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The ALIEN/PREDATOR Hybrid From AVP: REQUIEM Has Been Revealed By USA Today!! More Advil Needed!!
Merrick here...
While I love the ALIEN and PREDATOR films...warts and all...I really kind of hated ALIEN VS. PREDATOR. So, when a sequel was announced, my enthusiasm was too low to register.
Then we started seeing teasers and trailers; I especially love the one with graphics showing the town's diminishing population numbers intercut with mayhem from the movie. That's groovy.
I also liked the movie's marketing tag line: "This Christmas, there will be no peace on Earth" - or whatever it is. Clever. Smart. Funny. Base.
Okay, fine. "I'm there" I thought. "This might work afterall" I reluctantly admitted.
Now comes this image. Posted by USA Today in THIS ARTICLE. It's the Predator/Alien hybrid from ALIEN VS. PREDATOR: REQUIEM. I guess this is the same little guy who popped out at the end of the first AVP.

I'm not in the best mood today, so I'm 100% willing to admit I could be way off base here & thoroughly tainted by grumpiness. But...is it just me...or does that look dopey as hell? Looks like it's from some kind of MAD TV skit or something...
...RastAlien!
Sigh.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. As always, discuss, exalt, or lambaste in the Talkbacks below.

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Not bad. Need better lighting
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need another AvP pile of shit?
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My childhood just threw up, fell down the stairs, broke all limbs, and then it's brain exploded.
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it looks awful. just like every accursed second of the first AVP.
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...for a TalkBack shitstorm of monstrous proportions.
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It'll be moving so fast we won't even notice the details
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Looks like a twat
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AvP wasnt THAAAAT bad. I actually enjoyed it. Ok, I admit it wasnt as good as Alien 1,2 or Predator, but it was as good or better than the other craptacular sequels put out. This looks pretty good in the trailers. Give it a chance!
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Doesen't look all that bad.
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Maybe we will see SoulPatch Tony Almeida's late wife fight this sucker while Winona Ryder watches it get sucked out of a hole in the ship's hull while almost crashing into Earth!
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it looks like crap. a stupid gimmick dreamed up to make 14 year old boys go wow, cool. NEWSFLASH: The original Alien and Predator films were not designed for those in their lower teens.
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... opening the titles come up and it says "Forget every movie that came after ALIENS. Thank you."
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Forgot to talk about the pic, Yeah, it looks kinda weak for an attempt at the AP hybrid. Uninspired. I'm waiting to see him toke up and sing some Marley. He looks like a pissed off member of John Candy's Jamaican bobsled team...
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I can't remember the last piece of shit AvP movie. Now, if this guy burst from a Predator, I have to call foul. It looks too much like a Predator. We've seen the aliens burst from humans and a dog. No way did either end result look close to a human or a dog. Influenced, yes, but only very slightly. Why does this thing just look like a Predator with Alien bits stuck on? He just looks like he's made from leftovers of the make-up department.
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It actually looks kinda cool
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but in AvP, they established that the Predator's had an antartic base to train young predators by fighting the ailens if I remember correctly. Well then after 100s or 1000s of years of doing this, the Predators had no backup plan for this eventuallity. I mean these are the greatest hunters in the universe, who have weapons and crap for everything and this is the first time this has happened...awwwww the logic escapes me, oh well as a good frined of mine points out everytime we see a stupid mistake in a movie, he goes "it's in the script"oh and that just looks...weird but who knows maybe it'll work in context
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This is a pic taken without any context as to how it moves, attacks, anything...it may very well kick our asses. I'll wait to see it in action. Side Note: Who posted this article? There's no ID...I'm going to assume Merrick since he's on a cut-and-paste roll this morning.
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... why should this be any different. Paul W.T.F. Anderson managed to destroy TWO cool scifi franchises with the last film, why shouldn't this one just rub salt in the wound? The trailer looks awful as does this image. Please. Just. Stop.
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they should ruin 2 other great films.. What can we do that would be really horrible? I know!!!! I've got it, this is geneous! JAWS VS. KING KONG!!!! And in the climactic final sequence we can see JAWS, bloody and battered, swimming along the sea floor, give birth to a giant gorilla with a dorsal and tail fin, gills and rows and rows of razor sharp teeth!!!! Wow I can see the Taco Bell tie in marketing campaign now!
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Does he have a blunt to do with his dreads?
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I thought it would look much worse than that. I mean, they've established that the Alien takes on properties of it's host, hence the more animal like one in Alien 3. So this doesn't surprise or bother me. What will bother me is if it still just acts like any other alien, or if some cool Predator attributes come with it. Like it's vision (not the infrared helmet, but the red heat vision predators have with their eyes), and maybe it becomes more of a hunter for sport, rather than food. An alien that relishes the fight could be kick ass!
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was good. It actually had blood and thats a step foward in my opinion.
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Forgive me! I need smokes and caffeine.
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It's not the design...well it is but that is not at the heart of the problem. It is this IDEA that was instigated in Alien 3 that the Alien takes on the traits of whatever it uses as a host...something I still can't like. I've tried...but I can't. It just reeks of "I'm borrrrrrrrred with the Alien design...lets shake things up". They forgot that it's the DESIGN that makes the Alien movies what they are...same with Predator...
James Cameron had a similar idea but it WORKED. He thought "i'm bored with just the one Alien, how can i change it?" and he did so by just making a shit ton more. Which made them scary, in a different way...
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I wanna know who the grump is.
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stronger than both aliens and predators, with the inhanced intelligence.
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Damn, son...who YOU been fuckin'?!?!
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And I hope he cross breeds with another alien species so we can have 3 movies crash into each other. I dunno, have him fuck Alf.
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Jah, mahn!
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look weird because it looks like he's hanging out at his apartment...
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Come on guy's... How exactly would you have handled the design huh? An alien assimilates the traits of those it infects, right? Well, the only trait it gets from it's hosts is the skeletal structure (at least from what we've seen from the movies). If it's human, it walks in two's, if it's a dog it walks in fours, and so on. Well the only defining feature a Pred has is it's mandible structure and those dreds, other than that it's humanoid, cause the only other cool thing about them is their tech, and that's not in it's biology!!!
I love the trailer, I think it's the first time I've actually been exited about this franchise since Aliens. I think the producers and directors have the right idea, there not pulling any punches, and the movie looks like one hell of a ride. Chances are this will be the only clear image we'll see of the Predalien. The rest of the time it'll probably be in the shadows and moving fast. So just hold off the bitching 'till you see it in action. For God's sake, it's not Transformers!!! -
With all the books I've read on screenwriting and horrible scripts being paid for, you would think it would be alot easier to break into the business
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Transformers basher.
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Stupid? Okay, I'll give you that. Ruin the whole movie? Doubt it. Hopefully it hates Predators AND Aliens AND Humans AND Puppies. I think the trailer looked awesome and this doesn't really ruin it for me. Is it really that bad? The only thin I will say is that unfortunately it ties you to the previous movie.
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Big........
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kind of like a backyard water toy gone haywire. By the way, I respect all of you...even you alien/predator hybrid. Even you...
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I wonder if they worked in a hot Alien on Predator love scene... just think of the drama they could add to the story: visitation, child support, 50/50 custody! They could even have them on Maury for a paternity test!! "In the case of little Predalien... Predator you ARE the father!" Then Alien can run off stage crying and yelling "I told you! I told you! How could you do this to me?! I told you you was the babydaddy!"
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Nice sculpt but a difficult Hybrid design to pull of, I would have prefered more emphasis on the Predators facial attributes, i.e mandibles with an Alien retractible jaw inside and an elongate skeletal head.
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...complete with Face Hugger insignia on it's chest. Hows about Hollywood actually comes up with an ORIGINAL movie for a change? When you constantly regurgitate what were originally two bad ass movie monsters, they start to look like this. Bring on the MIST!!!
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That was what I first thought of when I saw this laughable thing, actually...
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Oct 26, 2007 9:45:35 AM CDT
Has there been no coverage of the Repo! trailer on Spike?
by stovetopstuffin'
Or did I miss it? It looks awesome, despite Hilton being in it!
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This looks like crap like everything else on the matter of AvP. As far as I'm concerned, this is just a shitty movie franchise based on some mediocre videogames that were based on two wonderful movie franchises.
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Design a Pred-Alien that's actually cool looking?
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Predailen in what looks like a school. What a load of wank.
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We already saw it in the trailer. It was dark, but you definitely see it.
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I'll still probably wait 4 this to hit DvD though
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You guys are so harsh. Aliens Resurrection. Now THAT was a horrible, horrible attempt at an Aliens film. And, let's not forget Predator 2. Utter garbage. I agree that better directors and more money need to be focused on this since Cameron raised the bar. Look, a decent film in this genre is better than most attempts or no films at all. However, I disagree about letting it die. Sorry, but we need a sci-fi horror injection a lot more often and the Sci-Fi channel ain't providing the fix. They haven't made/aquired a decent film. Ever. Mansquito? Chupacabra? Cerebus? AAAAAAA! Watch a few of their movies and then this will look like Cameron himself did it.
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Is such a suck-ass idea in the first place I can't see how anyone could get emo about it "not working".
Listen, they are cool looking beasties and all, but honestly put in a regular environment they are just slasher goons.
AvP (*ANY* AvP is like Jason vs The Shape - two non-talking, personality free baddies! Jacking up the numbers doesn't help because at best all you're going to see is another zombie/infected style horror movie with heavier use of CG and prosthetics.
Alien was cool because of the whole environment, it was a haunted house movie in space with a cool-ass monster that did things we hadn't seen before.
Predator was just an upmarket slasher movie in the first place. Bigger stars, better dialog (sorta), and that kick-ass attack on the rebel camp sequence notwithstanding...
Both ideas were well played out long before WS Anderson did his PG13 on AvP. Seriously, anyone watched Alien Ressurrection recently? What a piece of rancid dog-poop that was...
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It had Bill Paxton AND Gary Busey in the same movie?! Too awesome. The only weak part of that movie is Glover, who was definitely not the person to replace Ahnold, despite the change from the jungle to the city. If they have put Bruce Willis in that role, or even Sly...it would have rocked so much more. Glover had his LW cred, but I don't think he struck too many people as being able to go mano a alieno with the Predator.
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That some of you are actually looking forward to this odious, steaming pile of shite. Why? And Alien 3 is underrated- It certainly pisses all over 4 and AvP (and most likely this one)
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NONE. As in stop making shite movies like this! AvP is only kewl in the world of video games. Call me cynical if you want but that alien hybrid would only be kewl if there wasn't almost 30 years of history behind the films that inspired it and was a purely original concept...making a Predalien (stupid name if there ever was one) just smacks of "12 year old script-writers" and the end result is ass. Sure without Anderson on board this stands a chance of at least being watchable popcorn but still....a god damned Predalien?!?! I mean jeebus...even in Alien 3 the "new" alien didn't have any Rottweiler characteristics. No fur, no brown and black markings, no freakin dog ears...it was just shaped and sized a bit different. Now it takes on direct qualities from the host in the form of dreds and the insect-mandible/vagina mouth? Pardon me as I staple bologna to my face and dip my head in a fish tank full of pirahna.
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Honestly, will you guys EVER stop getting burnt?
Anderson involved? Movie will suck.
I already hear people getting excited about POSTAL and saying that it could be Uwe Boll`s only good movie because the material is a good fit. Sigh. It will also suck ass. Just deal with it. For every BATMAN BEGINS there are three UNDERWORLD or AVP movies out there.
As long as you still go and watch that crap expecting something good, the studios will keep on aiming low.
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It looks fine. It'll look better on screen and moving. As for the whole movie itself, I really am looking forward to it. Seems in a similar spirit to the first Predator movie and seems very claustrophobic like the old Alien movie. Oh, and AVP wasnt bad, the Alien queen battle at the end was pretty cool watching her run and knock shit over.
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With predators having no personality, man? Didn't you saw it in AvP.. the Predator falling in love and all? About the solo franchises sequels, although I recognize its flaws, I LOVE Predator 2. Not as good as the first one, but great nonetheless. Alien 3 and Resurrection also have their flaws, and they're BIG ONES, but still, they are both waaaay better than that bloody diarhea called AvP.
