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So... About That SOUTHLAND TALES Trailer...
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
Okay. First off, here we go:
Here’s the trailer for Richard Kelly’s “Southland Tales,” starring Dwayne Johnson, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Seann William Scott, Mandy Moore, Justin Timberlake and Kevin Smith.
Matt McDaniel
Yahoo! Movies
I noticed something odd about the e-mails today. Normally, when a highly-anticipated geek movie trailer appears online, we’ll get about 50 to 100 e-mails telling us that it’s appeared online. And I’m not complaining. I appreciate every single person who takes it upon themselves to send us a heads up on anything. That’s the way this all works. But normally, when that happens, each of those people will chime in with their opinion. And not even for publication. Just because they have an opinion, and they want to share it.
We got the same number of e-mails today, but there was something strange about the complete lack of opinion in every single e-mail we were sent. Not good. Not bad. Just... nothing. The link to the trailer. That’s it. Over and over, like everyone was nervous about offering up their opinion first.
I think it’s a fascinating trailer. Kevin Smith’s appearance alone has me ready to fork over my $10. It’s got some great striking imagery. I have no idea what the fuck it’s about, but if I had the whole thing figured out from a 2 minute trailer, I think I’d actually be a little let down.
I hope Kelly pulls this one out. I think that would be a great ending to the story for this particular movie. He took such a public beating on this at Cannes, and I think the movie press has been waiting for this one ever since, sharpening their knives as they so often do, ready to kick the shit out of it. I think it’d be great fun if the work that Kelly’s done since Cannes has transformed the film, and suddenly people would have to decide for themselves if they liked it or not.
I’ve watched this trailer about four or five times today, and no matter how the final film is, I’m intrigued, so the trailer has absolutely done its job for now. After all this time, as a first glimpse, I felt like this worked.
Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles
Matt McDaniel
Yahoo! Movies
Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles
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Sorry, Mori.
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Except that by the very end, I had the feeling that I might be watching a very odd version of Dr. Strangelove warped through the space-time continuum. A very iffy proposition at best.
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But it looks good! And hooray for Dwayne Johnson for not being "The Rock" anymore!
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This thing looks like cool, trippy fun.
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"Kevin Smith’s appearance reminds me that I want him to fork over my $10 back for that piece of shit Clerks 2."
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I got the heads-up on this trailer yesterday from the Zone, and I forgot to watch it after work. Now I'm thinking.. I've seen only a few publicity stills. I've checked out the website. I haven't read the comics, but maybe I should. But I don't want to see the trailer. I just want to go into this movie cold, I have barely an idea of what it's about. Donnie Darko was a complete mystery to me before I saw it. I dunno... Hey, people beat the shit out of the Fountain, and I love that movie more than any other. It sings to me on a level that no other film has. Can lightning strike twice for me? Guess we'll find out.
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Is this a Lorne Michaels joint?
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...the world ended ...in a movie
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i think the fatal flaw of this movie is the lead casting. there is a trifecta of crap at the top of this movie. although i'm curious to see if this movie is a train wreck or not, having to endure 2 hours of buffy, the rock and stiffler may be unbearable. how and why these three continue to work is beyond me, especially considering there are actual actors out in this world. ever notice how buffy's nose is disgustingly deformed? seriously, its time for her to get a nose job. maybe that will save her frefalling career.
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Sep 21, 2007 8:00:51 AM CDT
That looks so much better than those earlier trailers
by col. tigh-fighter
This is actually looks quite good now. Im a fraid im not a Darko fan, so he has a long way to go to win me over.
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i feel like the rock could have done better movies by now but he kept getting stuck in the i am the new arnold role when he has his own charm and he could be the new arnold if he just acts like himself and takes roles meant for him not arnold, if that makes any sense, so yeah i'm psyched
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He needs to stop popping up in movies that have some sort of cultural significance/geek-appeal.
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This looks like a pretentious piece of garbage.
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But really fucking goofy too.
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where is kevin smith in that trailer?
and what the hell is that movie about?
the fact that i work in a comic book store i am guessing i should know more about southland tales but i do not. Yes, the movie looks trippy, but trippy for trippy sake just sucks, you still need a semi-coherent plot. So basically it looks like they took Johnny Memnonic, Scanner Darkly, Total Recall and Strange Days with just a tad Brazil hit blend and here we go folks . . . eh could be good. -
...Mr. Kelly came to my favorite comic shop (Velocity Comics in Rich,VA) to sign stuff and promote the first graphic novel. He also brought along 7 or 8 minutes of the movie. He wanted to show us more, but the studio wouldn't let him. This was right after Cannes. Out of context, we really had no idea what we were seeing. But I was intrigued. I wanted to see more and I still do.
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Kevin Smith was in the trailer?? I think It looks pretty good. it got alittle strange at the end. Justin Timberlake looks pretty cool.... and where was KS?
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Why do companies still want to publish on this flash player shit? GLORIOUS QUICKTIME FOOL!!!!!
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And my wife worships Donnie Darko, so maybe I'll actually see this. Although I bet waiting for DVD is more likely
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Why do people on this site kiss Kevin Smith's ass? Sure he's done 1 or 2 good movies, but what about the other pieces of shit he's made? Also, the man has a bigger ego than his waist size, thanks again to the same ass kissers.
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At least it doesn't seem like a movie I've already seen. That's more than I can say for most previews these days. I'd rather see a filmmaker swing for the fences than just running over the same old bases again and again. Pretentious and Goofy gets my ass in the seat.
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Kevin *GUNSHOOT* Smith is a fat pompus piece of *GUNSHOOT* *GUNSHOOT* *GUNSHOOT* *GUNSHOOT* *GUNSHOOT* *GUNSHOOT* *GUNSHOOT*
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I think he was in old makeup in the elevator towards the end. Just a guess, though.
