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One Of Our Spies Has Seen Seinfeld’s BEE MOVIE! Is He Buzzing From The Experience?
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
I don’t know what to expect from this one. I know I don’t like the visual style that they’re showing off with the most recent trailers, and there are enough godawful bee puns in the ads I’ve seen so far to last me a lifetime. But Seinfeld’s a smart comic, and I have to hope that there’s more to this film than the trailers suggest.
Check out this spy’s reaction, though. He’s the first person I’ve heard back from who has actually seen it:
Did you ever get the sense that Dreamworks animation isn't living up to its talent?
I do. I saw BEE MOVIE at a screening yesterday. And I was profoundly disappointed, just as I thought I would be.
I've always thought the title "BEE MOVIE" was incredibly bland and wholly lacking in creativity. It's almost as if they bought this pitch and said "we'll give it a real name someday ", and just never got around to it. And that's how the rest fo the movie plays out. At times, it doesn't seem to know what it is, or where it's going. The story changes focus around four times, and not in the "somehow this all works itself out in the end" way.
The desgin is awful, overtly bubbly and round-edged, right down to the little "Jelly cars" the bees drive around in. Yeah. I said cars. Why fly when you can wait in traffic? Also, the bees in the movie suffer from what I call "Pseudo-ANTZ syndrme, with all-too human faces and plasticine limbs. Up to this point, Dreamworks seemd to be pushing the boundaries of what computer animation can do. But the humans in this film look far more fake and "action-figure-ish" than they did in OVER THE HEDGE.
BEE MOVIE is also missing chunks of what seem like necessary "reaction". Only one person in the film seems alrmed that bees can talk. The rest just kinda go along with it. The movie never gives you what you want. Just when you're hoping someone would squash this annoying little "pat-myself-on-the-backer" chatterbox, no one does it! And by the time Jerry "I'm not as funny as people think" Sienfeld gets throuh his third or fourth line of dialogue, you really want him to stop. The jokes are lame, lame, lame, and you NEVER feel a thing for his character.
You're supposed to feel sympathy, or affection, or side with a film's main character. but I wanted him dead! I wanted to see a dog take a crap on him. ANYTHING, but listen to him prattle on for an hour and a half. And that's part of this movie's problem. too much talking, not enough action. ( and I usually like lots of good dialogue in a movie)
And for God's sake, when will Hollywood stop hiring Patrick Warburton to do the same, beef consuming alpha-male Joe Swanson-esque lout character that seems to be in every film and television show out there? He plays this big beefy teenis player guy who screams a lot and like yogurt enough to have a hissyfit! He spouts a billion lines about "I"M ALLERGIC TO BEES! THEY MAKE ME SWELL UP!" And after all that, they never let that happen! I wanted to see this guy all swollen up and in a hospital, gasping for breath! But again, i didn't get what I wanted to see, which tye were clearly telegraphing.
If I could beseech Dreamworks, I'd BEG them to make an animated movie that really takes advantage of animation as a medium. Do something about Vampires, Werewolves, a murder mystery, drugs, war, an alien story, or just...ANYTHING that hasn't been done ( badly )in animation before, and to do it without having to worry about the kiddie audience. Manga and anime have proven there is a GIGANTIC adult audience who loves animation, and don't want to have to sit through another kid-friendly animal/insect film that barely pushes the limits, is afraid to do anything profound or dramatic, and is forwever stuck in the "animation is for retards" syndrome. BEE MOVIE will make adults roll their eyes.
Which is a pity, because if there was EVER a studio that has the talent and power to make films like that, it's Dreamworks.
I do. I saw BEE MOVIE at a screening yesterday. And I was profoundly disappointed, just as I thought I would be.
I've always thought the title "BEE MOVIE" was incredibly bland and wholly lacking in creativity. It's almost as if they bought this pitch and said "we'll give it a real name someday ", and just never got around to it. And that's how the rest fo the movie plays out. At times, it doesn't seem to know what it is, or where it's going. The story changes focus around four times, and not in the "somehow this all works itself out in the end" way.
The desgin is awful, overtly bubbly and round-edged, right down to the little "Jelly cars" the bees drive around in. Yeah. I said cars. Why fly when you can wait in traffic? Also, the bees in the movie suffer from what I call "Pseudo-ANTZ syndrme, with all-too human faces and plasticine limbs. Up to this point, Dreamworks seemd to be pushing the boundaries of what computer animation can do. But the humans in this film look far more fake and "action-figure-ish" than they did in OVER THE HEDGE.