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BATMAN BEGINS become the standard for all movies...LOL
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The first AVP was a big fucken pile of garbage and I don't give a fuck who you are, if you liked it, fuck you. It's the movie by which I will jusge you if I ever find you have it sitting in your video collection, right there alongside all the Shrek and Underworld films. But I have to admit, watching the trailer for this sequal, and even looking at this photo, I'm willing to give this a shot. First of all, the design of the predator is dead on what it should be. There were moments in the trailer that, effects-wise, looked like they could have been from the original movie. I'm worried it will end up being all gore, all flash and no content, but there's no fucking way it could get worse than that first pile of shit. NO FUCKING WAY!
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Then the winner can fight the Seed of Chucky!
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"cool runnings, mon!"
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Thats always been the problem with predators, theyre not convincing as another species. Aliens do, I think, because of the long shape of their heads. When you make the head more round (like with this predalien) it just looks too much like a guy wearing a costume. The hair adds to that then because its so obviously human/rastafarian.
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Debra Wilson is looking better than ever here.
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Yes you- Omar, cerberoz and the rest of you whores- either tell me how you got the job or fuck off. AvP is a travesty and AvP2 will be as bad- see Fist Dirtbox's excellent post as to why.
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I have to disagree on you on your words about Glover, man. Seriously, IMO one of the great things about his character is precisely the way it seemed he wouldn't be able to take on the Predator but, in the end of day, he actually accomplished more than Scheffer. Not only he survived a far more technologic enhanced Predator, but stopped him from using his final weapon, chased him all the way to his ship and then killed the fucker, mano a mano. Many will say it was cheesy, I think it was some awesome change from what happened in the first Predator.
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Slightly off topic but...
Do you hail from the UK?
Just noticed you spelt "Colour" the right way!
But I will say on this topic that if this film turns out like the last one, we can kiss goodbye to any chance of a return to form further down the line!!
Although the 2 guys directing this have stated that they really want to distance themselves from the last film, well apart from that bloody predalien thingy above!
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The more they try to humanize preds, the lamer they get.
Biggest thing is you cannot build character around two factions of MUTE bad-guys. One side don't communicate, the other can't... how piss-weak is that.
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Are you one of those insufferable types who only has "good" movies in his collection? C'mon, surely you have at least one DVD you knew you hated even before you bought it. If not, you're not much of a geek.
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Is this a 'Ligor," vs. 'Tion' thing?
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Man, that looks terrible. The Predator side-teeth are awful. They should have included them inside the second mouth instead.
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Yup, born and raised. the point is- the 2 dickheads directing this steaming pile of excrement have still set it in the here and now- rather than the far future which is when it should be set. I don't understand it, you are making sci-fi so you have all of the universe to pick from and what do you come up with? 2007 and fucking K-mart. What a total, utter failure of imagination.
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Awesome. Can't stop laughing. That picture just made my day.
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Why the fuck do something so fucking stupid as that?!? Can't these morons take a lesson or two from the first two and get it fucking right? Waist of time and may not even bother on DVD.
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No, I have. I have.
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It grieves me that a very talented artist spent many hours bringing that piece of shit to life.
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I read somewhere that this thing doesn't make it too far into the movie.
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Look at the window blinds. Heh heh
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For example, I was in the supermarket on sunday, deeply hungover, and I wanted to watch something undemanding. The wife talked me in to buying a pile of shite called Half Life with Demi Moore. I knew it was going to be rotten as soon as she picked it up, but I paid for it anyway- watched it and....It was crap. I can't bring myself to get rid of it for some reason,
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Cool, me too!
Anyway agreed, this could have been really good had the the whole AVP Universe not been soiled by Paul WS Anderson and his witless writing!
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Predalien!
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The Lost World, Matrix Reloaded, Phantom Menace, and Attack of the Clones
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My Wife actually brought the DVD of Striptease into our house!!
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i understand that you are grumpy and all, but who wrote this?? there is nobody credited for posting this thread
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I dont enjoy being negative, particularly about movies with remanants of things in them that i used to like. This is just unforgivable, for fucks sake who in the name of sanity created this mess. This kind of lazy gimmick started with Alien 3, "just mess around with the creatures design a bit, thats all the prole's want". I am fucking sick of Fox dodging the issue with each film. Aliens was as good as, if not better than, Alien because it expanded, the story, the setting, the characters and the whole scope of the original. Subsequent sequels have been festering shite because fox do them on the cheap. Yeah the Alien/ Predator homeworld are going to cost to put on screen, but guess what "TOUGH SHIT". You started the ball rolling with all the intruiging "what ifs" of the earlier films, but now you want us to be content with new ways to splatter a humans head or tentacles on the Aliens skull. What started as so original and innovative is now a monster mash-up gimmick. I hope it tanks !
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a new race of bloodthirsty supermonsters who don't pay their phone bills?
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I've seen this dude on Telegraph Ave.
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In fact I'm going to find what I wrote in that other TB and paste it in
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Myers: No, no, no! He was supposed to have attitude.
Silverman: Um... wh-what do you mean, exactly?
Myers: Oh, you know, attitude, attitude! Uh... sunglasses!
Lady: Could we put him in more of a "hip-hop" context?
Krusty: Forget context, he's gotta be a surfer. Give me a nice shmear of surfer.
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On PWSA- a loathsome sub-boll director. I hate to say this, but shopping is actually good- despite having the unholy duo of Jude Law and Sadie Frost in it. Event Horizon is OK, MK is fun in a dopey way, and then there is the absolute sin of Resident Evil. Fucking Amnesia- I mean, what? Amnesia is the tool of the hack writer who cannot come up with a decent plot. It was so avoidable because the premise of the game would actually have worked fine, but noooooo- PWSA knew better. The only redeeming feature of Resident Evil is that it is vastly better than its sequel which is a complete and utter disgrace to celluloid. A stupid PG13 moron fest, populated by imbeciles with 0 charisma, moronic sub-bay action sequences and a soundtrack written by God himself (Satan has the best tunes). A complete soapy tit-wank of a film. I wouldn't watch the third one- even if it had the mighty Warwick Davies in it.
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I wrote it. A coding error made my ID disappear; fixed now.
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Oct 26, 2007 10:32:03 AM CDT
Doesn't look andy dumber than a predator without a mask on. Hone
by mish87
Not that bad.
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Im even ashamed to admit that Paul Anderson was brought up just down the road from me!!
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This is probably one of the worst designs that I have ever seen. It would have been a lot cooler to design him based on the Alien skeleton structure and add the Predator's muscles. Nevermind the fact that they should have ditched the dreads all-together and simply given us a slightly elongated predator with the mandibles and a second mouth. I am sure it will be shot in the movie in a way that won't make the exceeding lame-ness of this obvious, but still. They had a chance to make something truly awesome, and fucked it up. Great job, you non-talented fucks!
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Resident Evil 2>>>>>>>Resident Evil
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Eventually, everything WILL turn to shit. Remember the first time you watched Alien? Great, wasn't it? Now look at this crap. The best thing to do is to just make movies with no sequel-potential at all. It's the only way to ensure a good idea won't get molested somewhere along the line. Sad.
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If thats the case we would have never got ALIENS.
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But I bet that close shot of its mouth, opening, will be tits. Think about it... Starts hissing and drooling... First the Predator jaws open... then the first alien ones... then the second alien ones... and then you're fucked. Okay I got myself turned on, I'm there baby!
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That pic is pretty good..especially considering what the alien/predator hybrid looked like on the first one.
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are you nuts? Seriously, they are both cinematic abortions, just RE is slightly less offensive. Mind you I am talking about the comparing turds in a sewer here, so it doesn't make much difference
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What the hell you have to complain about the "rasta" look? Predator got rasta too but I never heard of anyone complaining about it. For me, it was obvious that the predalien was going to have some kind of "extensions" in the back of his head, or were you expecting just four mandibles?
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...dreadlock Rasta...
fight on arrival,
fighting for survival,
oy yoy ya, oy ya yoy ya,
oy yoy yoy, ya oy ya oy oy...
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isn't this what a Predalien would look like anyway? What else would you actually expect? However, the real idea would be if the predators dredlocks were actually hair or just extentions of their head. I dunno...I'm trying to get myself psyched up for this.
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Would have rather seen it looking more like an Alien with slight Predator influences. This looks more like what you'd get from a transporter accident.
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I'm not sayin they're great films by any stretch of the imagination..but seriously RESIDENT EVIL may be one of the worst films I have ever seen. At least two is entertaining at has some nice action scenes.
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Don't like it, don't watch it... it ain't that serious. It's not a picture of your mom (that I know of). It's just a cheesy fucking rubber suit designed to entertain you for 2 hours. Everything involving AvP, together or separate has been shit since Aliens, and Predator 1. All I'm saying is this looks promising. I don't care if it's not in 3035 or if it's in buttfuck Kansas. I just wanna see mindless violence, cool fight scenes, and something to wash the taste of baboon shit the first AvP left in my mouth. No plants, just an opinion. If it's too much for you, then YOU can fuck off!!!
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I'm sure someone mentioned it before, but I don't have the time to troll through the posts above, but when aliens bust out of humans they don't look half-human/half-alien. Yet when dude busted out of a Predator he's a hybrid? Lame.
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"Mesa Jar Jar alien. Mesa eats your brain me's will!"
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And SCENE!
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we'll have to agree to differ. Cerberoz- Alien 3 is not the abortion it is made out to be, and Predator 2 is OK- so really it is just the last 2 (although I can still find some love for the first 2/3 of resurrection) that stink. I can't believe you honestly think this looks promising *shakes head*
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The original alien design is perfect. A perfect marriage of elegance and menace. Sticking dreadlocks on the back must be like a slap in the face to Geiger, the original artist. Have nothing against the film makers or the artists on the new film, I'm sure it will be a fun ride. But distilling the original films and catering for the action crowd is not the way to go. What is criminally sad is that both Scott and Cameron have previously expressed an interest in revisiting the alien world, so why are we lumbered with lame rehashes every few years. You just cheapen the original movies until they become a joke and people lose interest. Do the story right, spend the money needed to make it perfect, bring back Geiger on board without creative interference. Bring back Winston to realise the creatures on set. Get a design team in the equal of Chris Foss and Moebius. It's not rocket science is it ???
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We differ on the RE series. however I agree with you On Alien 3(which I like), Predator 2(Meh). but ALIEN RESSURECTION is trash. AVP was trash...but I DO think this one will be what AVP should have been the first time around(if it was going to be bad) if it was suppose to be good then I dont know LOL
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Didn't you see Alien 3 with that horribly lame human-alien hybrid? Holy shit that part made me want to put a gun in my mouth.
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...looked way WAY worse than this. It looked like what the shrivelled old bathtub lady from The Shining (Kubrick version, of course)would look like if she was accidentally bathed in gamma rays and then got really mad but didn't change color. At least this thing maintains some of that exoskeletal quality that's so characteristic of the alien (and I like the bits of exposed muscle-tissue). Sure, Giger would have never designed something in such an obvious way, but a lot of people on this talkbalk probably weren't even born when he stopped having any significant involvement in Alien movies, so it's a bit late to be a purist (even the designs for Cameron's aliens -- if you compare them closely -- are fairly removed from the original) . I think seeing it in motion might be what makes it work. I guess we'll see.
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I'll see this movie just for her. *sigh*
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"Heeeeeyyy, You Got Predator On MY Alien!"
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Nobody likes a smart-ass.
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just keepin it real man.
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Its not impressive by any stretch of the imagination, but it doesn't rub me the wrong way. I would have preferred to see a bit more Predator in the face, personally. Mainly the mandibles, but hey---its alright.
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I don't think that is a still photo from the movie. It looks like a pic snapped at the effects company's facility. It will probably look a lot better when it has been properly lit and photographed. And is given some movement.
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Dont know some are bitchin about cause this is pretty much what the hybrid should look like.
