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AICN Games: Quint plays through the HALO 3 campaign!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here.
I’m a hardcore Halo fan. I was a late-comer to X-Box, mostly because I’m not a fan of Microsoft. I’m writing this on a Mac, which is my platform of choice after suffering through Windows XP for 2 years and 95 and 98 before that.
I rented an X-Box one year during a particularly bad winter storm and decided to play Halo. After playing the campaign straight through twice over I was sold. I bought an X-Box the next month and had some amazing LAN multiplayer parties pre-XBL.
Last week I got a call from a friend of mine who was lucky enough to be up in Seattle playing through Halo 3 at Bungie. He apparently talked to the guys at Bungie about me coming up there to play the game early and write about if for you good folks and they were all on board.
I got that call at midnight Monday night/Tuesday morning and my plane for Seattle left at 2pm that afternoon. So, I packed three Y: THE LAST MAN TBPs, charged up my iPod and caught a few hours of sleep before heading up north.
Let’s start at Bungie. I arrived early Wednesday morning to a nondescript building in Redwood. For security reasons they don’t make a big deal of who they are, but there’s a big hint in their address. I’ve heard they even had to petition the city to get a change of address as the number doesn’t fit in with the rest of the area. I won’t say what it is, but maybe they feel a little guilty taking this address.
After getting buzzed in by security, my co-op partner in crime, Burnie Burns (of Red Vs. Blue notoriety) and I were shown into a small room with a printed-out picture of Master Chief on the door.
If you haven’t watched any RvB you really should. It’s pretty damn funny stuff. Check out their website here.
The room that was to be our base of operations for the next 10 hours was a fairly typical tech office conference room except that in each of the four corners was a small shelf holding a flat panel TV connected to a 360 and a set of 5.1 stereo headphones.
We came prepared with 12 packs of Halo 3 Mountain Dew (we called it “Game Fuel”) and our X-Box Live profiles saved on memory cards and it wasn’t long before CJ Cowan showed up with a pair of burned check discs for us to load up.
If you were disappointed with the HALO 2 campaign and have any worries about HALO 3 following suit, I am here to tell you that those fears will not be fulfilled.
The campaign is a sequel in tone, spirit and pacing to the very first HALO. It doesn’t repeat the first campaign, but there is definitely a similarity in the levels. Sometimes it’s slight, sometimes it was a direct throwback (there’s a level that feels a bit like the Pillar of Autumn opening, there’s another that feels like a prominent Halo Ring level, etc).
I knew from the Beta run-through that I liked the gameplay more than Halo 2. I felt more in control of Master Chief than I did in Halo 2. I never really got ahold on the dual wielding, never got really good at it and while you can dual wield in Halo 3 the variety of weapons you can use mean that it’s not really necessary.
That brings me to the weapons. I’m getting much better at the carbine, which is good because the mid to long range weapons rule Halo 3’s gameplay. There are even flood now that you have to take out with long range weapons.
However, there’s a new power weapon that I really fuckin’ loved. I never could master the sword, but now there’s the Brute Chieftan Hammer. Holy crap are the Chieftans hard to kill, but it’s so fun to take out a room full of brutes with that power hammer.
The graphics are great, too. The landscapes are massive and incredibly detailed. It’s not as stylistic as something like Bioshock, but if it had been it wouldn’t have felt like Halo. Here you get a look at future African landscape, war-torn and under invasion and then a little later on you get more traditional alien levels.
I played through the campaign as Mater Chief and Burnie was the Arbiter, but I don’t think the game forces you to play Arbiter like they did in the Halo 2 campaign.
There are sniper levels, there are heavy weapons levels, there are tank levels and there are race against time levels.
I know I’m being a bit vague, but there’s no point this close to release to spoil the big twists or imagery from the game. I mean, shit… most of you have it preordered and will be picking the game up in less than 18 hours. I will say this game has a definitive ending and there are some… permanent… plot points.
I didn’t get a chance to play through the multiplayer, but I caught a short glimpse of Forge (where you build your own maps) and it looked crazy. I also confirmed Infection as a gametype (a version of the grassroots multiplayer type Zombie).
About an hour before we packed it in, a guy came in the room to sign Burnie’s Halo 3 Special Edition Xbox 360. Check out the bad boy below… it looks sharp up close and personal, I gotta say…
I was introduced and his name was Marty… Immediately I thought “You mean Marty O’Donnell?” but I didn’t want to geek out on the guy… “I love your music! It’s amazing, some of the best superhero theme music in the last 10 years!” and then have him go, “Um… No, I’m Marty the programmer…”
Of course, it was Marty O’Donnell, the composer of all the Halo music… I didn’t get a chance to tell him how much I loved his work and compliment his new stuff in Halo 3 (specifically the Ennio Morricone-ish tribute to THE THING during a specifically horrific level), but I did get to shake his hand, so I can’t complain.
After Burnie and I finished the campaign (took a little under 7 hours on Heroic) we ended up going back to rack up some achievements. During the game I picked up a few skulls… these are hidden through the campaign levels… in some really tough as shit places. But when you pick them up you get achievement points and you also get special abilities you can unlock during any replay.
These aren’t good abilities, though. They actually make the game harder. They take away radar, they slow or stop shield regeneration, they make you slower, make your opponents stronger, etc.
What you can do is replay any level and try to build up points. You get achievements if you reach a point minimum. You build points by killing bad guys (headshots count for more) and destroying vehicles. You get multipliers for beating it in a certain time, on a certain difficulty setting and having these skulls turned on. The more skulls you have turned on, the harder the difficulty level, the quicker you reach the level’s end, the higher the multipliers are.
There are also some fun skulls that don’t really detract… we played with skulls that take away radar, makes your opponents stronger and then we had one that made it so when you scored a headshot on a grunt, the head exploded in confetti and you got a chorus of people going “Yay!!!” Seriously. I giggled like a damn schoolgirl every single time I did that… and I did that a lot… for a couple of hours. It never got old. I think that will probably be my single favorite thing about Halo 3. It just gets me.
So, they’ve made the replay value even higher with these things and you can also watch and save every level you play. And this is pretty damn cool.
We tested this with our first level and it was mind-blowing. This level was almost 30 minutes long and it was only a 3.8 meg file. What’s sweet about it is you can switch views, watch yourself run through the map, pause and take a snapshot which you can save, move the camera around anywhere you want and even zip ahead into the map so you watch what the bad guys are doing for a few minutes before you show up and ruin their day. How sweet is that?
I’m told you can also do this to fully explore the maps and use the camera to zoom anywhere you want to find skulls.
That was essentially my experience at Bungie. I got to see maybe 40 minutes of Washington state during daytime hours because I took a flight back that very night in order to make it home in time for Fantastic Fest.
