Sept. 12, 2007, 12:47 a.m. CST
look at those pods, man.
Sept. 12, 2007, 12:53 a.m. CST
we never get a motherfucking thing. Even our pbs affiliate is shit. Ah well, it looks nice.
Sept. 12, 2007, 1:08 a.m. CST
Uh...did you go to page 2? Eugene KLSR Sat 6:00pm Medford KMVU Sat 6:00pm Portland KPDX Sat 10:00pm. I like Oregon.
Sept. 12, 2007, 1:10 a.m. CST
by Don Lockwood
Most of those shots are great, but the one that shows the ass-end of the Enterprise with the shuttle coming out just looks too damn fakey.
Sept. 12, 2007, 2:14 a.m. CST
are sometimes called pilots you know. FYI.<br>.
Sept. 12, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST
Starting with the shuttle departure they look like somebody needed to grind out some hours on this project. BTW if my astronomy is up to snuff, the last shot indicates they are flying pretty darn close to what is now considered a super massive black hole emitting huge, I mean life killing huge, radiation; so huge Tyson Chicken would use it to process bacteria and germ free chicken. Spock will never have kids :( and McCoy will be pissed. "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor not a serving of Tater Tots!"
Sept. 12, 2007, 3:53 a.m. CST
Bitch all you want, Paramount won't change what they're doing with the remasters. None of the ships have looked terribly real after they decided to ditch the real-life models, but I understand why they did it. But you folks who bitch about these things act like you still don't have the original episodes to fall back on. Maybe special effects got you into Star Trek. Maybe it was the concept, the ideals, or maybe even the stories provided. Regardless, they are giving you a choice. I enjoy the remasters, and I enjoy the originals. I do seem to wonder though... why all of this concern about updating the original series if they're simply going to create a Universe 2 reboot with the new Star Trek films? www.youtube.com/eyowzitgoin
Sept. 12, 2007, 4:31 a.m. CST
It's cool the way they are updating the effects on Star Trek, but the music still sounds so dated! Why don't they hire Klaus Badelt to come in and re-score these old episodes?
Sept. 12, 2007, 5:03 a.m. CST
The alien monsters in the original looked like guys wearing bearskin rugs. Any changes there?
Sept. 12, 2007, 5:21 a.m. CST
...But as much as these new remastered TOS episodes are an improvement from the original effects, (and the improvement vacillates from just OK to great), the New Voyages Enterprise model, texture and lighting effects on some of the fan-made episodes are much better. But overall, I give the TOS remix in-house effects crew good points for upgrading TOS. In house creative team -- I know you're working hard to preserve the spirit and context of the original FX, so keep it up, I'm watchin'. I'll definitely buy the DVD's when they come out. And New Voyages FX crew- you got heart and guts to go up against tremendous expectations. You also have my respect; complete the 5 year mission!
Sept. 12, 2007, 5:31 a.m. CST
If or when they might be releasing these remastered episodes on dvd?
Sept. 12, 2007, 6:38 a.m. CST
first couple of seasons are starting to show their age in terms of CGI (especially in relation to battle sequences or the Enterprise D orbiting various planets)
Sept. 12, 2007, 7:15 a.m. CST
I said "guh-LIE-lee-oh". Derrr...
Sept. 12, 2007, 7:16 a.m. CST
The shuttle bay looks like it's one fourth the size of the entire main section. I was never one of those "let's get our hands on the Enterprise plans!" geeks, so someone else will have to tell me if that's "right". How do they have room for all those decks in the saucer section, if the MAIN section is only about 5 stories tall?
Sept. 12, 2007, 7:34 a.m. CST
by Anakin Whoopass
Yeti: Converting TNG to HD is a bigger job because, not only are there 7 seasons instead of 3, but in the semi-digital days of the 80s and 90s they shot on film then transfered to low-def video before editing the scenes together. TNG episodes would have to be reassembled shot by shot in HD, while TOS episodes were complete on film to begin with. Supposedly they have done a test episode or two.
