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Crappy remake idea #4988... David Cronenberg's THE BROOD now to be Somebody Else's THE BROOD!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I love Cronenberg's early stuff... and his recent stuff, of course... But there's something really disturbing about his very early work, a tone that is so purely Cronenberg that the idea of remaking one of those films just seems silly to me. SCANNERS, VIDEODROME, RABID, SHIVERS... even up to DEAD ZONE and THE FLY, although those both have more in common with his later work than his early work.
THE BROOD is a personal favorite. Oliver Reed was the man and he kicked ass in that one. If you haven't seen it, it's about a dude who has a wife committed and begins suspecting her treatment might be a little shady... also, there is a pack of murderous mutant children to fuck things up.
So, of course, they have to remake it. They being Spyglass Entertainment who have hired Cory Goodman to write the remake script. He's writing PRIEST and the KUNG FU big screen adaptation. Who will be better than Oliver Reed and Samantha Eggar?
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Good old Ollie. We need some kind of law passed which states movie companies can no longer decimate movie history by cannibalising quality movies in pursuit of a fast buck. Idiots.
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I knew this was going to happen- I predicted it FUCKING YONKS AGO. As soon as they finished raping Carpenter's "A" Catalogue they'd move onto Cronenberg. What's next? early, pre hook Spielberg? How about early Cameron- that ashitty lo-rent sci-fi starring that lumbering republican called, erm, something like, erm, The Terminator must be ripe for a remake. It is OVER 20 years old- so clearly must need updating.Twats.
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there is no distinction between early and late in my eyes. (obviously there are some exceptions). Even his acting makes me smile
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..this Cronenberg gem is so good that a re-make,a re-imagining, a re-telling, a millenium-version,a Mark IV version or whatever the fuck version would be welcome..and because "..i'm hungry..hungry for love.."
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coming up with shitty remake ideas that are totally inappropriate but better than this one. Wankers.
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hand over fist, right? Great director, hopefully his past films won't be sullied in such a manner. But then again, there are the stupid fucks that remade 'Halloween' so we're all pretty much doomed to a future life of idiocracy. ASS!
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Name remakes that are as good as or better than the original- and for every one you do I will give you one that is desperate and pointless (other than wallet fucking- obviously). I bet you run out first.
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with remakes- only hire someone that has directed successful romantic comedies to remake Horror films, and in return the likes of Cronenberg and Carpenter get a carte blanche to do whatever they would like with the new directors most famous work (bastardising the script etc until it has only the title in common with its source). For example, how funny would it be to see a Cronenberg version of s Nora Ephron film? Sleepless in Seattle? You fucking will be.
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I mean, seriously. Nobody does a Cronenberg film other than Cronenberg. Hell, look what they did with "Fly 2". Kind of missed the point they did... This is like some wanker looking at, say, 'Psycho', and saying: : "Well, it's good and all, but let's update it for the kids." Oh, hold it... Aww crap.
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i'm outta ideas already. This is harder than it seems. Can I say 'Dawn of the Dead' (as good as, not better' or will I be burnt at the stake.
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And I give you: The Fog and The Hitcher,
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The Fly is a remake. So I will also add- Halloween.
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So maybe this remake will actually turn out ok.
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but i havn't watched it yet. I saw it ages ago though. Aren't they remaking scanners already too? And yeah, The Fly is a good remake. I'd also say carpenters The Thing is another that worked for me.
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Have some of that.
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Didn't really like it but the original was goddawful
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Well, I liked it.
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I'll get my coat...
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And normals are going to see his non body horror (boring) stuff Hollywood thinks they'll apreciate remakes of his early minging stuff which normals didn't want to watch in the first place!? There will be a huge flood of remade Cronenberg movies (expect the FLY again any time soon) and then no-one'll go see them and he'll slip back to indy status or retire or his body will burst open and consume himself.
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Freaky Friday you can also have (cos I feel generous) and Cape Fear, So therefore- Get Carter, Psycho and Alfie. Assault on Precinct 13 cancels itself out. Carpenter's is great- the Ethan Hawke one is awful
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You're a tool with all the critical faculties of pigeon shit.
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as in shmu65. Curse my sloppy typing.
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They get recycled...you make some money. I'm guessing CA has a bigger payout for deposits, no?
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I distinctly remember some idiot writer or director saying "Yeah, "The Fly" was good, but it always bothered me that the Fly never FLIES." BTW, remakes will be the death of Hollywood.
