I have to say, I enjoyed TRANSFORMERS more on this disc than I did in the theater – mainly because I could bookmark the action scenes and then play them in order in slow motion and actually see what was going on in HD glory. That’s awesome. ILM did amazing work here, but I still feel that too much of the TRANSFORMER action is against backgrounds that are too busy to easily focus on the key action of the shot. It’s like a spastic Where’s Waldo. A problem that many had with Lucas’ STAR WARS prequels, but far far far more erratic. The film looks gorgeous on HD and the extras are more than I have gotten through, so far. Definitely the way to go on this title.
This isn’t extended nearly as much as DEATH PROOF – but ya know what – the little extras – the extra gore, the extra oomph – well they really give the film that extra bit of marinara it deserves. This is an absurdly spectacular crazy-ass bit of awesome insanity! By no means a “realistic” film, rather –it’s a drive-in fever-pitched geek ejaculation. And it feels real good. Starts off with the trailer for MACHETE – but curiously – the trailers by Eli Roth and Edgar Wright are missing from both this disc and the earlier released DEATH PROOF. I hypothesize that they’ll be on a later release of the “Theatrical Experience” – but we’ll see. Robert has another edition of his 10 Minute Film School which you’ll enjoy and plenty of behind the scenes. Good stuff! If you go to the HoboWithAShotgun.com they write that the trailer HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN, which was made for a SXSW GRINDHOUSE TRAILER competition, has been signed to be included on a future BOX SET to be released next year. Also - apparently the script for the feature of HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN has been completed. Woo hoo!!!
Don’t you just love Michael Winterbottom films? I do. My main love of HD comes in play on a movie like this. It isn’t a giant effects spectacular… in fact it isn’t really a sweeping example of epic cinematography. To a large degree it’s an intimate film. A film that stays focused on the actors – and in HD – you really get drawn into their performances. Especially when you’re seeing it 9ft by 12ft in perfect clarity. Honestly, I haven’t dug into any of the extras – I’m not sure I really want to. This is dark material and I don’t necessarily want to delve into it. That said – Angelina Jolie is fantastic in this role. Really one of her best performances to date.
I’m a huge Al Jolson fan. He’s most infamous for his vaudeville Black Face numbers – but if you’ve actually watched his films – Jolson’s schtick is very much racy and in your face. He takes the steam out of every race, sex and lifestyle. That’s what his comedy was like. That said, JAZZ SINGER is by no means his best film, I claim it is WONDERBAR (still unreleased) – but it is incredibly historically significant. Now – the funny thing is, I don’t recommend this DVD to watch THE JAZZ SINGER. What I do recommend this DVD for is the extras. The documentary on the advent and development of sound on film is spectacular. And the 26 Vitaphone Vaudeville and music shorts from 1926 – 1930 are without a doubt worth every last penny spent on this set. Absolutely my fave release of the week.
Ok – I know I declared THE JAZZ SINGER DVD set as my fave… but dammit, this is my second fave. THE GIANT CLAW is infamous for it’s hilariously wrong looking giant bird, but goddammit, I love that fucking flying turkey! And if you can look past the flying turkey effect and design… well – you’ll enjoy the hell out of the movie. That said, the other 3 movies here, I really really enjoy without reservation. Specifically – I am a big fan of ZOMBIES OF MORA TAU and THE WEREWOLF. I love clothes wearing werewolves – and the one you see on the cover here… I dig. I seriously like that design. ZOMBIES OF MORA TAU is not a George Romero influenced Zombie film… it predates that – and while it isn’t WHITE ZOMBIE quality – it has a nice atmospheric vibe going. This set of 4 films for $17.49 is totally worth the dip.
I missed this film earlier this year, although I had intended to see it. I like Lasse Hallstrom’s work – and I don’t have a dislike for the Gere. That said, I love Howard Hughes stories – specially bugnuts crazy Hughes stories – and here… To watch Gere and Alfred Molina trying to pull off this scam – it’s really one of the better films I’ve seen this year. In some ways it reminds me of CATCH ME IF YOU CAN in it’s playful sense of whimsy. If you missed this in theaters – you should definitely give it a look on DVD – if you’re a fan of con-films – this is one to own.
You know for a majority of the film, I was really into this. But boy did it completely blew at the end… at least for me. This isn’t quite a “GHOST” film – mainly because apparently when you almost die and you’re unconscious – your consciousness can wander the earth observing what’s going on – but if your body dies – you disappear (to heaven, hell, whatever) – Generally – I like these sorts of movies. But ya know… you compare this story to say… THE LOVELY BONES… well, it just doesn’t compare. Tha said it is a nice juvenile play on this type of material with a soft ending. However, opinions on this film vary depending on your level of tolerance for velveeta.
I have all three of these TREASURES sets and I’ll continue to pick them up, so long as they’re put out. This isn’t just about film – it’s about history. Sure there’s something like THE BLACK HAND – the very first gangster film around – only 11 minutes long, but very cool. But then there’s films about fighting TB in 1912, a traffic safety film for kids… from 1913. Think about that. Traffic safety in 1913 Brooklyn? What the hell did TRAFFIC look like then? It’s here. There’s early Suffragette movement stuff here. A 65 minute Anti Abortion film from 1916 starring Tyrone Power’s FATHER?!?!?! This stuff is amazing. I love the anti-union cartoon by Ford Motors from 1919 – sure it’s just 40 seconds, but it’s crazy. The discs are packed with this sort of thing. Prohibition shorts, disabled veterans from WWI documentary – Films by De Mille, D.W. Griffith and more. Plus you get a great companion book and more. This is over 12 hours of historic
This is one of the great curiosities of the week for me. I don’t have this yet, but apparently – exclusively to HD-DVD this film becomes a “Choose your own Horror film” where at several different points in the movie – the film will ask you to decide what a character should or should not do – and depending on your choice, the film heads in a different direction and deaths are different and the story changes. I love hokey shit like this. The gore effects will probably be pretty good – but it’s a DARK CASTLE film which is a reason to rent – but to fully explore your options here – it might be worth owning and having be a “party” flick that you don’t feel bad for bullshitting during.
This is a truly fantastic film! LA OTRA CONQUISTA (in it’s original language) is very much a film that plays like it’s a sequel to APOCALYPTO – dealing with the horrors that Spain brought to the Maya. This is a really superior film. It had the tiniest of releases in the United States – but was the biggest film in the history of Mexico – and is a brilliant movie about the collision of cultures, faiths and beliefs – and how the conqueror is as changed as the conquered. Brilliant film, you owe yourself a look at this movie!
Possibly the most insane love story ever recorded. Burt Pugach and Linda Riss are mutually insane. Absolutely bat nuts insane in love. When Burt found out that Linda was engaged to another man, he hired thugs to throw LYE into her EYES – blinding her. He went to prison for 20 years and came out wooing her – and she took him back. This is a documentary folks of true love crazier than anything made up. Now I love my wife, and I’d like to think if she had someone throw Lye in my eyes, that I’d still love her… but ya know… dude – that’s LYE in your EYES and BLINDING YOU FOREVER. That’s fucked up shit to get over. When they sent me this DVD to review – they sent like 40 pages of Love Letters – that… I just can’t believe worked. This is a fantastic documentary and something to share with your loved one every anniversary or Valentine’s Day, because no matter your problems – if Burt and Linda could make it, you should be able to do just fine.
I’ve had the Japanese DVD of CASSHERN for years now – and for all that time, I’ve been praying that DREAMWORKS’ GO FISH label would theatrically release this phantasmagorically stunning film. 1st time director, Kazuaki Kiriya delievers a visually jaw-dropping live-action anime that just stuns. Now this version of the film is Kazuaki’s director’s cut – which is actually shorter than it’s initial release, but in this case, that actually works. The original cut was a bit ponderous and long in the tooth. Here – the film is quite a bit more coherent – but still definitely odd. I will say this though – this film has some of the greatest live action superhero shit you’ll ever see. It is awesome. Plot isn’t that great, but ya know what – this is definitely a case of style over substance where the style is so audacious and beautiful that you’ll have a stream of cuss words spilling out of your mouth in reaction. Gorgeous work!
If you’ve been holding off buying MACGYVER till the whole series came out as a single set – here ya go. That said – it features no fucking extras. Personally – I want a DVD – that is just all of the amazing rustic innovations – proven or disproven by the MYTHBUSTERS. Because that’s what my MACGYVER fetish is about. I want to see how he’s going to have the exact right bullshit things in his pocket and laying around that’ll save his life and doom the bad guys…. And then I want to see if any of it would really work in reality proven by the gods of truth – the MYTHBUSTERS. Alas – tis a fantasy of mine. This is barebones.
I’m dying to see this DVD – also released as a Blu-Ray - Now I know that most of you probably hate HOLLOW MAN, but Verhoeven showed me his original cut of the film a few months before release – and that film was VASTLY SUPERIOR to the eventual SONY butchered release. One of the great differences was the infamous rape scene – Now it was never GRAPHIC – what was different was the way it ended and the shot that showed the aftermath of what Kevin’s character did – the victim’s aftermath – it is horrifying, not titillating. The ending was also different. Now I haven’t seen this DVD yet, but if it is that version of the film – you’re in for a treat.
This film got incredible buzz out of SLAMDANCE this year – then again at SXSW – if memory serves. I haven’t had a chance to see it yet, but literally everyone that I know that has seen it – loved it and recommended it. That said, it’s definitely one of the films I’ll pick up this week.
Folks, I got some sad news for you. You know how with the release of Tarantino and Rodriguez’s GRINDHOUSE double feature – you might have thought that this would raise the profile of the term GRINDHOUSE and we’d get a lot of DVDs that had double features of cool Grindhouse era films… right? And that’s been the case. It’s really been a new age for releasing these films – well after the last DVD column, where I recommended a WELCOME TO GRINDHOUSE double bill… I found out that apparently THE WEINSTEIN COMPANY has decided to go after all the DVD companies that are using the GRINDHOUSE phrase on their covers – because… apparently – THE WEINSTEIN COMPANY is deciding they own the phrase GRINDHOUSE. Which makes me fucking sick to my stomach. So instead of this being a word for a watershed of classic films – the Weinsteins are going to keep it from being used as it SHOULD BE USED – to help honest to goodness GRINDHOUSE films. This may be your last chance to pick up a GRINDHOUSE double bill. Fucking WEINSTEINS! Not only did they fuck up the marketing on GRINDHOUSE, but now their lawyers are going to kill everything that should have benefited from the awareness. That said – this is a very fun horror double bill. Good buy for 11 bucks.
Did you like Brian DePalma’s BLACK DAHLIA? Well GIRL 27 isn’t about the infamous BLACK DAHLIA, but another case of Hollywood’s degradation in the “Golden Era”. This is a film about MGM in 1937 tricking 120 underage beautiful chorus girls into attending a stag party and when one tried to flee – she was brutally raped. Then began a huge cover-up. This is a mystery that is solved and unveiled. It’s an astonishing true-life documentary revealing the scary side of classic Hollywood. Wonderful film.That’s it for this week – see you next week where I’ll be talking about titles like MEET THE ROBINSONS, HOSTEL PART II, Kubrick in HD, THE ADVENTURES OF YOUNG INDIANA JONES, Criterion BREATHLESS & DAYS OF HEAVEN, O LUCKY MAN, FIDO, Jack Ryan on HD, POTEMKIN and much much more!!!
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST
Though I'm a little sick of HD dVD pimping (as subtle as Harry tries to make it).
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST
I even liked the thetrical cut. Yes, it was Verhoeven's most commercial movie, but it was fun to watch.
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST
by future help
Glad Harry will get the extra rape from Hollow man. i guess i will watch it.
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:51 p.m. CST
by future help
unlike Tarantino's first flop.
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:52 p.m. CST
by future help
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST
...I hate these guys.
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST
and generally people seem to be lapping it up. Michael Bay thank you.
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:58 p.m. CST
...can't wait for news of those Kubrick titles to start coming in! The Shining...HD...uncompressed sound...DROOL!
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST
star in my book. Hollow Man is like a guilty pleasure that I find myself watching whenever it turns up on cable (even edited for television). Curious about the directors cut. It's not a great movie, it's barely good, but something about it makes it watchable.
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST
you can afford an HD projection unit with a 9 foot by 12 foot image, but you can't shell out for a BluRay?? And hasn't Sony come out with a HD/BluRay Combo player??
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST
by barnaby jones
and if you've seen the end of AOTC, visually it's not that stunning. Love Planet Terror for all it's insane glory, also looking forward to the DC of Hollow Man and HD Transformers.
