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JUSTICE LEAGUE going down under with the help of a mighty big geek producer?

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. The folks at have a bit of interesting news on the upcoming JUSTICE LEAGUE movie from George Miller. It's no surprise that they found out it will be shooting in Australia. I think even HAPPY FEET was completely handled in Australia, Miller's home country. The real bit of interesting news, though, is that Barrie Osborne, producer of MATRIX and THE LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY is onboard as producer for this flick. This project absolutely fascinates me. Doing a superhero movie with Motion Capture (if the rumors are true) could lead to something amazing if Miller goes for a greatly stylized flick and steers away from the photo-real. Even the photo-real would be sweet, but there's more of the dead-eyes danger zone to contend with. But with an incredibly smart and experienced producer set and a visionary director helming, I'm sure we'll get something spectacular.

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  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by Proman1984

    Indian Jones 4 will rule!

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by vettebro

    Oh Yeah...

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:20 p.m. CST

    And no CGI in Indy 4. Shot on Film too!

    by Proman1984

    Real Stuntman!

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:20 p.m. CST

    It would be nice...

    by BabatuFerguson

    ...if they could do this live-action, but they could never make that happen.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by vettebro


  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:21 p.m. CST

    I'd still rather them not make this

    by Datascream

    but I guess they need a launch title to spin off some more characters.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:21 p.m. CST

    I HENCEFORTH COIN KOCS as official Indy 4 accroym.

    by Proman1984

    KOCS (for King of Crystal Scull) is teh awesome title.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Skull*... stupid typo.

    by Proman1984

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:26 p.m. CST

    According to IESB it's not CGI anymore

    by Robots In Das Guys

    Now it's a live action project. Of course, they are the ones who said it would be CGI first, so go figure.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:27 p.m. CST


    by the Green Gargantua

    Seems like a no brainer to me. They handle it like Beowulf in the style of Alex Ross and they have my money for sure.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:29 p.m. CST


    by pipergates

    its going to be amazing

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:29 p.m. CST

    I agree Green Garantua

    by tristeele

    Id love it. This is a movie I dont want to see screwed up.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Robots In Das Guys, my point was that it will be a

    by Proman1984

    CGI heavy movie not that it would be all CGI. Plus the article talked about motion capture which implies computer generated effects.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:33 p.m. CST

    only parts will be cgi which is great too

    by pipergates

    enhanced elements in a live setting

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:35 p.m. CST

    so glad they got Miller and not Jackson or Raimi

    by pipergates

    those hacks would have made a mess

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Of course. Would be hard to pull this off without CGI

    by Proman1984


  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    pipergates, WTF?

    by Robots In Das Guys

    Jackson would have been amazing. He was my pick. But he would have probably declined....Fuck! Oh well, Miller will do.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    More Flash, Less Substance -

    by jimbojones123

    Is this going to be Direct to DVD?

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Better not be live action

    by Dark Knight Lite

    Bale is Bats. Routh is Supes. PERIOD. Anything other than CGI, Motion Capture, or whatever, and this could get pretty ridiculous pretty darn fast.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:50 p.m. CST

    robots in das...

    by pipergates

    jackson is talented sure, but he makes some glaring self indulgent mistakes. i think miller is much better, he can handle different styles and remain consistent. and his action is realistic and badass, jackson's action does weer into the ridiculous.

  • Sept. 9, 2007, 11:59 p.m. CST

    i dont agree Bats is Bale, JLA should be "elseworld"

    by pipergates

    i mean Bale is the best Bats ever walked the face of the earth, but the gritty realistic look they have created with BB will not fit at all with the superpowers and flashy bright suits of the JLA. i hope they get different actors -at least for Bats- and makes this movie a whole different thing, something more juvenile and fantastic. how is Bale going to fit back into the BB universe after participating in something like this? i'd rather he keeps making the gritty adult version.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:14 a.m. CST

    I'm not sure on this.....

