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It’s a sci-fi actioner about a hot bartender whose government scientist boyfriend gives her an artificial eye, an artificial ear, an artificial arm and two artificial legs following a grisly automotive mishap.
Though Miguel Ferrer plays the bigwig whose secret agency makes Jaime Sommers better, stronger and faster, the new “Bionic Woman” pilot is no “RoboCop.”
And it doesn’t contain a lot we haven’t seen before, in “RoboCop,” in “Terminator,” in “Spider-Man,” in “X-Men,” in the original “Bionic Woman,” in “Buffy The Vampire Slayer,” in “Angel,” in “Dark Angel,” and so on and so forth.
The big problem with the pilot is it doesn’t get us to care very much about Jaime Sommers (Britisher Michelle Ryan). She’s hard to judge because she’s not given any defining choices to make.
The situation surrounding Ms. Sommers, however, is promising. A foreigner is determined to kill scientist boyfriend Will, and Will has a Lectoresque/Magnetoesque mad-scientist father, Anthony Anthros, who’s being held in a special prison 1,000 feet below California. (The old man is played by Britisher Mark Sheppard, so great this year as Baltar’s limping lawyer Romo Lampkin on “Battlestar Galactica.”)
As the pilot concludes the more interesting bionic woman is Sarah Corvus (Katee Sackhoff), who was driven murderously insane years earlier by the nanotech designed to make her whole. Sackhoff is a lot of fun to watch in the showy role (her evil cyborg may be even more fun to watch than her work as snarly Starbuck) but she’s still got her day job flying vipers on “Galactica” and will only participate on this series as a recurring player.
I have faith, though, that the series will find its nano-engineered legs as it soldiers on. I know screenwriter Glen Morgan (“The One,” “Willard,” “Final Destination 3”) is no longer with the series. I know writer-producer Jason Smilovic, who oversaw the excellent (if short-lived) “Karen Sisco” and “Kidnapped,” has joined up. So has Jason Katims, who created the TV version of “Roswell” and now oversees “Friday Night Lights.” I know the talented screenwriter Laeta Kalogridis (“Alexander,” “Battle Angel”) is credited with the pilot script (though I’m not certain how involved she remains with the series). I know “Galactica” writer-producer David Eick makes his debut as showrunner. That’s some kind of talent pool!
USA Today gives it one and a half stars (out of four) and says:
… Bionic was and is just a fun, mechanical twist on Supergirl. Loading it down with pain, regret, conspiracies and Freudian father issues may produce a more serious show, but it doesn't produce a better one. … Oh, and there's the hour's one bright spot — Katee Sackhoff, another Battlestar transfer, as a bionic woman gone bad. Alas, while it's fine to have a villain who is more colorful than your hero, it's not so fine to have a supporting actor who makes your star vanish whenever they're on screen together. It makes you think that what this remake of a spinoff really needs is a spinoff of its own.
The New York Times says:
… more about fembot martial arts and slick “Matrix”-ish special effects than about character development …
The Los Angeles Times says:
… great new noir remake … it's not your mother's "Bionic Woman." It's much, much better. …
The Chicago Tribune says:
… Rating: Blah, with a few exceptions. There are moments when "Bionic Woman," the disappointingly average remake of the Lindsay Wagner vehicle from the '70s, comes to life. They're when Katee Sackhoff (who plays Kara "Starbuck" Thrace on "Battlestar Galactica") is on the screen. The catch: Sackhoff isn't the show's star character.
The Washington Post says:
… There are plenty of "Terminator" and "Blade Runner" touches spiffing up the new version, but the central appeal of a miraculous, gorgeous, gadget-assisted heroine remains strong -- and it's unlikely that people longing for the old version when they tune in will still feel that longing after a half-hour's exposure to the new one. … …
The San Francisco Chronicle says:
… as glossy and enticing as "Bionic Woman" may seem, there's big trouble in the pilot. … The trouble lies in the casting and the concept. Ryan seems too inert, not nearly aggressive enough for the role. This becomes clear when she faces off with "Battlestar Galactica" star Katee Sackhoff, who plays the first rebuilt Bionic Woman - gone bad. Not only is Sackhoff infinitely more likable as an antiheroine, she pops off the screen while Ryan doesn't. They got the wrong bionic woman. Either that or they need to let the bad bionic woman get a whole lot more screen time. When the two do battle in the pilot, you can't help but think, "Why am I rooting for the bad girl?"
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer says:
… Wagner stood tall and exuded confidence in the role, unlike her sequel Michelle Ryan, who looks as if a stronger-than-average gust of wind could send her flying down the street. … You stop believing in Ryan's Sommers whenever Sackhoff's Corvus is around, and start hoping that the scientists who created her come to the conclusion that, you know, maybe that first project wasn't so bad after all. …
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:
… This "Bionic Woman" pilot is a downbeat drag, but buried somewhere beneath all the moping is an intriguing show that might yet emerge. … Sackhoff's evil character, by virtue of being more mysterious and due to her superior performance, is more intriguing than Jaime Sommers. …
The Milwuakee Journal-Sentinel says:
… someone forgot to give Jaime - and "Bionic Woman" - a heart, which makes this slick, swiftly moving series strangely lifeless. …
The Mimai Herald says:
… The Battlestar Galactica connection is no coincidence. Both shows are produced by David Eick, and both are intelligent and entertaining reimaginations of stupefyingly bad pieces of 1970s sci-fi hackwork. …
The Boston Herald says:
We can rebuild her. We have the technology. Remind me again, why should we bother? … As the refurbished Jaime Sommers, British star Michelle Ryan (“EastEnders”) is as dull as a rusty wrench. … Sackhoff’s delivery of this twisted metal killer is delicious. She shows Ryan to be the Inferior Woman. …
Variety says:
… A little messy in its conception, the series still exhibits considerable potential -- the kind that inspires checking out a second episode …
The Hollywood Reporter says:
… the opener delivers the goods as a promising, if at times hackneyed, piece of foreboding drama. …
9 p.m. Wednesday. NBC.


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That's the same wench who fucked up the BIRDS OF PREY series. I mean, Oracle, Black Canary and the Huntress...how do you screw that up? Oh, yeah...you make Black Canary a kid who has precognitive powers instead of a grown woman with a sonic scream.
