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No viewer seemed to much care for Michael driving his rental into the water last week. Would it have saved the episode, I wonder, had Michael merely mistakenly driven out onto a dock that unexpectedly collapsed? On onto a slippery bank that sucked the car into the water? NBC describes tonight’s installment:
Oct. 11 "LAUNCH PARTY" THE WORLDWIDE WEB -- The Dunder Mifflin Infinity website is launching and Michael (Golden Globe winner Steve Carell) is excited about going to the big launch party in New York while Angela (Angela Kinsey) plans a satellite party for the Scranton branch. Meanwhile, Dwight (Rainn Wilson) competes against the website to see who can sell the most paper in one day. John Krasinski, Jenna Fischer, B.J. Novak, Melora Hardin, Ed Helms, Leslie David Baker, Brian Baumgartner, Kate Flannery, Mindy Kaling, Paul Lieberstein, Oscar Nunez, Phyllis Smith, Creed Bratton, and Craig Robinson also star.
I look forward with even greater anticipation to next week’s “Money,” which will see Pam and Jim visiting Dwight’s new bed-and-breakfast. Some photography:

In other “Office” news, Joss Whedon, who directed the Ryan’s business school/Pam’s art exhibit/Dwight’s vampire bat episode last season, will return to helm this season’s 10th half hour. “Jim kills Pam, which I thought was weird," Whedon tells TV Guide’s Michael Ausiello. "I probably shouldn't have revealed that. It's gruesome, but not without a bit of wry humor. It's territory I'm familiar with and I'm excited about it." Also, unless someone is perpetrating an enormous scam, the cast and writers of “The Office,” which shoots in Van Nuys, Calif., are going to be in the real Scranton, Pa., in about two weeks to attend a convention dedicated to the not-quite-three-year-old series. Tickets run $25 to $250. Read more of this here.

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  • Oct. 11, 2007, 2:40 a.m. CST

    testing 1 2 3

    by xega


  • Oct. 11, 2007, 2:58 a.m. CST

    It's nice to see them get out of the office

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    I think it really says something good about a series when you can take them out of the titular location and follow them on a completely unrelated adventure. It shows that you've really made people care about and understand the characters. I remember when ER first did this, when Clooney and Edwards were on a road trip, and now The Office takes Pam, Jim, and Dwight, and shows them in a non-work environment.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 3:19 a.m. CST

    joss whedon

    by fightinIrishBoy

    cursed for al eternity?

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 3:34 a.m. CST

    The Return of the Slayer-Broom?!?!

    by buffywrestling

    Probably not but I'm still hoping. Just the funniest sight gag ever. <p> Shifty: A lot of people want them to stay in the office, have more work minded plots but really, I'm happy either way. I wonder if Dwight will feed them beets, then make them watch BSG?n

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST


    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    I love the work minded plots as well. I mean, that's the bread-and-butter of the show. Most of the show SHOULD take place there. But I think heading out maybe just once each season is a nice change of pace.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 5:28 a.m. CST


    by WerePlatypus

    Yup, I agree. I thought Beach Day was a pretty inspired episode last year, and I also remember the Booze Cruise. At this point in the series, the characters are so well drawn, the writers can do just about anything with them, in or out of the office. . . plus, for me, the "out-of-the-office" days shared with other employees, even if they're supposed to be fun (fun = mandatory?), often end up being the most surreal.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 6:07 a.m. CST

    I watched the first three episodes and didn't like it

    by Napoleon Park

    But the folks at the Jump the Shark yahoo group convinced me it was great so I tried it again... and didn't like it. Last Saturday MeeVee Guide listed Bionic Woman, which someone asked me to tape for them, but NBC pulled a switch and aired the Office instead, so I watched it. There were three of four incredibly brilliant jokes that explained to me why everyone thinks this show is so great... and several other things, not the least of which was the sight of a grinning Steve Carell with vomit running down his chin, that reminded me... I DON'T LIKE IT!