I’m a Halo fanboy, so it’s no surprise I loved it. I have a Legendary Edition pre-ordered at Gamestop and I’ll be there Monday night picking it up. I enjoyed the hell out of it and I didn’t even get to explore the multiplayer, which was the strongest thing about Halo 2.
There’s never a Halo talkback that isn’t filled with pissed off video gamers. We know it’s popular, we know it’s not special because the masses like it… I’m sure Half-Life 2 was waaayyyy better to you, but just keep in mind that there are people that genuinely love this series. It’s for those people that I wrote this. I want to share in the excitement of the pre-release.
I hope everybody digs it, but I will say that if you don’t like the world of Halo or the gameplay this one won’t change your mind. If you were like me and disappointed with the last Halo game’s campaign, then prepare to be happy. Things are back to normal on that front and if the online multiplayer Beta was anything to go by the Multiplayer will kick all sorts of ass, too.
Thanks a lot to Burnie Burns for making all this possible and thanks to the good folks I met at Bungie… specifically CJ Cowan, Luke Smith, Brian Jarrard and Marty O’Donnell. It was a pleasure meeting you folks. Thanks for letting me come up and play.
Now that I’ve passed the big gallstone, I can finally refocus on my Fantastic Fest coverage and start popping out the smaller ones. I’ve seen some really good flicks in the last few days and the next few promises to bring even more goodies. Be back soon… and I’ll see some of you folks on XBL!
-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com
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I always loved the MARATHON series.
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If you dont own a 360 , get one now..........or its your loss
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Because storywise MARATHON was more interesting than HALO. MARATHON was heaviers on typical sci fi themes, e.g. self aware comupters, the end of the universe. And I always loved the - only superficial - philosophical ideas that found their way into the MARATHON series. Of course, to the modern eye the 14 years old graphics look like shit.
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Halo is fun and all, but I'm sick of the hype. And for what it's worth, the Xbox doesn't have a hyphen in it.
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Whatever happened to the Tokyo Game Show coverage I sent you Quint? I know I'm a shitty writer but sheesh! You didn't have to rub it in!
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Half-life2, Far Cry, Bioshock, the PC release of Gears of War. PC games just offer better gameplay, better stories, better visuals. When Crysis comes out - methinks all console gamers will bow down and pay homage. Of course - at least console games don't typically require 2,000 dollars of hardware and 4 patches and driver updates before they are playable.......And you can't download porn in the bacgroun while you play a console....6 of one - half dozen of the other :)
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In my Tokyo Game show coverage, I talked a bit about CRYSIS. Actually got to play it. Funny thing is, it was featured at the 360 booth and had a 360 gamepad playable along w/ keyboard. Methinks it's coming to console fairly quick.
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Regardless of being a Halo fan or not, I have a feeling that the third one may not meet expectations.Halo has always been this great "Epic" which has always been hyped from the start And speaking of hype:as much as I liked Bioshock,it came and practically went. After completing the game there's nothing really left except a altered ending. As for HALO 3, the graphics aren't up to par for a next gen console.The editor option sounds cool but I'll have to reserve judgement until I get my hands on the game sometime this week.However after the masterpiece that was GOW,(the new mother-fucker of all shooters) it's gonna be a tough hill to climb.
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I think Ludicris said it best: "Blow it out yo ass!"
You have no idea what your talking about. I just saw HALO 3 in action 2 days ago at Tokyo Game show and the graphics were amazing. I also participated in the Online Beta w/ the Crackdown pre-order. I know the graphics were not that impressive in the Beta, but it looks really cleaned up now. Totally agree about Bioshock though, Everyone's got a boner for that game but it was the third time that company has made the same game! -
Is it just me or does that make as much sense as a film being in 'monochrome technicolour'?By the time Halo made it to PC, Half-Life and other shooters had rendered it clunky and obsolete, and I never really took to it. A bunch of my mates liked playing it over our LAN when we were students, but I got bored of so completely destroying them all (none of them played many shooters) at such a slow and awkward FPS game. Team Fortress 2 on PC is taking up my time at the moment, until Half-Life 2 Episode 2 comes out.
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The Halo series is great fun, the multi-player is fantastic and whilst it may be very dated now, there was nothing available to non-pc users which was of that high a level of polish and fun.
Retro-cussing it is just assinine. Enjoy it for what it is, a fun and simple game with a decent background story and interesting universe. -
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Oh Quint... come on, man! IT'S ON THE LABEL. *sigh* Back to reading the review.
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good job quint
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And it fucking rules. Rules Hard. I wasn't too keen on Halo 2 campaign but Halo 3 feels alot more like the original version. Oh and bad news to the sony fanboys who cried H3 wouldnt look much better than H2; it totally blows it away graphically.
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Evidently you haven't seen the game properly. The opening sequence in the Jungle is just visually amazing and features most of the high end gfx people expect in their next gen games; HDR lighting, Particles and Lots of geometry. Visually it shares the style of it's predecessors but it takes that look to the next level.
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GameStop called yesterday and said that in order to guarantee I get my pre-ordered copy at midnight, I need to be at the store at 9pm. Yeah, riiight.
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But I'm just not a major fan. It's fun, I enjoy playing them, but I think the problem for me is being a bigger fan of PC online shooters. The giant fucking circle "crosshair" is distracting, I prefer the more precise nature of something like Counter Strike. But that's just me, I can't wait to play this. I may even go out tonight and pick up a copy, we'll see... or I could save the 60 bucks and put it towards an HDTV. One thing's for sure, I have never had more fun playing a game with a group of friends sitting around one tv than I did with Halo's MP.
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only because the storyline is fucking halo 1's story repackaged.
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That comes out too this week you know... In it, you embark on a journey through various arctic environments with this game based on a National Geographic documentary! Why no mention Quint?
By the way, if any of you Halo addicts are looking to play with someone who isn't 13 and doesn't scream into their mike, then look me up. My XBL gamertag is "FLUFFER" (yes, I know, it's awesome).
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suggests a completely different character altogether
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Allow me toreinerate: from what I have seen of Halo 3,I personally didn't find the graphics too apealing as compared to..Gears of War.To be fair I wish to reserve final judgement until I get my copy which I preordered like everyone else. You guys have obviously seen more of the game than me. As a result of H3's release,sales for the 360 went up a notch.Where the hell is Sony's system seller? Killzone and MGS4 won't debut until sometime next year.My symphaties for the Sony fanboys who are still waiting for the killer apps,after shelling out $600 for a black doorstop. *ouch*
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Most of the time we couldn't understand what the hell was happening, so we just kept shooting. The Good: Weapons, graphics, multiplayer, voice acting (most of the time), up to 4 co-op players during campaign - on different boxes! Some good and some bad, but still fun.
