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Winslow Leach sends in a different opinion on De Palma's REDACTED!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a long time AICNer Winslow Leach who was moved to review Brian De Palma's REDACTED after reading a review I posted yesterday. Mr. Leach didn't like the flick very much and wanted to offer a counterpoint to Tal's glowing review.

Of course, I want to side with Tal because I love Brian De Palma and want to see him return to form, but Winslow's words sound just as honest as Tal's, so the only thing that I'm sure of is that REDACTED is a divisive movie. I hope I fall on the side of loving it.

Quint,

Long time fan, first time submitter.

I saw you published a review of Brian De Palma's newest flick Redacted by a cat named Tal. I couldn't resist providing a counter-point. I saw the film at the Toronto International Film Festival earlier this year, and though I should have written this review then, I decided not to. Why? I guess because I like De Palma, and I didn't have to heart to tear his new movie to pieces. I love Sisters, Phantom of the Paradise, and Dressed to Kill. I think Blow Out is a masterpiece. Mission: Impossible is one of the greatest spy movies of this century. Everybody can turn their nose up and scoff if they want (how can they not, Tom Cruise is in it!) but if you go back and watch Mission: Impossible again you'll see it's an incredibly well-crafted thriller. Seriously, do it. It's a mainstream blockbuster, yeah, but it's honest-to-goodness great. Carrie and Scarface are Important And Iconic American Films. Nobody can deny that. De Palma, I believe, is a genius.

And then along comes Redacted, a very "important" film. How can a film based on the real-life events of American soldiers raping and killing a 14 year-old girl not be important? De Palma is trying to show us something here. In the Q+A after the film an inquizitive audience member asked, "Why make this film? Why now?" De Palma's response was, "Because if we're going to stop this war, people need to see the images." He went on the elaborate that if the populace is going to rise up against the Iraq War the way they rose up against the Vietnam War they are going to have to see the horrific images. That's what this film intends to do, show us all the "images." Does it succeed? Yeah, it shows some brutal stuff, but most brutal is the stiff, painful editing and the laugh-out-loud terrible performances. If anybody has seen De Palma's other "War Is Bad" movie Casualties Of War (Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn, natch) then you've already seen this story.

Tal's review described the film as "well rehearsed, well acted and well scripted." He couldn't be more wrong. De Palma admitted that there was little-to-no scripting, and the actors were given free reign to do what they want. Believe me, it shows. You know when an actor begins to improvise and gets stuck, so they just keep repeating the same line again and again and again - because they can't think of any other place to go? That's about 30% of this movie. The character dynamic is just so forced. Why does nobody stand up against the proposed rape? Why do two of the soldiers, who are completely, morally AGAINST the crime, end up going on the trip to "do the deed"? Supposedly because they are going to "keep anything bad from happening," but when push comes to shove they don't act at all. They just gesture dramatically and cry to each other. It's all so forced, so over-the-top, so nonsensical that it just is beyond belief. The rape scene is pure schlock - just fifteen minutes of screaming - nothing compared to the profoundly disturbing (and intelligently conceived) rape scene in Irreversible from a few years back. To say that this film is "ahead of Thin Red Line" is just ignorant. Thin Red Line is a hugely important moritorium on war and the damage it does to our soul, as a people. Redacted WANTS to be that, but never, ever comes anywhere close to being anything more than a half-baked idea.

The main problem is that it never gives us a reason to suspend our disbelief. You'll never buy into it because you'll spend the whole time rolling your eyes at the cheese-ball performances or the laborious pacing or the terrible attempts at "real" camera angles. Why does the security camera footage have the same definition as the documentary footage? And the YouTube footage? Tal compared it to The Blair Witch Project, but the reason Blair Witch worked is because it actually LOOKED like a handheld camera. Redacted never actually looks like anything other than HD footage.

The film's got some good moments; there's a well-staged assassination sequence innvolving the soldiers sweeping enemy territory, a cool opening credit sequence, and an ironic "let's give this hero a round of applause" moment at the film's end. Also, the closing montage of gruesome images from Iraq is very shocking and effective, but it feels tagged on. The movie doesn't do the montage justice.

