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James T. Kirk Is...
Merrick here...
CHRIS PINE.
He'd been widely conjectured to be the man, and was identified last week by Hollywood Reporter as being in talks for the role.
But there was some question about his casting...he'd also been offered a role in a new Joe Carnahan movie called WHITE JAZZ, whose filming conflicted with JJ's TREK.
Something had to give.
And, it seems the issue has now been resolved - per this posting on Joe Carnahan's blog:
Kids:
The young man playing Junior Stemmons has opted to 'boldly go where no man
has gone before' and thus, had to bow out of WHITE JAZZ. I've been talking
to him this past week and knew how tough the decision had to be for him.
I don't envy ever being in that spot but I gave him my full support, even if
it meant he didn't do JAZZ. I get it. You don't get opportunities like that
often and I told him as long as he could control as much of that process as
possible and not get sucked into doing lesser sequels as a result of taking
this gig, then good luck and God bless.
We're sure to do something down the road. I've already slotted him in for
KILLING PABLO.
JC
Must've been a difficult decision for Pine; he has some big, flamboyant footsteps to follow.
The young man playing Junior Stemmons has opted to 'boldly go where no man
has gone before' and thus, had to bow out of WHITE JAZZ. I've been talking
to him this past week and knew how tough the decision had to be for him.
I don't envy ever being in that spot but I gave him my full support, even if
it meant he didn't do JAZZ. I get it. You don't get opportunities like that
often and I told him as long as he could control as much of that process as
possible and not get sucked into doing lesser sequels as a result of taking
this gig, then good luck and God bless.
We're sure to do something down the road. I've already slotted him in for
KILLING PABLO.
JC
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also, pine is lame
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Brap!
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LIVE LONG AND PROSPER!!!
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danny crane
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No "Kirk" vibe from that head shot photo...
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Oct 15, 2007 10:34:59 PM CDT
CHICAGO BLADE RUNNER FANS! NOVEMBER 2, 2007 IT WILL OPEN HERE!!!
by wackybantha
http://www.musicboxtheatre.com /comingsoon.html
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www.khaaan.com
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come 'on. Take a role in another Carnahan direct to dvd spectacular, or climb on board with a $170 million production, with a wicked cast, cool director, hot script (or at least momentary hot scriptwriters) and VERY VERY likely 50-70 million dollar promotion to play the role of one of the most iconic characters in modern pop culture?
Something is amiss here....
Note: the budgetary and promotional dollars are entirely based on speculation posted elsewhere... but hey, it SOUNDS cool. -
By the way. All publicity about Shatner not playing Old Kirk in the movie is lie. Word to your mother.
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C'mon, Pine would once again shine in the TREMOR BROTHERS.
Kick ass charcter.
Kick ass movie idea.
PLEASE make it happen.
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Is that really a good idea?
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The kid will probably never have to worry about money for the rest of his natural life, or that of his kids, or their kids.
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the moment in the film in which he puppeteers dead Ben Affleck's face was oddly moving.
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Oct 15, 2007 10:50:03 PM CDT
Pine will be awesome and forever be ingrained in Pop Culture.
by stereotypical evil archer
He'll bascially be immortal in a sense.
He'll always be known as Kirk.
The Trek Geeks will give him an eternal pension through conventions.
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Oct 15, 2007 10:51:29 PM CDT
Pine... must learn... to add pauses... in his... speech pattern.
by stereotypical evil archer
With a smile.
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Is this guy a good actor? Should be interesting to find out. In the meantime I am just waiting for idiots to come crawling out of the woodwork, "but he isn't from Iowa, HE ISN'T FROM IOWA!!!"
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Does he have the gravitas? The bombastic and pretentious gravitas?
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There's only one Kirk and you know it.
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Ang Lee's hulk, I guarantee
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I don't have the barest of care for this movie whatsoever. The most entertaining thing about it is the controversial casting of a Korean as Sulu. I can't wait to see the Japanese launch a missle onto South Korea over this.
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Oct 15, 2007 11:10:12 PM CDT
You're Going To Have To Come Down Here! KHAAAAAAAANNN!
by darth fabulous
I still think this dude would make a better Pike...cast a NAME as Kirk please.
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Oct 15, 2007 11:11:31 PM CDT
HERC, you are dead on about Shatner and his connection to this m
by zillabeast
I have long suspected that they will continue to deny him being in this film all the way up until we see it for ourselves. Shatner will be in this movie, not a doubt about it.
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I know very little about him, but I hope he's damn good. He needs to be, and I'm sure the casting director knows it more than anything else.
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But how will it play with the Gorn?
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...I'm just not seeing it from this guy.One thing is for fucking sure = Pine better start practicing that "Somersault Into Dual Judo-Chop-to-Clavicle Maneuver".
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Seriously. The Original crew as kids. Terrible, Terrible idea. Why not focus on a new crew, with new characters going through star fleet. Are they going to have 1960's costumes or something that looked like the 80's unis?
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will he look good in black mascara and eyeliner?
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Another abortion of a project from Hollywood. 90210 Star Trek, just what we need.
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Shatner IS going to be in the movie? What do you know that we don't? Come on man, don't do this to me! Anticipation sucks!
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this kid is surprisingly god in everything I've seen him in. that being said i still don't know how to feel about this project. i still wish they would give the next gen cast a proper film send off. Eh, big budget event trek...I'll take it any way i can get it.
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This is a fumble. And for this quote to come from an Irishman, it's legit...that kid's head is huge! How will he be able to dodge behind rocks big enough to keep his head from getting blown off by a klingon phaser?! Seriously, his head is humongous! Or is his body's really small...but I think it's the head.
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Black people in space = #1 movie in America
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I know a whole fucking lot about this movie that you do not. Wake up, Trekkie!!!!
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Because I know I'll be there opening night (if the reviews are good) and cheer at the first sign of a two-fisted punch and flying leg kick. He just better be one hammy, physical, chauvinistic son of a bitch. Does he have the chops to be a "Shatnerian" actor? Few do. And certainly Matt Damon doesn't.
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McEvoy not Scotty. Branagh not Obi. Word to your mother.
