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Dan gets an MRI after doubting his time trips, but then he vanishes from a flight with Katie and finds himself in charge of delivering a baby.
Recall that the Moon Bloodgood character supposedly died in a plane crash!
What TV Guide is not telling you:
Those who believe Gretchen Egolf un-superhot are blind or super-extra insane. The music of KC and the Sunshine Band ("Get Down Tonight"), the Psychedelic Furs ("Love My Way") and Smashing Pumpkins ("Today") is featured, as if this were the best episode of "Cold Case" ever. Also? (Invisotext on!) We learn that time-hopping inexplicably causes certain types of fruit to explode. We learn that Vasser’s “dead” ex appears to be almost as clueless as Vasser with regard to what’s going on with the time-hopping. Also, Vasser can now anticipate his time-hops well enough to put a car in park when he needs to.
Like I said last week, I'm on board at least until episode three!
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this show. Almost as much as Bionic Woman and Dirty Sexy Money. And...first.
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I think alot of people assumed that it was a rip-off of Quantum Leap... But I found the pilot to be very original.
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and its lame. theres no rhyme or reason on how he crosses time.
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The pilot was really good, this is the show that I am most looking forward to this evening.
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Of course there isn't any rhyme or reason on how he crosses time. Why would the writers show their cards this early in the series. Mystery is a big part of what makes this fun. I'm enjoying watching; and so far they have me on the hook.
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It takes something extra to get me to commit to another hour of TV - and this ain't it... But REAPER I have already put on Season Pass - bravo!
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It will go down as one of the best examples of small screen excellence when it is said and done. Or not.
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In the "Chuck" talkback I expounded on giving a struggling show a chance to develop and see if you like it for what it is, not based on your expectations. Well I never watched Quantum Leap and barely remember The Time Tunnel, so I had no expectations about this show. I gave it a chance and didn't think much of it. I may watch it again tonight. I'm lazy, bored, patient and pretty fed up with Horatio taking his glasses off on CSI Miami. But Journeyman has a lot of room to improve and it better start doing it fast. Or I'll have a gap in my schedule between Chuck, Heroes and the rerun of Saving Grace (last Summers best new show) on TNT at 11:00.
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i like it when you do that.
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You seriously watch CSI Miami? Say it isn't so! Last weeks episode of Journeyman was great, so I am definitely in for this one for at least a few more weeks.
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Needs to show up an punch this fucker in the face. Quantum Leap did this much better with a much smaller budget. Plus, Quantum Leap had the best Series Finale in television history. Even if you did not really get into the show, it is fuckin' great.
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What the fuck are critics talking about? The pilot was awesome. Hopefully this show will be around for a while. It's way more deserving than that huge piece of shit known as "Chuck."
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The first half-hour seemed kinda bland. The "will he save his dead fiancee" thing seemed a bit cliche, so I was pretty happy when they threw the curve in that one and she turned out to be shifting too. (Only, I guess she doesn't return to her "present" in the crashing plane.) Anyway, that got my attention, and the jigsaw puzzle way that he was altering the past was also more interesting than I was expecting.
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...but the premiere was a little weak, to my mind. I will give it another ep or two, though.Last week:He finds out the guy he yanked to safety in the street during a time-travel trip is a real person in the Present. He is still unsure that the trips are really happening, but does he go FIND that guy and see if HE remembers being saved? NO.When he comes home to prove to his wife that the trips are real, grabs a pickaxe and shovel and starts digging in the backyard, does she react like a normal person and get the hell away from him and call 911? No, she does the "sure, I will help advance the implausible plotline and follow you into the backyard, in the dark night, where you could be digging my GRAVE, because that is what TV wives do...I did like the twist on his fiancee, though.I am mainly just worried that this is a remake of Quantum Leap--with the only bonus being he doesn't occupy others's bodies, and will not have to do full episodes in drag.
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I got more of a Tru Calling vibe myself but thats just me
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radjac, I bet that was how they pitched it. good call on Tru Calling--also has that vibe, too.
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Loves" with a little Otherworld and Maude thrown in.
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...aw, heck, I'm too lazy to change the channel by then! Will watch tonight.