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Well, I mean promising as in no Predator love story, no Predators playing the pussy asses in the film, we get to see actual blood in this one, with EVERYONE getting owned, from women to children, the Pred weapons this time don't look like they came from a fucking bat-belt, and if anything I'll at least get my gore fix. Mood, story and atmosphere wise I guess I'll have to wait 'till the movie. But I never expected much from these films to begin with. I love the first Predator, but lets face it, it's just an exercise in special effects, it's not like the whole "get to the chopper" storyline was gonna win any Oscars. Aliens films try to raise the bars with storytelling but Jesus if they don't get pretentious after a while (Resurrection anyone?). All I'm saying is that if the bar is shit, at least this one is elevated to a breathable state.
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Back in the original Alien, when it was in hiding, before we'd seen it fully lit from every possible angle.
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Oct 26, 2007 11:11:30 AM CDT
P.S. Human sacrifice, aliens and predators living together...
by iowa snot client
Mass hysteria!
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This is really an awful design. The trailer (http://www.gamingshogun.com/Default.aspx?a=377) doesn't look all that bad but come on, this design doesn't flow together well at all. It's a big disappointment as a fan of both franchises. Especially after seeing Predaliens done well in the PC game AVP2.
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The damn thing looks like a child molester.
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Oct 26, 2007 11:12:18 AM CDT
In Alien 3 their was no Pred-Dog so why the fuck is there a Pred
by wastedstar
Can anyone explain that to me?
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Boo hoo, "Rape my childhood!" Fuck your childhood, if you don't want to watch it, don't. I'm sick of bitchery. Goddamn.
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damned my retarted typing
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Sorry about the plant thing, my foilage detector is set to Max-sensitivity where this turd is involved.
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I'll take ALIENS over ALIEN 365 days of the year. ALIEN is a good movie though. I guess it depends do you want scares(ALIEN) or Action(ALIENS) or a little of both(ALIEN 3, fuck the haters I liked it)
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When Reiko yells "hold on" and drives out or something like that.... didn't Ripley do that in Aliens when the marines were getting fucked up?> Damnit, be your own character, don't rip SW's.... anyone, anyone?
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I was the same way with Transformers...
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Still hoping for an Alien-only franchise reboot, but I'll be there to see this. Love me some Xenomorphs!
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and I do think it looks dopey, but I can forgive it if the movie is good... Though I think I'd have preferred AvP2 take place in the future on a distant planet w/all out mayhem instead of a small squad of A's and P's on Earth.
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Nice one.
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Alien then Aliens but other than that spot on. and vanchimera- no-one has bitched about childhood raping. This isn't a star wars/ lucash situation. So fuck off.
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...puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again. Yes Precious it will! It will get the hose again!
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Give Alien to Neil Marshall- tell him to set it in the far future, and pretend this shite doesn't exist. Then we'll get a proper Alien film.
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They show the predalien's death in the second trailer. 1:56 you see a Predator stabbing it in the head.
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It doesn't look that bad. I think the lighting and the pose are rather unflattering to be honest, but overall an interesting mixture.
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We need Ang Lee to do a Brokeback Mountain take on Aliens vs Predator. "Your kinda cute for an ugly muthafucka".
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Seriously you like ALIEN Over ALIENS...wow. I mean Sigourney looke better in ALIEN but c'mon, I cant think of anything that puts them in the same league. I'd love to here why you think Aliens is the superior film
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The problem with Alien Vs. Predator (I refuse to call it AVD, just as I don't go that way with ID4 and H2O. You guys fall for the stupidest Hollywood crap) is, just like Jason Vs. Freddy, there was a whole WWF pay per view showdown vibe to the whole thing. Yeah, so it was made to look like it was on a huge stage, but it was corny as hell and made me think of Nature Boy Rick Flair instead of the killing machines they were supposed to be. As long as they stick to that formula, these movies are going to suck.
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Michael Bay
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Hermes Conrad has two movie coming out this winter. Whatever I'll see it, just as long as it doesn't turn into a buddy comedy like AVP did. Remember that scene where the girl and Predetor are running down a hall together in slow mo. I was laughing my ass of at that point.
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I think that comes down to a personal pref. Alien was a fantastic horror movie and Aliens was a fantastic action flick. Like you, I like Alien3, did a disservice to the franchise by killing off Hicks, Newt and Ripley, but a great concept nonetheless. Personally, my favorite is the Aliens: Director's Cut with downfall of Hadley's Hope and the return of the sentry guns from the theatrical release.
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well, no more than most that post here.
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Wonders what an Alien would like after having sex with a duck? I mean spawning out of a duck? Now that could be groovy. :) Af "grr" lac
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Well, at least with this one there actually marketing it more like a horror movie rather than a PPV. So at least that's a step in the right direction. But you're right, I hope they don't pace this one like it's supposed to be all this buildup just for a showdown. Just make them intense survival encounters with no buildup, but, again... I have no expectations.
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comes from- the killing of Hicks, Newt and Ripley. I actually like the fact that Hicks and Newt were killed off screen- I much prefer Ripley being dropped in to a situation that she isn't prepared for and basically having to start from scratch alone.
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Creepshow 2 is playing of AMC...right now there on the raft.
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Did you see the first one? Where a fucking predator falls in love with some chick? I can see raping her and making her his slave, but for fucks sake, that was just ridiculous. The only saving that movie is if they'd have had them make out and hump, then I could have been okay with it since they went balls out. Oh, "He respected her" right? Fuck you and fuck that, the first Predator didn't fucking respect Arnold. The trailer would be fine if these were just some other misc creatures, but not Alien & Predator. What a bunch of horseshit.
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but in hindsight I cant imagine Newt or Hicks fitting in in Alien 3.
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Is there any way we could cross Lassie with Catwoman? heh.
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that shit was terrible.
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I think it's cool. And remember, James Cameron himself really liked AvP.
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Alien 3 is so tonally different from Aliens- much less gung-ho. It does seem to suffer in comparison (but almost everything does), but it really is a totally different film.
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Think BATMAN BEGINS was so great...thats something I need an explanation for.
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Oct 26, 2007 11:38:16 AM CDT
Is it just me, or does Fido look like Bob Dole?
by grammaton cleric binks
Seriously, take a look. All he needs is a pen in a clenched fist.
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His parents would be proud.
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Like every Alien which hatches from a host it takes some of their genetic code of this host to adapt perfectly to the host's environment. That's why there is a smaller, faster Alien born from a dog in Alien 3 and perfectly adapted Aliens, "born" from Humans in the other Movies. If "dreadlocks" (sensory Organs or whatever) are useful in a Predator-Environment, Aliens have them, that's all.
That's not to say that AvP was a good movie (it wasn't at all) or AvP 2 will be (i don't know), but reagrding the Aliens they try to stay true to the "lore". -
That's all that thing is.
- Aliens vs Predator Requiem? Which one was that?
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You're right in what you're saying, but what I want to know is why that thing has a lower jaw.
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weak. will suck (again).
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http://tinyurl.com/2an59o
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gimmick or otherwise.
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Oct 26, 2007 11:46:34 AM CDT
HR Giger and Stan Winston beating the sh1t out of each other
by artyfufkin
Why the bloody hell do studios post these fly blown and steaming publicity pictures? At what stage of post production do they snort down huge gobfuls of coke look up and grin and then say " We should post this rasta Predalien to USA Today?" I'm over it. This is why the black market in DVD's is doing so extremely well.
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I just want to see what happens if it fucks a duck. Also ones has to wonder, if an Alien humps Optimus Primes leg, would the new Alien have flames?
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when the Alien is human hatched it doesn't have human features. So why does this thing have predator features?
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a masterpiece 15 years on.
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Ron Peralman's crew was pretty cool, and I love the scene where they are being confronted by The Company and the all whipped out their hidden guns, after that though the movie went to crapadn I love Predator 2, I love the feel an dlook of it, I love the cast, but we can blame all the AVP stuff directly on that movie when they the production designers thought they'd be cute and put in the Ailen skelton as a throwaway shot when Danny Glover is walking through the Predator 's ship
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And disproving your own point in the process. The dog-hatched Alien in A3 was not a hybrid. It was an Alien that took on the slightest hint of a characteristic from its host. This, however, very much IS a hybrid. And that's exactly the problem. If Alien3 had followed this design style, the Alien would have wagged its furry tail, had a lollopy tongue, a little wet nose and furry Rottweiler ears. It would be half dog, half alien. But it wasn't. This is half Alien, half Predator. It is a hybrid.
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coffee thermos into a bazooka or something like that. It's been ages so I don't recall. They guy in the wheelchair had a lot of hidden hardware, I remember that. Lone Wolf and Cub would be proud.
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huhuhuhuh, er
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The other pictures in USA Today looked better than this one and I think in action it won't even matter.
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since I've seen Alien Rez so I can't say for sure, but yeah it was something like that, but yeah the wheelchair dude had a bunch of stuff and the black guy whipped out his guns from his sleeves or behind his backit retrospect thinking aobut it, it seems like they had this cool concept of the space pirates or whatever and then to make it into an Alien's film added Winona and Ripley and the ailens
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I think the design works when you think of the fact that it is supposed to mix the two races...Looks like two parts Alien one part Predator, which is fine by me, I think my biggest gripe is that the image is completely NOT intimidating, scary or moody. It looks like he was standing in the hallway of the breakroom while taking a break from filming or something...I have no expectations for this movie so it really doen't matter to me anyway.
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Oct 26, 2007 12:02:33 PM CDT
Bloo, it reminds me of a line from Trek, TNG,
by grammaton cleric binks
Worf is talking to Picard about how he needs to search the Klingon prisoner because they're required to have no less than (some crazy number like 11) weapons on them at all times. Picard asks Worf is he has 11, he replies "Of course not sir." Picard walks away then pauses, umm how many do you have - 19 (or some sick number like that. My re-telling does not do it jutice
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Oct 26, 2007 12:04:53 PM CDT
HOW THE FUCK CAN THE ALIEN BE MIX??? MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE!
by billybobhoyle
He didn't have sex with the Predator, the Alien was just incubating in him. I mean, the face huggers planted the alien in the Predator right? I mean when Aliens were popping out of humans, they weren't mix. HORRENDOUS! I guess Rob Lowe in THANK YOU FOR SMOKING was right. One line can fix everything. "oh huh, the predators had the dominate gene, humans were inferior." Good job mr. Screen Writer.
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Doesn't matter what it looks like. If it bleeds, we can kill it.
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GET TO DA CHOPPAH!
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Fido was soooo good i fell asleep during it. Naw i started watching it at like 2 last night so I don't really know.
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Fido was soooo good i fell asleep during it. Naw i started watching it at like 2 last night so I don't really know. But i love how they bought advertizing space on this site, and then put a quote from this site as one of the reviews.
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I'm imagining an alien, holding a shotgun on the back of his predator son-in-law
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sorry, but I can't support this.
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sorry, but I can't support this.
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word
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I thought this was common knowledge...
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Looks dumb, yes. But it looks pretty good for such a dumb idea to begin with. I could imagine worse designs. And I'm sure Paul W.S. Anderson could have too. What I'll never forgive is the present day timeline. This should take place in the future, not the fucking present.
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who has dreads smokes weed ya'know...
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in Alien Resurrection. That looked like the aftermath of a muppet that fucked a mound of PlayDoh.
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right? :)
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The 1979 ALIEN had a translucent cowl, through which you could clearly see the human skull that made up the front of its face.
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but this doesn't look THAT bad. If you have a problem with it you should've been a hard time with the Stan Winston concept for Predator to begin with? And if you come up with silly names to prove a point, maybe you just watched too many shitty TV skits as a kid.
Of course Winston and Giger styles don't match. It was a weird idea to mix the two, but this flick can't possibly be worth than the first, and this picture isn't the worth blend of Alien and Predator that could've been. -
Need to stop making lame ass movies with characters that we love. Oh? You need to fucking bad ass fantastical creatures to fight and make a movie out of? How about you use a Minotaur and a Unicorn, or a Basilisk and a Griffin or something?