Sept. 12, 2007, 7:48 a.m. CST
Im sorry the modes have never looked real (except for the most recent BoP one, but thats because it WAS the Enterprise model they where allowed to use) and dont get me started on the Road Runner FX they gave the thing. These look 100% better than anything that fan fill could put out on their own without borrowing Paramounts work.
Sept. 12, 2007, 8 a.m. CST
With exception to the original Star Trek and Enterprise, I could never stand the fact that these characters were supposed to be explorers...but they lived on cruise liners. Machines that created anything out of thin air, transporters that beam them anywhere they want to go, and Holodecks to make a replica of any setting. They were pussies. And I could never get into the original ST because of the 60's futuretech stuff that was great at the time, but makes it complete retro fantasy now. That's why I thought Enterprise was going to kick ass, but then the captain ended up being a pussy, as well. So I guess the best combination would be Sisko commanding the Enterprise during the Enterprise show era...with writers that NEVER wrote for any of the star treks before (sick of recycled episodes, as well).
Sept. 12, 2007, 8:28 a.m. CST
they give a big light blur. :)
Sept. 12, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST
Encounter at Farpoint. Give me that 2-part pilot merged together with new effects. I'd rather have that any day than the Original Series remasters.
Sept. 12, 2007, 8:54 a.m. CST
An accretion disk.
Sept. 12, 2007, 9:06 a.m. CST
upgrade to dvr. It's an extra 9.99 a month you cheap fuck.
Sept. 12, 2007, 9:53 a.m. CST
by Midol Boy
The models were so much better. This is what ruined Star Wars. It look like they want to ruin Star Trek too. Sad. :(
Sept. 12, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST
The offscreen stuff and giant spear was about all you got I recall. A cool reaction shot with a bunch of those things lumbering around would be pretty frightening. And maybe a comparison shot where the thing is like 12-15-feet tall. Yep that'd make you think twice about going on shuttle missions. Haven't seen but a few of the remastered since they stopped making their way to itunes. To me the GCI models look scores better, but it's minor nip tuck--because they are either trying to do it on the cheap or are afraid of ticking off the purists by meddling too much. I say, the series is already available in their pure form cleaned up and all. That said, they should amp up wherever they can. Step up the space fighting, add some more music, knock out the background and add in some virtual sets, drop in some CGI creatures (like the Gorn, although the thing on Enterprise was horrible). To me these changes are only appealing to a segment of the current audience. If they want to try to reach a new audience with a 40-year-old series, they need to raise the stakes quite a bit.
Sept. 12, 2007, 10:11 a.m. CST
If you actually saw them they would be just another funny-forehead group of aliens.
Sept. 12, 2007, 10:11 a.m. CST
They went to all the effort to add the shuttle Columbia to the remastered shot inside the shuttle bay, but then left it off of the exterior shot showing Galileo leaving the ship. Why?
Sept. 12, 2007, 10:14 a.m. CST
I kant spel so gud.
Sept. 12, 2007, 10:26 a.m. CST
by Kid Z
... they'd be 20 FOOT TALL funny-forehead aliens!
Sept. 12, 2007, 11:24 a.m. CST
In the pic where the shuttle is exiting from the Enterprise, doesn't the shuttle look way too big relative to the ship (or conversely, doesn't the Enterprise look too small)?
Sept. 12, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST
That ship must really smell. 400 people packed into a starship the size of a Buick.
Sept. 12, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST
The reason the shuttle bay looks so big is because of foreshortening - things closer to the camera look bigger than things farther away. <p> http://tinyurl.com/2hrhla
Sept. 12, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST
by The Green Monster
Or was it Han?
Sept. 12, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST
by The Green Monster
Sorry for typo.
Sept. 12, 2007, 2:17 p.m. CST
makes the saucer section look like it's on crooked. I swear the nacelles are leaning one way and the SS is leaning the other!! Also, that navigation light over the Galileo looks HUGE!! Unless it's a tractor beam enclosure (or something).
Sept. 12, 2007, 2:59 p.m. CST
not a scoop...just interesting with some funny bumper stickers http://tinyurl.com/27yboh
Sept. 12, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST
It's Columbus, as in the explorer. Goes hand-in-hand with the naming of the Galileo.
