm pretty sure there will be revisions, but until there is an official press release and maybe a more believable fake script, I have all hope for this project. And for the record, only three will be having capes, I'm sure ;)

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 10:13 a.m. CST

    The REAL supervillain in this movie is

    by William Landis

    a hybrid of Lex Luthor (Billy Zane) and The Joker (Steve Carell) called THE LEXKER which uses its elegant insectoid waste (designed by Stan Winston) to lay Critters capable of growing to the size of planets..."Oh there will be a galactic war, Bats, like you would not believe! (The Lexker LAUGHS HYSTERICALLY)".

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Good to see Talia in there...

    by www.revyou.tv

    Always felt she had such potential as a villain and it's rarely realized (although Grant Morrison seems to be heading in that direction in his run on the comic). But not getting to see Paradise Island? Come on! Sounds like a budgetary decision to me - and those are never good. Wonder Woman has no secret identity, so where's she spend all her time? And for the record, this Clark Kent rip-off she's doing in the comics is weak, and it's be a shame to see it repeated in this movie.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST

    No, Raymar...please read the article again...

    by The Moseph

    No, no Guardians. The article clearly states "not at all" regarding whether or not we see the Guardians or any other Green Lantern such as Hal Jordan.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST

    well with that brief, weak ass synopsis...

    by alienindisguise

    seems like this will will be "JLA mad for tv movie" bad and if Miller turns into a nutsac and tries to remotely do anything to make this flick look like 300, it will fail without question. 300 was a piece of overhyped shit.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    agreed

    by tme2nsb

    300 for JLA? <br> Please no way.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Jonathan Rhys Meyers is Maxwell Lord

    by Blueberry

    According to the rumor that's circulating on some boards.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST

    I like what thecomedian had to say!

    by ninpobugei

    Yes, I read the entire post and script treatment - and it was good! <br><br> The Routh/Bale thing would be a necessity if they insist on doing this movie as a live-action cheese-fest. If they were to take my suggestion of a more artistic approach (something on the order of 300) THEN they could have different actors and it would still work since the LOOK of the various franchises would be different. If, however, they are all standard live-action, it would be odd to say the least.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, noon CST

    Give it a chance?

    by metaluna

    Erm, how's about no? I'm sick of being offered up childish, ill thought out, shit ideas like this by Hollywood studios that cost a fortune and take up way too much real estate at the cinemas. Superheroes - been there done that. Thanks, but no. Maybe Hollywood likes aiming expensive tentpole movies at geeks and pre pubescents who are easily pleased, but I for one am tired of it. The whole premise is totally flawed. We're supposed to believe that there somehow exists a world full of superheroes? And I guess all the criminals just give up and we all live happily ever after. I'm sorry, I can somehow suspend my disbelief that maybe one exists but a whole gang of them? Nice in a comic book. Stupid in reality.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 12:01 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with 300?

    by ninpobugei

    You guys need to think again...300 was a visual feast, which is what JLA needs to succeed. If they make a standard, live-action movie, it will be utter cheese. If, however, they painted with an artistic palette SIMILAR to the LOOK of 300, then they could make an Alex Ross-ish JLA. IMO, it's the only way.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 1:51 p.m. CST

    William Shatner snubbed for a role in new Star Trek movie -confi

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    http://tinyurl.com/37loxz <BR> <BR> Why no talkback on this yet?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    William Shatner snubbed for a role in new Star Trek movie

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Confirmed! http://tinyurl.com/37loxz <BR> <BR> Why no talkback on this yet?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Maxwell Lord

    by phast freddy

    from Wikipedia-He also used his powers to influence Superman's mind, causing him to brutally beat up Batman and attack Wonder Woman, believing them to be his old enemies (ie Brainiac, Darkseid, Ruin, and Doomsday). This is significant because he was never before shown to actually be able to cause full blown hallucinations through his minor psionic powers. After barely escaping from Superman, Wonder Woman confronted Lord and bound him in her lasso of truth; telling him to tell her how to free Superman; Lord tells her she has to kill him, and she snaps his neck. In response, Brother Eye cast the footage of Wonder Woman executing Lord all over the world, destroying her reputation and her friendship with Batman and Superman (who rejected her despite the fact that she saved their lives). this would be cool but doesn't work with a Buffy style WW