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does nothing for me one way or the other.
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Let me first say that I thoroughly enjoyed Donnie Darko (the original. The Director's Cut, not so much). I read the 3 graphic novels that lead into this film and I would have to say it will be very, very difficult to understand what is going on without reading them. The art is very poor, almost like they just used the storyboards from the film production.
Anyway, the plot is basically a mishmash of anti-war (specifically Iraq), anti big corporations, musical numbers, religious/spiritual philosophy, and tons of characters. While I cannot say that I actually found the story in the graphic novels to be fantastic, I cannot deny that Richard Kelly has created a wholly original story that will definitely have people talking. This movie has the potential to be one of those movies you sit around and talk to your friends about for months trying to figure out exactly what the hell is going on. It is by no means a mainstream Hollywood type movie and I am sure it will be bashed harshly by most critics. -
what Dwayne Johnson is COOKING.
seriously, the guy has got LOADS of charisma. and it looks like he`ll show a lot of it!
Dwayne Rulez, the Spy-Hunter thing (latinoreview loved it)should have been made -
was the fucking disaster in the beginning.
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Looks the same. Cheap-looking futuristic gargabe. I love The Rock, and from the looks of him in this, I would say that this was going to hurt his career. BUT no one is going to see this, so it's okay.
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once we actually see the film (finally)
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I haven't seen Donnie Darko (some asshole spoiled it to me in a TB a long time ago. Asshole.) BUT this looks weird. And I love weirdness.
Besides Mori, some French site posted it yesterday, and I'm sure a gazillions of blog mirrored it, hence the lack of "wow" factor I suppose. And by saying that I'm not jumping in the bandwagon of AICN-late-for-trailers bashers. I'm just saying that maybe, MAYBE the lack of early comments has nothing to do with the trailer itself. Maybe.
Oh, and the critics sharpening their knives "as they so often do"... yes that sucks, but I'm pretty sure that's what happened right here with Rob Zombie's "Halloween". And I'm not dissing you either (Zombie's flick sucked real hard) but you should know this kind of behaviour is shown even by the better of them critics^^ -
charisma. I remember when he started making his way into movies and I rolled my eyes, thinking, not another wrestler wanna be actor. It's going to be Mr. Nanny all over again. Then he started making movies and slowly but surely he began winning me over. I would really like to see him get more varied roles. If nothing else this film will let people know he can handle lots of different roles. I'll admit to being more than a little perplexed after watching the trailer. I have no clue what it's about. It's different, I'll give it that. Oh, and the Pixies cover sounds pretty good.
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Hooooooooooooooooooo boy i am gonna be skipping this one. pretentious and goofy may very well get my ass into a seat alot of the time but usually it is the seat of my couch, across from my TV when i put a dvd in. and 3 hours of pretentious of goofy is about 90 minutes too much. my attention span is short enough that i am certain i would walk out of something so disjointed-seeming. i am not talking shit on kelly, just me and my fucked up brains over here. if i wanted to talk shit on kelly i would express my opinion that Donnie Darko is one of the most overrated, thinks-it's-hot-but-it's-sooo-not pieces of shit i have had the misfortune of watching.
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Blood hell, all this time I'd had no idea he was in this. I'm a big fan of DARKO, but seeing Timberlake's little punk ass, 3 days growth face just hits me in the pit of my stomach, this thing right there automatically loses a good portion of credibility for me.
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Seriously. Everyone listed in this movie annoys the living shit out of me. If this had Ron Howard's brother in it, it would be THE PERFECT ANNOYANCE. Looks intriguing though. Oh and Darth Bauer: Shut the fuck up about STRANGE DAYS. That movie rocks.
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Pixies FTW!
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Donnie Darko was nonsense and this looks just about as worthless.
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I loved Darko, but one film does not a "visionary" make. This looks like A Scanner Darkly w/out the animation. This looks like it doesn't know what it wants to do. This looks like a director who was thrilled to have a big budget, but doesn't know quite what to do with it. I hope I'm wrong.
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comforting, since it looks like there's way too much stuff for a two hour film. Maybe it's length will actually be a benefit instead of a hindrance (*cough* Pirates *cough*). This looks like a B-movie with an overstuffed budget, but unfortunately when B-movies get the budget they want then they usually shoot themselves in the foot. Repo Man wouldn't be nearly as great if it didn't have cheesy effects. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't intrigued. Oh, and I agree that Strange Days fucking ruled.
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sold me soooo much more than Kevin Smith's beard. There can be only one^^
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That's the "Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf)" version they did. It was on the "Pump Up The Volume" soundtrack, too, IIRC.
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because the cast looks dreadful. Though, oddly, the Rock has become a somewhat endearing screen presence to me, which I wouldn't have predicted.
'Donnie Darko' was a flawed but original and engaging movie that said some true things about adolescent anxiety and isolation. BUT, this dude also wrote 'Domino', one of the worst, most unnecessarily complicated films in recent years. -
sounds too good to be a Pixies cover. Pixies covers don't usually work with me since most bands rip them off in their own music anyway so it seems redundant to do a cover as well.
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holds up well the ravages of time. This TB is full of Truth.
As for Southland Tales, severely or lightly flawed, I predict a cult following this flick as much as with Fight Club. I hope it's as good as Fincher's film. I just hope its followers won't be composed at 98.9% of 16 years old "rebels" girls wearing Che T-shirts. For a change. -
Been waiting for ages for this and jumped on it this morning to watch. The graphic novels got me excited, and the trailer well, i dunno what to make of it but i think I like it. Yeah. I think heh, it's too early to tell. Strange days hahah oh what fun. This looks like fun too. I hope it kicks ass.