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so here's a thought: sylar is like an evil spock, or vulcan. after all, both can read minds, right? I mean, spock can do a mind meld, whereas sylar can open a cap and take stuff out. similar, right?
sigh. Chris Pine is like 3 inches taller than real kirk. Sylar is the only person who I think will do his job right. Simon Pegg will be playing it for yuks too much.
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As long as JJ Abrams doesn't add a podracing scene, we may be ok.
Sigh.
Live long and prosper?
Sigh.
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Oct 15, 2007 11:33:18 PM CDT
WILL THEY CAST A REAL MONGOLIAN TO PLAY YOUNG KHAN?
by bringingsexyback
or will they give it to a Korean?
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Never herd of him but he better kick some ass because Trekker's (and I'm one) can be picky. Oh, and so far I hate the casting but I'm taking a wait and see stance, you never know right.
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Where's the MAD MEN Talkbacks?! Don Draper used to be someone else! Shit is out of control, yo!
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Seriously, Rick Berman, the great dodo bird of the galaxy, screwed that one up by killing Kirk in the nexus. And I don't even want to get into a whole "they're still in the nexus debate". But anyhoo..how can an older fatter Kirk (could he be even more so all these years later?) resurface in a new trek movie. Given the plot rumors we've been hearing, there could be no place for him except in a Voice Over or as George Kirk. Or maybe Grandpa Kirk at this point. Maybe that's it. Maybe JJ will make J.T. Kirk's Grandpa's name into Tiberius. Oh that's it, isn't it. That's crap.
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Oct 15, 2007 11:35:33 PM CDT
Chris Pine will be to Star Trek what George Lazenby was to 007.
by retroactive
Honestly, outside of the Wrath of Khan and First Contact minus all of that cheesy Zephrym Cochran hooey...the old movies were pretty lame. I hope Abrams knocks the cover off the ball. I'd love to see a Starship Battle on par with ROTS' opening number. I'd even like to see the Star Trek ship look a little cooler while honoring the old style. But what I don't want is a really young cast fumbling their way through space, learning how to be great, like some kid with braces trying to fumble through undoing his girl's bra strap in the dark. I could give a crap what Kirk did at Star Fleet. Give me space and experience right now. But they'll blow it and I'll see it on HBO in 2010.
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Have your new hero Chris Pine enter our universe by banging coed Uhura in a Jefferies Tube. That would make all the naysayers, including me, shut right the fuck up.
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JJ Abrams has probably already penned a scene where Kirk reprograms the Kobayashi Maru. Crap, he'll probably even show the REAL Kobayashi Maru.
Maybe just for kicks he'll show kirk's mom packing a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with transparent aluminum. Or Scotty using a computer mouse.
Maybe Chekov will try to pick up chicks by asking if they want to see his "nuclear wessel".
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Just sayin'
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If it's a reboot or a reimagining...no hokey cameos to pass the baton. I don't even want an old Spock. All it will do is remind me that Sylar is Spock and his voice can't compare to Nimoy's.
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Nobody knows, man. Nobody knows.
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Brian Cox as Sybok.
Tom Welling as Christopher Pike
Hellen Mirren as a Tholian
Britney Spears as Yeoman Rand
Dakota Fanning as Baby Saavik.
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It should have been Ryan Reynolds. Way to suck, JJ.
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Oct 15, 2007 11:46:14 PM CDT
Best Star Trek Movie = Master and Commander
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
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as long as kerri russell doesn't show up with an extended cameo and an exploding capsule in her nose, this can't get much worse.
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What a mistake the size of the Delta Quadrant. And the director can't even blame it on getting drunk of Romulan Ale.
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Oh and Karl Urban will likely play Bones McCoy.
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Set auto destruct sequence.
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Oct 16, 2007 12:16:35 AM CDT
Having another actor play James T. Kirk is like having another a
by cyclo
JJ Abrams and the corporate drones behind him are well aware that there are enough suckers out there who are stupid enough to make this latest fiasco profitable... Just give it a $200 million budget, call it "Star Trek", and have some charactaer in it named "James T. Kirk." The point isn't about making a good movie, it's about creating a spectacle and putting $$$asses$$$ in the seats. The movie could be the worst fucking disaster on the planet, but in the end JJ Abrams and his corporate drones will be laughing all the way to the bank... Rob Zombie-style.
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Simon Pegg and this guy... the crew can't be all young and hot, I want a manly man. Think Gregory Peck. Kirk Douglas. The Brawny Man. Guys, are you paying attention?!
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having another actor play Rocky Balboa.
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Is this the proverbial snowball effect? Thanks for nothing guys.
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Putting a name actor in the lead for this giant franchise.
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Giacchino will knock this score out of the fucking park.
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JJ seems to be pulling this into light action-comedy instead of action-drama. I'm not sure how to feel about that.
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Nimoy will carry the torch into the new series, but Shatner won't be there? WHY? Did he have another pay dispute with the studio? Or was he not invited at all? A new Star Trek without the original Capt. Kirk's blessing will be off to a rocky start, guaranteed.
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I really don't have a problem with this. To be honest? Although I love him to death, Simon Pegg is the odd man out so far. The younger cast members have an average age of 26. Pegg is 37. Why is Scotty 11 years older than the rest of the crew?
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Chris, do you want to continue to be an unknown D-lister in Hollywood, or do you want to make freaking headlines?
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Oct 16, 2007 12:58:26 AM CDT
Ok will he play Kirk as Shatner's Kirk with the way Shatner spea
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
if you get what I am saying. I am still not happy this movie is being made but I can't help but be excited that I will get to see old spock and old kirk one last time on the big screen.
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This dude looks more like cyclops.
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I haven't seen this dude in anything, so I can't make any comments on his acting, but man, does he not look right. He looks like a typical WB/CW/Fox young hot prettyboy clone. Oh well, at least they got an American to play him and not a fucking Englishman! (Or a Korean for that matter! :P )
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And that's a good thing. I can actually picture him in the gold velour shirt. I just want TREK to be good again.
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I agree. All the excitement for me is seeing the Shat and Leonard Nimoy playing these charcters on the big screen again, although I feel it will only be a brief appearance. Seeing someone else play Kirk..I dunno. I'll give the dude a chance, but for me there is only one J.T.Kirk.