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How is Baltar's lawyer old enough to be playing the father of one of the main characters?
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The Woman is still Jaime Sommers (EastEnders import Michelle Ryan), but now she's a bartender raising a teenage sister (Lucy Kate Hale) and dating a super-smart professor, Will (Chris Bowers). Good thing, too, because after a near-fatal accident, he saves her life by turning her bionic.
You'd think that once the initial shock passed, she'd be grateful. In this show, not so much. Instead, Ryan delivers almost every line with the same, steady whine, squeezing whatever energy there might have been out of an already tiresome premise.
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Thrown on top of the story like a smothering blanket are a host of uninvolving characters: the coldly cynical official in charge of the project (Miguel Ferrer); the second-in-command who stakes out the middle ground (Molly Price); the trainer who hates Will (Will Yun Lee); and Will's crazy, imprisoned father (Battlestar's Mark Sheppard), who's in league with the show's shadowy bad guys.
Oh, and there's the hour's one bright spot — Katee Sackhoff, another Battlestar transfer, as a bionic woman gone bad. Alas, while it's fine to have a villain who is more colorful than your hero, it's not so fine to have a supporting actor who makes your star vanish whenever they're on screen together. It makes you think that what this remake of a spinoff really needs is a spinoff of its own.
None of this means the show won't draw a crowd, at least initially. The ads are terrific (far better than the show they're promoting), and there is a fan base that likes its fantasies somber and its heroines pouty. Which may be why Bionic plays like it was created, not so much to run on TV, but to provide panels for comic book conventions -
...how can you NOT love Katee Sackhoff?!
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I'm so not watching this.
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..that has happened with the show - new cast cast members (biggot Isaiah Washington [hey, I dislike gay people too, but I don't use the "f" word in public]) and writers leaving the show, I have no doubt this show won't make it past two seasons.
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Don't explain what happens to her, it's not the Bionic Woman. Plus, without the echoing "dun-dun-dun-dun, na-na-na-na" machine sound when she lifts heavy things, it just won't feel right.
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It must suck for the star of this series (Michelle Ryan) to see all of these gushing reviews for a recurring character (Katee Sackhoff).
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Where to begin? The girl is really cute and likable and zzzzzzzzzz..
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"ED" or "Mack" or whatever that one is with the guy who has all the government secrets in his brain. "Ned?" Except the sleazy buddy character needs to be slapped around a bit. That pilot had better action in the first ten minutes then Bionic had for the whole hour (although the guy who did all the action then died). Bionic girl's Dr. (son of an evil Dr.) boyfriend, is very, very creepy. "Reaper" was surprisingly entertaining, I actually am adding it to the Tivo. Bionic won't be Tivo'd unless I'm compelled to watch another episode and it's a lot better. I found it kind of dull actually, with a lot of people standing around looking off in the distance, to create a false sense of depth.
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it's just not. I couldn't finish it and fast jumped ahead through most of it...tis gets a huge PASS from me.
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actually very bad...poor script, bad acting, bad FX...just boring. There's no way this show will last.
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Every review seems to say she was the only good part of the show and I have to agree. They don't give her much to work with, but she's at least charismatic and interesting. The rest is fairly unwatchable.
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unless they revamp it to make Katee the star.
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I've been rewatching season 3 of Galactica and my god she pwns the whole show (yes I just said 'pwn', sue me). She can play absolutely anything, where some of the cast only seem to be able to do one thing (Jamie Bamber as Lee Adama is a bit of a weak link IMO)
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if they can successfully move away from the show becoming a one trick pony where every episode is either about dealing with being a cyborg or just getting the bad guy of the week using bionics. The show will also need to go somewhere/evolve to avoid going stale. Characters, relationships, objectives, episode focus etc need to change and grow. They did it successfully when they remade BSG so I have some hopes but Galactica has some advantages in that it has a large cast (with great actors) set in a large, fantasy universe. The very nature of a show called "Bionic Woman" set in the "real world" seems to indicate that all the themes will center around one person which would make broadening the show's universe much harder to do.
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If it is true love
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where the nipples pop out like those bad ass opera glasses and spear you thru the eyeballs..now that is a useful bionic enhancement.
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"biggot Isaiah Washington [hey, I dislike gay people too, but I don't use the "f" word in public]" You know, you may not use the "f" word in public, but the simple fact that you admit to not liking a group of people would indicate that you too are a bigot. Way to go.
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then Sackhoff will make sure to blunt force traumatize his homophobic ass to make sure he gets back in line.
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Best described as dark in a bad way. The heroine is bizarrely pissed off at her boyfriend for saving her life. The attempt to create an aura of some kind of "conspiracy" falls flat because there's no clue that they've even thought of one. And there are lots of logic holes: Katee Sackhoff figures out the very best way to kill a scientist would be to ram a truck into the passenger side of his car? Really? And then not take the extra 30 seconds to check and see if he's dead? Really? And that's the best-looking effect you can come up with for running really fast? The best thing I can really say is that the main girl has a ridiculously good-looking set of lips.
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... I think I am going to start suing people that still use "pwn," "teh," or "evah." Most of the offenders are utterly judgment-proof, but hopefully it will have a deterrent effect. Fucking 8-ball jacket wearers.
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After Galactica is over, it'd be great to see the writers have the two fembots switch the chips in their heads (or some other plot device) so that Katee could be the lead. Hey, Faith was bad in BTVS and then turned out good...it wouldn't have to be THAT much of a stretch.
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Some shows are stellar from the first episode...others take time to grow into something good..Babylon 5 was pants in the first series but then took off...I am not convinced that the idea was good...t'was a bad show back in the day...but what the hey...any sci-fi is better than no sci-fi...with BSG finishing, what do we really have on TV? As for the lead: give her a few shows...she's a Brit actress who's never done action...Katee's been doing it for over 3 years - she's had practice to be good...lets see Katie do the roles that Michelle did in the UK - she'd be wiped off the screen.