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You really can't compare this to Gears. That's one hell of a dark & dingy game and everything in it is in a state of decay. I'm sure that on a technical level, Gears may be slightly better, but I like the bright & vibrant world that Bungie creates. Besides, graphics don't matter much when you've got a solid story and game design. The graphics weren't great on the multiplayer beta (Bungie scaled them down to fit into a downloadable demo) but the game's core mechanics made that beta a goddamned revelation.
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Sep 24, 2007 8:34:54 AM CDT
You guys need to get out more
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
Get out to videogame retal establishments more because if you love this horseshit wait until you play a good game. Is there any website or place of business left that hasn't become just another cog in Microsoft's Hype Machine? Now at 7/11 and AICN, Pre-Order Halo and Harry Potter! Because it's not available anywhere respectable!
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Don't try to sound like such a trendsetter. That's what they call it on right there on the frickin box!!!!
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Sep 24, 2007 8:42:31 AM CDT
"We came prepared with 12 packs of Halo 3 Mountain Dew"
by freddie mercury
"(we called it “Game Fuel”) and our X-Box Live profiles saved on memory cards..." Yeah, you call it what because Mountain Dew calls it that, you shriv. And you brought your XBL profiles on a memory card? Uh, why? You can download your profile to any HDD on any 360 that's connected to the web. I think you're pulling a Harry and trying to get free shit, hence the shriv. Orbitz gum, anyone?
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Anyone who wastes the time and effort of hating on a video game is sad beyond belief. It's a freaking video game, who cares if you don't like it when other people do? Neeeeeeeerds.
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Sep 24, 2007 8:44:52 AM CDT
Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
by rickey henderson
If you're an FPS fan, Halo really does live up to the hype. Sure, the whole 7-11, Mountain Dew thing is tacky, but welcome to the wonderful world of product advertising. Of course Microsoft is going to do a little bit of fanfare for the release of the videogame that finally puts the xbox in the black column. Also, the average age of a gamer is something like 31... Microsoft is trying to go back and bag 'em young again. Can't blame them for trying.
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I never thought Halo was worth two squirts from the original incarnation. But i guess to people who dont play PC based games, it would seem really cool. But i have played many FPS type games and this is by far one of the weakest.. crappy controls, ok graphics, repetitive game play, lame maps, etc...
I always played Unreal Tournament (by far the best online multiplayer shooter), quake, team fortress.
When the new unreal tournie comes out, it will mop up Halo 3 in every aspect. Even Crysis is looking very promising when it comes to a lot of things right now.
Halo 3 is for fan boys who arent real FPS people. This is for console geeks who play with their controllers while im fragging the piss out of them with a gaming mouse and keyboard. Lame Game for Lame Gamers. -
I didnt reserve anything im goinng up to BB tonight just to see if I can get one or given one for free!!!!!
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How come MONKI didnt review this???
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I have 1 and 2 and ultimately regretted getting both. Even if I had a 360, I wouldn't make that mistake again.
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Halo's multiplayer is awesome, but who the hell said this will be on the same level as Lord of the Rings or Star Wars if it was turned into a movie, well ..that's just plain nutty. Halo and Gears of War and mostly any other major game which I do love them all by the way are derivative of every other movie and are not original whatsoever... Best Game Concepts for movies that they already screwed up and dropped the ball with were Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter. Silent Hill had some good parts, but still was a dissapointment...The first couple that I mentioned had so much potential :::: sigh::: so sad
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I dont give a damn about the single player. Multi player is the real reason to buy the game. Yeah coop will be cool but the heart of the game is multiplayer!
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i'm so ready for halo 3 tonight. let the stuck up gamers talk smack all they want, nothing i have ever played comes close to the fun i've had with halo and XBL. 14 hours to go!
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Sounds like a blast, Quint. A game like this most certainly gives us our money's worth, along with Xbox Live. It's nice that we don't have much longer to wait for HALO 3. But as to the "HALO" movie, I guess we'll have to be far more patient. And that's unfortunate.
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but I know that's guilty of some of the same things as Halo and Gears of War. They were obvious in the homages and inspirations unlike with the character of Plisken and the eyepatch and everything unlike these other games that the makers themselves call "original" ideas. The MGS storyline went in a different direction which is possible being made into a movie.....A take on Half-Life would be so freaking interesting if done well...They also really screwed up with Final Fantasy, man ,now that had everything going for it story wise. Another let down.
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Something about disagreements between Jackson and the studio heads. There was a lack of confidence on the studios' part. So they dropped it.
right now, Blomkamp and WETA and Bungie are working to rebuild confidence with those live action shorts that we have recently seen. -
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I am a huge Halo fan. But the way I am approaching the game is not to have my expectations super high and to just enjoy the game. For those PC-trolls, I hope that you enjoy Crysis and the other fabulous games on the computer. Those great games will not detract from the experience that is Halo 3.
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I enjoyed the heck out of the first one, was disappointed by the second one, liked the third one. However, I wish Kojima would stop with this is-love-possible-on-the-battlefield crap. Must every character give a lecture before they die? I hope that MGS4 go back to the action and a more linear story.
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This guy is a plant. I saw him sucking Bill Gates off.
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When does Halo 4 come out?
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product placement
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PCs may provide better graphics than console games, but that's only because you have to upgrade your computer every year, spending as much as you would on a console in the process. Then you have to screw around installing and configuring every game you play. With a console you spend $300-600 on a system every six years and every game is ready to play out of box. So the advantage to PC is that you waste a hell of a lot more time and money for marginally better graphics? BFD.
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I'm sure the multiplayer is fun as always, but let's face it, the story is mediocre at best, epic it's not. This one looks like a retread of the first two with better graphics. I'll be playing this one at a friend's and saving my money for Killzone 2.
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Considering that the first one was utter crap with frame rate issues, I wonder why people are getting revved up for the sequel?
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Comparing the graphics on Halo 3 with say Gears of War is like comparing a Ferarri to Lambourghini; both are absolutely great but of course some people will always have a specific preference. I will say that Gears is a better looking game overall but there are some parts of Halo 3 that look absolutely stunning, the huge water scene on level Installation 00 is superb and like someone before me said, it's a bright, sci-fi environment.That brings me to the PC vs Console debate. What most people who trumpet PC gaming forget is that it takes $2000+ to get a PC thats comparible to the $300 360 or PS3. I know for a fact that Gears of War for PC is going to demand some rediculous set up to even compare to the 360 version.As for saving money for Killzone 2, I hope it's a better game than the original which was stuck on rails and offered players absolutely no real freedom of movement
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The only people getting "revved up" of Killzone 2 are people who've blown stupid money on Sony's White Elephant and are desperate for software that will make owning that expensive paperweight worthwhile. Mine has been boxed now for 8 months and will only see light of day when Gran Turismo 5 comes out.
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It floors me why Halo's single player game is not torn to shreds by critics. MP might be fun for some, but the single player game is about 15 years old.