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:25 p.m. CST
Skimn: I bought the HD projection unit back when I was earning an extra 6K a month from Penthouse. And the 9ft by 12ft screen, I bought for my sister's store about 5 years ago. Gorgeous screen. This year though, I've paid for an incredibly expensive wedding, I'm saving for a lap band surgery for myself to live longer and better, unexpected bills on my father's stroke and upcoming kidney surgery... in addition to the 3 mortgages I pay a month and two households of utilities. SO I'm waiting for the cheaper BLU RAY units that are supposed to hit this holiday season - but with the medical bills, I'm not sure if that's a guaranteed deal. I hope so though. <BR><BR>FutureHelp: It's not "Extra Rape" - as the scene was in the "Studio Cut" they removed the brutality (completely non-sexual) and then the aftermath and reveal of that beautiful woman destroyed... thus making it seem like rape was an EASY and GUILTLESS crime. In his original cut - the scene was 100% not-erotic - but about the HORROR that is inherent with rape. And it showed how that one act changed Kevin's character absolutely. There's a lot of those types of things that were in that original cut that I loved because they made the film very hard, like all of Verhoeven's flicks.
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST
transformers was a weak film not worth a rental
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:46 p.m. CST
Is the missing reel in "Planet Terror" edited back into the film? I'd heard a rumor that it was going to be for the DVD so that all the dumbasses who didn't get the joke the first time around would understand, but you know what? Fuck that. It was the best gag in the movie. Please tell me it's still not there!<P>Also, that's a GREAT idea about having the Mythbusters take on MacGyver's creations. I may go suggest it on the Mythbusters message boards...
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST
But Harry doesn't get paid to pimp that. Toshiba paid $150 million to buy Paramount/Dreamworks exclusivity. I wonder what the rate is for Knowles? Presumably its worked on an installment plan; I don't think I would trust Harry with a one-off payment.
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST
Zarles - Robert never even wrote the missing reel on Planet Terror. It's not only NOT in there, but was never written or filmed. Praetor - Actually if I was on HD DVD's payroll, first thing I'd do would be... BUY A BLU-RAY player and then constantly tell you that watching the Blu-Ray and the HD - that HD owns its ass. Which I don't. I'm on HD DVD, because I had the extra $300 to buy the player. That's it. There's no rate for me. I'm not on the market because if I were on the market, I'd be out of business - and frankly - I'd rather keep AICN going for the rest of my life, rather than some short term bullshit. AND FOR THE RECORD - BLU RAY has out spent HD DVD advertising on my site almost 2 to 1.
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST
I think you just mean "long." or "lengthy" "A bit ponderous and lengthy" or maybe "a bit ponderous and slow" but that might not be what you mean. I dunno. I'm pretty sure you do'nt mean "old" though, despite having had the dvd for years.
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:01 p.m. CST
What about the films they've released translates into a mark of quality? Everything they've put out has sucked. "House on Haunted Hill", "13 Ghosts", "Ghost Ship"... all f'ing wastes of time and money in my opinion.
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:12 p.m. CST
...because I'm constantly BROKE! Will let you know how CE3K looks, though.
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:19 p.m. CST
Good to know. Also, I'm checking out the Mythbusters board right now, and it appears that the MacGyver Mythbusters special has been suggested already, but turned down by the owners of the MacGyver rights a few times because of licensing bullshit. However, it seems that they may have gotten the approval to try and bust a few MacGyver-related myths. Fingers crossed...
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST
Can't wait to see this one. I love fucked up people.
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST
That's all I can see on the Hollow Man art. I know it's the sunglasses blending in with Kevin's pic, but I'm telling you it looks like a bluish Betty Rubble-ish hairdo.
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST
Really. How about everyone pitch in $1. Set up some kind of charity site or something. If one of the biggest movie site owners truly can't afford a player (and there is no reason to not trust Harry - except for the constant HD DVD plugs), then I say we all pitch in. Where do I send my $1 Harry?
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST
before you buy a machine make sure you do your homework there are reasons why people pay more for bluray. There are reasons why people like hddvd.Do your homework.
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST
It's pretty cool looking at times, but the nonsensical story and editing made it unbearable.
Oct. 13, 2007, 4:57 p.m. CST
...did the grindhouse thing better than anything in GRINDHOUSE. Also, the Weinsteins are fucknoses for claiming ownership of the word "grindhouse." I like sentences that use the word "grindhouse" repeatedly. Grindhouse grindhouse. Fuck the grindhouse Weinsteins grindhouse.
Oct. 13, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST
I read somewhere that everything that MacGyver did in the series was BASED on a real experiment, but they slightly changed it to prevent kids, idiots and idiotic kids from re-enacting it.
Oct. 13, 2007, 5:12 p.m. CST
in which Harry clearly says that the accident that took the lives of Vic Morrow and two kids was on the disc? It ain't (thank God); and I just wonder why Harry thought it was!
Oct. 13, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST
I want nothing big, just a few lines to know if - according to your memories about your VIP screening - this edition is some kind of REAL Director's Cut, or just the deleted scenes and alternate takes thrown in for a quick buck. This is a (supposedly) Director's Cut of a Verhoeven movie, for fuck's sake. A weak Verhoeven movie, but his nonetheless. Please put these Blade Runner's reviews on a shelf for a few days and do Our Man Paul justice! <p> Please. <p> Thanks.
Oct. 13, 2007, 5:25 p.m. CST
you have to know where to look.
Oct. 13, 2007, 5:37 p.m. CST
Them and Fox can go have a dick sucking lawyer party. Fucking fun ruiners.
Oct. 13, 2007, 5:43 p.m. CST
Good answer, good answer.
Oct. 13, 2007, 5:58 p.m. CST
the problem isn't whether or not the little DVD company would win in the end... it's actually about the amount of legal fees they'd accumulate trying to sell movies that are obscure - and who's profit margin is worth the fight - as they barely break even with the releases as is.
Oct. 13, 2007, 6:06 p.m. CST
...are cunts. That is all.
Oct. 13, 2007, 6:33 p.m. CST
Been coming to this site since 1997 and finally evoked a response. I hear what you're saying Harry, but I honestly don't buy it. There is too much money blowing about with this stupid format war. Hell I don't blame you and I apologize if what you say is true..but you honestly lay yourself open to abuse on this one by so dramatically taking a side (for reasons stated that were pretty inaccurate). For the record I have neither format at present.
Oct. 13, 2007, 6:48 p.m. CST
I saw the remake of Wickerman on HBO last night. It has to be the most unintentially hysterical film of all time. In 30 years it will be a HUGE cult classic! OH, THE FRIGGIN BEAR SUIT!!!!!!
Oct. 13, 2007, 7:01 p.m. CST
and I have both. So there. =)
Oct. 13, 2007, 7:08 p.m. CST
I searched on teh innernets and couldn't find anything about Weinstein Bastards going after distributors that use Grindhouse on the covers of DVDs.
I'm all about Transformers and Casshern next week! Hey, speaking of Casshern, you guys need to cover more of the Asian sci-fi/fantasy market, some cool stuff there that hardly gets mentioned here ... Like Shinobi.
Oct. 13, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST
by future help
Oct. 13, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST
I hear ya, bro. Check out http://youtube.com/watch?v=v_mW8mBzmHo (minus the spaces) or just go to Youtube and look up "wicker man comedy trailer." Finally the movie kind of makes sense. <p> "No, Not the bees! No! They're getting into my eyes!! NOOOOO!!!!!"
Oct. 13, 2007, 8:27 p.m. CST
...didn't the Wankstains license it from Grindhouse Releasing (ie. Bob Murawski and Sage Stallone)?
Oct. 13, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST
This has been the best DVD review in a while. Thank you Harry. Now I do enjoy old movies I just can't watch them all the time. But man the biggest treat for me is CASSHERN I remember seeing that trailer back like 3 plus years ago and I watched it like every day but it was all in whatever language it was, so I never knew the name. Then I forgot about it, and thought Appleseed was the movie and sadly no it wasn't. But CASSHERN man can't WAIT! Plus not gonna lie I loved Hollow Man I don't know why??? I just did, I pretty much like all of Paul's work. I think he is one of the few directors that can make special effects really work and probably the only huge director that does not play it safe with violence and sex. I wanna see his old stuff though. Man like there are a bunch on this list, totally screwed up my Netflicks order. Not enough time in the day.
Oct. 13, 2007, 8:49 p.m. CST
I saw the CASSHERN trailer the same time I saw the Nightwatch trailer and I was like?? When are these movies coming to America?? I think America feels threated by big action foreign movies. They will release small dramatic foreign movies all over the place but these big action movies that make American films look why behind the curve has got to scare them. I mean look at Sunshine? No one saw that and it was just as big and epic as an other tent pole movie of the summer. Also I am sooo pissed I am stuck seeing Daywatch on my TV. That movie came out in like three theaters for a day? May as well been releasing a porno. But OF course America shoves are huge movies down the throats of foreign theaters, as we should. Didn't we invent cinema?? Yeah thats right, fuck you France!
Oct. 13, 2007, 8:55 p.m. CST
Too bad I don't have HD because then I could cut out any scene from the desert, or with Jon Jolie, Antony Why Am I Famous Anderson, and John Steve Buscemi, William Fichtner and Will Patton were all hopefully too busy to play this turd of a part Turturro. And then maybe this movie would at least kind of remind me of the original Transformers? There is still going to be more then like 3 people on the planet and no Orson Welles though.
Oct. 13, 2007, 8:59 p.m. CST
watch the shield season 4 you realize why anthony anderson is amazing. and if martin puts him in a film, ya pretty cant say a word douchebag.
Oct. 13, 2007, 9:05 p.m. CST
of course blu ray pays 2x as much on your site. hd is in your pocket you let them ad for free
Oct. 13, 2007, 9:09 p.m. CST
But for everything good he does, there is like 50 things he does that suck. Also as far as the cast for the Departed goes??? Umm it pretty much felt like good Ole Martin was aiming for a commercial success. And for some reason People enjoy Anderson. Now I don't hate the guy like Carlos Mencia, who is a talentless hack. While Anderson can act and be funny, he just needs to learn when to say no. And as far as computer geeks in summer blockbusters went, the fat man Kevin Smith kicked his ass. Plus Anderson's character made no logical sense at all.
Oct. 13, 2007, 9:35 p.m. CST
The Weinsteins will buy the rights to 'Horror' 'Action' 'Comedy' etc and no-one in the world will be able to describe their own movies!!!
Oct. 13, 2007, 9:36 p.m. CST
Crazy Love is pretty disturbing. And it's not a happy love story by any stretch of the imagination. http://220.127.116.11/~yvigpfed/fangirls/movies/review_DVD_CrazyLove.html
Oct. 13, 2007, 9:46 p.m. CST
by Osmosis Jones
Seriously. It's just the deleted scenes from the original disc put back in. No extra gore, no extra nudity (although Elisabeth Shus now says the line "you fit better" to Josh Brolin in bed), and for THIS they dropped the commentary and isolated Jerry Goldsmith score from the first release? Skip this one, folks.
Oct. 13, 2007, 11:46 p.m. CST
all the cool horror releases for the week. http://www.joblo.com/arrow/releases.php and also this kick ass site. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
Oct. 14, 2007, 12:15 a.m. CST
First, do the Weinsteins own the word "grindhouse" or the all caps logo "GRINDHOUSE". If it's the latter I don't think it's fair to jump their shit for claiming a logo. If it's the word well then that's just retarded. I'm not a lawyer but I'm reasonably sure you can't own a word. I also think DerLanghaarige is correct with his statement about MacGyver. I know alot of the tricks he pulled (as well as the MacGyverisms) in the first season worked. It was half way through the first season or the start of the second season where they changed them up.
Oct. 14, 2007, 12:25 a.m. CST
Transformers sucked ass (thanks Moriarty) but does the DVD have a director's commentary. If so I WILL be getting it. It's the commentary that actually makes me enjoy Uwe Boll movies, where he tries to justify his turds. I'm sure Michael Bay's commentary will be pure comedy, or just give me one more reason to hate him. Either way it will be money well spent.
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:26 a.m. CST
Tend to look like Jeff Garlin OR is part of his WHOLE act is to look like one of the Weinstein twins??? When are we going to see Boondocks 2? Directed by Aaron McGruder I am tired of hearing how Troy Duffy F'ed himself in the A. No matter how it would turn out Aaron McGruder would make a much more better sequel to the already squelless movie. PLUS he is funny unlike Troy Duffy who just reminds me of Tomas Sizemore.
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:34 a.m. CST
thats the greatest news ive heard in a while. Cant wait to have a copy of the trailer on dvd!
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:42 a.m. CST
Harry speaks truth on HD-DVD/BluRay. I'm one of those nerds with no social life that has both formats (HD-DVD player and BluRay via PS3). The only place that BluRay comes out on top is with entirely digital features (stuff that was done start to finish HD). For older movies and stuff done on film, BluRay is GRAINY AS SHIT. HD-DVD blows it out of the water. This is IMHO only of course, but I do have both to compare.