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Jumped the shark first episode this season

    by Jugdish

    Someone had to say it..

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:01 a.m. CST


    by box

    you just jumped the shark by telling others not to use "jump the shark" phrase in describing a jump the shark moment.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Michael WANTED to drive into the lake!

    by BrowncoatJedi

    I can't believe so-called fans still don't understand the pathology of Michael. He's weird. He panics all the time (even the previous week on the fun run). He's emotionally crippled. He will do anything for attention and sympathy. And he drove into the lake on purpose to prove his point about "Ryan's new technology" vs. the old ways. The Office has always been an absurd show. Driving into a lake is no more absurd than a hundred other things Michael has done and said.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:30 a.m. CST

    The Brits Always Have the Best Ideas

    by Aquatarkusman

    Give comedies a 1-3 season run, then change it up. Don't keep going and going and going and going until all of your original fans turn away. The ones that break this limit (Monty Python and Absolutely Fabulous) got a little old in their later seasons.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:36 a.m. CST


    by beastie

    I'm with you. I'm surprised no one else saw it. Michael does things without thinking them through. He saw the lake, decided that it was the only way to prove a point, and in his state of panic, drove in. Subsequently, I laughed my ass off at the point he was trying to make.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Mr. Spork

    by Forget_Byron

    Did you just say "played out?" That is the most cliched overused phrase ever! :)

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:53 a.m. CST

    TOO MOSE!!!

    by Err

    More Mose Schrute

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:14 a.m. CST

    eh, Jump the Shark jumped the shark...

    by biggles2_22

    ...about 3 years ago. Just sayin'.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Good call Browncoat

    by Jor-El23

    People probably went with their initial reaction that they couldn't believe he'd driven into the lake, that's too broad, not believable etc...maybe it's not believable but as was already pointed out, the show has always be absurd. Michael drove his rental car into the lake to prove a point and the best part was he didn't even really prove that point.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:29 a.m. CST

    by Omar B

    I got my Creed and Ryan scenes last week so I was happy with the episode.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:41 a.m. CST

    "jumped the shark"

    by Shakes

    Saying Jumped the Shark is kind of like people who think they're cool because they know that "Video Killed the Radio Star" was the first video Mtv ever played. (everybody knows it)

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Jumped the shark

    by Black And Gold

    Is now known as "Drove Into The Lake". As in "That episode is when the show drove into the lake. Poor show was never the same after that." Creed is teh funnay.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Even the worst episode of The Office is funnier than 95% of TV s

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    Was last week's a little mediocre? Sure it was, by Office standards, but I was still entertained, and it's FAR better than most of the other shows some people think are funny - I mean, how the hell do shows like Everybody Loves Raymond and Two and a Half Men go on for so long? ugh.<br><br>I'll give The Office a less-than-stellar episode every once in a while. They've had plenty of hysterical ones to build up some credit with me.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:15 a.m. CST

    that heading should read "95% of TV SHOWS"

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    stupid talkback doesn't stop allowing additional characters or give you an error warning, just cuts off the extra.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Also "played out": "meh", "teh", "pwned"

    by Lance Rocke

    anything I've forgotten?

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Creed and Kevin and Dwight

    by greyspecter

    3 reasons for me to keep watching.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:39 a.m. CST

    yes the car in the lake was lame....

    by Merlox

    it completely flatlined the episode for me. BUT...I still love the office and thought the rest was gold. Can't wait again for tonight with Dwights own John Henryish storyline I think we have a winner.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:59 a.m. CST

    This show doesn't work as an hour program

    by TVguy4566

    I think this show works better as a tigher half hour comedy. It seems they have lost focus in the first two episodes and trying to run episode themes over the entire hour just weakens the whole episode. There is a reason why comedies are only a half hour long. There is only so many jokes you can get out of a situation. <br><br> As for the phrase "jumped the shark" it jumped the shark about two years ago.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 10:28 a.m. CST