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I call it "diabietes". So they wouldn't let you drink beer there?
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We at Press Start Online fluked ourselves into the world exclusive online review of Halo 3 by blind luck, due to being able to buy a full retail copy from Argos in the UK due to a foul-up by them last Wednesday, and having no signed NDA to make us part of the reviews embargo, as we only relaunched our site a short time ago after a long hiatus.
Have a look, guys: http://tinyurl.com/2xxb7a
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For those of us who play PC FPS, there just is no competition. Halo is a good game but it is not great in the sense that Half Life, Bioshock, Far Cry, or Call of Duty was great.
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Killzone may have frame rate issues and I concur that it’s a flaw, but Halo 1&2 would too if the action moved at more than a tenth of the speed. Killzone had better graphics and quicker, more intense gameplay than the first two Halos and the Killzone 2 is shaping up to destroy Halo 3 in those two categories. On a subjective level, I like the darker and grittier feel of Killzone over Halo’s colorful, kid friendly environments. That may explain some of the hype over Killzone 2, but let’s face it, the hype machine between these titles is incomparable. Every time a new Halo comes out, people act like it’s the second coming of christ.
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I'm a big UT2004 guy, but that game has been ruined by the amount of cheating going on. Every CTF server I join, someone is botting, netsqueeze, etc. Epic has made no effort to release a patch to block that shit. **********Also, while I prefer the accuracy of keyboard and mouse, there are some players that can pwn with the thumbstick.
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albiet the Halflife port sucked.
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12:01 this morning it's mine. I have a huge case of Monster Energy from Sams Club and I will make my splash Tuesday night until I pass out. Challenge will be not playing it tonight, grrrrr. Took wed off, smart thinking me :)
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"PC games are better no matter what! Halo series sucks no matter what! Half-Life 2 should father my children! If it's popular it must suck because everyone but me is a moron! Waaaaaahhh!!!!" It's a video game people. Play it or don't, and shut up.
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What is it? 343? Some other multiple of 7?
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Cuz I never understood it. Bring on Mass Efect!!!
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1) The campaign was solid 2) The multiplayer made it the Goldeneye of the generation 3) The character rocks. This is not the game to end all games, but it serves as solid entertainment nonetheless...
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C'mon tellme who's your daddy and what does he do? You lack discipline!
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just so I have something to read about on gaming websites this week other than fucking Halo3
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Sep 24, 2007 12:17:34 PM CDT
What? You think it will be different when MGS4 hits?
by rickey henderson
Not a chance Crayon. Sony will pimp that lifeless fucker like crazy.
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Thanks to George Newman (talkbacker, above) for the HALO movie update. However, I gave the wrong impression that I didn't know the current status (unless there's something we don't know, behind closed doors). But hey, ...it has GOT to be obvious to everyone here that there will be a "HALO" movie. It's just a matter of time. And I wouldn't be surprised if we get news REAL SOON of a 2010 release date. (Money on something very ambitious for 2011???) ...Heck, "IRON MAN" (or IRON-MAN) looks like a colorful version of Masterchief, but with far more technological advantages, being the superhero he is. It's not gonna take Hollywood long, at all, to jump all over this franchise. Place your bets.
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and did you show him Eli Roth's HUGE PROSTHETIC WANG? Wang FTW!
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HAHA...I'll have an ounce of what he's smoking please.
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HAHA...I'll have an ounce of what he's smoking please.
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Especially since the MGS4:S will be for Xbox 360 and PS3. Sony needs to get as much mileage out of it while it's still exclusive.
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Nononono... what you need is glasses. HAHA... "TheAllSeeingEye" needs glasses.
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when you can play the game? It's already a cinematic experience that you can interact with. The movie would be at a complete disadvantage unless they overhaul the tripe, derivative storyline, but since they can get all you sheep in the theatre without it, there's no chance of that.
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It's bad enough you think Killzone is the superior game but now you're deluding yourself it actually looks better than Halo or Halo 2? Yes it's pretty, for a PS2 game, but they only managed to squeeze those nice looking textures out by completely removing all the freedom of movement players have come to expect from FPS's to free up memory. You're also forgetting the fact that it was a flop which received a subtle panning from most reviewers; 7.2 on IGN i.e Not a classic. It was an utter failure that Sony only want to push on because the desperately wish to have something to compare to HaloThe BEST FPS on PS2 will always be Criterions amazing shooter, "BLACK". It wipes the floor with Killzone and gives Halo a run for it's money.
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After Halo 3, PGR4 is looking good. Then VF5, Ace Combat 6, Guitar Hero 3 OR Rock Band, Mass Effect, and on and on.... I have to set myself a budget and swap games with my brother....
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Yeah, it's a good game. Everything blows up nice and pretty. Maybe second best FPS on PS2. But I think as far as PS2 shooters go, Timesplitters 2 is the best on the console.
Killzone is nothing special. And I'm proud that nobody even seems to remember Red Faction.
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if it had multiplayer. Any shooter made these days that's strictly one-player is waste of programming. I wanted Black to be so awesome, and it could've been. But alas, I saw "1 Player" and never even bought it.
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You have yet to provide a substantial argument to establish Killzone has inferior graphics. "Yes it's pretty, for a PS2 game, but they only managed to squeeze those nice looking textures out by completely removing all the freedom of movement players have come to expect from FPS's to free up memory." All you’re saying is the programmers sacrificed gameplay for great looking graphics. It doesn’t change the fact that the graphics look better. And what point are you trying to make about its success or failure? I never said it was as popular as Halo, in fact, I stated the opposite. So it got a 7.2 on IGN, that doesn’t make it a flop. In order to determine that you have to look at the sales figures, which were high and the fact that it had the second largest number of online players on the PS2 until Call of Duty 2 came out. Furthermore, if it didn’t do well why did they make a spinoff for the PSP and why are they coming out with a sequel? Stop talking out of your ass.
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Better watch my size
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Since you put all your faith in IGN, the reader reviews (you know, the people who actually buy the game) average an 8.3. Not an average that anyone with a brain cell could consider a flop.
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Bungie told us about this (forget where), but they tried to get 343 as their address but couldn't, so they got 434 instead.
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and then make a big deal about not talking about it? "Oh there's this really cool reference hidden in their address, but it's supersecret, and only true insiders like me should know it. If the rest of you knew, you'd probably go insane and start stabbing babies."
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See the link. Don't know if this is for the live action clip from earlier, or a test mockup for the movie? Thoughts, comments?
http://tinyurl.com/22kwnf
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I also think HL and HL2 proved that a well-thought out solo game can be worthwhile.