Don't tell me you wouldn't go see a movie in which a herd of Unicorns fucks up an army of minotaurs. EVERYONE would go to that. -
my witty line was ruined by your [metaphorical] cock-blockery!
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But RE3 any good? I would like to hear from someone that thought RE 1 was better then 2 so I know you are not retarded. I've thought about catching RE3 for awhile Russell knows how to make a fucking big mess and they are usually fun.
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did you really expect anything else??
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this is a photo of him.
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Xenomorphs(or Aliens) take the form of whatever they incubate in such as the dog like Aliens from Alien 3 and the why Aliens who incubate in humans stand on two legs.
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the body isn't baaaad...but i saw concept sketches that were way better. the dreadlocks bring it down for me. while i know the predator's dreadlocks are not HAIR, really, are they so important of a growth that they would be duplicated genetically by an alien, which, whether animal or human bred, has always had the elongated head? if the dreadlocks were all held together into the elongated shape, and could flex apart or contract back into that shape, would make more sense, if any could be made............i also hate the present timeline. kind of undoes the importance of weyland yutani's endeavors in the future.....after all, shouldn't they just send a sub down to collect the queen from AVP?
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"should've had" and "worst than the first"^^
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http://tinyurl.com/2n8ega
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There's like nothing wrong with it. It's a Pred-Alien.
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C'mon. That were some nice interestellar fucking in Species. Not lesbian enough for my taste, but back then Henstridge was all sorts of hot.
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I hated Resident Evil 1. Didn't watch the second. Then some guys dragged me along to watch RE:3 and it was actually ok, although not ok enough to be recommended. I'd say it was decent enough not to make me cringe, and it had some good jump moments (although jump moments are like the lowest form of movie scare)
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Could you have picked a worse shot from USA Today to use for this?? I just went over to Joblo.com and they have a movie still up with Predator fighting this motherfucker and it actually looks pretty cool. Everyone should go check it out.
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... behind the barrier separating the good and evil sides from the Lame Side of Imaginationland!
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I've seen a movie hated soo much on this site then AVP. I think Halloween was close, but they've missed the mark sooo many times before we were expecting the worse. Alien 1 and 2 being Classic, and 3 and 4 were good mainly because the Directors were competent and were probably woo worried with style over substance. I dug both got my quadrilogy stuck between my 100's of other DVDS i'll end up never watching before I Die, given up on buying movies. Except for a few and even then I haven't watched them (aka The Butchor Boy finally on DVD). But with AVP we were soooo amped to have an awesome fucking movie, I mean the game and comic books were good. And it probably the best francize blending ever the seemed right (next to Peanut Butter and Chocolate). But then we got notice of Paul W.S. Anderson helming the movie and like a shot heard round the world by all geeks our hearts were broken. Because we all knew that this would turn out midicore at best. And it did, it was way weak and could have been so much fucking more. Now there is little hope for this movie. Maybe fox saw the back lash of the director and went with unheard of's? All I know is that if there is this much pain about the fucking Alien/Predetor (we all fucking knew it would have dredlocks) then I can't wait to hear the complaing about the movie. Which right now looks almost direct to DVD. AVP has to be one of the biggest let downs in movie history. At least Freddy Vs. Jason was half decent and did not really stray from the formula of a Freddy movie. But Freddy, Jason, Micheal Meyers all started off at B-movies that tured into classics. Alien and Predetor started off as action/thriller/monster movie classics, and to see be given into the hands of the original Uwe Boll just hurt. That being said, I may be wrong on this but people say that the aliens do not take on human forms when they burst through the chest, but we have never really seen a pure alien. Unless its a face hugger? You could say that the alien from the first movie was pure but we never found out? Does any one know?
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Its not really an argument. Resident Evil 2 >>>>>> Resident Evil.
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Am I the only one who stops watching Alien Resurection once it gets to the birth. I love the movie until then.
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Where are AICN's German affiliates? According to IMDB Postal was released over a week ago in Deutschland? I wanna know if I should get in line now!
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I fucking hate what fox has done to these films.
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Totally agree with... onaps6453
They mess with it and totally killed it. The creator of the origioanl alien was upset at what cameron did, but realized it was building the character. But when Alien 3 came out he absolutly hated it. And quite honestly AVP..the last 2 minutes killed the movie for me. -
the genetic mixing introduced by alien 3 is what brought down everything....saying that the alien gains attributes from the host just makes you question then- how much of an alien is really an 'alien'? The human like mouth and upright stance? well, humans don't have inner mouths, neither do dogs. Is every laid egg a fresh starting point for alien development, or is every queen that is produced from a host already tainted by what that host was?......On the other hand, slight genetic changes would help an alien born in a new environment survive better in an environment. If it had a similar mouth/means of consumption to the host, then it would stand a better chance of survival on that planet/environment. But the picking and choosing of what stays and what doesn't when an alien evolves from a certain host is dangerous business....it then means that every alien born from a host is never going to be the pure form of the alien....and that would mean that every generation would be more tainted from the pure form.
The different head style of the Aliens(2nd film) could be attributed to a different family of queen, or being nested in a nuclear reactor........but everything else ever since...the ugly puppy alien from 'resurrection', the dog alien, the ripley clone, and now this....all of the downfall of the series hinges on the genetics concept. -
great scene
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I know it isn't -- I'm just saying it looks like one -- and that ain't good.
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I put the game AVP2 up there just behind Alien, Aliens, Predator and Predator2. Excellent movies and an excellent game. If you haven't played it... damn... fuck Halo and Half Life... the best FPS was and still is AVP2. If they'd just followed that fucking game with the AVP movie it would have kicked serious ass. I still remember how fucking nerve wracking the first level in the game is. You are making your way in the dark on an alien world with only your fucking radar to guide you, huge fucking military knife in hand. Fuck. I gotta play that game again. It is THE 80s action movie experience turned into a game. And of course, you get to play as all three species. Bad fucking ass game.
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You sure about that? I've seen the movie many many times and I don't recall ever seeing a human skull. You're right that its skin is translucent but where you can "clearly see the human skull"? I beg to differ. And if an alien can temporarily survive a vacuum and near absolute zero temperature of space (end of Alien and the queen in Aliens writhing as she floated off) then I doubt seriously that the alien would inherit any characteristics of its host for survival reasons. Hence, a "perfect organism, its survivability is matched only by its hostility". Let's not use conjecture to justify a purely stupid idea here folks.
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Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel..they're through to the floor now!
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Please see my post above. It pretty much breaks your argument in half.
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The coconut or melon for a head in the first Alien?
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THAT is the "Predalien"??? Well, at least the stupid-ass name matches its stupid fucking face.
This could be the gayest thing I've ever seen. "Predalien"...what the fuck...what fifth grader came up with that name? You know what, I hope I'm attacked by this punk-ass creature someday just so I can bitch-slap it and send it back to planet Retardo. -
an Alien and a Predator on their own.
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I swear you see this Hybrid get killed in the red band trailer, it's a quick shot mixed into a montage. I love both of these monsters, but did ANY of the writers from "AvP" or this film actually SEE any of the original films? How can Aliens be running around in North America when in the future, Ripley comes off as insane trying to explain the very existence of these creatures? In the beginning of "Aliens" when Ripley is explaining what happened to her crew and the Nostromo why didn't someone say "Oh wait, Texas had the same problem, I know what you're saying Ripley." FUCKING STUPID.
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they should have just kept with 'the alien is what it is' and left all else alone....it does not mix genes, it was not created by the predators,(although they and humans can try to contain and exploit them, it will always end in disaster)it is ancient, evolved, and the ultimate survivor.....but really, let's face it, if it was perfect it would be an energy being that reproduced by budding (ha ha)instead of like a 3 step breeding process dependant on other creatures. it's a super parasite, really.
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Oct 26, 2007 12:56:33 PM CDT
They went about this in exactly the wrong way, and here's why:
by kevred
Before AVP, both "series" had ended in B-movie land. (Really, who on earth cares about any Alien film after part 2?) AVP was yet another B-movie, but after both series being dormant for so long, it got the concept back in the mainstream consciousness, to a degree, and made some money.So, what to do then? It was the perfect springboard to launch both of these franchises back out into separate realms, and to do a proper big-name sequel to each one again, separately, with good actors and legitimate stories. Really, how hard could it have been to green-light two separate, big-time movies, and possibly have two newly-successful franchises again? If 'Saw' can still be going, don't tell me that these couldn't be.Instead, we get another dumb combo movie, which diminshes both parties by mashing them together. Enough of this and it'll get to be like Abbott & Costello--oh, what are those two crazy alien races up to this time? Expect "Alien & Predator's Christmas Vacation" in a couple years.So I don't get it. Apart from the 'respecting the material' thing, which the viper pit of bastards known as Hollywood never gets, I don't see why they passed up two successful movies for one that's likely mediocre and will only be humbly successful.
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Yeah, the original alien design had the structure of an elongated human skull underneath it's clear dome head.
http://images.google.com.pr/imgres?imgurl=http://aap.blackaris2001.org/SIDESHOW/AlienHeadPropReplicaS.jpg&imgrefurl=http://aap.blackaris2001.org/AlienHead/AH.html&h=250&w=257&sz=20&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=Gb7U4sGbgzuM_M:&tbnh=109&tbnw=112&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dalien%2Bhead,%2B1979%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
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It should be more monsterous and ferocious, not a weedy version of both. why is it so skinny! its not nearly a treatening as its originals, it needed more Giger type inspiration.
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http://aap.blackaris2001.org/AlienHead/AH.html
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Not enough fiber, I guess.
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my final beef with the series was ripley. they should have let her die in 3, tragic,martyred,a perfect trilogy with a shaky final chapter.....then they had to clone her.Suddenly the series was RIPLEY instead of ALIEN, and the alien became weak and malleable (both in theory, and as the big pink puppy baby!) While the dog/alien was iffy, it was fogivable. after all, it was not a HUMANOID host...But 3 did not kill alien like resurrection did.
And predator 2 didn't kill predator by any means, it was just a forgotten franchise.....i remember seeing the alien skull in the trophy rack in predator 2 in the theaters and thinking HOLY SHIT can they DO THAT? that subtle touch should have launched a wonderful series, instead we get this shit. -
and zombot, i thought you wrote "my anal beef with.."
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anal beef.
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Whatever the director does, if the film makes money, they WILL find a way. I remember back when "Alien Resurrection" was announced, we joked around with friends if it would be: a) Ripley wakes up screaming, sighs, says to Newt "Thank heavens it was just a bad dream!"; b) with a superhuman effort, Ripley emerges from the molten steel, badly burned... c) Ripley's clone appears; d) we are introduced to the Prequelian Adventures of Little Ripley - and the Hollywhacks actually did choose one of the options. No film is safe unless it flops. And even then it's not safe if it just develops enough following and website.
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The dreads are a bit much. But the rest of the design I dig. But I don't get why it's standing in a room brightly lit. I don't get the draw of horror films now to show everything in bright light. Even if it's suppose to be a dark scene, it's bright has hell. It's as if the only reason these young filmmakers thought that the older horror films had any style or atmosphere was to cover up shitty special FX of the day. I would hope that's not true.
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I don't understand why this is a problem, Merrick. If you think it looks like a goofy rasta alien, then you should think that of basic desing of all the Predators.
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yes the old alien had a skull inside it's dome. it wasn't really visible in the movie except maybe one shot...but here's this: if they are truely going with the gene mixing junk, then shouldn't the skull visible in this predalien (look close, and you can see it)have it's eye sockets were the predator's would be (low,small, closer to the mouth) than the large, high, humanoid sockets you can make out in this pic? maybe i'm just nitpicking now...but they are beating my childhood monsters to death.
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I thought the alien creature came from the Queen via her eggs which produces the face huggers which then lays the alien embryo in the host body. My point is there isn't actually any kind of DNA hybrid biology going on.
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Aliens usually work best if you dont get to see them as clearly as that shot. The first Alien (from "Alien") wass the spookiest and that was all practical effects and looked really goofy when not in the movie (see some of the extra material). So i still have hopes that the Predalien will work in the movie (i hope...)
