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Merrick here...
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Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here.
Sure enough, the official INDIANA JONES site has confirmed that INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL will be the title of the fourth film when it is released next summer.
What's fascinating about all of this is how everything I've heard about this film... EVERYTHING... makes it sound like they're basically just using the Frank Darabont script that Lucas made so many comments about a few years ago. For a script that was so far from ready, it sure seems like Lucas was happy to cannibalize it for the final version.
I'm sure we'll have more details for you in the months ahead, as this thing's basically wrapped up and ready to head into post now.
Here's the original report Merrick ran earlier:
Merrick here...
So, my son comes running into the room while I'm eating dinner and tells me that Shia LaBeouf was just on the VMAs (Video Music Awards) on MTV.
While presenting an award, Shia indicated he'd been sworn to secrecy by Lucas and Spielberg regarding details of the next INDIANA JONES movie...then went on to note he was in Vegas...and he is now 21...so...
Shia said...
...the film...
...is called...
INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, that's what Shia called it...for whatever it's worth.
I'm going back to my dinner now. Who says MTV is good for nothing these days?
Sure enough, the official INDIANA JONES site has confirmed that INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL will be the title of the fourth film when it is released next summer.
What's fascinating about all of this is how everything I've heard about this film... EVERYTHING... makes it sound like they're basically just using the Frank Darabont script that Lucas made so many comments about a few years ago. For a script that was so far from ready, it sure seems like Lucas was happy to cannibalize it for the final version.
I'm sure we'll have more details for you in the months ahead, as this thing's basically wrapped up and ready to head into post now.
Here's the original report Merrick ran earlier:
Merrick here...
So, my son comes running into the room while I'm eating dinner and tells me that Shia LaBeouf was just on the VMAs (Video Music Awards) on MTV.
While presenting an award, Shia indicated he'd been sworn to secrecy by Lucas and Spielberg regarding details of the next INDIANA JONES movie...then went on to note he was in Vegas...and he is now 21...so...
Shia said...
...the film...
...is called...
INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, that's what Shia called it...for whatever it's worth.
I'm going back to my dinner now. Who says MTV is good for nothing these days?
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He's everywhere, but even he couldn't save Britney's train wreck of a performance at the VMA's tonight. Sheez.
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Huh.
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Seriously. This movie is about exciting as the next Grumpy Old Men film.
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ove the title
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Third
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You had to bring your son into it. haha
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It could be for real, but MTV has no credibility.
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am i right haters, or am i right!
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are we sure?
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Where to begin?
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Kinda whack but kinda awesome. It has a real B-movie feel to it but isn't that the inspirato. I can feel that the title is gonna get some guff and people like "wha?" but it makes me wonder what the hell is THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL?! I wanna know... Sounds cool to me.
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I bet he's fucking with us. Thats one of the alleged titles, but everyone knows the next indy film will be called Indiana Jones and the (insert old joke here)
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like they did for Batman Forever. Sweeeeeet.
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Holding a sceptor with a purple crystal at the end, and sporting diamond earrings?
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If Munich is any indication, then The Beard is back. I have no worries about this one.
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HELLO
George Lucas and Spielberg did this already, with DISNEY
Temple of the Crystal Skull at Tokyo DisneySea:
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But it's true - and of all the potential titles we heard for this movie, I have to say this one is the most kick-ass. Thank you Shia! Now apologize for Transformers.
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Herring. Wake up people. Nothing to see here. Move along.
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I was really hoping for INDIANA JONES AND THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS. That was an awesome title for me... So full or possibilities... This? Not so much.
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That has alot of potential...pretty darn good title!
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This cannot be said enough times, and for the sake of those of you who wish to share this news, please avoid sounding like an idiot and calling him "SHE-uh". The correct pronunciation of his name is "SHY-uh".
Also, Demi Moore is not "Demy", its "dem-EEE". Thank you and you are welcome. -
Get it right!
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... I'm betting this is a joke. No way Paramount and Spielberg and Lucas decide to announce this via Shia at an awards show.
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Shia's a funny guy. ...He was joking, right?
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In keeping with the "In Search Of..." vibe.
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i love it. it sounds cool and is still a bit campy, serialized.
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Awesome! This gives me a good vibe. And yeah Spielberg owns me :)!
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eh, whatever, blow me.
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And this is the FIRST and the LAST time I will attempt to make an Indy Title joke.
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That in and of itself is a long title! It sounds OK, but I think Shia was just having some fun. INDIANA JONES AND THE CITY OF THE GODS is a perfect title and I hope they go with that one.
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There's no way they'd use a plot device featured in two separate episodes of Stargate, not even George Lucas would stoop that low...would he?
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"That was my CRYSTAL SKULL! I'm so wasted!"
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TGRI, yo
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And crystal, its a bit shit. But at least Indy is back in his wheelchair.
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Anyone see Firewall? Jesus.
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I thought the guy wasn't a day older than 60'ish....
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Is Billy Zane guest starring as the Phantom?
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As confirmed by Spilberg Films here:
http://www.spielbergfilms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=104295&posted=1#post104295
I will take Steven Awalt word over Moriarty's any day. Sorry Mori.
Also, watch the annoncement video here:
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1569264/20070909/story.jhtml?rsspartner=rssYahooNewscrawler
Feel free to update the site, Merrick and fix the redirect to main page while you are at it.
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oh... indy? i call shenanigans; that can't be the real title.
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Are they going to use the same prop they used in Stargate? Either way, I think this movie will become the 'Seventh Seal' in the Lucas/Speilberg creative meltdown. LOL I'll take the advice from the first movie: CLOSE YOUR EYES!
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They can call it whatever they want as long as the movie kicks my ass come May. That'w what matters to me most.
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That's what Spielberg's gonna call it now! :)
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Once he saw Britney in that outfit, Shia realized he was in Vegas and 21, so what the hell...
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MTV maybe a strange place to announce but this was certainly done with permisson.
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If you're not watching the VMA's, you must be old (just kidding). P.S. by the nature Shia made the announcement, I wasn't sure whether to take him serious or not. However MTV.com is presenting it as real news.
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Aren't Paramount and MTV both owned by, I believe, Viacom? If so, then it's probably not a joke. It's probably a marketing ploy in hopes to get 15-year-olds who don't know who Indiana Jones is to watch the movie.
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... I'd say Shia is joking. Watch all the other statements he has done with regards to the movie: they have all been dripping with sarcasm and wit. He avoids answering truthfully every time.
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No way.
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Why are you morons even discussing this? I have a swamp to sell you.
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http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html Eat it.
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They can always change it down the line but like Proman says official site is claiming the title.
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You did your research well!!!!
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... I was wrong. It is indeed the title. Okay, then.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull
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Um, um, um..............WTF?
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I remember reading about crystal skulls in the 1970's along with tales from the Bermuda Triangle. Google search for Crystal skulls... there's TONS of stuff on them.
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I must say credit Steven Awalt for being a great trustworthy source.
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It is the title. **gasp**
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no....please no. Dear God in heaven, no.
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Fits right in with Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Temple of Doom. It's cheesy in just the right necessary way. Granted, I think The City of the Gods is a better title overall, but who knows if that had anything to do with the story of this film.
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but this'll do. Some of you have to grow up- we knew it involved crystal skulls for months now, stop acting so shocked and bitter.
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Just call it "The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra," oh, wait. "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"??????? And they released the title on the VMA's, or whatever they call it now????? Classy!!!!!!!!!
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enuff said...
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And the Splinter of the Mind's Eye?
Is Alan Dean Foster writing the new IJ movie?
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I'll be fucking pissed if I wanna be, you tweener.
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"I can't take it anymore!!! I know, from the title of this movie, that this is going to be a piece of shit!!!! Why? WHY??? WHY??!?!?!?"
Okay, that's my impression of the reaction to follow after this announcement here on AICN. Frackin' TBers.
Not a big fan of the title, but all is forgiven if Spielberg delivers a great Indiana Jones movie, which I'm sure he will.
You see, there's a BIG difference between Lucas and Spielberg. Spielberg still has it... and he's evolving over the last few years. Lucas shouldn't have returned to directing, plain and simple, after a 22 year break to make the prequels.
But Lucas isn't directing it. And if anyone thinks that his bad tastes trumps the director that is Spielberg because Lucas is producer, then you're dead wrong. If Lucas was directing it, I'd be utterly fuckin'scared to watch Indiana Jones 4. But with Spielberg at the helm, odds are it's at the very least a fun and entertaining ride revisiting an iconic character that we love.
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I was going to point that out, but thought naught, mainly 'cause I found my Two Face glass not too long ago and I'm wondering if it'll ever be worth something.And, Mori was wrong?!?! When has that ever been the case?
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MTV is pwned by Viacom which pwns Paramount which distributes Indy movies...
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and this is alliteration on crack. "City of the Gods" sounded monumental....this sounds....errrr, uhhhhhh.......stupid.
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...even many of the ones we come up with on the board would be OK... "Indiana Jones and the Dogshit Mystery" works for me. Oh well... I'll live with it.
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JL talkback.
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WHAAAA! Come on grow up and change your diapers people. Deal with this.
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but I did know that. I just can't imagine that they chose to unveil it on a show with Miss Ding Dang as the opening act. Yeah, yeah, I know the demographic, but stil.........
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it's about expressing opinions.
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Indy heads down to his local new age parlour to buy some hippy shit. The kingdom is just a mall.
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i'm surprised no one's busted out the Vice Versa jokes..
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... I wasn't "correcting" anyone. I just thought it would turn out to be a goof. I didn't tell you that I knew it for a fact. And as soon as there was an official update, I put it up.
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So we have a title. OK. Yaaawwwwn... Time for bed.
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Update, right? I mean who cares what the OFFICIAL sire says?
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I totally just thought it would turn out that Shia was teasing with that fake title.
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Ah, well... :P
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Maybe gaffe.
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This project has already ruined Indy for me. I tried to re-watch Raiders a few weeks ago and couldn't finish it because I kept thinking about Shia Labeouf. And then immediately Transformers right after that. I don't want to think about Shia Labeouf, Transformers, Crystals, or whatever while watching Raiders of the Lost Ark. I'm sure it will pass. 20 years from now, that is. The title is too wordy, too hard to say. Simply Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Skull would've been infinitely better. But, well, the same man gave us The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones so, well... fuck this. Seriously. In it's ass.
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but was this quote... "this sounds....errrr, uhhhhhh.......stupid." the most intelligent opinion you could have expressed? I think not.
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You're spinning on your ass.
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you clearly over reacted... the title is not that bad.
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The others are iconic. This sounds like the name of some stupid spin-off video game.
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...INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF THE SANKARA STONES.
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This isn't about you, or me. But a lame title, as lame could be.
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I'll give you this much... the title isn't as cool as it could have been. But I'm prepared to live with it....The bottom line for me is this... if the movie itself it cool as we all wish it was.... no one will care less about the title.
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I'd rather get more info on JLA. THAT should be priority #1 for AICN and its various moles/sources.
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I don't know if anyone already put this up or if you all are talking about it but here's what I found on wikipedia.com tonight. This is kinda interesting. Or is it?
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Didn't they already use crystal skulls in Temple of Doom? Are they running out of ideas? Title is lame. About as good as "Attack of the Clones". Sheesh...
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( This is merely a possible suggestion ) But perhaps some of you are not familiar with "Crystal Skulls" in the first place. Crystal Skulls are REAL objects from history. Check it out people!
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But I think many will. As has been obvious. It's about marketing, and common sense, and...well.....coming up with a great title. This is not a great title. Yep, it's just a damn movie, but for those of us who make movies our life, these things tend to take on a bit more importance. At 45, I remember the first time I heard "Raiders of the Lost Ark" - and it really worked. I HAD to see it. This title sounds less than intriguing.
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i mean, really, really dumb. it actually gives attack of the clones a run for its money. and i like that movie.
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ok, sounds appropriate for Indiana Jones, but again why must classics always be fettered by filmmakers' desire to relive the past? They have to realize that making this film will inadvertently affect the original films. It better hold up! The only thing that makes me confident in this project is Spielberg at the helm, but he isn't the same director anymore either. This release next year could mark the sunset of the Indiana Jones concept, the group of actors seemed kind of sad at comic con, Harrison Ford seemed sad to be in the costume again, this will be interesting, I'm definitely hoping for the best in this case
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull
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i remember hearing a lady on art bell talking about it.
by cotton mcknight
the crystal skulls, that is. assuming its the same thing. Anyway.
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Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Kinda wordy just like this new picture. I guess that means the ark is in this new one. HA!!!
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they'll include the rhinocerous chase in this one
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Whatever that's worth.
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If you don't know or care about "Crystal skulls" then why are you here posting numerous posts about the title? I've known about crystal skulls since I was 6 years old... they are real ancient artifacts from history. This title indicates that this next Indy movie could be the greatest EVER! I'm REALLY looking forward to this one! :-D
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I salute you! :-)
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Mysterious World
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Yeah '08. Turn out great.
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Please elaborate on the whole skulls in history thing. If not, I'll check the absolute source for facts, WikiPedia.
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was where I first learned of Crystal skulls! "Godhelpus" nailed it! I knew someone would get it! :-D
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Indiana Smith and the Close Encounters of the Inside of the Phantom Mothership
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There was a video game: Nancy Drew: Legend of the Crystal Skull....swell....let's jump in the jalopy and solve the mystery.
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Will he be in the movie to punch Indy in the nose?
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you can't recapture the past.
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I know the Indiana Jones adventures are supposed to reflect the vibe of Saturday matinee serials of old, but this title is really damn cheesy. You can achieve the same spirit with City of the Gods, or even Destroyer of Worlds (the latter is especially cool because of its nuclear connection through Oppenheimer-Bhagavad Gita)..."Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" is in the neighborhood of "Attack of the Clones": overdone fanboy cheese.
