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TV Guide says:
A top scientist attempts to remove all government secrets from Chuck's brain. But when the scientist is mysteriously killed, the NSA's Casey and the CIA's Sarah blame one another for the assassination---with Chuck caught in the middle of their battle. Elsewhere, Sarah goes undercover, working at a gourmet hot-dog joint to keep an eye on Chuck.
What TV Guide is not telling you:
Chuck learns what happened to Oceanic 815, which crashed on an entirely different network. CIA Sarah’s new employer is Weinerlicious, and it suddenly attracts a growing customer base of teenage boys. NSA John Casey does not do well with Buy More customer service exercises. Best friend Morgan finds the Ramones album he was looking for. And Chuck’s sister has Sarah over for dinner. The episode makes excellent use of the 1982 Violent Femmes classic “Gone Daddy Gone”! At episode's end we learn something of great importance to Chuck will happen in six months.
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Booya
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Holy shit the show is worse than I imagined.
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This is the kind of show that might have survived on a channel like Sci-Fi, but it's not a network show.
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And that means it will probably be on for the next 7 or 8 years. What a shit show, I was shocked when i found out it was an hour long show. How do you fill an hour with so much shit and have more for a second episode
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That's how long it'll take him to seal the deal with the hottie.
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Sure there may have been a few jokes and setups that fell flat, but it has likable characters and decent writing.
I am curious how they plan to keep it going though. Chuck on a spy mission in some dangerous foreign land might work. Who knows.
Still, I am looking forward to the OTHER show about an Everyday Joe who becomes an agent - this one by the creators of 24. Anyone know when this one is due? -
It is going to get a lot of negative fan reaction and press for one reason: it's not quite as good as "Reaper". History trells us if you launch three shows about mysterious alien objects appearing in the water and a team of people trying to discover what they are - Threshold, Invasion, Surface - they will split the concept and the audience. And if you have two shows about the behind the scenes antics at a late night sketch comedy show - 30 Rock, Studio 60 - one will fail and the other will have low ratings but win an Emmy. Going back further, if you have two novels about a skyscraper fire - The Tower, the Inferno - what you out to do is merge them and make one big movie. So obviously if you have two shows about a young geek with a slacker best friend who works in tech support at a big box store, they will get compared. "Chuck's" advantage is that it's on NBC right before Heroes with nothing good on opposite except the Doogie and Willow show. "Reaper's" disadvantage is that it's on a part time baby network opposite some better shows. So I can't call who wins and who dies - advantage Chuck, but Reapers the better show - but do you think both will last until next year?
But having grown up in the '60s, I like espionage and spy-spoof shows. I liked The Avengers, Man from UNCLE, Get Smart, I-Spy, Dangerman-Secret Agent-The Prisoner, and the Matt Helm and Derek Flint movies - all the shows that spoofed the Bond franchise that didn't take it self overly serious to begin with. More recently we had la Femme Nikita, Alias and She-Spies. Chuck is another of that basic genre, in spite of the minor sci-fi elements and comedic trappings. sort of "Alias' meets "Jake 2.0". A fish out of water show like those movies where Billy Crystal analyzes a gangster or Chandler Bing marries a hitmans daughter or whatever. If people give Chuck a chance based on what it is, not what it's not (hard sci-fi/fantasy, serious espionage or "Reaper") they may wind up enjoying it. -
Oceanic Flight 815 was shot down by WHAT?! seriously I missed that garbled mumbo jumbo and wasnt expecting it at all.. someone clue me in ?
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The only word I caught was "subterranean".
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Well lets see, an assasination attempt on Carter led to Oceanic flight 815. I love this show.
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Chuck and Reaper are somewhat similar in tone, but not in premise. At heart it's disposable, escapist fun and not meant to be anything more. Even more, it's a good lead in to Heroes. Now if they could only do something about Journeyman... like give him a holographic sidekick named Al or something.
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Chuck is light and fun, with good dialog and likable characters--not unlike Eureka.Reaper is encored on Thursday nights, so it may well last a while--clearly CW does not have a lot of content to fill its slots, so even if Reaper does not snare a big audience, CW has nothing else. I liked Reaper, too so far, though I give the edge to Chuck based on the first episodes.
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I really enjoy the show. I got into the characters almost immediately and have recommended "Chuck" to at least half a dozen friends. All but one caught the Saturday replay, they all liked it to varying degrees and said they'd give it a shot for the next couple of weeks. Also, "Reaper" was only replayed once, "Supernatural" comes back this week.
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sorry, i liked the pilot but the second one was whatevers
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After the first episode, I said I'd give it a couple more weeks because it looked like it was gonna die of the cutes and by 8:10 pm tonight, I was already sick of this show. It was going to follow the same formula week in and out and they ditched the Goth Asian chick from the Nerd Herd, so buh-bye, Chuck.Hopefully, Reaper will avoid crawling up its own ass and dying. The cast is more appealing, but the writing will tell the tale. (No pun intended.)