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Hey, at least give points for getting all three of them in the subject header ;)
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Katee is good...but a whole show just of her, would get annoying fast! Someone mentioned Faith from Buffy...how bad was her show - Tru Calling...? Bad...real bad...
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says that Sackhoff is the true star of the show. Here's hoping the show gets the time it needs to find its bearings. Ryan isn't bad; she brought her 'A' game to Jekyll, that BBC miniseries now out on DVD. My fear is that it'll be cancelled quicker than Nashville, which Fox shitcanned today.
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But Eliza Dushku is not, and if there was a "Faith" series that would turn out a LOT different. Dushku in Tru Calling is like putting Katee in Ghost Whisperer.
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Then forget this supposed abortion of a Bionic Woman ever happened? The main character looks generic and bland and from what I've seen, acts that way. Katee's character has spice and that's something people want to see nowadays. People aren't interested in the goody-goody characters from yesteryear anymore. They want people with flaws because it comes off as more realistic as opposed to the perfect boy or or in this case, girl-scout type. Me, I'll just watch it cause I want to see Katee kick some ass.
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ryan got owned by sackhoff in her own show.
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Trope a dope.
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Seriously. She is even more compelling and hot as a the evil first bionic woman than she is as Starbuck. Worth watching if only for her performance.
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To be fair, the original Bionic Woman, w/ few exceptions, was a bad show. Badly written, that is. The only reason it worked was because of the star, Lindsay Wagner. The problem w/ all these remake shows is that the creators start w/ the premise and try to capture the magic, but the magic was in the actors, not the premise. So let me state this as clearly as I can. Lindsay Wagner was and still is the Bionic Woman in the same way that Darren McGavin is Carl Kolchak, William Shatner is Captain Kirk, Peter Sellars is Inspector Clouseau, and so on. Just put the original Bionic Woman on DVD and leave the rest alone.
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they shouldn't have buried it opposite Private Practice and Criminal Minds and/or should rerun the debut on Saturday, instead of Heroes and Chuck, which everyone has already seen. Slate Bionica for mid-season cancelation at episode 13. I hear the cat fight scene is pretty hot, though, if that's what gets you woody.
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when do we get the season 3 dvd? Hasn't it already been released in the UK?
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If they fucking let Studio 60 live. This will live. If you notice something about all the NBC shows. It's their potential. Most of the critics -- or a good portion -- feel all of these shows have potential. So... give this show fucking time. It's not like NBC is in a rush. Their new president actually has decided to take a slow and steady approach. Which is a good thing.
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FYI, the show repeats on Sci-Fi Fridays at... 7:00, I think. I don't know if that's a permanent slot, but I may catch it there and watch something else on Wednesdays.
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"The best thing I can really say is that the main girl has a ridiculously good-looking set of lips."
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Loved that.Also, do the actresses move in slow motion like the original series? Cannot wait for my Jamie Sommers action figure with a bionic kung fu grip.
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Suck, sorry I don't care about Bionic Women looks wicked lame. Chuck was good, and so was Reaper and they pretty much are the same show. But John Larroquette on LEGAL was HORRIBLE! It looked like he was about laugh the whole time, this may be the jumped the shark reason for probably the best show on TV. Unless they make Kirk follow through on his promise to Maltz. I miss Odo. Again for bionic women... British Actress, was that NBC's plan this year, make a whole bunch of shows starring British people, they make better TV shows anyway. Bionic Women will suck because it takes to much time to make good special effects shows, why do you think Battlestar takes forever with new episodes.
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It remains to be seen if it's any good. I'm sure the BSG fanatics will love this show. I just hope this entire series is not a show about two bionic women fighting each other every episode.
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Sep 26, 2007 12:22:14 PM CDT
Get Katee Sackoff signed for PREACHER immediately!!!
by carmillavondoom
'Nuff said
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Gosh, I dunno. I'd hate to miss Chef
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If not, then why the hell not?
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the main chick sucks.
Why on gods earth they picked her I have no clue but she creeps me out.
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She's always been very good in the stuff she's done. I think it's the weak and generic character that the script calls for that does it.
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wow, what a huge letdown this show was, I dont see this lasting an entire season.
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Best two-hot-chicks-fighting-in-the-rain scene since DOA.
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And I'm not even talking about the lame voiceover or the trite and irritating "Dah Dah DAAAH!" gameshow music and editing. Last week's ep should have been titled "Let's Laugh at the Goombah." Where's the actual emphasis on the FUCKING food?! WHERE?!!!
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had they gone with the high-energy, athletic iconic approach, since today fitness is bigger than in the 70's-- merchandising, sneakers, everything. Instead, it's the same washed out color, depressing characters and convoluted dead end plots wrapped in soap opera. Hollywood, the whole "dark" thing is so cliche now even the smarmy reviews in newspapers don't think it's hip anymore. You can have dark themes in your script, without having to put main characters in dark clothes, under low lights, dripping attitude like sweat. Two supermoodels on a sunny beach, plotting crime, that's dark. Gritty, grainy film and yet another rain splattered fight is just superficial frills. And if they're doing angst, stop selling the show as rip-roaring action with those commercials. Pony up for the location shoots, saquatch and bionic props, then you'll have a show. Write the freshness into the character. The star is nice, though.
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Sep 26, 2007 1:40:29 PM CDT
The Problem with the Character is that she is Whiney..!
by darfurontherocks
Spoilers.....The amount of resentment that she piles on her boyfriend is ridiculous. This is a woman that would be dead without the nanotech. She acts as if the powers that be mutilated her body and cut off her existing limbs! They could even have got some mileage from the old "what is it to be human?" routine that Robocop and Blade Runner did so well. However, Bionic Woman just comes off as shallow as hell. And I do not think that a bartender could outfight a season military vet...
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Damn, Jamie got all the option in this one. I think in the original show she only got the ear, oh well. Also no "na na na" sound effects and slow motion hauling ass scenes makes me a little sad.
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Sep 26, 2007 1:46:51 PM CDT
Christopher3 - I totally agree about Kitchen Nightmares
by bringingsexyback
I like the original much better. This Americanized version reeks of cheap Fox-ness. I thought the goombah was gonna punch Gordon but he's just a big baby after all. Next time I'm in Long Island I'm gonna stop by that place and see this trainwreck of a restaurant for myself.
