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The Roundly Disgusting Kuato Spews STAR WARS TV Series Goodness!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Merrick here...
..with some newly emerged details about the STAR WARS television series we’ve been hearing about. I’m referring to the live action project…which’ll come around AFTER the upcoming CGI series.
This news comes to us via the highly trusted Kuato, who has taken up a singularly unseemly residence on Harry’s belly. It was difficult to understand everything Kuato said…I couldn’t make out every word through so much slobber and rasping. I hate talking to Kuato; it's gnarly and it's a pain in the ass. But here, for your consideration, is part of what I gleaned:
We’ve previous been told the television series will be set between movie episodes III and IV, but we didn’t know much about what to expect beyond that. Kuato illuminated: we’ll get a little bit of everything in the show; the series very much embraces the broad scope of the STAR WARS universe. For example, we'll revisit Pod Races, and the characters and shenanigans/politics the events bring with them. Kuato said that one of the racer characters is someone we were actually introduced to a long, long time ago: his name is Thall Joben. This name sounded familiar to me, but I couldn’t quite place it. I looked him up. Turns out, we met him in episodes of the DROIDS animated series.
We’ll also see Rebel bases and Imperial Star Destroyers. Actually, Kuato believes Imperials will be everywhere in the new show - undercover operatives, Imperial Officers of all makes and ambitions, and nearly all of them will be afraid of Darth Vader.
There will be several instances in which characters are related to, or progenitors of, other characters in both the STAR WARS film universe & the franchise’s “Expanded Universe” (or “Extended Universe” if you prefer). One such character is a straight-laced Rebel with the last name Naberre…Padme’s last name in the Prequels was Naberre. I was a little confused here, but I believe this guy is supposed to be in his 20s…which would (presumably) make him related to Padme in some way. One Rebel General evidently carries the last name Durron – his placement in the STAR WARS timeline likely makes him the father of a character named Kyp Durron, who appears in several STAR WARS EU novels. Also, Kuato insinuated we’ll come across ("at least") one Mandalorian bad-ass in the course of the series.
Kuato chuckled manically about the following…he sounded like Clint Howard at the end of “The Corbomite Maneuver”. He laughed so hard he could hardly talk (this made Harry’s belly jiggle in disquieting ways). Seems one character is spun off from (or may be the same character as?) Lucas’ own cameo in REVENGE OF THE SITH’s Coruscant Opera House sequence. Lucas’s character in that cameo (he had no dialogue) was called Barron Papanoida. The series brings us…General Papanoida.
Hmmmmm….
Which brought Kuato to what most fans are really curious about: which FILM characters, if any, will make their ways into the series? He said there are several, among them are the prominently featured Bib Fortuna (Jabba’s right-hand man) and Oola the dancing girl (the green babe who was jettisoned from Jabba’s court to become a Rancor munchie). Kuato said the series will also involve the ever coveted, always inconvenient, vitally critical Death Star plans - although he did not indicate to what extent they’d be featured.
Kuato quickly became sleepy, but before he nodded off completely he told me that one significant way the series will be different from the movies is in how its character react to what is happening around them. He says the series will be less “good guy/ bad guy” in nature & offer far more insight into what makes characters tick, why they feel what they feel, where they’re coming from, and so forth. This will be true for good guys and bad guys alike. I’m gathering this means the series may be more nuanced & emotionally accessible than the theatrical films often were (I’m specifically referring to the Prequels with this comment). I have heard, independently of Kuato, that this does NOT mean action and fun are being viewed as expendable here. In fact, I’m told the overall tone of the show is rather close to the adventurous nature of EPISODEs IV, V, and VI…just a little edgier.
And off went poor Kuato, back to his scuzzy hidey-hole in Harry’s mighty belly…whispering…murmuring…snippets here and there...info crumbs, really…something about Boba Fett…should be in his 20s in this series…angsty…disenfranchised…and simmering…
There was more…difficult to interpret at best. Perhaps in time...perhaps.
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As Video Game cut-scenes. I think I'm finally done with this franchise.
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On what channel will this be?
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will there be women in gold bikinis, that the real question.
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and less of a goodguy/badguy feel? this MUST mean that Lucas isn't writing it! YAY!
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(Just kidding)
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Nice info and I will continually look forward to this show until 2009! YIPPEE! Mandalorian badasses? Nice.
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Oct 15, 2007 10:23:29 PM CDT
stop whinning sound like little bitches, ooh their not putting
by greekloveropa
like you guys arent gonna watch cause you got SO many better things to do
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and just make a series based on Legacy or Knights of the old republic.Those comics are wayyy better then the prequels,which is sad.
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Really. Lucas lost me with the prequels. III was a step in the right direction but everything from tampering with the originals to the terrible prequels pretty much killed Star Wars for me and that sucks. I know we always hear about our childhoods getting raped but really Lucas did fuck us and there is no way around it. He cheapened IMO an iconic franchise that was beloved and stole it back in a selfish manner leaving us with a shell of what it once was. I used to get excited about anything Star Wars related. Hell I even bought the Vader PSP because well it was Vader. But my interest for anything new that Lucas brings to the table is at a zero. I pretty much want to forget that the prequels ever happened and go back to the days when not knowing the mystery made it all so much more interesting in speculation.
From the sounds of it this TV series pretty much sounds like ass. I guess it's a wait and see but count me out in the excitement department because Lucas lost that in me a long long time ago. -
...that Yoda made up the midi-chlorians as a bad joke.
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In the end, A New Hope was just a fairy tale, however marvelous, and Return of the Jedi was a two hour Kenner commercial. I understand if you think the PT didn't warrant an emotional investment comparable, but let's cut the crap...AOTC had more meat on its bones than the first three combined.
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Oct 15, 2007 10:36:11 PM CDT
CHICAGO BLADE RUNNER FANS! NOVEMBER 2, 2007 IT WILL OPEN HERE!!!
by wackybantha
http://www.musicboxtheatre.com /comingsoon.html
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Oct 15, 2007 10:36:46 PM CDT
It's free... I'll watch it. Besides if planet of Twi'leks are fe
by kikuchiyoboy
That's like the planet of fine asses and cleavage. What's the deal with that.