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even see Kevin Smith in the trailer.... we need some positive reviews of the movie.. instead of a bunch of movie bashers that work at 7-11 lol..
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and kevin smith is in this isn't he. hmm.. well, i think i actually like the rest of the cast more than him.
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It makes me want to chew on glass to see most of you sitting here, speculating about what "garbage" Southland Tales will be. Meanwhile movies like 'Daddy Day Camp', 'Good Luck Chuck','Dragon Wars', and 'Rush Hour 3' infest theaters 99% of the time. We should be so lucky to have a film to watch that takes risks, is highly unpredictable, and doesn't have a 2 or 3 in the title.
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Grow up!
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Count me out.
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I mean I loved Donnie Darko when it came out (not too sure about the amount of band wagon jumping that happened afterwards in my hometown) but this....ack. I mean even from the trailer the tone seemed confused-not a well mixed hybrid of apocalyptic action drama and subtle comedy but more of a "I dunno-were just everything shoved together" vibe. And theres clearly too much stunt casting there-it seems like Kelly wants to make it weird for the sake of being weird and he's doing that by casting the Rock, Buffy and stifler and justin timberlake (who seems like a bandwagon jumper to me....maybe not I dont know the guy but it seems like a good move for a pop star to pop up in a movie by the guy who made a film loved by teenagers). I mean Swayze in Darko worked, but this is just weird casting to get attention, which isnt a good idea.and from what Ive heard hes just made a deliberatly overly weird complicated film for the sake of it, just cos everyone loved that in Donnie Darko (which was oly ambiguous after enforced edited as I recall) However, I hope it turns out okay...Ill definatly go see it even though I hate..and I mean HATE sean william scott. hate the fucker-can not stand him. But heres hoping its been worth all this time and controversy unlike Marie Antoinete which just kinda disappeared....
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I didn't bash STRANGE DAYS. I said I didn't need to see some STRANGE DAYS clone. Next time don't just look at words, understand them you caveman.
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The movie, is what comes to mind! Personally, I think this will be my favorite film of the year but we shall see.
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it wasn't exactly Richard III but a good "serious" effort nonetheless. And the movie had Lou Diamond Phillips with George Clooney's hair: a winner in my book.
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and I think that's the number one thing that's killing my enthusiasm. Both Marie Antoinette and Southland Tales were booed at Cannes. I figured the French were just pissed off because there were a bunch of American actors playing French people and decided to go see Marie Antoinette anyway (I really enjoyed Lost in Translation just like I really enjoyed Donnie Darko). Turns out the French were right and Marie Antoinette was just a bad movie. Lots of nice style but zero substance. So these films are linked in my mind. Beloved earlier film by a new director and getting booed at Cannes. I hope the editing has saved the film and we don't end up with another Marie Antoinette but it does send up warning signs.
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Thank you sir for making a film that may be wierd but gets the message out that our govt is planning a nuclear 9/11 to throw us in a police state. Sometimes it takes pop culture to educate these unintelligent goofs. One can only hope this film gets out before it really happens.
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Sep 21, 2007 10:43:44 AM CDT
Who's betting a nuclear hit really happens and stops...
by performingmonkey
...this from coming out EVER.
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Looks like they cut the running time to just a tad over 2 hours on this. Good thing too, the wiki on it says some people where calling it the "worst movie they have ever seen presented at Cannes" Considering Brown Bunny if I remember was presented there, that does NOT bode well for this flick.
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Through the giant uncomfortable mess that was that trailer. Richard Kelly says: "Look at me, I'm doing social satire! A-cha, cha, cha, cha!"
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i thought to myself, "hmm, richard kelly picked some great songs for the donnie darko soundtrack, and it looks like this movie might continue that trend..."
and then i saw "music by moby" in the credits at the end of the trailer.
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hovel, eyes blinking in the new-day's sun with no knowledge of the hype surrounding this movie or Donnie Darko, he would look at that trailer and say, "that shit looks like fuckin' Rat Race... Mogmar dissapointed." Mogmar speaks for all of us, man.
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never a good sign.
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...are the knife-sharpening type when it comes to Richard Kelly. If anything I'd guess it's the other way around; that they're looking forward to this movie and treating it like a big deal because they're "supposed" to, but that they don't know what to make of what they saw.
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I was able to pick out: "Doomsday Scenario Interface," "Teen horniness is not a crime," "American Reinstates Draft," "Serpentine Dream Theory," "Ressurection, "American Hiroshima," and "Pituitary Gland."
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a mess to me. I'll see it on DVD but no way I'm shelling out for it in a theater.
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You gotta be kidding me . . his appearance enough of a reason to avoid the movie. Anyone else agree that he's distracting and can't act?
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And good ones.
Like, the trailer was loading a little slow, so it kept getting stuck during the initianl flashes sequence... At one point it got stuck right with Jon Lovitz face on the screen and i was
WHOA, WHAT THE HECK IS THIS...
Then all of the other crazyness of the trailer blows up... As mentioned, climatic music made it a great trailer. The movie seems like a big budget Donnie Darko, and i hope it turns out that way. Love Donnie darko. -
Sep 21, 2007 11:16:13 AM CDT
Lovitz is there to give Gellar "a little pickle tickle"
by reynard muldrake
And then be on his way. Seriously though, anyone using Jon Lovitz before he eats Jared from Subway is going to go far in my book. And Richard Kelly already has gone far. Looks like I'll be seeing this.
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Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's Disney kiddie flick? That'll make a freaky double feature. I hope Dwayne's career doesn't mirror Vin Diesel's..he's got more charisma than that.