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Better yet, do a crossover - "The Brood versus It's Alive!". The title makes no sense, but neither do the so-called brains of the executives and scumbag "directors" who sign on to do remakes.
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I can't wait for the indignant responses to that one.
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but if you must go down this route- The Hollow Man is your duff one.
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Iran, North Korea I don't mind. Once it's been done, tell them that they will be nuked every time a new remake is made.
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Alright, this is one of my faves Cronenberg films and all-time fave movies anyway, like one of the others said, it's a VERY typical Cronenberg film and no-one is gonna out-Cronenberg the man himself.
I don't see this story or film being a hit at all, it's just too odd a story, unless it gets a total re-vamp story-wise. But it sounds like a huge bomb or DTV thing already too me. -
. . . the remake machine is running strong, and will not be stopped. I love early Cronenberg and The Brood is one of my favorites so obviously I don't want to see it redone. However, I will still offer my 2 cents on the casting. I can't look at Javier Bardem w/out seeing the young Oliver Reed from The Brood. If they want someone that actually looks like him and can do creepy like he did in that flick, Bardem is your man. Of course it will be Dane Cook or something. I wish I didn't let this kind of news get me down . . .
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Kill`em ALL!!! i am so freakin fucking tired of all this remake bullshit, im tired of the stupidy of the mainstream culture and the its got more "followers" than ever. the induvidual art is dead, long live mtv.....
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heh.
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and a comedy.
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you are a complete idiot.
and this remake is a terrible idea. -
KISS vs. The Phantom of the Park - Starring Fall Out Boy as KISS
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The Weinstein's have a remake of "Scanners" set to film next year with Darren Lynn Bousman at the helm (and David Goyer as writer) and Fox has been trying to get a new remake of "The Fly" off the ground for years. And "The Dead Zone", of course, was redone (or is it still going?) as a TV series. It was only a matter of time before they moved on to Cronenberg's other works. I bet "Rabid" and "Videodrome" will be the next two to go.
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...isn't HBO supposedly slowly developing a TV series based on "Dead Ringers" or they at least were at some point, with Cronenberg as producer? I'm pretty sure I read that late last year.
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Anybody know whatever happened with the planned pilot of Dead Ringers for HBO?
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the brood is a fun movie, a pretty disturbing one at that, but no ollie . . . can't imagine the horror.
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I hadn't seen this post when I was replying to the Friday the 13th remake, and thought of the late '70s/early '80s horror films that have been remake fodder lately. Thinking of the good-to-great genre flicks from back then, I thought well at least they haven't/better not remake any early Cronenberg..and lo and behold..
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Damn you Hollywood... Damn you Hollywood...
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Hollywood exec's! They would look awfully cute in TGI Fridays unifiorms. Then we could get some folks with real creativity at the studios. Marketing has ruined the arts.
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Both remakes are based on the original short stories, and take the original concept: Scientist gets body mixed with fly in a teleporter accident, arctic outpost is invaded by alien, pretty hoary '50s sci-fi concepts, and infuses them with themes relevent to the '80s. Aids, me-decade self help, isolationism, paranoia....they took the basic kernal of a plot and expanded them to something new, whereas nowadays a remake is taking a property and making the photography slicker and the make up and special effects newer. I'm looking at you Platinum Dunes..
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I'm getting tired of seeing good films remade for the sole reason of making more money. I can care less if Friday the 13th is remade, but The Brood is actually a great horror movie. It's creepy-as-hell, and there's not a chance that this remake will come close to its greatness.
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Invasion Of The Body Parsites, which was kind of close.
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Cause I saw it the other night and it made little to no sense...
Interesting flick but what the hell??? -
Nah, I was just referencing "They Came From Within". I have read about his earlier experimental shorts from the late '60s ( Stereo? ), but not seen any. Its probably like seeing Lucas' student cut of THX1138, and then his work afterward
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Oct 02, 2007 3:52:47 PM CDT
You know, this remake trend would be a good idea IF...
by thenorthlander
...we had a current generation of really awsome film makers doing remakes of a generation of not really good film makers original works. Instead of the other way around, I mean. You can't beat Carpenter, Cronenberg & Craven (yeah, sounds like a law firm) at their own game.
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You can find them on the 2-disc edition of Cronenberg's "Fast Company".
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HBO did consider developing Dead Ringers as a TV series through Morgan Creek Productions for 2006/2007, with Cronenberg as director and executive producer, but it never got past the script for the pilot, and is no longer in development, which is a real shame.