    The hour long format

    by Jor-El23

    Does seem less focused, especially in the first episode. I thought it was redeemed last week though. Can't wait for tonight.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 10:38 a.m. CST

    by Omar B

    I think if they had built the show fro the ground up as an hour instead of just coming into this season doing hour long episodes it would have been better. It's all about pacing and not blowing your wad too early or too late but holding it for the hour.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:03 a.m. CST

    by EriamJH

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    About those hour long episodes...

    by EriamJH

    Keep going for it, as long as we don't have too much of the Pam/Jim melodrama anymore. Still funnier than the majority of current shows. As Roger Ebert says about movie running times: no good one is long enough, and no bad one is short enough.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Obligatory post regarding Pam's breasts

    by Meglos

    They're just so nice.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST

    The Office could be a half hour show

    by Jor-El23

    An actual 30 minutes of show, not 22 minutes and then some commercials. If you watch the deleted scenes on the DVDs most episodes seem to have between 5 and 8 extra minutes of quality deleted scenes. But pushing it to 42 minutes or whatever is stretching it a bit much. Still love the show though.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I am pwned by teh breasts of Pam Beesley.

    by Meglos

    They are not meh at all.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:20 a.m. CST

    The Office CONVENTION

    by Ryang

    It's gonna be pretty cool. 5 hours away from college too.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I don't like posts that start with "umm", does that count?

    by tonagan

    Because you know what follows is going to be snide.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    car in lake

    by greyspecter

    Michael's a moron, and completely buys into things to the point of danger and lunacy. So it's not especially surprising to me that he would follow directions into a lake. <p> And I agree that the hour format has watered down the sharp edged, quick hitting aspect of the 30 min show.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST

    I loved Michael driving into the lake

    by mthrndr

    It was just so insane, especially with Dwight yelling at him that it couldn't possibly be the turn. I laughed and laughed.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Saying that the phrase "jump the shark" jumped the shark jumped

    by El Scorcho

    I'm just saying...

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST


    by El Scorcho

    Saying that the phrase "jump the shark" jumped the shark jumped the shark.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 12:46 p.m. CST


    by Hansorg

    The unfunniness/popularity of this show never ceases to amaze me.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 1:10 p.m. CST

    The problem with the driving into the lake thing was this.......


    They shot that scene completely wrong. I'm no James Cameron, but if they had quickened the pace of that shot and instead of having Michael drive towards it at 15 miles per hour for 2 whole minutes, they could have simply had him take a surprise hard right hand turn and splash! It wouldh ave been funny. I heard someone on here say he drove into the lake on purpose to prove a point? C'mon man 1st of all that's weak, and secondly, Michael's not smart enough to take his "points" to those extremes. My real problem with the show is Pam's new "confident" attitude and her fancy new hairstyle. Seriously, if she would just crank it back about 100 notches and start playing her character as nervous and insecure again with that pulled back librarian hairdo she used to sport, things would be better. I'm also starting to not like Jim but I don't think it's his hair, it might be his smart aleck attitude.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST

    I think he did drive into the lake "accidentally on purpose"

    by Dapper Swindler

    He's insane. He did want to prove a point, but on an unconscious level. Deep down, he really did want to drive into that lake. It's like a freudian slip.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Couple of things...

    by Hagakure

    Michael: His driving into the lake was on purpose to prove a point even though it was a boneheaded thing to do. Come on, we are talking about a guy who is border-line retarded who was going to jump off of the roof of the building onto a giant inflatable castle to prove a point. Pam: I like the 'new and improved' version. She is finally in a relationship with someone who makes her feel good about herself and it shows. Jim: Still think he is the rock that holds the show together simple because Jim represents the audience. He sees the stupidity in everything that is going on and does what he can to make a horrible situation bearable. In short: Jim represents the audience. (Ryan used to represent that as well from a newcomer standpoint, but now with the promotion, Jim is going to be the main focus when it comes to 'normalcy'.) Creed: could read the side of a cereal box and make me laugh. And I also agree with the comment that this show deserves a 45 minute uninterrupted run. What does it say about television in general when all of the deleted scenes on the DVD's are funnier than most prime-time sitcoms?