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:19 p.m. CST

    The Shatner story is bullshit.

    by Shermdawg

    The movie will end with a surprise cameo from Bill, just watch. They wanna keep it under wraps as best they can and if the film does end up sucking, the appearance will generate enough buzz to keep the box office up after opening week. And if Shat becomes even more vocal about his disapproval of the film, you know it's a work to rile up the fanbase. And when those who spent months crapping over the prouction online, cursing the name of J.J. Abrams, sees him walk on screen, they'll bust out in tears in unison. <br><br> He'll be in there. This isn't him pulling a Nimoy (Generations). <br><br> I hope.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    metaluna

    by tme2nsb

    And when are super hero movies based in reality? Every fucking movie out there you gotta know it's not reality, because you're kidding yourself when you say otherwise. Spidey 1 + 2, not reality, but hey, it did great. Xmen 1 + most of 2, no reality, but hey, it did great. Superman 1, 2 and 3 - HEY WHAT THE FUCK. If animation can do it right (DCAU only), then movies can do it right. But sadly, there are dumbasses (and I am not saying YOU are one), that want to knock this project down every shot it gets, just because people hear it's being rushed and superman returns sucked. However, with the FAKE casting confirmations, and the possibility of this script not even making it to the screen, and the bitching about different actors (gee, comics do it, television shows do it, duuurrr I guess that means movies can do it too) -- I say to everyone who is bitching to just wait and see. If this script gets shot the way it is, then I won't defend it anymore.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg

    by tme2nsb

    I wish they could explain the events from "The Return" on the big screen...but considering it takes place right after "Generations" and way before "Ship of the Line", I feel like Shatner's appearence will leave me crying.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST

    hey metaluna <P> how 'bout you stop posting

    by ironic_name

    your arguments are trolling and pointless. <P> let the grownups talk.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST

    <P> <P> <P> <P>

    by ironic_name

    testing.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:42 p.m. CST

    The problem with this flick...

    by BizarroJerry

    The problem is, I think many of these characters deserve a chance for their own movies, with their own tone, theme, production design, etc, etc. Sticking them all in one movie right away seems like it'd just ruin the chance for any non-Superman and Batman movies. Why is it that Marvel seems willing to toss every crappy comic book idea up in the screen while WB/DC seems to fear it. I suppose JLA is their answer to X-Men, but the X-men were a team all along, not solo stars. Granted, the Marvel movies beyond Spider-Man and X-Men haven't done so well, but I venture to guess Iron Man may be successful enough to make WB think twice. If they're not even going to bother with the current movie S-man and B-man, why not try a couple solo movies before teaming them up?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    You know Shermdawg I wish that were true but

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    from the harsh statements made by Shatner if he was really going to be in the movie do you think he would really say things that extreme?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 3:42 p.m. CST

    He wanted four rock monsters? Or something

    by tme2nsb

    Yeah<br> I love the quote from futurama:<br> Leonard Nimoy: When I directed Star Trek IV, I got a good performance out of Bill because I respected him so much. <br><br> William Shatner: And when I directed Star Trek V, I got a good performance out of me because I respected me so much. <br><br> Funny stuff. So true too.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5 p.m. CST

    Bale and Routh

    by Brians Life

    AHHHH! Are we still talking about this?! They're not gonna be in this movie...it's BETTER that they aren't. Bale's Batman doesn't exist in a world where the Justice League would make sense...everything about Batman is hyper grounded in reality. Routh's Superman, while I consider MEDIOCRE at best, he also has his own universe. Why can't some of you let that go? You think that the whole bunch of people that DIDN'T go see Superman Returns is gonna turn around and go see JL 'cause "Ohhh...that Superman from that movie that most of the general public didn't bother seeing is at it again"!?!?!