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Because he's TALENTED. Oh, but he's good looking, so automatically we have to start saying he's a "hack" and that he's a "horrible choice", right? Think what you will about "Smokin' Aces", but the guy stole the show. Did any of you nay-saying Angelenos happen to see LaBute's "Fat Pig?" Oh, wait...probably not. "But, wait!", you say, "Wasn't he in 'Just My Luck' and 'The Princess Diaries 2?'" Oh, gee, well you have a point there. I mean, most actors in their careers have NEVER done dumb, romantic comedies, right? Not Clooney. Not Pitt. Not Nicholson. Not Damon. (Okay, well, maybe seriously not Damon, but that's rare...) Point is, give the guy a chance. I know it's not en vogue in being a fanboy to do so, but, maybe just wait until the film opens, perhaps?
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Blah, blah, blah, hate, hate, hate. Suck, suck, suck.
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Oct 16, 2007 1:42:52 AM CDT
This guy has been in "Just my Luck" and The Princess Diaries 2:
by gqtaste
Boy have times changed. What the fuck is going on here? Bringing in a bunch of femiman, gay assed little boys for these roles. It makes me wanna throw up.
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Fuck
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after the NASA probe encounters the machine civilation, of course. Now my dreams might be answered!
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why on earth even try to recast someone as iconic as kirk?
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Well, played, sir. Well played.
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Oct 16, 2007 2:19:19 AM CDT
Yea I'm sure chosing "Star Trek" over "White Jazz" was real hard
by mike_d
pffft.
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It's obvious to me now that except for the names, Abrams is throwing out all previous ST characterizations and re-imagining everything and everyone for this film. Doesn't matter; even if it's incredible crap I'll still see it.
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JJ Abrams must be the most overrated filmmaker ever. Lost is great fun but Alias and MI3 sucked big time. MI3 was proof that Abrams should never be given a feature film to make again. This new Trek film will be a disaster. Reason for the original Trek's success? The chemistry between Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley. Strip that out and you're left with nothing. This film is doomed. And the fanboys will crucify Abrams next Xmas, just you wait and see!
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But maybe this guy will make his own. There is no way that they could cast shatner and it wouldn't have made sense. At least they picked a relatively unknown. - Now I just hope they don't make this movie into a Smallville type affair. Please Hollywood, NO MORE US COCK ROCK OVER THE MOVIES!
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about cast of JLA. This is much worse. Actively fucking with established legends is incomprehensible.
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Jensen had his heart all set to play Kirk, and he supposedly did great in readings with Quinto, but you just HAD to scare him away from the role, and what would've been his big break. Instead of signing him up for the Trek flick and a few sequels, your rebooting ass wanted to get him locked in for T.J.Hooker and Tek War relaunches, Priceline:The Movie, and worst of all, the bigscreen adaptation of the RESCUE 911 episode where that dumbass little boy got his tongue stuck in the freezer. THAT right there would scare anyone off! Way to go there genius. This movie, as of right now, is FUCKED. (That is, unless they cast Giovanni Ribisi as Bones.)
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Oct 16, 2007 2:55:26 AM CDT
Orci says they are still working on getting Shatner involved
by darth voodoo
As of about a week ago ST writer Roberto Orci claims that he + J.J. Abrams are still working on getting Shatner involved in the film.
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Now get the Shat to be in the film also.
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Only a maniac would have made any other decision. This will set him up for life, and he knows it. Anyway, although I still don't think JJ is the right man for the job (I would have preferred Singer) I'm cautiously optimisic about this. We'll see. And I'd like to see Shatner in it, but then in all honesty he painted himself into a corner when he agreed to star in Generations. He approved the script, then cashed his cheque. He may regret it now, but what's done is done.
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Yeah big turn off. This guy is just too ..... well he looks like one of paris's boyfriends.
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'nuff said...
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Oct 16, 2007 3:12:10 AM CDT
Right on money. Banging Uhura in a jeffries tube in his first sc
by harold the great
then continue his day like nothing happened would truly be a magnificent way to launch NuKirk on the big screen.
Oh man, it would be fucking sweet.
I still say they could've gone with Jensen Ackles though. He basically plays a young Kirk on Supernatural - without the scenery chewing. -
....doesn't mean he couldn't appear in this new Trek. Remember this is a prequel, reboot, whatever, so a framing sequence with old Kirk and old Spock sitting around remembering their early days together could start and end the movie. This reminiscing session could have very easily occurred prior to Kirk's death in Generations. Although, now that I think of it, Shatner did appear in Generations without Nimoy when Leonard had a problem with the studio and refused to participate. It would serve Shatner right if Nimoy appeared in the new movie without him!
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Oct 16, 2007 3:18:39 AM CDT
Who they cast as Transporter chief Kyle will make/break this mov
by nachonegro
There's your new AICN catchphrase right there.
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Oct 16, 2007 3:21:08 AM CDT
"As long as he doesn't get sucked into doing sequels..."
by napoleon park
Because we all know how much actors hate job security.
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Sorry, but Shatner should have left it with Star Trek VI. That was a great swansong for all of them, and they should have left it, right there. But Shatner just had to have one last big cheque. I'm a huge TOS fan, always have been - but Shatner pretty much shot himself in the foot. I suppose I can't blame him in some ways - back then it looked like his career was over - this was way before Denny Crane. And Nimoy didn't have a problem with the studio - he just felt STVI was a good enough swansong, and he was smart enough not to get involved with what, frankly, turned out to be a pretty shite film. There was only one decent TNG movie - and Generations sure wasn't it.
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You know it to be true.
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Oct 16, 2007 3:27:11 AM CDT
Who they cast as Admiral Nogura will make/break this movie
by nachonegro
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Oct 16, 2007 3:36:13 AM CDT
Who the cast as Lieutenant Leslie will make/break this movie
by darth fabulous
Take that to the bank
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Definitely
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This movie is going to be cash money...they should have cast Kid Chino as Kirk and Brody as Spock...
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Best character in the show - period
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...that would really make this awesome.
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Shatner should be Pine’s acting coach
There is an easy solution to all this, boys and girls of Talkback, and JJ, listen up now. You need to make sure you give Shatner a money offer he can’t refuse, plus percentage and merchandising rights. If the deal is hot enough, you’ll snag em.