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 2:07 p.m. CST


    by tha plow

    do i torture myself by reading this crap? there has to be a better way to waste time at work.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST

    RE: Michael being dumb.

    by Err

    This is the same guy that to punish Ryan, moved him next to Kelly. Then, to punish Toby, moved him next to Ryan and Kelly. Toby even commented on the ingeniousness of it. On top of that, Michael is smart enough to be the top salesman at Dunder Mifflin. He was smart enough to get that big sale from Tim Meadows' character in like season 2 I think it was. Michael is devious enough to make Dwight were an "I'm a liar" sign and stand on a desk. Michael is smart enough to still provide the CFO and Jan with his numbers (during the meeting of the 5 branch managers). Michael isn't all that smart. But he isn't all that dumb either. He has moments of brilliance.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 3:24 p.m. CST

    AICN Talkbacks are like the two old guys in the balcony on the M

    by SifoDyasJr.

    except times thousands.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 3:25 p.m. CST

    that last post should end with "muppet show"

    by SifoDyasJr.

    I guess the new system still has some bugs

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Michael is also dumb enough

    by eric haislar

    to try to jump of a building onto a trampoline, To drive a fork lift and destroy a warehouse, bring a sex doll to work, buy a horrible condo he will never be able to pay off. buy a convertible in a place that is really not all that warm, oh and my personal fav burn his foot on a George Forman Grill. And you people have a problem with him driving his car into a lake. Come on!

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Still funny, but...

    by Freakemovie

    I'm a little disappointed they put Jim and Pam together. 'Cause now they're just going to have to break up again, at the end of the season, or maybe the next season. And then after a few more seasons they'll be back together for real by the series finale. Way too many shows have made that mistake and followed that formula, and yet shows just keep doing it. They were doing such a good job of keeping them apart, too.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST

    The death of the show will be when somebody has a kid or Michael

    by StudioPlant69

    Gets custody of a newphew or adopts a kid. That is the moment the show has officially run out of material. gfy

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Anyone else watch the deleted scenes at

    by mraig

    The Office generally has quite good deleted scenes, and I thought a lot of what they took out of "Dunder Mifflin Infinity" was better than what they left in. I'm still lukewarm on this season, but the point is definitely true that a mediocre episode of The Office is still probably the week's best sitcom. <P>On the great "Michael driving into the lake" question, I am sympathetic to the viewpoint that he did it on purpose (consciously or subconsciously) to prove some point about using technology instead of human interaction. I do think that they could have played the scene a little differently if that is the point they wanted to make (e.g. when Dwight was saying "no, Michael, don't!" he could have said something like, "No, this is what the computer said to do. We have to trust computers now.") <P>The way they did play it, it seemed more to me like the Michael personality tic they were emphasizing was his tendency, when something he's doing is going badly and he doesn't know what to do, to keep foolishly pushing on rather than stop and think. I thought driving the car into the lake was a bit of a stretch either way; I thought him demanding back the basket and thinking by getting it back he had somehow 'won' was a much better example of the skewed logic he lives his life by.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Can we get a Separate TB just for...

    by chromedome

    ...endless analysis of the deep, hidden meanings, motivations, and character development in the Driving Into The Lake scene...?<p>Cuz it couldn't be just a comedy bit that didn't play well. No. That is inconceivable. <p> I hear new religions are forming to worship the various mutant hybrid animal gods that Michael named in the equally unfunny bit from before....

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST


    by Jor-El23

    Michael is stupid enough to try to make a point and fail. that's exactly what he did driving into the lake.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Teh show jumped the shark and was pwnd

    by Larry of Arabia

    by Flight of the Chochords! Pwned I say! The Office is played out. Seriously meh. Binary solo! 1001001010100001 (man I'm hil-freekin-larious!)

