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"Heroes" mastermind Tim Kring just told an audience at the New Yorker Fest that each episode of the spinoff “Heroes: Origins” will contain two stories! Also, “Heroes” staffer Jeph Loeb, formerly of “Smallville” and “Lost,” will apparently script one of the “Origins” episodes. (Four of the six “Origins” episodes will will be created by big-screen writer-directors; could this mean the 49-year-old Loeb also intends to make his directorial debut?) Alexander Zalben of writes:
Hey Herc, Love your work on the site... I just posted this news here for the blog I work for. But I thought your readers might be interested to know what Tim Kring had to say about Heroes: Origins on the Superheroes panel. Specifically, that the series will have TWO stories per episode, and will play out like the Twilight Zone, meaning each story is a "cautionary tale." A wee bit more info at the link above, and feel free to copy and paste if you want to use it. Thanks, and keep being awesome, Alex
"Heroes: Origins" premieres in April on NBC.

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  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:31 p.m. CST


    by MoseSchrute


  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:32 p.m. CST


    by Animus

    Second is the new First.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST

    HEROES got really boring.

    by The Biomind

    Reeeaaaalllly boring.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:39 p.m. CST

    @ The Biomind:

    by jopari

    You mom got really boring, but that didn't stop me from making sweat, sweet love to her last night.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:44 p.m. CST


    by Magnum Opus

    Maybe the different writers will make this interesting. It certainly can't be worse than the actual Heroes program has gotten. What a waste of a good premise.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Why "a cautionary tale"?

    by Ribbons

    Just to have some sort of story structure? Vignettes could work just fine, IMO, and there are plenty of tiny, self-contained stories that you could end on an upbeat note anyway.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST

    T-minus 16 days to Kristen Bell on Heroes...

    by Pennsy

    Counting the minutes... :)

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:50 p.m. CST

    First New Hero from Origins!...

    by A Martian Realm

    ...will be The Biomechanical Female Man, with super-human strength and heightened senses...

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Kristen Bell's power

    by snowpuff

    Kristen Bell's power will be that she makes men -<br> <br> Oh wait, she does that in real life. Never mind.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Loeb sucks.

    by OBSD

    Seriously, if anybody got annoyed with last year's "Sylar didn't really die" season finale, that's par for the course for ALL of Loeb's comics. So now that Bryan Fuller's gone and Loeb's in charge, strap yourself in, it's gonna be a crappy ride.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 8:10 p.m. CST


    by chromedome

    easier than counting....

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Cautionary tale? I'll reserve judgement till they air

    by Yeti

    But I remain skeptical (between all the different directors and writers "orgins" could have a real uneven look and feel)

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Totally offtopic, but...

    by Pennsy

    Monsters HD channel is showing Godzilla 1985 right now; it qualifies as one of those guilty pleasures you often hear about. <p> That would be one hell of a Plan B power for Kristen's character Elle, wouldn't it? Gargantua, anyone, from SuperFriends?

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Giganta, that meant to read...

    by Pennsy


  • Oct. 6, 2007, 9:11 p.m. CST


    by The Llama

    Not exactly par. This IS the guy who crafted Long Halloween and Dark Victory. His more recent work is pretty questionable, but he DOES know how to tell a damn good story.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 9:22 p.m. CST


    by OBSD

    Loeb's endings and his reliance on cliche need serious work. "Everybody is the killer...maybe" is a piss-poor way to end a mystery that had such promise like Long Halloween. I admit that Loeb can set up a story pretty well but he couldn't create a satisfying ending to save his life.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 9:28 p.m. CST

    An hour isn't enough

    by skydemon

    This series has a big scope; so a single episode might not have the impact that five or six eppies back to back would have. That might be why some of you are feeling bored, or maybe this just isn't your thing. Anyway, Like any other great series, HEROES takes commitment to be properly enjoyed.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Cautionary Tale

    by rsswope

    = if ratings are good we will include the character in our "real" show. If not, it's like Star Trek novels.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 9:57 p.m. CST

    What is the obsession with Kristen Bell?

    by BetaRayBill07

    She's ok at best. Towards the "very" side of ok just the same, but still just ok.

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Memo to NBC: Start hyping Bell's debut at the end of

    by Pennsy

    this Monday's episode. Why not prime the hype pump now?

  • Oct. 6, 2007, 10:46 p.m. CST

    There is pant tightening excitment over Kristen Bell?

    by Negative Man

    <p>Seriously?</p><p>I regularly get her confused with Allison Mack. Both are okay looking girls, but it's only when they get slapped up with make-up and airbrushing do they look 'good'. And the only reason I can see why people find either of them really attractive is that they're famous. Kinda like how people find Kelly Osbourne attractive. I just don't see what's so exciting about Bell. Eh...just me, I guess.</p>

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 12:28 a.m. CST

    its because...

    by Spice-Orange

    she plays a nerdy cute girl on the television box. geeks think they have a chance with her because she reads nerdy dialog. word. shes cute. and there's hotter, but whom else is going to be in a show like heroes that is hotter than Bell? yeah, exactly. thats why people are excited. woot woot! i personally heart this show a lot, and im trying to get my non-TV watching friends into it because they'd love it. they are just stupid fucks that dont have time to watch 23+ hours of dvds... assholes.