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but what is the point of keeping chuck around?? wouldn't most of the information he have be dated and useless after a few weeks anyway? ...it looks like every episode is just going to be him stopping some evil plot that is happening 2 miles from his house. im sure all the governments secrets wont be converging in his local area... where he can keep his job... more hijinx will ensue...
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The joke ratio seemed slightly off this time. Awesome fight scene though.
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Yes, I know it's a Femmes song, but the version they playing over and over is the Gnarls Barkley cover. And I enjoyed the show. Passable entertainment. Thought I heard a mention of flight 815 in there!
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Looks like NBC is going to own my ass every Monday night. Even Journeyman stepped up.
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Just sayin'.
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And go write a better one. It's solid. Not amazing. But solid - cast, writing, execution. I'll keep watching for now.
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I'm sorry but Chuck is just unwatchable, sorry. I tried, I really, really tried.
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Chuck has a data flash and learns the government shot down Oceanic flight 815. Nit that much cooler than Dc using "the numbers" on Catwoman's mug-shot poster, but still a cute detail. And that fight scene in the snack bar was a lot of fun. Sydney Bristow once killed a man whille bound to a chair, but I never saw her in a corn-dog skewer vs. plastic fork duel. The problem seems to be that Zack Levy is still just a little bit Kip from "Less Than Perfect". If he could just reel the goofy expressions in by at least half, maybe that would help. Geek guy gets show with trank gun and is saved when the dart his his official nerd plastic pocket protector... ehh, that's just crappy writing to stereotypes. Him repeating to himself the mantra "just stay in the car, stay in the car..." and then not staying in the car... ehhh... Liked him knowing how to barely survive a helicoptor landing from having played flight simulator video games though. I might write that...
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Chuck +: not afraid to showcase the T&A, Adam Baldwin
Chuck -: the sidekick and the other employees
Reaper +: Ray Wise, stereotypical slacker sidekick is less annoying than steroeotypical geek sidekick
Reaper -: needs to put Heroes' Candace in hotter outfits -
Well summarized.
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They put the hot girl in a fast food place where they can make jokes about the word Weiner, and for some reason, I didn't find it to be a cheap joke. I may start having dreams about the blonde chick in that outfit. And you gotta love the teenage kid hurrying out of the store, back making sure to say "I love you."
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And the comedy is far, far worse. I'll be downloading these shows off iTunes and watching them on the train. At least it beats staring out the window for an hour and a half. Or, you know, reading or something.
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I've watched both and so far I enjoy something about Chuck a tiny bit more. I think it may honestly boil down to Adam Baldwin and the hot blond CIA girl. Now, if Adam Baldwin was playing the devil in Reaper? No contest.
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If only he had the Jayne hair again.
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My god. I knew the one on Reaper was from "Life as We Know It" (not as good as "Undeclared" and definitely not as good as "Freaks and Geeks"), but I didn't realize she was also Candace on Heroes. I guess I just didn't get that good a look at her.
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There's nothing Emmy worthy about it but it's got good characters, good writing and no dull, stupid or cringe-worthy moments which is pretty rare for a new show (or for TV shows in general for that matter). It's solid all around. Adam Baldwin and the Hot Girl also add a lot to what might otherwise be something mediocre. And I even like the side kick guy. But the show doesn't have a very large margin for error so they can't afford to let the quality slip or let it go bland/repetitive.
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"At least we didnt send them to his friend...."perfect!Loving this series so far--the three main characters are great, well cast, and this show is just a lot of fun. I just hope there is one scene where we learn that Baldwin has named his "very favorite gun": Vera.
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Casey lacing his quiche with a tracking device, and then accidentally tracking Chuck's friend because he ate a quiche, was hilarious. 2nd ep overall wasn't nearly as good as the first, I didn't think, but I'll keep watching.
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...I can only assume you've already bought the Criterion Edition DVD of "Stick It", which also featured Missy as the lead.
Oh, and Jeff Bridges as a washed-out former gymnast, too. -
This show is hit or miss, but I feel like it hits more than it misses, so I'll keep watching.
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I thought this might be interesting after having watched the pilot but, after the cliche ridden episode I just saw, I dunno. This episode was so predictable. And I mean way beyond the normal boundaries of predictable. So, yeah, it had better get a wee bit more original if it is to have any staying power.