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confusing and boring film, what is it with these 'cool' directors who think they are brilliant just because they can make a strange film that never makes sense?. I quite liked Darko but this just looks dumb but i'm sure it will get great reviews and you will get the 'intelligent' and 'cool' posters on here talking like its the best thing ever while the film totaly bombs at the box office.
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And Lovitz is reaping all the benefits...
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i always had faith is this film even when i heard it bombed at Cannes, and now seeing the trailer i could see that this will be an extremely important film, maybe not understood by all, who mostly go to movies to see shit blow up and tits. i think the fact that the film is 3 hours long is FANtastic, for it shows that Kelly has created a totally original story in a not so farfetched reality, only to destroy it. not with a whimper, but with a bang. that's the way to do it. and as for everyone who's been complaining about the cast, vai tomar no cu, seus viadinhos, d.johnson is one of the most charismatic actors working today, and the rest of the ensemble is terrific. moral of my long-ass post: if you're a true film lover (of course taste is like the asshole, everyóne's got their own), you will appreciate the ideas and issues presented in the film by Kelly.
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I'm a compositor and man what up with that guy shooting the rocket launcher. Ever hear of color correction or feather tool. It looks like some backyard greenscreen job. The smoke looks aweful too? Is that a fake scene added to the trailer for spunk. Sure doesn't make sense that a guy is near point blank range, shoots the blimp, and then we see the blimp blow up (nowhere near a building). Sorry Rich I'm gettin picky.
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Love the side shot of mrs "ego reflection" shooting off the gun and screaming.
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Man those people don't look too concerned that a nuke went off down the street. I'm betting that's cameo city with richards relatives.
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a bad Gilliam movie. And what's with the choice of actors? Give me a break.
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Anyone care to comment on whether the Southland prequel comics are worth picking up? There is a three in one graphic novel collecting all 3 coming out in October.. but i don't know how diff it will be from the separate volumes
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and $100 of that will be from me seeing it ten times.
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Where can you get them besides Amazon? My local B&N doesn't have any of them yet. Hopefully the three in one won't leave anything out from the separate books.
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should be in every movie made from now on. he's awesome. and i hate wrestling. and i drive a civic. but i'm not gay.
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to see if his choice of actors will be able to pull this off, darko is easily in my top ten , although I didn't like the directors cut, but the choice of cast here is...odd, i figure that after all the shit it's been through this flick will be massively flawed, but I rather have a confusing sprawling mess that at least tries to be original than rush hour 3 or any of those superbad type flicks that you dickheads lap up like kittens under a cows udder.
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But I can easily see it not all coming together, but fingers crossed. I thought the SNL casting was bizarre but it looks like it could work for the tone of the film. I think I might get sick of all the bad southern accents though; if they're done the least bit poorly they really ham up performances.
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Was an ok movie but I am sooo fucking tired of these people telling me its the best movie ever and they've seen it a million times. It ok? I've seen it a couple of time (I always laugh at HOW bad Jena Malone's death looks, and am I the only one who thinks she is really hot?). But these people who know nothing about movies want to tell about how great Donnie Darko is? When it is usually the only non main stream movie they've ever seen. I hope the same effect doesn't happen with this movie. Dwaye is gonna kick ass in the new Up Your Ass Disney affair, that movie could kill his attempt at becoming an actor.
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Apparently, it was a bad year for three-hour epics. As for Southland Tales, I like the looks of Mandy Moore in this. She looks kinda slutty. That can't be a bad thing.
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Sep 21, 2007 12:47:04 PM CDT
really liked the trailer. Cant forget those reviews...
by george newman
Those reviews from the Fest were not that good. I really hope this is a great film cuz that was a great great trailer
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'American Dreamz.' Did you champion that movie, being the original free-thinker that you are, while the rest of "us" dickheads lapped up 'Rush Hour 3' and 'Wedding Crashers'? I'm guessing the answer is no. Because that movie looked like it sucked, and it did. Don't kid yourself into thinking your taste in movies in any more legitimate than anybody else's just because you've been trained to think of Richard Kelly as the greatest director of the 21st century.
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...you have obviously only heard 2 or 3 songs from his last two albums and got no idea of his full discography and his whole bandwith as musician!
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Hope it isn't as Darko was amazing. None of the cast can act though, The Rock, Buffy, Sean William Scott...what were they thinking? Bit of a comedown from the Darko cast.
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its interesting to see all these comedic type actors playing what seems like more serious roles. The trailer looks cool. hope it doesn't suck
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Strange Days is an amazing flick.
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It seems like EVERY sci fi film/tv show deals with a pending apocalypse or totalitarian takeover. Frankly, I'm getting bored of it all. Thank goodness the western is coming back in vogue.
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...in other words, kind of retarded.
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U JUST DIDNT G3T IT!!!11 OMG WTF LOL
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The trailer makes me want to see the movie, as I've been staying away from all reviews/previews of the movie.
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That looks truly awful, in terms of visuals, acting, story, everything. Why the fuck did he hire such piss poor actors? I really liked Donnie Darko, until he explained it, both with the DC and all the other bollocks surrounding it. Seems like he believed his own hype and promptly disappeared up his own arse. I hope this film bombs in order to humble him, as the guy has talent, but his ego is for now consuming it.
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fuck the haters.. At the worst it'll be a lynch-esque beautiful disaster.
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While your adolescent stance on "commercial" movies is super-keen and all, you do realize that neither Brad Pitt nor George Clooney have a) particularly been making a lot of movies on a yearly basis, nor b) been starring in a lot of banal safe studio pap for say, oh, the PAST 10 YEARS.
You know who has? The Rock and Sean William Scott, who are in pieces of SHITE every other week, and exemplify the type of whore-actor that populates (and helps ruin) film today.