The deal is for the following:
1) Shatner will agree to appear as Old Kirk in a way it can be canonical, or an acceptable axiom to canon. Hell J.J. if you can get writers to hash out an origin story about a space ship going to warp speed, surely you can get Trek consultants to cough up a plausible yet popular solution for us to see Old Kirk back. None of this is more outlandish than your random Trek story. And by the way, fuck “Star Trek Generations”!!! Yeah- I said it!
2) Shatner will agree to coach this new kid to ACT JUST LIKE WILLIAM SHATNER. The Kirk personality is nothing without Shatner’s “Shatnerian” pauses and staccato end lines. Make sure he hams it up to the camera, make sure he walks as he talks when making The Big Point of it All, so the camera is forced to follow him and pan out off his poor upstaged co-stars. Bill, make sure he comes across as the self assured alpha male jock that gets off on his own ingenuity and looks. Make sure he flirts with the space babes, because that’s the best part of what life’s all about for Kirk- fucking the space-babes. Bill, coach the kid to make sure he screams KHAAAAAANNN!!!! appropriately so when he himself is middle aged, he can harken back to your own teachings for the Star Trek II remake. Bill, since cloning is not allowed in the U.S., you need to give us the next best thing, which is an actor that acts just like you.
3) Shatner will agree to return to his own personal hell and attend as many Trek conventions to help promote the movie. And Bill, you must appear in your ST II uniform. And in case your ego can’t take it anymore, if you try to pull a SNL life-imitates-art-imitates life scenario and dis the poor loser Trekkies (Trekkers- sorry) that worship you, you will be fined a considerable deduction from your percentage. No rhetorical “Did you ever kiss a girl”? questions lashed out to your Trek fans.
All kidding aside, Bill the majority of Trek fans and followers want you back, so agree to this movie, ok? I myself am a Kirk fan, and believe that he is the #1 alpha male leader in the Trek Universe, and fuck Berman and Braga for killing him off. Bill, you know you’re at the center of the Trek universe, so agree to do this movie because it’s the right thing to do. And JJ, don’t fuck this one up. Use Shatner as stipulated above. WE WANT KIRK!!! See? Easy solution. I have spoken, and I am out of here.
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Can't wait to hear him sing Rocket Man, Redux.
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Pegg, Pine, Bana, Quinto...I haven't seen it in my mind's eye at all. But I've had a change of heart about Pegg as Scotty, and now...fuck it. Bring it on. Do your worst, reinvent it to fuck, reimagine the shit out of it, and I'll watch it. I'm in. What the hell.
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This could be the most ridiculous Trek yet. Almost worth watching for car crash value alone. Now cast Nick Frost as a fat Klingon commander.
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This could be the most ridiculous Trek yet. Almost worth watching for car crash value alone. Now cast Nick Frost as a fat Klingon commander.
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...but instead of trying to modernize it like the 90's flick, keep it like it was, campy as hell and cheap 60's era special effects. Cast John Lithgow as Dr.Smith, Alan Kalter as the robot, ad the rest would fall into place nicely as those two anchoring the show. Carlos Bernard would be pretty good as Dr.Robinson, and hell, Reiko Aylesworth would work in the June Lockhart role. SciFi, get on this right now!
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There's your first job as Chief Engineer, Pegg. Fix this Talback, fatboy!
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The moment we see the cast wearing the original series' uniforms and Sylar in vulcan makeup and ears - that's when we'll know if the film is a flop or success. Personally the sight of those female crew miniskirts will be enough for me to pay for a ticket.
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Man Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Exceeded The Talkback Name Character Limit, you are a fucking genius. Couldn't agree more. Kick Abrams off, make him take his silly-ass Muppet Babies Trek cast with him, and get Peter Weir in here. Crowe for Khan.
And all you Trekkers quit giving NEMESIS shit. It was a kick-ass space action movie, with a strangely sexy Romulan Dina Meyer, some very cool space battle sequences, and what? You bitch about it? Better than that fucking save the whales bollocks from back in the day >:p -
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I base this purely on my instinct and not something I know like yourself.
Surley though, if you guys know stuff and you don't post it, it contradicts what this site used to be about?
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He's got really good potential. More looking forward to White Jazz though.
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DEEZE NUTZ but who is this guy
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Dear Paramount, fuck you. Seriously I am so over trek re-imaginings already. About 15yrs ago I wanted to know what happened after the dominion war. I'm sick to death of how obvious and back pedalling trek has become. It was an interesting and expanding fictional universe which has now been paired down to basically nothing. You cowards can suck my balls.
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Oct 16, 2007 5:34:04 AM CDT
You treat her like a lady, and she'll always bring you home
by wonderboys
I don't know what to think about this movie anymore... now there are rumors of Karl Urban as McCoy... Karl "Frown" Urban as our beloved Bones!!??
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Simon Pegg!! It's true!!
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Oct 16, 2007 6:08:50 AM CDT
Rebirth OF Star Trek is not meant to be an impersonation show...
by theycallmemrglass
...Leave that for SNL. This is about our favourite characters at academy, not the actors (legendary and irreplaceable though they are admittedly). Bond was played by 5-6 different actors who in essence were all the same character. And of course there are many other examples like Sherlock Holmes etc. don't look for specific Shatner nuances or we will be sorely disappointed. The photo of the actor Chris Pine suggest he can do a flirty mischievous role naturally which is the key characteristic of Kirk. As for Sylar playing Spock, we already know how good he is. Fingers crossed this movie will be a blast!
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Dammit!!!
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Even if it's just him at the start of the film, on an empty set saying "Hi, I'm the real Captain James T. Kirk, what you're about see are the adventures of when I used to be some metrosexual fucking kid. Enjoy!".
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ala... MST3K...
http://tinyurl.com/35plcf
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Genius
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If I actually gave a fuck about Star Trek. But I don't, so I'm not.
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Thanks for the laughs!
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Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the veal!
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Toss a coin, Do it dit dog shit, but quit moaning about having to choose between Hollywood projects like it's a serious, traumatic decision in the greater scheme of world problems!
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Blah blah blah Lost sucks. Blah blah blah wtf were they thinking....blah blah blah smoke monster is really....
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when Roger Moore took over from Sean Connery?