I still have hope they will deliver, mostly because of Spielberg and Darabont, as well as the fact that aged Ford doesn't look too bad in his Indy getup. The other thing that worries me is that there's no true archeological history behind this, unlike the Ark of the Covenant and the Grail. It's a cheesy sci-fi bit...those of you who claim it's a true artifact steeped in real pre-colombian history are mistaken. It's been proven to be a lame 20th century hoax; some skulls were sold by some trickster, there was never a layered or complex legend to it related to the Aztecs or Mayans. Meh. -
A Crystal Skull is simply a model of a human skull composed entirely in crystal. It is unknown how many there are in the world, however myth has it that there are 13 throughout the world. The curious thing about crystal skulls is that while one assumes that they were carved out of crystal... there are NO carving marks on the skulls AT ALL. Some have theorized that the skulls were carved by an ancient civilization using either laser beams OR physic powers. The myth legend of crystal skulls are almost ALWAYS associated with UFO's , Bigfoot and aliens. This strongly suggests that the next Indy film will be steeped in mystery and the unexplained.
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Kocs. This is off to a great start.
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Let's put a spoiler box around this here Talkback.
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I was digging the fact that this Indy was going to go pseudo-science fiction. I wonder if they'll explain why God kills people that leaves their eyes open when the Ark of the Covenant is open?BTW, I think I ate a chicken carbonara at Quiznos the other day, does that menu item have anything to do with your' name?
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So yes..at some point you may have eaten me. :-)
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What Carbonara says was proven repeatedly to be hogwash and the skulls have been studied time and again, only to determine they were of recent origin and possessed no such mysterious properties. Even then, it is unkown what they were supposed to do or what their larger significance was. Again, no story steeped in reality or history, unlike the previous films.
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Remember how crazy all us nerds got when that title was announced? Here we go again...
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that 2 of the potential titles were Curse Of The Crystal Skull and Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. Well shit, that turned out to be right on the money!
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If at the end the find out the Crystal Skull is actually a K-Mart knock off made of cheap Mexican glass?
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anyone who doesn't like this title is just being an asshole.
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I'm NOT claiming that the skulls are true or the myths and legends of the skulls are true...I'm only indicating that this is a possible direction for the film. ultimately it's up to Speilberg and Lucas as to where they take this film.
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Have we already forgotten the prequels? Lucas loves stupid titles and squandering beloved projects by pandering to the kiddie generation, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is totally for the real yo!
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that one hurt.
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... since I haven't read Nathanson's draft(s), all I can comment on is the content of Darabont's, and your comments are waaaaaaaaay off-base. That script was filled with action. I count at least six major set-pieces, and each one is different. It's not just "put the old man in a rig and let him sit there," by any means. Far from it. This is the Indiana Jones we all loved in the original films, punching and riding and using the whip and his gun to get out of tight spots. It was far from "Henry Jones Senior."
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Not trying to slam the film at all; as I said, I have faith in the filmmakers. To be honest, at least it's an artifact that has existed in some form, I'm just disappinted about the oozing-cheese title. But in the end, I don't care as long as the film delivers.
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From another forum,
"was just watching a Travel channel show about the great mysteries of the world and they did a segment on 13 crystal skulls, 5 of which have been found ins Central and South America. Apparently, when all 13 are put together they will help humankind get through the end of the world. I was telling my friend about this today and he said "That's crazy. It sounds like something that would be in an Indiana Jones movie." Later on, we were watching the VMAs and the movie title was announced...I turned to hima and we both said "No way..." -
As I had my first wet dream to Jessica Alba, and that was over ten years ago, spooky eh? So I was like "Alba is so hot." and other people gave her an award for that, but I thought if it along time ago.
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From the Skeptic's Dictionary: http://skepdic.com/crystalskull.html
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What a piece of shit title.
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Most of you people know that the Indy Ride in Tokyo DisneySea is CALLED Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Crystal Skulls. It is the excate same ride only with all Cyrstal Skulls. I wonder if this came into play. The Ride building itself is also a Aztec Temple like the one at Universal Set.
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http://www.tokyodisneyresort.co.jp/tds/english/7port/lostriver/atrc_indiana.html
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So your' saying they should've gone with "The Skull of Doom" to tie it up with the previous movie(s)?
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My kid came and told me about this. Bullshit! You don't fool me for one second there Merrick. You were watching that crap.
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Weren't there crystal skulls that Indy had to steal from Mola Ram in The Temple of Doom? Talk about rehashed plot devices....
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http://www.themeparkinsider.com/reviews/tokyo_disneysea/indiana_jones_-_temple_of_the_crystal_skull/
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Wait a minute... Didn't some researcher - way back - claim that these skulls originated from Atlantis? I might be wrong, but if it's true (and Darabont / Lucas) picked up on this, the 'Kingdom' in the title might just turn out to be that watery city.
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See what i did there? I made an implied joke about how Ford is too old to play Indiana Jones.
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Yep.
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What a nutty title Lucas has cooked up yet again. Let see if it sticks until it's released. Yikes!
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http://www.tobew.com/html/homepage.htm
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Sep 10, 2007 4:27:26 AM CDT
Indiana Jones in the Attack of the 50-foot Crystal Skul
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
What a stupid ass title.
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Worse than "Revenge of the Sith," but better than "Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones." All shit, though.
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Or even Destroyer of Worlds. "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". Fuck. I'm getting "Phantom Menace" cold chills from this shit. That fuckin moron Lucas does it again.
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Man, I had such a good feeling about this film, now my bowels are shaking.
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bring it on.
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Sep 10, 2007 5:04:17 AM CDT
INDIANA JONES & THE ANCIENT CRYSTAL SKULL TOMB KINGDOM
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At least for my foreign ears.
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...so I'd bet that is the title, but we shall see.
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...I am about 12 hours too late. Any later and I could get a job working for AICN...
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Lighten up guys, it's a homage to B movies. Spielberg will deliver.
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bought this up, but the most famous Crystal Skull is called "The Skull of Doom", also the Skull's have been linked with Atlantis (loved the game) and the Knights Templar! Fucking cool.
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I thought after Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones Lucas might've gotten all the bullshit cheesy titles out of his system. Seems not. My enthusiasm for this flick just took a serious blow to the head and is tottering around on the edge of a steep cliff.
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I don't know how many of you talkbackers are into heavy metal, but Mastodon has a song called "Crystal Skull" on their most recent album, Blood Mountain. The song is fucking adventurous as hell! I can't wait for the fan-made Indiana Jones/Mastodon music video!
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First time poster, long time reader. Surprised no one wrote this or made the connection but wasn't the possesion of a Crystal Skull one of the main plot points of the cinematic classic House II? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_II:_The_Second_Story
What are they doing, stealing plot devices from horror/comedy classics?.....yes i am being sarcastic.
I know i should reserve judgement, but damn this title sucks, why can't they leave something to the imaginations.
Are they going to go back and Change the title of "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" to "Indiana Jones and the Glowing Magic Rocks"?
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Seriously. Ugh.
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Ooooooh now that has a ring to it!
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"Your insulting them and embarrassing me.....Eat it."
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I now fear for this movie...
I could get behind a revisitation of the Ark; I liked that idea but Crystal Skulls??
I don't like it. I still believe that The Big Three can make a damn good movie but will it be an Indy movie.....please prove me wrong.
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Anton "Butterscotch" Belloq
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You should have just made a link to that and just replaced the title.
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Jones is on a crusade......to end all hip-hop rock before its too late and the world collapsed into nothingness.
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the title will not be too much a concern, yes? I'm still hoping this will be a good, solid entry into the Indy movie world.
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Is "cinematic classic" a euphemism for 'piece of shit'?!?
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cx xsssghdfnbniux krtyuyrtk
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Dr Gregory House....my sentiments exactly
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this title not only perfectly captures the pulp feel of the franchise... the Crystal Skulls are an absolutely INGENIOUS choice for this movie! read about them at Wikipedia or several other websites! the Crystal Skulls are a "real" and very ancient myth... not christianity-related like the Ark or the Grail (which is a good choice in itself), but totally rooted in myth-reality, with all kinds of cool and weird things surrounding them. I LOVE IT!
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Everything after Raiders has been an inferior immitation. This will be no different.
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Very 1950s serial cheesefest. Bring it on!
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yum yum
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Might have been better to go the Sly Stallone route and just call it, "Indiana Jones."
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Abom. She's coming over in a french maid outfit to your place Abom, to "tidy" up. She's practically french ya know.
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Tell Spielberg, Lucas and co. to take the scene of Indy riding bitch to you on the motorcycle and re-film that sequence. Hopefully it wasn't a big part of the movie so it won't cost much to do but seriously that needs to be redone. READ MY LIPS SHIA LABARF; INDIANA JONES DOESN'T RIDE BITCH TO ANYONE! I DONT CARE EVEN IF IN THE MOVIE YOUR FUCKING YOUNG INDIANA JONES AND SOMEHOW YOU TOOK A TIME PORTAL INTO THE FUTURE TO MEET THE FUTURE YOU AND YOU TOLD FUTURE INDY TO RIDE BITCH TO YOUNG INDY. INDIANA JONES SHOULDN'T EVEN RIDE BITCH TO HIMSELF! ITS BLASPHEMY! ITS FUCKING LUDICROUS! I WILL THROW UP ALL OVER THE PERSON IN FRONT OF ME AT THE THEATRE IF I HAVE TO SEE INDY RIDING BITCH TO ANYONE!
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she told me that too.
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WAY too long title. You can't have BOTH an "of the" AND an "and the" in the same fucking title. Is this because all the fanboys started raving for "of the"-titles after The Phantom Menace? INDIANA JONES and the CRYSTAL SKULL would have been enough. Or at least INDIANA JONES and the CRYSTAL SKULL KINGDOM.
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and the the mystery of J.J Abrams' new movie
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...what the hell is wrong with you freaks? That title is just great and most definitely in keeping with the series and its pulpy tone. Whiny bitches.
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Worse being, of course, Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace
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...that I am shocked - shocked! - at the lack of old man jokes in this talkback! For shame!
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The Venture Bros. A kick-ass episode of The Venture Bros!
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Okay. So maybe it wasn't that funny.
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Its just a fucking title you sag bag rimmers...its what happens in the film that counts!
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If Bond had to ride bitch, Solo should as well.
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Speed 2: Cruise Control.
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seriously, i'm kinda wishing they went with that instead of this one, when it was annound i simultaniously heard 5 million peopole tripping over the words as they said it aloud
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Moriarty just loves our spin on the Indiana Jones titles. (snort!)
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C'mon Mori, tell us why the Darabont script was not picked and stop with this misterious bullshit. Don't care if he's your friend, or who is: you're first and foremost a writer for this site, so get going with it.
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I Still Know What You Did Last Summer.
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I hope everyone realizes that.
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Those little whipper-snappers!
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*yawn*
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have a child named Indiana?! How weird is that? Is that a tribute to her brother River?
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Or: "Communion", "Fire In The Sky" "Cartman Gets an Anal Probe" "Independence Day"...
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after seeing that fucking title was treat williams laughing his ass off while getting energy zapped by 'crystal skulls' in that fucking phantom movie!!!
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The Shawshank Redemption, anyone?
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And it never occured to them that INDIANA JONES AND THE CRYSTAL SKULL would be a simpler and therefore, more effective title?
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Pirates of the Caribbean: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull!!
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You guys doing all the INDY 4 titles should jump over to CHUD's thread on this subject. They're scared to death that the AICNers are going to register and bring the multi-title spam over to their shores.Ride now!
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the title is cool enough, but that logo smells like cockroach urine and serpent manure.. they need to have a spinning 3D logo and lots of explosions yeea!!!.. no seriously... it looks crap.
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I have dim memories of a Marvel UK comic from the 80s which had an Indiana Jones adventure involving a Mayan (?) Crystal Skull. Marvel UK tended to publish weekly comics with serialisation of a couple of Marvel US monthy comics (the headline comic and at least one backup comic), so I assume there was a Marvel US (or "Marvel") Indiana Jones comic with this story line. Prove me wrong.
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Worst title for an Indy movie. And may even have surpassed "Phantom Menace" for just its sheer horrible ungainliness.
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LAME
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It's a great title. Great premise, it will kick all sorts of ass, and you will bow to The Spielberg come May. I hope you are all ready to apologise for not believing.
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...no matter what the title may be.
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Now there's a movie
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If the motion-captured JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA turns out to be something special, it would seem that a stylized CGI/motion-captured JONNY QUEST would be a possibility.
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Sep 10, 2007 9:39:20 AM CDT
THEY SURE DON'T MAKE TITLES LIKE THEY USED TO .......
by bringingsexyback
That title sucks like my brand new Dyson. I love this thing.
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Oh, sorry, that's already a Scooby Doo direct to DVD flick.
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Do I really have to say that entire title to the clerk? I'll probably fall asleep before I get all the words out. Yay Iron Man!
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Sep 10, 2007 9:43:24 AM CDT
INDIANA JONES AND THE INTERNATIONAL HOUSE OF PANCAKES
by bringingsexyback
Do they still have the Tutti Frutti Fresh And Fruity Breakfast?
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Oh well. If the worse thing about this movie is the title, then I think I can live with it.
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That's a better title. They can have it for a price.
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were far better titles than this. It's just so damn clunky to say. Indy 4 it is then....Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. Jesus just typing that shit is a nightmare let alone saying it.
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That's this title's "Wow Factor" equivalent. What's mysterious or gritty about a "Crystal Skull"? Lame. Lame. Lame.
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Which is not a compliment.