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:45 a.m. CST
I just wrote something really long and important about Rambo and then I hit something stupid and now its gone. Thats what you get for posting drunk. Anyways the jist was, while many people do not realize the importance of this site, the fact that Rocky does should say something. My Mark McGwire fan himself can sit down and realize how real Harry is, that just adds SOOOO much respect for the big man. I mean I always thought he was better then our Future President (once we pass that married to a Kennedy law) because he always felt like just a dumb guy who got lucky (watch Rocky 1) and he knowns that to please the people first, though he may have lost sight of that (Driven.... cough I See You... cough) he came to his sense (I enjoyed Driven fuck you). But since I am drunk I am not really sure where this post was going I think it was something about FX not being in HD and how that is bullshit?? But in the end.... John Rambo... BNAT put your money on it. Peace I want to be a member of that audience so bad I will.... write your post for you if you give me tickets that you get and I don't.
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:46 a.m. CST
I have a Wii what the fuck does that play besides nothing????
Oct. 14, 2007, 3:16 a.m. CST
I'm sure you're not an HD-DVD shill Harry but it looks that way when you give out false info. RETURN TO THE HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL is NOT exclusive to HD-DVD. In fact the seamless branching feature - which supposedly allows the film 96 possible endings - should actually work smoother on Blu Ray. I think the format war's pretty pathetic but you should change your main review (which is very informative, thanks) so it tells people THE TRUTH.
Oct. 14, 2007, 4:29 a.m. CST
7, basically you're stuck waving your wand around, aren't you.<P> Mattman, I've done direct comparisons of both transfers of "Departed", "Blood Diamond", and "Superman Returns". Departed and Blood Diamond look better on HD-DVD with less grain, and Superman Returns looks better on BluRay. Also, CG Features look stunning on BluRay. Like I said, just my own observations.
Oct. 14, 2007, 4:46 a.m. CST
do you actually see Transformers in this movie about earthlings?
Oct. 14, 2007, 6:28 a.m. CST
... Harry made enough advertising dollars to be able to afford HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. Guess I was wrong.</p><p> I do find it strange, though, that both formats have not sent him free players. (I believe what Harry says, I actually do find it strange that these companies haven't sent him players.)
Oct. 14, 2007, 6:59 a.m. CST
Why would the branching work better on Blu-Ray? Hd-Dvd has better interactive features. As far as picture quality, in my experience, at their best HD and Blu-Ray look identical. Sound is a little different, depending on the title. Sometimes people assume that because Sony's spec sheet looks better on paper that it translates to the end product, but it doesn't. But then Sony has a history of building products to looks good on the spec sheets. (cough)PS3(cough). They do make great TVs though. =)
Oct. 14, 2007, 7:23 a.m. CST
Was it on the DEATH PROOF DVD??? Did Harry just forge to include it in his list of GRINDHOUSE missing trailers on DVD???
Oct. 14, 2007, 7:51 a.m. CST
Harry, this is the best thing on the site. More!!!!
Oct. 14, 2007, 10:10 a.m. CST
didnt Harry absolutely shit on transformers? I agree it suffered the same fate as the SW prequels though. Not "busy" shots like Harry said, but bitter whiny bitches who had too high of expectations, the dudes who wanted 3 more sw films exactly like the first 3 (although its a different story arc) and those who were pissed TF did not equal the cartoon, which is stupid, b/c the cartoon was shit.
Oct. 14, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST
Oct. 14, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST
NONE of em are on Death Proof; at least we get Machete on Planet Terror. WW of the SS, Don't and Thanksgiving (as far as I know) can only be seen on Youtube at this point. Damn, I hope Edgar Wright actually makes Don't: we could use an Argento spoof with actual INTENTIONAL laughs.
Oct. 14, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST
the video rate alone is almost double on bluray these are the things people need to know. all the hddvd guys want you to think they are the same they are not thats why the real movie geeks are buying bluray. best picture/sound available. believe me if I could get the same quality on hddvd I would love to buy it it is still way cheaper but I want best sound and picture so I had to buy bluray.
Oct. 14, 2007, 10:33 a.m. CST
I loved grindhouse in the theatre and with them splitting up the film I don't think it will be the same. the whole thing together works.
Oct. 14, 2007, 11:27 a.m. CST
It's cool if you like a whole bunch of junk thrown into your eyeballs with no rhyme or reason. I'm certain it will go on to be the most underserving, overhyped turd that has come along in a while.
Oct. 14, 2007, 11:45 a.m. CST
What's the point of teasing us with your Director's Cut screening of Hollow Man (a privilege which no other DVD reviewer could take pride of, to my knowledge...) if you don't REVIEW the DVD? <p> This column NEEDS an update. OK, it's sunday, but c'mon!^^
Oct. 14, 2007, 12:20 p.m. CST
by Mr Incredible
Dreamworks cut it down from the mind-numbing 141 minutes to about 90. Hopefully the ninety minutes will be worth watching.
Oct. 14, 2007, 1 p.m. CST
Was an amazing film, kinda reminded me of the Breakfast Club only with deranged psycho artists...
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:16 p.m. CST
So for this week's buys, Best Buy has an extra disc version of Planet Terror with an extra interview with RR; seems cool and worth the extra couple of bucks. Target has an exclusive version of Transformers with "extra content" and no further specifications (other than a borderline retarded "Transforming packaging). First - anyone know what this extra content might be? Second - I'm happy for the extras on some of these store specific releases (I honestly think the Target exclusive version of the Heroes set is worth it), but DAMN I wish these things were included on the standard release so that I didn't have to drive to 2 or 3 stores to pick up everything I want.
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:58 p.m. CST
on your recent financial problems. I hope all goes well with you and your father's medical procedues.
Oct. 14, 2007, 2:11 p.m. CST
fun for what it is.
Oct. 14, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST
On paper Blu-Ray should clearly be superior. But, in head to head comparisons that I've seen, I just don't see it. And I do have both formats so it doesn't really matter one way or the other.
Oct. 14, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST
I wont buy it on Blu-ray right now. Instead I'll wait for a sale in the future.
Oct. 14, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST
I've actually been wondering about that lately. I know that compression actually REDUCES grain (a good example is HD Trailers downloaded off the Sony Network- they look incredible- NO grain). Could be that the higher bitrate actually makes the grain more noticeable. Since stuff that is originated from a digital source has no "film grain" to speak of, it might look better. I was disappointed to find that my Superbit "Fifth Element" looks better with 720p upsampling than the same movie done in BluRay.
Oct. 14, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST
Too bad I have to buy that shitty "Planet Terror" to get it though.
Oct. 14, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST
Even on the level of 'giant robots vs. giant robots', I found TRANSFORMERS monumentally underwhelming. How this film managed to substantially outgross, you know, GOOD movies like STARDUST, I will never fucking understand. <br><br> Oh, and THE INVISIBLE had a good premise...but the fact that the lead girl was an absolute cunt and the forced romantic angle (between said cunt and the guy she beat half to death) destroyed it. <br><br> That is all.
Oct. 14, 2007, 5:38 p.m. CST
And, really, if anybody should Copyright this word (right...), it should be Bill Landis and Michelle Clifford. Or maybe Sam Sherman. Or, better yet, Roger Corman. Or, ooh, maybe HG Lewis!
Oct. 14, 2007, 5:57 p.m. CST
by Shawn F.
Hey Harry, sorry to hear about your dad's health problems. I've had issues with my dad of late and it has not been fun. Best wishes for his speedy recovery. In the meantime, Kubrick HD goodness for both formats on the 23rd! "2001" in HD? FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct. 14, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST
I don't give a shit about the format war and I'm not trying to fan any flames - I have both so I'm format neutral. But my basic point is that RETURN TO THE HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL is available on both HD-DVD and BLU-RAY and both will include the seamless branching feature. To say that it's an HD-Exclusive makes Harry look either plain ignorant or actively biased.I appreciate you may be otherwise occupied, Harry, but what may have started out as a mistake is looking more like a lie by the hour. It needs to be fixed.
Oct. 14, 2007, 7:01 p.m. CST
If you want to look fair and balanced, please throw up links on there to the Blu-ray versions of the films you've selected. I know for sure that David Goyer's "The Invisible" and "Return to House on Haunted Hill" is hitting Blu-ray (but props to throwing in the Blu-ray link to "Hollow Man"). If you don't do that, you give a mistaken impression that these films are only out on HD DVD which of course famously has an exclusive to *Transformers* thanks to Microsoft/Toshiba/HD DVD Group giving Paramount $150 million in payola to go exclusive. You should seriously think about asking Sony to give you a PS3 so that you can review titles if money is an issue...hell, throw up a PayPal donation link so the website fans can donate to such a fund if Sony balks (doubtful). The PS3 would suit you well and since Sony will be upgrading its firmware (again) on October 30th, it'll be running the up-to-date Blu-ray Profile 1.1 so there's no fears about "obsolescence". Please do consider this...
Oct. 14, 2007, 7:06 p.m. CST
Non-3rd Generation Toshiba HD DVD players won't be able to play the triple layer HD DVD discs rated at 51 GB. D'oh! Had you done your research, you could've picked up a PS3 (still the best Blu-ray player barring the Pioneer models) with $100 off had you bought it with the Sony Card.
Oct. 14, 2007, 7:09 p.m. CST
T'was watching it for the first time - on Blu-ray courtesy of NetFlix - a couple of weeks back (or was it three) on a sick day. No joke, just as the flick ended and I switched the TV to the local news, the top story was about the nude guy who broke into Nicholas Cage's house and was wearing his coat. Talk about surreal. Not one minute in-between the end of the flick and the news broadcast. But - 5 points given to the remake for ditching female nudity, although it was good that they left out that ridiculous song and dance from the original.
Oct. 14, 2007, 7:14 p.m. CST
Stop repeating the ridiculous "grainy" story about Blu-ray. As stated above, it all depends on the film transfer and how much money the studio pumps in on a particular title. When DVD first came out, a lot of the releases were grainy (*Predator*, *Conan*, etc.) because the studio didn't clean up the masters. Sony took a lot of krap over the first edition of *The Fifth Element* on Blu-ray for looking grainy and being encoded in MPEG-2 instead of H.264 MPEG-4 AVC. So what did Sony do? They released a new version with a much better transfer and in AVC. It is stunning. Plus, if you own the original krappy version, you can send it in to Sony and they'll replace it with the new version for free. In comparison, it would have been nice had Microsoft replaced Windows Millennium with XP for free for everyone that had the misfortune of buying it, but alas, they did not.
Oct. 14, 2007, 7:43 p.m. CST
but the directors cut sounds promising.
Oct. 14, 2007, 7:46 p.m. CST
while still obnoxious, it really isn't a suprise that the Weinsteins pulled the trailers from the DVD releases. the KILL BILL split was crap too. can't Tarantino go somewhere else??? surely, there is some studio somewhere that will pony up prodcution costs.
Oct. 14, 2007, 8:20 p.m. CST
by Colier Rannd
I say that since they lost Disney as cover and now are older and have some kind of empire to protect they've gone soft and scared. They need to nut up.
Oct. 14, 2007, 10:36 p.m. CST
I just can't believe that.
Oct. 14, 2007, 11:06 p.m. CST
Okay Mr. Spork, you want a synopsis on HD DVD vs. Blu-ray, here goes. Blu-ray was primarily designed by Sony but is backed by almost the entire consumer electronics industry (and much of the computer industry too), so it is not proprietary. HD DVD was created by Toshiba and is primarily made by Toshiba. The reason why Toshiba - and Warner Home Video - are so keen for HD DVD to win is so their patent portfolio from DVD format carries over to the next generation. And since Sony is so heavily invested in Blu-ray, Microsoft is backing HD DVD and helping to subsidize Toshiba's losses through transfer subsidies (ie. licensing). Microsoft just a couple of years back bankrolled SCO's fiasco of a lawsuit against IBM on the grounds that Linux was infringing upon their alleged rights to Unix; Microsoft got to tarnish Linux's reputation on the cheap by having a proxy take the fall. The same goes here. While HD DVD can use the codecs of MPEG-2, MPEG-4 H.264 AVC, and Microsoft's VC-1 (aka Windows Media 9), it almost exclusively uses Microsoft's VC-1, most likely due to Microsoft's subsidies. HD DVD currently has a lead on Blu-ray in terms of "interactivity" when it comes to putting director's commentaries in a PiP (picture-in-picture) window and in downloading nearly useless items from websites that will expire in a year. I chalk that up to the multi-angle DVD feature that the format hyped at the beginning and then nearly completely abandoned since only the porn industry put it to good use, but I digress. Those interactivity features are courtesy of Microsoft's iHD/HDi/whatever-Microsoft-calls-it-this week software platform which is supposedly easy to program. Blu-ray uses BD-J which is a variant on Sun's Java technology that powers a good portion of websites and cell phones. So far, HD DVD hasn't turned on region coding protection, whereas Blu-ray has it (but less region codes than DVD has); and this was only a positive for Blu-ray in that some of New Line's titles will hit Blu-ray 6 months ahead of the HD DVD release since some of those movies will still be playing in Europe at the time of the Blu-ray release for the North American market. Blu-ray has tighter copy protection (BD+ on some of the newly released Fox titles beyond AACS) which is why Fox supports Blu-ray without payola schemes, unlike what has been used to bribe Paramount and Universal into exclusively backing HD DVD. While both formats support the same codecs, Blu-ray has a much higher bitrate transfer possible, and it is nearly double that of what HD DVD is capable of. That means, less compression which means a better picture and/or better audio. And most Blu-ray titles already support uncompressed audio due to the larger disc capacity that it enjoys. Currently, most Blu-ray titles are shipped as a dual layer 50 GB disc. HD DVD cannot surpass that without going to the experimental third layer to hit 51 GB...and reports from sources are that the first two generations of Toshiba HD DVD players won't be compatible with that. The partners in Blu-ray (such as TDK) are working on 100 GB discs, with 200 GB the theoretical limit. Blu-ray has a scratch resistant coating developed by TDK (and others) that make them much more scratch resistant than DVD ever was; HD DVD uses the same disc coating technology as DVD and is not scratch resistant standard. At the moment, Blu-ray is generally more expensive than the HD DVD units, but that will change. Just buy a PS3 and you'll have one of the best Blu-ray players on the market but also a great game system that is getting better every month (and is literally going to smoke in 2008). If not via the PS3, you can pick the deck of your choice from Denon, LG, Panasonic, Philips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, and many more to come. You can't say that about HD DVD because its all about Toshiba, Toshiba, and Toshiba.