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OK how do people think this is NOT a bad imitation of quantam leap. This show is too unoriginal. I predict gone by spring.
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surprised she got that out with a straight face
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It was "The Ghost In You".
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I thought it would be a Quantum Leap rip-off too and while there are similarities I like it. The main character, Dan, is interesting and believable. Plus, I like the over-arching mystery. I'm hooked.
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Could have sworn I caught the new AT&T logo (which is a couple years old now) in the background of one of the '90s scenes?
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You forgot to mention the two best songs in the episode, Bad Reputation by Freedy Johnson and Fluorescent Adolescent by Arctic Monkeys
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Seriously, most of the other new shows I'm waiting to see if they get better. This one, I'm worried they won't be able to maitain the high standard they've set in the first two.{P}Chromedome: She's in love. They have a son together. She's not going to throw her marriage away too easily. People put up with a lot of wierd shit for the ones they love.{P}In fact, I'd say the behavior of all the characters so far has been about as believable and realistic as I've seen in quite some time. That's what I like best about this show. I buy all of the performances.
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So, how do I do the paragraph thing?
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And it isn't just talk, talk, talk.
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That was mildly embarassing.These new fangled internets things scare me.Now, you damn kids get off my lawn!
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Was just on my way to correctificate Herc's mistake when I saw your correctification.Still love The Furs!Also, Moon and Gretchen - rawr!
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Does anyone know who played the adult Tana Bloom in tonights episode? She looks extremely familiar but I haven't been able to find anything identifying her anywhere, not even the usually reliable IMDB or NBC's own credits for the show.
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And Life. Bionic was a big retarded bore. Chuck has started to suck. But Journeyman definitely "brought it" tonight IMVFHO.
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AWESOME!
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Ripley sells out to Weylan...I mean Direct TV.
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I watched CSI Miami for a couple of years - it's into what now, season six or something? It's very unrealistic, colorful, full of cliched characters, totally followed the formula of the orignal CSI and just plugged in substitute characters. And had things like Horatio driving into a building full of bombs, finding the prisoner, performing the rescue, and driving out in hisfreaking Hum-Vee as all the bombs were perfectly times to go off just after he passed them. the appeal was, and I DO NOT mean this in any way meant to disparage comic books, but "Miami" was the comic book version of CSI. Maybe even a really cheesy low budget summer Blockbuster Action Movie some episodes. Once they started taking it seriously and developing back-story about Horatio and his relationships and family, I totally bailed. Journeyman @1 confused me, with #2 I get itL the formula is that every week he goes back repeatedly to different points in a persons like to make things work out for them, like the spirit of time travel is appointing them to be their guardian angel. This is marginally interesting and may have a little room for improvement... but Ihave a hunch I'll be catching "the Closer" reruns in a week or two...
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According to the LA Times, Nielsen Ratings will join the rest of us in 2007 and count DVR Playback viewers! I know people who want to watch "Journeyman" but its on too late for some of them...go figure.
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just to post "(all caps) first (exclamation points)" when Herc posts the first, last and only "Cavemen" talk-back before it gets canceled? It hasn't been canceled yet, right?
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-As I never watched Quantum Leap. But I'm really digging this so far. The gimmicky time traveling business would be nothing without great characters to throw at it, and this show had so many tricky, complex character dynamics in its first hour alone that it guaranteed I will be watching for a while.
There's the brother, who's always been a bit of a tool, but even more so since he lost his best girl to his own, more charming, better looking brother. Their relationship is ineteresting, especially in Ep 2 when you see how he acts towards both Katie and Dan, saying subtly chldish things like, "Tell your wife..." and "Tell your husband..."
And speaking of unspoken wounds, there's Dan's marriage, and Katie's obvious feelings of inferiority to Livia. What happens when Livia's not out of the picture? When Dan can go back in time and visit her any time he wants? Sleep with her? If he goes back to 1995 and hits that, is it wrong? It wasn't wrong in 1995, and hey, if you can get off the hook by cheating in a different area code, then surely, in a different TIME... This whole dynamic ha s lot of potential, and it stirs up very complicated emotions. Who do you really root for to end up with whom? If this were a movie, or had a definite end point, they'd have made the time traveler single, and it would have been easier to root for him to somehow change time so that his lady doesn't die... But if Dan did that in this show, his son wouldn't exist, let alone have a piano recital to miss. And what decent parent would ever wish that their son had never been born? Te plot thickens even more after tonight, when we learn that Livia is not only alive (somewhere, on some plane of existence, she never died), but still in love wioth Dan, and completely unaware of who he married.