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Remember in the first Alien, yea, you barely saw it. Lead to way more suspense.
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stalin vs predator would be a cool movie.
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this line makes me :)
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The first comic series was very entertaining - it had a good story and great artwork. After that one...not so much. I've seen several alien/predator hybrids in subsequent incarnations of the comic and I think that while they may look good on the page in reality - yeah, those head tentacle things look goofy.
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I believe that the type of Alien produced from the face-hugger egg will "steal" some of the dna from the crreature. Renember Alien 3 (sorry, but try), the reason it is a four legged "dog-like" alien is because the face-hugger attacked a dog (or a cow in the extended edition). So the Aliens we know from the films look that way because they where all produced from humans.
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imagine a rasta alien kicking dustin in the crackers, coz he ate ice cream
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Hannibal back to back, you'll notice that they are very similar movies. Not in idea obviously but in tone and pace. Like the scary parts almost happen at the same times in both movies.
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In order to get an alien/predator hybrid...wouldn't they need to have sex? I'm sure someone already pointed this out, but there's no reason that this alien should look the way that it does. It should just look like an alien.
Ohhhh, maybe the Predator that this alien came out of was pregnant with a Predator child, and the face-hugger's semen impregnated the Predator child while still inside the body of the parent Predator, and so this is actually the child of a face-hugger and a Predator baby...
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that's the debate. If an alien takes some genes from its host...does the change end with that creature? because some tellings say that a lone alien can either turn into a queen over time given enough food/victims...or that a lone alien will start cocooning bodies into new eggs. that was feature only in the director's cut of ALIEN, but some comics still use it. It could make sense though, at the very least a lone warrior alien may cocoon people out of instinct of service to a breeding queen, or as a means to keep victims 'fresh' when food was abundant but not immediately needed. But as we saw in alien 3, a queen can also be BORN, most likely in an environment where the hibernating chestburster can maybe sense that the surroundings have no other alien, and a queen is required to breed the species. The ALIEN on the nostromo was born from a mass-stored egg,laid in normal environment, and therefore predetermined to be a warrior. But ripley's chestburster was a queen, laid and (programmed to be a queen?) at some time during the end of ALIENS when the breed or queen was feeling threatened, no doubt.
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why am I still on this Talkback?just kidding my actual question is, was there any refrences at all to either Predator movie in AvP? And if the tech that the LA cops were using in Pred 2 were pretty advanced, why is the tech in AvP (and by extenstion AVP:R) regular. There is no continuity, like Anderson cares
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But what do they have left to drag out on the stage and prance around while screaming "Are you not entertained?!?!?"
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that.
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Forgive this ugly mother fucker. He doesn't know what he's doing.
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damn, will look for that on youtube.
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The "hair" is just stupid, here's why: When aliens spawned from humans and dogs, did they have hair/fur? No. So why should an alien spawned from a predator have hair/hairlike features? It shouldn't. It's stupid. But I do like the mouth.
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he uses it to light his gangi sticks, mon.
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AVPINO AVPINO AVPINO!!!!!Did I just come up with that?
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Better yet how about and Alien having sex with a crab? That would be cool with an Alien head a little pincher's chasing after people. Aliens (2nd) had lots of people hosting the critters and they all looked the same, doesn't make sense.
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My guess is, in Predator 2, the Predator was being tracked by a government organization. Thus, they were prepared and knew it could turn invisible by "bending light," etc. But in AvP, it's a private company going after a heat source where a mysterious pyramid exists. They didn't know they'd find either Aliens or Predators, and likely didn't have access to the gov's data on the predator anyway, even if they had a reason to think they'd find one, which they didnt. In a way, by having Bishop be the company exec, it sort of set up the future of the Alien saga--Weyland industries, the "company," and the Bishop android(s). But then that guy gets killed, so it doesn't make a lot of sense. And since the chick was the only survivor, it's unlikely she would have done anything to exploit the pyramid or aliens on behalf of Weyland.
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Any one think i need to see a doctor?
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Didn't that DNA mixing all start with the dog-alien in 3? Wasn't that from an egg from the queen in 2? Or does the whole issue really stem from rationalizing the giant skeleton of the space jockey in 1 - which apparently had a giant chest burster (and therefore a giant face-hugger, too?). You give fans enough time, enough friends, and enough beer, and they'll nitpick this shit to death.
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Er guys, the human skull was only used in making the heads, it was used for scale, the alien isn't supposed to have a human skull in its head. Watch the Alien docs on the quadology set.
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It seems the only people who can design good Aliens are Giger and Cameron. That PredAlien looks like they sawed an Alien head in half and stuck dreadlocks on the back. Hopefully they'll keep it in shadow so we can't see how naff it looks.
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MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT!
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Alien Res. Script and there was a scene where Riply pretty much has sex with an Alien or something. The orginal script for the movie was awesome.
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i watched lazytown yesterday and today, that guy with the chin is stylish.
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...no one at the studios have thought about combining all the 80's movie icons and created one massive POS calle: "Alien vs. Predator vs. Freddy vs. Jason" with special guest star - Michael Myers. We should thank our lucky stars this gem of an idea is not being tinkered with - yet...
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Look at an Alien. Look at a Predator. A hybrid was goona look goofy no matter what.
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Now that's just dumb.
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that explains some, the whole movie still pisses me off on so many levels though it's not funny
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WATCH AND LISTEN.
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bored
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First of all, yes, people, AvP really was THAT bad. Second, why do we need a predalien? AvP is supposed to play on their differences, not throw in a gimmicky blending of two franchises that will just be what I'm guessing is a dumbed down predator or smarted up alien. Lastly, why is the child inside of me asking me to kill it?
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...more Predator than Alien, but overall it's cool. I'm still really hoping this movie works out... both of these franchises need a shot in the arm.
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Looks acceptable, but just not very interesting. An alien with dreadlocks is all I see. No big whoop.
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I rather enjoyed the movie. It was no Citizen Kane, but it didn't seem overly flawed to me. Apart from no human blood/rending limb from limb stuff.
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There is an alien skull when the cop is walking around inside the predator ship
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......*sigh*.....and I was actually starting to warm up to this movie....Where's the whimpering Newborn when you need it? If this fuckin thing starts dancing to a "Hello My Baby" number from Spaceballs...I'm going on a witchhunt for everyone invloved in thr making of this movie.
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That would be hot.
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its going to kick gays?
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on a train.
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Get Neil Marshall on an AvP film.
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thanks for fixing that. some of the bitching from writers around here is tougher for me to stomach than others. I am glad it was you who was upset rather than someone else who is always moody.
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I'll give it a go: 1) The acting sucked 2) but you can only do so much with a crappy script 3) There was no characterization and no emotional attachment 4) So when the characters died I was actually happy 5) and when the lead actress survived, I was disappointed 6) all the lack of characterization led to a major lack of tension that left me 100% bored 7) which really sucks because you have two of the coolest, geekiest SF movie monsters duking it out 8) in a PG-13 rated movie 9) which, as you pointed out,led to no human blood/limb-rending 10) although even that wouldn't have helped it because it felt about as generic and recycled as I Never Did Forget What You Did The Summer Before Last
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well this certainly is a disgrace to both aliens and predators, I was excited for this movie I thought that a new team might make up for the last avp failure but I am devistated to learn that they're using this alien vs predator mix. As I read some realize that the traits that an alien takes from its host r just minor ones that r not more than skin deep, but to make a full size alien and predator mix is an incredible insult to fans and filmmakers. Im not sure if anyone touched upon this because this TB was way to long for me to read the whole thing but the real problem with both avp films (aside from AVP 1 being the worst piece of god awful shit ever made) is that they take place on earth. Im I the only one that realizes that the whole point in every alien film is that if the alien ever got back to earth it would result in the end of the world? I mean the whole point is that the alien cant be controlled. after seeing the new requiem trailer I was willing to let this go and appreciate the fact that they're making an attempt to give both creatures their balls back and to make a bloody and serious event that might do the 2 franchises justice. But now that I know that these 2 fucking douchbag directors dont know a fucking thing about aliens or predators nor do they care. I am thoroughly dissapointed with this news and no longer looking foward to this movie, thanks you fuckin assholes
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thanks to the assholes who made this movie for fucking it up. Im not cursing those who brought me this news I actually really appreciate the heads up on this travesty
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Aliens>Predator>Alien>Predator2>AVP>Alien 3>Alien 4
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Oct 26, 2007 3:31:56 PM CDT
Alien vs. Predator vs. Batman vs. Terminator vs. Robocop vs. Fre
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vs. Jason vs. Ash vs. Leatherface vs. Indiana Jones vs. Mad Max vs. Darth Vader vs. Jackie Chan vs. Jet Li vs. Chuck Norris vs. Van Damme vs. Killer Clowns from Outer space vs. Earth vs. Soup: Sonata
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someone is killing the bitchfest tbers, is it harry, don murphy or the crushing realization they are wasting there lives, resulting in synchronized death, dealt out by the universe?
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So we're to believe the best idea anyone could come up with for this movie is that predators built pyramids on the Earth to breed aliens for training exercises. After having to swallow that giant shit sandwich, I pretty much couldn't keep anything else down.
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Maaaannnn!
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Just kidding. April Fool!
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What sucked was the predator designs in AVP. The mandibles looked like floppity plastic shits. They didn't look as good as hey did 20 years prior. How can that be? Also, isn't this what we should have expected from the first movie? When I went to see AVP, I was like "Sweet, we'll get to see a predator/alien" and they just hint at it in the end. It would be like seeing a movie called "Jogging Man" and the lost shot is him putting on jogging shoes.
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Why not? The pyramids don't have to be Egyptian, could be waaay before Eygpt, but the pyramids humans came up with later was from ancestral memory of these alien pyramids. Predators live to hunt. Why would they not make training grounds for their young? Aliens would be the ultimate prey, humans the best vessels for breeding them. Built them on earth because that is where the human supply was indiginous. What else have we seen that Predators do beside hunt and kill things? They would freaking love a set up like that.
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After I saw the full body shot of the thing it's really not so bad. I dig the tail and it looks massive. Might be worthwhile once we see it in motion.
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1. it takes place on earth (see my last post) 2. 2 predators were killed before one alien. (these were the most bitch ass predators ever conceived, a real hunter wouldnt go out like that) 3. the predator teams up with a human at the end (this is the dumbest idea ever, humans are like cattle to the predators, in predator one he finds the most elite humans to hunt for a challenge) 4. the worst looking predator face that could ever have been made (whoever made this face should be fired from whatever shitty company they work for, I mean not everyone can be stan winston but make an effort to find someone cappable) 5. a fully CG queen alien (this looked absolutely terrible and of course the hacks working today will never realize that CG is a tool to bring impossible things to the screen, not just a simple way out for a complicated sequence 6. absolutely horrible casting, acting, story development, character development, and death scenes (this was the most non involving movie ever, how am I supposed to believe anything thats going on when Im watching these paper thin characters played by terrible actors, plus the lead heroine was flat as hell nothing interesting at all) I can go on and on but im tired of typing
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...it's nowhere near as bad as everyone's making it out to be. It's just a little obvious and uninspired. Still, that's pretty much what a mix between a Predator and an Alien should look like. Hopefully it's a total badass and the nastiness carries the look further, but with the trailer showing you how it gets killed I don't think that's gonna be the case.
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If you guys want to see a seriously violent, balls out gunfight that doesn't seem to stop, check out The Kingdom. That gun battle alone was better than AvP.
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That I'd like to see.
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the aliens were supposed to be trapped in this antartic prison r what ever stupid reason u can come up with THE ALIENS CANNOT BE CONTAINED NOTHING CAN HOLD THEM these movies should have taken place in space possible in the future
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with NO FUCKING HUMANS AROUND. I don't wanna see humans, I wanna see Aliens, Predators and their alien pets and livestock.
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wtf, they will continue to ruin this franchise for us comic and novel fans
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1. Earth seems likely as that's where humans live. No continuity problems as everythign was destroyed/covered up.
2. These were immature predators probably the equivilent of young teen-aged humans, and aliens will kill you quick if you aren't ready for them.