You know what else? Satire is the excuse of the failed pretentious filmmaker. Remember that when SOUTHLAND opens.
So get a clue, get a perspective, and stop pimping SOUTHLAND and its graphic novels like you know anything about film. Your plant I.D. card is showing out your back pocket, you schnook. -
a filmmaker with a vision. i have no problem with that. i've been looking forward to this one for a while. and the trailer merely makes me even more excited. run, kelly, run!!
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Maybe this is just me looking at the past with rose-colored glasses, but I long for the days when this particular gem of an Internet meme had yet to become popular. Or maybe it's just that all of the good TalkBackers left a long time ago, and the only ones left are the online equivalent of the people who paint their bodies at football games and spill their beers on you. Seriously, what is the point of registering for an account if all you plan on saying is "fuck the HATAZ!" You can practice your self-imposed ignorance all by yourself.
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Is he that old dude in the wheelchair that looks like Santa Claus near the end (In the elevator)?Oh, and about the movie... Netflix.
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I fucking loathed Donnie Darko. Terrible flick. But when I saw Richard Kelly at Comic-Con, part of me wanted to be a fan. He's a super cool guy, and the clip he showed from Southland was quite interesting. Still can't get into Darko, but I've got a feeling Kelly is one to look out for. That and he earned my ten bucks with the Pixies tune in the trailer, and I hear it's important in the movie. Pixies are teh shit!
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I'll be checking this out for sure. I might not be as interested if it wasn't for Donnie Darko. We'll see.
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it's in there for about half a second, i don't know how the hell that fits in the movie but i'll gladly pay to see. some people hope it bombs to "teach the egomaniac Kelly a lesson"...c'mon man, grow up...And others rather see on it on Netflix or download it. these are the people who have no REAL love for the art of Cinema (experience on the Big Screen). OF COURSE i want the movie to be good, that Kelly really understood the position he was in after making a sudden cult hit...so what does he do? he takes all the $$$ and invests it in a film with themes that can upset the very nation he lives in, hoping to his god that more people embrace it rather than dismiss it (for the choice of actors, for example...bichinhas). He's not trying to teach people a lesson or the the messiah of a terrible future to come...as a filmmaker, he's doing his job accordingly...pushing the boundaries of cinema itself...as if in saying "hey, if we want to make a movie where the governmnet is the bad guy...we can man!!! and look, people accept it". I may have sounded a bit anarchist in the last statement...but, in pushing the limits of filmmaking, he's done his job AND entertained us... i for one, will be there opening night when it premieres down he in Rio, where the city's film festival just started last night...i'll send in an ELITE SQUAD review, has anyone ever heard of this movie...it's a crime drama about the police the elite police force down here in Rio...THIS YEAR'S "CITY OF GOD"!!!
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so many typos, so little time...
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but i missed it..i was too busy on the computer.
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You mean until the Kelly himself added a bunch of useless comics, commentary, and director's cut?
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You wrote this, asshole. "I already saw STRANGE DAYS, I'll pass on this.
Looks the same. Cheap-looking futuristic gargabe". Tell me, it doesn't mean you equal SD to "cheap-looking futuristic 'garbabe'" ? If that's not what you meant, LEARN TO FUCKING WRITE. -
It reminds me of when I worked in a theater and they made us hand out brochures "explaining" the backstory to people walking in to see the original Dune. If you need to explain the story to people, then it's a mess to begin with.
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Oh My God Kevin Smith... I ain't seeing this movie.. blah blah blah.. Do you guys need me to call the waaaambulence a bunch of cry babies. nothing is ever good enough for anyone.
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I want to punch your son. he is a cunt.
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Too bad the movie won't make any more sense than that trailer.
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I'm discovering all these great songs that I've never heard of. I've been playing "all these things" in my car and friends are saying "man thats a good song, what is that". Can this guy pick a soundtrack or what!
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Either this film is the tipping point for the "secret govt" to say "well, we better blow the nukes off now before the world really catches on to the new world order" OR, its already too late for them and they'll pause the progressional police state for a while until we all fall asleep again.
Read the bible NWO. You lose. Spend your time with all that cash making movies, be creative, creativity kills boredom fast, and thats what you are, bored. Well when god sets up HIS new world order you'll be plenty busy shoveling charcoal in hell!
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No, you save the HATING for the 'Mist' preview, right?
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Have fun with your bigotry. I'll be over here in the New World.
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So what you mean is, "Donnie Darko was great until I read conflicting opinions to my own." Kelly has style. Aranofsky has style. Both men understand how to establish mood, both men obviously understand camera technique. But I'm not convinced that either one knows how to tell a story. Too many people love the hell out of both directors for their panache, and I'm not sold. Aranofsky especially. It's too common among people I know to talk up those films using technique terms or "art" terms and completely ignore the story. You know, there's a difference between talking about a complex idea and actually SAYING something about it. If you're content with listening to someone talk with no apparent point (and I'm not judging, some people enjoy postulating without coming to a conclusion), then those two guys are for you. Myself, I'll take a narrative guy like Nolan or Del Toro (who are also visually expressive and relatively fresh faces in film, to keep with the same company). You seem to be more of the Expressive camp, as opposed to the Narrative camp, so our opinions are naturally going to conflict a little. But do yourself and others a favor and consider that our opinions are just as well-informed as your own. Fucking internet losers though we may be.
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Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
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How can you go back and forth, having to contemplate "shelling out" for a movie ticket? A movie ticket is around $7-$10. If you love movies--which is what brings most people to this site--then buying a movie ticket is no different than buying a meal or paying a bill. You just do it. My God man, do you contemplate every $10 purchase in your life?
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is the name of that song at the end.
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This is the song that timberlake sings, hopefully this one won't involve a wardrobe malfunction.