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They only good thing about this show being in America is now I can go to these places without having to blow my money by the pound.
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Hopefully this show does not get as bad as Dark Angel did in its 2nd season.
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They totally went with the wrong person as the Bionic Woman. Watching the pilot, I was struck by how OBVIOUS this is... so obvious that the director should have stopped production while shooting, fire the lead, and put Sackhoff in as the star.
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Ryan is very attractive and capable, but totally miscast. It's hard to see her in the role. The first episode was so very generic in its set-up... There were so many ways they could have gone with this show, it makes you wonder why...
And where the fuck is Oscar Goldman?
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in my opinion. The pilot that is airing tonight is not the original, they made some serious changes to the whole sister plot line (like giving her hearing and making her annoying). The original pilot was really good and enjoyable, it just worked. The new one...not as much. I'll still watch though, I'm sure It'll get better.
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they cram a lot into the pilot, but there seems to be a lot of story potential in this show and considering the talent that's behind this show, I'm betting it will turn into something really great if it's given the chance to get through a whole season. Also, when did NBC all of a sudden become the coolest of the major networks?!? Until a year or two ago, I'm not sure I'd watched anything on their network since Freaks and Geeks got cancelled. Now all of a sudden they've got The Office and Heroes and pretty much every good pilot coming out t his year.
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the younger sister is hip... she's happenin'... she's got ZAZ!... whatever you call... she's got it; and the teenagers will eat it up!!!
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I'll save my Sakhoff hate for another post, but if she has one bionic arm, and two bionic legs, how is she able to lift a car over her head using both hands, both legs, and not crushing her vertebrae so all that is left holding the car up is a set of really metal terminator type legs? It makes no sense. Chewbacca living with ewoks kind of no sense. Therefore, you must acquit.
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Why is the Bionic Woman fat???? Big blowsy, double-chinned Silverstone lookalike. Not a good sign when they can't even mask her thickness in the print ads and promos. This chick's gonna balloon to fucking 220 if the show's a hit and laziness sets in. The tight black leather outfits aren't exactly Beckinsale-flattering on Michelle Ryan.
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You have GOT to be kidding us with this review. Somebody paying you for this crap?Wild mood swings from watching this -- from uproarious laughter at the utter ridiculousness of the script to pulse-pounding anger that THIS is how they bring back the Bionic Woman. Utter freakin' trash!Dude, take one freakin' second and equate "bionics" to, say, an F-22 Raptor. 'Kay? Now, what are the chances that a "scientist" manages to "give" one to his girlfriend (with special surgery, mind you) without the knowledge and advice of ALL his superiors?!?!?Especially considering how the last one apparently went "rogue!"What, they're just tossin' bionics out with Happy Meals down at the ol' Bionics Barn?!?!? Buy one bionic leg, get the second one (and arm and eye and ear and...) free?Yeah, even though the last test subject went absolutely bat shit fucking crazy and starting killing motherfuckers like she was from Virginia Tech, we're just gonna leave ALL these other bionic parts over here COMPLETELY unsupervised. We work on the honor system here at Fuckwit Systems, Inc. (A DefCon Subsidiary)!ALSO, I've got another CRAZY question! Say you're the handsome young scientist whose girlfriend has just lost various body parts in an horrific accident and just say that you convince yourself that SHE can take the transition when the LAST CHICK went all psycho killer, right?Now say you manage to sneak her past super high-tech security and deep into your lab at Fuckwit Systems, Inc. (A DefCon Subsidiary) and slap those bad boys bionics complete with "nano-technology" onto her before ANYBODY is the wiser, right? Still with me?Now SAY that you're gonna spring the big surprise about her ALL NEW and IMPROVED BIONIC LIMBS on her when she wakes up, okay? So, knowing what you knowing about the last loony bitch and the bloody body part redecorating that SHE DID and the incredibly tremendous shock that this is gonna be to your main squeeze and how she's gonna hafta get used to her new SUPER STRENGTH,...Wouldn't you want to, oh, I don't know, maybe say turn the power setting down to like a "2" or "3" so that, on the OFF CHANCE, that she DOES FREAK OUT that she DOESN'T slam your dumb, mad scientist ass across the room?Maybe? Huh? Good idea there?And this, folks, is just the beginning of the inane, idiocies in the story of a young urban slacker chick who is magically gifted with top secret, highly experimental, very costly upgrades that may have turned the last chick that got 'em into a psychopathic killing machine by her mad scientist boyfriend without anybody stopping him or even knowing about it.Yes, sir, Herc, a real fuckin' winner here!Of the "big" premieres I was looking forward to (Heroes, Chuck, Journeyman, Sarah Connor Chronicles, and Bionic), this is BY FUCKING FAR, the worst of the bunch. I will absolutely NEVER watch this horrid piece of shit again.Journeyman, on the other hand, was great and NOT to be missed.Seriously, Herc, what is wrong with you?
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Dude, guys like you are why 15 year old girls get ulcers and develop eating disorders. Ryan is in good shape. She's fine. The idea that she is "fat" is out of this world fucking ridiculous. Post again when you've walked around in the world and seen what real women look like.
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Sep 26, 2007 4:38:52 PM CDT
guys all acting like "Katee Sackhoff" is some huge star
by charles grady
Isn't she the poor man's Brittany Murphy from HALLOWEEN: TRICK OR TREAT, MOTHERFUCKER????? I love when nerds act like some theretofore C-list actor is suddenly some fucking ICON once they've been on a cult TV show. See Nathan Fillion, Alan Tudyk, Adam Baldwin. Okay, Baldwin does kind of OWN, but because of his movies, not because of some sci-fi dork shit TV show.
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I was merely pointing out that by the standards of most cat-suited SUPERHEROES, she's a bit on the thick side. Just odd that a major network cast someone who isn't exactly of the usual athletic, lanky thinness that has become a standard for such characters. Maybe it's just her lantern jaw that's giving me a misperception, but in every poster and promo, I've seen Ryan stuffed into a bursting, unflattering blouse or jacket. Just an odd casting choice, like if Superman was played by an actor with a beer gut and Peter Boyle's hair pattern.