3. The team up was because the predator saw his whole team get killed and then this one human manages to kill an alien, so she won some respect (we have seen this attitude from predators in the other movies)
4. I don't remember what the face looked like, seemed good enough to me, pretend he was an ugly predator if that makes you feel better
5. Probably the only way they could have done it given the budget. In the theater it looked good to me, maybe the dvd showed the problems
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its the shittiest, lamest gimmick ever thought up. they felt they had to mix it up because they thought that both franchises were tired because they're the most uncreative hacks that cant think of ideas to further the mythology even when they're presented the golden opportunity to make something new and exciting. this is like when they made the dinosaurs in jurassik park 3 part mutant (didnt even see the movie i knew it would blow) but this is the same kind of lame idea that the studio heads resort to because they dont know shit anyone who thinks that a hybrid is a good idea is an idiot
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the aliens were supposed to be trapped in this antartic prison r what ever stupid reason u can come up with THE ALIENS CANNOT BE CONTAINED NOTHING CAN HOLD THEM these movies should have taken place in space possible in the future
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This is an area that needs to be explored in the movies.
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I thought we got a full-on 3D CGI shot of Angelina's all-you-can-eat-tuna-salad-sandwich-wagon. She's talking about banging the guy so she can have herself a pup. It just can't be PG-13.
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The advanced tech of the Predators was what contained the Aliens, nothing that humans did or built. Everything was in Cryo-statis (frozen) waiting to be thawed and hunted. Predators are flying in spaceships with artificial gravity fields and have plasma weapons. Why is it hard to believe they couldn't just relegate Aliens as being nothing more worrisome than for training? In aliens, the marines didn't know what they were facing and were outnumbered, but still managed to kill an ass-load of aliens.
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The characters were terrible. Put them against *any* other characters, leading and supporting, in either franchise. And the story sucked. You can't get away from that. The new one might be okay but the pic is lame. I would certainly be okay with one of them set on a futuristic earth -- ala the dead William Gibson script or something along those lines...
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But since it will be in the movie. I must say I really like the design. looks cool, I don't really know what you all would expect.
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well maybe not 10 but a close fascimileThe predators hunted in packs and were protrayed as less vicious and yet Paul WS Anderson said that they were "older" then the previous ones we saw, yet it doesn't kill a 90lb soaking wet woman, but a younger one could conciveably take out Ah-nold, Jesse Ventura, and Carl Withers, also Danny Glover and Bill Paxton (btw since these 2 universes are realted now, does that mean Bill Paxton's police officer from P2 could be the great blah blah blah grandfather of his marine char. from Aliens?), the got rid of the flying disc for a stupid nija star thingy, the aformentioned lack of blood and limb ripping, the aformentioned atempt at making the female char. more Riply like--Side note: Is Anderson into S&M or is a cross dresser or a woman or something, his movies espically his last ones have all featured strong woman and weak men--end side note--the charterzations sucked, they were all stock char. with no emotional attachemnt, the confined prymird, the other Predators featured more of an open enviroment, the jungle or LA, only the First Alien movie really had a closed atmosphere, Aliens of course was the most open with the whole moon to get through to get to the ship, the love/respect thing the Predator had for the girl, the lack of blood and limb riping, I know I mentioned it before but it pissed me off enough I had to mention it again.
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The fact that you've got to do this much explaining ain't a good thing. You're putting some lipstick on a pile of horse shit and saying we should kiss it and make up.
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I totally agree there were no memorable actors, other than Lance Henrickson (sp?) in the movie. They were absolutely as good as the supporting characters of Alien 3 or Alien 4 and most of Predator 2. The story was reasonable enough to explain why Aliens and Predators would be fighting each other and you need humans in it so the audience will be interested. 2 hours of alien fighting and not a human in sight would be a bit boring to most people. If they had set it in the future, then marines would make the predators/aliens not as formidable and "scarey".
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It's just that I'm trying to get why there is all the hate vibe going for this movie. Maybe my expectations were low when I saw it and it beat them. Most people here say they hated it and it was a steaming pile, and I just don't see why. I'm trying to explain why I thought it was a pretty good movie, and was wanting some feedback as to what absolutely broke it for you (talkbackers).
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It doesn't look nearly as bad as the baby alien at the end of Resurrection. That milky white piece of shit.
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being the movie, not your valiant defense of the unworthy whore of a movie known as AvP.
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I'll admit, when I first laid eyes on this, I laughed my ass off. Then, the realization hit me that we'll never again see a decent Alien film, let alone ever seeing a competent AvP film. No thanks. I'm not wasting a dime on this crap.
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Brah! Me got to go conkee!
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I suppose I never heard that these aliens were older than the ones from the first movies. In my mind, these preds were trying to get out of boyhood, kinda the whole reason for the pyramid, as it was a test. Also the humans fucked them because they started the test early and the predators didn't get the weapons they were expecting. I can't speak to characters, this is a monster movie so I'm just not expecting superlative acting. Did you really want an interesting backstory for the hero, they could have spent a good 15-20 minutes on fleshing out characters, but be honest did you want to see that? Aliens was confined as well, remember they couldn't really go outside so they were stuck in the hallways and rooms of the buildings, and later the spaceship hanger. Plus, the predators couldn't really let the aliens roam wild, they would have to contain them for the tests.
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If you don't want to movie spoiled, don't look at pic 5.
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Of why abortion should be legal and interspecies mating should be kept illegal.
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isn't it just a hairstyle? i mean, i could be wrong, the dreads could be an organic part of the predator (did they ever bleed or anything from the dreads) but if it's just hair - well, that's ridiculous...
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Has lotsa pictures, which look OK, and plenty of editorial which re-inforces both the 'hard R' aspect of the production, and the reliance on physical effects from Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff over CGI. The premise sounds lame (something like: Predator spaceship carrying Alien eggs destined for the Predator homeworld for training purposes crashes in present-day Hicksville, USA) and it's not clear as yet how this links to the existing movies (does it carry on directly from AvP? - I only watched that once, and mostly through a red mist of disappointment - or from PREDATOR 2? or should I not be asking such impertinent questions?). Ah well, let's hope for a movie that delivers at least on thrills and spills, and maybe on coherent story and continuity...
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Here's my list: 1) It wasn't in space (this is forgivable only with a good story). 2) It had the universe's most uneccessary and LAME backstories EVER with the old Predator empire in Antarctica, ridiculous pyramid 3) Way too many nitpicks to count. I'm all for letting go of a few minor nitpicks, but Jee-sus 4) Really underwritten, lame characters I didn't give a shit about 5) Nothing big was at stake in the plot, unless you count the lives of the characters, which I don't
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Finally!
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Is that Cameron quit working on the Alien 5 script when he heard about AvP. That's a pretty big fucking cock block if yer asking me.
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nuff said
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I don't remember anything from AvP except the final shot, it was totally forgettable.
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If they called it Alien Vs. Predator Vs. Peoplez then it's fine, but who wants people in a fucking Alien Vs. Predator movie? Why can't we just have Aliens and Predators with subtitles?
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1. Neither predator movie was in space, Aliens was just barely in space.
2. I suppose I can't argue with Lame as an explanation, we can just agree to disagree.
3. Can't understand your nitpicks as you didn't list them, but there were enough there to overcome my suspension of disbelief.
4. I was kind of rooting for the Predator that lived. With no big stars in the movie, I didn't care much about the humans as well, but that doesn't bother me.
5. I don't remember anything being at stake in the other movies other than the lives of the characters, unless you count the possible predator 2 bomb going off in the city. Of course, if the alien queen got loose and ran amok on the earth making zillions of aliens, then that would be a little unpleasant. -
Do any of you think there's a real life Island of Dr. Moreau out there in some secret location? Maybe Canada or Mexico?
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You are kidding, right? Think that through for a minute. 2hrs of subtitled slobbering and roaring?
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Maybe you're right, but at least have some alien species involved, like the Klingons. Just sick of seeing humans onscreen, so played out.
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Aliens win cuz Jedi are fucking stupid and incompetent.
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How dare anyone speak heresy against it!
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The trouble is, the general american audience wouldn't go for a movie with just aliens in it. The humans are what puts the normal in the setting, gives you something to contrast with the aliens. They lose some of their wow factor without anything the audience can compare them with. Even futuristic badass marines would diminish the perceived power of the creatures unless the creatures were killing them in droves, ala Aliens. (though the marines killed their fair share I think)
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1. I don't have problems with predator not being in space (and by "space", I guess "another planet" is included, as to Aliens). It just would make things a hell of a lot more interesting (see AvP2 The Game), and having it in a future setting is a wish able to be overcome with a good story like I said. AvP didn't deliver it in spades. 2) Face it. Rewriting history to the degree Paul did was lame and unnecessary, and suspension of disbelief dropped to zero, probably negative, at this point. This means that something else would have to have significantly raised my suspension of disbelief for me to still have absolutely no suspension of disbelief. That didn't happen. 3) I don't like listing petty nitpicks, but I'll just throw out the oft-quoted gestation period one. 4) I guess I was rooting for that Pred too, as even in this movie I was able to hold on to my love for the predators. Too bad you know from the start that he is doomed, making it pointless. 5) Agreed but like I said, Caring about the lives of the characters is hard when there are no characters you care about. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts in defense of, but AvP was still, in a word, "Lame", and I think I'm justified in my preconceived notion of a great Cameron/Ridleyesque movie as being the standard for what these sequels should be. I like the two franchises too much not to say something when I see an AvP talkback. Also, I agree with superunknown85. I think director's cut of Alien 3 is a great movie, just oriented towards theme not action.
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I understand your opinion and respect it. I think, unlike me, you may have been expecting a blow your socks off movie and it wasn't what you wanted. I thought the movie was going to suck and was pleasantly surprised.
The gestation period one I've heard before, but if you think about it, the predators could with the tech they have bio-engineered fast gestating aliens for their training grounds. They don't strike me as wanting to wait to hunt. Probably pumped those eggs up with steriods to be able to kill aliens right away.
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Seriously. I once saw I guy standing awkwardly in an emergency room as he waited for a medic to help him remove the fish he'd got stuck up his ass two days before. But it all pales next to the fuckin' stupid picture up there.
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Remember the Humalien thing from Alien: Resurrection?
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So if an Alien fucks a Mexican and enters the US, is that an illegal Alien? And if so should he qualify for social security, and US benefits? Just wondering..
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make sure you check out the SciFi Hall of Fame, right underneath the Space Needle. You can see the ACTUAL Predator and AlienQueen prosthetics/costumes (oh yes, Ripley's power loader, too) and marvel how much LOVE went into the creation of those pieces. Truly fucking amazing.
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Yeah, stuff like the gestation thing could have been overlooked or rationalized away is a feasible way like you did, but for me only possible in a better movie. AvP had its moments so I understand your position (to a small degree:)), but they were too few and the problems were too many. Your comment on my expectations has unfortunately prompted me to recount my tragic sorrowful AvP story: I was REALLY pumped for a new installment when I first heard about AvP but after reading about some of the plot I realized that this was a 100:1 odds of being a good movie, and I didn't want to support a hackwork cash-in so I didn't see it in theaters. I rented it later and got just what I expected, but was willing to give it a chance hoping it made up for some of the flaws I saw coming. Unfortunately it did not. You're right that I want a rock my socks off movie, and settling for less is simply infeasible. With Alien and Predator I've discovered I am one of "those people", the hardcores, for whom substandard is excruciating. Usually I laugh when people get too wrapped up in their favorite material to have a chance to enjoy something, but goddamnit, not with Alien and Predator! AvP needs to rock, and rock hard! As for Alien 3, I saw it before I saw Aliens, so I suppose it helped me appreciate it more out of the box than people who had been invested in Aliens. For example when I realized who Newt and Hicks were I was like "Nooooooo!"