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People will bash anything that doesn't fit into their cookie-cutter movie categories. I think this looks interesting and ambitious. Donnie Darko is one of my favorite movies (not the director's cut) and I've been looking forward to this one for a while. I actually like the cast - it's not the actors themselves (and yes, they've all done some shitty movies) but the fact that they're being taken seriously in prominent roles that are unlike what they're famous for - that's what's interesting. SMG has done some awful films, but some of her acting on Buffy was brilliant (ex: The Body), Mandy Moore was excellent in Saved, and anyone remember Nora Dunn in Three Kings? The list goes on - I like the fact that Kelly gives these actors an opportunity to stretch themselves and buck expectations. I think many so-called "bad" actors have only lacked good material to act. Not everyone, mind you, but many. I also hope that this film is able to transcend the negative hype and become successful. In a way it reminds me of Wim Wenders' Until the End of the World - a huge cast, huge soundtrack, long movie, critically panned and financial bomb, but to me, a beautiful piece of cinematic art that withstands the test of time. Don't know if the latter will apply to this film, but I hope it does. And btw, I've seen this trailer several times, and I still have not spotted Kevin Smith. Are you sure you weren't imagining it? He's not Christopher Lambert at the end and he's not the bearded dude in the elevator. I wasn't aware he had anything to do with this movie.
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Like a Back in the Day Lynch or Fight Club Coll! What was wrong with it last time or was it too clsssy for your average Hotdog?
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Sep 21, 2007 5:09:10 PM CDT
Kevin Smith hasn't made a good movie since Clerks? WTF?
by cruel_kingdom
Chasing Amy was fucking brilliant. You dumb bastards will hate on anything. "Look how cool I am. I can talk shit on the accomplishments of others..."
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... I'll give you a hint. He's in heavy make-up. And he is one of the guys you mentioned.
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Just heard that was the song he was lip syncing to. Lets face it folks, the film was probably a mess in the kitchen, but atleast richards using new spices. Id rather see a film that tried and failed to be original then see another unoriginal piece of toilet humor garbage in the film market today. Man, sometimes the utter stupidity of some americans makes me side with the view of the globalists.
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You thought SOUTHLAND TALES was the
hit of the fall, check this out!!!..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thvAgeUmm58
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Has me excited. I have no idea what the fuck any of it means, but you can bet your silver balls that I will be in the theater trying to figure it out!
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The title card in the trailer is the movie title over a warped map of the United States depicting the outcome of the 2004 election (county by county results in various shades between blue and red).
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Like a modern "The Magic Christian" by way of "The Holy Mountain." Whether or not this "works" for you, you've got to give the guy props for trying to make something whacked and original.
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Mori...differences aside, I was surprised you didn't know what this movie was about, and even more surprised you revealed this important detail, AND even MORE surprised I didnt know what this was or hadnt heard of it prior to your post about it so I looked it up and learned the following from the semi-reliable wikipedia:El Paso and Abilene, Texas have fallen victim to twin nuclear attacks on July 4th, 2005 – a catastrophe of unimaginable proportions which sent America into war. The Patriot Act has been upgraded to a new agency known as USIdent, which keeps constant tabs on citizens – even to the extent of censoring the internet and using fingerprints in order to access computers and bank accounts. In order to be able to respond to a newfound fuel scarcity, the German company Treer designs a generator of inexhaustible energy which is propelled by ocean currents. Unbeknownst to them, the generators alter the currents and cause the Earth to to spiral out of control through space, ripping holes in the fabric of space and time.
In Los Angeles, a city on the brink of chaos, we follow the criss-crossed destinies of Boxer Santaros (Dwayne Johnson), an action film actor stricken with amnesia; Krysta Now (Sarah Michelle Gellar), ex-porn star in the midst of reconverting; and twin brothers Roland and Ronald Taverner (both played by Seann William Scott), whose destinies – on one evening – become intertwined with that of all mankind.
end of summary...now Mori, with the plot revealed, at least the core of it, what do you think? And I'm being serious here. no bashing or setting you up for bashing. I personally think this is a complete snoozer. -
Lots of crazy shit in that trailer if you watch it frame by frame. Like why is the gun station that Timberlake was sitting at in the beginning being occupied by some other dude later? Why is he putting a bullet into the chamber that already has blood on the tip? Why is this Usident place getting raided by the Red Hot Chili Peppers or Nihilists at the end?
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They're mostly production in nature but after reading them it may help explain why the show took a beating at cannes. I'm off to pick up lupe tortillas for dinner but will be back to discuss as actually talking about movies in an aicn talkback has finally caught my interest for the first time in six years...Writer-director Richard Kelly wrote Southland Tales shortly before the September 11, 2001 attacks, and the original script involved blackmail, a porn star, and two cops. Since the attacks, Kelly revised the script. He described the update, "[The original script] was more about making fun of Hollywood. But now it's about, I hope, creating a piece of science fiction that's about a really important problem we're facing, about civil liberties and homeland security and needing to sustain both those things and balance them."[2]
Southland Tales was described to take place in Los Angeles in the summer of 2008, during a three-day heat wave that leads up to the 4th of July celebration. Kelly described the film, "[Southland Tales] will only be a musical in a post-modern sense of the word in that it is a hybrid of several genres. There will be some dancing and singing, but it will be incorporated into the story in very logical scenarios as well as fantasy dream environments."[3] Kelly has stated that the film's biggest influences are Kiss Me Deadly, Pulp Fiction, Brazil and Dr. Strangelove. He also calls it a "strange hybrid of the sensibilities of Andy Warhol and Philip K. Dick".[4]
In March 2004, Kelly and Cherry Road Films began development of Southland Tales. Filmmakers entered negotiations with actors Seann William Scott, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Jason Lee, Janeane Garofalo, Tim Blake Nelson, Amy Poehler, Kevin Smith, and Ali Larter to be cast into the film. Filmmakers also contacted musician Moby for the possibility of composing and performing the film's score.[3]
Filming was slated to begin in July 2004, but after a year, filming had not begun on Southland Tales. Actor Dwayne Johnson joined the cast in April 2005, and principal photography was slated to begin August 1, 2005 in Los Angeles.[5] Filming for Southland Tales began on August 15, 2005, with a budget of around US$15–17 million.