Oct. 14, 2007, 11:07 p.m. CST
I liked *The Black Dahlia* but mainly because of Jemima Rooper. It could have used a whole lot more of Jemima Rooper...
Oct. 14, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST
Get over the viral spewing. Seriously, it's obvious.
Oct. 14, 2007, 11:29 p.m. CST
Like in Mission: Impossible? "This Playstation is going to self-destruct in 2008..." <p> Just playin' with ya. Great breakdown above on HD vs BR, by the way. I love when people actually know the facts. <p> Jae??? Do you have any information to add? Anything to prove Mr. Lynx wrong? Jae? <p> Guess not.
Oct. 15, 2007, 1:38 a.m. CST
I've had the copy for near two weeks now. After watching the flick 3 times (collectively with myself, then with friends, then with family) I finally managed to hit the extras. I still have to get to the commentary, but thus far the DVD is one of the best I've seen for an action flick. <p> Story-wise, yes.. the ongoing debate. I'm a Die Hard G1 fan that actually understood WHY design changes were made. So the movie itself, yes, has flaws. But no different than any other blockbuster that we've enjoyed throughout the years (ID4, Men in Black, Spider-Man, etc.). But the whole In Name Only crap is bullshit. We were given robots that Transform (a beautiful sight mind you). We were given Autobots and Decepticons. We were given Prime and Megatron, along with the others and a couple of new ones. So TINO is a load of crap. <p> Sorry, back to the DVD. <P> First off, when you watch the flick, scan through to the end of the credits, let it play out, and you'll get the trailers plus the IRON MAN trailer, which looks fantastic. <p> The extras are seperated between various headings (Our World, Their War, etc.). Each displaying their own take on the various aspects of the production. <p> Yes, Bay and Shia give a shout out to AICN and fanboys in general. And I've gotta tip my hat to them, they do it well and respectfully, while still sticking to their guns. <p> If anything, the DVD really showcases Bay and what he is truly capable of. He's no Kazan and he doesn't think he is. But this DVD truly showcases that yes, this man has talent and vision, and does shit that most other directors can't do. It sounds like I'm a Bay apologist. Hell no. I HATE what he did to Pearl Harbor. I liked the first half of Armeggedon... if that. Bad Boys 2 was kind of lame. The Island was underrated, BUT not nearly as bad as the aforementioned. But hey, Bay WAS the right guy for Transformers. <p> Steven Spielberg thankfully contributes to the DVD with some intros. He speaks of his love for Transformers because his kids grew up with them. He used to play with them because of that. Fun to see Spielberg talking about something that was clearly out of his generation. <p> This is probably the BEST DVD collection of extras that take you behind the scenes of how hardcore action is shot. Breathtaking to see these scenes mapped out and then executed. Would be a blast (pun intended) to be on a Bay set. And KUDOS to Bay for sticking to as much real action as he could. Fact is, if it's not a Transformer transforming, it's real. Vehicles flipping. Explosions. Buses being ripped in half. ALL REAL. You don't see too much of that today. But to see how these sequences are shot is truly amazing. <p> The DVD also showcases Shia throughout. It's clear that Shia is a take no shit kind of actor with charm and humor abound. He's not even afraid to call out Bay. <p> Also, you'll learn WHY they made those concept design changes. Even the Flames are explained, and I have to say, that decision makes sense. There is a perfectly logical explanation why those flames were needed. Also, the whole VW Bug Bumblebee, or lack there of, controversy. Explained. And I agree 100%. They basically said, yeah, Bumblebee is NOT going to be a VW Bug. It's too Hermie, as Bay said. <P> So yeah, this is a great DVD. Harry's right, watching this flick on DVD is so much better. I disagree that certain sequences were too busy... if anything, there's more to enjoy... more jaw dropping shit that happens and that's why DVD is the perfect venue for a flick like this. <p> I just wish the DVD had a fanboy editing tool that allowed us to watch the movie void of John Tuturro's awful performance, 99% of the Sector 7 storyline, 50% of the hacker storylines, and that few minute scene around Sam's house that basically put the Autobots into a sitcom-like atmosphere. Beyond those mishaps, the movie is a kickass ride and a great start to a fresh new franchise.
Oct. 15, 2007, 1:43 a.m. CST
i know its slowly killing me but I can't stop.
Oct. 15, 2007, 3:11 a.m. CST
I believe your last paragraph summed up what us haters hated about the movie. The fanboy editing would give about one half hour episode with commecials. Maybe Bay's talents would be better served on T.V. Beyond all that, how the hell do you get John Tuturro in a movie and not have him be awesome. To keep things nice (unheard of, I know.) I do appreciate your overview of the DVD itself. I own Tomb Raider so this won't be the WORST movie I have purchased, I'll just have to offset it with seven copies of The State next week so I can sleep at night.
Oct. 15, 2007, 6:02 a.m. CST
by half vader
Jeez you guys. Some films are shot on grainier stocks, and on purpose! All that matters is that the picture and sound are true to the original film. Same with colour and sound. <p> The PS3 just dropped by 350 bucks in Australia (the 40 gig version). So I guess the $399 version IS coming to the U.S. after all.
Oct. 15, 2007, 6:40 a.m. CST
That´s a bad action movie.
Oct. 15, 2007, 7:14 a.m. CST
...much less the shot. That whole sequence was scrapped, man. Just admit you're wrong.
Oct. 15, 2007, 7:50 a.m. CST
The State comes out next week? I knew it was coming, but I didn't even think a release date was set. Are you sure? (I'll be happy as a pig in shit if you're right, though...)
Oct. 15, 2007, 7:56 a.m. CST
I have a better idea. Don't listen to me or to some hack on a message board. Look at both formats and decide for yourself. That's all that really counts, right? As for the Viral stuff, I've seen enough of it over the last few months. If Sony isn't worried then why do they need to pull this crap? On a side note. Saw that Best Buy marked most of the older Blu Ray titles down to 14.99 Sunday.
Oct. 15, 2007, 9:04 a.m. CST
by John Maddening
Dammit, that's such a great movie. The best thing about BNAT2! I so hope to see it again sometime soon!
Oct. 15, 2007, 9:30 a.m. CST
by Abominable Snowcone
because it sucked in the script. He just did what was called for. I ain't sayin' it's right, but there ya go. I agree with you, though--I could have done without him, most of the Sector 7, and almost all of the hacker nonsense. I liked the "hide from mom and dad" stuff,though.
Oct. 15, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST
by Abominable Snowcone
Sorry, but I just have a plain old regular TV and a plain old regular DVD player. I'm not spending $30 to own a movie I probably already paid to see in the theatre just because it has better resolution. I'm not debating that it DOES; I know it does. It's just that the difference isn't worth it to me to pay almost double. It's bad enough when a "special edition" Spidey 3 or Tranformers 2 DVD set costs $23 or whatever. I don't know anyone who has Blu Ray or HD. Are they really that popular, or are they today's minidiscs? I mean, lookit Harry. He admitted with HD he still had to watch Transformers in slo-mo to appreciate the action.
Oct. 15, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST
in stupid gadgets every year ... but I'm not buying a GD HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player until someone settles the damn format dispute. And once they do, I'm not spending $30 to buy the damn movie either. So until then, both formats can blow me.
Oct. 15, 2007, 11:03 a.m. CST
Fuck you, Harry, and your constant HD-DVD whore campaign. Hell, the LEAST you could do is give BOTH formats their due. Whatever. You can have your Transformers, man. I'll be coasting back here in another month watching all three versions of Close Encounters in 1080p as a Blu-Ray exclusive while you're freeze-framing CGI.
Oct. 15, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST
If the Weinsteins are sueing folks over the use of the word Grindhouse, then I'm going to make a movie called "Badly dubbed and edited, formerly cool Asian Action flick" and sue the shit out of the Weinsteins.
Oct. 15, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST
That is all. =)
Oct. 15, 2007, 11:40 a.m. CST
Harry has still not corrected the false information about RETURN TO THE HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL. It was maybe naive of me but I thought this site could be trusted, and I thought Harry would be above being partisan in the format war. It seems I was wrong. I'm prepared to believe that AICN is not actually being paid to shill for HD-DVD but he is nonetheless pushing the format for his own reasons. Very disappointing.
Oct. 15, 2007, 11:57 a.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
I have seen this movie quite a bit. I was very much into it when it was in the theaters and due to having way too much time on my hands, I saw it there a number of times. The entire sequence in which Vic Morrow is carrying two infant vietnemese children was pulled from the movie in respect to the familys even though the entire sequence was shot and filmed. I applaud them not putting this in the movie as it would serve no purpose and would only anger family and friends of the victims. Not to mention that you can barely make out what had happened because one second you see Vic Morrow and the next second you hear a large noise and pretty much just see the bottom half of the Huey. It's almost like a photographic trick from the 50's 60's in which they cut to make it appear like it materialized out of nowhere. So if Harry is saying ( and I read that review and thought WTF? when he mentioned it ) that the scene is in the movie, he is either mistaken or they have done something truly horrible to this movie and I will be very upset if they do. Now the scene may be in the special features as a historical perspective. Though I can't understand why. But the scene definitely was not in the original movie as screened when it originally was released. No offense Harry, just that I am very much into movie production (duh) and I know that I am right on this. But I would be interested if anyone has purchased the new HD-DVD or BLU-RAY release and explain if they have tampered with the movie in anyway. I truly despise when studios screw around with the original product other than to clean up the image and present it in the best quality. Unless the original is so badly damaged that you have to recreate things you should not change these movies without making it perfectly clear on the packaging.
Oct. 15, 2007, 12:07 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
Hey croweyes, why don't you get a fucking life. Harry has explained multiple times why he chose HD-DVD and how he intends to purchase BLU-RAY when he can afford it. Just because you paid $1000 or $600 dollars for your BLU-RAY player doesn't mean everyone else has to. I have both formats but I don't call people who buy one or the other names because of their choice. Harry may have been a little off on some of his original reasons for choosing HD-DVD ( for the record I prefer HD-DVD ) but I blame that more on the fact that there are way too many dumb ass fanboys saying things like "BLU-RAY is the only HD format that supports "insert dumb ass lie here"" Don't get me wrong, there are just as many embarrassing HD-DVD supporters. But you 14 year olds should stop screwing around with your parents video equipment and go do your homework, because we are tired of hearing your whiny little bitch asses. If you don't agree with Harry or have a problem with alternative view points, then you should just reach over and unplug your internet connection because that is all that is on the internet. Don't like it, STFUP and LEAVE!
Oct. 15, 2007, 12:22 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
Once one of these formats come out your going to see the same crap you do now with DVD, that is you will get lame ass transfers and then they will come out with Special editions or SuperBit BLU-RAY or HD-DVD's. The studios are after one thing. Money. The tech heads are not the ones that call the shots and while one player can have a higher bit rate than another it doesn't mean dick if say in the example of the original Fifth Element transfer for BLU-RAY you sit on your ass and do nothing to clean the picture etc. A crappy looking transfer at 54 MB will still look crappy. Now I have both formats and the Curse of the Black Pearl looks pretty awesome. But since it's not out on HD-DVD I can't compare it. Fact is that 54MB bitrate on MPEG2 might make quite a difference to 36MB bitrate on MPEG2. However, most of the movies you will be watching will be in VC1 and when dealing with that codec it's going to be pretty hard to see the difference between 54MB and 36MB especially if the format war continues because the films that are released on both formats (and possibly studios might hedge their bets and encode the films in a compatible format for both) will be the exact same encoded material, meaning that the maximum peak bitrate that "could" have been used will most likely not be used to keep from encoding the film twice. So until this format war is over, at least half the movies that could be available on BLU-RAY will only be as good as their HD-DVD counterparts. But hey this format war is good for consumers right?
Oct. 15, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
"Once one of these formats comes out as the winner" is what the first line should have read. :)
Oct. 15, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST
by Bob Dobbs
Pretty much describes any of Harry's senseless "reviews".