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And don't forget the four-armed Julia Child. Harvey Korman gotta eat!!!
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that is all.
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It has potential to be good, it'll be like a war and ocupation story all in one. Think of all the WW2 movies about the Nazis just stormrolling Europe and the French resistant fighting those crazy numbers. It could be cool. The of course you'll have the who people trying to live in occupied territory thing going like that series "Island At War" where the Nazis take that island and lets everyday life go on just constantly under the threat of death. It'll be interesting seeing guys from occcupied territories indoctrinated into the Empire or just joining so they won't be overrun or for a job as the wartime economy falls apart. Oh, and of course some Cold War type spying. They could make this pretty harsh with good writing.
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He'll start and end every episode by running into/out of the frame. Check him out: http://tinyurl.com/85guo
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A bunch of ugnaughts working in some backroom factory in Cloud City? It practically writes itself!
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I love Star Wars and the universe Lucas created. I'm always excited about new chances to spend time in it. As for the prequels... I liked TPM the first time I saw it, hated it more and more on repeat viewings until recently. The last time I watched it, I really enjoyed it. Save Jar Jar, of course. AotC nearly bored me to sleep last time I watched it, and I still really like Revenge.
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....that warns Annie to get inside because of the coming sandstorm? Well, I hope there's a whole episode set aside to tell her story 'cause frankly I'm interested. Does she marry Watto? Who knows? And if the show incorporates flashbacks, LOST style, even better. Seriously! Don't you ever look at old people and wonder what they were like in their younger days? Maybe they were sluts.
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The music died the day midicloreans and jar-jar popped into Lucas' brain. The rest of this is all this a horrible languishing death. The saddest part of this, to me, is that there is so much an *appearance* of history and depth in this universe, but in reality there isn't. It's just random, unplanned, tacked on filler. I want so badly to care about star wars. I really do.
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Who will have the Black Lightsaber?
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Say what you will about the EU stories...they're damn near all better than the prequels*.
(*Crystal star and Courtship of Princess Leia excepted)
What I wouldn't give for a Rogue/Wraith squadron TV show. It'd be Airwolf + A-team + space = awesome. -
Free Marrrrrssssssss.........!!!!!
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I really find it hard to believe how people can still get excited by news like this. Granted, it is Star Wars, but that also means that Lucas is guiding the ship, and in my eyes, that is just not acceptable. As someone noted above, it is rather cliche to say that your childhood has been raped, but Lucas really did it. The guy can't tell a story... its obvious that he is just in it for the money. On the other hand, he has to know about how poorly Science Fiction does on television (as a general rule) so lets hope he actually works to make this good because without the fan boys, he's fucked. Unless he markets it completely to little kids. Which is probably what he will do.
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I don't know -- I have real doubts that Lucas would endorse a series that, shockingly, makes so many well thought-out connections to other characters throughout the movies and other media (comics, animated series, etc.). It doesn't seem like he cares much about the expanded universe elements. He pretty much canceled a lot of them in the Prequels.
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Give my channel some love!!!! http://tinyurl.com/yug838
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but I'm done with the Lucasarts media money machine. No figures, ships, books, comics, PC games, console games, magazines, posters, electronic lightsabers, 500 dollar Sideshow statues, any of that. That shit has ruined Star Wars. I'll just watch it, follow it, maybe buy the live-action DVD sets IF they're good, and of course I'll show up here, IMDB and theforce.net to hate on the EU, cause that's how I do.
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am i right haters, or am i right!
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How much of a nerd am I?
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Geez...
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She's about the same age as Luke so it would be interesting if kid Luke showed up passing a kid Mara on Tatooine.
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The "Heir to the Empire" saga is some of the best Star Wars stuff I've read after the original trilogy (pity it's outside the series' timeline). Admittedly, there's a lot of crap in there, but there are lots of nice space yarns in the EU.
Also a lot of the jedi-related stories set in the Old Republic were better than a comic tie-in deserves to be (sorry, I forgot the series name, it's been a hell of a lot of time).
Mind, I'm not holding my hopes very up, but if they got it right, first Galactica season style, we are in for a treat. -
Is it possible to use paragraph breaks in this thing?
And I think the old jedi comic series was called "Tales of the Jedi". -
Oct 15, 2007 11:32:01 PM CDT
You know if Star Wars is so awful and your childhood is already
by darthcorleone
...what have you got to lose? I'll give this show a chance. And I'd rather a series that delves into ancillary characters and fleshes out the depths of a universe that has innumerable depths to plumb than something that messes with the established principal characters and screws up the already tenuous canon. I don't know what y'all are complaining about there - would you rather have a television series that completely ruins your concept of Han Solo once and for all? Fuck, people, whatever they give us, it sure won't be worse than the Holiday Special.
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You know what else was said to be like Episodes 4,5,& 6, but just a little edgier? I'll give you three guesses but the first two don't count.
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I hope Grand Admiral Thrawn is one of the shows baddies, he could be a kick-ass character.
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I really love the novels, if they have that flavor or something like my previous post it would rule. I jumped into the EU with the novels "Shadows Of The Empire" then right into AC Crispin's "Han Solo Trilogy" then from there a whole bunch more. It's a rich universe of amazing stories and if handled with the gravitas of a story set during a huge war/occupation it will be amazing.
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if it has Yaddle in it (ie sexy Yoda). Wiki her.
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My credo: If Palpatine, Anakin/Vader, Padme, Luke, or Leia aren't in it, I could care less. (But let me know if Tarkin makes an appearance.)
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How about several years/decades after Return of the Jedi? Maybe from the perspective of a new Padwan with a Master trained by Skywalker himself? Instead of re-writing the bit-players from the original trilogy, how about expanding the universe beyond the graphic novels and printed pages?