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It simply needs some new and fresh stories. What killed Enterprise wasn't the characters or acting, it was the lame rehashed stories that we were getting every episode. It's too bad the producers didn't figure that out until Season 3 but unfortunately by then, the damage was done.
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YES give nods to the way Shatner played Kirk but a straight impression would stop anyone taking this guy seriously. They need to aim for new fans who don't necessarily know Shatner's Kirk. I can't believe I'm saying 'Shatner's Kirk', since when did we ever think anyone else would be playing him??? I can't wait for the movie but they really are treading on hallowed ground here IMO.
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I'm not imagining it, he's out there! Don't look, he's not out there now. He jumps away whenever anyone might see him, except me.
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are so far the only two casting choices I'm excited about at this point. I think the rest of the casting is just lazy (Cho, Pegg - oh no, kill me, I don't agree with the choice of Pegg). Yelchin (Chekov) shouldn't even be in this one. But if you cast a good actor like Sinise (I know he's old compared to the rest of the cast, but I can't imagine anyone else as McCoy), I'm there. Oh fuck it, I was there when you cast Quinto.
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damn that pic is gay
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Mark my words. Shatner will be in the movie in an unannounced cameo. At the end of the movie, with mission accomplished, Nimoy's Spock will be greeted by Shatner's Kirk. Take it to the bank!
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Patrick Stewart play Macbeth in London. The man is the finest actor ever to have shaved his sideburns into a triangle. Trek was luck to have him.
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but I just can't see anyone else as Kirk, I really can't, sorry! Captain James T. Kirk IS William Shatner. William Shatner IS Captain James T. Kirk. His shoes cannot be filled.
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Oct 16, 2007 7:07:50 AM CDT
They should have Kirk as a balls out madman in academy.
by board shitlez
Problem with Enterprise show was we met the frontier busting originators of starfleet - and they were more staidly conservative and dull than the crew of Enterprise D. They should have been the shoot first lunatics of space travel. People Kirk would want on the wall of his bunk.
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I thought Pine was one of the best things in Smokin' Aces. Sure his part wasn't the most expansive but I loved his character as this outwardly anarchic character but you could see he had a few more cogs turning than the other two guys. Plus his final scene was spot on. Reminded me of Brad Pitt in Kalifornia. I say great casting, this will be his breakthrough role.
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star trek sucks ass
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He may just work...
http://tinyurl.com/378lnj
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More info at: http://stream.plugly.net/2007/09/29/kirk/
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Damn it, Bones!
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That is the single weirdest casting choice I've read in a long, long time. I can just see it: "He looked into the blue diamond, Jim!"
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... a difficult psycho with a massively inflated ego like Shatner. And to Shatner, I mean that as a compliment... only Shatner could've pulled off the role of Kirk back in the day. A role which, let's face it, was of a ridiculous cartoon character. It took a nutcase like Shatner with his goofball, high school drama class faux Shakespearian delivery to play up the silliness of the character, but to also somehow humanize it, and make it believable and even likeable. Diss Shatz all you want, but his Kirk was pure brilliance. This new kid? Who knows, but my guess this whole production's going to be an incredible misfire.
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Oct 16, 2007 8:01:14 AM CDT
when are they gonna have a tb about the Joker origin footage?
by rocklobster800
in front of I Am Legend? I mean its big news EVERYWHERE else....
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Hes a good actor from what Ive seen but I just dont buy him being able to pull of Captain Kirk. Who knows maybe he'll surprise.
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but he has become a bigger star ......
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Didn't see that coming.
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"The original captain of the Enterprise?" Fuck, she doesn't even watch Star Trek and she caught that. Bad omen, y'all - that's like going with a tire salesman whose name is Firestone.
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Trekmovie.com has some serious issues!
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Whoever said it above about the role needing a "manly man" a la Gregory Peck/Kirk Douglas/William Shatner is right. Kirk wasn't arrogant in a prep-school way. Kirk was arrogant in the starting QB/kick the shit out of you/steal your girl and kick sand in your face on the beach way. This guy seems more in the prep-school way, like he belongs on Felicity. Someone feel free to post Youtube video to convince me otherwise, but don't bother with "Smokin' Aces". He was a weenie in that, too - a funny weenie, but a weenie nonetheless.
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interesting choice for Kirk, I reckon he can do it, but is the expectation there for him to do a Shat-attack? As much as I love Shatner's Kirk, It would have to a very subtle affection of his style and of Kirk's inimitable syntax. Cue SNL's Belushi "were it not for this...impending sense of doooom" ;-)
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This Chris Pine guy needs more GRAVITAS.
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I have hope for this movie but casting new actors in familiar characters is a little disconcerting. I still haven't recovered from when they switched Darrens on Bewitched.
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I'm not loving the cast but I'm holding out hope, it might be cool. I really just wanna see the new Enterprise.
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I'm not loving the cast but I'm holding out hope, it might be cool. I really just wanna see the new Enterprise.
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Think about it folks. If script rumors are true - old Spock has to go help Young Spock save Captain Kirk from being killed in the past by Romulans. If they succeed then the only way to know is for Spock to go back to the future and see OLD KIRK! You know Shatner is going to be in it. It's all media hype.
And for no-one knowing Pine - who the hell new Shatner before trek. Minus that Twilight Zone stuff.
Great casting J.J. Keep the faith fans.
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...Shat Attack after reading this news! And, Herc, a little full of ourself, ain't we? Friends don't let friends drink and post...word to YOUR mother.
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You know this to be true.
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Oct 16, 2007 9:27:42 AM CDT
Well, if Pine is Kirk, who the hell is playing Christopher Pike?
by spyguy
Because Pine looks like he would make a much better Pike than he will for Kirk. Oh, and J.J.? How about ditching the "shakycam" this time? You relied on that WAY too much with MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 3.
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and Luke Perry was going to be Spock? That were good times, lads... I think I read it in Patrick Sauriol's Coronca C.A. That web was my first internet love... ahh, the good old times!
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It's a simple rule of three:
If Christopher PiNe = James T. Kirk and Christopher PiKe = X, then Christopher Pike is goint to be played by some guy called James T. NIRK or maybe James T. KIRN. Lets search IMDB -
he looks the part and turning down a roll in white jazz for star trek is what I call super sizing your career choices.
