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Bond Action Gets Actionier!!

Published at:  Sep 04, 2007 9:40:01 AM CDT


Merrick here...



If you're like most folks I know...and are a fan of the grueling, savage beat downs Jason Bourne mets out to pursuing operatives...and think James Bond could learn a thing or four from Bourne...then you're probably gonna dig this news.

Dan Bradley has been hired as the second unit director/action designer for BOND 22 (which is, obviously, a working title). Seems Bradley is responsible for the Bourn-ness that made Bourne Bourne, and now he's bringing his wicked magic to 007 (he's apparently just finished, or about to finish, his work on INDY 4!).

Bond. Bourne. Indy. He's worked on Spidey and SUPERMAN also. How frigging cool is this guy?

Read more about Bradley, and his work, HERE!










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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:40:51 AM CDT

    Bond, Bourne... Battlestar Galactica

    by archernx01

    Wait a minute... you're trying to be me!!!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:43:04 AM CDT

    ArcherNX01...

    by mistahtibbs

    HAHAHAHA!

    Damn people are looking at me.

    Thanks a lot.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:45:17 AM CDT

    Of course that SHOULD have read...

    by mistahtibbs

    "Damn, people are looking at me."

    That'll teach me to surf AICN while at work.

    Geez, I'm still giggling over that one, Arch. damn you. :)

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:46:12 AM CDT

    There was action in Superman Returns?

    by snookeroo

    Did I miss something?

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:46:31 AM CDT

    ...so we can have more close ups

    by methosb

    ...of randomly limbs flying about and shake the camera around so it looks like something is actually going on? How about they just spend a month teaching the actors to fight and choreograph actual fights scene instead?

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:48:05 AM CDT

    I'm sure he'll do a good job....

    by xanther

    Just as long as he remembers Bond is not Bourne.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:48:07 AM CDT

    HELLO NAUSEA

    by abin sur

    I wonder how sex will look with shakycam...

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:48:57 AM CDT

    Superman Lifts

    by betaraybill07

    Hey, there was plenty of lifting- is that action??

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:50:44 AM CDT

    In his defense....

    by xanther

    A 2nd unit director's job is to capture the director's vision and to mimic his style so that the experience to the film's audience is seamless.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 9:52:07 AM CDT

    Casino Royale was the last Bond I will ever watch

    by stollentroll

    Seriously. They always trick you into believing the next Bond will be TOTALLY different...I won't fall for it again.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:02:24 AM CDT

    You don't have to really hit him if we shake the camera

    by gride9000

    How bout a 2nd unit that shows the action instead of what Micheal Gondry calls "Artificial Excitement from editing and camera motion". I'm all for the first person (we are in the room with Bourne) but our eyes compensate for movement quicker than the camera. When the camera moves too quicky it "motion blurs". The problem is at 24 frames a second, and assuming the shutter speed is not craned down like in Gladiator, wee see a lager amount of motion blur than one would with the naked eye. Artificial Excitement. Watch any john woo film from china if you want to see the camera used correctly.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:05:04 AM CDT

    Weren't the fight/action scenes

    by skimn

    partly influenced by Bourne in Casino anyway?

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:06:05 AM CDT

    "Colonel Sun"

    by kazamasmokers

    The next, next Bond movie, Bond 23, (or 25 if you count NSNA and Barry Nelson) should be based on the Colonel Sun" novel. That's the only Bond book that really conveys the character's brutality.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:07:36 AM CDT

    People out there didn't like Casino Royale?

    by modlight

    Is that what I'm reading here? Wow. Maybe Bond just isn't your thing.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:10:11 AM CDT

    If you didn't like Casino Royale, shame on you

    by yack backer

    That movie had it all.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:11:57 AM CDT

    that's because ricarleite...

    by just pillow talk

    it was better than everything else. :-)

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:14:03 AM CDT

    Bond Bashing?

    by earthlingdave

    I'm a casual but committed Bond fan and I don't get all this bashing of Casino Royale, which I feel was hands down one of the best Bond films in years. Would you prefer a return to Brosnan-era weak plots and horrendous dialogue (no fault of Brosnan of course)? The "new direction" they're taking isn't anything too drastic, they're just focusing on better stories, dialogue, and action. And how can you not love Bond's chemistry with Vesper Lynd?