I sense that these emotional entanglements will only get more interesting, as perhaps Katie meets Journeywoman Livia, or Dan finally succumbs and hits that with 1995 Livia and gets her pregnant, or Dan has to "track" his brother, or Livia causes a fight between Dan and his wife, just as his prick brother waits in the wings to pounce. All of those dynamics in addition to the Highway to Heaven life-changing stuff leave the show a bit overstuffed, but better that than having to stretch out a thin premise over three or four seasons. The cast, the premise, the emotiional complexity: It all works.
Well, except for the following:
If you were about to commit suicide by throwing yourself in front of a bus, and someone grabbed you, pulled you to safety, and talked you down... Wouldn't you remember that guy's face forever? And if you ran into him on a city bus later, and he started talking to you, wouldn't you go, "Hey, it's you! The guy who saved my life that time! You didn't go to Berkely, asshole!!!" To be fair, they did fix this problem in Ep 2, where everybody he helped remembered him years later.
Okay, so Dan buried the ring ten years earlier to prove to his wife that he really was time-traveling, but wouldn't that sort of prove it to yourself, too? Like, you wouldn't ever doubt your sanity again? Why would he need an MRI, or test results back from the lab to know there was nothing wrong with him? He just hauled his wedding ring out of the Earth!!! That would be the end of all the self-doubt for me.
Okay, the Department of Homeland Security has your wife in a secured room, they have every inch of the airport monitored with state-of-the-art surveillance equipment, and they find out that you managed to DISAPPEAR FROM A 747 MID-FLIGHT with apparently no explanation, aqnd then you show up... And they just shake your hand and let you go, accepting your lame excuse that you somehow just walked off the plane before takeoff? I understand that this had to happen, because if it didn't, there'd be no episode, but... Come on, wouldn't he and his wife be stuck in a windowless room in Guantanamo Bay with rubber-gloved fingers up their asses for a few days? No-fly list, my ass. More like a tell-me-how-you-did-it-Mr.-Houdini-if-your-ever-want-to-see-the-mainland-again-in-your-lifetime list. I thought after the pilot, they'd keep his diosappearances low-profile, or explainable, with only his wife, and occasionally, his brother to believe him. Now I realize they will go with the more fun route: Keep the scale large, just throw logic and reason out the window from time to time. At least they replace the missing logic with compelling character development. For now.
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The premise is sci fi but the stories are pablum, thus this show will not survive.
....and why did they choose an actor who is almost a dead ringer for Anthony (DeadZone) Michael Hall?
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I watched Chuck, BW, DSM, and other new shows so far this fall, and Journeyman is by far the best IMO. I understand why people are comparing it to other time travel shows, but I think it's more similar in writing and plot development to Medium.
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And why was there a 747 flying from SFO to Portland OR. I'm assuming that it was OR since after they found out they were on the no fly list they decided to drive there.
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"where have you been? when have you been?" In most shows (a la Lost) he wouldn't even think to ask these, the most obvious questions. Really wasn't expecting much from this, but it really has piqued my interest - I'll be watching, at least for the next few episodes.
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Kevin McKidd is solid as always, but these cheesy "putting right what once went wrong" plots are getting horribly contrived. The only interesting thing going on is the subplot mystery involving his supposedly-dead fiance who keeps "time-tracking" with him. And you KNOW that shit will be dragged out in little pieces for as long as the show runs.
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The song at the end was "Young Folks" by Peter Bjorn and John. Still not sure how I feel about the show. It has the Dead Zone vibe and that show got old when each episode became I'll misinterpret a vision 2 or 3 times and then get it right for the last scene.
