Sept. 24, 2007, 4:18 a.m. CST
Not looking forward to the next one
Sept. 24, 2007, 4:19 a.m. CST
Dark crystall-y American Werewolf-y.....color me unexcited.
Sept. 24, 2007, 4:26 a.m. CST
by Mullah Omar
I'm sure I saw that in the Rijksmuseum.
Sept. 24, 2007, 4:27 a.m. CST
Dunno about the movies but that art is very cool. I didn't mind the first film. Hope the 2nd is good too. I'm just wondering who they are gonna get to direct the next films
Sept. 24, 2007, 4:32 a.m. CST
At least in comparrison to LORD OF THE RINGS. You could see them straining to make the film more epic than the story actually was.
Sept. 24, 2007, 4:33 a.m. CST
OK, i like fauns.
Sept. 24, 2007, 5:14 a.m. CST
I enjoyed the first Narnia for what it was. Didnt care too much for the pedophiliac goat man and the little brother "dying" at the end-his acting was a little annoying. But other than that, the creatures were too bright. I'm glad to see they're taking a darker tone ala "Labrynth" style.
Sept. 24, 2007, 5:17 a.m. CST
...but much thinner, and less specs.
Sept. 24, 2007, 6:01 a.m. CST
Looking forward to hearing more about it.
Sept. 24, 2007, 6:01 a.m. CST
Is Santa Claus dishing out the war gear in this one,too?
Sept. 24, 2007, 6:05 a.m. CST
Sept. 24, 2007, 6:20 a.m. CST
by The Duke Of Madness
So Clive Lewis wrote these books as a whole sort of Chris analogy. If Catholic School was as interesting as this and all those 80s teen softcore flicks made it out to be then I would have gone more often. Fact is, Catholic school was just like The Chocolate War. And I didn't have John Glover around to chew the scenery.
Sept. 24, 2007, 6:40 a.m. CST
It wasn't exactly bad, but it didn't have the impact it needed. I'm hoping they do a better job on the second. Maybe my expectations were too high after Peter Jackson's Ring trilogy.
Sept. 24, 2007, 7:05 a.m. CST
It was too bright, too clean and too... heartless. All the elements were in place, but it ultimately lacked heart. If you look at something like THE LORD OF THE RINGS (an obvious comparison, but it fits), the films were not completely faithful to the novel, but what Peter Jackson and his writers did was manage to capture the heart of Tolkien’s story within their own interpretation of the events. I hope Andrew Adamson is striving to make this next film better. Darker is the first step in the right direction.
Sept. 24, 2007, 7:32 a.m. CST
The Magician's Nephew. Directed by either Gilliam, Alan Parker or Jodorowsky (I'm sure that's mispelled). Any of which I'd hope would direct with a head full of LSD. That'd get my $12. Anything else and I'll download it.
Sept. 24, 2007, 7:36 a.m. CST
by D o o d
HOWEVER, I'm not falling for watching a Narnia film again. That first one absolutely terrible. Those beautiful designs by Aaron Simms will just be put in a boring film.
Sept. 24, 2007, 7:49 a.m. CST
But I like what I hear about Caspian being darker. I'm not familiar with the books beyond Lion Witch Wardrobe but those creatures look beast.
Sept. 24, 2007, 9:26 a.m. CST
there I said it.
Sept. 24, 2007, 9:49 a.m. CST
Sept. 24, 2007, 9:55 a.m. CST
um, color me un-unexcited. That's a pretty cool combo actually. I totally agree the first film got most things right but lacked heart. When Aslan resurrected, I should have felt something like I did when I was a kid and watched the cartoon. But it was lacking. I'm looking forward to a more mature Narnia.
Sept. 24, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST
i liked the first narnia very much, because it was quite faithful to the book. i hope they continue that. fwiw, i'm a HUGE tolkien fan, and those movies are now my 2nd favorite trilogy (behind, well, you can guess...). i'm excited about caspian, but i can't wait until they hit the magician's nephew. bring on psycho queen jazra, bringing the smack-down to london town!
Sept. 24, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST
by Omar B
Didnt love the first one but I did watch it and was mildly entertained by it. But then I was never a fan of the books and all it's religious undertones.
Sept. 24, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST
by Monkey Butler
Unless it's as a prologue to The Last Battle, which, come to think of it, we'll probably never see either. I'd say that like the dodgy BBC series from the 90s they'll just shoot the four Pevensie films and try to pretend that the thinly veiled racism and turgid Christian imagery of the other three stories doesn't exist.
Sept. 24, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST
will ultimately fail b/c they refuse to admit that the chronicles is an allegory for the christian beliefs that Lewis is known for....He wrote it to introduce children to the idea of a magical universe.....so that the Bible is easier to swallow...