Sept. 12, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST
by Aphex Twin
Turns out Sulu was queer...it wouldn't be the Enterprise without a queer on board.
Sept. 12, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST
The trend in Hollyweird: make everything crappy. <p> Because their brains are crap!!!!!
Sept. 12, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST
Good catch. Maybe that's a shot of Columbus leaving the bay to search for Galileo?
Sept. 12, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST
that little tiny ship takes up a quarter of the enterprise! its hard to believe that a whole crew lives on that thing.
Sept. 12, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST
Just so we can see how it looks.
Sept. 12, 2007, 6:12 p.m. CST
by Mister Man
"Returned from Holiday"?????
Sept. 12, 2007, 7:29 p.m. CST
by Real Deal
Yup! There's no contest. The new FX make the storyline more interesting. They give you more of a feeling of what's going on. Also they make these old stories that I've watched since I was 13 back in the 60's new again! The thing I wondered about was why didn't they do more? Then it dawned on me. That adding tons of detail over the surface of the old model would look out of place with the rest of the show. They do just enough to match the rest of what's going on. Great job guys! I can't wait for the DVD!
Sept. 12, 2007, 9:34 p.m. CST
Yeah, that clashes a tad.
Sept. 12, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST
Your comment about Quinto being "queer" is a real downer. Star Trek is supposed to be about the triumph of all mankind, not just the "non-queers". I mean, have you ever even SEEN the show? Do you know what the Vulcan IDIC means? Infinite Diversity, Infinite Combinations. Grow up. www./youtube.com/eyowzitgoin
Sept. 12, 2007, 11:21 p.m. CST
If that's possible.
Sept. 13, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST
by Bill Clay
It's sort of pointless to have the space shots look modern, and then the on-planet shots look like something from Lost In Space.
Sept. 13, 2007, 12:51 a.m. CST
by Bill Clay
I realize that they have to make room for more commercials these days, but some of these new episodes have been cut up so bad that the plot is almost unintelligible at times. Characters refer to key events that we never saw, because it was chopped out to make room for another commercial break.
Sept. 13, 2007, 4:17 a.m. CST
ROTFL! To quote my gay friend Shaun, "You was wrong fo' that!" But seriously, I don't give a damn if a gay person plays a straight character or not, as long as they get the character right.
Sept. 13, 2007, 9:02 a.m. CST
by Real Deal
That's why I can't wait for the DVD. I've downloaded some of the episodes on iTunes and they're complete and unedited. If you watch them you can see that they even edited out some of the new FX!
Sept. 13, 2007, 9:10 a.m. CST
Theoretically they are but iTunes hasn't added a new episode to the list in quite a while. A lot of the newer remanstered episodes are inexplicably missing in action. I've been waiting for the Doomsday Machine episode for months now.
Sept. 13, 2007, 10:43 a.m. CST
Ok, fair enough.
Sept. 13, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST
by Kid Z
...aired the eps, but had, and still have some kind of technical problem which wiped out their HD broadcast, which sort of defeats the whole purpose. Then, they canned Trek in favor of endless repeats of Everybody Loves Raymond. (Remember back in the 90s when you could switch to any channel in the country at any given time of the day and there was a 95% chance the show that'd be on would be Wings?... now that show is Everybody Loves Raymond!)
Sept. 13, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST
"The reason the shuttle bay looks so big is because of foreshortening - things closer to the camera look bigger than things farther away." Um ... thanks for the link to the wikipedia entry on persepctive, because I come from another dimension and have never before noticed this foreshortened effect you speak of. But seriously, foreshortening has nothing to do with this. Forget about length; look at the WIDTH of the Enterprise compared with the WIDTH of the shuttle. Do you seriously beieve it's just a few yards from one side of the Enterprise to the other?
Sept. 13, 2007, 9:01 p.m. CST
...would be "quasar".
Sept. 14, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST
... would be "Set quasars on stun!"
Sept. 14, 2007, 4:01 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
...especially the first one; the orginal looks more photorealistic. What the hell are these FX guys on?