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...i will attest that there is a significant amount of crap out there, but there is also a lot of great material. Anyone who pans the whole line obviously hasn't read much of it. As one talkbacker posted above, the Rogue and Wraith Squadron novels are particularly good, introducing dozens of pretty solid new characters over the course of nine novels and dozens of comics. And the original Zahn Trilogy was amazing (although his newer stuff is crap). I'd say overall, teh EU is 75% solid storytelling, 25% utter shit that I'm embarrassed to have read.
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Make them or make nothing at all. End of line.
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The less they rely on the EU the better. They need to do their own thing and create their own universe instead of using material from the books.
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There was an item on their news crawl that said George Lucas will soon interview writers for the live action series. So unless this source is very close to Lucas, they haven't even started to write the show in which in an interview Lucas said they will probably film at least a season's worth before it ever airs.
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Damn, he only said that some of the characters names would be the same as EU characters. I liked the Zahn books a lot, the Heir to the Empire, DFR, Last Command. The rest you can take or leave. I'll watch it cause it's Star Wars, yes. If I don't like it I won't watch anymore, but I can't automatically dismiss something so far in the uncertain future...oh, I forgot, thats what talkback is for.
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Why are they still floating about? Shit, Palpatine needs a fucking vault and a padlock.
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Okay, I'm going to go back to bed now and pretend that it was all just a bad dream when I read the words "angsty" and "disenfranchised" in the same sentence as "Boba Fett".
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They're making Star Trek again, aren't they?
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...in the same way that a big nutty turd is more nuanced than a diamond...
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All the original trilogy fans know what i'm talking about. And all you stupid kids who don't remember the originals should be quiet and let the grown ups talk.
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So many people hate the prequels. Don't get me wrong- I do too, but no one ever talks about why they detest them so much. No one ever explains their reasons for hating it, just that they sucked. My biggest gripe was the script- the dialog was absolutely fucking horrendous. It was shit. Plain and simple, it was shit.
"Padmé: Anakin, all I want is your love.
Anakin Skywalker: Love won't save you, Padme! Only my new powers can do that!"
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For cryin' out loud George can we please get some new shit to look at. How many fuckin' times can we revisit this shit? I got an idea, instead of wasting money on more prequel garbage how about creating an all new series; with new characters and stories. Is that so hard? Why da hell are we still in the past?! NO MORE FUCKIN' PREQUELS!!! For the love of God can we please see some new shit! Damn.
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make him all emo. At least the pod races will be back...wait, oh.
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Oct 16, 2007 2:48:13 AM CDT
Does Harry owe Merrick his life? Does Merrick know anything abou
by silentbobafett2
But I for one am totally totally totally up for this series! ::-)
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was the way for the series to go. With cameos from an old General Skywalker played by Hamill. Ah well. Lucasfilm doesn't have a good track record with TV series but i'll keep an open mind until I see it.
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I just don't care anymore after those inept prequels. How could the classic trilogy be so good as to inspire a generation. While the prequels were bad enough to destroy all the good the original films did?
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Wish we could bet on the pod racing
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He was a bad motherfucker
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I´m a happy individual.
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I'll be happy. Zeltrons, Nagai, Hoojibs, Tagge Family, Shira Brie....bring 'em on. Marvel Haters? Go read some Kevin J. Anderson SHIT and fuck yourselves.
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Oct 16, 2007 3:34:42 AM CDT
I have no interest in anything that uses the prequels as canon
by industrykiller!
Because they aren't how the story goes. George Lucas got his own story wrong. He literally contradicts the original trilogies for the sake of the prequels, which are horrible on almost every level of filmmaking. I don't know how you can make three movies with only ONE decent scene between them.
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Slave Leia was the only thing that piece of shit had going for it. Boy, you Holy Trilogy fans are wonders, lapping up Jabba's 30 minute muppet show and reaching for the hankies when the mass murderer/torturer gets his super-happy redemption, yet miraculously drawing the line with Jar Jar and midicholorians.
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Sounds to me that they'll be spending way too much time on Tatooine again, which was one of the many things about the prequels that bored the audience to death.
They really need to explore the dark unseen fringes of the Star Wars universe as hinted at in the Original Trilogy, instead of re-visiting the goofy multi-coloured kiddie things that bored us to tears from the prequels. Who the fuck cares about seeing Jabba's people yet again? His appearance in The Phantom Menace already removed every shred of threat that the character once had. -
sebulba could be cool, just do cerebus, with sebulba becoming a planet's king, losing his royalness in a bet and generally being weird and funky.
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You wait til you see the scene where Young Boba Fett and the Pyramid of Fear (or fucking whatever) is dancing down the road. Badly. A la SPIDEY 3.
That's some George Lucas shit, right there.
I'm still going to watch. My self-loathing level is at an all-time high. -
Yep, at the end of AOTC Palpatine has them - but there's many a slip twixt a cup and a lip. Princess Leia is putting the plans into R2-D2 at the very beginning of SW4: A NEW HOPE, so she got them from somewhere - but where? THAT will probably be the start of an interesting season. This series could rock, y'know.
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We're making a TV Show! With all your favourite characters. It won't be like the prequels, no, no, no. It will be dark and edgy like the other films. You know, the ones you really like? Well that's exactly how good the TV show will be and you'll love it just as much. Hey sourpuss, what's with that face? Has uncle George ever let you down before?
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We need Hadji (hedgehog guy) and the Big Green Rabbit - can't remember who he was.
Do you remember the story of what happened to Janson - Wedge's tail gunner at the battle of Hoth? He got left behind when the Rebels evacuated... and his survival story would be the best bottle episode they could come up with for this show. Fucking golden. -
He's going back to the well - George Lucas gotta eat, you know. He may not look like it, with that great big swinging gizzard, but he does.
He did try another series - but then no-one wanted a WILLOW franchise. Shame really, because the book sequels were alright.