Sept. 24, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST
s'looking promising this
Sept. 24, 2007, 11:40 a.m. CST
Explain to me: Why there a 17th century egyptian chariots at the bottom of the red sea, with their wheels broken as stated in bible. There's a big ark with a visitors center created by the turkish govt right where the bible said it settled, and with exact cubic measurements as in the bible. Approx two football fields wide. The missing link is still missing. Why at the locations of Sodom and Gomorrah there's millions of sulfuric balls that burned the city up. Where'd these balls come from? Explain that 95 percent of biblical prophesy has already come true. Got news for all of you. Jesus Christ is real. I used to be a swear mongering god blasphemous man like yourselves. Then I called out to god and he answered in a big way. Research evolution folks, it's so flawed its sad. You will all have to face god some day and if you don't have jesus christ in your life, your going to hell. Jesus loves you and doesn't want to see you perish, put away doubt, pride, and humble yourself for a few minutes. You only get one shot at this folks, and time is running out. (by the way, please don't judge my user name, i noticed that people try to attack anything to deny god's existance) Also remember, that satanism is about worshiping yourself. What you might find interesting (if you would read the bible) is that every aspect of our society is 180 degree s from gods word. From Vanity to self-help to pleasure. REPENT and TRUST IN JESUS, and if it's authentic I can promise you a whirlwind of change in your life. So much that you'll preach on blogs like this.
Sept. 24, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST
by Yotz Von Frelnik
I scrolled down and somehow lumped ol' Mori in with the images. He should be a Narnia character. :)
Sept. 24, 2007, 11:57 a.m. CST
First, pretentiousboy, I do hope your name is the indicator that you are trolling, since pretty much everything you said is rubbish.<BR><BR>As for the story, I am not clear what Moriarty means by Narnia being "older". This story takes place something like 1300 years AFTER the last one. It is certainly a less noble Narnia than the first. Personally they don't look much like anything I remember reading, but they do look like someone is trying to be darker, which is not necessarily a bad thing.
Sept. 24, 2007, 12:07 p.m. CST
While Pretentiousboy is annoying, your quick comments are no less inaccurate. First, Lewis did not write allegory. He addresses this many times. He coined his own awkward term, 'supposal'. As in "Suppose there was a magical world with talking animals, and God sent his son to redeem it. What would that be like?"<BR><BR>It is not true allegory. It is just the fact that Lewis, like others in the "Inklings" (like Tolkien), liked writing fantasy. In his case he also wanted to incorporate more of his religious beliefs and write some fantasy that explored what it would be like to apply the Christian mythos to fantasy elements. He was not trying to "prepare young minds" for anything.<BR><BR>He is no more trying to prep young minds for religion than Pullman is currently trying to prep young minds for atheism. Both authors are just writing to tell the stories they want to tell.
Sept. 24, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST
You're bang on target, DreadPirateBob. Narnia isn't a strict allegory. The concept of sacrifice in the place of another isn't solely a Christian idea, is it? Prometheus being the obvious exception. That said, I think you're right, broken tusk, that the reason the first one didn't feel as potent as LotR, was that they tried to downplay some of the clearer analogies and derivatives, as well as some of the lines, that seemed too Christian. They shied away from the true heart of the novel, and so the movie lacked punch. I'm a Christian and a Narnia fan, and the first one wasn't really compelling or moving. Hopefully the second will do better; the key element is the analogy one of the kids draws to Arthur returning to England after 1200 years. That's the important aspect to emphasize. <p> Pretentiousboy, don't try to use only reason to bring people to the Lord. Read I Cor. 1 & 2.
Sept. 24, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
Seriously, I thought THCON:TLWW was a borderline great movie, but the CGI creatures just took me out of it (save for Aslan, of course). Keep it real, keep it concrete, and you've got a great movie on your hands.
Sept. 24, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST
Your point, DreadPR, about Pullman and Lewis isn't entirely correct. Everybody is influenced by their own beliefs when writing and creating art. Lewis was influenced by his faith, and Pullman was influenced by his antipathy toward God and Christianity. And that is a charitable read of his novels, since the attacks are so overt it's stretching credulity to the limit to say that he wasn't purposefully damning Christianity.
Sept. 24, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST
Take your fairy tales elsewhere man...fucking weirdo
Sept. 24, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST
Look you can rip into me all you want, I'm just giving you all a heads up. Remember this, I was once like you guys. I would post the SAME responses as you did, I'm saying this with all humility. Jesus Christ loves you all. God is real. Society has made these statements out of style or "I've heard that before", but I cannot begin to tell you how much I'm asking for you ALL to humble yourself.
Sept. 24, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST
Perhaps I was not clear. I don't think Lewis' beliefs didn't influence him. I just don't think he was using the stories to ease kids into Christianity as Lorando claimed. He was drawing upon and influenced by his beliefs. But he was not prostheletizing.<BR><BR>Similarly, I believe Pullman's atheism influenced his work (too much so by the third book to the detriment of the story in my opinion), but I don't think he is actively trying to convert kids to atheism.