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No i don't put any stock into reader reviews since most people are either too harsh or too generous. I'll leave my reviewing to the people at IGN, Gamespot and other sites that actually get paid to play games and rarely let their personal feelings cloud their judgment. I imagine the 8.2 is helped along by people like yourself who are simply desperate to like the game or make it look like it can compare to Halo/Half Life.As for backing up my arguments re: Graphics, i'll let general opinion speak on my behalf but it's worth noting that Killzone is perhaps the single most glitch/bug ridden game ever released to market; you'll see IGN were kind enough to mention graphical tearing and texture errors and collosal slowdown which was confounded by the poor draw distance and near clockwork crashes. That not only makes the graphics shit, but the whole game shit too and the concencus amongst most TB'ers so far seem to back that up.As for it being a flop, well, i didn't see many stores opening at midnight for it like Halo and Half Life, it doesn't have a legion of loving fans and it sold a measley 2 million copies, (meagre for a supposed "Halo Killer" at any rate), which INCLUDES the platinum release. I guess the public spoke with their wallets on that one.
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Killzone was horrid and did nothing in itself to be deserving of hype. What caused the hype was the 06 E3 CGI trailer for the game. Sony tried to pass it off as in-game and consequently there was a short period where journos debated as to the nature of the footage. The 06 E3 footage was decidedly less spectacular with substandard character animations. But people still think of the promise of that CGI quality movie when they think Killzone 2. As such I reserve judgement until the review for that game is out. Who knows? It might be excellent...
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You hear what they did to the energy sword? They balenced it out. If two players attack each other at the same time, they both go flying backwards and lose their shields. Pretty freaking sweet.
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Except that Halo 3 is wholly original, and Sony just wants to try to cash in with a wannabe.
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I'm not a hardcore gamer and I don't play online much. I finished Gears of War and Call of Duty 2 (single player) and really liked them but I have never played Halo or Halo 2. I'm not an Xbox or 360 lover or hater since I have both. Should I jump in cold and give Halo 3 a shot?
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Since Halo 3 is a game, and gaming is all about hacking
Halo 3 Rockes My Socks!
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that would have been much cooler...
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Nevermind the haters. It's a fun game. But if you want to understand the story, I'd start with Halo 1 and work your way up.
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No idea what all that means.as for halo the best part about games is you have choices. I'm from an era where you played EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, be it super mario 2, trojan, rush'n'attack, whatever. you had NO choices and thus couldn't bitch.sure sure you knew sega had a master system but it seemed like a masterful waste of money considering all the good games were on the NES.as for halo 3 it goes back to what I said: you have a choice! no one is forcing you to buy halo 3 and an xbox 360...that you're aware of that is...billy gates has his special ways of making you do what he wants you know...
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how you did that. email me at infitior@gmail.com
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" I'll leave my reviewing to the people at IGN, Gamespot and other sites that actually get paid to play games and rarely let their personal feelings cloud their judgment." -Just because they get paid, doesn't mean they aren’t biased. "I imagine the 8.2 is helped along by people like yourself who are simply desperate to like the game or make it look like it can compare to Halo/Half Life." – No, see that's where you and I differ, I actually played the game and made the decision to buy it. I’m not a Sony verses Microsoft man like you apparently are. I judge games on their merit, not what system they’re on. As I mentioned before, I think Halo's multiplayer is fun, but beyond that, there’s nothing particularly special about it. I just don’t understand people who act like the Halo series is some divine treasure. "you'll see IGN were kind enough to mention graphical tearing and texture errors and collosal slowdown which was confounded by the poor draw distance and near clockwork crashes. That not only makes the graphics shit, but the whole game shit too and the concencus amongst most TB'ers so far seem to back that up." – Consensus huh? You mean, you and Darfur? Idon’t see anyone trying to back you up now so that’s hardly a consensus. You think the Halo games are free of graphical errors? It's clear just by looking at the game, but since you let IGN do your thinking for you I'll just quote what they had to say about the first 2 games: The first: “The game is not invulnerable to severe chopping. Whenever you get multiple vehicles in large areas you're really asking for trouble. Even then you'll only notice unbearable chopping when you get near structures or other intricately modeled areas. In first person however, even with floods of enemies charging in around you, Halo stays rock solid. This is first person shooter remember, not a third person vehicular combat game. “ The Second: While the cutscenes are massive in scope and very pretty in design, oddly, you'll actually see a little slowdown, pop-in, and LOD issues during cutscenes. “ And they mention how both games have noticeable flickering. And if you had actually played Killzone instead of debating about it based on a review you read, you would have realized that the slowdown only occurs when playing online. And what happens in Halo 1&2 when someone drops out of an online game? THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME PAUSES! Not to mention that the online version doesn't even let you customize a game like Killzone does and forces that optimatch bullshit. "As for it being a flop, well, i didn't see many stores opening at midnight for it like Halo and Half Life, it doesn't have a legion of loving fans and it sold a measley 2 million copies, (meagre for a supposed "Halo Killer" at any rate), which INCLUDES the platinum release. I guess the public spoke with their wallets on that one." – Again, you don't know how to substantiate your claims. Just because it didn't sell as well as Halo doesn't make it a flop. At the box office, Titanic made twice what Spider-Man did. Does that make Spider-Man a flop? I never claimed that it sold more copies. I'll refer again to one of my first posts where I stated the hype over Halo far exceeds that of Killzone. For someone with your screen name, your inability to read and comprehend is astounding.
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You're a fool. Killzone is shit, it's a flop and there's certainly more than Darfur who thinks it's crap.And by the way, i never said IGN did my thinking for me, i said they were an opinion i'm happy to take on board but the fact is, and i've already proved this to you, Killzone was poorly recieved and if you think for a fucking minute that Halo was as poorly reviewed as Killzone then you, sir, are retarded.
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To a little flicker as opposed to Killzones repeated crashing, graphics tears and glitches. Face, you're the only person here who thinks its a good game.
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You must be mentally blocking out the positive views on Halo like some deranged fanboi; there's plenty up there.
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I've played Killzone, so yes, i'm entitled to give my opinion on it. It sucks balls.
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Congrats AllSeeingEye, you've proven to us all you are unable to read and comprehend. Quote me where I said Killzone wasn't received poorly by critics or when I said there was nothing positive to say about Halo. You can't because I didn't write them. What's the matter, you tried reading more than two sentences and your wittle brain hurt? TheAllSeeingEye? You should change your name to DeafDumbAndBlind. Should have known not to respond to a downer baby like yourself. All you guys do is chase your tails around in circles.
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MGS conrtol is so bad its like the first Tomb raider.
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Uh no. MGS' controls are nothing like the original Tomb Raider, which was hindered by grid based character movement. The only bad thing controlwise in Metal Gear is the use of three buttons to aim in first person. I've rarely been rude to my fellow talkbackers, but please, take your fanboy bullshit attacks at MGS to Gamefaqs.