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Oh, and thecomedian and metaluna...

    by Brians Life

    Yeah, you're both idiots. Harsh? Sure, but on an electronic venue words speak just as loud as actions.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Let the grown ups talk?

    by metaluna

    You mean the grown ups in here who read comic books and think they constantly make good, original films? AAAAAHHHHAAAAA HA HA HA HA. Yeh... right. Warner Brothers, it's your funeral. Ever heard of the notion of 'saturation point'? That's your next stop if you make this piece of crap idea.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Herc, that's ridiculous. I don't have to have faith in someone w

    by Darth Bauer

    The only two films he made in the past decade have been kids films. And one wasn't even live action. I don't care who it is, I don't have to have faith in someone because of the films he made 20-25 years ago(and nothing on that grand a scale since). They picked Miller because he was cheaper than someone more known. And since they're not even willing to shell out extra money for Routh and Bale WHO HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED AS TWO MAIN CHARACTERS, they want to go the cheap route. The Mad Max films were awesome, but he has done NOTHING since to garner any anticipation. The story sucks, the way the studio treats these properties sucks, and Miller isn't going to save anything. I respect Miller, but how his status here became so godly is absurd.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Give me a break

    by Crestfallen

    <p>My how times have changed. Ten years ago, comic book properties got no respect from Hollywood studios. The first X-Men film was considered risky. Fanboys would get a hard on with any rumor of some superhero flick in development.</p> <p>Now, everyone is bitching that the Justice League is in pre-production, charging the WB with raw greed. Of course projected revenue is always the controlling in factor hollywood. But it always has been.</p> <p>I'd love to see a good JLA movie, I'm crossing my fingers because it could be a shitfest. The script sounds good (based on 'The Omac Project'). Ten years ago, no fanboy would be bitching about a major hollywood studio making a JLA picture. So chill the fuck out.</p>

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Guys...STOP IT...you're killing me.

    by Brians Life

    There is a DISTINCT difference between certain talkbackers...SOME seem to make predictions or generate optimism based on these crazy little notions of past experiences and knowledge....MOST seem to simply spew out what they believe to be the best possible scenario and anything to the contrary MUST instantly be crap. Really...as some one that sometimes likes to sit back and watch the chaos unfold..you guys are CRACKIN me up!

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 7:19 p.m. CST

    One at a time....Crestfallen...you're sort of a genius..

    by Brians Life

    And for the first time in my life, I'm not being sarcastic. Now, that's not to say that ANY news concerning a comic book related property is good news...BUT so far this has been good news.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Darth Bauer

    by Brians Life

    Tell me RIGHT NOW how much money George Miller is making for this movie! And they're obviously taking the cheap router since they're not casting Bale and Routh and it has absolutely nothing to do with the possibility that seeing Bale and Routh might even be MORE confusing to those unwilling to accept 2 actors playing the same character. Let's take Bale out of his gritty real world-esque Gotham City and toss him in a glimmering tower with the rest of the League?!? SOUND GOOD!?! I'm sure his riot gear armor will fit in nicely with the primary color palette of the rest of the League. Personally, I would rather a director that only makes 2 or 3 good movies every decade...some one that is proven cross-genre and CAN direct action.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Darth...one more little piece of cheese...

    by Brians Life

    that you'll have to get your head around. "The story sucks." You said that. You also stated that WB is gonna go cheap with this....now this would be like ME typing the following: "You all don't know what you're talking about. This movie will have the best screenplay since Ten Commandments! It's visual effects will be so good and loud that your ear drums will bleed and I can safely say that it will be nominated for and win NOT ONLY every Academy Award but every Grammy and Tony award as well...'cause it will be THAT fucking good!!!!!" <br> See how that sounds?

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 8:30 p.m. CST

    from Cinema Blend

    by Live.