Oct. 15, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST
by Wu Fang
Oct. 15, 2007, 2:38 p.m. CST
"I hypothesize that they’ll be on a later release of the “Theatrical Experience” – but we’ll see. " <p>Wow, what a brave prediction! Going out on a limb with your hypothesis much, Harry?
Oct. 15, 2007, 2:43 p.m. CST
Actually, I am 28 years old. I'm also a writer with dvdauthority.com. And as for opposing viewpoints, I am all for them. I'm just not a fan of a column that shamelessly sings the praises of one HD media format while completely ignoring the other. It's something that's forgivable in some instances, but not, in my opinion, in the case of a site on which many (maybe not you, but many) might potentially base their buying decisions. I didn't call anyone a name. I just said fuck him and his HD-DVD whore campaign. Lambast me all you want, but that's exactly what it is. Oh, and I paid $400 for my PS3 on craigslist, by the way. 60GB, unused. And that was when the HD-A20 (the most comparable HD-DVD model considering it's the lowest end model that actually outputs a native 1080p signal vs. the 1080i maximum supported by the A2) was $399. Oh, and I have a 17-month-old son, so please don't presume to tell me my money grows on trees, okay? Thanks.
Oct. 15, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST
the weekend is over. I know Monday's a bitch but since I don't give a fuck about the format feud, all I want is your opinion about Hollow Man. Or even better: give me Verhoeven's email adress, and I'll ask myself, in case you don't wanna review it^^
Oct. 15, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST
by eric haislar
Good for you man. I just ran into a women i use to work with this weekend. She had it done and I barley recognized her. Live long and healthy man. No matter how its done.
Oct. 15, 2007, 3:26 p.m. CST
A few weeks ago I met a girl I was hangin out with years before, she lost something like 180 pounds (complete with breast surgery and all the shit) and SHE'S SO FUCKING HOT NOW!!! I feel like Jack Black in Shallow Hal: I'm ashamed of myself but I never considered a phone call until I saw how healthy and gorgeous she looks now. I'm a phallocrat.
Oct. 15, 2007, 5:30 p.m. CST
the music...the cinematography...and that fight with the robots. All in all....beautiful film. I grew up with the anime movie - taped it off of the old sci-fi channel when it played anime back in the dizay.
Oct. 15, 2007, 6:23 p.m. CST
Yes, a lot of Blu-ray's first titles were encoded in MPEG-2, unfortunately. At the same bitrate, MPEG-2 is inferior in quality to both Microsoft's VC-1 and the industry standard H.264 MPEG-4 AVC. But...you can't beat an H.264 encoded high bitrate transfer on Blu-ray that nearly maxes out the spec...HD DVD certainly cannot. And many of the current Sony titles are doing just that. I've always thought that *Hellboy* was a mediocre flick, and that its third act was essentially the third act from the original *Blade*. However, it is one fine Blu-ray title. Sony did crank up the bitrate on that H.264 transfer, and it is stunning. But Disney/Buena Vista is doing an even better job - at least consistently - with their Blu-ray releases. I've yet to see any of their titles not encoded in H.264 ('cept for some reason the bonus features on *Wild Hogs* are in VC-1) and the *Pirates* films are especially beautiful to view. The best way to comprehend the bitrate and codec differences are to do an analogy with the popular audio codecs. MP3 is the defacto standard, yet it isn't the most efficient or even the highest quality audio. At the same bitrate, say at 128Kbps, the same file encoded in AAC (or OGG) will sound better than the corresponding MP3 (even if it is VBR). As you crank up that bitrate, there's especially no contest (say if you go to 256Kbps or even 320Kbps). Of course, since we are also talking about uncompressed audio abilities on Blu-ray, then you want to adapt the analogy to lossless audio codecs - meaning no compression - like FLAC or Apple Lossless. What I find disappointing is that one particular studio - Warner Home Video - won't release their Blu-ray titles using a high bitrate transfer. They release their Blu-ray titles encoded using the same low-bitrate VC-1 transfer as their HD DVD releases. That's artificially throttling their quality and leads the uninformed to say "hey, both formats look the same!" It really cheeses me off. As for one of my earlier posts where I stated the PS3 would be smoking in 2008, that is accurate. How else are you going to describe the console when titles like *Kill Zone* and *Metal Gear Solid 4* debut? No, the machine is not literally going to smoke; that would be the current crop (non 65nm "Falcon" models) of Xbox 360s when they succomb to the "red ring of death" that [reportedly] affects 36% of them. After all, Microsoft didn't extend the warranty to 3 years just out of the kindness of their monopolistic hearts...not to mention the $1.5 billion they had to set aside to pay for it... Heh.
Oct. 15, 2007, 6:27 p.m. CST
If you want to jump on the Blu-ray bandwagon, be sure to pick up a player with the Blu-ray Profile 1.1. That becomes standard on all players released after October 31st. That gives all the interactive features of HD DVD to Blu-ray, if that is what interests you. Of course, the PS3 will be able to do that with the upcoming firmware update which is rumored to hit the net on October 30th.
Oct. 15, 2007, 6:31 p.m. CST
...If you want guaranteed backward compatibility with the PS2. You can still snag the 60GB model at $499 which features hardware backward compatibility with the PS2 (that's the one I have). Although software compatibility should be equally as good with the 80GB model (currently $599) which is packed with *Motor Storm*. I just know that I personally would skip the $399 model. The Bluetooth based remote control for the Blu-ray/DVD movies costs $24.99 separately, but you can use the regular controllers if you want to play your high def movies ghetto-style, albeit ghetto-style using Bluetooth.
Oct. 15, 2007, 6:37 p.m. CST
I'm not viral spewing. I just want to set the record straight; not to mention seeing the best format win. I'm tired of being stuck with the VHS's of the consumer electronics world. Its bad enough that Windows won too. If I were viral spewing, I'd be singing the praises of the Zune while collecting a check from Redmond.
Oct. 15, 2007, 7:08 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
seriously talk about a fucking nit picky load of looking for something to attack him about bullshit. he has an hddvd player. he doesn't have a blu ray. WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK???
Oct. 15, 2007, 9:06 p.m. CST
You're assuming Blu-Ray is better. I don't think it is. They don't even have their specs set yet. That's something that should have been set from the beginning. There's a reason why VHS won over Beta, besides the Porn industry. Reliability. Beta was Notorious for that. The fact is, Sony should have had this in the bag from the start, but they've botched everything about as badly as you can botch it. The fact that there even is a format war is because of their arrogance and ineptness.
Oct. 15, 2007, 9:23 p.m. CST
...that chaps my ass. I'm sitting there, getting ready to watch a movie and have to wait for the freaking LOADING SCREEN?! HD DVD players may be slow to get going, but there aren't any freaking LOAD SCREENS! Okay, okay...take a deep breath. Whew...
Oct. 15, 2007, 10:39 p.m. CST
The format war is not because of Sony; it is because of Toshiba and their greed over their retaining their DVD patent portfolio. Sony tried to get the majority of the DVD Forum to start working on the HD format replacement just as soon as DVD itself was ratified. It was Toshiba that tried to launch HD DVD using red laser technology whereas Blu-ray was always meant to use the next-gen laser tech (hence the name). Did Toshiba play a role in developing H.264? Not to my knowledge. They just whored themselves out to Microsoft to push their tech and take their bags o' cash just to spite Sony & Co. Look at the AVS Forums. Who is it that is collecting information about HD DVD owners having problems with the overpriced DVD/HD DVD Combo Discs? Is it Toshiba? Nope. It is Microsoft. Why is that? Who exactly is calling the shots for that platform? Toshiba is just the next Sendo. Look it up. Or better yet, Sega. Remember the Dreamcast? The development of it was bankrolled by Microsoft. It ran WindowsCE as the OS. And Microsoft forced Sega to switch GPU chip companies from 3dfx (which Sega owned stock in) to NEC. What did Microsoft get out of the deal? Experience in the video game console industry on the cheap. What did it cost Sega? It cost them being a video game hardware manufacturer. The same is going to happen to Toshiba in consumer electronics. First they had to cut support to their Gigabeat MP3 player line to help Microsoft with the Zune. So yeah, I have quite a bit of reason to hope for Blu-ray to win. It is better tech from the start. You can claim it is unfinished, but that is just in the gimmick "interactive" features. I'd rather that be unfinished than to be using a platform that has already hit its limits, that being HD DVD. Toshiba can't exactly go back to the drawing board with it and increase its bit rate transfer capacity without making the existing players obsolete. As for Beta, it only failed because Sony tried to keep it exclusive. Compare that now to Blu-ray which almost the entire industry - aside from Toshiba - supports.
Oct. 15, 2007, 11:44 p.m. CST
But I thought you said Toshiba was the sole HD DVD supporter. Never mind Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks, and the DVD Forum. But hey, besides them, that's almost the entire industry with Blu Ray support, right? Man, you're starting to ramble. Do you see Bill Gates in your sleep? If you have a problem with Windows, there's a real simple solution-don't use it. I don't.
Oct. 15, 2007, 11:49 p.m. CST
Toshiba is pretty much the sole HD DVD hardware supporter, unless you count the expensive Samsung and LG Blu-ray players that also play HD DVD. They even make the Xbox 360 add-on drive. That is what I meant. Sorry it wasn't clear enough. As for the DVD Forum, well, most of them are members of the Blu-ray Disc Association, and shipping Blu-ray decks, so YMMV. As for Microsoft, yeah, I h8 mediocrity. Although I don't have a problem with Office, other than its lame formatting errors that make 100 page documents a nightmare.
Oct. 16, 2007, 12:57 a.m. CST
...and all the format specs you regurgitate don't change what sI've noticed while comparing movies side to side, or my opinion about which format looks best to my eyes.
Oct. 16, 2007, 1:53 a.m. CST
by super Cucaracha
I am there dude!
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:34 a.m. CST
I give you big points for responding in a more civil manner than I addressed you, which was childish, and I apologize. You are a rare breed on AICN Talkbacks, sir. My hat is off to you. <p> One thing I want to make clear that I don't think I've ever pointed out in these forums, is that I do not prefer BluRay because I think HDDVD is the lesser format. The truth is, I don't imagine I'll ever say HD is technically bad in any way - I don't honestly know enough about codecs and HD compression and VC-1 or whatever to say that one sports a superior set of specs. So for me, the comparison between the two formats visually is a non-issue. I think they both **look** spectacular. My issue is the "political" situation between the two. I'm just like everyone else who says they're holding out until there's a clear winner in the war; I don't want to buy one just to see it phased out another year later. I have always intended to base my decision on which format stands the best chance at real longevity (or success.) And to that end, BluRay had it in the bag until HD (rather underhandedly, IMO, but hey, that's big business,) paid Paramount to ditch BD and threw the WHOLE situation into a big, ugly mess.<p> Quote specs to me all day long, but all I really cared about was this: "Fox, Sony, MGM, and Disney are all Blu-Ray Exclusive. Warners, New Line and Paramount will be issuing titles on both formats. Universal is the only studio not releasing on Blu-Ray at all." That was it. Decision made. With only one studio not onboard for one side, and all the others tipped to the other side, I knew which one I wanted, because it seemed obvious which format could weather the storm. And so I was all set for Blu-Ray. And then Toshiba and Microsoft did what I guess they had to do for HD to survive by sticking their flag in Paramount, but it does NOBODY in the consumer base any favors - HD people would have already seen those Paramount / Dreamworks titles released on their format, while BD people are now SOL. <p> Like I said, the format war was essentially over. I doubt HDDVD could have thrived much over the holiday season, had things played out the way they were, but Toshiba ensured they would get a second chance. And all that does for us is guarantee we'll be stuck in this stupid format debate for the forseeable future. And TONS of people who were waiting for all the smoke to clear so they could find the last man standing - well, all they got is a lot more smoke. <p> That's why I still favor Blu-Ray. But OTOH, if something crazy does happen, and all the studios decide to go format-nuetral (yeah, right,) I'll take another look at HD and see if maybe I've been wrong. Hard to imagine, though.
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:43 a.m. CST
...on the whole HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray debate, I submit this information: <p> Over 3800 American troops have been killed in Iraq so far. The vast majority of Americans see no need for us to stay in Iraq, let alone continue to lose soldiers. And Congress can't even agree that the armed forces staying there and dying for no good reason needs to end. <p> Yeah, so... format war. Big deal.
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:51 a.m. CST
I'm just going by what darkhorizons.com has posted. Could be wrong but it makes my work day more serene just thinking about it. If it doesn't though, I guess I'll just have to have a Reno:911! / Stella marathon. I can't lose.
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:51 a.m. CST
I'm just going by what darkhorizons.com has posted. Could be wrong but it makes my work day more serene just thinking about it. If it doesn't though, I guess I'll just have to have a Reno:911! / Stella marathon. I can't lose.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:50 a.m. CST
Harry is completely free to come out for HD, that's up to him. But what he says about RETURN TO THE HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL is, plain and simple, a LIE. It is designed to MISLEAD people who come to this site for informed news and recommendations. He has not had the decency to correct this. The Digital Bits is obviously biased towards Blu-Ray but even they shy short of lying to their readers about what is available on each format. This information amounts to A BREACH OF TRUST on Harry's part and you should all be concerned about this, no matter which HD format you support. It speaks very badly of Harry's character.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:44 a.m. CST
exclusives all the stores are pimping. But I guess you play favorites....