BEE MOVIE is also missing chunks of what seem like necessary "reaction". Only one person in the film seems alrmed that bees can talk. The rest just kinda go along with it. The movie never gives you what you want. Just when you're hoping someone would squash this annoying little "pat-myself-on-the-backer" chatterbox, no one does it! And by the time Jerry "I'm not as funny as people think" Sienfeld gets throuh his third or fourth line of dialogue, you really want him to stop. The jokes are lame, lame, lame, and you NEVER feel a thing for his character.
You're supposed to feel sympathy, or affection, or side with a film's main character. but I wanted him dead! I wanted to see a dog take a crap on him. ANYTHING, but listen to him prattle on for an hour and a half. And that's part of this movie's problem. too much talking, not enough action. ( and I usually like lots of good dialogue in a movie)
And for God's sake, when will Hollywood stop hiring Patrick Warburton to do the same, beef consuming alpha-male Joe Swanson-esque lout character that seems to be in every film and television show out there? He plays this big beefy teenis player guy who screams a lot and like yogurt enough to have a hissyfit! He spouts a billion lines about "I"M ALLERGIC TO BEES! THEY MAKE ME SWELL UP!" And after all that, they never let that happen! I wanted to see this guy all swollen up and in a hospital, gasping for breath! But again, i didn't get what I wanted to see, which tye were clearly telegraphing.
If I could beseech Dreamworks, I'd BEG them to make an animated movie that really takes advantage of animation as a medium. Do something about Vampires, Werewolves, a murder mystery, drugs, war, an alien story, or just...ANYTHING that hasn't been done ( badly )in animation before, and to do it without having to worry about the kiddie audience. Manga and anime have proven there is a GIGANTIC adult audience who loves animation, and don't want to have to sit through another kid-friendly animal/insect film that barely pushes the limits, is afraid to do anything profound or dramatic, and is forwever stuck in the "animation is for retards" syndrome. BEE MOVIE will make adults roll their eyes.
Which is a pity, because if there was EVER a studio that has the talent and power to make films like that, it's Dreamworks.
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think about it
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Sorry, had to do it. I BEE funny that way.
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nothing original has ever come out of any of their animated movies.Shrek was about as good as it got which was mediocre at best.But now look there 3 films in and the series is completely dead.
Every film is almost a poor mans Pixar too.
Ants=bugs life,shark tale=Finding Nemo,Shrek=Monsters inc,Bee Movie=Ratatioulle.
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Bee Movie- "B" Movie...granted not that clever but still made me chuckle when I first heard it.
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Nasonex commercial: THE MOVIE!
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Oct 12, 2007 5:39:10 PM CDT
"Up to this point, Dreamworks seemd to be pushing the boundaries
by jimmy_009
Uh, yeah. Appearently someone hasn't been paying attention.
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It clearly addressed all the things one would worry about in a movie like this, and in animation movies in general.
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Oct 12, 2007 6:02:39 PM CDT
As soon as it transpired that this film WASN'T going to feature
by kolley kibber
in a fluffy bee costume, floundering about on wires, my interest waned.
Dreamworks animation is ugly and underdeveloped. A bit like Jeffrey Katzenberg's face. -
Was this thing written by a 12 year old? He spends more time talking about what he wants in the movie than what was actually in it. "I want vampires and werewolves! I want the guy's face to swell up!" Not to mention loads of spelling and grammar errors. Then when I thought it couldn't get any worse, he holds up manga and anime as the standard for good adult animation. Wow. Trailers for this one are hilarious and I have no doubt it'll be a fun flick.
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Coming in 2011 - BEE MOVIE II: THE SEQUEL
Critics will hate it, idiots will love it! That's like 98% of all Americans! -
Oct 12, 2007 7:00:03 PM CDT
There were already two really detailed reviews for the bee movie
by doodieknight
Do a search. Those reviews actually went into details. Regardless, what does it matter what age this reviewer is. He didn't like the film. Personally, I don't like the trailers either, and I agree that the style of the film is just a bit ugly. And I agree. An animated vamire movie would be sweet.
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Have you been in any bookstore lately? There's HUGE manga sections. And the last time I checked, people didn't travel in droves to American animation conventions all over the country. But they do for anime. ( though I don't know why, I'm not much of an anime fan either )
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by what I've seen, but to actually come out and appear to define Joe Swanson as Patrick Warburton's defining character instead of Puddy just shows be our sensibilities are mile apart. Also, to Doctor Zoidberg, I love Larry David as much as the next guy, but from the Seinfeld DVD stuff it seems that Jerry had almost as much to do in the writing, they were a real team.