    By Josh Tyler: 2007-10-26 13:02:00 <p> I’m flat out sick of reporting on Justice League of America casting rumors. The movie sounds like it’s going to be a second tier, replacement actors, teen superheroes flick and it’s being directed by a guy who thinks it’s such an important project… that he’s shooting two other movies simultaneously with it. There’s no way JLA is going to be any good, and we’re all wasting our time by paying attention to it. <p> Still, I guess it’s my job to report this stuff, no matter how much it beats me down. So I’m just going to spit this latest casting rumor out and be done with it. An actress named Teresa Palmer may have been cast as Wonder Woman in JLA, according to Moviehole. They seem pretty certain about it, so maybe this is it and we can stop reporting on at least this role. Thank god.<p> Teresa played the blonde girl Vanessa in The Grudge 2. She’s mostly done bit parts in movie’s you’ve seen, or bigger parts in movie’s you haven’t. She’s 21 years old and 5’5” which makes her too young and too short to play Wonder Woman… if Warner Brothers was making a movie that was at all faithful to the characters rather than a film designed to sell discount boxes of cereal. Sadly, it’s the latter that’s going on here and not the former.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 8:36 p.m. CST

    from Slashfilms.com

    by Live.

    Teresa Palmer is Wonder Woman? <p> Posted on Friday, October 26th, 2007 at 10:52 am by: Peter Sciretta <p> The big news today is the supposed casting of Wonder Woman in the big screen Justice League movie. Moviehole claims that Teresa Palmer may have scored the role. <p> Age 21 years of age, Palmer is the youngest of the bunch of Wonder Woman hopefuls. Her publicity materials list her as 5′ 5¾”, which is considerably shorter Amazon character who is known for her curvaceous long legs. The modern day character is 6′3″ while the older version was much shorter (5′11″ was “amazonian” height for a woman in the 1960’s). Palmer starred in December Boys and The Grudge 2.<p> Again, this casting has not been 100% confirmed by the studio. But looking over the past hopefuls for the role worries me a bit. Does Warner Bros have any idea what they are doing with this film? It’s beginning to look a lot like the JJ Abrams Star Trek casting, young actors with little to no name value

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 10:28 p.m. CST

    "Superman has a huge part..."

    by Napoleon Park

    before I read the comments to see how many other people mentioned this, I just want to say for the record that I always assumed as much.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 11:07 p.m. CST

    the good

    by Napoleon Park

    1. I like that the article says that they're using the original early '60s line-up of the founding menbers of The Justice league Of America. <p> 2. I like that it says they're NOT going the obvious fanboy route and casting a team of villaims ala Super-Friends.<p> 3. It makes sense to cast two plain-clothes villains and some robots as the bad guys since the mainstream public will be overwhelmed with seven heroes in colorful tights. <p> 4. The director's best work was the early Mad Max movies, so it's a cool in joke that he wants a villain named Max.<p> 5. The superheroes fight among themselves cliche works here because of the old question "what does Superman need assistants for?" they have to beat him to demonstrate to the viewing public that Superman isn't omnipotent, invulnerable and all-powerful, in order to justify WHY he needs a team.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 11:09 p.m. CST

    People are really stupid

    by tme2nsb

    I love this talk back.

  • Oct. 27, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST

    the bad

    by Napoleon Park

    Fan-babies who post "Oh boo hoo, unless they get Kirk Alyn (with Bud Collyer dubbing in the voice) and Adam West, include a sequence that established that the John Astin Riddler episode of "Batman" was a dream, put all of Crisis On Infinite Earths in the opening teaser (in flashbacks) and have the main story include my fan-fic version of the death of Gypsy where she dies while having sex with Vibe the Break-Dance Boy, then this will have carnal relations with donkey scroat.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 1:09 a.m. CST

    JOSH HARTNETT

    by tehgreekhammer

    Where have you gone?