Sept. 24, 2007, 5:47 p.m. CST
I am ashamed to call myself a Christian when I see how such Christians as you treat yourself as better than anyone that is not a christian when I tell that God sees you as no better than anyone else on this planet - the ONLY difference is that you have accepted his offered gift. Remember that Christ preached love over attack and defense. I also just want to say I'm looking forward to this movie as it is and "older" Narnia than the 1st movie so it'll be less bright and a little closer to a "realistic" looking fantasy than it's predecessor(sp?). And for those that rip on C.S. Lewis for writing an allegory - he didn't intentionally do it - you can't write and avoid including parts of your own beliefs in there, it happens even if it's subconciously(sp?). If you read Tolkien's work really carefully you'll find "Christian" references in his work as well(i.e. the ENTIRE beginning of the Silmarillion). That's just my $0.02, carry on all.
Sept. 24, 2007, 6:08 p.m. CST
by Monkey Butler
There are only so many ways you can tell a Creation story with a single Creator, and I'd say Tolkien's singing angels aped Milton's Paradise Lost (in the rebellion of Melchor) more than it did the Bible. Now, Lewis' Creation story is a little more literal - a girl touches something she's been told not to and unleashes Original Sin. Allegory or not, the more overtly Christian elements of the books are old-fashioned and awkward (everything involving Tash), and so dealing with them will be problematic. The first film got it wrong by avoiding it completely, but including it wouldn't have helped either. <p> And I'm a little shocked that people still actually believe that Noah's Ark existed, or that it could have been only two football fields in length. The logistics of rounding up two of every single animal in the world, including animals that only exist in Australia or South America, and then keeping every single one of them alive for 40 days is just ridiculous. I'd also like to see some evidence of this so-called visitor's centre too.
Sept. 24, 2007, 7 p.m. CST
by Sir Loin
Seriously. What/who made goats evil in the fantasy genre? And please don't tell me that it resembles the satanic pentagram thingy which looks like a goat head. Not evil enough to make goat bretheren the bad guys. Serpents, that's a different story.
Sept. 24, 2007, 7:37 p.m. CST
by United States
. . . the last one, with the walking stick and furry slippers. Oh, wait . . . that's Moriarty. Nevermind. The rest look good, too!
Sept. 24, 2007, 7:42 p.m. CST
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader is a book that I think will make for a better adaptation to the big screen than the first two books in the series. That said, I'll definately go see this one as well. I'm curious to see if the creators are going to go the Harry Potter route and make the movies become progressively darker as the series goes on.
Sept. 24, 2007, 8:31 p.m. CST
by Billy Goat
I think it comes from the Bible: Christians are referred to as sheep, and the salvation/rapture/whatever will "separate the sheep from the goats." Which doesn't necessarily make them evil per se, except in the eyes of people who think "not-my-religion" equals "deserves to burn in hell".
Sept. 25, 2007, 2:13 a.m. CST
early Christians demonized the horned gods of the polytheists in Europe (such as Pan, Faunus, Cernunnos, Herne the Hunter, etc.) by associating them with their devil (though the CGI creature looks more like Eliphas Levi's depiction of Baphomet).
Sept. 25, 2007, 5:16 a.m. CST
Is the 2nd one still a Jesus movie? Will it be marketed to church goers? Will I be able to ogle at the hot young princesses without feeling guilty?
Sept. 25, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST
And I used to be like YOU...then I woke up....I'm just saying this isn't the place to post your wacky views..go to church or something
Sept. 25, 2007, 9:40 a.m. CST
now I can quietly sit around and wait for some dead guy to..come back to life...then wisk me off, so we can live happily ever after, together forever amen. I think not
Sept. 25, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST
The fourth book was fun, but watching grown men try to get into this like Lord of the Rings is a sadness bowl in a failure pile.
Sept. 25, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST
This is coming from an Atheist by the way. No one has said any of those things never exited. Historians and myself believe Jesus fucking Christ existed. You are an idiot if you say he never did or Moses or any of them. It is just that Jesus was the greatest con artist that has ever walked the earth. The truth got stretched. The people who actually sat down and put the bible together were MEN with an agenda and we all know how fucking skewed things get when there is an agenda. People twist the facts to there need. Oh by the way I was a born again for a few years. I read the bible; I have sat through the bullshit creationism stuff. Creationists twist and skew the facts to their need saying there are holes in the facts about Evolution. But if you really look into it there are none. Oh who cares I hate this fucking site anyways. Just a bunch of pretentious assholes.
Sept. 25, 2007, 9:01 p.m. CST
These images look amazing. I only read Wardrobe, but I have to see this- Very moody