Southland Tales premiered at the Cannes Film Festival in May 2006 with a length of 160 minutes.[6] After the film's festival release, Southland Tales was purchased by Sony Pictures.[7] Kelly sought more financing to finish visual effects for the film, and he negotiated a deal with Sony to cut down on the film's length in exchange for funds to complete the visual effects.[8] Kelly edited the film down to the basic storylines of the characters portrayed by Scott, Gellar, and Johnson. The director also sought to keep the musical number performed by Timberlake, based on "All These Things That I've Done" by The Killers.[2] Editorial changes were made to restructure the order of the film's scenes, including re-recording all of Timberlake's voice-over. The director also added 90 new visual effects shots to the film and removed 20 to 25 minutes of footage from his initial cut.
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I don't know if I'll see this in theatres or on DVD. My thoughts really are the look of the film looks like mid nineties sci fi, like demolition man, tank girl, or even earlier like running man (especially the costumes). So if this is supposed to be straight sci fi it's lacking a little visual flair, but really it seems to be a satire or almost parody of sci fi that has a political statement so maybe it is aping typical sci fi stuff on purpose. Yes, it is probably weird for the sake of weird or as it might be called on college campuses, "postmodern". It seems like a passion project to the director and as most passion projects go they are so singularly the interest of the filmmaker that it doesn't have broad appeal. Maybe it'll surprise me but I'm not holding my breath.
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...like you're some friend of film who likes to think outside the box. You threw up the standard film school "it's clever because it doesn't use name actors" play, only I called you on it because not only did you use shitty "name" examples that don't really make sense, but with a cast like The Rock and SMG, your defense doesn't even apply! If you're going to throw rhetoric at me, at least make it relevant. And for the record, I have a completely open mind about the movie, what I'm not doing is talking up a bunch of obvious casting choices with a bunch of fanboy rhetoric (Yes, I concur that the casting was a deliberate attempt to catch people off guard... and SO DOES EVERYBODY ELSE. Which pretty much makes it a failed gimmick, now doesn't it? Thank you for playing.)
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I haven't tripped in awhile, but this might be one of those movies.
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... that's the one.
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Way to represent all those emotionally-superior sophisticates who like Kelly's work with eloquence. Find something specifically to take issue with before you tell me you don't like my stupid face.
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...what I was trying to say was that people pass judgment on how films "look" based on the posters, previews, premises, and actors who are in them all the time. It's incongruous to insult them for it because: 1) you do it yourself, if not with actors than with other promotional material and 2) the point of advertising is to give you a sense of whether or not you want to see a film; if you're not allowed to say it looks bad, or "hate," until you see the finished product, then what is the point of advertising in the first place? Not to say you can't object to people who think a movie looks bad for stupid reasons, but the act of deciding whether or not a movie looks good in and of itself is something that we all do several dozen times a day. And I shouldn't have even made as big a thing about it as I did today; my bitterness over all this "hater" bullshit in general just spiked at the wrong time.
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"Hopefully NOT this years solaris".
If that was true it would have been labeled "a richard kelly ExPeRience".
Ugh,soedenberg go make oceans 16 or 17 mr no sellout. -
I'm just saying.
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I like the casting.
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You're a gentleman and a scholar, Ghost of Nixon.
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I'm still an "alcoholic" if you want to know (I'm refering to Wonka's belief in those who drink Bacardi).What in the hell did you photoshop in order to get banned? I'm still not sure what it takes to get banned.Anyway, as for the 'shroomin, I wouldn't really do it in a crowded place, it never is really all that fun wondering if all the people around you are thinking you are on drugs. Although, I learned to use chop sticks while on 'shrooms at a nice little Thai place, and was lucid enough to leave a good tip.
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Only the king of prententious film students, the ones the run out to see every wes anderson pretent-u-thon film. Those flicks are as 2 dimensional as the framing. Stick the american express card up your butt wes. QUIRKLY = WIERD (UNFUNNY) HUMOR.
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Man, i bet some of those distributors that blew off purchase of this film are looking a gift horse in the mouth right about now.
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I guess that's why you quote him then, huh?
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but I think I'm going to catch this one solo. I remember the kind of hate I got from my friends after picking House of the Dead and the Science of Sleep.
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Richard, I'm gonna pray for you every night. Carl Marx is your hero? Dude evolution stems from hitler and communism, Jesus Christ is real, REPENT..and TRUST in jesus christ. Richard, i know you're probably going to ignore this blog, i want you to know that I used to be in the same thing, until i called out to the lord and was saved. It's real, there ARE 17 century chariots under the red sea, the sight of sodem and gomorrea is has millions of sulfuric balls that were rained onto the cities, and the ark is where it says it was in the bible, same cubic measurement.
STOP DISBELIEVING, HUMBLE YOURSELF FOR 30 SECONDS, and ASK JESUS TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS and trust in him. If someone told you to do something and promising to you that if you really meant it (its not that hard) that a supernatural experience unlike one you've never had will come upon you like a whirlwind, the only catch, humbling yourself, and asking god for forgiveness.
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Richard! Richard! The Tigers play tonight! ...and I never miss a game!