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and used a bionic mouse. That would have been original. Have him go on missions to steal cheese or fight the neighbors cat.
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Do u think Lee Majors will guest star to boost ratings??
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I'm sure if you have a bionic arm, you don't need your back to support the weight. I'm sure the arm carries all the weight of the car.
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If that's so, then she can lay her flab all over me. She is lovely! Haven't seen her in this show yet, so I can't judge her acting, but she was good in Jekyll.
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Go back to Biology 101. Then head over to Physics 101. All your bionic limb quandries will be answered. If you're still not grapsing it try Bionics 101. They'll DEFINITELY cover it in that class.
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Has become a much better actor over the BSG years. Watch her in the first season as opposed to this last one. Quite an impressive change.
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Oh wait, that's the other bionic woman show that's not called bionic woman.
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From Birds of Prey? Hate to say it, because I've been looking forward to BW, but that was an embarrasingly written show. Oracle: "Because we're Super-Heroes. It's what we do". As soon as a superhero refers to his/herself like that, it's over.
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Maybe 400,000 people on the planet have ever heard of her. She is underrated, if anything.
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This show was horrible. And, to the person who felt the original pilot (the one they refilmed, which had the sister being deaf, etc.) 'rocked'... wtf are you smoking? I saw that pilot, and it was absolutely just as bad.
Let's see... we have a poorly written show with an uncharismatic main character, insipid co-stars making illogical decisions.... I know, let's change the sister! That will fix it all!
I agree that Ryan is simply wrong for the part. (And her chin and doughy face don't help, no matter how good she may have been in other roles) However, I thought Sackhoff was terrible too. People seem to think that 'being evil' equates to 'being cool.' Sure, her backstory is more interesting than the main character's, (not that that's very difficult), but the god-awful dialogue sounds just as ludicrous when Sackhoff says it as when Ryan does, and she has continued her signature trait of badly overacting.
It's amazing that it took less than an hour for the show to take an interesting and time tested premise and make it so incredibly uncool.
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pilot sucked, but I hear they did a bunch of changes..
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Laeta Kalogridis. Look, I'm not a mean guy, and I don't like to rip on people for their past work, but if I'm not mistaken, this woman is the behind-the-scenes equivilant of Rob Schneider. No matter how badly her stuff performs - Birds of Prey being the most obvious example - she just keeps getting work! HOW?!?!
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Sep 26, 2007 7:24:17 PM CDT
At least Lindsay Wagner is TRYING to put you to sleep
by anakin whoopass
On a Sleep Number bed.
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Despite what all the naysayers are whining about.
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I have to wait another week to see the revised one on Channel 7 here in Oz next thursday. I think its a shame Mae Whitman had to go though.
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One of the problems here is tone... Eick just tried to graft the grim tone of BSG onto "Bionic Woman," when the material here needed to be at least a little more fun and light-hearted. It doesn't have to be camp, but how about a show where at least it doesn't seem to be gray-skyed or raining every five seconds with people moping around all over the place? I mean, on BSG, they've just lost their whole f'ckin civilization, so the grim tone works, but c'mon, with "Bionic Woman" vary your style a little bit or get accused of being a one-trick pony. For one thing, the woman just wakes up and discovers that instead of having her arm and legs amputated she's now a super-being, and her response is mopey depression instead of "Whaaaa-hoooo?" Give me a break.
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PLEASE DEAR LORD DO THE CHA-CHa-Cha-cha-cha sound.
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Yeah, PC Schmee-C. Dear lord why does this garbage remain on TV. TAKE THE 42K. If not you're stupid as hell!!!!
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Why didn't I just watch Kid Nation???
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Kind of like I wish death upon Family Guy.
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Bad choice. Sorry generation 6 onto generation 7.
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Very funny subject. Completely disagree with you, but you are a person of some intellectual depth. Maybe the show will be better.
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...what is up with these rip-off shows. you got Journeyman which is an obvious Quantuum Leap rip-off and now this.
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Inside of her legs reminded me of INFRA MAN!
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I didn't know they refilmed some of it...it sounds like the "improved" version is just as bad from what everyone is saying, but I haven't seen it. I'm glad they got rid of the deaf sister as she was pointless and a drag.
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Was much stronger than the first. There is potential to this show. I also thought I saw three BSg actors, am I correct?
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There's Katie and I'm pretty sure I saw the fellow who plays Chief as a guard at the super-max prison. Not sure who the third was. The show looks okay. I'll probably watch so long as Sackoff is in the episode. Whether or not it can hold my attention after she leaves remains to be seen.
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I neither liked it or hated it. I have to agree that Ryan seems to miscast for the role, but it may just be the writing. She went from shrieking, freaked out harpy to clam, cool fighting machine in record time and with little explanation.
On the plus side the special effects where pretty good and the final fight between Ryan and Sackhoff was fairly well done. However, I have to believe two bionic arms > one bionic arm. No way Jaime Sommers should have won that fight. -
It has one or two more episodes to get good or I'm done. Wow, what a bad show.
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And it SUCKED like everyone said it would. Good thing I could only bear the first 15 minutes
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Episode 3 needs to be the one where Jamie Sommers teaches her sister how to satisfy a woman. I mean DAMN ! I'd love to see Grandma Sommers, because she had some smoking hot genes she passed down the food chain. That being said, it's got promise - nice pacing, very stylish and decent acting. The writing just needs to catch up. I'll give it a few episodes, since it's clear the Pilot and first couple are just setting the stage. Oh, and does anyone know if those blood additives will regrow the bionic woman's cherry ? Just curious.
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It wasn't bad. The bionic stuff was cool. They even spent less time on the setup than I feared. The show's definitely got potential. I'm in for another episode. Lighten up, people. And the villains are ALWAYS more interesting than the hero.
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I'm a big fan of David Eich for "Battlestar Galactica," but five minutes into "Bionic Woman" I was cringing inwardly. That was far, far worse than what I expected. The problem -- and it's a fucking huge one -- is that Jamie is a boring character. The characters around her are kind of cool, but she's paper thin and yawn-inducingly boring. I was looking forward to her interactions with the deaf sister, but apparently they canned the deaf sister and gave Jamie a fucking pissant bitch who's as paper thin as Jamie.