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And I was a Quantum Leap fan. Journeyman doesn't treat it's viewers like idiots... it throws a lot of character elements at you, which I am all for. As thatOpieGuy mentioned, it is a complex set of relationships that really make this show worth watching. What would anyone do if they came face to face with a lost love, but had a wife and child at home? That alone would be rough, even without having to figure out who you're there to save, etc. I like the fact that, like Sam and Al before him, Dan doesn't always know why he's there, or who he's helping. It wasn't until the end of the episode that he found out that the guy he thought he was helping died, and he ended up helping someone else. Good acting and great character development will HOPEFULLY spell success for this show.
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Any time travel show is going to have to be compared to Quantum Leap.. That's just a forgone conclusion.
But the differences are noteable. Dan didn't ask this to happen to him and has no understanding of why it's going on, whereas Sam Beckett was trying to time travel, come what may as far as the consequences.
With Quantum Leap, you were in and out and then on to the next adventure.. Here, there's resolution in the "present".. He gets to see the fruits of his labor.
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I agree with you about the show as well. I'm still on the fence.
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and I like Heroes...it's just sucking MAJORLY. So what if this has a similar premise to Quantum Leap? We're never allowed to have another time travelling show ever again? I like this, I especially like how he proved to his wife that he travels. I say give it a chance. Saying it's a ripoff of QL is like saying Star Wars is a ripoff of Star Trek because it's about space ships. DUH.
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is that Sam was a genius with like 52 Phd's and he was always busy looking like someone else and busting out different skills. This show is very different.
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he needs a role other than a cop. He is so typecast it ain't funny. I never watched Judging Amy, so I don't know what he was in his recurring role there, but c'mon. HLOTS, The Shield Pilot, Journeyman. Okay, Dennis Franz was able to make a career out of it, but I seriously want him to branch out. I guess any paying job is a good job, but still
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This show is a ripoff of Quantum Leap and has really cheesy dialog, but I kind of enjoy it.
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I could care less what is on anything beside NBC on Mondays. I do find myself looking for chores while Chuck. I stay planted during Heroes. I thought I would turn the tv off during but Journeyman beat out gaming this week. I really loved the opening airline scene.
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but it's not...the premise is very cool...and they are executing it well...I am officially in after last night's ep...heroes then journeyman..perfect pairing....
I loved when the cop that was chasing him was his brother....
the reason he was doing anything was a bit of a letdown..but this was a how does the wife deal with what's happenin....and his ex-fiance (can't remember her name) is hot as hell.....liked her in that other show with taty diggs..but love her in this...I love how it was like porno plane in the seventies...hehehe -
... VH1... uh, apparently...
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thanks alot, lost.
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Not really great but it doesn't suck either. Kevin Mckidd looks uncomfortable sometimes.
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...playing his brother? Hope not, because then sooner or later we'd have to have the big Crystal Bernard guest appearance...
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i'm really enjoying the show.
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NudeandAroused... That's one of McKidd's trademarks.. He ALWAYS looks uncomfortable.. Watch any scene in "Rome"...
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...especially since the lead actor from Voyages has been dead for nearly two decades. Maybe they can jump back tell him not to play Commie Roulette with blanks...and then they can all time travel to remove the live ammo from the set of "The Crow" so Brandon Lee can ensure that Van Damme does not even have a direct-to-video career to fall back upon after he becomes box office poison sometime around the time Golan & Globus sell their dark souls to Uwe Boll and no longer can make films.
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...*TIMEJUMP* Save baby from fire in 1973 *TIMEJUMP* Wife bitches at me for vanishing on our anniversary. Go to work *TIMEJUMP* Baby from 1973 is now 10 years old in 1983... Reagan is President according to conveniently placed Time magazine cover... Help kid deal with bully and save from getting hit by cable car *TIMEJUMP* Boss at work bitches because you missed a deadline *TIMEJUMP* Meet wife before you first met her... look all misty eyed *TIMEJUMP* Hurry and get a taxi, meeting wife for romantic dinner *TIMEJUMP* 1993... baby/kid is now into grunge rock (Nirvana and Alice In Chains keeps playing in the background, after all)and a heroin addict... help him go cold turkey and *TIMEJUMP* Missed dinner, wife wants a divorce, boss thinks you've got a drinking problem *TIMEJUMP* 2004... Baby/Kid/Former Heroin Addict now an adult working for the stock exchange, successful, but cold and heartless. Convince him that money isn't every... *TIMEJUMP* Wife subpoenas you *TIMEJUMP* Save Kid/Investment Banker from plane... *TIMEJUMP* *TIMEJUMP*... ah forget it!