    by The Dum Guy

    I'm afraid this won't turn out so well, but who knows. I do hope they can get Routh and Bale to reprise their characters, but then again there is the whole continuity thing... I don't know, I just never thought this would ever happen, like the whole Batman vs. Superman, it just sounds too epic. But, I hope this thing kicks ass, that is if it is ever made.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Kevin Feige at Comicon hinted...

    by thevision

    ...the Avengers will include RDJ, Edward Norton and whoever they get to play Thor and Captain America. Marvel Studios is independent and they are going for broke with The Mighty Avengers. Judging from the trailer at Hall H, Iron Man is going to be the movie to beat summer '08. The Hulk reboot looks good so far and AICN has reported the Thor script is brilliant. Marvel Studios can do an Avengers movie their way, they don't have to answer to a corporate parent. Unfortunately, there is no "DC Films," its all WB or AOL/Time Warner whatever the hell they call themselves. The suits are bean counters and don't understand the Justice League has to include Superman and Batman- yes, that means Brandon Routh and Christian Bale. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I think they're going to go with second tier like Green Lantern, Flash and Hawkman.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:34 a.m. CST


    by godhelpus

    this should be good if Miller is involved. I betting they are they are going to make an Alex Ross painting or two come to life...

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:36 a.m. CST


    by Mike_D

    you know you want it.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:38 a.m. CST


    by Wilclas

    The whole JLA concept is ridiculous... C´mon, why Superman need any help? He´s SUPERMAN! HE CAN SOLVE EVERYTHING! C´MON!

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST


    by Wilclas

    ...C´mon Harry, this is ridiculous already... At least EXPLAIN TO US!! AAAAAGH!!

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:47 a.m. CST

    This could work if they went with...

    by The Dum Guy

    Keeping this inline with the (possible) continuity of BB and SR, and have Supes possibly meet some kind of demise in the SR sequel, which would have Batman becoming the eminent super-hero, and since he isn't really super he could round up some others that are...<br><br>I don't think that would happen, but with the DTV cartoon movie Superman-Doomsday, I wonder if the studios are seeing if audiences will warm up to the idea of the Death of Superman on the big screen?

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:49 a.m. CST

    All CGI has been debunked

    by Bass Ackwards

    I know its been said but looking over the tslkback it bears repeating, this isn't going to be CGI or motion capture, just live action with some heavy CGI elements, or, just like every other summer fx film. Anyways, I love comics and even like the Justice League, but i dont think its a concept that'll make for a good flick.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Hey, there was Ross art plastered all over the art dept

    by half vader

    on Superman Returns, but it's not like it had any real bearing on the film at all in the end (especially his look), did it?

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Was ANYONE screaming for....

    by lovethatjoker

    ...any DC heroes onscreen apart from Batman and Superman? Those are the only two that anyone gives a shit about anyway and they both have their own franchises now. This screams illogical to me. It's nothing more than WB getting cold feet on the new underwhelming Supes franchise and scrounging for some piece of shit Flash/Green Lantern/Aquaman/Hawk Girl/Wonder Woman B-list would be franchises to pick up the slack. Fuck Hollywood, man. I hope this flops.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 1:52 a.m. CST

    i really hate motion capture

    by Colier Rannd

    plain live action would be better

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Routh was perfect as Supes

    by Bellock

    Bring him back !

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Superman is not Brandon Routh

    by messi

    that guy sucked balls. had about 5 lines. He looked more like a guy dressed as Superman. I don't know what Welling would be like as Superman but I know he absolutely nails Post-Crisis Clark Kent and has a muscular body worthy of Superman, not the pansy like Routh.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Check out this video.

    by ELGordo It's for the Marvel Ultimate Alliance and it looks fucking fantastic. CGI is the only way they can pull off hokey characters like Thor and Loki and others. I saw this in HD first and this Youtube video doesn't come close to showing the detail that was in the characters. I would pay to see a Superhero done this way.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 3:33 a.m. CST


    by reflecto

    Smallville is a fucking embarrassment to the Superman mythos.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 4:03 a.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    That is, until someone takes a chance and REALLY updates this ancient franchise and casts Dwayne Johnson as The Man of Steel. Supes needs to ditch it's constant retro vibe on the big screen and be modernized. While Bats should be hurled back in time a few hundred years, possibly moved to a Europeon "Gotham".