More STAR WARS is a good, good thing - if Lucas is kept as far away from the actual making of it as possible. Evidence exhibit A: the CLONE WARS cartoons. Let someone else write and direct, and this will be awesome. -
Get INSPIRED. Why is Lucasfilm such a fucking JOKE nowadays ? Seriously, MORE prequel material ? Are these guys on a completely different realm from the general public ? It is UNIVERSALLY accepted by almost EVERYBODY over the age of 12 that the prequels were completely awful. People watched them because it was Star Wars and they couldn't give up hope on it. No one has any hope for this, eys they will watch the pilot and a few subsequent episodes but this is almost guaranteed to be a train wreck!
People are SICK TO FUCK of the FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT NOT ENTERTAINING prequel universe! How can they use the worst, WORST elements of Star Wars and expand it into not one but TWO TV SHOWS! It boggles the mind...I mean is this even possible ? And revisiting pod races ? You CAN'T BE SERIOUS. The pod races were fucking lame on all levels bar special effects. I mean they actually sum up in a few minutes the problem with the entire 10 years of prequel bullshit: Far too much effort put into special fx and character appearances with almost zero effort put into story and character development/relevance.
STOP USING THE PREQUEL TRILOGY. THE PREQUEL TRILOGY WAS COMPLETELY AWFUL. START A NEW STORY WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY CARE. WE ALL KNOW HOW IT ENDS SO START SOMEWHERE NEW. WHAAAAT THAAAAAAAAA FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
Mark my muthafrakkin`words, Muthafrakkers!
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wtf was that? write something comprehendible.
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Oct 16, 2007 6:15:03 AM CDT
JMS, the creator of Babylon 5, is set to be the showrunner. Dill
by teh man of stool
Comprendo?
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Just concluding the subject line.
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And why do you not know JMS and the expression "frak"?
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this story in ununderstandingable.
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The Adventures of Han, Lando & Chewie! I don't want more boring peripheral characters! Fuck off Lucas!!
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A beautiful fantasy lore is turned into a boring procedural Sci-Fi. Sci-Fi fans, sacrificing quality for quantity since 1965!
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Oct 16, 2007 6:40:42 AM CDT
I really can't figure out if the prequels are good or bad anymor
by kwisatzhaderach
but the most annoying thing about them was every shot has a slight zooming in, WTF was Tattersall doing? Has anyone else noticed this?
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This show will not be shot in a desert or jungle, it will be shot in a big green box and, therefore, look shit.
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I hope we finally find out how many Jedis it takes to make a Space Quorum and maybe we'll get to see that historic filibuster where Yoda tried to keep Sgt Kodo from voting payraises to the Stormtroopers on Vega 17.
The prequels ruined this franchise. If they did a series in the same time period as the Knights of the Old Republic video game and Lucas wasn't involved, then I might watch, though... -
I don't care how reputable this source may be. I know a lot about Star Wars, not just the geeky Wookieepedia stuff, but I know some of the folks who've worked with Lucasfilm. First, we've only now gotten info about Lucas meeting with writers, so I doubt they've gotten so far into the episode writing process. Also, I highly doubt we'll see this Droids cartoon character. Not that George hasn't trampled upon his own continuity in the past, but they make a point that Anakin -- at least at the point of Episode I -- was the only human who could actually fly a pod racer. I doubt the use of such a "Expanded Universe"-specific character. Granted, this is not being written by Lucas, but during the prequels, he showed little interest in using novel, comic, etc, sources. With a few exceptions. Naming some guy "Durron" after another character who GL probably has next to no knowledge of seems unlikel, too. Now, if this all comes to pass, I may be proven completely wrong. But this all sounds suspiciously wrong to me.
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I can remember a time when it was extremely easy to hold Star Wars up as one of the best Science Fiction stories ever (yeah, sure, it was HEAVILY influenced by the Dune novels, but it was still cool). And it was embarrassingly easy to destroy any Star Trek geek who tried to argue that Trek was better than Star Wars (Ok, it's true that Return of the Jedi mostly sucked, but the first two movies more than made up for it). Even the Ewok movies weren't enough to destroy the quality of Star Wars because they were so easy to simply ignore (like the Christmas Special was). Unfortunately, George Lucas somehow got it in his mind that he needed to make Star Wars just as silly and campy as Star Trek. What has happened to Lucas' mind? I don't recall any report that he suffered any sort of stroke or emotional breakdown. Although, it's quite possible he cracked after the failure of "More American Graffiti". That seems to be around the same time that he started to devote himself to making campy crap instead of quality stories.
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In which this band of religious extremists (who believe strongly in their genetic superiority) inspire a mass of puddy minded rabble to rebel against the forces of order and eventually destroy one of their massive symbols?
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They were my two favorite characters in the films!! Lucas must've received all my letters over the years. Hopefully he'll do my Bib Fortuna feature length Summer tentpole idea too! Man, I cannot wait for this series now. Bib Fortuna and Oola ... now the Star Wars Universe is finally coming into focus for fans everywhere.
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Now there's your protagonist.
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would be better.
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The name and concept of Coruscant. The Jedi Aayla Secura. Quinlan Vos gets a mention. A few background ships are from novels and comics and stuff. But, uh, I think that's about it.
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... Star Wars European Union??? Whatever... you nerds are crazy! So this new series takes place between Episode 3 and 4? A time in which all the Jedi had been exterminated or were in hiding (well, Obi Wan and Yoda, anyway). So... no Jedi... no lightsabre duels. No lightsabre duels=LAMENESS! Yeah... I'll be sure to tune in for the further adventures of Oola, the dancing girl, Padme's little brother and Boba Fett's irritating pet muppet... rrrriiiight!
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...Star Wars had remaining was permanently destroyed in the summer of 1999 when the word "midichlorian" was first uttered by Liam Neeson (great actor, but he'll NEVER live that one down!)
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Someone up there suggested a great concept for this show wherein the Empire has taken over and is expanding a la the Nazi push for lebensraum in WWII. All kinds of good storytelling possibilities for smugglers, neutrals caught in the middle, desperate people making bad choices, and my personal favorite intruiging idea is seeing the refugees from the Jedi Purge a la the Jews fleeing Germany. The Diary of Yoda Frank anybody?