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Jumped The Shark?

    by larry sellers homework

    Okay the lake thing was an odd choice, but the episode featured at least three risky moments- "I have been dating a lot of black guys" (paraphrased), "I know she's Indian, it's confusing" (again paraphrased), and the subtle Nazi reference. Nothing shark-leaping about that.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    PS- About Shark Jumping

    by larry sellers homework

    As I understand it, the door was officially closed on that phrase when Barry Zuckercorn jumped over the shark on A.D. I think it's called "Bookending"....

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 5:24 p.m. CST

    And the new "jump the shark" is . . .

    by gruntybear

    . . . "bigwheeling to Fox to bitch about Family Guy." "The Office" has yet to even "bigwheel" close.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    The "sign my cast" promo is GREAT

    by chromedome

    but I wouldn't sign that thing with a ten-foot sharpie....

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:26 p.m. CST

    What the hell?

    by MurderMostFowl

    My tivo didn't record last week's episode apparently. I am deeply saddened. Now that NBC pulled out of itunes, I guess I'll have to wait until reruns to watch it. meh...

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST


    by jaylerd

    we're only on episode 3 of season 4. 4.5 isn't for another two weeks if we're lucky ... what matters herc's opinion, indeed. that said, can't wait to watch tonight.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 7:59 p.m. CST

    "Your back is like a barrel of snakes!"

    by tonagan

    Not The Office.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Fantastic episode so far...

    by DanielKurland

    Hope it maintains this.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:22 p.m. CST

    "Oh, and your cat is still dead"

    by Larry of Arabia

    They are indeed bringing the funny tonight. I will even let the computer prank slide, because Dwight isn't *quite* sure he believes it. If he did, he'd announce it to the whole office and take a gun to the NY server location.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:24 p.m. CST


    by localhero12

    Computer prank = Hilarious :) Seinfeld Bee-shorts = sad :(

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:38 p.m. CST

    This episode is still doing well...

    by DanielKurland

    Between the bouncing logo, communal hatred for the pizza, and the "kidnapping" of this pizza guy, I'm quite impressed.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Random thoughts.

    by CatVutt

    The logo thing was hysterical. I'm developing an oddly unsettling crush on Angela. 'Tie goes to the Girlfriend' was great, and I love that the Jim/Pam dynamic really hasn't changed a whole hell of a lot, and that Pam is actually a stronger character for it. And I'm calling it now...The Bee Movie shorts are, sadly, going to seem 20X funnier than the movie.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:49 p.m. CST

    "I have to hang these"

    by localhero12

    That was the moment I started having a thing for Angela.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Still the funniest show on TV

    by memento108

    I don't care what anyone says....and in my mind it's eclipsed the brilliant British version, which I used to obsess over.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:53 p.m. CST

    lol you are the superior being

    by BurgerKing

    The computer gag was good. I dunno about the kidnapping, kind of awkward. Angela had a moment there though.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:54 p.m. CST


    by DanielKurland

    Andy, you're making this episode.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Oh, my...

    by CatVutt

    Abba-Esque Andy! Ha! Awesome.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 8:57 p.m. CST

    "And where can you get authentic New York style sushi?"

    by memento108

    "Tokyo?" LOL

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Wallace from Veronica Mars in a Hot Pocket commercial?

    by tonagan

    Poor kid.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Seinfeld is ruining his own movie with overhype

    by BrowncoatJedi

    I am sick of Bee Movie already. Give us a break.

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 9:47 p.m. CST


    by BackRiverCatfish

    Full episodes are available at There's annoying "limited" commercial interruptions and the player they use sucks but it's better than nothing. There's nothing I can do about my TiVo failing to record This Old House however. Damn you machines!!!!!!