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yup, that's gonna be sweet as fuck it'll be just like Errol Flinn yo! Hit me up bud...I'm wonkabeer on XBL...I ain't some some master-player by any means, but, I am a sword-whore! Cheers
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http://halo3ending.ytmnd.com/
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so im a weird FPS fan. in the fact that im not too big on the multiplayer, but i enjoy the single player campaigns. I LOVED half life 2, and bioshock, but never got halo. i was thinking halo 3 would be the one to make me break down and get it.. but if you passed the campaign in 7 hours, it sounds like it just may not be my type of game (nothing against it, i mean i love super smash brothers, its one of my all time favorties, but if someone told me they really just wanted to play the single player, i would tell them that ssb my not be the game for them) so yeah.. you halo fans.. what do you think?
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What's hallow 3 haluso? halogin3? halo3? I don't get it
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Time Square was nuts tonight with Halo3. Sure to make the national news. Adam Sessler almost got into a scuffle hehe. He should have headbutted them with his chromagnum forehead.
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Now that game is a thing of beauty alone. Tight controls. character with weight. heavy weapons that feel powerful. splatter kills. 8 players. so more of an intimate experience. i'm a gears of war guy. i've never liked halo. character feel lite as a feather, too floaty. kills just aren't as satisfying. boring maps and environments. with 16 players. its a mess.
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Seems they put so much effort into the graphics. They had no more room for enemy brains lol
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Best visuals yet on a console, but once its over. it starts to get repetitive both in the visual and sound department. if i hear that vending machine say again, comeback when you have more money comeback when you have more money comeback when you have more money. i'll lose my freakin mind. or come on mr bubbles. come on mr b, ahhh!
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Which is sad, they were scared to stray off to far, scared they'd lose hardcore halo players. they tried to meet the old style and next gen style somewhere in the middle, instead of going all out. aw well.
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If you aren't implying that I'm wrong, what are you arguing for? Are you you fucking stupid enough to be trying to convince everyone that a critically panned, poor selling game is actually good? You're a fucking nutjob. Why are you arguing with me if you're actually agreeing? Dumbass.
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I yelled that from my car at the enormous line after I got my copy. A little kid dressed like a Grunt started crying.
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I really feel i need to comment on this. Killzone is inferior to Halo in every aspect, the graphics, the game play, multi-player (off and online) and, in my opinion, the story. While i will admit the last point is subjective and open to debate the others are fact!
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Halo 1 really didn't feel very special. It was a vanilla shooter, but of very good quality. Half-Life definitely felt like you were doing more than shooting a gun. Well, none of these compare with Deus-Ex...now that was a classic.
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You can find hundreds and hundreds of that on the PC.
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...i don´t play videogames.
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Nerdism at its peak.
As a PC gamer with a heavy leaning toward FPS's, I think I know what the main irksome thing is to us. It's the fact that Halo -- a pedestrian FPS at best -- is getting all the mainstream glory and write-ups dealing with the subgenre when much better games have been on the PC for ages.
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heh.
I enjoy both sex and videogames on a daily basis.
It's not a case of one or the other, unless your missus is a complete bitch.
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Picked up halo 3 at 9am, have just finished playing multiplayer 11 hours later. Fucking wow. I'll check out the single player tomorrow but its already been worth my 90 bucks
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Sorry, but he is. His writing is nothing special, people are just impressed because they give him the budget to hire live players here and there.
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but Halo is awesome. Playing the first Halo game, on the day the original Xbox was released, was near religious. Amazing, I never bothered to finish the campaign mode on Halo 2 until just a couple of weeks ago - I just got a little bored with the repetative levels. I'm looking forward to H3, though. Sounds like it's spectacular. Hopefully there won't be too many overly dark, overly boring flood levels ... because the game shines 1000x more when it's outside and vehicles are involved.
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Hey dude. Was it IGN or maybe Gamespot that had that really interesting article about how Halo's graphics were supposedly "not as good" as other shooters (which seems to be nerd opinion du jour around here)? I should find that again. Basically they did a colour grade in photoshop to dull down the colours and make it the same 'gritty' and 'realistic' (hilarious if you know about colour grading) palette as other shooters and lo and behold, looked awfully equal and all counts. I know how you feel as we've talked about the whole PS3 thing before, but I'm pretty excited that the release lists of games for the rest of the year for ALL 3 consoles are looking amazing (I'm not into the moronic 'exclusive' flag waving bullshit like most here, just want good games no matter what box they're on). Even for the PS3. Lots to choose from! I can't remember if you have the Nintendo as well.
Not that most seem to understand the idea of tone or context around here. I met this guy once who was a gamer and also SW nut (setting the scene, not criticising) who had aged and dirtied up his tie fighter models so they were "badass" and "star warsey". They were the fucking Navy you dolt! The ships weren't brocken, jury-rigged or dirty! I'm sure this guy likes Killzone and Geras graphics and hates on Halo.
Speaking of which, to be fair to Killzone 2's graphics, nice way to stop at 2006 E3 Darfur. Have you seen how much closer the 07 stuff was? But that's just graphics. At least you were fair enough to reserve your judgement until the release. Proof is indeed in the playing.
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I doubt they will do it, as the original is free to download from Bungie's site.
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Looks awesome, plays awesome, end of story. Sorry, haterbitches.
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Double-Oh, soup74, Orionsangels, Freddie Mercury, SantiagoAtez, MandalorianSage, Lord_Soth, CuervoJones, DocPazuzu,
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but that's because I don't have live. When you only get to play the single player, it's not quite as amazing. I still got it though, and it's more enjoyable than Halo 2 so far.
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Camper bitch.
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You may have called it that but that's what's on the label. I normally wouldn't blast you but that's some lameass shit and if I were you, I'd be reaching for the edit button. How stupid and sheltered do you think your readers are? I don't even play Halo or drink "Game Fuel" yet I've seen it on shelves. Did you think you could slip that one past us or something. Nub.
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you're behind the times man. it's way more trendy to attack macs. so you are ahead of the curve and didn't even know it.
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that's really fucking obnoxious... but I suspect I woulda loved it when I was 10.
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n00b 4 life! y'all can suck my game-fuel!
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That's right, he joined Bungie earlier this year... Last year? It was a big hoopla over the because of it.
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I'm floored, because H2 sucked, and halo was only decent compared to its contemporaries (I was into PC shooters at the time). But H3 is definitely the best of the trilogy, well worth a buy.Regardless of fanboy posturing, it is NOT the end-all be-all of FPS gaming, the graphics aren't that mind popping (even if the color palette is, I felt like Hendrix the whole time I was playing)but the game play, replay value, and god lord! the co-op (sweeeeet co-op) easily make it the best in the series, and one of the best "jump-around like you're crazy" (non-tactical) shooters for the consoles
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I barely play videogames anymore because the quality just doesn't match the time investment. After hearing everybody and his brother go on and on about Halo and Halo 2 I played them a few times, quickly became bored and quite. I'm just about finished with videogames if this is the best they have to offer.