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Jesus H Christ. No wonder so many women are anorexic! How do you expect the show to include bouncing bionic boobies if the woman's a waif? AUGH!
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That chick is hot. I could take care of that in less than a minute, and that includes tidying-up time. I'll be a weekly viewer, damn skippy.
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I'm willing to give it six episodes or so for characters and plots to develop. Jaime was kinda whiny and reluctant in the pilot, but... she just got turned into a half-robot! Does all character development have to take place in the pilot, or can we see where it goes from here before judgment is passed? I think it's got potential, especially if they are willing to throw in some weird, even super-powered adversaries. And Michelle Ryan has nice, bouncy boobs. :)
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Good start. I especially love the potential that the show has. Looks like this first episode has the right amount of momentum to be a hit. Plus, the line for next week with "I think I want to try this whole saving the world thing." makes me want to see more of this show for sure. Here's hoping it has the longevity that it deserves.
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Not all character development needs to take place in the pilot, I agree, but I prefer writing that instantly drops viewers into an compelling emotional landscape. "Bionic Woman" was as flat as Ryan's boobs were round. She looked great, no doubt, but damn that was brutally weak writing. I'm not one of those people who's willing to wait till episode seven for something cool to happen, so I'm already not on board.
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disappointing.
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"I saved your life and gave you new limbs, but if you want to be a bitch about it, I guess I can shut the nano-whatevers off, and get you fitted with a nice wheelchair"
Could she have been less grateful?
What was up with "Time out"?
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was the audio quality really, really, really bad? Oh ya, and ya gotta luv Katee, even with this dialogue.
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They should've made the pilot two hours and like others have said Michelle Ryan might be miscast and Starbuck might've made a better lead but good God, without better writers this show isn't going anywhere. I feel bad for the actors who had to make something out of that garbage. The show does have potential though and I'm hoping the new talent they've put together fixes the problems.
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Sep 26, 2007 11:17:34 PM CDT
15 minutes in and it's already several kinds of stupid.
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Hey Doc! You just got hit by a semi! Now it's time to operate on the girl you just happened to ask to marry you! Thank God you didn't get a concussion after that horrible auto accident!STUPID!
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Seemed to be prepping for a great series. Premire was basically backstory getting ready to go.
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NANOTECH! NANOBOTS! NANOEAREYLEGS!!!Man...that's just lazy writing.
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I'm not watching this show! :I
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"...I mean, the company knows everything about you. Where you live. Who you love. This place is VERY top secret and they are willing to kill to keep it that way, but go back to you're life. I'll try to convince them it's better this way after you're gone. I'd hate to try to continue to convince them while you're here. I mean...the last girl was driven mad by the technology you have in your body...but I figure that won't happen twice, y'know? I think the chances are low that you'll become an evil killing machine like my last experiment. Oh! If they let you live, we have a bionic dog you're just gonna love. His name's Max and he experienced a few problems in the past...but he should be fine. Ok. I'll call you later if they let me live and don't charge me with treason. See ya!"ARRRRGGGGH!
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...having the first recipient of an ass kicking by the newly empowered heroine being that of a rapist.ZZZZzzzzzz*snort*wha...huh...CLICHE!
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The Great Kali of WWE would give Michelle Ryan a real challenge. On a side note, the lead is very Irish looking, and reasonably hot.
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think about it.
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I believe he said it was military machines or nanobots implanted in her cerebral cortex. I would imagine thats how she could fight like that. Didn't she say she wasnt totally in control when she beat that guy up in the alley. And she is no where close to fat you idiots!!! She's smokin hot with the eyes and the dark hair. And the rack!!!!
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wasnt perfect, but judging a show from the first episode is childish, imagine if everyone judged star trek the next gen based on its horrible first episode and first two seasons for that matter.. this show will last, and for that matter whoever said it was "buried" against private practice and the other show...are u kidding ? private practice will be gone before this is, guaranteed....that misguided spinoff which really i cant understand why its a spinoff when it should be called a "castoff" of a worthless character meant to build tension and conflict btween two main characters, which it did....i never found her that interesting, only clutter...giving her her own show was a ludicrous idea in the first place, then turning her character into a flimsy, giddy, version of the character she was on greys is insult to injury....at least she had a sack on greys.... but back to bionic woman, wasnt the running scene awesome
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"...from getting into the wrong hands. That's why I decided to let you go earlier. See...I may be a brilliant scientist slash surgeon, but I just don't think logically. It's a character flaw." *shrug*Sheesh.
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...is the name of a Trailer Park Boys episode.
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Mann and Machine was hot! Yancy Butler as a robot cop. You can't that top that. Back off or i'll sick on you the hasslehoff!
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The person who invented people jumping around using wires should be executed immediately. The Matrix did it bad, this show does it bad, wire work is stupid, don't fuckin' do it.
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I have to say I actually prefer the original to this. This hit every bit of a tired post-modern remake, right down to the scenes in the rain, the shaky camerawork and "lost-in-the-tussle" fight staging, and the chick-rock musical beats and motifs. Really wasn't that inspired. But Sackhoff truly is a delight. She's really proving to be someone to keep around for a long while.
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if they show doesn't get us to care about Jamie and if there is no consistency with the writing. *Spoilers* when the scientists meet and tell of Jamie's loyalty to her sister and how smart she is, but then we watch several scenes implying that Jamie didn't want to survive the accident one does see the inconsistency.
And Jamie's attitude and approach to the Big Boss-Man at the end, should have ended with her getting the old bullit in the brain-pan.
Folks if they started another "Jamie Summers" next week this miscast wouldn't be missed.
The other actors didn't have anything to work with, you would keep waiting for a little more but the writing leaves you hanging but not in a good tense sort of hanging.
Yes, Sackhoff was really good. And I hope this role prevents any "Battlestar" type-casting. However she is moving from one military scifi role to another.