  • Oct. 11, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Best episode of the young season

    by StealthBeagle

    The first couple of episodes were a little flat, mostly due to needing to fill the hour, but tonight's was absolutely hilarious. The self-aware computer bit was sheer genius.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 1:34 a.m. CST

    No Big Shots talkback?

    by borisF

    Just kidding :)

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 2 a.m. CST

    Pam is crazy cute...

    by Kirbymanly

    The driving the car into the lake bit was just stupid. I liked Michael more when he was just awkwardly annoying not completely dim. They're going into Homer Simpson territory now and that does not work with what they've already built. Bring back Arrested Development already!!! I really miss that show

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Why I love Pam...

    by Bill Clay

    "You are the superior being." <p> What a sweetheart to prop up Dwight when his world is crashing around him.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 6:02 a.m. CST

    Last night was a real return to form.

    by mraig

    They remembered that a big part of what makes the Office great is a dose of soul-sucking depressing hopelessness. Now that Jim can't do it, what with being happy and all, I never would have thought that they would actually humanize Dwight enough for us to feel truly sad for him. But if you think about a character like his -- still obsessed with the things like karate, the military, and sci-fi that he probably liked as a kid (no offense to anyone here), blindly devoted to a paper company, constantly putting on airs like he thinks he's the most amazing person ever to live -- he's really pretty sad. <P>The breaking up with Angela storyline is going to really let them go good places creatively, especially with Andy seriously in the mix. Ed Helms was amazing. Check out the look in his eyes as he's doing a cappella with the two phones (a genius gag, by the way) -- he's doing this fantastic "please love me" thing that totally makes it work, and shows why Angela might be affected by it.<P>The pizza guy kidnapping bit was a little bizarre, but I loved all the little true-to-life touches like them being obsessed with the bouncing DVD screensaver, or everyone having an opinion about what local pizza place is better than the other. And the scene at the end, with Michael and Dwight sitting on the hood of the car, really brought back a little of that dark, sad tone from Seasons 2-3 that makes this show special.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 6:02 a.m. CST

    PS: The computer gag was hilarious

    by mraig

    How do I know this isn't Jim?<P>What's a Jim?

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Pam should have driven the car into the lake

    by Itchy

    while wearing a white t-shirt. Because I would enjoy seeing her boobs. Because she is hot. Last night was pretty good, by the way. I have to say this show is better when only 30 minutes ... more focused, less ridiculous.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 9:41 a.m. CST

    "its like eating a hot circle of garbage"

    by pikagreg

    you have to see the episode to understand

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST

    This episode was a little m'eh

    by AnimeJune

    I thought playing a joke on Dwight at ALL was a little hurtful in this ep, and yeah, the kidnapping was very awkward. I liked the bouncing DVD icon game, though.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Anyone else feelin love for The Big Bang Theory?

    by ripper t. jones

    Cant help but laugh my shit off at that show.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 11:53 a.m. CST


    by Somerichs

    Best ep yet of this season. I've been a little underwhelmed up to this point, but this one was hilarious. And because most nights i'm dying for more than a half-hour of The Office, i'm surprised to find myself agreeing with Itchy that i prefer a half-hour to a full hour. Also, Ryan is selling the dickwad well, and Michael's comments on the webcam were classic, as were his and Dwight's Ryan impersonations at the very end.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Are they setting Michael up to be gay?

    by Somerichs

    At the end there, when Micahel and Ryan were impersonating Ryan, what was with Michael saying Ryan was hot? Are they setting him up to be gay or am I reading too much into that? If it happens, you heard it here first!! It's actually not too much of a stretch if you think about it and would explain a lot of his social awkwardness...

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST


    by Frijole

    Michael has been referring to Ryan as "hot", "office hottie" etc... since the first season- it's been a running joke. He isn't gay, but he DOES have a man-crush on Ryan.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Down on Kidnapping

    by jimbojones123


  • Oct. 12, 2007, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Getting kinda sick of Jim

    by Borgnine JR

    He needs to do some real guy stuff once in awhile. Cuz right now I'd rather have a beer with Dwight or Andy. Jim would probably just sit around and wrap his arms around himself gently trembling while reciting sonnets about the first time he ever really "saw' Pam. Once they change you they get bored with you guys, then they dump you for someone like the guy you used to be before they changed you. Pam's one of those. RUN BACK TO KAREN, BIG TUNA!!!