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After suffering through 2/3rds of that "Star by Star", NJO crapfest only to find Chewie dead. The one character that was routinely shafted the most in the damn EU fiction in the first place. Never finished the book. Shoulda killed Luke off long ago, let him do the Obi-Wan thing.
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IG-88...
by Dingbatty Oct 16th, 2007
07:39:01 AM
Now there's your protagonist.
Hell yeah.
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You ain't getting laid-iverse.
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should be assembled to put Star Wars back in it's rightful place at the top of action Sci Fi. They need to do something totally unexpected not this hangover from the prequels shit. Something totally new like, 1 billion years after the Return of the Jedi just something totally and completely its own thing. This way the originals can not be tarnished further and the prequels can be forgotten.
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that discription makes this series sound like complete tripe. :(
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might your other name be...SUPERSHADOW???
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might your other name be...SUPERSHADOW???
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...but it sure smells good!
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You suckers are hooked for the rest of miserable lives. TV shows, DVD boxsets, rereleased 3-D and HD OT. And the merchandise! You'll have to get another house just hold all that useless shit.
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Coming from a guy called Laserbrain that's rich! Read the talkback people here are against this TV Show. Lucas needs to face it, after the prequels Star Wars has started to lose it's core audience and there just isn't enough substance to the new film to make the new generations (kids) come back for more. They're all about Harry Potter now.
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Enough, repeat: ENOUGH with the "George Lucas raped my childhood" bullsht. Do you know how utterly pathetic you losers sound? If the happiness, or worse, very substance of your childhood is predicated on three damn movies you saw, you truly lead a sad, sad existence. Bitch about the prequels all you want, it's not like there's a lack of valid reasons to do so, but the incessant demonizing of George Lucas is exactly why the world has mocked Star Wars fans for the last three decades--because they're largely compulsive, needy, awkward, yet strangely arrogant little bastards who have devoted a nearly religious attention to an overhyped act of fiction...hmm, kind of reminds me of modern Christians.
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His God-awful prequels have exhausted all of my patience with him. I hope to never see another Star Wars themed book/film/tv show/comic book/lunch box/action figure/video game. He can take his shitty movies and merchandise and shove them up his ass. He's dead to me.
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no matter what.star wars is king.it has everything. if it has aliens i'm there. if it has a depressing feel with the nazi empire keeping all the space citizens down i'm there. if it has storm troopers and clone troopers walking and talking about the latest model of space car i'm there. if it has cool bounty hunters, smuglers and space pirates i'm there. floating cars, hot sexy alien babes and midgets i will deffinately be there. ok no jedi, but maybe one or two jedi will show up. who knows. plus they said they're open to do spinoffs in a recent artical i read. and i bet a sequel show or a pre-pre prequel show isn't out of the question.
on another note i liked the droids cartoons. the ones they legiamately releases were ok, but the other ones, that aren't out yet were kinda cool, with boba, darth vader and storm troopers all making appearences. and theres about 5 of them, all put together its about 5 hour and a half to 2 hour movies, plus clone was put together is like 2 hrs and 10 minutes, so you got like 6 star wars movies right there.
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Everyone will sneaking around to steal the Death Star plans off each other, like the Fallen Madonna With The Big Boobies, and they will end up hidden in a big bratwurst which somehow ends up being mistaken for Darth Vader's cock. I can't wait!
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...3 &4? Why limit the scope of what this series can do, & where it can go, when there is a substantial amount of material to work w/ that is either post-Return of the Jedi or pre-Phantom Menace?
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The concept of Coruscant came from Lucas, the name came from the novels. And GL liked the look of Aayla Secura when he saw her on the cover of a comic, but probably didn't care about the actual character. But, enough of my silly fanboy corrections... I'm still callin' bullshit on this stuff.This show should be about some fugitive Jedi hiding out and on the run from the Empire, who have also put out a standing order that bounty hunters can hunt them down, too. They try to stay in hiding, find some folks to help them, get involved with the early Rebels, etc. Then, you have a special two-part episode or a cliffhanger where Darth Vader appears and kills some characters. Another special guest starring episode would then have Jimmy Smits show up. And maybe if someone can convince Ewan McGregor to show up, he can be on a very special episode, too. Unfortunately, I have a feeling this will be some theme we weren't expecting at all.
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I'd love to see this series FOCUS on some interesting character from the original series. I think it would be incredibly cool for it to be Lando C. You'd be able to explore his rise, his schemes and flirtations with the Empire. You'd also be able to have him occasionally run in to Han Solo and the rebels as well.
This just seems way all over the place and contrived. I think if Lucas gave us one character we already LOVED he's be able to pull it off. Padme's second cousin? Lord Poo-bah - please.
PS - if it was done with Lando, you could have him flying around in the Millennium Falcon which is a total SILF (spaceship I'd like to f*ck). -
IF we're lucky. This will be better than at least ep's 1 and 2, and maybe slightly better than ep 3 or Jedi. As for the use of EU characters. I figure it will just be a little nod here and there at best. The Papanoida character? Who cares. Some have argued that there should be more focus on the classic "younger version" characters. Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. Would be nice to see Vader, if scripted along the lines of the OT. And, some Tarkin would be great. As you may recall, a big deal was made about Wayne "Scorpius"(from Farscape) Pygram being Tarkin in ep. 3 including all of those groovy comparison head shots of Pygram and Cushing. In the end, all we got was a distant shot of Pygram as Tarkin that could have easily been cg'd. If we're going to capitalize on some OT goodness, Tarkin and the gradual evolution to the Stormtroopers, TIE's, X-wings, etc. would be the way to go. Boba Fett, if handled well, would be great. All of that said, scripting, writing, directing, and acting has to be superior to everything else. Somebody commented earlier that the acting on the 1978 Battlestar and Buck Rogers was superior to the prequels. Yes, and no. I'm an ardent defender, despite some cheese, of the 78 Battlestar. And yes, Richard Hatch, Dirk Benedict, Lorne Greene, Herbert Jefferson, Jr., and some of the other guest stars were better in their roles than some of the prequel actors were in their's(i.e. Portman, Christensen, and Lloyd). I'm not saying that Dirk Benedict is an overall better actor than let's say Portman, when looking at her entire body of work. However, almost anybody on the old Battlestar characters exhibited more emotion, and spunk than even some of the good prequel actors. As for Buck Rogers(which was almost 100 percent pure cheese), at least Gil Gerard and a few other actors emoted. I'm not putting G. Gerard over McGregor, Neeson, and McDiarmid. The Gerard comparison is intended more for Portman, Lloyd, and Christensen once again). I'd better stop while I'm ahead. hehe Let the debate begin! *in Ackbar's voice* "And, may the force be with us"
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Nice to hear from a Spinal Tap fan(for those not in the know, the band's manager said, "F#ck the napkin") and an Allo' Allo' fan. The new SW series mirroring AA would be hillarious. If you haven't seen that great 1980's British World War II sitcom(in German-occupied France), check it out.