The supermax escape was dumb to say the least, very tired and cliched. The theory they can't stop Jamie is crap. It's called a taser, and besides temporarily shortening out her nervous system, it would fry her new bionic (electric, the hardwire is shown) implants. Not the crappy police tasers, I'm talking the heavy military grade stuff that most people don't hear about. The ones they use to shorten out EMP hardened equipment and vehicles when they want a target intact. -
no matter how well the wire is erased. they can't erase the dangling effect on the body. it has a hanging effect.
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looks like an elder Olsen twin mixed with Claire Daines and Jack Nicholson Joker's mouth. Failed to see how she was more compelling than Bionicle Jekyll Dark Angel Party-of-Five-homelife Woman.
Ryan would probably come across more natural if they let her speak in her own dialect.
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Did I miss something? In the original shows, bionic meant cyborg. Man and machine put together in one body. Body parts made out of plastic, rubber, steel, etc. All under the control of a human brain. If you damage bionic parts you will get torn rubber skin and arcing electronic parts. Not blood. This new bionic woman has been created by nanotechnology. It looks like the nanobots have regenerated her body parts on a genetic level. Using her DNA to "clone" these new parts and also improve them for strength. When she cut her hand it bled. When she was running they showed her leg muscles getting stronger "inside" her leg. Sarah said the nanobots repair the entire body. Allowing her to smoke without any health concerns about cancer or lung disease. This show seems more like a female Jake 2.0 than a bionic woman. Here's a thought. If the nanobots take care of the whole body, why do they only strengthen the parts that were missing? Eh?
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He interfears alot in the edit room on BSG, and what he does has to be fixed by Moore, so you see the quality drop on this show.
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that's all. See you next week.
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On Kimmel she was saying that in High school, since Sackhoff rhymes with "jackoff" her brother was called "spank", she was "baby spank", and their mother was "momma spank" She does have a great personality.
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Is if Sarah and Jaime's character arcs have them gradually switch roles, have Sarah gradually redeem herself and regain her sanity while Jaime gradually succumbs to the corruption of power. So by next season, when Katie is available full time, she can be the show's frontrunner.
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What the fuck are they thinking by airing this at 9PM on network television?
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But I think it would actually be quite a cool thing if they swapped the characters. Did a mind fuck on the audience, turned the new Bionic Woman bad, and turned the old one good, swapping thet lead. That would rock, that would really fucking rock, and be a massive first, talk about TALK BACkS. Otherwise, we have this hottie on the show, and by the way, Katie Sack is just incredibly sexy for some reason. The appeal pours out of her in hot wavee. Dunno what else it could be.. The show has potential, big time, especially against a really, and i mean REALLY piss poor Private Practice.
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OK, I hate to put this down. I watched it because a friend of mine was doing the visual effects. The edits and handheld camera work are like memory sticks that were dropped on the editing floor. This shot sped up, then fast shake, then 6 frame bleach to white, then edit to more hand held sped up crap. All digitally graded so even the pick-up shots match.
Bleh.
I told my friend to start looking for work on a new series, this won't last long. Hope it at least survives the initial 13 run order, so he can have a few paid months of work before reschedules a new series.
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Am I the only one who thinks Sackhoff looks like a man? I dont know what that says about all of you guys for thinking she is so hot. Ryan on the other hand, wow she is a fucking goddess.
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Good point. She is more Transhuman than Bionic.
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Agree I do
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It's interesting you know so many details on how this fictional technology works. I would think if you were creating a supersoldier, and the use of non-lethal weapons like tasers were becoming widespread, the bionic soldier would have some kind of resistance to it. As for Jaime's preferring to have died, isn't it possible for a character to have some mixed feelings about things? Yes, maybe if given the option to choose to live with the technology she would have, but she wakes up and finds tiny robots crawling around inside her body. I think some freaking out is in order.
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why all the hate people? ryan needs a better script, get some buffy alumni there stat. i was looking forward to seeing all the new doctors on house, its back, and boston legal, with its ever rotating staff.. no mentioned of what happened to rene. shame on you!
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I suppose you could argue Evil Bionic Woman is just sort of enamored with another Bionic woman to bond with, but there's definitely a lesbian vibe going on, at least with Katee's character. That scene in the bar looked like she was trying to pick her up. Of course, Hollywood seems to like to make evil women lesbians like they're all "bad girls" or something. Perhaps it's a little bigoted, but it does lead to a schwing or two.
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was hooky
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"Instead of bionics say that she was like Jango Fett. Her clones were created from a main host. Some were good, and some were bad, but they're all hidden."
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The show has potential. The pilot was a little rushed. They tried to put too much in there and it probably should have been more than an hour. Michelle Ryan wasn't that bad. Her character is an average, boring chick though. So I wasn't really expecting much from this first episode. But Katee Sackhoff did steal her thunder. Her character is very interesting and I look forward to finding out why she's doing what she is doing.
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Not great, but at least it has potential. Some of the dialog was beyond bad. The editing was real awful - the cuts to commercial were done in the middle of music cues. Ryan showed a tiny bit of potential when she was promising to bury anyone that was sent after her. Katie was awesome. But, NBC shook up the production so I expect we need to wait a few episodes to see what the show is really like.
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Of Sackhoff. I'm sure if she were my next door neighbor, yeah, I'd think she were a cutie. Other than that, she looks average. And yes the dialogue had some hoke to it, but other than that I thought it was entertaining--and Ryan is very very watchable ("guys! my EYES are up HERE"). And WHAT is NOT to like about girl-on-girl fighting?
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Just like nearly every other over-hyped shit show. Journeyman too. LIFE too.
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Sep 27, 2007 9:45:22 AM CDT
Katie Sakoff was excellent. And her character really
by crichtonastronut
does stand out from any baddie I've seen before. she se,ms like a once but very taumitises woman, hiding some inner turmoil that would twist anyones head off. I expect the writers have big plans for her back story. The writing is there Sakoff deliver its promise brilliantly.
Ironically, with all the time Eick and co spend on developing the bad Bionic, we don'tb really seem to be getting a dep look into the main character Jamie Sommers.
We keep getting told she's special but the script seems a little too focused on showing how normal she is with normal problems, propelled into secret gov scary land.
A normal girl, suddenly stuck in a big, very bad world. And that's all well and good but given that Sakoff has been given something so distinctive interesting to chew on.