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woudl have been better with simply "and the crystal skull"
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Indy's got a wide stance, now he's accused of soliciting ass sex. Shia and Indy in their first Prison Break adventure.
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what happened to City of the Gods... which was a great title and had series ending signifigance beyond the already great ender Last Crusade... this title to me suggests that they are def planning on continuing the series through shia
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...and the Lost City Wherein Dwells the True Locus of the Resting Place of the Lost 13 Crystal Craniums of Ancient History.
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Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull would have been enough. Indiana Jones and the Skull Kingdom. Indiana Jones and .... anything else shorter than this friggin name. George Lucas has lost it.
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Rated PG-13.
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Shia wants a new BMW M6, Indy must steal the crystal skull to afford it.
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...and the Verbose Fricken Title from Satan's Cornhole. Here's how it will look in the papers and on cinema marquees: "Indiana Jones" or possibly "Indy 4." Because that's really what it is.
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Shia, is that youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?
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and Indiana does a "Saturday Night Fever" dance through the hallway of his university. 'Course, that's only after he plays jazz piano in a club and smacks Marion to the floor. Get ready to stab your own eyes out.
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That's what it will always be to me.
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As bad as the Prequel titles were, at least they synced up with and were true to the format of the original three Star Wars titles. Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull means absolutely nothing outside of the context of the story. (Hopefully it will mean something WITHIN the context of the story, unlike Attack Of The Clones. Oh, who am I kidding, it doesn't matter because this is gonna be Grumpier Old Men with a hat.)
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...adventure will remember it's name. This summer, a hero shall return. And a legend will be reborn....this summer, just reading the title will leave you exhausted.
What's the poster art gonna look like? Will they have room for an image with all those words crammed in there? Jesus pleezus! -
and Marion Swallows It."
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yup.
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So this will be INDIANA JONES AND THE CHRONIC GRAPENUTS or something. The SUPPOSITORY OF DOOM. Just let Bruce Campbell play an aging Indiana Jones saving an old folks' home from an undead Belloq and the whole thing will work again.
Karen Allen... Seriously, I still would! She, like, hasn't aged!! -
Apparently the Beef is fucking Rihanna.
I swear to God, that little bitch has it coming. I fuckin' hate him, the spawny little bastard!
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I mean, c'mon, it was called THE TEMPLE OF DOOM. DOOM? A temple filled with doom? Find something else to bitch about you dumb douches.
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Did you know that Nigella Lawson is 46? She's the hotness!
She can google my youtube any day...
Back on topic: you can never go home. And this new Indy flick sounds a lot like goin' home. They're all old bastards now, let 'em rest their weary bones. And NO BITCHING when you TBers see A LOT of CGI stunt work and many stunt persons who are NOT Harrison Ford doing his stunts for him. The man is in his sixties and needs his knees intact, dammit!
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That's right, Lucas is going to personally skullfuck all the Indy fanboys. He's gonna rape your fucking skulls along with your childhood masturbatory fantasies. Well, at least we now have an idea of how UFOs/aliens fit into this story - the legendary Crystal Skulls are said to be from another world. Perhaps aliens return (like Cocoon: The Return.....) to reclaim the skulls, or Indy is sent to find the skulls.
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There's your new title right there.
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Indy dies at the end. Spoiler!!!
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Porn flick featuring Indy's hot porn flick sister doing burlesque. Dita Von Teese could play Diana. Except she don't do porn.
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Nigella is 46?! Good lord, she's the tastiest thing I've ever seen in a kitchen.
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Yea, I would expect Lucas to go all Lolcats on us with this one.
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Sep 10, 2007 10:33:57 AM CDT
Not like RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK flowed off the tongue
by blue meanie 1138
I always assumed that was why everyone referred to it as RAIDERS. Everyone bitching about every little minutiae of a movie they haven't seen one frame of will be queing up in line next summer. See y'all there!
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The movie will be a-okay. And 'Kingdom of the Crystal Skull' isn't that bad. The movie's probably about a crystal skull ... and a kingdom ... so what the fuck do you want it to be called?
You can't trust a gut reaction from fan boys. Everyone whined about flames on Optimus, yet went to see the movie anyway. In a non-related area, fanboys practically pissed fire when they heard that Nintendo changed the 'Revolution' to the 'Wii.'
We all see how angry they must have been now. I can't imagine how much money Nintendo is losing on the Wii because of those thousands of angry nerds! Oh wait, they're not losing shit.
George Lucas is the prison cafeteria server. He's going to put this food on your plate, and you're going to eat it and shut the fuck up.
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ijatkotcs
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The title "Raiders of the Lost Ark" would have been torn to shreds if AICN was around at the time, it's just as long and goofy as "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". The title is irrelevant, and all the moaners will shut the fuck up if Spielberg nails it, if not then they can bitch as much as they want.
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lets start hearing some spoilers on the plot, what is this kingdom and are the crystal skulls more of a religious artifact or voodoo macig like in ToD...and what about all these aliens we've been hearing about, maybe they have crystal skulls
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Love the title, love the logo. Nothing else to say.
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from those shows like "In Search Of". I think it had it's own episode. Cool beans.
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sounds like the name of a straight to dvd indiana jones cartoon movie.
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anybody else remember when that winner was being whispered?
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I don't care what the subtitle is, just make the movie good.
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These are the same dip shits that keep bringing us must see tv like Making the Band 25,My Super Sweet 16 and The Hillz. Thats the real reason other countries want to destroy us, not president Bush. They show The Hills and My Super Sweet 16 at terrorists camps and then follow that up with "do you want this to spread over here?" All of the people involved with those shows (and the people who enjoy them) should be shot in the head. Judging from the pictures in the paper this morning the Britney Spears song was bad but I wouldn't call her fat just yet. I guess that not suprising coming from the same people that called Ron Howards daughter fat. Such high standards.
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"Some people with a mystical bend credit them with strange, supernatural powers. Geologists marvel at their size. Archaeologists wonder who made them. And nobody denies that they possess an eerie, horrible beauty unmatched by almost any other objects. They are the crystal skulls.
There have been many replicas of human skulls that have been polished out of a single crystal of quartz rock. Some are ancient, some contemporary. A few have been made from pure quartz and are absolutely clear. A rare few are also life-sized.
Quartz, composed almost entirely of silicon dioxide, is found in almost every type of rock and can form huge crystals that weigh tons. While it is colorless and transparent when pure, when a tiny portion of the silicon atoms are replaced with iron, aluminum, manganese or titanium, the crystal can take on beautiful colors. Amethyst is violet quartz. Jasper is quartz with red, yellow, brown, gray or black coloring. Onyx and Agate are quartz with bans of color. Bloodstone is green with red spots. If a single streak runs through the quartz it might be called Cat's Eye, Tiger's Eye or Rutile.
All crystal is ancient and there are no good ways of guessing how long ago a skull shape was carved or polished out of the quartz. Scientists have examined some of the skulls whose history is not known looking for tiny marks that may tell what type of tools were used to carve them, but this may not always give a reliable age or origin. It does not eliminate contemporary artists using ancient methods.
Probably the two most famous clear crystal skulls are the "Mitchell-Hedges" skull and a skull owned by the British Museum.
The British Museum's skull was part of the exhibit at the The Museum of Mankind in London for many years. The skull sat in a case there labeled as "possibly of Aztec origin- the colonial period at the earliest." This was guesswork on the part of the museum staff. The museum itself obtained the skull from Tiffany's, the New York jewelers. Nobody is sure where Tiffany's obtained it, though there are rumors that it was part of a collection amassed by a mysterious soldier of fortune in Mexico. More recent examinations of the skull seem to indicate that the tools used to make it are most likely more modern than originally thought, placing the age of the skull at century at the most.
The skull is so strangely hypnotic that there is a story that the cleaning staff at the musem one time insisted that the object be covered with a black cloth before they worked around it at night.
The Mitchell-Hedges skull (right) has an even more checkered past than the Museum of Mankind Skull. F.A. Mitchell-Hedges was a self-proclaimed British adventurer during the early twentieth century. He told stories about how he gambled with the rich J.P. Morgan, roomed with Leon Trotsky and fought with Pancho Villa. All of these appear to be tall tales.
The skull itself is, of course, very real, but how it came into Mitchell-Hedges possession is an open question. We know for sure that he was in possession of it by 1944. That year a member of the staff of the British Museum had bid on the skull at an auction and made this note:" -
Can't wait.
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You remember, the one with the guy's dead grandpa and the amazon crystal skull that they have to chase after? Yay La Beef!
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less copy, less confusion.
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That he's doing this for the fans, but then he throws in his pet Shia LaBeouf, who I think it's safe to say that the overwhelming majority of Indy fans don't want in this flick, and then the rumored story pisses all over the first three films (aliens giving us technology and religion = the Ark, Sankara Stones, and Holy Grail are now just spiffy pieces of alien hardware), and then they pimp this movie on the VMAs. It's clearly Spielberg trying to tweak Indiana Jones to be popular with the kids these days (jaded losers who love Shia LaBeouf), even if it means taking a shit all over the franchise. I've standed by my claim that if this film features Shia as Indy's son and/or the Chariot of the Gods theory, that it would be a wholesale rape of the original films, and it now seems like the film will boast both! Fuck. This. Shit.
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Indiana Jones And The Raiders Of The Lost Ark, Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom, Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Cystal Skull, wtf is wrong with the god damn title!.
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even if he did spark some interesting talkbacks.
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The title smells like George Lucas.
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IJATKOTCS...this summer!
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Fuck You
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"...and the kingdom of skulls" would have been less of a mouthfull and less clumsy sounding. Their's no doubt Lucas came up with that title.
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Waaaay too many K's in title.
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For the guy who was inquiring about it earlier... Indiana vs. the Russians, Alien Artifact=Mguffin, Mankind started by aliens, not god, And that's about it. I'm sure Lucas just took those basic ideas, and added 2,000 CGI shots to it.
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"This. This IS history." <p. ;)
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What pisses me off is that fuckin IJ.com is not accessible via Flash only since the reboot in late July. Because of the restirction on our PC, I don't have the Flash and I can't download it either. FUCK YOU (bank I work for) and FUCK YOU LucasFilm! The title? well, it's fine. It's the actual film I'll judge when I see it.
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I mean: "What pisses me off is that fuckin IJ.com is ONLY accessible via Flash since the reboot "
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... and the Kingdom of Callista Flockheart's Head
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If they called it "city of Gods," i wonder if that meant that there would have been cameo apperences by Lil'Ze and Knockout Ned? forget the Nazis, have Dr. Jones battling it out with brazilian drug gangs!
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with arthritis as his enemy.
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This was talked about endlessly in the off shoot novels about Indy's life leading up to Temple of Doom. The whole story was him searching for this damn cursed crystal skull that was doomed to make him kill what he loved most.
If it's anything like this story I won't be amused, but if it's not I'll be happy. I'll still see the movie and will probably enjoy the hell out it, but if it's like the novels I won't be too happy abou it. Oh well.
But this story has already been touched on, I just wonder if they're going to use the novel series as actual canonical background and have it be the same skull and have him talk about it. And now I'm intrigued. oh well, love the title though. And sounds like a line out of one of the novels. Can't wait. -
The last swashbuckler movie I recall that had crystal skulls as a plot point was The Phantom, a fun, if slight, action movie.
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"Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull." The other title is just too much of a mouthful. The movie going public and press are just gonna call it "Crystal Skull " anyway...
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Raider of the Lost Ark. The Temple of Doom. The Last Crusade.________All titles that work well on their own (like they should). "The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" is an asine title any way you look at it and Speilberg should know better ... even if Lucas has obviously lost it.
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holyfuckingshitholyfuckingshit. oh my. shock. KOTCS? Kingdom? how should I call you baby? something deep inside of me wants this to be a hoax. like the mermaid prince thing a long loong loong long long time ago. I'm still in shock. just the fact that they released the title. how could they do that...without warning me...after four weeks without any news at all.....
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that is all
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http://www.themeparkinsider.com/reviews/tokyo_disneysea/indiana_jones_-_temple_of_the_crystal_skull/
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The german translation will be a mess.
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this is the last announcement that should have been made by Shia for this film.
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I'm letting it sink in for now. I'm not thrilled with it, either. But, it's not that bad. Wordy, but I think the tone fits in with the others, though it's sorta weak. What I liked about the others, especially, "Raiders" and Crusade" was the way the titles eluded to more than just the film's macguffin. As someone up there said, those title weren't so "literal".
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hey...good to see you finky. I just read the news about 30 minutes ago, so all of my thoughts are still quite undigested and purely emotional bs. There probably cannot be any better title than LAST CRUSADE for a last installment. And it's as if this title is pulling me back to b-movie earth, where this "franchise" originated.... I wasn't only shocked by the title...but the fact that they were revealing it now..and through Shia...at the mtv awards...
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...now there's bitching about the title logo? Is this a joke? You fucking haters would have screamed bloody murder if the logo didn't use the same font as the other films in the series.
The talkbacker who said that the title Raiders of the Lost Ark would have been mauled by talkbackers if AICN had existed back in 1981 was right on the money. I'll bet you cinetards think The Empire Strikes Back is a good title. In fact, it's just as bad, if not worse, than Attack of the Clones -- never mind the difference in the films' qualities. -
Not that I think it will be dull, I think it will be quite good, just joining in the crack thats all.
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Yes, revealing the title on the VMA via Shia is unspectacular. but perhaps that's because I stopped watching MTV about the time Remote Control hit. And my guess is, so did a large part of the existing Indyfan-base, if they ever watched MTV. SS is smart and I think he knows he needs to stir up a bit of buzz among the younger crowd. The 16-24's know who Indy is and that he's a "film icon", but there's rarely the kind of attachment there is among those whose age exceeds that fickle demographic. SS and GL know they have Dark Knigh and increasingly positive Iron Man buzz to contend with next summer. So, I have a hunch that revealing the title like that - through Shia- hit the males AND females they wanted to get excited about this project. The rest of us "original" Indyfans who probably don't watch Indy or hang pictures of Shia in our rooms (perhaps unless there are darts in it?) will still find out in our own ways. Like, by Internet.