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Get Mark Hamill in there training the next generation of heroes. Pod races? Fuck that shit.
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Oct 16, 2007 12:59:14 PM CDT
they will have to run Star Wars into the ground like Star Trek
by rupee88
Lucas will milk every penny out of it with series of consistently declining quality/budgets to go along with the inevitably declining ratings over time. TV production values already suck compared to film for the most part, especially with sci-fi/CG stuff. So it is already going to be a big step down from the prequels, which were shittier than the original trilogy. And ESB and ROTJ progressively sucked after starting out with ANH, which was the best of all. You ESB fetishists are wrong, btw. Anyhow, it will be sad to see a once grand concept fade away pitifully over the next couple of decades.
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In Color!
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These will suck. Some ideas for a star wars show would be good, but pod races and probably shit dealing with JarJar/other not funny "comedic" relief will be the norm. The prequels are all terrible, bad script, bad acting(by good actors no less), and no continuity with previous trilogy. Holy shit were those a waste of time and money, and this series will be too.
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if they can keep Lucas away from it.
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... It'll be followed by Star Wars: The Next Iteration, Star Wars: Death Star Nine, Star Wars: Expeditioner (with a female captain), and finally Millenium Falcon (which, after 2 "refocusings" and steadily declining ratings will be renamed Star Wars: Millenium Falcon in it's fourth and final season). After all that, and with everyone, even hard core geeks, sick of everything Star Wars, JJ Abrams will step in with his Star Wars: Reboot feature film featuring the original characters from the classic series played by hot young stars and starlets from TV shows on the CW network and Nick... but George Lucas will still be overseeing everything as Executive Producer and DAMMIT(!)... Greedo will STILL shoot first!
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Begun, the hype has.
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they're giving us a character from that show! This COULD be really good, and I sincerely hope it is good...I just don't want it to go all "Young Indiana Jones"; Y'know, trying to edumacate us & entertain us at the same time, an' shit!
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We get it. You don't like anything but the OT. We got it TEN YEARS AGO when you first started bitching about the prequels. We still get it today. You hate anything that isn't a happy fuzzy memory from your youth.
So don't watch it.
See how easy that is? DON'T FUCKING WATCH IT. Don't read the EU books, don't watch the TV series or prequels. It's pretty simple, isn't it?
The Prequels and EU is not like Whedonites interjecting their cult beliefs into every fucking conversation. This is OPTIONAL. We're not talking about Star Wars EU to people who don't read the EU. We're not talking about the prequels to people who don't like the prequels. We don't have sing-alongs, or wander around calling ourselves some cutesy name (browncoat, scooby, etc.) to decribe our interest in these materials. YOU ARE FREE TO AVOID THIS STUFF, AND WE DON'T TELL YOU "you gotta watch, man! It's the best thing EVER!"
You may go watch "Cavemen" or "CSI: Chattanooga" if you so desire. We're not stopping you.
For those of us who DO like the EU and prequels, though, this is of interest, and thus we thank Harry for the information.
And lest you think the EU is not popular-- I sell books for a living. The Star Wars EU books outsell Star Trek AND Buffy materials combined. Easily. People WILL be watching this.
Finally, all you freaks who think "Star Wars = Badass Jedi Fights" can just fuck right off. I'm so sick of the whole idea of transforming Star Wars into some cheapass laser sword rendition of a bad martial arts flick, which is what 90% of the "fan"-made videos online seem to do. Star Wars is NOT just about the fucking Jedi. As far as I'm concerned, they could do a whole series based in the "dark times" and have NO JEDI WHATSOEVER, and it would be a better show for it.
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"and Jar Jar Binks as Himself". I´m not saying Jar Jar should be the main character of the series, but that he should at least appear in every episode. Can you imagine, a digital character winning a Supporting Actor Emmy? It can happen. It will! Now, seriously,George Lucas sucks, and I´ve never really liked Star Wars. I sort of dig Star Wars (or ANH, whatever) and Empire Strikes back, the rest is pure shit.
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One of the few ideas that wouldn't suck, since there are no freakin' Jedis in this show. Get Nathan Fillion to play Han (PERFECT casting) and Camryn Mannheim as Chewbacca.
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Look, a Star Wars property without any Jedi is like a Batman property without any Batman.
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There's a Jar Jar Binks toy that is his giant face with his mouth shaped like an O. It is shaped thus because it's a lollipop holder. You put the stem of the lollipop in Jar Jar's mouth and turn it on and the lollipop spins. So kids can suck face with Jar Jar while sucking a sucker.
This type of genius is why the shows already suck. -
and you know it´s true. after the cgi series, there will the live action series, that will be light year ahead of anything on tv....after that, the "Han and Chewie show", and after that, more epic movies, and after that, who knows, but my kid´s kid´s kids will love it!
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And explore racial issues of today with the Stars Wars backdrop. Lucas set it up in the prequels, it would be sweet.