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Guess the theme this year is love triangles

    by drewlicious

    Kelly and Darryl. Andy and Angela. Could be interesting. Loved the song with the speaker phones. Pretty funny and it's nice to see some sincerety come from such putz.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Looks like they're setting Micheal up for a complete breakdown

    by Richard Cranium

    With the whole Jan situation, plus him melting down over the pizza and Ryan, it looks like his life is kind of going to go spiraling out of control here. The funniest part to me last night was Kevin suddenly turning deadly serious when it came down to the issue of pizza selection...

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Dwights Beard

    by eric haislar

    I hope he just let's it go crazy. Like don't shave for weeks because he is so upset.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    I dunno, erichaislar

    by Meglos

    I was hoping that Creed will still have printer ink hair in this episode. Sadly, it was not meant to be. BTW I've heard the term Dwangelandy applied to the new love triangle. Hope it sticks.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Oh Pam, Pam, Pam

    by haggardatbest

    I'll finally get my HD cable right before the next episode, and I fear that those images of Jenna Fischer will just be too much for me to handle.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, and it's nice...

    by haggardatbest see my man Darryl put the moves on the second hottest "Office"-mate. Nice.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Phyllis V. Angela

    by Quin the Eskimo

    After the spoon exchange, I gotta say I'm in love with a 4ft nothing blonde lady.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Best show yet this season

    by BrightEyes

    I love kelly

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Love the show but best line of the night goes to 30 Rock

    by drewlicious

    "I'm gonna make your heart explode!" The delivery alone made me laught my ass for five straight minutes.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 8:25 p.m. CST

    30 rock was gold, office was the best this season, IMO

    by BadMrWonka

    thursday is really great. I don't watch my name is earl because I don't want to support scientology, but other than that, it's gold. even ER is watchable. not great, but decent before the daily show comes on.

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Watching Earl is supporting Scientology?

    by chromedome

    please elaborate...

  • Oct. 12, 2007, 9:37 p.m. CST


    by haggardatbest

    That's because Will Arnett is amazing. I could listen to him read a fill-in-the-cliche-here all day.

  • Oct. 13, 2007, 3:01 p.m. CST

    thanks, xiphos

    by chromedome

    for the info about the other guy's post. I guess I was expecting something more sinister, given that watching Earl is supposedly "supporting scientology". <p> Does he drink Starbucks coffee, too--cuz then watching Earl puts money in his pocket that he then spends on Starbucks, so Watching Earl = Supporting Starbucks.<p>I mean, if the entire cast, crew, and production company were funded by scientology, and all profits went to the 'church' then I guess maybe I could see it.<p>Or if it was blatantly promoting scientology...<p>I guess I can't watch 24 anymore, since that is supporting DUI--Keiffer drives drunk you know....

  • Oct. 13, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    the creator of the show is a huge scientologist prick, even if he's a funny one. so is lee, so are about 3/4 of the guest stars (ribisi for one)...I HATE scientology, it's a cult that has let people die for want of medical treatment, and has killed people for trying to expose it for what it is. <p>the more people watch, the better the ratings, the more money that the creator and stars get, and the more money they put into scientology. I don't buy R Kelly albums either.

  • Oct. 13, 2007, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Well, I am with you on R Kelly for sure, BMW

    by chromedome

    that guy is a weasel

  • Oct. 13, 2007, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Not That Funny

    by RaRoMo

    The Office used to be a fantastic show. But this season, a lot of the episodes have been flat. The humor has also gotten much too broad. The best thing about the series was its quiet, awkward humor. Whatever happened to that? Jim and Pam getting together? So far, a big mistake. There used to be something really funny and poignant about The Office. But lately, it's just a bunch of fanboy and beet farm references. Did they get a new writer? Producer?