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But will Sallah be riding on the bike in front of him whem he trains for his new adventure?
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if the whole film is in the title, what's the point in watching the film?
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That's what happens when my brian and my typing aren't synched up.
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Sep 10, 2007 1:30:02 PM CDT
INDY JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM WITH THE MAGIC STONES
by george newman
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good to see ya, too. Been a while since there was any real Indy news.
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IN THE CRESCENT CANYON
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too many words
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I wrote about it!
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..complete with tire tracks
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Indy faces his worst fear: snakes on a talkback!
"You bastards, I'll get you for this!"
"Indiana Jones, adieu."
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...is that it would seem to confirm that the movie ISNT' about the Reds stealing the Ark of the Covenant. Which is a real shame. The Grail and the Sankara stones were lost but the Ark is still locked away in that warehouse just begging for a rematch which will sadly never come. The title's fine though. Out of context, the titles 'Pirates of the Caribbean - The Curse of the Black Pearl' (mouthful), 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' (what the heck does that mean?), and X2 : X-Men United (goofy) all sound dodgy, but the movies were fine so it's not an issue. I'd rather have a long wordy title that is distinctive than fall into the trap of the later Star Trek films by having 'snappy' and forgettable one-word titles. Nemesis? Insurrection? Generations? Which one is which?
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Follow in the footsteps of Dr. Indiana Jones in a harrowing, life-or-death quest for the legendary Fountain of Youth. But beware the Fountain is purported to be guarded by a vengeful, supernatural spirit known as the Crystal Skull!
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It sounds like an old b-movie serial, which is EXACTLY what the IJ series is supposed to be. The title is cool, and I don't care about the artifact in question as long as they make an entertaining movie. Hell, who really gave a shit about the Sankara stones?
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Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Maze. With Richard O'Brien. And Mumsy.
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If Marion only knew
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Yeah sure, finky :). It's crystal-skull clear that the mtv award demographics are a crucial part of the action adventure film demographic. (Unfortunately I just became aware of the mtv crowd that will sit next to me next year.) The video of Shia announcing the title (over at mtv) is kinda funny. Because the audience reaction is rather ...mild. ;) The first second I read the news about the title and saw Shia's name somewhere in the news piece I actually thought he had spilled the beans once again...hehehe...
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We're not haters. We just think it's kinda silly. That's all. Doesn't mean we're taking a hot steamy turd on it.
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That is a god awful title. I hope to hell Shia was messing with everyone.
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That's what I think of this title.
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their crowd and the Indy crowd are like two separate frequencies. Why the two ever had to meet seems kind of dumb to me.
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When he is clearly the most controversial member of the cast and the one that people aren't sold on yet. The more they shove him down our throats the less apt we are going to be to accept him. If there is anything this dude could afford to do right now it's lay low for a while and get out of our faces.
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none of us know much of anything about this movie. Let's not forget that along with "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," the other registered titles were:- Indiana Jones and the City of Gods
- Indiana Jones and the Destroyer of Worlds
- Indiana Jones and the Fourth Corner of the Earth
- Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
- Indiana Jones and the Lost City of Gold
- Indiana Jones and the Quest for the Covenant
From those titles, and what seems to be multiple reports suggesting that the Ark does indeed play a role in the movie, and that a large chunk of the plot is inspired from Erich Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods, we're in for one helluva Indiana Jones movie--maybe even the best. -
I'll still go see this one in the theatre.
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Just remember what happened with Transformers. Beforehand everyone was whining that there was "too much story" and that nobody wanted to see that much of the kid, and then after it came out everyone whined that there wasn't ENOUGH LaBuff. The parts in TF when he was onscreen were definitely the strongest (in an altogether POS movie, mind you, but still). The kid's got chops, no question. I think he will reinvigorate Indy. He seemed to be the only one in the ComiCon thing who was truly excited and grateful to be there. Oh yeah, and the title sucks donkey balls.
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Why is everyone ready to hate this movie? Last I heard, Revenge of the Sith was pretty damn good. As was Munich, Catch Me if You Can, Minority Report, and a majority of Spielberg's work minus 1941 and The Lost World.
We're FINALLY getting a new Indiana Jones movie from two of the greatest storytellers of the last 50 years, one of the greatest movie stars of all time, and from a script that has been touched by numerous talented screenwriters including M. Night Shyamalan and Frank Darabont, both of which were fresh off of The Sixth Sense and The Green Mile.And regardless of what you feel about Lucas, he has proven himself as an innovator and as a storyteller. Regardless of the script and the direction for the Star Wars prequels, the stories are structured brilliantly and intelligently, with the best of mythology, classic mystery stories, and Flash Gordon-esque serials. And he's callede this one a "total character piece" which is exactly what this film, being the last of the series, needs to be. That and the executives at Dreamworks have said that this is not so much a sequel, but a reprisal of a beloved character. This is what "Unforgiven" is to the classic Clint Eastwood westernSo far, I have not seen one legitimate reason to suggest that this movie is going to be anything but awesome. Judging by the Comic-Con footage, everyone seems to be so excited that they're there working on another Indy movie. And really, it's a big deal when Harrison Ford seems that enthused about something he's doing. This could be the first vintage Spielberg movie since Jurassic Park. -
Im with Moriarty. This name will change. I remember reading a quote from Lucas who said the artifact in search is so highly controversial he was suprised everyone was on board for it. I don't think a Crystal skull is controversial. I think INDY will be hunting a Muslim relic, hence to contemporary controversy, and that it's the only Western religion left for Indy to raid.
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While this title may or may not be real, why is there "No way Paramount and Spielberg and Lucas decide to announce this via Shia at an (MTV)awards show." They have to get this movie out to the young audience and having a scorching hot and talented actor who just KILLED in The Transformers this summer announce it on MTV seems like perfect marketing to a new audience who have heard all about how great Indy is from thier (boring)dads....Sounded like perfect marketing to me, my man.
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is that it'll basically be saying that all of our ancient gods--the builders of the pyramids, helicopters being mentioned in the Bible, the idea that Soddom and Gamora (sp?) was a nuclear explosion, the Naztek (sp?) lines in Peru--were actually cosmic visitors and the source of both our evolution from Neanderthals to what we are today and most of our religions. Joseph Campbell talked about the correlation between ancient myths. Stories in the Bible and be traced to Greek mythology and as far back to the ancient epic of Gilgamesh. This movie looks to acknowledge the reason why the Flood was written about long before the story of Noah.There was also an early story idea that they decided to go back to with this one--Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men From Mars. The script that was written was bad, and instantly rejected by Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford. However, some of the ideas in it have clearly made their way into this.At first I thought conroversial = Muslim relic. But everything points to the thesis laid out in Daniken's Chariots of the Gods.
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Is it ...
A.) George Lucas' mind?
B.) The Tricked-Out Blu-Ray, HDDVD, and DVD sets of the Original Star Wars Trilogy?
C.) An earthquake machine that will drown Hollywood underwater, possibly allowing for a movie that is NOT a sequel or a remake to make it to a screen near you? -
In the same way Phantom Menace was geared for the Teletubbie audience, I have a feeling that Indy 4 will be sold heavily to the Hills/High School Musical/Paris Hilton audience. Lucas/Spielberg don't care about your dollar, because they think they already have it. That's why they are making the mainstream face of Indy 4 is a "Hot New Actor."
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The words "Kingdom" and "Crystal" clash calamitously.
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made a movie about the Christ [e.t.] and last crusade had the holy grail, i can see this being "quasi-religioso" [as lucas once said], sounds cool, though i wonder if he gets shit from other jewish people at temple because of it.
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I dont know if its the fact that I havent gotten used to it or if the title simply doesnt work. There is so much in a name and the last three Indy's were great titles.
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starring bronson pinchot as saddam bartokamus.
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... no doubt you're right. I guess I expected them to make a bigger deal out of the title reveal, and the awards show venue seemed an odd choice. But demographically, it makes sense, I suppose, and considering how quickly the confirmation appeared on the official site and the logo was released, it was all obviously carefully coordinated.
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or ...and the crystal kingdom
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... and they Cristal, jiggas.
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on maury.
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callista's vagina.
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... an' thuh crystal tomb
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crazed ladyboy sucks for opium. tries to kill his first love, indy.
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good morning.
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Let alliteration lie low, lurking.
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KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULLED MTV TARGET AUDIENCE.
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Hilarious!
What's in a name? certainly not proof of a good or bad movie, that's for certain.
So Temple of DOOOOOM! is a GREAT title then ?
if that title came out today instead of years ago and people didn't have their Nostalgia goggles on i'm sure you all would rip on that title too. same goes for the EMIRE STRIKES BACK!!!!
ooooooh simply terrible with the goggles on as well.
give it a rest already . i swear so many people here just chomp at the bit for something to bitch about. we haven't even seen a bloody thing from the finished film yet and it's all this " I hate the Greaser Shia" " Ford is Sooo old " lol. guess what he IS old fools, and the story will reflect that. bitch bitch bitch. so much negative energy for a movie noone has seen. you all act like GL himself is directing this. It's Spielberg remember ? the guy who directed the last 3 films , you know the ones that are sooo GOOD?! he's an even better director now and when he tells us that he has made many movies for himself but he assures us that Indy IV is for US, the fans well i feel pretty optomistic about that. it sounds like he takes it very seriously . what have you got to look forward to if not this? this is the end of an Era in Filmmaking and we will never have something like a SW or an Indiana Jones to look forward to again. gee can't wait for that4th installment of that awesome Fast and the Furious series, or that latest Alien VS Predator joke. i hear more optimism for a Crappy Alien ripoof ,(especially based on the last joke ,AVP) than Fucking Indiana Jones man!. The good ol days are certainly gone. the internet has destroyed the joy of film. everyones an armchair critic and NOTHING impresses anymore. sad. I'm gonna go into this movie like a 13 year old Indy fan with anopen mind. it's not suppoed to make you relive your childhood , just entertain for a couple of hours and i'm sure it will do that. -
There's an "ö" and an "ä" in the german title. It looks and sounds not only ugly but as funny as the funniest fake titles ever created in Indy TBs. I'm not saying this as blind bashing. I'm just acknowledging what's there. I doubt you'll be able to go into this film "like a 13 year old"... On the one hand you're speaking like a bitter disillusioned 80 year old about the last things of cinema, on the other hand you want to walk into this with the mind set of a child? Something about these assessments is wrong.
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The fact that you think Spielberg is a better director now than ever before discredits any point you tried to make in your post. Go eat a dick and allow us to mourn the once un-fucked-with trilogy that was Indiana Jones.
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I'm actually surprised no one mentioned this with all the indy "fans" here (at least I didn't see a post about it)
HIs quest for the Crystal Skull is actaully from the 8 vol. novel series. these books were an easy read and pretty awesome. Nevertheless, the skull played a roll in several of the early ones written by Rob Macgregor. I always thought that the artifact would make a cool movie. -
tongue twister it ain't!
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"Go eat a dick and allow us to mourn the once un-fucked-with trilogy that was Indiana Jones."
say's the guy who hasn't seen said "unfinished" movie. lol
it may suck, it might not. point is YOU don't know yet asshat. you are just a bitter whiner who has already made up his mind. go take your elitist future seeing worthles opinion and take your own advice. Go eat a Dick and let those of us who want to look forward to this enjoy the moments leading up to it. YOU already know it sucks so the fact you just wanna cry and bitch about it all day say's a lot about YOU. get a life whiner. ha ha
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Works for me.
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for endless bad talkback title puns...
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Ka-ra-TE.
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Always good for a laugh that electric boogaloo.
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I had to do it....sorry.
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When Temple of Doom was released, everyone simply called it Raiders 2. Then when The Last Crusade was released, everyone called it Indy 3. After a while though the titles warm up to the audience and now they are all refered to as "Temple of Doom and "Last Crusade" or "Temple" and "Crusade".
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Go jack off to The Terminal and the shitty War of the Worlds remake and I'll stick with the Spielberg films he made before he became a washed up hack. Live and let live, deal?
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Oh wait, it's NOT "The Crystal Maze"? Never mind then......
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Its no wonder that the greatest film he was ever involved in, was the one he had the least input into -- THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. I'm not a hater, I mean I love STAR WARS (my faves being ESB, ANH, and ROTS, yes, ROTS), but whenever I hear stuff about Lucas and the writing process, I cringe. He simple can't write dialogue. A BRILLIANT idea man, no doubt, but a terrible writer and not a very good director either.
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"Go jack off to The Terminal and the shitty War of the Worlds remake and I'll stick with the Spielberg films he made before he became a washed up hack. Live and let live, deal? "
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Yeech. I'm hoping Lucas will pull a "Revenge of the Jedi" and change the title before the movie's actually released--- maybe he'll decide then that Indy wouldn't be the type of archeologist who'd go looking for a "Crystal Skull"?
The Lost Ark of the Covenant: YES. The Holy Grail: YES. Something grand, something historic, something mythic---
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Shia takes an eye-rolling ride on Jeff Gannon's pole. Indy watches lustfully.
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Undesirables crash Shia's coming-of-age extravaganza. Indy must save the party.
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Nothing better on a Sunday than a nice rocking chair and a cold glass of Country Time Lemonade.
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Live and and fuck yourself. And excuse me as I go whack of to "The Terminal" which I honestly love.