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NOT!
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His gravitas held it all together. If they had cast somebody else the whole deck of cards would have collapsed. BTW tried to watch some episodes of Next Gen last week, it's not holding up well these days. Spiner in particular seems very annoying.
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Exactly.
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gross
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If the plot rumours are true there will barely be a recognizable story or design artifact in the whole sordid fucking mess. The plot will be rigged to ignore all that has gone before. Remember, THIS is the man who believed he had the authority to make Lex Luthor a Kryptonian. The arrogant cunt.
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They are bringing back TJ Hooker, starring Chris Pine!
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...you might like it!
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Heard Simon Pegg will be Montgomery Scott. Is this true?
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I'm really pulling for this movie to work out and to just kick everyone's ass... really... but I'm not beliving it right now though. Not that I don't have faith in these actors or JJ, but Star Trek - the original Star Trek was Shatner, Nimoy, and Kelley. It's going to be so hard to watch this movie and believe that it's really Kirk Spock and Bones. I really want this to work - three years, and six movies were not enough TOS for me.
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A cabbage patch James Marsden? Can anyone really buy this man running -- not just any intergalactic starship, but one specially directed to explore uncharted space? Pegg is the only age appropriate actor in this flick.
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He's a bit too old for this flick. Damn.
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Shat bought the farm at the end of Generations, so unless we are dealing with an alternate timeline where he didn't die, and aged further than his Generations self, I can't see how things will work.
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http://www.kidzworld.com/multimedia/103/chrisp-100.gif
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If the Enterprise is going to be in this movie? I thought we were starting at the crew's Academy days, and the Enterprise wasn't the first ship Kirk served on, it came something like 10 years into his career, according to the books.
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I would rather have an old stoned William Shatner.
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I disagree that there was no talent in later Trek. Ronald D Moore contributed great writing on NG and DS9. Then he went on to reimagine in Battlestar Galactica. Of course, how much "talent" was in the original Trek series, really? The best teleplays were written by Harlan Ellison and Theodore Sturgeon. Roddenberry was not a writer. At all.
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If there is anyone who doesn't think that DS9 rocked, then F you. It was an experimental show at times, visionary, and truly darker than the others, but it was still a good action show when it needed to be. The late, great Michael Piller deserves heaps of respect for creating the show, and Ira Steven Behr gave it an OOMPH that no subsequent Trek show matched.
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Nice one, KINO!
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Just remember who said it first, geeks. Now go get 'im!
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MI 3 was a decent action movie, but my problem with the movie is that there is only one "IMF set up", ie, only one operation that they go through where the entire gag/scam/grift thing is set up and mastered to a point. The old show established a plot, did the set up, and then executed the scheme. The 1st movie is a classic because Brian De Palma used the structure and dumped it on its ass. Making Jim Phelps a bad guy, a totally ballsy crapfuck to continuity, pissed every baby boomer fan boy off. But it was brilliant.
JJ Abrams didn't have that brilliance in MI3. He made it into a soap opera: IMF at home. Good action movie, yes, but it strayed too far. The movies also suffer from a lack of ensemble. Further, Ethan's wife now HAS to be a character in any future movie, HAS to be ignored, or HAS to be killed. Otherwise future sequels are crapola. Though smart in some aspects, MI3 didn't carry it through.
As for the Superman script with Lex Luthor as a kryptonian...sure that would have been shocking, but I remember reading the script synopsis, and it sounded EFFING cool. It turned EVERYTHING on its head. Nothing sacred.
With MI3, perhaps, Abrams was constrained by Tom Cruise: The Man and Tom Cruise: The Idea. He couldn't stray very far from making Cruise like a hunky angel savior, could he?
And the movie showed that Abrams can do action, even if it still feels small screenish.
The problem I have with doing Star Trek Babies is that the reimagining has no balls. Not if it's an alternative time line that has Spock as Future Guy overseeing its restoration. That has been done too many times. If JJ was smart, he'd f*ck up the time line: Have Kirk and crew save the day, but do serious damage to Trek continuity. Just have the balls.
The problem is not just us, the fanboys who revolt at new ideas. Rather, it occurs to me, there is another constant: Paramount. Paramount had no balls with MI3 and rushed out a poor addition to a franchise saddled by ego. Paramount needs to let JJ or whoever just take the reins and make it theirs. No dictates about continuity, no dictates about generation y actors in diapers.
The reason this trek move doesn't feel right: besides slapping all of these pre-teens in a movie when they couldn't have possibly interacted, it feels like a rip off of Terminator. Think about that. JJ can do better.
As for Berman, the Great Dodo Bird of the Galaxy, he ran a grand franchise into the ground. He blew goodwill with ST IX and ST X (insurrection and nemesis). I still cringe at the crappy derivative script from those two movies, ripping off everything that came before them. Killing Data was not right. It was a waste. Better idea? Kill Picard. Just blow him up. That's ballsy.
Enough rants.
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Abrams gave us Lost. We should cherish him at our mantles. Yes, we should be deeply concerned about the state of trek, but come on. Besides, odds are good that we'll have a Captain Greg Grunberg somewhere. And if we have roles filled in by Jennifer Garner and Terry O'Quinn, we'd have some exciting meat to sink our teeth into.
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Why would you be interested in the STAR TREK franchise?! There's no horsefucking.
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And this movie will show that once again.
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Brannon Braga isn't attached to this. No way the new movie could be any worse than the crap he spewed all over the franchise.
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you can begin with trimming down those tribbles he calls eyebrows.
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Oct 16, 2007 1:16:50 PM CDT
No problem with Abrams being a hack.... Trek movies has been hac
by wonderboys
As long as its a exciting hackjob, Im in!
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That's what it really comes down to. If he can play KIRK as KIRK without coming off as playing SHATNER, he'll not only have done the nearly impossible but he'll have brought back one of the great Macho characters of all time. Don't forget, JJ, KIRK is MACHO. Or, as Sean Connery said in The Rock, "Losers always whine about 'their best,' winners go home and fuck the prom queen." That's KIRK. He fucked the prom queen. If you can get that simple idea back up on the screen in a modern movie - good on ya. I'm skeptical - but hopeful.
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NOW this might SUCK.