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 4:23 a.m. CST


    by OtisSpofford

    I've been right there with you on lots of Smallville posts, but I have to disagree with The Rock as Supes - Chris Reeve had the gravitas of the Man of Steel (your "Kermit" label of his CK notwithstanding) - I wanted to like Routh, but he is too young and Singer just retreaded the Donner film - too bad - why not do something new with Brainiac or The Parasite or one of the other cool villains... And they should take a cue from the comics and make Metropolis the "city of tomorrow" - perfect anti-Gotham. As for Batman, that franchise is finally looking pretty cool - not perfect, but getting close - just wish FOR ONCE they could make a cool Batmobile!

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 4:26 a.m. CST

    DC - what's your fucking problem?

    by OtisSpofford

    You have great heroes in Green Lantern, The Flash, the Legion, Wonder Woman, etc etc etc - and yet Marvel is KICKING YOUR ASS - their Hulk may have sucked in some ways, but it beat the hell out of your Catwoman - c'mon! If it's the suits, well, I guess we are doomed to promises broken and just retreads of the big two... Hopefully Watchmen will kick butt.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 4:48 a.m. CST

    perfect wonder woman

    by marv42134213

    I know I am going to get slammed, but I think the perfect Wonder Woman is Padma Lakshmi from top chef. Before you tear me to shreads. Take a look at her and picture her with the tiara, golden arm bracelets, golden rope and perfect features. I know she isn't a proven actress, but I think she would capture the beauty and levity needed for Wonder Woman. Please, before you kill me in the talkbacks, take a minute to truly look at her. She has a great personality and can be serious when needed to be. I really think she could nail this role. What do you think?

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 5:15 a.m. CST


    by Judge Briggs

    Love the dialog!

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 6:21 a.m. CST

    So is this going to be more like Beowulf or 300?

    by Yeti

    In term of visual style?

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Just let Dini/Timm adapt their JL TV series

    by Osmosis Jones

    It'd be easy to create a storyline that'd fit into the show's continuity while still rewarding new viewers. I want more Hawkgirl, dammit!

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:09 a.m. CST


    by ironic_name

    i thought this would be a don murphy article, thank GOD its not.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:11 a.m. CST


    by ironic_name

    renaissance was cool, make it like that, or the animated series.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:15 a.m. CST

    The CGI rumor was debunked weeks ago.

    by CaptGrogan

    The movie IS live action. Once again AICN is there with the scoop. **rolls eyes**

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST

    If batman's in this, please for the love of god

    by access virus

    Give him white eyes! Either weird lens things over the cowl eye pieces or freaky white contacts, I don't care, I just want to see a white eyed batman for once.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:32 a.m. CST

    according to imdb

    by ironic_name

    routh is supes. tough shit.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:38 a.m. CST


    by wolvenom


  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Obviously It Can't Be Live Action, DUH ...

    by cowboyone

    ...and the "dead eyes" thing CAN be corrected EASILY (PIXAR) ... but they NEED to get Bruce Timm on board as a consultant ASAP. (See opening credits to JLU, Batman, etc.)