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:43 a.m. CST
Yeah, right back at yah. It's too bad most talkbacks like this dissolve into childish fanboy rants. It's nice to have a civilized conversation for once. I have to say, before either format was released, I was definitely in the Blu-Ray camp. I looked at the spec sheet and the studio support, like everyone else, and I thought it was a shoe in. I purchased an entry level HD-DVD player as a 'stop gap' until the real format launched. I also purchased three movies with it, The Phantom of the Opera, The Last Samari, and Serenity. I was blown away, to say the least. I know some had issues with the player skipping, but I never did. Then again, I tossed the remote as soon as I could. I was excited about the picture quality and I thought if HD looked this good, then how good will Blu-Ray look? Well ... heh ... First came the Samsung debacle. Then came a slue of bad transfers, including the first version of The Fifth Element, which shipped with Sony's stand alone player. There was the lack of solidified specs, so most of the Blu Ray titles had little or no extra content. And, by and large, most titles looked inferior to HD-DVD. And then I had a stand alone Sony player that couldn't play all of the titles, due to the changing specs (this has since been patched, I understand). Eventually I took the stand-alone back and got a Playstation 3. I still don't see any difference in picture quality between the two formats, even now. In the end, I was surprised at how badly Sony mismanaged this, coupled with the poor launch of the Playstation 3 (I have yet to see a game on that platform that was worth the investment). Say what you want about Microsoft (and I can think a few four letter words for their Windows crap) they built a better game machine, pure and simple. It was better designed from the get-go. And they made it simple for developers to program for. That's something Sony has never learned (I remember it took a good year for any decent games for the Playstation 2 to come out). Anyway, say what they want about the specs sheets for Blu-Ray, I simply don't trust Sony to handle this format. I honestly don't think they know what they are doing. And, from what I've seen, I think HD-DVD is still the better format. In the end, I think what will really determine a winner, if there is one, is whoever can produce the first sub $200 player. Your average Joe Farmer isn't going to spend $400 or $600 dollars for a media player that may or may not make a difference on the current tv they own. But they might if the said player is reasonably priced. Oh, and I agree whole heartedly on the 'importance' of a format war when we have so many real issues at hand. But that's my humble opinion.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST
They couldn't even fit the high quality audio on there... http://tinyurl.com/yry5b4 Let's all support the obviously superior format, which is blu-ray. HD-DVD had a good initial run, but it's fucking you over in the end... you wanted to save a buck and you may very well end up paying more to replace your shit once blu-ray proves its worth. Triple layer 51 GB HD-DVDs likely won't work on all existing players and Toshiba's giving us 100GB quad layer BD that they claim is guaranteed to work on all existing players... Do the world a favor and support the obviously better technology. Everyone wins... except stubborn HD-DVD owners...
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:04 p.m. CST
We get to hear the slurping noises of Harry's mouth firmly implanted on Eli Roth's (cut off testicles??? is he really that HARD CORE!) Am I the only one who sees that Cabin Fever is his best film? Hostel 2 was about as scary as the trailer for the Grudge or that Buffy semi Sequel of the Grudge set in Texas, or the Grudge 2 (sorry never thought it was worth my time to see any of those movies). Hostel 2 though was just another experiment in being let down. I mean when a scene from last weeks Greys Anatomy was more terrifying and Realistic then anything in Hostel 2. I think its time for Harry to admit to Eli (because I know you know that he ISN'T that amazing) that he really needs to fucking kick us in the balls and make sure we feel it for what ever his next feature is. You know what Eli make a movie about creepy Old people, All Senior Citizens Should Have Life Alert!
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:36 p.m. CST
As a reviewer of DVDs - I get sent TONS of films that I never intend to keep - TRANSFORMERS isn't one of those - My nephew happens to love it and I'm the sort of uncle that won't shit on his opinion. <BR><BR>As for putting links to all forms available on a title - ok - beginning this next week, I'll attempt it - the part of this I dislike the most about these articles is looking up all the links, it isn't a conspiracy, it's actually about being lazy. However, I'll endeavor to do better.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:20 p.m. CST
Loved that film. Especially the SciFi Channel's Queen of B Flicks/Italian(-American) Goddess Cerina Vincent in it. Oh Cerina, how I long for you in HD goodness on Blu-ray. Even if you have "timber fever", having appeared in like 20 zillion films about BigFoot which tend to lack the appropriate amount of beef jerky in them for some odd reason. Oh how I'd like to be the meat in an Italian sandwich made up of Cerina Vincent and Monica Bellucci.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:27 p.m. CST
She's in that *Return to House on Haunted Hill*...
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:52 a.m. CST
1) Toshiro, try dvdfanboy.com for info about the store exclusive discs and such. The actual site is never updated, but there's a handful of us that try to keep news going on the forum. 2) Casshern was unwatchable crap. One of the very few movies in over three decades of movie-watching that I just flat gave up on and never finished. 3) Harry missed the biggest DVD release of all for this week: Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Runnin' Down a Dream. So far, it's only available at Best Buy. Four disc boxed set, two for the 260 (!) minute documentary, which is awesome, disc three for the Gainsville homecoming concert, and the fourth a CD of live and rare tracks. I saw this one in a theater Monday night, and it's the quickest, most engaging four hours plus you could ever spend watching a movie. I really hope that the nationwide "one night only" thing qualifies it for the Oscars; it's easily the best documentary I've seen all year, possibly the best film, period, for 2007.
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:38 a.m. CST
by Mace Tofu
Standing in the HD section with TRANSFORMERS HD-DVD ($26.99) in hand so the guys looking for it in BluRay could see I had it lol. I notice one guy walk over from the BluRay side and pick up a HD disc of TRANSFORMERS and I asked him what player he had, "a PS3" he said. I told him it would not play in his player. He cursed SONY and I showed him the SD DVD on the end-cap. funny. I picked up PLANET TERROR for $14.99( + a $5 off coupon for DEATH PROOF) DUNE HD-DVD $19.99 and FROM BEYOND for $14.99 ( I was worried about FROM BEYOND because the back of the DVD only listed the NON- Anamorphic widescreen logo from 1997 - like the recent STAR WARS OV DVDs- but the movie was Anamorphic! and uncut!) All 4 of these looked great in the HD DVD player. I saw TRANSFORMERS twice in the theater and I have to say the HD TV blew away the theater. It's like looking out a window sometimes it is so clear. Anyway keep bitchin' about bitrates lol
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:23 a.m. CST
Transformers! With "sublimnal ads" like GMC, Mountain dew, Nokia, and even an transforming Xbox 360. Besides that I liked the film with the exception of anthony anderson's over the top role as the uber nerd, Robots sneaking around the house and those annoying witwicky parents. The music sounds too much like the Rock (well it is a micheal bay film)and it would have been cool if Josh Durnhell and Tyresse Gibson had ambiguous roles as GI Joes' Duke and Roadblock respectivley. And I second M-O-M's commet; Casshern is seriously underated. I found the "hidden" pro-life, Anti war and genetic manipulaion themes fascinating. And where the hell are the other grindhouse trailers? PT only had Machette..WTF!
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:24 a.m. CST
I am not going to deny the technological breakthrough that this movie brought to the world. I will say, however, that it is racist and a sign that things were really bad then. The fact that something like that was thought of as entertainment is frightening. Not that they are all that great now.
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:47 a.m. CST
No shock here, but Rodriguez states in his "10 Minute Flick School" that his "10 Minute Cooking School" will return in the upcoming 2-disc Grindhouse DVD.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:24 a.m. CST
Honest to god slow down the transformations, holy shit the details and amount of parts moving, it was one thing in the movies but slow that thing down and see for yourself.. It's crazy how they did it.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:30 a.m. CST
Casshern had (at max) 5 minutes of robot/human action (probably 1/2 of which is worth anything) and the rest was 100% mindnumbing existentialistic BS using anime style deus ex machina that translates poorly (to say the least). It is far from under-rated ------------> if you want under-rated and criminally over-looked, go watch Electric Dragon 80000V.
Oct. 17, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST
HD DVD is failing miserably... more people are jumping on the blu ray ship everyday, cept for Harry, cause he hasnt been given a free machine to jizz over. One guy on here said blu ray is grainy.. maybe on his POS westinghouse tv... All the HD-DVD movies i have rented or purchased have been crap. Saturation is horrible, its grainy as hell, some look better than others, but it depends on the various codecs that they encode it in. I have had many HD-DVDs not work in my machine cause of that. Everytime i play a blu ray.. it plays with no problems. just rented The Invisble from netflix and it looks good... plus all the good movies are coming on blu ray. I know Frys had a sale on blu ray movies the other day, some were $9.99... i picked up a ton of them. like the remastered edition of fifth element and bram stokers dracula which looks amazing on blu ray. I know ill be buying the new Blade Runner on blu ray, cause HD-DVD is a waste of money... thank god they are losing this battle.. fuck Toshiba and their shitty format.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:11 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
Croweyes, sorry about my response but your post simply seemed like yet another Sony Fanboy's complaints. It's rare that it is not the case, so sorry about the flame. Harry was misinformed like alot of people on BOTH sides of this format war. I read or hear every day things that make me fume that people don't do any research before picking one side or another. If it wasn't for owning an XBOX 360 and a PS3 (for game first), I wouldn't have either of these formats as I refuse to pay the money both of these groups are demanding for what pretty much amounts to better picture and sound and a pack of lies on top of both of them. Look at the current state of DVD. Movies still are released on the 4.7GB single layer format! Movies still come out with little to no special features! Double Dipping occurs on a consistent basis, sometimes even resulting in the dreaded Triple Dip! I have only purchased any of these movies because like alot of you once I saw one of these movies in high definition it was impossible to go back to DVD if there was an alternative.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:17 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
While movie sales have been listed by Nielsen (laugh, choke) as BLU-RAY beating out HD-DVD 2:1 (not specific but to the point) why are HD-DVD Players again outselling BLU-RAY Players. Sorry but you don't get to claim that the addon doesn't count for the 360 but the PS3 counts for BLU-RAY. Mom and Pop everybody aren't buying PS3's to watch BLU-RAY's although anybody who has a PS3 is probably using it to play more BLU-RAY discs than normal due to the lack of good games out for the PS3 at the moment. As for these people jumping on the BLU-RAY ship, please enlighten use to who exactly your referring to. The last big jump I heard about was Paramount moving to HD-DVD. Granted it may only be over money and for 18 months (according to rumors) but 18 months is a long time not to get Transformers on BLU-RAY. I have both so I don't care because I got tired of waiting but I still choose HD-DVD over BLU-RAY because sony doesn't down mix TRUEHD or DTSHD down to 5.1. On my receiver I can only get the higher quality audio in 2.0 channel stereo which blows.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
Sony and others have stated the same kinds of confusion as to whether or not the 100GB discs will play in all players. But since those aren't out either it doesn't really matter. As early adopters we are used to having to buy multiple versions of hardware for file formats etc. Look at the damn DVD+R / -R BS for gods sake. But at least HD-DVD for me didn't cost $1000 and then find out that it may not support the interactive features that Sony touted so highly (without having BD Java even finished yet) Both of these formats have their strengths and weaknesses. I chose HD-DVD because they made it mandatory that once they have figured out "managed copy" it will be required on all HD-DVD discs. Where as SONY went the "extra" copy protection route. Whichever of these two formats is hacked to be ripped on a consistent basis will end up winning for that reason alone.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:32 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
SONY had a chance to make this a solidified format, but they wouldn't go with the interactivity layer that had been chosen for HD-DVD. You know, the one that worked out of the gate and was supported by some of the largest PC software and hardware manufacturers. SONY is a lot like Apple in regards to the religous fervor that sometimes surrounds the Playstations (like macs) and the fanboy attitude that generally drives away more people than it attracts. I'm sure if you google HD-DVD BLU-RAY negotiations you'll find what I'm talking about. If i am wrong, please post links that prove Toshiba was the holdout and I'll gladly state they were idiots over it.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
This is from HD DVD Review and doesn't bode well for HD-DVD. "Indeed, I had the opportunity to attend a special 'Transformers' media event with Paramount late last week, and the question was asked almost immediately -- why no Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed PCM? The studio's answer was that due to space limitations on the disc, the decision was made to limit the audio to Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 Surround only (here at 1.5mbps). Unfortunately, this confirms the long-held theory that the 30Gb capacity of an HD-30 dual-layer HD DVD disc has forced studios to choose between offering a robust supplements package (as they've done here) and the very best in audio quality." While the Dolby Digital is at 1.5 MB which is nearly twice as high as the standard DVD audio format it's still going to be a sticking point especially on longer movies such as LOTR. Although I'm sure Jackson will only have the movie only such as they did with the Extended DVD's that were released. If New Line doesn't screw it up that is. Although theres no reason they couldn't have put the Extras on a second Disc. Or heaven forbid, release a version without the special features but with the maximum room for video and sound. I'm sure we'll see a superbit type of HD-DVD / BLU-RAY soon enough, to attract those of us who want the best possible picture and sound where it counts, "The Movie" If this becomes standard on HD-DVD then I'll have to agree that it's in trouble. But I have both so I'll have to see what happens.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:29 p.m. CST
Thanks - I appreciate the heads up!