For information on the status of TV pilots, recent past and future, take a look at http://www.thefutoncritic.com/devwatch.aspx.
I love all Cronenberg, but I have to admit I especially like his earlier stuff, through Dead Ringers. Nobody can get creepy like DC.
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took in some of my double dip dvds for cash....and found a SEALED #21 CRITERION DEAD RINGERS for $30 canadian. giggled my motherfucking ass off lilian!
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Please don't compare David Cronenberg's output with Craven's. Craven is not an amazing or intelligent writer,storyteller or director. They can remake all of Craven's films, I couldn't care less about that.
In fact I thought Aja's Hills movie was about 50 X better than the Craven one. Aja really seems to understand how to do horror a whole lot better than Mr.Craven.
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Craven has done a lot of really good stuff. The first Nightmare on Elm Street is awsome. So is Last House on the Left. To say he's not intelligent is just underestimating those films. The type of storytelling he does is different from Cronenberg's because the stories are of a different nature. They're more plot driven while Cronenberg tends to write more character driven stuff. As for comparing him with Aja, well they're just people from different time periods in film. What Craven did then might not go over as well with an audience today, but what Aja does today might not have gone over well in the late 70's-early 80's.
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First of all thanks for the lecture of the Bergman/Craven connection, which I already knew and I think Last House On The Left is a terrible movie. You love it ? Like it ? Please tell me what you liked or loved about it.
The fact that Craven was a teacher really doesn't say all that much about his intelligence. My brother is a teacher as well, but he's no rocket-scientist either. But please explain why you think Last House On The Left is a great movie. -
...director if i must choose one (which i'd rather not). But in all honesty, I think the Brood is one of his weaker efforts. Something didn't quite gel together for me. Maybe it was his messy divorce at the time so he was trying to insert too many thematic elements but it kinda seems overcrowded. Then again, I havent seen it in years, so it's due for a rewatching. Still better than Rabid in my book, which was just a Corman pseudo-remake of Shivers/They Came From Within/The Parasite Murders. Then again, flawed as I may find it, no dumb fucker better remake a Cronenberg on my watch! Or I'll have no choice but to... come back and bitch online about it...
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Yeesh, Aja's Hills Have Eyes was horrible. It wasn't all that extreme, for all the hype that got put into it. And what I really really disliked about it was his total lack of understanding regarding tension in a horror movie. When the hippie guy (who gives a shit what his name was?) got locked in the meat freezer, and there's all that jangling music and sound? Wrong!!! Wrong wrong wrong, absolutely wrong! Totally deflated the tension. What's scary about a situation like that is that NOBODY CAN HEAR YOU. It's silent. He should've left the music and non-diagetic sound out of that scene and left us with just hippie guy smacking the glass. Way more tense. And when hippie guy gets all tough and heroic, Aja's got these fucking ridiculous Heroic American Badass strings rising on the soundtrack. WHAT? I'm not watching a Schwarzenneger film, you idiot! I mean, there was a LOT wrong with that movie, but those soundtrack issues just killed me.
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...had two good movies, the first Nightmare on Elm Street, and my personal favorite by him, Swamp Thing, which was the first great comic flick, IMO. Everything else he's done has been absolute ass or just unimpressive. Last House on the Left is an overrated POS. I can't believe Shocker is actually being remade.
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It's Cronenberg's magnificent requiem for the BetaMax. Seriously, though, no idea. Had it stayed on the literal course with maybe conventional mind-control overtones, I could have followed it. James Woods becoming some sort of VHS Super-Saiyan in the last 30 minutes... not so much.
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I'm with you man on both Craven movie choices, same order as well.
As for Necgray, I seriously think Aja's Hills is a really good horror-ride.
But the fact remains, that no big studios have the balls to greenlight TRULY scary and original filmscripts. I can dream up dozens of frightening unfilmed movie stories that would out-horror 99.9 of all fright films ever made. But for some reason, studios always seem to greenlight the ones I bet they think are the easiest to sell to the big masses and crowds. But it's not all doom and gloom, as good and intense horror films are still being made. Of course it's not the majority, but this has never been the case in the 100 year history of filmmaking. -
Sad to say as the legacy of this film has caused an awful lot of damage- but Scream (only the first one) was great and necessary- remember the state horror was in before it?
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my favorite cronenberg. watch it again.
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