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When Shia swaps the Torah with a Hustler, hilarity ensues. Co-starring Emile Hirsh as the other Jewish kid.
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What's wrong with you?
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If it means I get the role, then yeah, I'm quarter Jewish too. L'Chaim!
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RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK is a great title. The perfect title. And it's most certainly not as "long and goofy" as INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. It's not even as many syllables as KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL alone. Just the acronym for the new title is long to type: IJATKOTCS. Please Lucasfilm, I am begging you (and I'm apparently not alone) to pull a "REVENGE OF THE JEDI" and change this title. It's not too late, you haven't released the teaser trailer or poster yet. INDIANA JONES AND THE CITY OF THE GODS sounded monumental and epic. This new title isn't bad, it's just really goofy. Like one of the Indiana Jones books or videogames but certainly not for a feature film.
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I still hope it is!
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After "The Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones" you were expecting....nuance?
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Sep 10, 2007 6:04:55 PM CDT
INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF THE KURT WHO LAUGHS
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
I laughed and laughed, fucking fuck it.
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And not everything the guy said turned out to be legit. He insisted the title was going to be "Crown of the Pharoah"(sic) and tried to pass off a shitty fan-made poaster as his "irrefutable proof" that he had a connection to the production. In fact, most of what he said was stuff that could be found in other sources or on CHUD, He just collected them, threw them out here like he was divulging some insider" info and made up everything else that held the tidbits together because he thought it was what we'd want to hear. The fucker was like Supershadow, making shit up to get his jollies from all the attention we gave him.
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to your point, though, this title is only one syllable off of the full Raiders title (6 vs 7). And the acronyms would be nearly just as long IJATROTLA - Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark IJATKOTCS - IJ and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls Now, i knwo the original title of the first Indy film was simply "Raiders of the Lost Ark", which is still how I refer to it, but technically, just like "Star Wars" is now "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope", that IS the title. And it's not all that different. peace
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Raiders of the Lost Ark = cool title. Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark = Lame title
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The title is INDIANA JONES AND THE ADVENTURES OF THE LOOSE DENTURES.
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...then I have no doubt you'll love Indy and the cocks.
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Indiana Jones and the Hunt for Red October
Indiana JOnes and the Hunt for Blue Viagra.
Indiana Jones and the Search for Spock.
Indiana Jones and Billy Zane get it on in purple spandex.
Indiana Jones and the Hunt for P*ssy
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Dumb
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Indiana Jones and the Hunt for Red October
Indiana JOnes and the Hunt for Blue Viagra.
Indiana Jones and the Search for Spock.
Indiana Jones and Billy Zane get it on in purple spandex.
Indiana Jones and the Hunt for P*ssy
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Dumb
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This never gets old!
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I think he got banned eventually because all of his posts are gone. Here's the two where he really exposed his assholiness http://tinyurl.com/2zx9po
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at least they still "fight the good fight"
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That title's a dang mouthful.
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Maybe, if this is really an Atlantis movie, we'll see that giant fish that chased after Qui Gon Jinn and that dude from trainspotting.
Oh, Steven, Steven, Steven...Was this title the cost of being able to resurrect Dr. Jones? Did George really make you do it?
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The Indiana Jones Adventure ride (much like the one in the Anaheim Disneyland) is called "Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Crystal Skull." That's fishy...
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in the paperback novels and flushed it out into its own ride.
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the crystal skull was made by aliens..that's gonna be the twist..the end will harken back to "Close Encounters"
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If there are any refernces to aliens, it will be a red herring. Something of "unspeakable power" will be what's behind whatever is going on (I'm guessing that would be the crystal skull), and in order to cover it up, the government instead leads people to believe there are UFO's causing weird things to happen/be seen. I have a very hard time believing Indy will have a true "close encounter". It just doesn't fit with the Indyverse.
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No I love the KOCS (Kingdom OF the Crystal Skull) :).
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Sep 10, 2007 6:57:36 PM CDT
Rob Zombie's Indiana Jones and The Vile of Crystal Meth
by dr gregory house
Starring Sig Haig as Jones and Sherri Moon as Marion. A vile of meth that has been stolen by inbreeders from a rival trailer park and Jones must get it back before people sober up, get jobs, stop crankin' out babies and get off welfare.
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Sep 10, 2007 7:02:03 PM CDT
You guys are lucky Ford doesn't know how to get online.
by flim springfield
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http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_sku=IJGTMTT&rid=SMCMFH00001Remove the space on that link.
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U all wud B pwned! 4 reel! Noobs!
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But the title is RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. The title IN the film hasn't changed. The only reason that Lucasfilm refers to it as INDIANA JONES AND THE RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (besides the fact that he likes to lessen his earlier films by revision) is so all the DVD's at Blockbuster or wherever will have all three Indiana Jones films next to each other instead of RAIDERS being over with the R's. Because Joe Average is a dumbfuck. And by the way the U.S. National Film Registry for the Library of Congress has STAR WARS and RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK preserved as "culturally, historically, or esthetically important" films. No "INDIANA JONES AND THE" bullshit or "EPISODE IV: A NEW HOPE" nonsense.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think they broke that info the same morning he started saying it. Which is why people started calling BS and asking him to come up with specific details nobody found anywhere else. Jett came up with details, but they were completely fabricated to appease his captive TB audience. I wish he hadn't been banned because if you could read the bullshit he was writing in those later TB's you'd see what a douche he was. E-mail Mori if you want his recapped opinion that Jett was leading us all on.
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Just stop please. It has become patently obvious that you are Jettl93. I read the name Mutt long before you(he) mentioned it here.
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I know why Lucas did it with the titles. I wasn't saying one is "right or not", just that Lucas tried to re-brand them for his own purposes. I am not a proponent of going back to mess with art once it's done. It's reflective of when it's done and it should be left alone. Most certainly not to be fucked with for some marketing purpose.
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As well as WalMart, according to the LA Times: http://tinyurl.com/3x6gsp
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Because TWO HD COMPETING FORMATS ARE JUST NOT ENOUGH, DAMBIT!
http://tinyurl.com/3xv49v for the scoop. "HD VMD discs, which hold up to 30GB on a single side, are encoded with a maximum bit rate of 40 megabits per second; that's within spitting distance of Blu-ray's 48 mbps, and quite a bit more than 36 mbps for HD DVD. The format uses MPEG-2 and VC1 video formats to encode at 1080p resolution for the time being, and will possibly move to the H.264 format in the future."
...The HD VMD format supports up to 7.1-channel Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, and DTS audio output, though it will not offer the high-bit-rate Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio surround-sound codecs.
Jeebus...at least these guys are going to the mat with a $150 HD-VMD player.
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http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=10883 I'm not sure this is the first place the "Mutt" thing was broken, but this story hit the same time Jett started talking about it on AICN. Coincidence? I think not. Oh, and one9deuce, krack's not "JettL93". he was already here (and if memory serves, under a different name before being randomly banned for no reason)
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...with about 100 players sitting on the floor next to my TV (all obsolete every 3 years of course).
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Incredibly Stupid Title!
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that made the crystal skull. Are we going to have watch them walk around in muddy water for 20 minutes like in War of the Worlds?
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Attack of the Clones and look how that turned out...oh shit.
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haha Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade For The Holy Grail In The Cresent Canyon. that comment touched me....down there.
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THATS THE TITLE...thats the title...thats the title...this is a lie...this is a lie.....*rocks back and forth in corner of the room* seriously, if youre going to introduce aliens into the Indy universe, surely Destroyer of Worlds has that great 50's vibe? am I right or am I right?
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... the kid was a liar. He took info he found elsewhere and passed it off as "his," and every single "exclusive fact" he presented is FALSE, not true.
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and see what you come up with. If I had more time, I'd research it, but with Jett's comments now gone, it's harder to pinpoint, though I think it was on one of those links I posted that it first comes up. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It is interesting to speculate HOW those tidbits got out, but I do not think that JettL93 had any validity to his claims. If he did come by some veritable info, it was purely by coincidental association with something quasi-reputable.
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Somebody earlier in this TB mentioned this show and how the expert concluded it was made later than the site in which it was discovered. I like Mayans and all, but I have to think there's more reliability in science than oral tradition passed down over 3,600 years. Still, it DOES certainly fule the imagination - which is what Indy is all about.
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whatever the title may be.
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I kind of giggled at that one...
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Because being on par with "Congo" is about as good as this flick can hope for...
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Remember, Episodes I-III were great, right?
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as the guy on the youtube clip called it. Much better imo and a bit indy retro. How about just calling it RAIDERS OF THE SKULL OF DOOM?
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No need to see the movie now.
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I never really understood the concept of skull-fucking. I'm gonna Wiki it.
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Yet not as cool as Raiders of the Lost Ark, Temple of Doom, or The Last Crusade. I'm surprised they went with such a long subtitle actually, but seeing as every other title under the sun has been guessed except for Indiana Jones and Jane Fonda's Armpit, I shouldn't be. I'm having my fun mocking it, but I do hope I can enjoy the movie. It's just I feel, once again, that they're out of touch with what I want to see and their picking such an awkward mouthful of a title is the first clue. Probably no coincidence that I thought the best of the Star Wars prequels was Revenge of the Sith, the only with a title that sounds like true Star Wars to me. I know, don't judge a book by its cover or a movie by its title...but it's still not the greatest title. City of the Gods sounded a thousand times better.
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Like I said, it might just as well have been Indiana Jones AND THE Crystal OF THE Skull AND THE Kingdom WITH THE Crystalmakers AND Lucas's mom.
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Just felt it had to be said
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Calista's in the mood for teh buttseks
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So Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report, Catch Me If You Can, and Munich are the works of a washed up hack? Some people like to hate for no reason I think.
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The 3600 year old Crystal Skull of actual history is probably what this is about... and it's always been said to come from Atlantis.
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Just look at the illiteration that the white jewish movie makers of today can get away with. the three repeated "K" sounds in this racially offensive title obviously imply that indiana jones is involved with the KKK. Leave it to whitie gorge Lucas to short change the black man again. First mace motherfuckin' windu gets killd by some pussy ass old white geezer, now this. They say he's making a movie about black pilots, but we've been hearing that for years - what's a brother gotta do to get some respect? Ain't it obvoius the guy has it out for black folk. Just like George Bush.
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Just to appease the black folk
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I agree... first thing, I kind of like the title. And when it stands alone Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls sounds pretty good. Much like Raiders of the Lost Ark. Adding the Indiana Jones in front makes it a little long. But So was Pirates of the Carribean - The Curse of the Black Pearl. Come on poeple - this is a great title for a classic "B" picture which is what these are supposed to invoke. Get over it. ...and LandosColt45... WTF?
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Actually I don't give a rat's ass as long as Willie Freakin' Scott is in it!!! j/k....or am I?
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AAhhh, 1987. House 2, The Second story. Royal Dano as Gramps, Arye Gross as Jesse, Jonathan Stark as Charlie, Amy Yasbeck as Jana, and Dean Cleverdon as the evil reanimated Slim. Fun memories, I still put the dvd on watch it once and a while. Another movie about Crystal skulls now?
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Sure, why not. I can go for another skull film. AS long as LUCAS doesn't FUCK IT UP!
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I'll take one for Temple of Doom, Give me two for The Last Crusade, One ticket please for The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I would feel like an ass buying a ticket for INdy 4 and saying that title out loud at the box office. Weird video. This woman is a great liar. Probably paid by the secret German craftsman coalition that really made the crystal skulls.
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Indiana Jones and the Greatest Fucking Movie Title Ever Designed To Shut Up The Dumb Motherfuckers Who Judge a Movie Based Soley on It's Name!
Yeah that would,ve been great. You Know Lucas, Speilburg, and Ford will put everything they have into this. Your childhood is not raped. Just look at the entire history of fiction, themes, characters, and stories have always, and will always be re-used and revisited. -
Allan Quartermain and The Lost City of Gold on DVD, my collection of adventuring archeologists would be complete!
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Looks intriging as hell to me. Matter of fact, I only wished there was more stuff to watch about this info!
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by itself is a fine title. But it just doesn't work with INDIANA JONES AND THE in front of it. INDIANA JONES AND THE CITY OF THE GODS is such a perfect title, the second I read that earlier in the year my anticipation for this film went from 100 to 1000 instantly. The first picture of Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones again had the same effect.
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"For Harrison's scenes we used probably 95% CGI. For the other characters, we used live actors. There's a scene in the film where we see the back of Indy's head and he has his hat on... that was Harrison."
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I can't even begin to tell you what Raiders Of The Lost Ark meant to me when it came out. It was the first movie I vividly remember seeing at the theater. I was 12 when it came out, so I know I had seen other movies at the theater ... but this one stands out as the first REAL movie I ever experienced. It was life changing for me. Reinforced a love for writing and a desire to tell stories that was already there, but burned stronger and stronger after seeing Raiders. I've been a life-long Harrison Ford fan (I know, he hasn't done a good movie in a while, but I still believe, damn it!). The movie got me interested in movies! I had to learn who these people were ... this Lucas, this Spielberg. Raiders is truly a touchstone in my life, and I for one can't wait for this movie, whatever the title is. All you talkback freaks who can do nothing but hate, maybe you should just turn off the computer and do something else for a while. Because if you're not excited about this movie, you don't really love movies. It may suck. It may suck as bad as the Star Wars prequels did. God, I hope not. But we just don't know yet. Right now, all I know for sure is that Spielberg is directing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones again. That's enough for me until the lights go down and we see what they give us. As for Ford being too old, isn't that the point? Isn't that the only real creative reason to go back to this well? Shoot, I wish Clint Eastwood would revisit Dirty Harry one more time. I was glad Stallone did Rocky Balboa, and damned if John Rambo doesn't look awesome. Hell, even John McClain held up pretty well (if you can forgive the airplane scene). Truffaut made four films following one character over the course of his life. Revisiting these fan-favorite characters and seeing their adventures from a different perspective ... it worked in Unforgiven, didn't it? I'm hoping for a rich adventure story, a chance to say goodbye to an incredible character, and a fitting end to a stunning legacy. Haters be damned.