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 1:11 a.m. CST

    RE: Josh Hartnett

    by Live.

    to Alaska. And a massive 2nd weekend BO fall.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 3:56 a.m. CST

    No trilogy for BEGINS/DARK KNIGHT

    by Dolph

    That's my greatest fear about the Justice League movie: that Nolan and co. will be so pissed at JL destroying the image of Batman they've worked hard to create, that they abandon the third chapter because of it.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Brians Life- Thanks for the sleeping pills you just wrote to me.

    by Darth Bauer

    First, saying WB didn't put Bale into this film just because he was "gritty" is absurd. Batman is Batman, no matter where he is. And Bale is a good Bat. Characters shouldn't change because of the setting of the film. So you think Bats should be all smiles and friendly in this film? Is that what Batman does? No. He should be played exactly the same way no matter what film he is in. You don't like his riot gear for this movie? Maybe put some nipples on the Batsuit and you'll be happier. And we saw how that ended up. A director that can make hits is good. But I would rather have someone who has had hits within the genre in at least the last 2 decades, rather than someone who talking pig and penguin films for the past 10 years, and hasn't tackled and action film in over 20 years. Yes, it will be cheaply made. WB doesn't know how to utilize their properties. They don't care about story, they care about profit. That's they the majority of Marvel films have been fantastic. And your whole second post to me was so generic and lame. Stop listening to yourself talk and say something of importance. You made me want to fall asleep. Thanks.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 7:29 a.m. CST

    DAVID DOBKIN TO DIRECT A FLASH MOVIE WILL BE A SPINOFF

    by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell

    of the justice league movie.FUCK THIS GUY IS DIRECTING FRED CLAUS WTF http://www.superherohype.com/n ews/topnews.php?id=6456

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 7:29 a.m. CST

    take out the spaces in the link

    by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell

    once again...duh

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Invisitext

    by mascan42

    doesn't work so well when the background color changes.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 10:32 a.m. CST

    too many cooks?

    by theycallmemrglass

    only X-men managed to pull that off but even X-men only focussed on a select 3/4 characters which even they were not totally fleshed out. multiple heroes/villains stories only really work as a series and not as a single movie for obvious reasons. I hope they can pull off this Justice league and deliver the goods but its a tough job so I will be sceptic for now and hope to be proven wrong.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 10:35 a.m. CST

    But George Miller is a kickass director..

    by theycallmemrglass

    ...so maybe this might work....still tough job for him.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    As a card-carrying fanboy, I'm stoked about a Justice League mov

    by Snookeroo

    'Cause I never thought it would really be produced, but always hoped it would. I am disappointed by the villain choices, though. And, as a Silver Age comics guy, I wish they featured Hal Jordan as Green Lantern.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    that's Justice League MOVIE, not mov.

    by Snookeroo

    Damn these talkbacks.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Darth Bauer...you're funny, man.

    by Brians Life

    Dude, i've gotta assume that you really did fall asleep and not read my post, 'cause it looks like you responded to one that you made up. It's absolutely amazing that you make the same broad sweeping declarations about my previous post as you do about this movie. It's hysterical. When did I say that simply being "gritty" was why Bale isn't in JLA?!? My POINT, was that Bales universe is vastly different from the one that would be created in JLA, I believe that no other super heroes exist in Nolan's Batman universe...are you getting this? I mean, I'd be more than happy to type l i k e t h i s. Also, Schumacher's films will show that your "batman is batman" is flawed and setting and vision plays a great deal in what type of batman we get...and hey, i agree about Bale. Best Batman thus far, but that doesn't mean we CAN'T have another take on the part. Does it? Also, next time you reply do this: read what I've written and respond to THAT rather than making up shit or attacking me via ad hominem. Also, just take a few minutes to write a better joke....the whole "sleeping pills you wrote." That makes no sense. <br> <br>Okay, to sum up: i don't want Batman to be "smiles" in this movie. You DON'T know therefor cannot say this movie will be made cheaply, so just stop it. Oh, and according to you WB doesn't know how to handle it's properties, yet we DO have BATMAN BEGINS and what looks like a damn find sequel a coming. Also, I can't listen to myself talk (which I DO love) when I'm fucking TYPING!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Darth Bauer...ONE MORE...forgot about your Marverl films line...