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Tis a shame.
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Play BF2!
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Isn't Halo just a Doom/Quake/Half-Life rehash? All those FPSs are essentially the same. Oh well, if I was in my 20s, maybe I'd be hyped about this too.
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I played Halo 1 recently. (Yeah, I'm that slow). I liked the graphics and overall look of the game, the weapons system and the enemy AI. So a great game engine, but the level design was extremely repetitive. There's a dramatic turning point in the game that introduces a new set of bad guys...and that means backtracking through practically all the levels. And all the samey looking arenas.
I prefer Half-Life 2. Although you could argue that the design of the levels feels more "staged", what with the scripted events, I just like that approach, the way the game throws new challenges at you and doesn't get too repetitive.
But Halo/Half-Life/etc. comparisons aside, I'm looking forward to Portal, as I think that'll help push the genre away from being viewed simply as a shoot 'em up.
Rupee88, I disagree that everything that's followed since Doom in the first person genre is a rehash. True, the exceptional games are exactly that - exceptions to all the mediocre stuff - but Deus Ex, for example, has a very different style of play. In fact in that title the style of play is left up to the player. Highly recommended if you haven't played it before - but the graphics have dated quite badly. -
It's just gay.
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It's just gay.
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Am I right? Huh? Am I right?
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why do i need to suck a fat dick? i didnt say anything negative about halo.. i asked the halo fans if i should get it considering i like single player fps more then multiplayer. just looking for some opinons.
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I tried it. It's fucking awful. I mean, I really like Mountain Dew, in general, but this stuff.....wow. Then again, if you think you'd enjoy carbonated cherry NyQuil...by all means, give it a shot.
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No don't argue with me, you can't, lie down and admit it. Awww baby can't hold three buttons? Wish there was an easy button that did all your work? Well, you'll be glad to know MGS4 does that, but in any case I usually suck at playing games, and I can play MGS with no problem... That said MGS4 has been made easy for the rest of you whiners. But God forbid they baby-fy the story so Halo fans can follow along... Too, what was that word detractors like to use? Convoluted? (Translation: I'm really dumb) Well then... STAY THE FUCK AWAY! Don't look, don't speak it's name! You are forbidden!Speaking of Halo, the multiplayer is fun as fuck! I played the first one on PC, got bored of the campaign in the 2-3rd level or whatever... no story to keep me involved... well not a grand one anyway, plus it felt repetitive. But playing that thing online was fun. And a LAN party is even better! Anyway I honestly don't see this pulling MS into the black... even if it did make the shitloads of money they are expecting it to. As for Sony, Killzone 2 does lok awesome, but I only played the first for a little while till I went fuck it, this is just Halo, only worse and shittier controls... But hell I'd give the 2nd one a spin purely for the visuals.And in closing it's always funny to see people talk like they're so sure MGS4 has been confirmed for the 360. Go scope out MGS4's site and the 3D director blurb. They're doing it all for Sony! That said, boys, let's all shut the fuck up, especially those posting made up shit about games crossing over to whatever console. Just shut up. Let the box keep it's gears and halos and bios and the Station have its fantasies and solids and gods and the dicks their heroes and sunshine and rainbows etc. The gaming community is just one big quagmire, like Geroge Bush, and everyone will look forward to the day that he finishes the fight that he started ZING! I bet the White House is playing Halo and Gears right now and drinking Mountain Dew to hype themselves into the mindset for war with Iran. That's how I feel when playing Halo online... I think there's some subliminal messages hidden amongst the colours... I just hate those red guys so so much...
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Ill play it on the PC evenutually. I've been playing Team Fortress 2 for the last couple days and its AMAZING. the Orange Box is the best deal in gaming, and i think a lot of gamers are going to miss out with all this Halo 3 hype. i mean, god. yes. its halo, and yeah its exciting, but really too much hype. just in IMO. Orange Box will be more fun and more long lasting, but wont get as much hype... sadness! *tears*
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i agree with you spice. the orange box is wonderful, and wont get as much hype.. but, (and this is coming from a half life 2 lover) it really doesnt deserve as much hype. now if it was half life 3...
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about not ever seeing the inside of a vagina ever again!!!!
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this ain't IGN. bring on the movie news.
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All of those games you listed are on consoles too...and many may argue that the console counterparts of those games you mentioned are better than the PC ones. Crysis does look cool yeah, but $2000 new computer cool.
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I meant "but NOT $2000 new computer cool" in my last post. Fuck.
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did you notice how big this talkback was? did you catch the three days of mainstream news coverage this has been getting.. obviously people think this is 'cool' news. its not like they stopped reporting on movies to put this article up. and if you dont care about games its not like you had to read this article. but then i guess everything i just typed is obvious, and you just wanted to whine.
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Descent was my favorite game forever. Such a great "FPS" style experience when it came out. Some parts were pretty freaky too, like the bot with a cloaking device.
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sorry, just feel a need to post everywhere- but really man: "Game Fuel"? hang your head in shame. Game Fuel should always= beer.
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on the posters for the game. "A hero must rise". Because, like, dude, that's so much better and less clichéd than "A hero will rise".
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seriously you people are retarded sheep. oh, and fuck killzone too.
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Ive been coming to this site for years, but never posted because I thought 99% of TBers were retarded 12 year olds. I realize the hypocrisy of what I am doing here, so no need to point it out.
"We called it 'Game Fuel'" Thats because thats what its called. PLANT.
"7 hours on Heroic" Horse shit. PLANT.
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Halo is the most underrated piece of cake ever
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You're right, your name shouldn't have been on that list. I indeed misread your post...please forgive the retardation on my part, I was just a bit frustrated and perplexed by some of the other folks on the board. However, I still stand by my post. Those of you who came here only to poo-poo Halo, FPSs, video-games in general, or people who play them....what can I say? Why are you here? Or as you put it soup, "and if you dont care about games its not like you had to read this article." EXACTLY! So instead of your name insert, sith_rising....oh and maybe Bass Bastardson, but especially "I've got some bad news for everyone here." Chumkid..you can still suck a fat one. What? You expected "Gee, you're absolutely right! You've really opened my eyes! Wow...thanks!"??....tools
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Half Life is great and I don't mind Halo, but the level of design and polish that went into Bioshock makes Halo 3 look like a watered down kids game.
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thanks, i retract my childish name calling of you. sorry.
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right? in bioshock
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Come on, Halo is like the bucket of piss you'd throw out from your bed chamber in the morning after you'd been up all night playing Marathon.