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I'd want to see this on some level if it was just the Rock and SMG fighting aliens. The rest... enh. I'll pass on Kelly's morality play.
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as Wild Palms, the cyberpunk miniseries Oliver Stone produced back in the 90s. I am woefully underwhelmed, and didn't think Donnie Darko was all that great. Sorry, emo kids.
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Asking Richard Kelly to repent? For what? Called on by the Lord, aye? What did he say exactly? Did He give you a sign, tasks to do, or something specifically enlightening? I also seek out a "supernatural experience" soon ... God bless DMT.
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What a fucking pretentious, whiny, angry, bitch that guy (or girl) is. Seriously. I actually agreed with him about something in one oif the talkbacks the other day and it made me feel sick. Hey animal, do you live in the LA area? Cause if you do I was wondering if we could meet some time so I can break your fucking nose. God what a dick.
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The Rock has done a lot of CRAP, but I really like him anyway. I keep waiting for him to do something that builds upon the promise of The Rundown but it just seems like it will never happen. He was freeking amazing in Be Cool, but that movie was so shitty any time he wasn't on screen I was afraid I might develop dysentery just by watching it.
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And "Oh Brother..." is fucking awesome. So a film's reception at Cannes should not constitute the final judgement of anything.
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about 30 seconds in when they showed the three leads. Timberlake looked cool as crazy army guy. The whole thing reminded me of Buckeroo Bonzai more than Brazil, and I hated BB. SMG looks weird plasticy, and seeing the rock repeated doing that siily nervous thing with his fingers up in prayer position like Don Knots as Mr. Chicken just was wrong. I wonder if he chants " Oh Dear, oh Dear,,,," whenever he does it.
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Kevin Smith? Buh-bye.
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so it looks great to me. but that is probably due to the fact that you could lay that version of wave of mutilation over norbit and it would instantly become more appealing. it truly is a great fucking version of a great fucking song....
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and it's really starting to grow on me. I still have no clue what it's about but I'm more excited to see it. I think it's starting to take over my brain. I hope there aren't any subliminal messages in the film. RICHARD KELLY IS GOD!
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Anyone else think the font of the title in the trailers seem kind of funky? Like something that would appear on a Snoop Dogg Prezentz DTV horror film. (He actually does have a line of those BTW)
Also, I still can't find Keven Smith. It's like better than the Waldo game. I think he's one of the laughing dykes at the tatoo parlor.
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that is a gar-on-tee
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And that's not a compliment. I saw the 'from the creator of Donnie Darko' and thought they must be fucking joking... NO ITS FUCKING TRUE... I just cant believe the guy who made that movie made this... THIS LOOKS FUCKING TERRIBLE.... IT LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING COMEDY TRYING TO BE SERIOUS WITHOUT ANY SEMBLANCE OF A PLOT!
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AFTER WATCHING THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE
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I not only love Solaris, but I also love The Royal Tenenbaums, so fuck you.
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..is what everyone else thinks about this film. I can't fucking wait. Wait a sec. Doesn't Seann have two N's?
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Well, thats ok, you can like those movies. I didn't say you couldn't like the films. It's your taste, I find them to be pretty pretentious. I mean comeon, really, how can you find entertainment in those films. I saw solaris in theatres and everyone walked out in the first 15. So what is that everyone is...missing...
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The Rock ... couldn't act his way out of a box. Seann William Scott ... couldn't act his way out of a box. Sarah Michelle Gellar ... couldn't act her way out of a box. Cheri Oteri ... couldn't act her way out of a box. Jon Lovitz ... couldn't act his way out of a box. Kevin Smith ... couldn't act his way out of a box. Why oh why would I want to watch a movie with horrible horrible actors, one-note comedians and action stars trying to do a surreal drama? Bad, bad casting choices.
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Movie looks good though...
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It's funny how when someone is against something that has merit for dogmatic reasons, they always say it stems from Hitler and the Nazis.. Scientologists do the same when they speak of their crusade against psychiatry. Christians like yourself say the idea of evolution stems from Hitler etc etc etc.
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This was the first secret screening of Fantastic Fest, so expect some reviews from Harry, Quint, etc. Interested to hear what they thought.
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Good find on the song!!!
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hey goddamn it, i dig him and his movies.. he was good in DH 4.0... i hope this is as good as it looks from the trailer..
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Well, hell. I thought I'd be one of the first. I _THINK_ they modified it from what the last review I saw said. But they didn't rebuild it from scratch unfortunately. I didn't see midgets. But It had the weirdness of Eraserhead combined with the plot devices of Repoman and the Ensemble cast of Pulp fiction. I did like how the stories wrapped around each other. But every so often, the movie just dived off the deep end, taking a plot turn that made no sense, for no other reason to take that turn. It had such promise and I had such high hopes for the movie when I saw all the stars involved, but it turned into a disoriented mess. If someone redid the last 30 minutes (christ, its over 2.5 hrs LONG, wtf?) and maybe built in a bit of consistency from time to time, forcing the characters into the postions they were in, vs having them look at all logical options then blow something out their butt to do. Even the end where the character won't commit suicide because he's a pimp, but then he... commits suicide, falling in love with himself??? wtf? This takes gay and/or narcissism to new levels film making. Both for the characters AND the director. If this were a horse, I'd have to have shot it in the first hour, but since it's a film, I kept waiting for it to redeem itself. I will make this prediction. If it's popular, people will compare it to Pulp Fiction. Otherwise, this is going into the Eraserhead, Repoman, Brazil archives. IF you like that type of stuff, this movie's for you. If not, you'll be disappointed by most everything in the movie. damn, I wish it had been better and closer to Sin City. I'm pretty sure that's what the director was aiming for. It just got lost.
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