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The reason Shia released the name of the title is for the obvious reason that they (Paramount and Lucasfilm) hope that he will be the future Indiana Jones. This might explain the title; they hope this isn't a send-off, but a total relaunch.
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It makes sense that they would want to somehow extend the franchise, especially if this one is a hit. It also makes sense that they would have Shia announce the title at the VMA's because they are obviously going to need to appeal to his and MTV's audience in order to get the crowds to the theater. What is the general consensus of Shia being in the movie and perhaps being groomed to take the franchise over? I'm a fan of him as an actor ... I hated Transformers, but thought he was okay in it. He was also good in Disturbia, a movie I enjoyed despite seeing its faults. I'm not sold on him as the next big action star ... but I have to wait to see Indy IV before deciding how I feel about him taking custody of the fedora.
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.. all be there opening weekend. I mean, what the fuck? Its Indiana Jones! By the way, didn't any of you AICN guys have anyone in Toranto to see Diary of the Dead? Where's the review? Other sites are scooping you left and right.
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His production company, Maguire Entertainment will produce for Warner Bros.
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He searches airport bathroom stalls for KOCS! Guest-starring Sen. Larry Craig!
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He battles MTV's reality TV nazis to preserve the music video! "These videos belong on the real MTV!" Guest-starring video booster Justin Timberlake!
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Harrison Ford! Angelina Jolie! Hardcore sex! Box Office gold!
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Excellent post.
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This project is starting to give off the unmistakable odor of a missed opportunity.
The Ark of the Covenant should have been the McGuffin. Along with functioning as an obvious linchpin, it would have facilitated nostalgic, bridge-building references to the first film. It would be small-minded to think that all of the Ark's secrets were revealed after its lid was removed by Belloq and the Nazis ....
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Really interesting...the woman says the crystal skulls were rumoured to come from Atlantis? Wonder if this will play out at all in the movie? Can't wait.
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"Aahhh Venice........"
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to retread a previous theme? lol c'mon dude.
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do you just not like Shia or do you not think he fits in this series?
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awesome
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Mini-Adventure opening the movie - possibly in the Army Base shown on the brief clip. Russian threat and plot points being laid down in Marshall college scenes. Introduction of Mutt and Broadbent cameo in College scenes. Action scene in college as Indy gets involved with bad guys, Mutt gets dragged along. Introduction of Marion - establishment of Mutt being a possible son of Indy. Explanation of quest. Introduction of villian. Map montage with Red-line route.Introduction of Ray Winstone. Set-piece 1 and 2. Bad guys chasing Indy's crew. Booby-traps. Set-piece 3. End.
But as to how it will end????
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its still gonna be cool movie since its probly gonna be about mayans and theres gonna be some sort of kingdom, and skulls are cool to look at. buuuut indys gonna be old and shias gonna be gay so lower your expectations a lot. i hope they play some misfits somewhere in the film.
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I like the cheese of the title. Let's hope it turns out to be better than other Lucas movies with cheesy titles such as Attack Of The Clones (aka The Worst Movie Ever Made: Except For Revenge Of The Sith)
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It's just like all those 80's italian Indy wannabe movies, remember ? Derivative, no imagination. No mystery, just DUMB.
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That does sound about right. Possibly a snake or two put in there somewhere for good meassure, and a cheesy oneliner that's only put in there to establish connection to the old movies (that's if we're lucky), but the result of it will probably only remind us how much we wish it wasn't needed. Let's only hope they won't go the route of Indy being kidnapped and saved by Marion or Shia this time instead of the other way around...
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I will eat my testicles if they do not have Indy saying to Marion - "It's not the mileage, it's the years."
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This movie has me frightened.
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Mr. Hands, we hardly knew ye ...
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I know this is the wrong talkback, but I can't go in the other one again. I feel sick.
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...by Marion of course.
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Shia LaBeouf is a tool.
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Sep 11, 2007 7:58:33 AM CDT
Hope they acknowledge that the crystal skull was a hoax
by rev_skarekroe
See http://tinyurl.com/39gt23
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http://tinyurl.com/ytvh6a
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Why do many of you hate Shia LeBeouf? And give a real reason ... not one's on this board, which range from "he's gay" to "snot-nosed kid."
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... Whitley Schreiber?
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Would have made a better title. If you ask me. Which you didn't. But i'm mentioning it anyway. :P
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Ok Maybe two:
Will this be set in Central America?
and two, why wasn't the mysteries of the Aztec's ever considered for an Indiana Jones movie before? This seems right up their alley.
I'm actually very interested, if they get into all the mysteries.
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his name sucks, his presence sucks, and he comes off like a self entitled shit that thinks the world revolves around him. in short, he needs knocked the F out.
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Sep 11, 2007 9:18:49 AM CDT
I don't like Shia because he awakens the gayness in me
by bringingsexyback
with his soft, shining Jewfro and hairless bum.
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It's a wacked out island, for sure.
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...now they are shrivelling up fast. I CAN'T believe that this will be the actual title. A monkey says it changes.
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I hope they change the title so I get some Revenge of The Jedi style memorabilia..
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Yep. Here they come. The movie automatically sucks because of the title. Admittedly, looks-wise, I'm not nuts about Shia. Haven't seen any of his movies, so I'll comment no more on that topic. As for George Lucas, I have mild concerns because of the mixed bag prequel films. Not too worried about Harrison or Spielberg, however. Here's hoping Lucas and Spielberg keep the 90's and 2000's overly-PC pussified crap out of this film. I still see some people talking or joking about CGI. It was said sometime back that as many effects as possible would be done the old-fashioned way. As for a tie-in to Raiders...if they pulled that off, it would be great. If the bookend angle sucks, then you've ruined the greatness of the original film. I'm keeping expectations low, and will probably be surprised.
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Call it whatever you want George. It'll still make money.
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http://tinyurl.com/388r2e
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http://tinyurl.com/388r2e
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and the scriptures with no words.
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Errrr...no he doesn`t!
He lost the abilty to own anyone a long long time ago,before his head was firmly lodged in his anal canal!
I`m however pretty up for a new Indy movie!
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That was the first time I heard her name. It was where the love affair began. with Back to the Future...
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"Water? No thank you fish make love in it.
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Thanks man. That was before old Supershadow Jett really started showing his true colors, though. He still sounded halfway believable there.
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You'll get your Jane Whatshername obit TB in 3 weeks. That's the typical AICN lead time. Now shut the fuck up.
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Looking at your post on http://tinyurl.com/ytvh6a you seem to have hit everything that has been revealed so far...can we take it that you are the new JettL93. except that you speak true instead of shit.
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Are you kidding? I was making that up. Marcus once got lost in his own Museum.
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Now: meh.
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Why on earth would Steven Spielburg and George Lucas and everyone agree to annouce this at the VMA's of all places? This is a MOVIE announcement at a MUSIC show. What the hell? Nobody cared at the place. You could almost hear crickets when Shia announced it. I think they overestimated how many people would care about the release of the title. My wife loves Indiana Jones, could care less about what the title is. She just wants to see the movie. LIKE MOST OF AMERICA. ON THE VMA's?!?! Stupid if you ask me.
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To announce the title on the worst television show that has ever aired doesn't bode well for the film itself.
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According to Lucas in an article that was in USA Today
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The woman hasn't aged a day in 25 years.
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Hrev_skarekroe: "I hope they acknowledge that the crystal skull was a hoax"
They could always just have Indy (or someone) replace the real ones with recent forgeries; the forgeries go on to have the history we know, and the real ones reveal their mysteries to Indy & his crew and the bad guys who have them at gunpoint. -
That would be quite a movie. Fuck watching movies in 3D, watch them on meth!
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Sheesh.
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I'm really rather envious. Twenty years ago, I'd have gone after it myself.
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If the story does "go there", that's the way it ought to be handled.
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No problem with the title. Great even, as it is truly serialistic, and that's what these movies (and Lucas) are all about - evoking that serial spirit and upscaling the action to a great cinematic experience, same as Star Wars did (prequels included – haters can just suck me). The title also is in keeping for variety in the Jones adventures. Very encouraging and exciting knowing we are dealing with another non-Christian artifact that will allow for a great deal of imagination and play.
The Jones flicks are amongst, if not, the pinnacle, of action films due mainly to Spielberg's brilliant storyboarding and choreography skills. The type of action he delivers in this series is simply a rare find these days. Most action films you see today are geared toward the ADD inflicted audience (no thanks to MTV), and edited in a manner that only succeeds in inducing headaches. It's just disgusting. Can’t wait to enjoy some well-thought out set pieces again.
I have confidence our boys will deliver yet again and anticipate no raping of childhood occurring here, rather a harkening back to it. In fact, I take issue with anyone who thinks in those terms. I’ve got a sense of nostalgia, but I’ll be damned if I'll allow anyone, or anything, to tread upon it. To do otherwise is like admitting you have no ability to keep the good in your life. Sad, in my opinion.
Anyway, looking forward to summer of '08 and all it has to offer, but this baby above all.
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I dunno. I'm making this up as I go.
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Check out this one form AUgust. I never thought it'd actually be any of them on that list. http://tinyurl.com/2m5s5w
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Spielberg said he wanted to work with Lucas and Ford one more time. It's really that simple. I mean, you don't think he actually does ANYTHING for the money anymore do you?
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It evokes a gleefully b-movie vibe. What the fuck is this crystal skull and why is there a kingdom named after it? I don't know, but I can't wait to find out.
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I may be out of the loop, but wasn't Lucas the ONLY one with a problem with that script, I had heard Spielberg and Ford were high on it. That makes this a good thing right?
Anyway, I like the title, I like Shia LeBouf's involvement and dig the hell out of how hot Karen Allen still is. Very happy. ANyone know if this is Digital or Celluloid? -
An old geezer can still dream.......
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(1) He mistakes over-exuberant youthful witticisms and patois for real acting and infusion of character into a role.
(2) He's fucking Rihanna. Under her umbrella - ella- ella- ey- ey- ey - ey- eh-eh.
(3) He was the furthest fucking thing from Chas in CONSTANTINE that you could possibly imagine. I don't completely blame him... but he WAS complicit... in taking the role!
(4) Being in TRANSFORMERS, therefore being in the same trajectory as the goddess Megan Fox.
(5) Spielberg worships the kid. Last time that happened, we got Haley Joel Osment. Shudder.
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Yes, slone13, simply stated. But yeah, I gotta say this is yet another item of debate typical of the TB forum - accusing Spielberg and Lucas of just doing it for the money. It’s a given that money is a motivating factor behind any venture, so to argue as such, that’s naïve and entirely beside the point. The beauty behind Spielberg and Lucas’s legacies is the fact they became filthy rich doing what they love. Who doesn’t want that in life? Even better they still put an immense amount of passion in their movies despite the fact they don’t need the money. So when Spielberg says he's doing this film for the fans, it means he's doing his best not to disappoint them and deliver on what they want to see. He could care less about the money. Don’t forget that the money any film makes is entirely dependent on the people who pay to go see it. The filmmakers themselves never have any guarantees of success, even if they are Spielberg. All of you guarantee that success when you pay to see the movie in the first few days of it opening, likely a few more times beyond that, and regardless of how much skepticism you spew beforehand. And so you should. These movies rock.
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Indiana Jones and the Search for the Rubber Pants.
Indiana Jones and the Prune of the Gods
Indiana Jones and the Cane of Methuselah
Indiana Jones and the Last Bowel Movement
Indiana Jones and the Hair Plug of Samson
Indiana Jones and the Search for the Fallen Arches
Indiana Jones and the Walker of Doom
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this talkback is on a respirator and looks about as healthy as ET laying in that creek.
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Listen Lucas and Speilberg if you fuck this up both of your careers are over..........its not the old days anymore.
Indiana Jones is bigger than both of you...you guys don't need the money.
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Hope it's not a let down.
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Has Spielberg or Lucas come out and said this will be the last of the Indy movies or is this just the beginning of another series?
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Crystal skulls, pan flutes, waterfalls, and feng shui temples. Here's a pic of De Niro and Pacino on set in Righteous Kill:
http://tinyurl.com/2j8nzo
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If that's true...in the beginning of "Raiders", Indy would have snapped Belloq's neck right away, Rambo-style.
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Sorry about that, I thought that there would be a hook somewhere. I love archeology, it is fascinating. I just thought that there would be a hook for the movie.
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Merrick's son, you have my condolences...
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But I can see a YouTube parody with John Rambo and the Lost Ark in the making! Instead of going after the Ark on horseback, he'd just shoot an explosive arrow at the truck, blowing up the Nazis AND the Ark and ending it's potential peril once and for all. You think John Rambo would have run from Lao Che and sons behind a gong? Hell no. He'd have taken all them out, spit in their bloodoed faces and said, "Ay, Lao, like the lady says, 'anything goes'." Then blow up Club Obi Wan on the way out just for good measures.
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It depends on where the actor/director/composer/lighting guru/songwriter/unwitting celebrity ranks on the list of favorites among the AICN proprietors. Maybe Wyman just doesn't rank as high as Anna Banana. She's truly outrageous, ya know.
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I guess, I'm just stating the obvious here. Of course, perhaps they're all busy right now and one of them is working on it, but hasn't completed it yet.
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"Are you denying the nature of politics on AICN?"