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That character is funny as hell, but I agree that the same voice is used over and over again. Doesnt he do Kronk from Empreror's new groove? That sounds just the same.
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PIXAR RULES!!!!!
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Oct 12, 2007 7:40:37 PM CDT
Never say an unkind word about Warburton!
by just another useless chump with a microp
The man is awesome. Just listen to him! His voice could kick your ass. He wouldn't even need fists. Patrick Warburton's voice alone could make Chuck Norris cry in the corner like a little bitch. GET SOME!!!! GET SOME!!!
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Oct 12, 2007 7:41:52 PM CDT
Why must all animated films in north america be for kids?
by smooznozzle
The rest of the world gets it, why is north america so far behind. I'd love to see a film that deals with less banal topics than what we're usually fed. Bring on the monsters, zombies and aliens.
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And some animated nudity :}
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It'll be talking animals from here on in.
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yeah, I know it's "mo-cap" and not TRUE animation, but if it does some decent business, maybe others will follow...
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Oct 12, 2007 8:21:28 PM CDT
Those unfunny and annoying spots on NBC killed my interest
by shiftyeyeddog2
Holy shit, were those lame! I had little interest anyway, but after those stupid Seinfeld commercials/spots, I actively hated the movie and will go out of my way NOT to see it.
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i dont even know if you can get fritz the cat on dvd
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best show ever
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Oct 12, 2007 8:53:35 PM CDT
Dreamworks is awesome! And I still think this will be good.
by proman1984
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Seriously, this film is a big maybe with me, but that tennis ball gag makes me chuckle.
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I love the man too much to care all that much.
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Sorry. Thought i'd bring back that annoying "eat" trend :P
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every preview, article or clip regarding BEE MOVIE has confirmed my opinion of Seinfeld. he's moderately entertaining and HEAVILY dependent on the talents of others. it was Larry David that gave SEINFELD its humor and attitude. it was the supporting cast of the show that made it a classic. before SEINFELD began, i saw Jerry on a solo HBO special written and starring him--and it was awful. very embarrassing. i couldn't understand afterwards why he'd have his own sitcom. BEE MOVIE harks back to the HBO special--and i'm staying far away.
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Thank CHRIST I only have to watch that annoying logo at the beginning of every movie for the next month.
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I was wearing an onion, which was the style at the time...
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. . . for this movie. Are we that desperate? If I got mad when the Bee shorts interrupted a damn funny 30 Rock, I sure won't fork out cash to see it in a theatre..
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bee movie looks TERRIBLE.
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ahem.
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Can't I watch some frickin animation without having to hear that guy!
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it'd be a BEE-CHCRAFT :}
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This movie will certainly be awful. I can't tell you how annoyed I was when Alec Baldwin mentioned the name of this "movie" on the season premiere of 30 ROCK. Seinfeld then proceeded to break the fourth wall and directly address the camera, telling everyone to see this thrown-together, forget-it-ever-existed-after-its-opening-weekend piece of shit. It took me right out of the show, which was great up until that point. I'm sure he thought, "It's so shameless, but I'm so famous. They'll forgive me." Larry David was more likely than not the backbone of SEINFELD. The whole "I just quit my job, but I need money! I have no choice but to go back on Monday and pretend it never happened" thing actually happened to Larry David when he was writing for SNL. He WAS George Costanza, and he would never stoop to making a piece of garbage like this.
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... you should probably see SOUR GRAPES before you say that, Dickless. Even Larry David is capable of squeezing out a hot piece of shit onto the chest of the ticketbuying public.
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...the next (kids) animated movie I'm looking forward to, is Horton Hears a Who. Why is there little to no coverage for that on this site? I was barely aware of it until I saw the preview before The Simpsons Movie. I'm glad someone finally had the sense to ANIMATE Dr. Seuss.Or maybe I'm the only one excited because I read the book to my son 4 nights a week.
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So annoying.
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Oct 13, 2007 9:01:22 AM CDT
Moriarty, I don't need to see this movie, the trailer sucked
by grammaton cleric binks
I admit I'm biased because I'm in the minority of people who just never cared for Seinfield. It just never did anything for me. But I wouldn't even take my kids to this movie it looked so boring.