Believe me, I want De Palma to be "back" as much as the next guy, but he's not. At this rate it looks like he'll never be back.

You guys can scoff all you like, but when the movie comes out you'll see.

If you use this call me Winslow Leach.


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First!
by StarskyandHushky
Oct 4th, 2007
03:51:11 AM
Good to see a counterpoint
by Madines Sideshed
Oct 4th, 2007
03:55:41 AM
This is a good review.
by IndustryKiller!
Oct 4th, 2007
03:57:36 AM
Casualties Of War Remake
by barnaby jones
Oct 4th, 2007
05:12:46 AM
Thanks, Winslow
by Garbageman33
Oct 4th, 2007
06:15:29 AM
Is war bad?
by Spandau Belly
Oct 4th, 2007
07:08:29 AM
PLANT!
by solartaco3
Oct 4th, 2007
07:09:23 AM
But.....
by The Todd
Oct 4th, 2007
07:21:35 AM
Anyone who posts in this talkback is a TRAITOR!!!
by tonagan
Oct 4th, 2007
07:25:30 AM
hahahaha Spandau belly
by Lost Jarv
Oct 4th, 2007
07:57:38 AM
indy update, you guys take to long to publish news
by ironic_name
Oct 4th, 2007
08:19:33 AM
This is an epic movie-five!!!
by godzillasushi
Oct 4th, 2007
08:35:22 AM
That "well-crafted thriller" wasn't really DePalma..
by ErnieAnderson
Oct 4th, 2007
08:46:59 AM
Winslow Leach, the composer?
by tucson
Oct 4th, 2007
08:52:22 AM
Al Qaeda gives "Redacted" "4 Beheadings!!"
by uss cygnus
Oct 4th, 2007
09:10:29 AM
I was at the same screening in Toronto
by KantSpehl
Oct 4th, 2007
09:14:28 AM
Guantanamo Bay Prisoners LOVE "Redacted"!
by uss cygnus
Oct 4th, 2007
09:14:56 AM
irrreversable rape scene
by FleshMachine
Oct 4th, 2007
09:30:19 AM
Right on Point with the Counter-point
by BriandeHacka
Oct 4th, 2007
10:00:13 AM
So if DePalma's films succeds...
by Raymar
Oct 4th, 2007
10:03:10 AM
Wait, Mission: Impossible is...
by KanekoFan
Oct 4th, 2007
12:23:59 PM
Is the title just about the storytelling technique?
by KanekoFan
Oct 4th, 2007
12:33:43 PM
what "brave" director will give us JIHADI CAMP?
by Sir Loin
Oct 4th, 2007
12:58:03 PM
Ethnic Cleansing...
by Tourist
Oct 4th, 2007
03:08:04 PM
Loin
by Holy Hell
Oct 4th, 2007
03:17:49 PM
Depalma = HACK!!!
by johnyaztec
Oct 4th, 2007
06:30:45 PM
You're arguing that nobody cares when white kids die?
by KanekoFan
Oct 4th, 2007
07:18:50 PM
Holy Hell
by Sir Loin
Oct 4th, 2007
07:26:07 PM
Sir Loin
by KanekoFan
Oct 4th, 2007
07:33:52 PM
"4 Beheadings" ... LOL cygnus
by Frietag
Oct 4th, 2007
08:23:24 PM
KanekoFan
by Sir Loin
Oct 4th, 2007
10:46:08 PM
As longs as it's better than
by MetiphisLabs
Oct 5th, 2007
12:02:38 AM
Fair is fair
by Tal the Reviewer
Oct 5th, 2007
02:07:23 AM
i predict this movie will become a classic
by TheBaxter
Oct 5th, 2007
09:44:50 AM
Sorry Winslow, I can't trust a guy with chrome teeth.
by Stuntcock Mike
Oct 5th, 2007
04:13:35 PM
Because of course
by metaluna
Oct 31st, 2007
08:20:32 PM

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