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found it interesting that the indy IV title reveal didn't make it into the incredibly long mtv awards report of my region's newspaper. keep this tb running, guys. maybe until I start to really like the title...
as cate blanchett told ew: "AND HARRISON LOOKS FUCKING GREAT" good night. -
at a giant costume warehouse in north hollywood. there will definitely be Incas/Mayans whatever involved in this film. Also saw lots of nun costumes. That's all I got.
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Tekanes! :D
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Is Lucas trying to confess something to us?
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I mean really...
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were any leaked?
is this movie going to be related to aliens at all like i previously heard?
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Looking forward to it.
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So, how do they know it's real? Remember when they found the tomb of Jesus's brother a few years back? It turned out to be bullshit. The guy was a semteic zealot who wanted to disprove Christianity and Islam. Other than that, it seems like a weak Maguffin. Hope I'm wrong. Hail Xenu!
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Indiana Jones and Where in the Hell did my ten bucks I paid to see this go??!!!!
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Indiana Jones and who in the Hell is going to give me my ten bucks back??!!! Just don't screw this up.
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...Starring... Brittany Spears, Eminem, Paris Hilton, and... George Lucas. Next on MTV.
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I hope Lucas and Spielberg are bracing themselves for the constant jokes.
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...And The Creeping Fear.
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You've got great film vets that for the first time in a long time have their backs against the wall to re-establish that credibility that initially made them famous (even Spielberg has to prove he can still be fun).
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Until I get a Top Chef Talkback. Top Chef > Jane Wyman. Capiche?
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Indy V can go forward under that title.
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Sep 11, 2007 11:41:58 PM CDT
WHERE'S THE OBIT TB FOR LARRY CRAIG'S SENATE CAREER?
by bringingsexyback
He would have made the Gipper ashamed to be a Republican. Jane Wyman would've disapproved too I bet.
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in the White House, like Bush does?
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Pinko Castro-loving Commie Socialist America-hating Pinko Scum ...
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Sep 11, 2007 11:48:07 PM CDT
12:47 NOW. STILL WAITING FOR THAT JANE WYMAN TALKBACK!
by bringingsexyback
I will not sleep until Jane Wyman gets respect.
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Indy's greatest adventure yet.
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That is all.
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Looks Like A Boy.
Seriously, Calista Flockhart looks like she took Dr Atkins seriously.
Ketosis my fat ass.
God wants you all to be fat...the God of IEATATIHOP.
Harrison Ford in They Call Me MR PIBB!
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....is apparently already selling freakin t-shirts with the "exclusive" new KOCS logo on 'em. Wow, that was quick. It's barely been 48 hrs since they dropped the title on us. Let alone the movie doesn't even open til nearly a year from now! Jeez, what a bunch of merch whores.
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Damned perfect dude...**PERFECT**.There were some funny titles, but you pwned 'em all.
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Have you any idea how much money Spielberg and Lucas have? It's not like they need any more money. They twigged they were sitting on the greatest action adventure character of all time, hadn't made a film with him for 18 years and finally twigged that life is short. A Jones movie from an older Spielberg will be a fascinating thing to watch.
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Sorry..but I don't buy it. Shia gave us a fake title to throw us all off the scent. There is no way that Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull is the real title!! George Lucas has a history of throwing fake titles out there..this is just another!
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And nobody's said "Lucas gotta eat KOCS" either. What's with you people today?
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you're in deep denial buddy!
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http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=igor+jijinke
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enough said
don't bore the world with any more sequels, prequels and remakes
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I find it hard to believe there are film fans out there NOT looking forward to this film. After sitting through years of crap Spider Man, Pirates of the Caribbean and other lacklustre summer movies here comes a film with real promise and real talent behind it and people diss it. Strange. The people making this movie are Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Janusz Kaminski, John Williams, Harrison Ford, Karen Allen, Cate Blanchett, John Hurt, Ray Winstone and Jim Broadbent. A classy line-up. The only unknown quantity was Shia but I enjoyed the hell out of his performance in Transformers, he was practically the only good thing in it.
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Even if what yassoo saw was definitely marked for "The Genre" film, I'm not sure nuns and Maya/Inca costumes mean a whole lot to anyone at this point. But thanks for the observation.
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That the man look slike Christian Bale with a Rasputin beard. Perhaps instead of this silly crystal skull and aliens bit, Indy should be going after the 'mysterious' bones of Rasputin, which the Reds are also looking for, and which could SOMEHOW end the world if they were to fall into the wrong hands. By which I mean LAO CHE!!!! dunh dunh dunh!!
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You know Lucas made his first billion almost solely off the Star Wars MERCHANDISING, right? The guy was going broke getting things done before that. But he learned MERCHANDISING is where the really big bucks are to be made. He made enough in merchandising off Star Wars in 1977 alone to build the Sktwalker Ranch AND almost fully fund the entire production of Empire. And he still had money in the bank. That said, of course the guy's goign to continue pimping his popular properties for money. It's not greed. It's just where he makes his bucks to do all the other stuff he wants to do. Like....uh..well, stuff.
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up with?....guess it'll grow on us till next summer..the most important thing is the movie not the title..jebus i'm being optimistic..
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or revenge of the skull.....
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"here comes a film with real promise and real talent behind it"
Seriously? Oh no, you didn't!
SPIELBERG: Let's hope it's the 'Berg that made MUNICH, 'cos if it's the one who made WAR OF THE WORLDS... oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
LUCAS: STAR WARS PREQUELS. Enough said.
FORD: Mid-life crisis (remember the fucking EARRING?!?!?). Dating Calista Flockhart. Mentoring Josh "Monotone Human Yawn" Hartnett. Not doing a good movie in YEARS.
LEBEEF: I STILL want an apology for CONSTANTINE. He was okay in TRANSFORMERS. Seems to be a one-trick pony, though: he's getting by on the wise-cracking kid sidekick shtick. And last time the 'Berg took a shine to a kid, the world got Haley Joel Osment and Dakota Fanning. Who both creep me the fuck out. 'Nuff said.
I will give you Janusz Kaminski, John Williams, Karen Allen (thank God - Marion is BACK!), Cate Blanchett, John Hurt, Ray Winstone and Jim Broadbent. Some solid actors there. But then we had Liam Neeson, Celia Imrie, Ralph Brown, Terence Stamp, Pernilla August, Hugh Quarshie and Ewan McGregor in a hotly anticipated movie back in '99... and all that thespian class couldn't defeat a virtual Keanu Reeves. Whoa.
The track record of the progenitors of the Indy series ain't inspiring of late. They've very much seemed to have lost that magic sense of what the audience wants these days. They're rich, comfortable, and not at all fired up to change the world with their movies any more. They don't care what the fans think. At least one of them will treat this like an SFX exercise, not a proper narrative.
Like the hero of their best work once said, "I gotta bad feeling about this."
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why not wait and see the movie before you criticise it though. Of course money is a factor but Spielberg and Lucas have been running along quite nicely without Indy for 20 years. And i'm not a starry-eyed guy thanks M-O-M, I just sense a good vibe coming off this flick. I'm one of the few who think Temple of Doom was much better than Last Crusade and i'm glad Connery isn't around to do his lazy schtick. I'm looking forward to this one. Spielberg still makes good movies and Lucas isn't directing, so I think Indy will display their combined strengths and not their weaknesses. We'll find out in 8 months time.
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earring = valid point. what was Ford thinking?
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that the film will have a scene where Indy places his fedora on Shia's head and says something fatherly at the end of the story. I'm ok with the title, looking forward to the trailer!
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Indiana Jones and the Drums of Fu Manchu
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The Crystal Skulls mystery will be awsome for Indiana Jones to tackle. Can't wait for this.
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Did you just say Harrison Ford is having a mid-life crisis? Mid-life is at 35. Harrison Ford is 65 years old, dude. That's retirement age, he was mid-life 30 years ago when he made Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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search your feelings, you know it to be true. in Raiders he was great, still feeling the role, but in Temple he's a total cynical sly badass, honing that role to perfection, in Crusade it was alternating between pissy-face to little boy act. It's almost comparing his Han Solo, in Wars he's good but in Empire he's SPACE PIMP, and in Jedi well he's mellowed out well understandably since it's the end of his character progression from pirate to leader.
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I stand corrected. Harrison is having a coffin-dodging crisis. An old-age crisis. Making an arse of himself. You know what I mean.
Cool name, by the way. By Northlander, you mean Cimmerian??
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from different sources online.
SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL is about the ancient skull or 13 skulls said to be so old and made so well as to defy human creation.
i believe abner ravenwood is alive. there is also a new abner "mutt" ravenwood played by shia who is marion's son, perhaps with indy.
at the beginning there is a chase involving mutt and indy on a motorcycle being chased by black cars. they go through the buildings and outside the campus.cate blanchett is the villan, a russian woman who can swordfight. they go to south america to find the crystal skull i guess. there was also a part outside area 51. -
while at it they should have made Shia reveal even more secrets of current film production-...like...the THERE WILL BE BLOOD trailer... or a teaser for YOUTH WITHOUT YOUTH... The audience would have gone mad.
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one. He just seemed more assured, also since it takes place prior to Raiders he's like a greedy asshole though flamboyant (the beginning it's like Bogart meets Bond), he just seemed sharper in it, more domineering, and where he plays off Shorty (who's probably the most likeable child sidekick in film history, quite a feat) are very sweet, just like pals. In Raiders it was a bit more like "aw shucks here we go" where he's pressed into it but that's cool too! but again if it came to ranking i'd go Temple, he's the wreckmaster, the bridge scene is his greatest moment ever "he no nuts, he crazy!". But really though Raiders+Temple were ace, it's Crusade aka IJINO we have to watch out for.
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RATED-R. NOW I'd stand in line to see that! Indiana Jones takes a trip around the world without ever leaving his house!
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Better not screw this up. If this film will suck your work is all that is left to put a meaning to this whole production. If they fail...I hope you were there. None is interested in the talking heads bullshit anymore. Do something really engaging and gritty instead. ...like...
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I agree with those here who like Temple of Doom the most. He was at his best character wise in that one, in my opinion. It is also a great adventure/horror film. And I like how there was no Christianity in that one.
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If I had to judge which movie portrayed Indy at his best, I would say Temple. But from a pure enjoyment factor as far as which movie was best, I would say Raiders. I loved how the last 1/3 of the movie turned into one big chase and how neither side was going to give up.
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when you'll appreciate the wonderful layers of LAST CRUSADE...and the relative depth it gave Indy's character. Maybe it will be around the time when Shia announces the title of Mutt Ravenwood, PI IX at 2025's VMAs. Maybe it will be when I'll finally realize Last Crusade's travesty. It may appear dull but I love the juvenile, naive and at the same time rugged and already aged Indy in RAIDERS, I love the Bogart, fatherfigure Indy going to hell of TEMPLE and I love the sensitive, doubting and more human and weak than ever Indy of CRUSADE. good night
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/Col_Kilgore/SHH/indy.jpg
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i can't belive I've never heard of this Ruby Quartz skull thang or whatever it is. The additional youTube (shameLessPlug) Viddie wuz motherLove'en Kreepy with an capital motherFukken Kay dude
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it. The other two were awesome too though.
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is easily the best of the trilogy after RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. Good points on that by several posters here. Not only does LAST CRUSADE suck as an adventure film, but it sucks as an Indiana Jones film because Indiana Jones isn't even in it! I don't know who that character was. He looked like Indiana Jones but he didn't sound too much like him anymore and he sure as hell didn't act like Indiana Jones. KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL is growing on me. Although the title is mostly irrelevent compared to the quality of the film. Of course, this film IS being made for money though, please don't anybody fool themselves into thinking otherwise. Neither Lucasfilm or Dreamworks or Paramount would EVER let a property as valuable as INDIANA JONES be dormant forever. Having Shia reveal the title on the VMA's(!) means they are targeting the younger demographic that might not know the films. Just the fact that Shia is IN THE MOVIE proves they want to appeal to a younger demographic that has free time and disposable income. The movie can still be good, but hopefully no one here is deluded about the true motivation behind making it. And if this film is a megahit (300 million+) I can guarantee that we will see the continuing adventures of Mutt Ravenwood.
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I think Sly is onto something here...
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because he was nostalgic about playing the character. Ford is/was the richest actor until Mel Gibson made a fortune off the Passion. Spielberg and Lucas are the two richest people on the planet. They don't need the money. I believe Spielberg when he says he's making this entirely for the fans.
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That pic just makes him look like a dorky old guy with his hat like that and the beer:
This isn't as bad: http://www.harrisonfordweb.com/gallery1/gallery1.html
And here he looks great:
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I think Raiders is by far the best but Temple of Doom is a rollicking adventure and I love the darkness in it. The mine chase and rope bridge scene are awesome and still stand up today, totally cinematic. The action in Last Crusade is stale and lazily filmed and all feels a bit second hand. I feel sorry for Spielberg saying that he doesn't look back on it with any fondness. I also agree with those who say Indy wasn't Indy in Last Crusade. It seemed like a completely different character from Raiders/Doom. Let's hope Spielberg and Ford get back to some good old-fashioned swashbuckling entertainment. If not, well, we'll always have Raiders and Doom.
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...By which I mean, Lucas and Spielberg will spend the GDP of a small country on making a TV series (or movie trilogy) out of a character most of us already hate, because of the fucking sacrilege involved when you take a classic character like Indiana Jones and try to replace him with Indy Mark II Mutt Ravenwood - which, let's face it, WILL BE SHIT. I don't care how much teenage energy Shia brings to the role, he just doesn't have that natural charisma and effortless cool that Harrison has as Indy, and the only other person who does is Nathan Fillion - who would be the perfect Young Indy were it not for the fact he already played that role as Mal in FIREFLY and SERENITY. So, they should make INDY IV, make it good, then just fucking stop.