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:17:23 AM CDT

    THE SHAKEY CAM HAS CHOSEN HD-DVD, AND HERE'S WHY:

    by pound sand

    Hey, I loved Ultimatum as much as the next nerd, but combining these shakey-verite techniques with Mondo def digital techniques is gonna make somebody puke on their own lap. Action sequences, as shown in Bourne, can be intelligent to work. It doesn't have to be just explosions, crashes, yelling, fireballs and Optimus Prime.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:17:32 AM CDT

    So now I won't be able to SEE the action?

    by neo zeed

    I couldn't tell what the fuck was going on during Bourne's fights. It's because they couldn't get Martin Campbell back, that they now have to resort nu-action horseshit(like random limbs and shakycam.) Get Campbell back!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:18:14 AM CDT

    Well I can't really say yay

    by omar b

    Well I can't really say yay or nay to this new guy being added. Casino Royal was easily my favorite Bond movie ever because ::gasp:: they adapted the book and took it seriously rather than many of the others that come across as parodies or mere pastiche ... even Fleming would agree to this.

    Oh, and Colonel Sun will never be made into a movie since they already used elements of that books's story in "Die Another Day" (The bad guy Colonel Moon) as well as elements from the book Icebreaker (the ice palace). Many of the post Fleming books have been rendered unfilmable because they pick and choose elements from unrelated books and just smash em together in one story.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:18:50 AM CDT

    I think you meant "metes out"

    by chrth

  • Sep 04, 2007 10:20:58 AM CDT

    Casino Royale was the best Bond in a very long time.

    by barry egan

    I think it had something to do with Sony absorbing MGM. Sony has probably wrestled a lot of the control of the franchise away from the dipshit Broccoli family. Conventional wisdom might say that studio meddling is a bad thing but in this case I think the studio is much smarter than the Broccolis, who have really tried to kill their golden egg laying goose over the years. After Bond being so skewered by Austin Powers, Die Another Day seemed really stupid. The laser in space melting the polar ice caps was something Dr Evil would plan out.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:24:07 AM CDT

    sex in shaky cam..

    by dtpena

    looks good, actually

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:25:20 AM CDT

    Didn't they cannabilise parts of Colnel Sun...

    by steve rogers

    for the wretched Die Another Day? I have not read the book so don't know for sure, but think I read awhile ago that they used bits of it, or at least had some nods to it in the film. Which was FUCKING SHIT (not the book's fault).

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:28:44 AM CDT

    But, the guy on the last one directed...

    by immorganfreeman

    Resident Evil Apocalypse! That's what "brought the magic" to Casino Royale, really.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:31:58 AM CDT

    Action in Superman Returns? Where was it?

    by matthooper8

    I think I blinked and missed it.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:40:40 AM CDT

    Crapsino Royale plot was ridiculous.

    by kabong

    White lets Bond live and Bond doesn't wonder why. Worse, MI6 doesn't wonder why, and lets Bond and Vesper swan around with control of the money.

    And no, it wasn't faithful to the book. In the novel, the money is retrieved by Mathis from where Bond hid it and sent to MI6. The Vesper romance and discovery of her double agenting is like a coda to the mission.

    A real Bond movie doesn't have Bond sitting on his ass in a shower like some teenage girly boy.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:43:38 AM CDT

    don't forget Monkeybone!

    by super rabbi

    or do forget.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:44:47 AM CDT

    Casino Royale rocked (and possibly rolled)

    by matdgz

    I thought Bond 21 was amazing. And I think if the filmmakers maintain the balls-out hardass Bond, then this guy is gonna make it rock all the more. PS - I watched Goldeneye again the other night. Fuck me that was a good Bond movie. Martin Campbell just kicks all kinds of ass.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:46:29 AM CDT

    Ya know who'd be a great 2nd unit director? Michael Bay

    by big bad clone

    He'd never hve to worry about emotional moments. Or keeping the story straight. Sure TF was shaky on the actual action, but that's because he had to worry about getting a box for Shia for when he stood next to Megan Fox and the writer going on and on about something called a 'plot'.The man basically comes when he talks about all the techinical shit.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:47:15 AM CDT

    2ND UNIT

    by the knight

    Is it me, or is this the first time they're announcing the hiring of a 2nd Unit director like he's a major star or something? Lets hope the tone of the action is consistent with the first one and doesn't go over the top like most sequels do.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:54:01 AM CDT

    SHAKEY-CAM AHOY!

    by osmosis jones

    I want my 007 action stirring, NOT shaken.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:59:29 AM CDT

    I want Letterman to host the Oscers ann intoduce

    by yeti

    Craig and Damon to one another. "Bond, Bourne, Bourne, Bond"