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Back in 1998 Kenner released a hybrid Predator-Alien action figure; part of its "Aliens: Hive Wars" series (http://tinyurl.com/2b4lel) - NIGHT RECON PREDATOR. I have two of them, one mint on card. The other is either stalking my printer or protecting it, I never decided (http://tinyurl.com/2qkk4y). Both were bought at Kay-Bee Toys. I like it. Pretty cool design, decent sculpt. Oh, on that last pix; the red Alien is something called ACID ALIEN - yeah, very redundant. Sorry. Articulation was the basic; arms, legs and head. The jaw did not move.
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I don't think it looks all that bad, maybe a little too skinny, maybe its still growing, but whatever. All I know is the trailer looks pretty good, like they are trying to go back to what made Alien 2 good. Personally, I really wish they had not gone the rout of Aliens against Predators. I like Aliens just the way they are, and that they are supposed to be the deadliest thing in the universe. I wish nothing more than to see the ALIEN franchise continue on. If it takes some AVP films to do than, then so be it. I didn't think AVP was all that bad, but this new one looks like its going to be better. Either way, I'm certainly going to go see it in the theater (and it sure as fuck better be Rated-R!!)
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Put someone with great sense of visual storytelling in charge and set it on a distant planet. No humans, no dialogue of any kind. Just tell a relatively straightforward prolonged hunt story using visuals and music and sound design only. Would most people be bored to tears? Yes. But it would probably be one awesome movie as far as I'm concerned.
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Hope they put a dog in it.
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you are just grumpy. In context this could look really cool. Don't be so quick to judgement. Its all about how it appears on screen, not in some art department.
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it would never happen in a million years. but its up my alley in terms of what the ideal AVP movie would be like.
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but not the fucking hair! Can't wait for the custody battle though.
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Dude brought us both the Predator and the Alien Queen. These Alien guys have absolutely no clue how the Predators work. See the unmasked one in AVP.
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That man needs to be involved.
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Read all about it here:
http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/new-alienpreditor-outed-as-totally-gay
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Who will bogart the blunt longest before the Peter Tosh album runs out?
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it would just be a diesel, lighter colored, more fleshy alien not stood up straight. it wouldnt have the flapping mandibals or the predator dread locks
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looks great to me..... perfect alien/predator combo.....i just thought it would have the jaws, didnt know it would have the dreads.....it is very cool that the dreads on the alien are the same as its tail, bony and prob sharp....looks fine to me ...dont know what the prob is
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anyway there is no alien/predator combo. it would just be a different form of alien, it wouldnt take on all the features like the dread locks and flapping jaw, it would just resemble the predator in size, skin tone, and girth
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Why has Harry not reported that Shatner is not in Star Trek?
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
Talk about getting fucked and racked over the coals this is HUGE news and "it ain't cool". I hated the idea of this movie before and now I hate it even more with this story.
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Himself? Oh wait, he's at war with himself maybe. Aren't we all. Aren't we all.
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i think i threw up a bit in my mouth just looking at how ridiculous that thing fucking looks. THAT IS THE WORST EXCUSE FOR A PREDALIEN I'VE EVER SEEN... i went from fuckin definately going to see this in theatres to renting to watching it on cable tv when it gets there within a few nanoseconds after seeing that picture. FUCKING RIDICULOUS
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did it fucking come out and be like 'hey i want to look like daddy, so im going to fucking dreadlock my hair up and shit'? LIKE WTF?!?!??!!
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HOW THE FUCK IS THE PREDALIEN BORN WITH DREADLOCKS?!??! EXPLAIN THIS TO ME! SERIOUSLY!!! I WANT AN EXPLANATION FROM YOU IDIOTS ABOUT HOW DREADLOCKS ARE PART OF THE PREDATOR'S SKELETAL STRUCTURE!!! WTF?!?!?!?!
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NOT PART OF HIS SKELETAL STRUCTURE... look it up
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Will Coolio and Whoopi Goldberg guest star?
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Predalien has a symbiote suit!
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Ya'll know too damn well that if Harvey Fierstein were to don a Ben Cooper Halloween mask and portray this creature it would STILL put this flick in a category that's light years ahead of the last. It honestly doesn't get any worse than Paul Anderson's AVP. Ever.
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fishnets are dam sexy.
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One word for you: Komondor.
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Now THAT might scare Ripley. Or it might even kill her... of laughter.
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aliens that burst out of humans dont look like humaliens
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was designed and built by h.r. giger, thats why. the man is a truly great and visionary artist. i myself designed a predator/alien hybrd back in art school. even had a good sculpt of the head worked out. the dreads were only along to outer ridges of the skull and were to be writhing like snakes. um yeah... there were like 6 total on each side. sickly white wormy ribbed things. it looked better than this design. although the mouth design is pretty identical. shoulda fucking copywritten that shit. it also had organic weapons similar to the predator's technology. i guess i figured the weapons were wired into the creatures body... so the alien would copy them kinda. like you know... retractable claws out the forearms and such, and invisibility to a degree.. camo... maybe
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Leave him alone! You're lucky he even performs for you, you BASTARDS! All you people want is more, more, MORE, MORE! He's a HYBRID!
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The Giger-Alien from ALIEN is already an Alien which uses human genetic code, as it has human skull beneath the translucent long skull. The eggs take some genetic code from the host. That does not mean that it merges the species, so this are still evil deadly Alien-monsters with some extra skills. No hairy tailwagging dog-aliens, but swifter and smaller ones perfectly adapted to kill dogs and live where dogs live.
"Pure" Aliens are the eggs in the facehuggers. No Alien that hatched under normal circumstance is pure alien, they always take genetic code from the hosts which species will be hunted.
Note that the Alien-human-Baby in ALIEN 4 IS a hybrid, as it is the spawn of an genetic experiment with an Alien-Queen.
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They obviously want to fuck up the whole franchise. One crappy movie wasn't enough...
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The first AvP was just plain nasty. Shame noone had the balls to try and make the graphic novel version into a film.
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hopefully it will surprise me unlike that piece of shit original. I couldn't get through it, I stopped after the aliens gestated in 10-15 minutes. Even Ressurection had merit(small as it was), and Alien 3 although admittedly lesser than the first two, strangely finds itself in my DVD player more often than nearly any other movie. On my projector, the cinematography and visual splendour is astonishing
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doesnt mean you SHOULD make an alien with dreadlocks
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It has been mentioned already that the aliens take on some of the characteristics of their host, but the dreds are too damned much. If they pull some bullshit like wrist blades and should acid launchers, as cool as that sounds, I will boycott this thing.
There are things that work in the Aliens mythos and there are things that do not. This is one of the DO NOTS. It is right up there with the crazy aliengina of "Resurrection". Well...maybe not that bad, but pretty close.
Make the predalien have mandibles and even blotchy pale skin, but don't give me dreads...and please keep the wrist blades and shoulder mounted acid launchers.
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I am praying this movie kicks ass. I'm already feeling that queeziness in my stomach that my favorite all time movie monster is going to be disrespected again. I noticed the other day that the ultra-violent trailer for AVP2 has been replaced with an edited version. Does that mean Hollywood is backing out of it's R rating to once again, go for the gold. After all, they have to sell those action figures and video games and lunchboxes and that means PG-13. Has anyone heard from Giger regarding the straight out VANDALISM of his beautiful creation. I believe they started fucking him over back around Alien 3 and he hasn't been involved since. And coincidentally the movies have gotten worse and worse. Personally I thought Alien 3 was a great movie. It looks beautiful and the spiralling action chase scenes in the mazes of the smelting complex is signature Fincher cinematography. There was some powerful acting in Alien3. Charles Dutton owned that movie. Took on the Alien with nothing but his fists, "Come on! That's all you've got? Is that all that you've got?" And we got a Bishop twofer, the cool looking, half destroyed Bishop robot, and Bishop II who just wants to "take it out of her". Alien Resurrection had good ideas that were poorly executed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet. Ripley Clone with enhanced abilities cool. The Betty and it's crew bringing the human hosts for the Aliens - cool. The cast - Weaver, Ryder, Wincott, and my favorite Ron Perlman - cool. Everything else - Fucking Awful. The Queen now gives birth instead of lays eggs. That Alien baby must have given Giger a stroke and Weaver was acting her ass off when she cried as the creature was sucked into space through the tiny hole in the port hole made by Ripley's acidic blood. I also thought Predator 2 was pretty good. Danny "I'm too old for this shit" Glover did a decent job but I think what that movie is most famous for (now I would say infamous) is the Alien skull in the trophy case on the Predator ship. That was marketing genius because that started the whole AVP Comics, Games, Toys, Movies, merchandising jackpot. But the first AVP movie was a joke. I was excited when I heard Bishop was going to be in it and then they totally wasted his character. And he gets killed by a Predator. WTF?? An Alien should have offed him not a Predator. The coolest thing about that movie was the end battle between the Alien Queen, the forgettable chick playing the lead and the predator. But then they had to end the movie with the Predator on the slab and the Alien bursts out of it's chest and the credits roll. The entire theatre groaned in disgust...I was hoping they would just pretend like that never happened and let the writers over at Dark Horse write the script. I guess we will see what happens. I have my fingers crossed.
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the predalien joins the Rastafarian religion, starts smoking weed, and decides "we got to stop all this fussin' and a fightin', mon."
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by dreadlocks on a monster
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Take a side, make a stand.
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Nothing says "crappy Hollywood budget-fest" like trying to make it sound more intellectual by referencing "Requiem for a Dream". How dumb do they think audiences are? How about an ORIGINAL IDEA?
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They put the subtitle on there to make it sound more standalone, like it doesn't need the first one to exist. Then you're tricked into seeing it, and it sucks too.
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Well, this doesn't make me want to go run out and see the movie 25 times - or even once - but this doesn't look that bad. Does it have the alien tail? How dumb will it look when the Predator jaws open to revel the second jaw? I guess those are two questions I have before flushing this down the toilet.
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maybe drinkin' a beer...
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"To crush your enemies, dem driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of da Aliens..."
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they gave all the aliens dreadlocks because the study group determined that the movie needed a more urban appeal.
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They've been ripping of his amazing original designs for 20 years now, why not just pay him to come up with something mind-blowing. Not some stupid Bob Marley- Xbox 360 boss monster designed by some kind of Pacific Northwest douchebag videogame designer who did terrific stuff on Gears of War. Weak!!! And more importantly why are any of you expecting a good film after that last piece of shit starring the sooo tough looking WB/CW cast in their United Colors of Benneton Combat gear. Weak - Lame - Gay!!! I need to rinse this Hollywood Gen-Y horseshit taste out of my mouth by watching Aliens.
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Because of the massive increase in human population over the last several decades, especially in North America, there are now enough dumb people out there who are content to consume this type of cheap dreck pseudo-entertainment so that the studios have a guaranteed profit every single time.Think about it. There's only one Hollywood, but the raw number of stupid people grows every single day, which means more net consumers for crap. Only a massive disaster--where's that asteroid when we need it?--could wipe out enough people to bring this type of filmmaking to a halt.Perhaps along with the "turn off your cell phone" spots they run before movies like this, they could also run a helpful "please do not reproduce" public service announcement.Or just pump nerve gas into the theaters.
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If they mated. That's so dumbass stupid. Geeeeez.
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The Weyland Yutami Corporation knew what it had out there. Two "artificial people" had intently studied it, scrutinised it, and no doubt logged their findings which got reported back. So if the key plot point to these picks is that The Company knows what it's got then why doesn't The Company responsible for creating this fictional Company know what it's dealing with. Yes, Fox, I'm talking to you. It's an alien. An alien. Not a predator. An alien. A xenomorph that has taken a little bit of its hosts genetic makeup when it was embryo so as to be best adapted to whatever environmental scene it gatecrashes over dinner. We all know this. We're happy to know the lifecycle of this chap even though we're not even getting paid for it. So why, dear Fox, is our alien wearing a targetting system on his shoulder. Why should he care? He's a relentless animal killer. If it sees you you're in big trouble mister, an he ain't fussed about taking you our with panache. It's just dumb. The chap's blind anyway, so why would he need the laser triangulation? I'm assuming he's got that covered... Ah, why am I bothering? I'm talking about a Company who hasn't even heard of the word "tetralogy" and continues to dumb down it's once most inspired and intelligent films. I'm shaking my head at you.