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WHAT THE FUCK. I WILL NEVER SEE THIS MOVIE.
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...among other bizarre ideas. The real reason Dreamworks animations are lame is because Katzenberg micromanages everything, has final word on every detail and has even said in an interview that "animated features should not have a single director." He believes that there should be multiple directors one each feature answering only to him so that "egos don't get in the way". His ego perhaps? I guess that means, by his standards, that Pixar is doing it wrong by having "one" director Like Brad Bird. What a tyrant!
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I had gotten to the point where he was expressing his disappointment about not seeing the tennis instructor swollen from bee stings(oh, what a knee-slapping opportunity missed there) when I was reminded of Harry's review of The Matrix II(whatever it was effing called) where he deplored the lack of werewolves, mummies and vampires in the Matrix. No, really, it was that retarded. And then, what do I read? "If I could beseech Dreamworks, I'd BEG them to make an animated movie that really takes advantage of animation as a medium. Do something about Vampires, Werewolves...." Holy shit! Harry and this special needs case should get together and make the BEST MOVIE EVER.
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... he doesn't seem to see that "Bee Movie" is a play on "B-Movie". Its a joke. Maybe other ones flew over his head as well.
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*snicker*
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I think Bee Movie looks awful, but this reviewer is a fucking tard.
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Monsters vs. Aliens.
Look it up. It's going to be in 3-D too. -
I'll just watch SNL reruns. RIP Belushi. Even though you brough it on yourself, you touched all our lives.
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I think fans really over estimate the popularity of anime with the average movie goer. Yea anime is popular with the college crowd and has a devoted following but it doesn't play in Peoria. The problem is that with rare exception, animated films are the only place to find good family entertainment at the movies. If they start making good live action family fare, animation might be allowed to grow but until then it will be stuck in the sand box.
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Oct 13, 2007 5:23:01 PM CDT
It should have been 'The Seinfeld Movie' with the whole cast
by performingmonkey
The greatest sitcom of all-time (although I did love Fresh Prince and Frasier). Doubt there'll ever be a reunion now.
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I hate the French. And I hate rats.
And I loved that frigging movie. Still, The Incredibles is the definition of cinematic perfection.
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I WAS unfortunate to see it on DVD a few years ago. I forgot about it. You're right that it was an awful movie and that Larry David isn't blemish-free when it comes to unleashing shit upon the populace (he also exec produced ENVY, which looked just as bad), but check out the box office for SOUR GRAPES on IMBD. The thing apparently didn't even make a million dollars. How many people do you think saw that movie? How many people do you think will see BEE MOVIE and be disappointed by it? Also, the whole bee-pun thing was pretty lame several decades ago when it was on the first season of SNL. There was a reason that concept didn't last long on that show. It sucked.
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That movie looks like gold. You bastard, the preview even shows the same type of typical Seinfeld humor, hardly dumbed down for the kid audience. Looks clever, and if you say you hate Seinfeld, you're only lying to yourself.
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Will Monsters vs Aliens be "safe" for kids to watch, or will it go for a strictly adult audience?
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this movie sounds horrible. i too love seinfeld. but, not just for jerry seinfeld. and, he has always struck me as a too much of a good thing type of performer- better when in an ensemble, but not so much on his own. and, the whole idea is dumb. a bee who realizes we steal honey? dude, what bees don't see that on a daily basis? and, a bee that has an affair with a human? gross. i will definitely be avoiding this one like the plague. oh, and larry david is way funnier than seinfeld. curb your enthusiasm is amazing. and, i liked sour grapes. at least it was a comedy with some balls. bee movie looks bland and desperate...
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Will probably go for the kid audience.
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than the actual result. Perhaps it should have been Jerry Seinfeld pitching a "Bee Movie" to the studio as a goof just because he's bored, and they accept it, because, you know, he's Jerry Seinfeld. Then Jerry has to scamble to come up with something to fulfill the contract. I may be influenced cause I just caught the second season of Extras on DVD. God, THAT show is funny.
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Will the mojority of young people who this film is targeted to "get" that title? It's not so obvious as you guys think.
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Seriously, I saw him in Ny and he was NOT funny, he rehashes all his old stuff and his new stuff is horrible, Im not surprised that this movie isnt funny, Larry David is the man who saved Seinfeld. -
I have seen Seinfeld live and in person. Years ago in the 80's. He wasn't bad but I would say his material is more pleasant than funny.
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What the fuck is Jerry Seinfeld on? That must be some baaaad acid.
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