    by Brians Life

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <br> <br> oh wait...<br><br> No, I was right to laugh. <br><br>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<br> Name what Marvel films have been FANTASTIC! Please? Hold on let me think: I've only got Spider-Man, X-Men 2 and Spider-Man 2 on my list. Iron Man looks promising, but that line your wrote was more telling that ANYTHING else you'll ever hope to write. Well, at least now I know what I'm dealing with....oh, and just so you don't turn this into a Marvel vs. DC thing, I thought that Singer entirely missed the point with Superman Returns. Have at thee, Suuuuuuuucka!!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Krock

    by Napoleon Park

    The costuming in Jedi was basically a fantasy film, like the Ring trilogy. Luke wears a karate gi, Han dresses like a cowboy, the ewoks were teddy bears and the storm troopers were interchangable robots. The only character in that film who wore a superhero/supervillain costume and had superpowers was Darth Vader, and he was basically a Black Knight. The mainstream public knows Superman, Wonder Woman and The Flash from TV, there hasn't been an accurate live action depiction of the Batman costume since the Adam West show except for Blind Alley and 90% of the public (the ones who don't read comic books and think all animation are childrens cartoon shows) don't know who Green Lantern is. I hope they get the costumes right, but even though the Martian Manhunter is iconic as the first Silver Age DC superhero, his body-builder muscles, swashbucklet boots, collared cape, bare chest and bonbdage harness suspenders are as gay looking as all get out. Oh, can't forget Aquaman's finned scuba leotards and goldfish-skin shirt. That's quite enough for the mainstream audiences to have to deal with without trying to dump the legion of doom on them as well. That Batman villain with the lipstick is bad enough without trying to flog Trickster, Cheetahgirl, the Black Manatee and a talking gorilla on the unsuspecting public. Give it up, krank, it ain't gonna happen.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 6:15 p.m. CST

    It's a bad idea, krock

    by Napoleon Park

    making a live action superfriends movie would only appeal to the children who watched the show in the '70s and never grew up. <p>cross-post with the Pelham 123 talkback: John Travolta as Maxwell Lord hijacks a subway car and flies it to Cuba. With Jared the Subway guy as the conductor for product placement and a 21 year old blonde Australian midget in the Martin Balsam role.

  • Oct. 28, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST

    I wish they'd

    by Mr_X

    actually just get on with it. but its gives me little hope

  • Oct. 29, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST

    L.O.D. anyone??

    by riddleman1674

    Did someone just forget about this fact when they mentioned supervillians? No Lex Luthor? That night have helped ticket sales for Superman Returns but not this movie. Jezuz dont these fucking people get a gawddammned clue??!!! That's like having the X-Men go up against Styker in the first movie. Fuck it, we dont need to bother with Magneto. Let's have them off some sorry villian no one really gives a shit about and then fight each other. No need for important characters. And all they can kept going back to in this fucking questionaire was this amazing fight between Superman, Wonder Woman, & Batman??!! Tell me why I'm supposed to give a fuck? Where's Braniac, Grundy, Bizzaro, The Toy Man, Black Manta, Cheetara when you need to makea kick ass movie? Wait this would be cramming to much into one movie right?? But let's cast completely different actors into two roles that it took well over a decade to revive. Fucking IDIOTS...you know what the people want? HAHAHAHAHA

  • Oct. 29, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Cheetara!

    by riddleman1674

    Haha that's how steamed I am, just noticed I meant to say Cheetah it that LOD line up in my last post, but fuck it, while I fucked that up, let's propose adding all the fucking Thundercats in to the JL movie as the Supervillians! Brilliant idea huh?! Damn I should go work for Warner!