I can only hope that having had the scared normal girl moments we can see what makes her special, and develop a more disnictve character. I think Ryan has the skills if the script gives her the opportunities.
Saddluy, while Eick does excellent suspence and intruiging plots. Steven Moffat, Ryan's last writer/producer is a bit sharper on dialogue and establishing strong characters, both mains and supporting from the get go, and continuing to develop them from there.
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It's funny that he cited Alexander. I agree with Spyguy in that she screwed up Birds of Prey which should've been easy to make cool. Aside from messing with Black Canary, why exactly was the daughter of Batman and Catwoman a mutant with cat powers?
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Reminded me too much of MUTANT X, CHARLIE'S ANGLES, CLEOPATRA 2525, ANDROMEDA etc. with the phony-baloney leaping and sub-par martial art girl fights. Watching this stuff week to week..no way.
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Plus, she's a woman, so whats the point?
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Here is a definitive forecast from a grizzled old veteran (TV watcher):
Dirty Sexy Money is wildly entertaining - it will not make it past season two.
Bionic Woman is as good as Heroes (and by good I mean bad) - and thus will probably own its hour (until everybody gets past the initial candy coating to realize that the brown soft center aint chocolate).
Private Practice's (unavoidable) failure was put into motion on the day that Rhimes decided to gentrify the Addison character away from her original hot east-coast trampy roots.
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OK, Jamie's like, waht, 24 or something? And her daughter (it is her daughter, right?) is like 14?
So did she have a kid when she was 10?
The music was waaaaay over the top, but it has potential.
AND LOOK! IT'S THE CHIEF! AND ROMO!
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yeah the dialogue was pretty cheesy and the directing was choppy, but there were some fun moments, some neat special effects (like when she ran for the first time), a couple of good fight scenes and yes, Katee Starbot rocked it.
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It's called Science Fiction. In order for it to be plausible it needs to have some type conection to reality. Besides tasers work on the human body and short out electronic devices. It's interesting that in the world today you are not aware of non-ficitonal technology.
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Sister. No age discrepancy there.
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who couldn't fucking stand this show at all from the moment they started playing theater ads for it? Nothing about it looks good AT ALL. Turning into a cyborg doesn't reflect the struggle of the modern woman, fuck you! I really hope this piece of crap gets canceled immediately.
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but not as funny
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Don't get yer Sci-fi blood pumpin then yer an idiot!!! That whole..."We do it on my terms....send who you want and i'll kill em' all....i know what im capable of now"...Awesome!!!!
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... and here's why. Lindsey Wagner is exponentially hawter than the two skanks on the "reimagining" put together.
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I may be one of the few people/females on this site who watched the original show when it was in syndication when I was growing up. This piece of tripe has nothing that made the first Bionic Woman a huge favorite for me when I was growing up. I am so pissed off! I should have expected it, but I thought for sure BSG folks would put their heads into it. So many things went wrong, but the ones that haven't been mentioned are the fine details of the relationship of the bionics to the character. That was what I loved about the old show.
Jaime Summers didn't just pop off the bed for the first time and strut over to a window and say "Boo". ARGHHH! Before that I was cringing so hard, just praying that Ryan's Jaime wouldn't do such a pathetically predictable thing. But she did and more stomach turning, groan inducing moments of heinous dialogue and predicatable behavior would follow. Hello, seen Catwoman? seen any uber chick movie lately like in the past 10 years? well, you've seen this year's BW.
Where is the Jaime that has to learn how to even fucking move!? The Jaime that has to learn how to walk using artificial legs for the first time. Where's the Jaime that can't hold onto anything without it exploding in her bionic hand? How many glasses and cartons of milk did Wagner's Jaime go through until she had some idea of how to control it. AND she never became a perfect master over the bionics. There was always the occasionally bent door handle or broken thing-a-majig that just popped in her hand. Her emotions would often affect her control.
Furthermore, when I tune in to see a bionic woman, I want to see A BIONIC woman not some freaking cyborg! I guess I can kiss off any cool scenes where Jaime is stuck in some silo she fell down and is having to talk to Oscar over a 2 way radio and has to peel back her skin while Oscar talks her through some 'this may not work' jerry-rigged self repair.
Don't get me started on the lack of a decent Oscar character. Evil controlling corporation instead. Wow, that is so fresh, so new. Dear writers, the 1980's called and they want their plot devices back.
Will we get to see Jaime try to explain to an onlooker why she didn't notice that her foot was on fire!? 'Cause those are fake legs! She can't feel! Not just forking away the first night she gets home. First BW: No pain, no feeling of anykind. And she really hates that! Just another reminder that she is separate parts, but that she is cool with those parts because it sure as hell beats the alternative!
No whinny "Why!? why me?! Come closer so I can crush you now with my awesome super strength." 5-minute fiance should have said, I put the legs on you and I can take them off. Your call, bee-otch. Oh and unfortunately, we also had to amputate your personality and are still working on it. We are working with Microsoft for a patch for it before we upload it back. But since it was so freaking small in the first place, we are having more problems than expected.
Where is the sense of adventure, the joie de vivre? Wagner's Jaime was fun. She had a self-deprecating sense of humor. She was always making off the cuff remarks to herself. Not hard to write this stuff. Some vulnerability would have been a good choice too. Invincibility is so freaking boring. Basic knowledge BW people, every fanboy and girl knows this shit.
I could go on and on. But I feel a little bit better venting some of it. Probably much more than anyone wanted to read. But damn, I am so truly and thoroughly disappointed that I wish I "had a time bomb, but, oh, one would need time to use a time bomb"(followed by Evil Snicker by Irish actor who is the same age as the guy who is playing his son) WTF!
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...for TV IMHO (unless she's doing well written BSG scripts, of course - but that's another story).She should just leave TV and just do movies. I see her career having a Johnny Depp-like trajectory (i.e. 21 JUMP Street to movies--to Blockbuster movies)
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Right after she beat up the mugger in one of the most hackneyed scenes in recent TV history, somehow gaining mastery of martial arts along with her bionic legs and arm, I looked at my wife, said "this show sucks," hit dash twice, and moved on. No sale. Of course, it'll probably be a huge hit...
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