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I really wanted to like this show! After I watched the pilot this summer, I came away “vaguely excited” and “mildly interested.” The premise is unadulterated crap (come *on*, downloaded secrets into a slacker's head!? Via e-mail!?), but I can get over that; pilots usually have to be taken with a grain of salt, anyway. Shows almost always take time to suss themselves out. Given the characters and smart dialog ion ep 1.01 I was optimistic and looking forward to a cool cross between “Alias” and “Slackers” or “Empire Records” or something in that vein. Instead, what I have now received is a cheesy, lazily-written, stereotype-riding turd that utterly fails to entertain.
And it ain't the actors' fault. They all seem to be doing a good job, but you have to admit that the producers have made some serious mistakes when the funniest thing about the show (which I am STILL laughing about) is that the hero's sister's boyfriend is called Captain Awesome. To his face. All of the time. “Because he always says 'awesome' and everything that he does is awesome.” Genius... But even this would be funnier if said Captain wasn't some shallow, surfer dude-looking, uninteresting pretty boy like Elliot's Keith on “Scrubs.” Maybe if he was darker, mysterious and really hated Chuck I would give a crap about him.
Which just about sums up how I feel about this whole darn thing.
Its like the writers come of with a bunch of cool/funny scenes that they can put their Geek Hero into and then try to build a story around it. If the show's makers could maybe take themselves a little more seriously and throw little winks out to the audience, instead of trying to be some slap-happy, full-on Geek Fantasy Fulfillment show, I might feel obliged to watch it again. For now, though, they've pretty much lost me. -
At the start it seemed to jump all over the place, almost like it wanted to be another pilot trying to establish the story. They could have dumped all that shit for a short recap saying he got all the CIA's secrets in his head and now he has to rival agents protecting him. No need for all that jumping around and wasting time with dialogue getting viewers up to speed. Maybe they were running short? At any rate, it was pretty predictable that John Fleck's character was going to be the bad guy, they need to work harder on the stories.
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And what was up with the the recap? But on the ADR front. Can someone at NBC Universal please for all that is Holy stop with the lame Additional Dialoge Recording when the actors' mouths are not even moving. This company has been doing this crap for over 30 years, going back to the "Rockford Files." I hate that. It takes me completely out of the scene. Sorry, rant over. Anyway, I'm still sticking with it for a little while longer. As "chromedome" said this show is in the vein of the sister cable channel's summer series Eureka.-----later-----m
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Funny, surprisingly decent action, Adam Baldwin, a hot chick in that Wiener-chick outfit, lots of geek-friendly jokes. Yep, I'm enjoying this one. Apparently, some of you expected Citizen Kane.
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Yes, it was weaker than the pilot, but entertaining. It's definitely too early to hate the show now.
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that Reaper and Supernatural are the same damn show?
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of some show from the eighties? This one is "The Greatest American Hero" without the cape, and with Baldwin in the Robert Culp role.
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Its just a comedic version of "Brimstone". C'mon, peeps!
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I swear, there was this one episode of "Andy Richter Controls the Universe" that totally ripped off an episode of "Greatest American Hero" line for line. Granted, I had consumed some monster pot brownies about an hour before, but the tv seemed to go slow-mo and I somehow remembered the old episode line for line and it matched. I'll have to try that again. Maybe I'll learn that an episode of "Chuck" is ripping off "Small Wonder" mixed with "The Master", "The Highwayman" or even "Shadow Chasers".
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I felt the pilot was mediocre, I thought it was nowhere near as clever or as funny as it thought it was. I guess because I went into this week with much lower expectations, I found the second episode more entertaining, not great, but O.K. (did get a good chuckle out of the Oceanic flight 815 thing).It did, however, drop nearly a million viewers from last week, so I'm sticking with my prediction that this show dosen't make it out of October
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Oct 03, 2007 9:43:31 AM CDT
I think it's refreshingly fun. A lot of the TV dramas
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lately. Are a bit grave. And there are too few writers who can consistantly and successfully blend comedy and drama in the same show.
So the next best thing is to at least have a fairly light action comedy to break up the grave stuff.
Adam Baldwin's outrageous trying to fit in to BuyMore. All three leads are fun. The fight scenes are hilarious in a good way.
How I Met Your Mother still kicks a little more ass on the comedic front, but the beaty of TiVo is it makes for both. Kind of like it better after Heroes and Journeyman anyway.
Like The Nothing said it's not Citizen Kane. But really all Kane all the time would get depressing after a while. I like the heavyb dramas like BSG but TV should be plain fun sometimes too. -
It's OK, but It has that crappy "Charlie's Angels" Vibe thanks to McG, which I hope slowly disappears from the show, and becomes more of its own thing
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Like a house of cards waiting for the winds of low ratings to blow it over. Reaper, despite clunky editing and direction in the pilot, is a better show.
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A lot of people seem to enjoy it. So this means the fine tradition of great shows being cancelled after a season or two and the mediocre shows going on for ten years will continue.
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pure awesomeness. And still no Talkback. What gives?
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