Oct. 17, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST
I mean, really. Shut the fuck up already.
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:47 p.m. CST
Finally rented (in plain old DVD thank you) and watched last night, and I really enjoyed it. If I was a thirteen year old that was dropped on my head at birth. The "you've got to be fucking kidding" scene, that did it for me was when the boombox robot "snuck" away from Air Force One. It might as well been saying, "Nope, nothing to see here, don't look this way, just a friendly robot walking by..nope, nothing suspiscious here.." I'll admit Bay got the 150 million on the screen, and the stuntwork was well done, but it was dumb...dumb....DUMB
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:51 p.m. CST
and is supposed to be kick ass action. Has anyone seen this?
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:55 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
Um, WTF? If you don't like reading about HD-DVD vs BLU-RAY you had pretty much better give up reading about DVD reviews for the next 3 to 4 years. Because your going to have some people mention HD-DVD and some people mention BLU-RAY as well. I can take it that you don't care because A: you don't have an HDTV and B: You don't have either a HDDVD Player or a BLU-RAY player. But otherwise get over it, cuz people are going to talk about it on these forums. But AICN wouldn't be what it is without people cursing each other out every 3rd post so by all means, sling away.
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:27 p.m. CST
But that's only because every HDTV set-up I've ever seen makes standard definition broadcast television look like pixellated shit. If it's not backwards compatible, I don't want it. I refuse to replace the thousands of standard definition DVDs I already own with the marginal improvements to sound and picture I've seen in next-generation home video. It just ain't a-going to happen. Not to mention the fact that every time I've walked through the large-screen HDTVs at the local electronics stores, invariably the images look like they were compiled by rapidly color marking a sheet of graph paper. The digital artifacting on all of these so-called advanced sets make watching them completely impossible. Like me, the masses simply aren't going to come clamoring for this totally unnecessary "upgrade" until one format definitively wins out. I don't care which one wins. I don't care how it wins. I don't care when it wins. I just won't be interested until I hear the announcement that one format has completely gone the way of the do-do. In the meantime, can the fanboy bitching. I don't care whose dick . . . er, sales figures are the more massive. It doesn't matter one whit. I'm still not buying either.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:24 p.m. CST
I'm trying to figure out if you're joking around... the anime-to-liveactionmovie genre has a worst record than videogames-to-movie. Also, at least the others had some type of coherent (crappy) story instead of a schizophrenic fine arts student's idea of a (crappy, overbearing) plot. ////// If you want your political/ philosophical /allegorical fix go watch Jin-Roh, it's vastly superior storytelling, with a more vibrant and sharp vision.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:57 p.m. CST
by Osmosis Jones
I reviewed the DVD recently. Kick-ass action movie. http://18.104.22.168/reviews/A-G/city_violence.php
Oct. 17, 2007, 10:06 p.m. CST
You must be referring to the "last minute" talks that were held between Sony and Toshiba right before Toshiba unleashed HD DVD onto the market. From my understanding, that broke down because Toshiba would not budge on dropping the demand that the proposed unified standard would retain the same DVD structure that allows the same DVD replication machines to also press the next-gen discs. Sony didn't want that because they wanted a truly next-gen standard plus they didn't want to continue paying Toshiba for the patents on that very DVD replication process. BFD. And since Sony walked out on this, us Blu-ray owners have our movies on a next-gen disc structure that has a scratch resistant layer on each disc, unlike HD DVD. But yeah, Sony and many of the other Japanese consumer electronics companies wanted nothing to do with Microsoft whereas Toshiba was more than willing to whore themselves out to them. Had the content companies not insisted that the Blu-ray Disc Association also support Microsoft's VC-1 codec, it wouldn't even be supported by Blu-ray. I wish Sony would have stuck to their guns with that because then Warner Home Video would have to encode in AVC for their Blu-ray releases, which of course they do not do. So I fail to see how you lay blame on Sony walking away from last minute negotiations that was only meant to distract Sony and the rest of the BDA into abandoning their platform as well as drop Sun and BD-J in exchange for adopting Microsoft's HDi. If you haven't noticed, Microsoft has been trying to kill Java on computers and mobile phones for the past half decade (Silverlight being their latest attempt).
Oct. 18, 2007, 3:40 a.m. CST
Because I almost had a combination of a seizure, heart attack and stroke when watching it in Imax, plus a boner when Ironhide and Ratchet do their badass stuff protecting Sam.
Oct. 18, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST
I still don't know what the fuck I watched.
Oct. 18, 2007, 6:02 a.m. CST
Yeah if you find excrutiatingly bad dialogue,little robots that can walk across a runway through a crowd of people right in front of peoples eyes and get into a car without being noticed, cliched characters, Robot urination, the trampling of your favourite childhood stories eg changing creation matrix to "all spark" and totally changing most of the main characters appearances(like changing doc octopus's name to mr eight legs in spiderman 2)also discounting the Ark ship that they came in which was what converted them to transform into earth vehicles for a stupid "they can transform into what ever they look at idea" fun
Oct. 18, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST
Beware! This movie is god awful! It's trailered in front of Severance and looks good but actually it is a poor, poor retred of The Last Supper with snotty art snobs instead of Cameron Diaz and Don Cheadle. HORRIBLE!!!!
Oct. 18, 2007, 9:28 p.m. CST
I have both (through 360 and PS3) and the movies I have seen so far have all been excellent quality wise. Now Blu-Ray may be the more technically advanced format, but that can still get all fucked up by a bad transfer. Soundwise, I suppose that depends on your system and how much of an audiophile you are - I've read opinions from people who say they don't notice a difference, and yet others who can tell when the bitrate drops on any given part of an audio track. I wanted both because there are movies exclusive to both that I wanted, that simple. People who dismiss either format outright are idiots, both are extremely solid and do the job well. I personally think that ALL studios should support both formats, with the likes of Sony, Disney, Universal and Paramount offering bare bones versions of their discs to the competing format, while lavishing their preferred format with extras. That way there is still some competition between the formats, and maybe more people would be inclined to get in the market and start allowing them to make more money. The only thing standing in the way of HD discs taking off is indecision over the formats - eliminate this, and it's better for all.
Oct. 18, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
Hi all, Looks like Paramount took the money and is working from the inside to help kill off HD-DVD. First the Transformers release, which got good marks for awesome video quality and good audio didn't contain any true hi-def audio formats and they blamed disc space. OOOF!!! Now the Jack Ryan collection which was pulled at the last minute from BLU-RAY's clutches arrives on HD-DVD but without any special features. Apparently now they are recalling them because, while they didn't put the special features on the discs. Someone forgot to tell the printers. BAMF!!!!! They sent out this note to retailers. "Please be advised that there are typographical errors on the packaging for the Jack Ryan Special Collector's Edition HD-DVD. The packaging inadvertently notes special features that are not on the HD-DVD. As a result, this product is being recalled and street date is being delayed.We ask that you do not sell or rent this product to consumers and that you stop shipments to additional destinations. A Paramount Home Entertainment Representative will contact you with an RA number to facilitate sending the product back to Paramount Home Entertainment's manufacturing facility. Returned product should include any unit previously shipped to retailers or other destinations as well as your on-hand inventory. We will provide further information on the availability of new product shortly. Should you have any further questions, please contact a Paramount Home Entertainment Representative. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you." Pretty damned embarrassing. Tell me what is it that these companys do again. Plumbing? Electrical Work? This is like getting horrible sound at a theater on the first night of a major motion picture. Unreal.
Oct. 18, 2007, 10:41 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
I wouldn't look for it here. Keep the politics on forums that they are made for. I watch movies and browse this site to escape serious news. Not have it thrown in my face like a bowl of acid in a phantom of the opera movie. Damn, that hurts!!! Seriously though man, leave the politics to the Aholes in Washington. Doesn't mean I don't support our Troops. I used to be one of them, but all of them are volunteers not slaves. I pray for the safe return and for those lost but lets leave it at that. KTHANX
Oct. 18, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST
but then again, I guess that's what Hollywood has de-evolved into. Thanks Michael Bay.
Oct. 19, 2007, 11:29 a.m. CST
It only exists in your mind, much like your chances of ever moving out and getting laid.
Oct. 19, 2007, 11:36 a.m. CST
Ok, Grammar-Nazis. I'll make a deal with you guys. I'll learn to spell if you learn not to be such douche-bags. Deal? Great. Oh, one other thing. Don’t take me not liking a movie so personally. It doesn’t reflect on you. In fact, like the movie, it has nothing to do with you. So, maybe you’re the ones who should get a life.
Oct. 19, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST
I enjoy HD-DVD's. My blu-rays do not share the same video quality. Sound is better on the blu-rays. I am more of videofile than a audiofile when it comes to hidef, so there might be my bias. Plus, I get yelled at by my wife for the sound being too loud anyway. Sony is no less guilty than microsoft for pulling bullshit with prices, upgrades and customer loyalty. Betamax is not Sony's only "superior quality" failure. Memory Stick walkman? MiniDisc? All miserable failures. Because your video game machine happens to play blu-rays, it will be the only thing you flock to since there are no fuckin' games on the PS3. If it was not for all of the PS3 owners trying to justify their purchase of the system, Blu-Ray disk sales would be very different. Plus, regarding the sales figures, PS3 does not count as a stand alone player and Sony and its fanboys have included the free with purchase of a Blu-Ray player Blu-Rays disks as part of the number of units sold. The war is far from over. Oh...and Transformers sucks. It is a good quality DVD, but the movie sucks and should not be a reason for HD-DVD owners to celebrate. Batman Begins, however...is a very good fuck you to Blu-Ray owners who have been promised the movie for over a year. Good Luck with that one.
Oct. 19, 2007, 5:48 p.m. CST
For the billionth time, pack in Blu-ray movies are not counted in the sales figures. The copies of *Casino Royale* that were given out with the PS3 in Europe as well as the Ricky Bobby flick here in the States were not counted, nor are the 5 free Blu-ray titles that are a mail-in offer. As for the PS3 not having great games already, *Resistance* and *WarHawk* say differently, and next year with *MGS4*, *Kill Zone 2*, *Little Big Planet*, *Unreal* and *Home* being released, the PlayStation brand will not be receiving all this online negativity from the various fanbois who hate the console because it is fashionable. As for *Batman Begins* being a constant FU to Blu-ray owners, that will be soon negated since Warner is starting to release many of the currently (and artificially) "exclusive" HD DVD titles to Blu-ray now that the 1.1 Profile will be mandatory on October 31st. Obviously, you have ignored the news that the first Warner "catch-up" title is *Terminator 3* which will have all of the HD DVD PiP features now on the Blu-ray release along with Schwarzenegger's new intro. Thus *Batman Begins* will be released to Blu-ray long before *The Dark Knight* hits theatre screens. As for MiniDisc, it was successful in Japan. Had the RIAA not put so much pressure on Congress to place an import ban on consumer level DAT machines when they first debuted, Sony would have had a winning format which would have negated the need to even develop MiniDisc in the first place. That wasn't a market victory against Sony, it was the stupid U.S. Congress that caused that entire debacle.
Oct. 19, 2007, 7:07 p.m. CST
I won't debate the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray argument again (frankly it's point less). But I do have a PS3. And I have yet to see a game that's a killer app on it. Resistance was ok, but the graphics weren't great (the textures looked like technology from two years ago). As for the rest. I've seen a lot of hype but nothing really delivered. Heavenly sword was ok, but it tended to 'hitch' a lot, and was extremely short. I think a lot of programmers are finding it difficult to program for because of the whacked out ram architecture. I think that's going to be an issue for a long time.
Oct. 20, 2007, 3:22 a.m. CST
What, Blu-Ray Video isn't as good as HD-DVD? How is that possible? Aren't they both 1080p? Anyone who says that is Kray-zee. It must be your player or connections. How many players have you tried? You probably bought a $1200 HD-DVD player and then tried Blu-Ray using your friends PS3 that he brought over one saturday morning when you were stoned.