I played all those early Bungie games, Even Pathways into Darkness (Well, this was almost unplayable). But then came Marathon, then Marathon Durendal, then Marathon Infinity. The original Forge and Anvil gave us games like Tempus Irae, Evil, Red, Rubicon, etc. Fans created thousands of levels, and even complete games, that were as good as the game you bought from Bungie.
Now we have Halo. Watered down drivel left over from Marathon.
Can't you even put a huge "THANK YOU LARRY NIVEN" sticker on the box. I just started replaying many of the Marathon games, as they are now ported for the PC (AND FREE). Went thru Marathon II, Infinity, now almost thru Tempus Irae, next will be Evil.
Halo 3 equals next to no plot, no open source code, Forge is now dumbed down for morons, etc.
I'm gonna drag out my Pong console, or my Vic 20 and relearn peak and poke statements.
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..but I find the graphics slightly better than Halo 2 and not by a huge step.(I'm a graphics whore so fuck you.) GOW and Bioshock shows the true power of the 360. But that's not to say that H3 is bad, actually when I find the time this weekend, I'll play more of it.
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Like, "New-Coke" is a relic of the 80's I think it's safe to drop "Classic" from the label. Oh hey, cheers soup.
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Can you imagine playing a Rock Lords game on the Wii? Holy fucking shit! That would Rock so fucking hard...Lords.
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just stopped for a mid game spliff and read the article. its 3am. nice. i love this game, im off to kill more btutes and flood
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... then he doesn't.
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Nice way to try and spoil it for people; cock.
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There's one thing I've learned about Halo, people either love it or hate it. And I haaaaaaaaaAAAAAAATE it. Some folks think it's the greatest thing ever and don't understand how anyone couldn't like it. Some people think it's the most overrated piece of shit ever conceived. Count me in with the second crowd. It's been years since I've been so underwhelmed with a FPS campaign. Multiplayer ain't my thing and I understand that it is, of course, the focal point of Halo... but the people going on and on about how amazing the single/coop campaign are melting my brain. Unimpressive cutscenes, weak direction... for the time and budget they had I should have been blown away at some point in the first 20-30 minutes. I turned it off because I was bored. So to each their own. Everyone having a great time with it, I envy you, I wish I could but this shit simply ain't fun in any way to me.
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HALO 3 IS VERY ENJOYABLE. Once you play it, go eat your girlfriends pussy becouse you've been ignoring her for three days and get some sleep. I like the game. Thats it. I notice most of the losers posting here arent Halo fans at all, but whiney art and film school dropouts that come here to make themselves feel like they are relevant to the film industry. What you need to realize is for fans, Halo is a movie.
And for all you PC guys shitting on Halo out there and claiming you are superior in graphics, skill and all that noise? Yeah, maybe thats true. But who cares? We're all having fun. PC games are all right, not my bag really, but I'm sure for people into them there pretty damn enjoyable.
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Play the Jericho demo. You can swap between three different characters at any time in the game. The story is twice as original and interesting than anything Halo has ever offered.
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It strikes me funny that a lot of you guys are panning Halo's (the whole series) graphical interface, comparing it to PC FPS games and downplaying it. I am in that 30+ gamer demographic. I have been playing FPS games since the original DOOM was still popular. I've played every series worth playing and had a huge dislike for consoles myself. When I had a son I talked the wife into buying a PS2 which we played platform types games and a couple of their attempts at shooters, at least they had Quake 3. One day when I was over at a friends house he was playing the most graphically exquisite game I had seen on a console, to that point. That single game, HALO: Combat Evolved, caused me to buy an XBOX. Nothing else. I went out the next day and bought it. I played the hell out of it. When Halo 2 came out I thought it was great. I was suprised by how short the story was compared to the first one but it looked and sounded wonderful. I still was very much into PC FPS games and really enjoy the hell out of the Battlefield series as I write this diatribe. You cannot compare a console to a PC today because the consoles generally have infinately larger space to play with, the maps are way larger, the MP is much higher, capacity wise (64 players per map or more), and you could go on and on. It is like apples and oranges. There is no universal law that prohibits someone of reasonable intelligence from liking both PC and console games for their own reasons. Having gone through my life story of gaming I am amazed that there are so many haters out there who apparently cannot accept two styles of gaming or allow a company, Microsoft, a bit of respect. Microsoft runs everything. Their game Studios right now, OWN everything out there. What single title launched a console or propelled MASSIVE sales for a long period of time? Star Wars, respectable but nope. Madden does very well but you either like sports games or you don't, I don't. The only other game, besides Halo, that I can think of is Super Mario Brothers. Just give a bit of credit where it's due. No other game in history has done 170 MILLION dollars in its first 24 hours. Gears of War rocks. I knew it would be awesome. But for my time or money on a console there is NOTHING that makes me giggle like sticking a plasma grenade on someone either on XBOX Live or in campaign and watching them get launched into oblivion. I am just sad there will not be another Halo: FPS for a while. But there will be Halo Wars! And Gears of War 2 is a certainty. I just hope Peter Jackson does Halo the Movie right, I have confidence he will (if they ever come to a studio decision). NOtice NO ONE from Microsoft is hauling ass over to Uwe Bolle or Paul WS Anderson's pad begging for their "expertise" in franchise movies. If anyone had the patience to scroll all the way down to this level of talkback hell, I'm sorry this was so long winded. Peace.
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"...one new match type we downloaded from Bungie.net is called Rocket Race. It feels like a Halo version of Mario Kart, and is even more addictive than stealing somebody else's Skittles. It's a modified VIP match with several teams of two. Everyone is invincible, armed with bottomless rocket launchers, and supplied with a mongoose. When the game begins, a goal appears on the map, and the first team to reach it gets a point. Then the goal moves to another random point, until a team captures enough of them to win the game. The whole time, rockets are flying everywhere, mongooses are flipping wildly, and everyone is literally having a blast. It's sweet."
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That's freeeakin' awesome!!!!
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$165 Million Dollars in a day. http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30400-1286140,00.html
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You might even find designs that parody maps from other games, classic or otherwise. hahahahahahahahaha
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- now they only have to do that about a thousand more times and they'll make their 360 losses back.
I keed because I love. -
Jer-ri-cho!! Spasmoyltic was right this game adds something new to the typical cookie cutter FPS out there. It's funny how I spent more attention playing the demo as oppossed to Halo 3. So much for the hype.
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and got the flashing ring of death exactly 1 day after I got Halo 3. Dammit. 3-4 weeks to get it shipped out and repaired. Motherfucker.
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Loved halo on my old xbox. Halo 2, very shabby. I like the sound of the innovations for this version.
Saying that, if I wanted to buy a console that'd brick on me after a few months of ownership, i'd just badly unlock a PSP.
I do envy the 360 games selection and lineup, it's just the hardware that sucks. Maybe i'll wait for the Vista version of H3 instead. -
Children play Mario.
Boys play Master Chief.
Men play Gordon Freeman.
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