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:01:08 AM CDT

    Bond, Bourne...Mr. Bean

    by kafka07

    I'm not that impressed. A sequel to District B13 would impress me though. And leave Paul Greengrass and his frikkin shaky cam at home.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:03:52 AM CDT

    Wake me when they bring in the next Bond actor . . .

    by nice marmot

    . . . since the first flicks w/ the new lead are the only ones made right, where everyone involved gives their all.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:07:51 AM CDT

    yes ricarleite

    by kilik777

    if his name was James Bond in the movie then it was part of the franchise. But go on believing what you want to. Also the earth is not round im told.
    http://tinyrul.com/pv8do

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:09:20 AM CDT

    I watched Point Blank last night

    by mr.underwater

    And, THAT is a fucking beat down (back of the club in case your memory is foggy) It didn't even seem choreographed, capped with probably the best dick-punch in cinematic history.Fuck kung-fu, give me more of that.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:10:08 AM CDT

    Osmosis Jones wins...

    by raw_bean

    ...the award for best pun I've ever seen in AICN talkbacks, hands down. :^DPS Casino Royale was great, that is all.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:18:25 AM CDT

    oh boy, more steroid rambo action

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    if Casino Royale had been faithful to the book, we wouldn't have had the crane scene, rambo craig busting through walls, or the entire over the top building collapse at the end of the film. plus Bond would have been at least 6ft tall, with Dark hair.
    and he wouldn't have been crying in the shower!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:23:41 AM CDT

    Another classic shit headline

    by bootle2

    courtesy of Merrick, the worst AICN contrib. GET FIRED AND DIE!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:41:48 AM CDT

    Dr Gonzo

    by d_t

    You'll probably need to provide links and diagrams to explain things...

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:50:29 AM CDT

    Ya had me until...

    by freefinger

    you mentionned Superman... If Bond starts peeping old girlfriends I'll walk right out...And where the hell was the action in Superman??? Well, it was when a plane crashed. Then.. well... well... I guess when the movie ended, 'cause of all the people leaving, now that made a ruckus!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:57:17 AM CDT

    Action in Superman

    by big bad clone

    He picked up a spaceship. He picked up an airplane. He picked up a car. He picked up a rock. Basically, if you like your Superman picking up shit, then that was the movie for you.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:57:34 AM CDT

    Shakey Cam in Indy IV???

    by finky089

    Only if Old Man Harrison's handling the camera. Zing!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:03:33 PM CDT

    Good News.

    by jakes nel

    The Bourne films have laid down the blueprint for all action films from here on. If it wasn't for the Bourne franchise we would still get films like Die Another Day and Batman&Robin, instead of Casino Royale and Batman Begins.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:03:52 PM CDT

    If Superman punched a regular man...

    by osmosis jones

    ...he'd fucking KILL him, and Supes don't play that. Lifitng a fucking CONTINENT is super enough for me.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:13:00 PM CDT

    ricarleite

    by jfp2007

    No shit, Sherlock. Casino Royale isn't part of the previous franchise. It was intended as a relaunch using a different leading actor and featuring the very first Bond adventure ever written. I would expect a combination of new stories and maybe some remakes as they see fit. We already know the next one is an original and begins literally 2 minutes after Casino Royale and continues it's plot, so give ricarleite a cigar for getting it right.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:28:02 PM CDT

    finky089:

    by gride9000

    that is actually a double zing with a cherry on to. Can we start calling it. "Parkinson'sCam". Or mabye the "Un-SteadyCam"

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:32:03 PM CDT

    Jakes Nel you retard cum stain

    by gride9000

    Stop talking to this chat board like you're teaching nerd 101. Thanks for point out that Batman and Robin sucked, cause that topic has never been discussed here and we feel better for your deep insight.... In reality, we are talking about other movies that may or may not suck on their own for other reasons than you are discussing.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:42:01 PM CDT

    Steve Rogers

    by omar b

    I mentioned it in my post but you musta missed it. Yes, Colonel Sun as well as Icebreaker were both cannibalized for Die Another Day.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:51:47 PM CDT

    Shakycam directors should get the "Le Chiffre"treatment

    by spyguy

    And I'll be the first one swinging the rope.

    Oh, and to the complete douchebags who are busting on CASINO ROYALE, you idiots do realize CR is the best Bond film since ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE, right? Don't make me get the rope for you jokers as well...