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 8:34 a.m. CST


    by wolvenom

    THAT WOULD BE LIKE DROOLING OVER MY DEAD EYED JENNA JAMESON BLOW UP DOLL!..... oh wait I do drool all over my dead eyed jenna jameson blow up doll.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9 a.m. CST

    Batman and Superman do not HAVE to be in this

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    And, unless it is a brief cameo at or near the end, they WON'T be in this. Do you have any idea how many versions of this team have existed without Bats/Supes??? Try taking a look at a copy of Justice League of America #1 from 1960. Jeez.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9:12 a.m. CST

    This is gonna suck.....

    by BetaRayBill07

    I'm sorry I'd love to give an endorsement at this point. However, how can you have a Superman movie series w/Brandon Routh happening and Batman happening with Christian Bale, and have different actors playing around in this movie? Sorry, just can't have this going on- continuity is essential. Have the two of them involved, cast Wonder Woman and Flash with stars, and then spin them off into their own flicks.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9:20 a.m. CST


    by BetaRayBill07

    Sorry, my copy got used in the guinea pigs cage, but who besides true comic fans are gonna see this without Supes or Batman? Yes, a lot, but not nearly as many. You need them to kick off the series.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Superman Returns had a lot of CGI Superman in it

    by teethgnasher

    Anytime he flew, that was CGI.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9:26 a.m. CST

    The facts

    by JaggedSac

    The movie is not entirely CG, only the aliens. Doens't matter who is playing Batman, they said that Bruce will not be seen.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST

    CGI/motion-capture can give us MOVING graphic novels...

    by JDanielP the style of popular artists. Imagine the visual style of artists like Simon Bisley, Dave McKean, Brian Bolland, Steve Rude, Neal Adams, Alex Ross, etc. (the talent-list goes on an on) ...all coming to life on the big screen and/or in video screens (in passive and/or interactive entertainment). There is no limit to the possibilities.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    Dang it. I meant to say...

    by JDanielP

    ...that such artistic style coming to life on the big screen and/or in "video games" continues to become more of a possibillity every day.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Not all Mo-Cap! (I thought we'd already settled this)

    by Abin Sur

    They are using motion capture technology to realize the OMACs on screen but the film itself is live action. Several sites have confirmed this - I have to admit I'm disappointed in the AICN coverage (or lack thereof) of any JLA news. Pretty much EVERY other geek website with credentials has talked about JLA A LOT more.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Motion Capture

    by Philvis

    I read a couple weeks back it would be used for the underwater sequences with Aquaman, not for the entire movie. AICN has been REAL slack on reporting any Justice League tidbit/rumors. If it was that crappy Blair Witch monster movie they have helped to hype, they would be all over it like stink on shit.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 10:51 a.m. CST

    I hope it really is llive action (with motion-capture)

    by JDanielP

    I mentioned long ago... that to realize (for the big screen) a graphic novel like KINGDOM COME, that background characters could/should be motion-captured. Alex Ross created some incredible images for the graphic novel KINGDOM COME, with multiple characters in numberous action shots. For such shots to be taking place in live action, with all the visual effects involved, it only makes sense to have background characters motion-captured. So, if that's the way they are going with the JLA, I'm not surprised. In fact, I'm thrilled for such a "live action" approach. In this day, it only makes sense. And such a flick can be quite spectacular. (I posted such possibilities years ago, here at AICN).

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 10:58 a.m. CST

    JDanielP and ElGordo are correct ... CG is the way

    by cowboyone

    There is certainly ample evidence that this can be done BETTER with CGI and mo-cap (and AWESOME voice talent) than with live action. You just need a hungry, kick ass director/producer team and a decent story that can do Justice (get it) to all those characters.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Did anyone see the trailer for Beowulf?

    by Kid Z

    ... "I... AM... BEOWULFFFF!" Little dirivative, ain't it? So I suppose we'll have Supes proclaiming, "THIS... IS... METROPOLIS!!!" at some point...

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 11:43 a.m. CST

    David Borenaz as Green Lantern,or Batman

    by liljuniorbrown

    That would be awesome. I just don't know who would be a kick ass Supes since Routh or Welling won't be in it. Maybe they could have Brendon Fraser in the role, I think he would do a good job. This movie will suck if there are no big villans, bring on the Legion of Doom.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST

    reflecto you fucking idiot

    by messi

    the mythos has been changed so far 6 times, he has 6 fucking canonical origins, one which is yet to be told. Shows how fucking retarded you are. it all depends whether smallville is good myth or not and it is good. Superman comics are generally terrible, and the characters given 'comic book' lives and origins, Smallville gives the characters 3 dimensions, especially Lex Luthor. No more 2d origin. Fuck you cunt.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST