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 3:47 a.m. CST

    give season 2 a chance!

    by Fixthe Fernback

    I was a bit fed up with Heroes and was not that excited by the prospect of season 2 after the dismal season 1 ending. Episode 1 of S2 was dull saved only by the last ten minute hooks, but really stepped up a gear for episode 2. So I'm back in please make this a stella season Mr Kring!!

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Nora Zehetner >>>> Kristen Bell

    by watashi-wa

    Hottest Heroes chick so far, and probably ever.

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 5:27 a.m. CST

    What about the Room changing chick in season1?

    by Superfunhappyslide

    The chick who had Micah (Who they really need to kill off) locked up. She was hot. Oh and its about time DL is confirmed dead, the dude really is a poor actor.

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 6 a.m. CST

    TV series over the years have spoiled us.

    by Amy Chasing

    Recently I managed to catch episode 404 of Stargate Atlantis (don't ask how). Now this is a show that not only has been going for 4 years, but has crew (and now actors) who were involved with SG1 for 10 years before, plus now they can't use the excuse of saying that the budget is stretched between SG1 and Atlantis. And yet they can still make a boring episode. <P> Comparing episode 404 to the recently screened 402 and it's like they're two different shows. 402 is climactic, ballsy, and emotional. 404 could have been interesting and psychological, but falls flat. Is it the writing? Is it the production? How can a show that's been going for years still get it wrong? <P> Now why am I writing about Stargate in a Heroes talkback - because people keep going on about how lame Heroes has become. Same happened throughout Battlestar Galactica. And Lost. And South Park. And justifiably so in some cases. I remember X-Files went downhill in later seasons. Even Babylon 5's fifth season paled in comparison to season three (still the best single season of any TV show ever IMHO). And Star Trek had whole shows that just kept going where everyone had gone before. <P> But is Heroes one of these? A show that quite clearly is a non-existent comic book series pseudo-adapted to be a TV series and has just barely begun it's second season. I thought the first season to be the most consistent first season of any show I've seen. I've enjoyed its one and a bit seasons infinitely more than 6+ seasons of Smallville. <P> Heroes has such great potential, and if the writing is as compelling as the recent episodes of House, then it doesn't deserve the label of Lame. But I guess that's up to the individual. I don't see its cancellation anywhere in sight just yet (let alone a shark to jump). Remember, even Stargate can keep going and going with hit and miss episodes (and seasons).

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Season 2 is just getting started.

    by The Outlander

    I'm happy with what I've seen so far. Once Hiro and Peter return and Kristen Bell arrives, I'm sure it will be as good or better than ever.

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 8:06 a.m. CST


    by ultragoregrind

    WORD! i was so disappointed when her character blew her brains out. such a waste :(

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 8:55 a.m. CST

    The problem with Heroes

    by johnnyangelheart

    is that to offset so many "Heroes" you need a really charismatic villian, and Zachary Quinto as Sylar just didn't cut it for me. I think Ali Larter would have been much more effective as the main baddie, and Quinto could have been good as her henchman. They would have had to realign their powers but actor-wise that would have worked a lot better for me anyway.

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Jeph Loeb is OVER-RATED

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    Try READING "Long Halloween." The plotting is all right, but the execution is terrible. I gave up after the FIFTH time I had to read an introduction to a character that he just introduced three pages before.

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Kristen Bell's Power

    by The Winged Doucheman

    Entering my dreams and sitting on my face...

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Herc, where did the real Heroes TB's go?

    by BadMrWonka

    I know there was a douche posting ruinous crap in them, and people couldn't access the TB, but I thought it was fixed. please give us something today or tomorrow, Herc. Heroes is on in less than 36 hours!! we have to ruminate!!

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Supposedly some Bell as Elle pics on LiveJournal

    by Pennsy

    Spoilerific, to be sure, but damned if I can find them. Help a brother out, please?

  • Oct. 7, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    To those who find Kristen Bell unattractive...

    by Executor

    seriously, who the fuck are YOU dating that you can say Kristen Bell only looks good with airbrushing? Meanwhile, those of you with a girlfriend besides your right hand, she looks like the little nerdy girl from Beauty and the Geek, but it's ok because she reads comic books and "gets you". If Kristen Bell ever wanted to grab a cup of coffee with you, you'd push every girl you every dated and your mother down a flight of stairs for the chance.