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:55:41 PM CDT

    great subject line Pound Sand

    by santiagoatez

  • Sep 04, 2007 12:58:08 PM CDT

    That'd be METES OUT

    by elvis cole lives

    Not "mets out." Otherwise, good news though.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:58:40 PM CDT

    Bond and Bourne should go different routes....

    by santiagoatez

    Casino Royale was great, and not so similar to the shakey-cam of Bourne. I just hope the next Bond director doesn't try to copy Greengrass in this method.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 12:59:44 PM CDT

    wait...is Marc Foster confirmed for Bond22 (IMDB.com)

    by santiagoatez

    Did I really miss this news? I knew Martin Cambell wasn't coming back, and that disappointed the hell out of me....but I didn't know they already found a new one.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:00:17 PM CDT

    Casino Royale had a great first 1 and 45mins

    by emeraldboy

    then it all fell apart. One thing youn dont do is piss off animal rights people. They have just wrapped shooting the movies finale and are moving to spain. The scene in Italy involves the worlds most dangerous race where horses run at full speed through a small town. bond is on foot. Aminal Rights people were enraged.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:00:39 PM CDT

    Actually Casino Royale IS part of the same franchise:

    by forestal

    Just because a movie is a "reboot" doesn't mean its part of a different series. Just like The Living Daylights and GoldenEye (although LTK retained M and GE retained Q) were essentially restarts. All the EON produced Bond films including CR are part of the same franchise.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:01:54 PM CDT

    Oops, bete me to it, chrth

    by elvis cole lives

    Or is it "beat." My bad.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:05:03 PM CDT

    God forbid that Bond piss off the animal rights people

    by elvis cole lives

    'Cause we all know how very, very, very, very important to both the Bond franchise and the continued existence of film that the 'fur is murder' crowd are. I mean, this is a fuckin' catastrophe that these guys are displeased. What shall Bond do? Oh, whatsoever shall WE do?

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:18:50 PM CDT

    Oh, oh, I know

    by elvis cole lives

    As penance, Bond can rescue a few baby seals during a climactic Arctic showdown, putting his own life on the line to save some of these cute creatures while turning to the camera and saying "Meat is murder. One world. Peace." Maybe that'll satisfy the animal rights guys. 'Cause whatever happens this movie CANNOT be released with them pissed about a horse race. Oh, the equinity!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:19:24 PM CDT

    Casino Royale structure

    by darth fart

    Its structure is wrong. As soon as the love story kicks in, the film becomes something else.

    The love story needed to be part of the story from the beginning to make the last act work. Its thesis was correct, but the anti-thesis and synthesis didn't penetrate and was unsatisfying.

    I also think they stayed too close to the book in terms of structure.

    I still like the film, but it's far from being perfect.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:29:31 PM CDT

    Oh great, now we wont be able to SEE the action.

    by mike_d

    The bourne movies made me nautious to watch.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:43:38 PM CDT

    Isn't this a non-story?

    by dex

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but a Second Unit director is supposed to make scenes fit seemlessly into the director's style of shooting. Whether you hate the shaky cam or not in Bourne - that's Paul Greengrass' style. Getting excited about a second unit director is a bit like getting excited for a new fry chef at McDonalds (ok maybe not, but I was trying to think of a funny metaphor).

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  • Sep 04, 2007 1:50:05 PM CDT

    ummmmmm

    by high fidelity

    I really don't understand the whole resistance to the shaky cam. I loved all three of the Bourne movies and the action sequences weren't over the top, they were fucking brutal. Plus, you can see the action just fine. You just have to pay attention. God forbid you do some thinking in an action sequence. I'm all for it.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 2:12:08 PM CDT

    There isnt any action in Superman Returns

    by alwaysthere

    I skimmed through the thing on HBOHD this past sunday. All I remember was a guy flying and twisting his wrists to turn.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 2:14:57 PM CDT

    better sit in the front row then!!!

    by londoncalling

  • Sep 04, 2007 2:27:12 PM CDT

    Bond Not My Thing If I Didn't Like CR?

    by colier rannd

    Excuse me but CR was NOT a Bond movie. The problem is that Bond is my thing. But a movie called "Bond" that is really a Bourne movie is not. Bond should NOT be Bourne. They are two different characters. Why do people wanna make Bond something he's not? Idiots. Next they'll want him to visit Narnia.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 2:53:57 PM CDT

    They should hire the guy who did the stunts for...

    by frank black

    ...um... Casino Royale because he got it right the last time and the fighting and chases were f*cking amazing! I don't need my Bond films to be more like Bourne, I really just need tough as nails Bond and hot chicks showing as much skin as a PG-13 will allow (because they'll never give us an R Bond like we dream of.)