  • Oct. 13, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Going back to what's really important here...

    by haggardatbest

    ...Jenna Fischer. I trust you have all seen her in "Employee of the Month" (not the Dane Cook disaster, but the Matt Dillon one). If you haven't seen it yet, let me offer a "You're Welcome" in advance.

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 12:08 p.m. CST


    by BizarroJerry

    Is it me or have these last episodes been sort of the breakout episodes for Angela? There haven't been any episodes until now where so much of the focus is on her. Now that's she's losing her mind and temper, I'm really liking her. Plus, she's much hotter than you may notice at first glance. Roy noticed it back when they were playing "Who would you do?", and chose the uptight Christian chick.

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST

    The actress who plays Angela....

    by chromedome

    ...was on Letterman not long ago: very funny and friendly, with a nice smile.<p>Yes, she actually smiles. You might not even recognize her when she flashes that smile.

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    living and working in LA, I saw firsthand the influence of Scientology, and the negative effect this cult has, not just on "normal" people's general well being, but also on movies and do you think Crash bought the Oscar? I think most of the higher ups don't actually believe the utterly nonsensical rantings of scientology, but they use it to further their career. it's like a dumber version of the skull and bones. but the people they dupe and steal money from are generally not so savvy, and they actually believe this crap, and lose all their money and dignity, and sometimes, their lives. it's a cult.<p>and so, yes, if someone is an active and vocal member of the "church" of scientology (they just call it a church so they get tax breaks and don't have to open their financial records to the government) then I'm much less likely to see their stuff. no my name is earl. no paul haggis written or directed piles of shit, no tom cruise movies. no john travolta. the irony is, in general, giving up these people's "art" isn't much of a sacrifice. if someone needs scientology to either kickstart or reinvigorate their career, then it means they probably couldn't succeed on their own merits. so missing out on their stuff is actually a blessing. R Kelly is much the same story, his music is boring as hell, even besides him being a child rapist.<p>polanski's hard though. because there were weird circumstances sorrounding what he allegedly did. and also, man, the Pianist was just so amazing. but I see where you're coming from.

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Anyone who doesn't think Angela is sexy

    by haggardatbest

    Should take a look at the episode in which Dwight thwarts Roy's attack. The look on her face when others recount the story to her is super-hot.

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 5:29 p.m. CST

    i guess listening to Beck mean we're getting brainwashed

    by sbessiso

    since he's a Scientologist too and joining Jenny Craig supports the chirch as well, since you know, Kirstie Alley is too and lets not EVEN get into that John Travolta character

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Does Anyone Know?

    by TheBladehelm

    If all these hour long episodes (technically two episodes) are going to equal a longer overall season, or just more weeks with reruns?

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST


    by haggardatbest

    It will be a longer season, as I believe NBC ordered 30 episodes which, if I am not mistaken, includes the hour-longs. I don't think they count as two, if memory serves.

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST


    by haggardatbest

    To be fair, I don't want anything to do with anything Kirstie Alley is involved with. Not because she is a Scientologist. Because she is an annoying bitch.

  • Oct. 14, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST

    I like "Earl"

    by BizarroJerry

    And I'm gonna let the until-now-unknown-to-me scientology of the creator and/or actor stop me from watching a funny show I enjoy. The very fact that I didn't know about them being that puts me at ease. It's the obvious, well-known, outspoken scientologists like Cruise and Travolta that I like to stay away from, and that's just cuz they're creepy. I was always under the impression that Hollywood latched on to scientology so they could pretend to be religious while not having to go to church.

  • Oct. 15, 2007, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Those silly brits....

    by Blackguard

    I REALLY like the US version of The Office. They started off by copying the UK version but made it their own! I only hope they can do the same with "The IT Crowd." I LOVE the UK version but I don't know if it will be the same with a US cast (and Moss). Joel McHale doesn't seem like he would play a "dirty, nerdy, loser" type character. Guess we will see.....