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Good thing I don't give a shit about Star Trek
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Did I miss something or has the character of Dr. Bones McCoy been deleted from this film ?
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He's easily the best character. At this point if this movie blows it doesn't really matter, because Trek has been on life support for a while now. Hope JJ hits it out of the park but I'm not betting on it.
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J.J. Abrams is one of these Hollywood nerd/geniuses that the studios wet their pants over thinking they have the goose that lays nothing but golden eggs. I thought MI3 was so-so. ALIAS had it's moments but it wasn't landmark TV. When I think of Abrams, I think of his HORRIBLE acting ability--referring to his role in the Will Smith movie SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION. Check it out. See what this pint-sized "genius" does when he's in front of the camera.
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Seriously though there was nothing original about that movie at all I regret burning it before I watched it I'm gonna go home and throw that shit away right now. As for this star trek bullshit who wants to see that lame ass show made into a movie, I'm sure this dickhead abrahms is gonna pull out all the stops and make some cool looking shit but its still gonna be some pussy ass excuse of a real science fiction movie
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who wanted a Superman movie where Krypton wasn't destroyed but in a civil war, Jimmy was gay and Luthor was a CIA agent? Ha haa.
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Mask you are right, JJ Abrams is a talentless nerd that got lucky. Alias, Lost, MI3 = overblown crap! This idea sucks and is pissing all over Star Trek. PS: The Prisoner was a great show and should be made into a film!
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Okay, seriously, is there no one at least halfway jazzed about seeing Star Trek on the big screen again or are you all just the stereotypical internet fanboys who are trying to out-piss each other?
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Oct 16, 2007 4:26:23 PM CDT
I can't believe they didn't get Hayden Christensen for this role
by groorgman
"I don't like sand..."
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JJ Abrams' Star Trek or McG's T4?
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You didn't add JLA!
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Look, I tried to watch Lost, but like I fear Heroes is turning out to be, it's just questions after questions. Never any answers or resolution. It's too deliberately quirky like it's trying to be Twin Peaks on an island, and I fucking hated Twin Peaks too. I don't care how clever the twists are, it's a cheap fake to set up all these mysteries and dangle the answers to get viewers to keep coming back each week.As for Alias, talk about Meh Central! Sure, Jennifer Garner is hot in a sort of, she might actually be kinda cool way, but not supermodel hot. And for the life of me, every episode I caught seem to have the same set up, music, and Garner improbably escaping from many heavily armed dudes with nothing but sheer Girl Power. Only the names of the places and the color of her wigs changed.I wasn't aware that MI:3 was Abrams' work, because that movie sucked so hard it ripped that information out of my head. Fuck you Abrams. Fuck you, and fuck your Star Trek nonsense. Especially because, like Rob "Fuck Him Too" Zombie, you probably will get the money from all the fans of the original who will go see this movie despite they're best interests, all of whom will be probably walk away dissapointed, as was the case with Halloween'07. Not from me though, I work at a movie theatre and get to see all the movies for free!
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I think not. Pine will end up in the space iron lung chair, and we'll get a new better captain.
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Gotta say that Bones has always been my favorite, as well. Met everybody from the original cast except for James Doohan and De Kelley. Would have loved to meet both. Always heard good things, especially about De. BTW, board shitlez, I'm glad you got to see Patrick Stewart recently. How was David "Doctor Who" Tennant? Pat has indicated that he wouldn't mind appearing on Doctor Who. That would be awesome. Not to mention, Ben Kingsley(who will most likely) appear as a pre-wheel chair Davros. Awesome! Only to be ruined by the presence of Catherine Tate as the Doc's companion. :-(
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Knowing how much "credibility" is important to people here, let me take a moment to say that I hated Twin Peaks and I still love the genre. I hated it for the same reasons I grow consistently more weary of Heroes. You must balance mystery with story telling. If a show consists of 98% mystery and 2% revelation, then it's simply not worth my time. I could be looking at internet porn or playing World of Warcraft. But instead, I am scratching my head trying to figure out the nonsense on the screen, nonsense I might add, that can change and become totally different nonsense with a couple of clackity clacks of a scriptwriter's keyboard.It smacks of trying to prolong the series rather than forwarding a decent storyline. It's a fake, and a dodge to keep piling mysteries on top of mysteries, and not good story telling. The writers hold all the cards and can, and do, pull the rug out from underneath our expectations, so that just when we think we've figured anything out, it changes. It's like trying to win a game when the rules keep changing. After a while, you just go home and do something else.
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It's being written by users at Yahoo Answers. They even gave them the idea of what the smoke monster may be. If anybodys idea is used then file the lawsuit. The trouble with Lost is they never expected it to be such a huge hit and now have to go to epic proportions to live up to the hype. Of course it wont be able to but is one of the few good shows on TV at the moment. Curb your enthusiasm, another fave show of mine is beginning to go downhill this season which is worrying.
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Having thought of this AFTER I posted my last talkback, I apologize for the multiple postings. But I thought of an analogy that sums up how I feel about Mysteries and story telling.Mysteries are like a big pile of knotted up string. The author tangles it all up and then throws it to us to unravel. It's hard, and frustrating, but in the end you come out with a straight piece of string. But with Lost and Twin Peaks before it, and most likely Heroes too, the author is constantly knotting up the string you've already straightened out. He's three steps ahead of you and you will never be able to unravel it all. I wouldn't mind if it was one pile of knotted up string that we sort out, and move on to another pile, but working the same mass of knots season in and season out is just frustrating and annoying.
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Sure his eyes look weird... and he seems to had sillicon implanted in his lips... Me dont like...
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How can you say Curb is going downhill THIS season when Season Five was easily the worst five hours of television that any Seinfeld alum has ever had a hand in? Larry moves in with WASP parents and becomes a Christian?!? Larry gives away a kidney?!? Larry fucking DIES and goes to HEAVEN?!? Yeah, the black family moving in definitely pushes the model of the first four seasons, but it's nowhere near as bad as Season Five, which makes that Michael Richards detective show look like fucking Barney Miller.
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...since the drama club beat the football team at the club Olympics back in high school. I lost count of the "faggot", "gay" and "metrosexual" comments... if this were a drinking game, I'd be shit-faced.