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...Do what we all did when Young Indy the TV series came out. DON'T WATCH THAT SHIT!
Better still: bring back BRISCO COUNTY JR!!! Bruce Cambell as a cowboy riffing on the Indy character - there's nothing cooler than that!!!!! -
Spud: yeah I got what you mean and I don't disagree it looks like an old age crisis. Mom, I got the memo, I just didn't read it because you didn't put a cover sheet on it. We do that now with all memos, mmmkay?
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youre probly not gonna like him in this one. i doubt he'll be as fast and adventurous as he was in any of the films (but if he says 'i'm too old for this shit' or let's shia do most of the stunts i'll track down and shoot lucas and spielberg myself). i had no problem with him in III, watched it again recently and he to me seemed to be the same character, he imediately started hitting on the chick seconds after he met her (not that indy did that in any other movies but it keeps him like the james bond type character originally concieved by lucas and spielberg) and he still seemed really excited about archaeology when he talked about it. all 3 movies, while being about the same character, all have different feels to them so I have no complaints, except for the shitty blue screen in temple of doom during the plane crash and rapids, buti thought harrison did fine.
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Surely that pic ain't Indy. It looks like my toothless great-grandfather!
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Yes- “the title is mostly irrelevant (sic) compared to the quality of the film.”
Yes- “Of course, this film IS being made for money…Neither Lucasfilm or Dreamworks or Paramount would EVER let a property as valuable as INDIANA JONES be dormant forever.”
Yes- “Having Shia reveal the title on the VMA's(!) means they are targeting the younger demographic”
Very Likely- “if this film is a megahit…we will see the continuing adventures of Mutt Ravenwood.”
But why that insist either Raiders or ToD MUST be the “better” Indiana Jones film? I like talking Indy as much as the next fan, but these two films are obviously very different in the Indyverse. Apples and oranges, folks. And for people that prefer one kind to another, you’re never going to “prove your point”.
To say one film showers a “truer” Indy than another assumes a logical flaw that there IS a “true” Indy. Why is the “true” Indy more cynical than kick-ass? Or vice versa? Indy is all these things. Above all, he’s human, giving him the range to be all those things, and more, but at different times. Just like other human beings we show varying amounts of our diverse personalities based on the experiences affecting out lives. People mature and change (well, most anyway). Indy did too.
Each movie portrays a different side of Indy. Each one is a different kind of adventure. It’s okay to have a favorite, but to insist one is truly “better” than another is just silly.
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Fuck proofreading!
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Somebody breakout the life raft. There's "NO MORE PARACHUTES!"
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in a equine sense, of course
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flock of seagulls!
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that chopped up Pat Roach, then blew up.
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Had to break up your posts finky..
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I like the title. Good 30's serial ring to it. (I was kind of hoping for "City of the Gods", but whatever.) Hail Indy.
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Yeah, Pat Roach was cool. Roles in the Indy films and also such genre gems as Conan the Destroyer, Red Sonja, Willow, etc.
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Says he doesn't look back on Temple of Doom fondly because it wasn't received well. He loves to please people. He also liked Last Crusade the best because it's the most personal for him (it deals with his preoccupation with fathers and whatnot more than Temple of Doom, and certainly more than Raiders). If you want a personal film or more emotional experience, Last Crusade is probably the way to go. If you want the best damn adventure movie ever made, Raiders is the way to go. Temple is like a mix of the two (Father-son relationship but with a lot of action), with some darker aspects to boot. For my money Raiders is the best, but a lot of folks like Last Crusade, interestingly enough. To each his own, I suppose.
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is this a 1930s soap opera or the 1930s James Bond? It's just like with the Star wars prequels, adding all this backstory nonsense, no one cares to see his family. Another reason i like Temple of Doom the most, no strings attached, even in Raiders he has his old flame, Crusade wasn't IJ so that doesnt count, but this Shiat Son Shit in the current one. what? In TEMPLE he just had his little pal, and some hot tail. i also like how he's given his mission in Raiders/Temple by the CIA/village elders. like M briefing Bond.
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just stop. You obviously don't have insider information, and you certainly don't know what you're talking about concerning the movie business. And you can't spell. You can annoy though. You're great at that.
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Enough! Enough already. You pissy ass fanboys think you know it all, or want to sound like you know it all. It's all bullshit! I don't know why I even bother putting my two cents in on these stupid TBs, but I can't help it. You're all so ignorant. You all want the greatest film ever made! You even think the SW prequels were stupid. Rapings of childhood and money-mongering my ass. You should be happy you're alive to see such great films being made. These are the ultimate exercises in imagination. You want better? Do it yourself! Oh, that's right, you can't. Which is why you're wasting your time on this bullshit site in the first place. Oh my god. What a breakthrough.
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Why are you so hung up on the whole "it's only for the money" thing. What fucking movie isn't made for the money? What do you expect? That they'd make it purely for art's sake and just have free screenings everywhere? There's simply no getting around the money factor. It's the system, and no one can escape that, not even the most principled of artists. It's pointless to bring up the fact at all. Lamest argument ever. Thank god they're doing it for the money, otherwise, we'd probably have no movie to look forward to at all next summer. And you all know you are excited about it and want to see it no matter how much you're ragging on it now. I am God. Thank you and shut up.
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You're ignorant. Yes, 99% of films are made to make money. But there is a big difference between a director filming a story that's important to him and a studio putting out a product. This film is dangerously close to the latter. I'm sure they are enjoying themselves and want to make a good film, but having Shia LeBeouf in the film it is a DELIBERATE attempt to pull in the younger demographic. You should hear what goes on some meetings, it would blow your mind how little the executives care about making great films versus making lots of money. The second thing is WAY more important in Hollywood than the first. Like it or not, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas aren't maverick directors trying to tell the stories they've had in their minds since childhood anymore, they are both executives at their respective studios. And with that comes the responsibility to your employees to make money. Period.
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He has ABSOLUTELY no personal stake in how much it grosses. I mean sure he wants it to be successful but this is not why he is making this movie. It will rock. And you can hardly accuse of a man who took the time to make The Terminal and Munich (two of his finest films) of being only after money.
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How can you get down on somebody for being responsible to their employees? These guys followed their bliss and now reap the rewards because of it. Now ya all just stop being so jealous of their success and enjoy what they have to offer. It beats the shit our of 99% of the stuff out there and that has something to do with actually caring about what you're doing, not just putting out some measly product. Now leave me alone, George is calling me from the bedroom.
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They should name this movie "Indiana Jones & The Killer Of Children's Dreams." Or maybe just "Tim."
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Last Crusade was such a perfect series-ending title that I could bathe in it.
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Indiana Jones and the Whore of Babylon. And of course, my ultimate dream: Indiana Jones and the Call of Cthulu.
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Sep 13, 2007 10:40:29 PM CDT
INDANA JONES & THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL CLUSTERF#CK.
by 'cholera's ghost
There has to be something grittier out there. Crystals make me think of hippies and jewelry.
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One way they could have made it is by using a real skull. by covering a real skull in somekind of primitive plastor. after it dries, remove the plastor. make a tiny hole and with a straw like device with a wide end. poor the liquid crystal. after it dries. remove the plastor and you have the crystal skull. just a thought, because it looks too perfect not to have been a mold.
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Just because spielberg doesn't have producer cred, it doesn't mean he won't get a piece of the gross. It's very likely both he and Ford will.
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and a whole other selection of random unamusing titles to follow, courtesy of the AICN Talbackers!
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...and the Scrotal Liverspot.
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and the Sunken Treasure of Lake Flacid.
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and the Nostril Hair Trimmer of Doom.
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The title of the first Star Wars movie is "Star Wars," and the title of the first Indiana Jones movie remains "Raiders of the Lost Ark." I don't care what happened later that made the producers want to pull their revisionist BS and retcon the names. I don't care if the similar titles in a series make the slipcases look consistent on a DVD shelf. And Han shot first, bitches
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I can't understand why a lot of people prefer Last Crusade over Raiders. ROTLA is an immortal classic movie. It will never be bettered.
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Sorry, but as others have pointed out, Speilberg definitely gets a cut of the profits. He hasn't been a hired gun since the 70's.
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stake IS NOT as big as it would normally be. Also, think about this, generally speaking the better the movie the more it should gross, or at the very least not less.
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I hope he makes a cameo driving around in an Escalade with Chunk talking about how Shia ain't GoONie enough for this mission.
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Lucas felt like that with the prequels too, and he also seem to feel he actually accomplished that. The problem is that what he considders a great star wars movie and what the rest of the world considders a great star wars movie are two different things.
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I picture the conversation's tone being like Travolta and SLJ's in the car in Pulp Fiction. Data, do you know what they call a Godfather's pizza in Paris?
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I realize by even acknowledging you, I encourage your attention whoring, but so be it. It's Friday afternoon and this TB will be 6 feet under by midnight, if it isn't already. nobody believes your bullshit stories
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I dont care what its called its their movie they can call it whatever they want were still gonna download it
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predictably perfect
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Beware his devious ways.
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I enjoy that muchly.
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it's growing on me like a fungus and yet i don't want to scrub it off. Unless, that is, Destroyer of Worlds were hiding beneath it.
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I mean come on. After the Massive Space Clusterfuck that was the Star Wars prequels? You're telling me people really care about this movie? The only movie that matters next summer is The Joker. I mean The Dark Knight.
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Utter crap, awful story, terribly directed action scenes. Boring performance by Bale.
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Batman Begins was best superhero movie ever. Btw Indiana Jones 4 will be awesome as well Lucas might dissapoint, but Spielberg is always good.
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I did not know a Donkey Kong movie was in the works!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!
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the negative vibe on everything regarding this movie? the title rocks and shia isn't that bad. people here are just inclined to hate because they cannot handle change. if you don't like the movie, you still have the original trilogy you grew up with.
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Yeah, of course. After all the buzz King of Kong got, they're ready to do a full on DK movie.
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A giant ape takes on NY and only Mario can stop the madness!
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i would pay to see that movie any day. everything has to be gritty and realistic, except for mario and DK. that'd just make me laugh.
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THAT'S using your skull!
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I remember the same comic, though I read it in swedish - I even remember there was an article at the end of the magazine about the "real" mayan skull, ie. the one in the YouTube-link.
From what I recall though, that was actually one of the best Indy-comics ever - I read them all, and that's the only one I remember. -
...Smartarse. No, I don't remember that episode. Which one was it?
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Has that just been removed from AICN site? Was just reading it, went to post a talkback, and kablam... it's missing - so did AICN receive a c&d? Upshot was, Russians find crystal skull, kidnap Ravenwood - Dr Jones falls in love with her when he finds out that Shia is his son... and he's interrogated by the pesky Ruskies.
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AICN, SPEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.cinecon.com/
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it's gone. it's gone. what do i mean? it's.. it's gone... and theres nuthin we could do about it. *bang phone repeatedly*
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There were some Paramount trucks on the WB lot this afternoon and security has been beefed up around Stage 16 where they will be shooting for a few days scenes within the Aztec temple set. It was rumored today that some key players from the film were seen on the lot and also some extras in clothing from the 30's or so, suggesting that other than Stage 16 there might have been some taping elsewhere on the studio lot, but none of the coworkers in my office knew where. We've had a lot of tapings this week from ER, Sarah Connor Chronicles, Cold Case & 2 1/2 Men...busy week at the WB!
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I wish I could enthrall with stories from my job but, "the Fed cut rates 50bps" just doesn't do as much for me as film and TV taping....
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that they want all the leaks clogged asap?
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AICN will answer why they took the other article down
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I think a quick explanation was given in the Mist TB by Mori...I think.
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"spoilers". But if that is true, then doesn't that just fly in the face of what so much of this site is about?
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I'm sure you guys have your reasons.
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i figured somebody would be along eventualy if I banged around in here enough.
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But, why not just remove all the content from the original post and let people know that way? Or put up another in it's place saying "Sorry, we had to remove it for legal reasons"? Eh, whatever...
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Sep 19, 2007 10:51:48 AM CDT
because sometimes they like to just have stuff go poof!
by just pillow talk
and it's gone...like Keyser Soze.
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They need to bring back Shortround who could probably kick a lot of ass by now.
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TIFF!
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TIFF!
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TIFF!
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TIFF!
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TIFF!
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Indy SMASH!!
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Indy betrays Shiva...and Sallah. Heavens no!
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Heeeeeeeere's INDY!
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Anybody else see it? Anyone? Not that there's anything wrong with it....
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Some folks read the spoiler of the dancing Ruskies and just assume the movie will be a goofy mess. ROTLA is one of the best films ever made and it had not one dance, but two (can you name them?)
It would really suck to be a film maker today with all the cynics bitching before even seeing the movie. Granted I was pissed about Shia at first too - I'd only seen him in Project Greenlight and thought he was a little punk, but the kid can act and he seems to really love these movies.
The only thing that has me worried so far is the fact that these skulls are proven frauds - it will take away from the movie with that in the back of my mind, so I hope they acknowledge that. Surely after all the rewrites, this will be handled fine enough. After all, the main character is a pretty big skeptic himself.
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everyone left their "indiana jones & _____" droppings and left by now.
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Castle of Greyskull, what?
Bad title.
I don't know what's wrong with ditching the whole "Indiana Jones and the" prefix and give us something original as with "Raiders". It's not Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, is it? No, it isn't. I don't care what your DVD packaging tries to convince you of. Anyway, just as long as they get back on track with the Bogart schtick from the first film and ditch the by-the-numbers comedy/action malarky of The Last Crusade then I'll be happy. What they did to Marcus Brody in that film was a travesty of literal character assassination. Erm. That's it. Except to say Indy would kick the bejesus out of He-Man any day. Not sure how. He'd just make it up as he goes.
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