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Oct 27, 2007 11:58:07 AM CDT
If that picture makes you mad, you must not have any friends.
by dr sauch
This will be a fucking awesome movie. You are a joyless human if you can not appreciate the fun of dumb movies wherein alien/predator hybrids kill bad actors in the rain, well then what can you enjoy. Yes, Alien and Aliens were great movies. Classics. This will be retarded, and I will see it opening weekend, because it will also be *gasp* FUN!
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"You're all gonna die. The only question is how you check out. Do you want it on your feet? Or on your f**kin' knees... begging? I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothing! So I say *f**k* that thing! Let's fight it!"
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Aliens vs. predator sucked hard, it would have been better if it was a dialogue- and human-free movie, just ALIENS and PREDATORS. Also the hybrid one looks dumb, and would everyone please stop referring to the Predators hair as "dreadlocks" and please stop calling him Rastafarian, there is nothing to indicate that Predators are Rasta, and guess what, if you're from another planet YOU'RE NOT RASTAFARIAN!!! It sounds stupid, knock it off
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as some TBers above suggested, an all out, no dialog, just hunt movie has potential, I would get David Thowy or however you spell it the gu y that did Pitch Black to direct it.a side note would the Pitch Black aliens or the Xenomorphs or the Predators win?crap, i think I just gave Hollywood a new idea
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There are more pictures and plot reveals that make it way better!
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I'm past the point of really caring about this franchise at all and I'm not surprised it looks more like a rip off of both Predator and Alien than something canon. However, I don't think there's any validity to arguments like "If that picture makes you mad, you must not have any friends" because that's not an argument based on the quality of the design, but rather a personal attack that doesn't do anyone any good. However, people that have ice cream are generally more content and less likely to be angered by things as trivial as bad special effects design.
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Oct 27, 2007 1:57:03 PM CDT
William Shatner snubbed for a role in new Star Trek movie
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
Confirmed! http://tinyurl.com/37loxz
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...looks like a desperate attempt to capture the spirit of ALIENS? I swear the chick in that trailer looks like a young Sigourney Weaver--she's even wearing Ripley's tank top. Also, there's the signature shot of the alien coming toward the camera inside a ventilation shaft. Not saying these are bad things (heck, probably the best thing that could happen to this ill-fated franchise), but I'm just sayin'. Also, the "predalien" looks retarded. Like a predator wearing a halloween mask.
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...Fox goes back and re-encodes ALL of their Blu-ray releases in AVC. No MPEG-2 shit, not even for *AvP*. Do you hear me, Chachie Cheapo Rothman?
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Are we gonna get Jennifer Connelly for a dildo humping cut scene in this one too? I smell Academy Award nomination. Hope they do it artistically.
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Predator 3 starring Jean-Claude Van Damme!
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I hear what you're saying. But let's be real.
Do we REALLY need Hollywood to make a movie about the Xenomorph's homeworld? You know that movie will NEVER be as cool on screen as it is in our minds.
After years of wanting, we got Alien vs Predator.
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When you're pushed, killing's easy as breathing.
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I think that would definetly work, but it would be cooler if it was animated. Something like Aeon flux with awsome animations, cool episodes and lots and lots of violence.
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god I hope someone says "Bring it!" in this movie like in Transformers! Yeeeeah!!
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Why the sacrifice? Why the pain? There arn't any promises, nothings certain, only that some get called and some get saved. She won't ever know the grief and pain for those of us left behind. So we commit these bodies to the void, with a glad heart. For within each seed there is the promise of a flower. A new life. A new....beginning.
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I agree it COULD work, but I don't think they would make one that WOULD.
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That's some bad shit.
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That aliens have a humanoid shape because they impregnate a human. The alien in Alien 3 impregnated a dog and it was more doglike, crawling on all fours mostly. So the predalien concept actually makes sense to me, even though it's retarded looking.
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Do some research on the "Space Jockey"... Weyland Yutani had nothing to do with the xenomorphs creation.
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looks fine to me. it's still basically the alien. the shit they pulled in RESURRECTION was ridiculously bad. in comparison with that, this one is great. Personally, I wish this movie would have nothing to do with the first movie. and if I had my druthers, it would occur on some space colony in the future (like the novels or like ALIENS). but just from seeing the trailers alone (edited and uncensored), it's already head and shoulders better than the crap from the first movie. can't say anything more than that. but that in itself is certainly a good thing. seeing the hybrid doesn't change that feeling.
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Over here: http://tinyurl.com/3xyhso
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Thought I'd clear that up... http://tinyurl.com/3xyhso
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"Um, he needs to wash his dreadlocks... otherwise, he's fine."
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just noticed the punisher "skull" on his chest. hopefully just a quirk of the angle and lighting.
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This looks awesome. What would you want a Predalien to look like?! Hey Harry, do a contest where people can submit that.
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oh and so does Alien3
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That was fucking awsome. One of the coolest experiences ever.
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Nah man, you lucky bastard. Live in Australia but read about it years ago in a Fangoria mag. Do you know if it still exists?
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I've seen a lot worse things - that Alien/Human thing from Alien Resurrection for instance...
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sorry, it's been gone a long time, at least ten years and probabably more.
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had pictures of the opening and it had Sigourney cutting the ribbon.
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Just looked it up at Wikipedia, says there Alien War will re-open in April 2008!
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No worse than that Albino jelly blob hybrid from the end of that other crap alien sequel!Cross them some more I say, what the fuck! nothing's sacred anymore Give us Resident Alien V's Predinators where they cross aliens with zombies and attack metal endoskeleton enhanced predators! and give it to Euwe Boll spliced with WPT anderson or whatever they are called!?
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I liked Alien Resurrection. It's got the look and feel of an alien movie and the characters are right.
Awsome casting.
Ron Perlman, Brad Dourif, Leland Orser, Sigourney Weaver, Winona Ryder, Michael Wincott, Dan Hedaya. How often do you see a cast like that?
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jumped the shark, in avp 1, in avp they appeared to have humped the shark. here's hoping RastAlien sounds like JarJar, that would be so bad, it could be funny.
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Oct 28, 2007 7:26:44 AM CDT
DAVID DOBKIN TO DIRECT FLASH MOVIE WILL BE A SPINOFF
by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell
of the justice league.FUCK THIS GUY IS DIRECTING FRED CLAUS WTF
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I will never see AvP 1 or 2
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even though it conflicts with the previous films, is because they want to make it look more like a horror film and less like a science fiction film. It's all marketing. Horror is popular right now and science fiction is not, it's as simple as that. They hope to make more money.
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Did that Alien look like a dog? nope...
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shooting in a sci-fi setting.
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Oct 28, 2007 10:16:51 AM CDT
POST A FREAKIN ARTICLE ON THE FLASH MOVIE ARGHHHHHHH!
by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell
and didnt avp suck?
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You know it will never be shown in white light fully lit like this in the final movie. Must be a prop shot. I still have hope this can be decent, but I think we'll have to settle for "better than the first." Of course, a stop motion home video version made by twelve year olds with action figures would have been better (and scarier!) than the first one.
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And - I don't think this thing looks so bad.
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There is no aiming device on the Predalien in the picture, just the usual shoulder-thing any Alien has, even the dog-alien (which f.e. has no spikes on the back). So what are you talking about?
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I love this site - first you overhype the gore of the trailer to this sequel and hold out all hope that it wont be lame. Then you rip on the predalien. Honestly, wtf did you expect a hybrid to look like - it looks EXACTLY like an alien mixed with a predator. What I would love, for once, is for you to offer up some CONSTRUCTIVE criticsim - design a better aliator and I will actually be impressed and feel like this deserves its own thread.
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there is no workprint of this going around, asshole.
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There's been probably as many versions of cross mixings between aliens and predators as there's been incarnations of those franchises in battle. And that's a lot.
Tons of videogames and comic books over the years now. Plus just extra action figures.
Here's a picture of a better one than the one their using in the movie: http://tinyurl.com/2xfwh7
How's that for constructive critisism?
Here's another one: http://tinyurl.com/2zk4zb
Here's one I'm EXTREMELY thankful for that we didn't end up with (so yeah it COULD be A LOT worse): http://tinyurl.com/22yyzh -
With Ridley Scott, and a return to the Gothic horror possibly fused with Cameron's techy marines. Or maybe fuck that, and someone makes a Warhammer 40k movie.
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Oct 28, 2007 6:39:34 PM CDT
Not sure I'd like to see a new Ridley Scott Alien movie
by thenorthlander
Maybe Danny Boyle though.
Maybe even Shyamalan. I mean, the guy's a really talented director, there's no question about that. It's just he shouldn't be writing the scripts, or at least not alone. I think one of the things that made The Sixth Sense so great also must have been Frank Marshall and Kathleen Kennedy.
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I believe its the same guy who directed "Fred Claus". I dont get it...do they want "The Flash" to be a comedy thats not funny??
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I dont think it looks that bad. I'd like for one of you to do a mock up that looks better than that. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
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How about The Wachowskis?
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IE plastic piece of shit. However the trailer looks promising. Will reserve judgement till Dec.
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The thing I don't like about AVP2 is that from the trailer it looks more like a run around in the dark and slash a bunch of teenagers type flick. I was hoping for something in space maybe even on their home planet.
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Oct 29, 2007 5:08:06 AM CDT
This has pretty much confirmed all my suspicions about Alien 3
by lost jarv
cheers prince_fufu. I knew people were upset that it wasn't Aliens and therefore unable to judge it on it's own merits. For the record, You're wrong it is ilght years ahead of AvP.Gabriel Gray- you are a complete dipshit, go and infect somewhere else with your odious presence.You know who has been absent from this- since I bitchslapped him for hypocrisy last week? Our arbiter of taste and all things intellectual- M-O-M. WOnder which hole he is hiding in.
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A quote from the article - Strause says of Ridley Scott's 1979 classic, Alien.
"That movie was dark. That movie used a lot of rain,"
yes it was dark, but no rain that I recall. Did he actually see it?
He probably read the comic book adaption. That seems to be the angle this movie is coming from.
ADI look to have done a good job condsidering being hampered by directors who aren't suitable for the role. -
There was no rain in Alien, but there were a few wet scenes, with water dripping from the ceiling in people's faces etc and I think the Alien series in general has a sort of dampness to it.
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Erm, on his left shoulder, looks like a targeting device, doesn't it? No? It could be..? Hmmm. No. Okay. But if it IS a targeting device, then, erm, sheesh, Fox eh?
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I can't imagine it being close to anything star trek. This was ACTION all the way through.
You had to RUN together with the other visitors through a maze of grid floor and low ceiling after an Aliens marine lookalike (the Vasquez chick was amazingly similar) who constantly yelled at you to get against the wall as he fired rounds after rounds with his pulse rifle (that actually had muzzle fire and sounded exactly like in the movie). It had hidden speakers with screaming aliens from other floors and vents, alarms ringing, red alarm lights, strobing white lights, and actors in rubber Alien suits chasing you and if you dragged behind they'd catch you (I was THIS close but got away).
There was even a moment in an elevator where the marine told one kid to stand by the doors and just as the doors opened an alien reached in and dragged the poor kid out screaming as the marine fired out the door.
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Sandy Collora got it more righrt in ten minutes of that fan film than all the comics (yes, even the hallowed early 1990s Dark Horse ones), all the scripts (even the Peter Briggs one) and the fucking execrable Paul What Shite Andercrap movie PUT TOGETHER! Just get hold of than fan movie and watch it, because THAT is how to shoot Aliens vs Predators. Fucking awesome!
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That is one ugly motherfucker...
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I'm telling you, it was fucking wild.
I'm totally going there this summer. -
I hated the idea of a predalien anyway.
"We're in the pipe... five by five." -
http://www.3dcustomfoam.com/i/photos/maquettes/alien1.jpg
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I'm tired of fanboys masturbating all over 10 minutes of a terrible Batman costume blended with the Alien and the Predator, dubbed with Danny Glover grunting and screaming in Predator 2. Sandy Collora just mixed OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK, and you act like it's the second coming. It was bad.
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