    by BacardiRocky

    Justice League of Australia? I have been down under, have family there, but dammit, I was pissed to find out Superman Returns was filmed there, Wolverine is going to be filmed there aloong with Magneto....WTF, why can't we film our own AMERICAN franchises in AMERICA? Won't be surprised if they film G.I. J.O.E. there as well.(Real Australian Hero!!)Bet they drop the America and just call them the Justice League. What next, change Captian America to....Captain Planet? nevermind, already taken.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST



    Please don't do this WB!

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 2:18 p.m. CST


    by Abin Sur

    Keep it moving WB!

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    It worked in Happy Feet

    by Big Bad Clone

    For a minute or two, I seriously though the humans in Happy Feet were animated as well.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 2:51 p.m. CST

    :::BacardiRocky::: I think they film there...

    by The Dum Guy

    To save money.<br><br>I'm not sure, but if that is the case, I wonder what Superman Returns budget would've been if it was made in the States?

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Since Clooney was Batman

    by OtisSpofford

    Let's get the rest of the Ocean's 11 (12 or 13) cast to be the JLA... Carl Reiner and Elliot Gould can be cranky Earth II Bats and Supes...

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Anticipating this one...

    by Philvis

    I have a feeling this movie will be done as good as it can be. Considering the tremendous success of Batman Begins, and the horrible Catwoman movie, I think DC/WB will want to make this one right. I think they will use this to showcase they are not just a one trick pony with the success of Batman. I'm pulling for Tom Welling as Supes...he really has stepped things up the past couple seasons of Smallville. As long as they don't go the Marvel leather route, I think things will turn out good. Fingers crossed....

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Beowulf with flop.

    by hallmitchell

    I know alot of people into fantasy. I don't know anyone looking forward to that film. Casting. Bats - Eric Bana Supes - Ron Moss Wonder Woman - Xena Green Lantern - Michael Biehn Flash - Ben Affleck Villain - Brainiac - Nic Cage.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    The multivese on film

    by Cooch Inspector

    I've read that this thing is live action also. I liked Marvel Comics Presents: Bruce Bond but honestly it didn't really have that DC feel. I think the next one will feel more like Batman to me hopefully. So I don't mind another version of Bats on screen. One more fantastical and akin to the comics and not one that's really grounded. We could have 2 versions of Batman and the fans who like both will be happy and so will the ones who hate what Nolan did as they have an option. As long as this movie doesn't affect the Batman or Superman franchises than why not? I watch Smallville only in extremely small doses if ever at all. But I think that Tom Welling guy has come into his own he has much more the presence of the post-crisis Clark who I always liked than Dean Cain ever did. So I would like to see him as Supes somehow it doesn't even have to be tied into Smallville. I just think he's very familiar to the audience they might wanna grab onto this. The ones who thought Superman is back & behind on Child Support was an insult. Basically the new generation, they've known him as Clark Kent for almost 10 years. They'd easily flock and he has the look for it I think with a director like Miller he'd give a good performance. Boreanaz would make a cool Batman but he should be an established Batman to distance him from Bale as much as possible. Also needs a completely different suit, I don't know if the oval should be brought back but at least use grey and black and don't make it look as futuristic as Nolan's Batman.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Want to make the perfect JLA movie?

    by Pops Freshemeyer

    Get Matt and Trey to film it, and make sure they use puppets. enough of this motion capture Polar Express bullshit...

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 6:12 p.m. CST

    And Bruce Willis as Lex Luthor......

    by The Dum Guy

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Classic JLA

    by Blue Meanie 1138

    Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Red Tornado, Hawkman, Atom, the Elongated Man, and the Flash. From the 70's and early 80's. Accept no substitutes.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Perfect JLA lineup

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Black Canary, Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter. Gotta do something about MM's costume....Batman and Superman can join the league at the end of the 1st adventure.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 7:40 p.m. CST


    by CarmillaVonDoom

    Either Darkseid or some form of the Injustice Gang. Whoever mentioned Bruce Willis for Luthor was pretty smart; that is prob. the direction they are going in.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Motion Capture?

    by TheGreenStyle

    Will the whole movie be motion capture or will it be live action with motion-capture special effects?