Oct. 20, 2007, 3:47 a.m. CST
Transformers did suck. You're not all bad. :)
Oct. 20, 2007, 2:46 p.m. CST
The video difference is minor, slight edge to HD DVD. My Blu-Ray player actually cost $1,000.00, it was the XBox 360 add-on that I compared it with (both HDMI connected). So cost has nothing to do with it. I watched several different PS3 playbacks on HDTV's in the Sony store and was not blown away. Sound still goes to Sony. Once again, a slight edge. These slight edges seem larger to those that have a better sound system or a better television. Most of these hi def dvd's are not outputting true 1080p and a vast majority of the television can't handle the signal, anyway. My Plasma is a 1080p 50 inch (the large size takes away from the picture, actually, I thought it was a good idea when I bought it, but it makes video games less sharp when it is so big). My preference was simple: Batman Begins and the Matrix Trilogy (both are slated to come out on Blu-Ray, yet no dice). I got the Blu-Ray player as a gift later. A lot of whiners, like lynxpro, who I debated this issue with on another board, was pissy about transformers and started citing the death of HD-DVD. He is fuckin' crying about missing out on a movie that sucks. If he bitched about missing the Star Trek films on Blu-Ray, maybe he is worth a bit of a listen, but all the "facts" he cites (different argument everytime he fuckin' posts) never talk about what he is missing, but why he needs to defend his purchase. Good talk Bender Bending Rodriguez.
Oct. 20, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST
First, just because I happen to address your stupidity in a different talkback does not qualify one as a troll. What happened to all of the Wikipedia bullshit you cited in the paramount talkback. I love how it disappeared once I pointed out that Sony caught shit for changing the facts in their Wiki and the Blu-Ray wiki. Make all of the excuses you want as to why certain films have not make it to Blu-Ray, you lie every time your fingers touch the keys. DVDforum had an entire article three months ago as to how they were using the not only the pack ins, but the five free mail-in Blu-Ray disks as part of their sales figures. The restriciton put on the Minidisc was fuckin's Sony's doing by the way. I owned a ton of their cd players and music players, and the Sonic Stage bullshit they use is the RIAA's dream come true. Go play Metal Gear Solid 4, when it comes out in November of 2009, and shut the fuck up. I don't care if someone does not agree with me as to what their opinion on the greater quality of either format is. But you need to fuckin' drop this defense of what you bought shit and get the dick out of your ass.
Oct. 20, 2007, 8:08 p.m. CST
I will agree with you that the Cell processor is apparently hard to program. But then again, the same thing was said about the PS2 and the Emotion Engine when it came out. I can recall that the first gen games on the PS2 didn't look as good as the very same titles on the Sega DreamCast which was allegedly easier to program for due to it running WindowsCE and having NEC's PowerVR chipset in it. Then when the Xbox came out, logic should have dictated that the Xbox would have beaten the PS2 since it was easier to port titles straight from the Windows PC world to it, but the PS2 still won. So in just a few months, I'm sure the PS3 gaming situation will turn itself around. I mean, look at *Resistance*. You are underwhelmed with it, but I'd say the graphics are better than *Halo3*. I was torqued that it was only in 720p, but *Halo3* is not even running in HD on the Xbox360 since it only outputs at 620p. The Xbox360 should be surpassing that easily after having been on the market for nearly 2 years. I'll say one thing at the very least for the PS3...it is a much better Blu-ray player than either the PS2 or the Xbox were as DVD players. Nearly 1 year after the PS3's release, it is still one of the best Blu-ray players on the market.
Oct. 21, 2007, 12:39 a.m. CST
I finally watched Transformers last night. Shit script. Awful acting. Overwrought action scenes. Spastic camera. Retarded fucking movie. What a waste of time that was. Yep, a typical Micahel Bay film. They totally got him right in that recent South Park episode.
Oct. 21, 2007, 1:09 a.m. CST
The part about PS3 being a low-end BluRay player. I can tell you for certifiable fact that Disney uses them as their reference players in their offices. Why? Because a)they're inexpensive, and B) they tend to have the fewest glitches because of Sony's frequent software updates. Videophiles even swear by them for BluRay playback.
Oct. 21, 2007, 1:12 a.m. CST
The only thing about the PS2 comparison is that it had no competition for at least a year. It could weather a programming learning curve. The PS3 has no such luxury. Some of the best Xbox game are coming out right now, and the Wii is still selling like hotcakes. Where as the PS3? http://kotaku.com/gaming/console-wars/sony-pleading-to-keep-third-parties-on-ps3-313148.php As far as Resistance being better than Halo 3 graphic wise? You've got to be kidding me, and Halo 3 does run at 1080p. I have it running at 1080p here. I don't know what the heck you're talking about. As far as I can tell the only thing the PS3 has going for it is Blu-Ray, and that's not a sure thing.
Oct. 21, 2007, 2:19 a.m. CST
You may have a 1080p HDTV, but according to the pixel counting online that was supposedly even confirmed by Bungie, the game [Halo3] only outputs at 620p. That is not a typo. Supposedly, they did that to keep the frame rates up or something. That's not to say it isn't a kickazz game though.
Oct. 21, 2007, 10:31 a.m. CST
Fuck those fat Weinsteins! Trying to steal a word that was never theirs to begin with. Fuck 'em, I say! And I'm not watching either Planet Terror or Death Proof until I get the original full double-bill theatrical version (with trailers) I was meant to see all along. I don't care how many years I have to wait. Fuck 'em!
Oct. 21, 2007, 12:59 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
1. ALL High Def DISCS BOTH HD-DVD AND BLU-RAY ARE MASTERED AT 1080P: Whether you can see that 1080P is determined by whether the player you have and television you have supports it. Not to mention that 1080P is only viewable over HDMI at the moment due to the studios paranoia on the subject of piracy. Also if you have a 1080i player on a 1080p TV it's creating a progressive image using the TV's hardware which on good HDTV's is usually enough. Not for the hardcore videophile of course but what is? 2. VIDEO DIFFERENCES AND AUDIO DIFFERENCES ARE STRICTLY A MATTER OF DISC MASTERING!: You can only do a true comparison between BLU-RAY and HD-DVD on two players that are FEATURE PARITY and on a disc that appears on both formats with the same encode and audio features. Here are the true facts. Other than the exception of the additional disc space on BLU-RAY and I'm going to scream this loudly for the ignorant 14 year olds. THESE FORMATS ARE BOTH BASICALLY EXACTLY THE SAME WHEN IT COMES TO VIDEO AND AUDIO CAPABILITY. Check this link for the facts (granted it's wikipedia but these facts are elsewhere as well) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Blu-ray_Disc_.2F_HD_DVD_comparison It clearly shows that both of these formats have the ability to be exactly the same. Meaning that the only reason we have 2 formats is the usual reason. SONY Wanted to be in charge of the next generation Video format. Gee I wonder why? As long as there is a format war you are going to end up getting alot of movies with the exact same encodes on both the HD-DVD and BLU-RAY versions if they are released by studios that support both. This has already started happening and can be seen by the reviews on hdreview.com BLU-RAY had alot of bad transfers early on and some of the studios are still taking the easy out (not surprising) and producing or placing MPEG2 transfers onto BLU-RAY discs when it's been proven that VC1/AVC are superior to MPEG2 at almost any bitrate. The extra disc space on BLU-RAY is wasted if all they do is use it to cop out and produce anything less than the best possible picture or stick on 14 hours of crappy extras that nobody gives a crap about. I love intelligent debate about this, but the fact is that on the merits of the capability to produce a good video image with great audio. These formats are the same so while you can say that a certain movie that doesn't exist on HD-DVD looks better on BLU-RAY well, thats not too hard since theres nothing to compare it against. And as I said when they exist on both they are usually using the same exact copy of the material for both releases.
Oct. 21, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
http://www.highdefdigest.com/ is where the reviews show the most detail about specs on audio and video. It's a true format agnostic review site, unlike what the Digital Bits has turned out to be. I used to love the Digital Bits but their constant bashing of HD-DVD because "They" chose BLU-RAY as the winner early on pisses me off. I want the news from those types of sites and I like leaving the opinions to us the readers. Sure, write an editorial or two but leave your opinions out of each and every post about HD-DVD or BLU-RAY.
Oct. 21, 2007, 1:07 p.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
Not wisthstanding SONY's TRUEHD Campaign the PS3 has very few games that are truly 1080p at the mastering stage. Meaning the assets like textures etc are not designed from the ground up at 1080p. I could be wrong but I know my TV set changes to 720p almost every time a game or demo starts. Granted I have few games and if I'm wrong I would love to hear which games are created for 1080p. But don't bother with MGS4 being one of them. I don't want to hear about a game that won't be out for at least 6 months.
Oct. 21, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST
Blu-ray and HD DVD are not essentially the same. Blu-ray has a much higher transfer rate and more storage capacity. Had Transformers been released on Blu-ray, Paramount could have cranked up the video portion of the bitrate in AVC even higher than what they did on the HD DVD version plus used uncompressed audio and all without running out of disc capacity like what happened with the HD DVD release. You yourself might not see or hear a difference between low and high bitrate transfers, but then again, there's some idiots out there that can't taste the difference between Coke and Pepsi or tell the difference between a song encoded in 128Kbps MP3 and 256Kbps MP3, let alone the difference between MP3 and AAC or OGG at the exact same bitrate. I am not one of those people so no, I will not be happy if we get saddled with an inferior standard like HD DVD when Blu-ray is available. Furthermore, we have a format war not because of Sony (who is backed by almost the entire consumer electronics industry except Toshiba) but because Toshiba was greedy and wanted to retain their patent portfolio profits they make from DVD. I'd also like the format that has scratch resistant coating on my discs standard...and that is Blu-ray. As for lazy studios still using MPEG-2 on Blu-ray, that's pretty much only Fox on certain titles, but they print their encoding details on the back of their title cases, or you can scan each title detail on the Blu-ray homepage. Warner and its myraid of companies use VC-1 on their Blu-ray titles, while Disney/Buena Vista and almost every Sony title is now done in AVC.
Oct. 23, 2007, 10:09 a.m. CST
by Tim Tringle
lynxpro, go back and read my posts. I clearly state that as far as capability to play video formats and audio formats these two standards are basically the same. They both play the same video and audio codecs. I acknowledged that BLU-RAY has more disc space and that COULD provide more room for higher bit rates etc. But as the blu-ray stats website shows (whether it's true or not I cannot prove) far more than just FOX use MPEG2. In fact over half of all BLU-RAY movies are in MPEG2 as opposed to VC1 or AVC. And quite a large number of them are on BD25 as opposed to BD50. Now it does appear that the studios are finally catching on and over 90% of the recent releases are on Bd50 with AVC or VC1 as the codec but that still leaves a huge amount of movies that are on MPEG2, which was not only FOX by the way but almost every studio. The situation is improving but thats only because of the format war. If they could get away with MPEG2 and BD25 for every title they would do it. And when your using MPEG2 vs something like VC1 or AVC then the bitrate has to be higher to get the same quality of Picture due to MPEG2 being a less efficient codec. MPEG2 can look pretty damn good, don't get me wrong. Good Transfers with a good encode can make the world of difference. And of course if you allocate a higher bit rate it will make the picture look better. But to be honest Once one of these formats wins out the studios will go right back to their old ways of doing the least to make the most. Most BLU-RAYS will start coming out on BD25 as opposed to BD50. Dolby Digital + will become the norm as opposed to High Res Dolby TRUE HD or DTS MA. As for scratch resistant coating. HD-DVD doesn't need it because their data is in the same spot as SDVD. The middle as opposed to near the top surface of the disc. I treat my movies pretty badly sometimes and I have never had a movie not play due to scratches. We'll see how BLU-RAY holds up even with that coating, but that will take time. We have a format war because both of these idiot corporations are Greedy. But I'll take Greedy with mandatory managed copy over Greedy with Extra copy protection any day. But it's moot, I have both formats but I'm holding back on BLU-RAY until I know for certain the outcome. I purchase only those movies that I have to see in Hi-DEF, which is growing every day. As for telling the difference between bit rates, be realistic. Yes it's easy to see and hear differences like 128K MP3 vs 256K or 320K, but it gets a little harder to tell the difference between things like 1080i vs 1080p, or the difference between a peak bitrate of 4MB vs 8MB on the same material (usually something like that doesn't exist for you to compare against). I am one of those people who can tell the differences between one resolution or another just by looking at it, and it's one of the reasons I own an HDTV and make sure all of my equipment is properly setup/calibrated etc. But I am getting older so it may be harder for me to see those subtle differences. I also don't have the best HDTV on the block and have yet to see a difference between 1080i/1080p (I don't trust Best Buy to prove it). Later
Oct. 23, 2007, 6:24 p.m. CST
the way new tvs buffer information, DLP, LCD, SXRD, Plasma, there is no difference between 1080i and 1080p, as long as the information is in the source material.
Oct. 28, 2007, 4:52 p.m. CST
I was not saying there was any vast supeiority to either format. I just stated my personal experience comparing both. One of the reasons why I chose HD-DVD had nothing to do with resolution, disk space or sound quality. It had the movies that I wanted to watch on it. One error, which does not make much of a difference, but my HDTV Plasma is 1080i (which, I believe, was a waste of nearly an additional $1,000.00 at the time, when I could have gone with a 1080p). Don't know why you got all hot over it. If it sounded like, in my first post, that there was a huge difference, I did follow it up with a clarification. It is not a huge one at all. I also agree that the transfer can make the difference, too. What also makes for a difficult comparison is exclusivity. Bond sucked, but I cannot compare it to an HD-DVD transfer, can I?