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...Should be done just like The Tick live series... a sitcom set in New York where everyone stands around or hangs out in a fake-looking diner wearing ludicrous costumes telling bad sitcom jokes and nothing else EVER happens (no action, no FX... just a sitcom). Oh, and Han and Chewie turn out to be gay lovers.
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i'm cool
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STARWARS: Episode 7 A New Darkness.
STARWARS: Episode 8 Battle for the Galaxy
STARWARS: Episode 9 The Force Returns
This is you're new project George (as producer only of course). I'll be mailing the screenplays to the ranch in a few days. If you hurry you can have the first film ready by 2010. Don't let me down. -
They have us already!!!!!! This will be awful. Bet Vader turns up during it, but we just see like the hem of his cloak or something. the Poodoo cometh.
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Oct 16, 2007 4:01:59 PM CDT
THESE ARE THE WORST IDEAS FOR A SHOW EVER, BARRING FAT ACTRESS
by deus vult
Okay guys seriously you want to follow the adventures of a fourth-rate character from a failed cartoon from the mid-80's? no way, not gonna happen, ah-ah. what a really terrible idea! a droids cartoon character as the lead? and we're gonna explore his feelings? here's hoping the little man that lives inside harry's belly was smoking some high-end austin weed.
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I hate the politic plot lines in the new prequels. ALL I want are some laser gun fights, xwing vs tie fighter battles and lightsabre battles. Is that too much to ask?
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director. Even during the prequels I could see what he was trying to do, and in anyone else's hands it would have been interesting, but his execution is awful. Watching someone go from an innocent boy to one of the most evil people in the galaxy, that's an interesting idea, but in Lucas's hands it was just shit. Making the Jedi more Buddhist by having them forsake any romantic entanglements, again, an interesting idea with terrible execution. Hopefully he can recognize talent and get people who can actually direct instead of helming this thing himself.
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I'd discounted it as probably a fanboy prank like the ones on Superherohype all the time, but maybe this info was legit!
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Let's just see it already so we can judge it and fight about how great it is/how much it sucks.
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They just moved the story. Balls.
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Perhaps that's just beating an old sow.
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my childhood's ass isn't sore enough?
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There'll be alot of shots of spaceships taking off and landing. Hell there won't be enough time for seeing what "makes a character tick" if we ever see a Star Destroyer land (and you know sure as F#@K we'll see that).
Maybe we'll see Star Wars: The TV Series Special Edition in 20 years time where the digitally preserved Lucas (in THX) decides to insert more spaceship landing and take-off shots. -
Give the guy a break, eh?
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Hutts out on the corner hustlin the junk-fiend jawas as Imperial troops float by slowly on their land speeders, Darth Ops Vader tearing some general a new asshole at the weekly Imperial COMSTAT and ranting about a mandatory 10% drop in the smuggling rates, Proposition Watto buying slaves for a dollar and selling for two, Lando Bell pretending to go legit with gas mining and starting the A New Hope Co-Op, Ugnaughts cutting product and manicuring credits in the back room, Brother Fett shooting Method Bot in the shoulder and running him off the Mos Eisley Terrace, State Moff Tarkin's shuttle driver getting caught leaving Coruscant with 50 thousand in unmarked credits, Omar2D2 in a trenchcoat gliding through sand dunes at night whistling "Farmer in the Dell"... but most of all I want to see Luke confronting the Emporer and Palpatine just saying, "Sheeeeeeeeeeit."
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Oct 16, 2007 9:03:52 PM CDT
more inter-related gayness from the flabby flanneled one...
by wimps pimps psychos and sexfiends
...Wow there's gonna be more characters that no one cares about and they're related to characters no one cares about either? Where does he come up with these ideas?
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Oct 16, 2007 9:03:57 PM CDT
more inter-related gayness from the flabby flanneled one...
by wimps pimps psychos and sexfiends
...Wow there's gonna be more characters that no one cares about and they're related to characters no one cares about either? Where does he come up with these ideas?
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Anakin Skywalker was Supposed to be a geeky, uncomfortable teenager lusting after a an older and much more sophisticated woman. Of course he sounded like a tool.
And Padme--having been powerful government official since the age of 12 would have eaten up that kind of attention and given back just like she did.
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I'd love to see George try something non-starwars non-indy for a change, to see if he's got anything else up his sleeve. I'm not as interested in TV ideas, he should be making movies. Maybe he could team with Peter Jackson and Spielberg for the third Tintin movie! I think PJ could really get Lucas back on his game. He could help George make action scenes that really tie into the story, not effects for the sake of effects. (My biggest problem with ROTS... which I mostly liked... the disappointing space battle in the beginning. It looked awesome, but we don't know what started it, how it ended, or have any emotional ties to any of those big ships, or anyone on them, being destroyed. Maybe if we had a better idea of what's going on, a sense of direction... perhaps they would have to break through a line of capital ships to get to Greivous, and lose a major jedi or two in the process. Instead we get buzz droids...ughh.)
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Sad, angry, trolling little bastards on the internet will rip apart anything he makes like sick, rabid hyenas. Seriously, I think if I could have the millions and the fame Lucas has made from Star Wars, with the caveat that I'd be painfully aware that shallow, arrogant, lifeless jackasses on the internet let not a spare second of any given 24 hour period go by without ligubriously sobbing about how I've raped their childhoods and snidely snarking about how much more talented they are than me and how they would make better movies if given the chance even though they'll never likely even attempt to do anything outside of the confines of their depressingly menial and ineffectual little existences, I'd rather go poor.
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Oct 16, 2007 10:23:27 PM CDT
Looks like Uncle George is driving one more nail into the coffin
by bob cryptonight
Like we need more insight into what makes the characters "feel what they feel"!? Sheeesh! Why couldn't he have been driving Bob Clark's car?
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I love the OT. Love the PT. Love the old cartoons (Droids and Ewoks) Don't care for the EU (except for the games, KOTOR games in particular). And I will watch the TV show and probably love that too. So where do I rank on your shit list?