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Strongest premiere episode since Heroes, IMHO.
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disagreeing with some haters does not make me a plant.
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Because The Master opened up the link to the Eye of Harmony inside The Doctor's TARDIS on New Years Eve 1999 in San Francisco. Now there's a permanent dimension rift in San Francisco which allows for freakier things to happen than you can even witness inside the Castro District or even Russell T. Davies' version of Cardiff. The other side effects were Doctor Who didn't return to our televisions until 2005 and Eric Roberts has been on "Heroes" and now in "The Dark Knight" while Paul McGann is still generally unknown in the States. I hope Kevin McKidd gets to fight (again) some werewolves in a future episode along side The-Spawn-of-the-Third-Doctor Sean Pertwee. And then Larry Fishburne can show up and kick the werewolves (and Keanue Reeves) out the doors of the TARDIS and into the sun while exclaiming "go to hell with faux Dr. Weir!" Yeah, that's what I wanna see. I'm going to suggest that in the next NBC survey I receive in my email inbox...especially since they haven't taken to heart my suggestion for a Michelle Ryan/Jemima Rooper love scene on "Bionic Woman". Yet.
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Although yeah, it wouldn't be right without a Scott Bakula cameo cuz essentially, we're talking same idea different audience.
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Lee Majors appeared on "Jake 2.0". Think about that one.
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I loved the premier, but in fairness, it was the second viewing of it which made me love it. The first half hour of the pilot was slow. So, to the people who didn't get it, as someone who found the show on a second try, I'd say give the pilot another watch, and give the show a fews more eps. If you don't like after that, feel free to complain about it.
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...because he jumps all over the place several times before solving a problem as himself instead of being stuck in a certain time period under the guise of another person. And although it has comical touches, it ain't a comedy.This show is way more a ripoff of Bill Bixby's Hulk than it is a ripoff of Quantum Leap. Given that others have been similarly tasked (e.g. his fiancee) I'll hedge a sizable bet that this could feasibly become similar to the Green Lantern Corps. as well.So far, I'm liking it way more than Heroes, but Heroes is a show that takes a while to ramp up anyhow. Unlike Bionic, I'm hooked instead of being stuck in the phase of giving it another chance.
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Why are we supposed to care about all these random people McKidd's character goes back in time to save? I supposed it might be revealed in time (as well as the probability that his whiny wife killed his uninteresting ex-girlfriend) but I won't be sticking around to find out. I love Kevin McKidd to distraction but not in this - not when he has an American accent, nor when he's playing such a dead boring character. Sigh. I guess I'll just have to continue getting my McKidd fixes watching "Rome" and "Topsy-Turvy."
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And it's definitely different enough from Quantum Leap to not bother me about any similarities.
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You know that episode in Voyager where they go back to 1990 and fix something? That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap! That episode of DS9 where they go back to 2020 and fix something? That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap! Zephram Cochrane in First Contact? That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap! That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap!That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap!That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap!That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap!That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap!That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap!That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap!That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap!That's a ripoff of Quantum Leap! From now on no show can ever has someone travel back in time to fix anything BECAUSE THAT'S A RIPOFF OF QUANTUM LEAP!
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the gecko from the Geico commercials.
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I'm getting the "Darko" Vibe from this..
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Traveling back in time to fix something doesn't make it a Quantum Leap ripoff, but traveling back in time to fix he knows not what at the behest of powers he doesn't understand sure sounds like a Quantum Leap ripoff to me. The only discernible difference to me is the present tense family angle and the fact that he stays in his own body, but other than that it's the same show; albeit a show that I liked at the time and I still kind of like now.
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Such was the premise of Donnie Darko...
but the Vibe on this show seems more Darko
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