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Clancy Brown for Luthor.

    by TheGreenStyle

    Animated or live action, you know it to be true.

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 9:28 p.m. CST

    This just in...

    by GaiustheBrave

    I heard they're going low-tech artistic. There will now be NO cgi in the movie at all. Instead, at the appropriate time, a caption will appear describing what you should be imagining. They will be making up for it by casting pornstars and keeping the story light, all climaxing in a massive JLA orgy. Be sure to stay for the end credits, where Aquaman will get Japanese-kinky with Wonder Woman by calling a monster octopus. By the way, whoever said that Routh was too young to be Superman, I agree wholeheartedly with you. I was watching it on HBO, and I thought he'd be perfect if he were ten-fifteen years older. As it is, Lois and Superman look like they had to run straight from high school to make it to set to film. The scene where Lois and her son are on Lex's yacht in the main, piano room, didn't it strike you more as a sister holding her baby brother?

  • Sept. 10, 2007, 10:56 p.m. CST

    i have faith in Miller.

    by future help

    hell, he really brought a pig to life with Babe. AND he damn sure brought kick-ass action to life with the Road Warrior.

  • Sept. 11, 2007, 12:59 a.m. CST

    I want to see some forays into a stylized look

    by DoctorWho?

    ...with this Mo Cap. There's so much fantasy literature and comic book fodder left out there to work with. I wouldn't mind seeing the next 10 comic adaptations in this format. How about Elric of Melnibone' or King Conan unburdened by big name faces? Or a redux of The Fantastic Four done in that Kirby 60's style? Sure, this is all very narrow fanboy territory...but such potential.

  • Sept. 11, 2007, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Bacardi & an honest question about why jlA?

    by half vader

    Bacardi for exactly the same reason things get made in Canada, which is only a few miles away, geographically speaking. Or England. Or New Zealand (the whole 3 LOTR movies only cost 260m to make - do you think that would happen in America?). Silly. And why exactly is filmmaking exclusive to southern California? <p> And can someone tell me why the Justice League is specifically American (even in the comics)? This is a straight question - I never read the comic. As a sidenote, I personally don't have a huge problem with Supes not saying "the American way" these days as even though the origin of that comes from patriotism, it exists outside of the actual character's motivations and you can't argue that universally (I mean that literally) admirable traits can be specifically attributed to America (and no-one else by it's inference). I'd argue that "the American Way" means a whole bunch of clashing definitions, especially these days, and are those definitions of and for the government, people or both? See what I'm getting at? The people may have been one behind the government when Supes was new and the war was on, but it's not the same now. And there's never been a bigger divide between America being "powerful" and America being "great". No matter what some confused souls on the TBs think, it doesn't automatically follow that they're the same thing. <p> Sure he may be the "ultimate American immigrant" (like other countries haven't done the same thing), but him being an alien is also precisely why he wouldn't ignore a cry for help from beyond America's borders. Besides, he doesn't actually live there all the time anyway! What, just because he lands there he's not allowed to help anyone else? He's been 'claimed'? Even if you subscribe to the idea that Clark is his true identity and therefore he's "all-American", he STILL should curtail his efforts to only his own country? Sort of seems stupid to impose moral limits on the idea of being a straight-out superhero. And he IS the prototypical superhero. He's not Batman. <p> Again, why is the Justice League (within the context of the story) an American thing? Is it just because they're based there (sometimes)? Or just a sports-influenced name which mean no more internally than "World's Finest"? Considering they've got their fair share of Non-Americans and Aliens, what's the deal? Have there always been other Justice Leagues for other specific countries? Yes I did look it up, but I'm trying to divine whether it was something outside of the stories initially. I know about JL Europe and Elite but that seemed to come decades later. Besides which, isn't plain "justice League" the general usage within the book? <p> If anyone can fill me in on an honest question without flaming me out of existence I'd appreciate it.