The kid's looks bother me. He's pretty, and that doesn't always bode well (Ryan Phillippe excluded.) And I haven't seen him act. So yeah, I'm skeptical. But really... let's just assume for a second that the dude tested well and reserve throwing our rotten vegetables until the premiere. -
At least make it something like Chris Butchersmith
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but he looks fine for the part. As long as he can do comedy, things should be peachy. And no... I'm not saying Kirk should be a joke, but Shatners comic chops wer put to good use in TOS. Some would say both intentionally and unintentionally
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Harvey Weinstein for Harry Mudd.
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Nick Frost as Harry Mudd and Bill Nighy as either Cochrane or Spock's dad.
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Can you tell us more about what you know about Shatner being in this film? Don't leave us hanging brother.
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You guys will still cry like a bunch of babies no matter what acting choices this kid makes. My advice to him (as if he has the time to read any of this junk) is... be yourself and forget about the "Kirk" legacy. There's only one Shatner and it would be pointless to ape his performing style.
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TheBladehelm: I agree with you what you say about TV drama. It's usually feels like a neverending story and they mostly just make it up as they go along (not strictly true of course, season story arcs are planned way in advance, but that's what it feels like). I got bored after 3 episodes of 24, Prison Break, Life on Mars or whatever other tv show has been popular these past few years. Lost I haven't watched, ever. Heroes, I've watched half the first episode.
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...looks and acts like a friggin PUNK??!! I miss the actors of yesteryear.
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didn't he die on one of those shitty movies?
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Isnt the average age of prime time TV viewers like...56 or something? Nobody watches TV anymore...all these commercials on Fox, NBC, and CBS using stupid lines like "see the show evetyone is talking about" or "experience the drama".....EVERYONE? Who's that?? DRAMA?? Who gives a crap??....Internet 4 life.
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This is like choosing an actor other than Harrison Ford to play Han Solo or Indiana Jones. Like choosing an actor other than Sylvester Stallone to play Rocky. Like choosing an actor other than Clint Eastwood to play Dirty Harry. IT CAN'T BE FUCKING DONE! PERIOD! Get that through your thick skull, JJ Abrams, you fucking hack!
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Nobody can discuss anything in there with that Talkback Death guy flooding the talkback.
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He would have been perfect. Instead they cast some 20 something kid? Is this dude J.J casting for tv? Whats with all the teeny bopper casting?
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Damon would have been PERFECT! I just can't see this Guy as Kirk...I'm now depressed.
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Season 5 was worse than what we've seen so far in Season 6, I agree. Even at it's worst though, Curb is still funnier than most live action comedy shows. Which says something about comedy on television these days. How the fuck Cavemen even got to air is beyond me. If I was one of the writers on Cavemen, I would never admit to it in public and take it to my grave as one of the most evil sins against humanity in life.
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Oct 17, 2007 11:30:42 AM CDT
Imagine what might have been if the Trek movies had had balls
by mutant leader
Imagine what might have been if, as a letter in STARLOG
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Make it stop. KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why does everyone have to look like they are off the Dawson's Creek these days? Pine looks like all American boy No.231 (forgetable) I really hope that Pine doesn't have that whiney/fem young adult voice you hear in US productions-Shat always brought a certain gravitas to the role. Haven't seen Pine in anything but they better be sure that they picked the right guy as if Kirk is shit, the rest won't matter a fuck.
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Oct 17, 2007 3:06:00 PM CDT
Apparently, in this movie Pine plays a romulan clone of Kirk
by wonderboys
Eric Bana plays his buddy, who can telephatically rape Chekov's ass in the Enterprise showers. At this time Chekov is just married with Scotty and they held a ceremony in the nude in the highlands, as his traditional in Scotland...
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Sorry. He looks like he belongs on a soap opera, not Star Trek.
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He just has to lay in the producers' bed.
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This was shot this afternoon:
http://www.livevideo.com/video/ShatnerVision/9498198D549B4433B3AEAA80FC9033CA/is-william-shatner-in-the-new-.aspx
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From the man himself. Don't be a tool for Paramount's propaganda, Herc.
http://tinyurl.com/26tjk5
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If Shatner is going along with this idea that he's pissed about not being in the Star Trek movie, then he would obviously claim that what Herc said was not true! Should I call a nurse to hold your drool cup?
Abrams is all about this cloak and dagger bullshit, keeping the fans guessing and making it all a big mystery. You think Herc is close to this project and then randomly decided to let something like this slip? Bullshit. Herc and the studio stooges planned this shit, I'd bet. It's all a part of some big mystery (not unlike the 01-18-08 thing) that will keep fans on their toes asking, "will he? won't he?" to pump up publicity for the film. Shatner says that it doesn't make sense for him not to return because you'd think he'd be great publicity for the movie. Uh. Well, every time you see him on any talk show or any media forum, he's BITCHING about not being in the new STAR TREK movie. For someone who "doesn't have anything to do with Star Trek", he sure is grinding it into our faces. The man is on a very successful television series right now. You think he would actually be worried about being in the new Star Trek film if he actually WASN'T!? Of course, it could be possible he's gearing publicity up to make us think he is when he actually isn't. That's the genius of this whole charade. He could be getting paid by paramount to bitch about Paramount. Fucked up, but effective. In either case, I'm very skeptical about this movie. I don't really care for Karl Urban as any character, and Chris Pine isn't Kirk. This will be like watching New Voyages with a bigger budget, if you ask me.
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Sorry, no secret studio conspiracy there. The Shat ain't good enough an actor to put on the sour grapes performance that he did in that video. That was a video of a man begging for a job.
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Hm. Nope, still thinking you're wrong. Shatner's got a flare for the dramatic, but the man can act if he wants to. He doesn't need a job, either. He has one on a hit TV show, and is doing just fine. This is all part of a massive scheme. And if it's not? Well GOOD. I don't want to see Shatner's bloated face in this film anyway.
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'Nuff said, true believers. Excelsior!
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Yes, we shall.
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More sour grapes about being left out of the movie...
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Ahhh, the "disinformation campaign" continues... LOL
http://tinyurl.com/2rxcs4
If Abrahams keeps ignoring Shatner, he'll have a public relations nightmare with Trek 90210.
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