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Oct 17, 2007 12:00:44 AM CDT
Will there be a character who beats up Jar Jar Binks?
by mrmysteryguest
'Cause there are people who'd like to see that!
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But I've given up all that.
I'd much rather Lucas got over himself and went straight to working on the oft spoken of, all-talk, no action "dream projects" of his (y'know, the movies that won't make any money... all highly experimental...blah, blah, blah...?)... feh. Boba Feh. -
...complete with the Millenium Falcon and all that smuggling shit, and dealing with gangster bounty hunter types. ...but I guess I'll watch it anyway, even with the f-ing pod race crap.
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I always envisioned a TV series taking place after ROTJ with Luke nomadically traveling the galaxy dispensing justice, ala the TV show Kung Fu. C-3P0 and R2-D2 would tag along, naturally. Hamill would do it in a heartbeat and it would be a good way to work around not having the rest of the cast, aside from maybe a few episodes here and there if you could con Ford, Fisher, and Mayhew to pop up a couple of times a season. Then, of course, you could eventually have him setting up a new Jedi academy. Anyway, it'd be a great way to keep costs down and still have some old "serial style" fun.
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He's the fellow who wrote those infamous prequel dissertations. Evidently, we're not the only ones who fancy ROTJ the nadir of the series.
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Two great movies, four lousy to mediocre ones. Alien did the same thing. At what point do you give up on the franchise?
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that doesn't mean I don't want to see this though
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incorrect. You can watch Star Wars originals now and it is still really great. The prequels are not. They ARE NOT. Accept this, YOU are blinded by childhood obsession not us. We have moved on and expect decent, well executed film making. YOU do not. Hence your blind acceptance of the awful prequel trilogy. What was stopping them being better than the Lord of the Rings films ? Or even the Harry Potter films ? Nothing, thy could have hired THE best writers, THE best directors, THE best. They did not, they "yessed" Lucas' reputation away and half of their established fan base.
So now the TV series. What's to stop it being better than Lost, The Sopranos, 24 ? Nothing. They COULD hire the best writers, the best directors, the BEST. But they won't. Everyone will keep "yessing" Lucas and it will all end up a vaguely interesting third rate disaster bordering on prequel quality entertainment.
IMAGINE THE PREQUELS, BUT WITH LESS SPECIAL EFFECTS. IMAGINE THE PREQUELS, WITH AT LEAST 100 HOURS OF CONFIRMED EPISODES.
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...Remember in the prequels when the horrible side characters had useless exchanges ? The clones discussing the battle, Bail Organa and Wedge talking on the ship in Revenge of the Sith ? Imagine that for one hour. No, A HUNDRED one hours.
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The idea of SW on the small screen has always worried me. The essence of SW should always be giant iconic theatrical grandeur.... not weekly TV drama. Well... it might be cool... but I really hope they don't put too much of the F**KING PISS POOR Expanded Universe garbage into this show.
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Oct 17, 2007 11:26:09 AM CDT
"At least Buffy and Firefly fans have class and get laid"?
by conspiracy
Really? Are you sure that? I rather doubt anyone is too proud, or bragging about banging some ultra-chunky emo girl with serious self esteem issues;who spends her weekends dressing up like WIllow and Doing Buffy Sing alongs.
But I will agree with most here and say 1. Rabid Star Wars fans are pretty bad, and 2. Lucas just can't stop reaming everyones collective pre/young teen ass with his hack job Star Wars toy marketing exercises.
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The problem I had was this...
The OT...
1977 an obviously braless C/D cup Carrie Fisher
1982 An obviously coked up gold bikini wearing Carrie Fisher...
The PT...
3 movies with a smokin hot Natalie Portman and not one hint of nip or toe! Hell Lucas even made her "knocked up" in the last one!
Why do I bring this up? The PT has not once ounce of testosterone in them..no balls at all...they are charmless,sexless,cold and stiff
Obviously when Georges ex ditched him..she not only snipped his nuts, but she stole his soul as well.
God I only hope Spielberg keeps this sad, pathic man-child far away from the Indy movie...or we'll be bitching and lamenting about it come this time next year. -
Hopefully we will have more touching moments like Darth Vader rolling on the hills with Padme. Could you imagine Bobba Fett's akward first date? The Blue Elephant accidently asking two girls out the same night and trying to be two places at once? How about General Akbar spawning? It's a gold mine I tell ya.
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That is all.
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Lucas has learned his lesson. He wants to please the fanboys, but still pick up new viewers. He has admitted that he doesn't know as much about SW as some of the fans. He's said that he just wants to make it higher quality (more movie-like methinks) than anything else on TV right now.
The prequels are to show how things were so great before. We know that things ain't so great post-AOTC into ROTS, and this show is gonna chronicle the decay up to ANH. I'm all for it.
As much as haters wanna get it on about Lucas being a money grubber, remember that he is fronting the coin for a full season (before even being picked up and sponsored!), so that the series can be tweaked to a certain level of satisfaction. It is a business, after all. As much as we would like it to be made out of the sweet gooieness of love, the facts are that is has to make a return on investment.I'll be watching. -
I can believe a lot of way out stuff in order to watch SW, but there is only one set of plans for a spaceship the size of a small moon? Who the hell worked on it? A single engineer/architect? There must be plans for this thing all over the galaxy. Can you imagine the endless team meetings and sub project deadlines of hundreds of thousands of designers and engineers? Can you imagine the e-mails?! "No, no we can't put the GNDN tubes here, because the interior designers say it will not allow for a window overlooking C35h Hanger Bay on Deck 4c78-9 in the SW quadrent of the lower hemisphere. And they don't care if we don't meet our 345th benchmark for the fourth quarter deadline of our fifth planning year. Oh, well we better plan a meeting. Check everyone's schedule."
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I would not have the prequels made. All bad films.
Now seeing though the T.V. Series is going ahead. Let's get some directors.
My wish list.
1. James Cameron
2. Peter Jackson
3. Adam Jones from Tool
4. Kevin Smith
5. Rob Zombie.
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