  • Sept. 11, 2007, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Half Vader, a response...

    by Abin Sur

    First of all, none of us have any idea if the movie will be called "Justice League of America" or simply "Justice League." As to WHY JLA? Why NOT JLA? Why must everything be revised nowadays? That is what the comics began as, and that's how so many of us remember them. Why is it offensive to refer to them as the Justice League OF America? It's not like they're the Justice League FOR America...borders were not important - they've had a satellite headquarters for a LONG time. I think the notion that if it's helping the world it can't be American is way off base - not to get political, but it's America (in the real world) that spends more money than anyone else to come to the aid of other people and other countries. Back to the comics - there are plenty of trade paperbacks out covering the entire range of the JLA's adventures, and if you checked a few of those out I think you'd find that being FROM America is not such a bad thing.

  • Sept. 11, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST

    I don't think I articulated that very well Abin.

    by half vader

    I was just sort of trying to get at whether originally it was America for a story reason in the internal world of the comic itself, or an external thing in that the creators thought it was a cool name. They changed it from Society to League which has nothing to do with the characters and everything to do with sports teams having Leagues. Also, don't read my comments as being straight-out anti-American. <p> Not that many pay attention to my posts, but any who do would know that I often post as a Devil's Advocate, for want of a better word, and not neccessarily because those are the total of my beliefs. I'm just challenging the status quo. As in: if they're not from America, or based in America, or confined to America, why name them Justice League of AMERICA? And it was more to do with the early stuff, as it seems decades later they did build it into the story with different Leagues in different places. I was just hoping for a concise answer without having to read all that stuff. It's not that I don't generally do a bit of research even on TBs. Cool? <p> Thanks for the reply.

  • Sept. 11, 2007, 12:02 p.m. CST

    No problem Vader...what's the other half, BTW?

    by Abin Sur

    Not half Jar Jar I hope.

  • Sept. 11, 2007, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Out of curiousity...

    by Trusty

    Why do people think the public can't properly distinguish the difference between three separate film franchises? Is there no room for all of them in live action settings?

  • Sept. 12, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST


    by half vader

    Just a lame injoke. I'm 5'6" and I got the Empire Vader helmet years ago (much better than the Ep3 one, but too bad they never pulled one from the Ep4 mold as that's the 'meanest' looking and best designed). So basically I put it on for a larff and was essentially half a Vader. <p> Then you log on to some site and have to think some handle up. That was the best I could do on the spot. Sort of embarrassing considering I have a 'creative' job (and could only come up with yet another SW username)! I think my favourite ever name on AICN was Paddy O'Furniture. Whatever happened to him?

  • Sept. 16, 2007, 12:13 a.m. CST

    I think I'd prefer to see it

    by MikeEllis

    I think I'd prefer to see it cast with relative unknowns who are right for the parts. The characters will attract an audience without big names. Bale is good with the right script, but Routh was a mannequin in a costume. Paul Tefler, the guy from HERCULES, should be The Boyscout of Steel.

  • Sept. 22, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Kocs is a perfect abbreviation for a really bad title..

    by Seph_J


  • Sept. 22, 2007, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Abin Sur....

    by Seph_J

    its also America which spends more money than any other country on war and destruction. Not to get political indeed.

  • Sept. 22, 2007, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Also, IMDB doesn't list anything under cast...

    by Seph_J

    ... I know the IMDB isn't exactly accurate, but it does give this as the synopsis: "Green Lantern, Green Arrow, and others of the JLA must deal with the expulsion of Batman and the death of Superman at the hands of the monstrous Doomsday." So with any luck, Mr Routh, and the shitty character that is Superman will not be in this film. No offence Brandon, you didn't create the character.