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:14:20 PM CDT

    this is disappointing

    by strabo

    The fights in Casino Royale, especially the construction site stuff at the beginning of the film, were great. The action was clearly framed and not obfuscated by shaky cam x1000. I hate it when the movement of the camera is more violent than the fight we're watching.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:18:52 PM CDT

    Don't change the action guy, change the star + writers!

    by derlanghaarige

    I mean, the action was the best thing about Casino Royale! But Bond was miscast and the script was ridiculous!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:18:59 PM CDT

    SpyGuy, you're absolutely right!

    by sith witch

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service was definitely the best until Casino Royale came around.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:23:35 PM CDT

    Um... no one mentioned Superman Returns

    by mr chuff

    Its says "Superman"...so calm down.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:25:04 PM CDT

    Brosnan nearly killed Bond

    by mrbong

    i was against that Irish twat with the puffy voice from the start, and he damned nearly killed the series, especially with the pisspoor Die Another Day. Casino Royale was promising, but just too damned repetitive - every twenty minutes they stopped to remind you that this was "Bond at the beginning". how thick do they think we are, that was established at the start! on the basis of CR, though, Mr Craig's next outings should be good.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:25:36 PM CDT

    My bad... it does say "returns" in the article

    by mr chuff

    I await the full wrath of the TB.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:28:21 PM CDT

    I'm NOT a Bond fan

    by mr chuff

    But I really did enjoy CR. It owed a shitload to Bourne (argue that point at your leisure) but I genuinely thought it was a good flick. I've never been a Bond fan really (not since Jaws started fucking about in space rockets anyway) but i hope the best with the new batch of Bonds.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:28:35 PM CDT

    Brosnan did NOT nearly kill Bond!

    by derlanghaarige

    It wasn't his fault that 3.5 of his 4 movies sucked. He was the right Bond at the wrong time.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 3:48:09 PM CDT

    I'm glad this guy's doing the stunts for B22

    by football

    As much as I enjoyed CR I wanted to see longer and more violent hand-to-hand combat situations, just as with train fight in From Russia With Love. CR was the best thing to happen to Bond in years, and I for one wasn't sorry to see Brozzy go. Say what you want about Craig, but he was so much better than the smarmy, is my hair straight(?) Brosnan. And apart from the stunts, the last Bourne film was a bit of letdown. A borrowed plot from the 1st one and a "so what" ending that leaves you with the same hollow feeling as when you finish a Big Mac.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 4:02:17 PM CDT

    Bond 22 has bagged bradley

    by emeraldboy

    Bradley designed bourne. Not he is designing bond22.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 4:04:27 PM CDT

    that should be know

    by emeraldboy

    bradley is designing bond.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 4:11:23 PM CDT

    Superman does not just PUNCH

    by zooch

    I seem to remember Superman being most famous for his RESCUES. Saving people, adverting disaster, that kind of thing. Superman is not a boxer or karate guy.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 4:14:30 PM CDT

    Popeye Doyle didn't need a fucking shaky-cam!

    by doctor_sin

    Whatever happened to *action*?????

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  • Sep 04, 2007 4:15:53 PM CDT

    Bond vs. Bourne

    by zooch

    QUESTION, who would win in a fight, Bond or Bourne?

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  • Sep 04, 2007 4:29:54 PM CDT

    OHMSS sucked?!?! Huh?!?!

    by deathbird

    You seem like a cool cat, shuttlepod, but your OHMSS hate is as baffling as my friend's conjecture that SITH and EMPIRE were the worst SW movies (seriously, he does). Hunt's film should have been used as a blueprint for all subsequent Bond adventures.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 4:58:16 PM CDT

    so this is actual news??

    by windowlicker74

    who is the second unit director? i hope this is a joke.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 5:44:50 PM CDT

    Was it Bradley or Greengrass responsible for the shake?

    by _maltheus_

    That last Bourne movie would have been one of the best action flicks of all time if I could actually see the damn thing. If this Bradley guy was responsible, then I won't be bothering with the next Bond flick. I know, some wannabe director is out there thinking, "well the shaky close-ups reflect how you would feel in such a chaotic fight," and I call bullshit on that. Bond and Bourne are highly trained fighters. There's no way Bourne could counter the attacks he does, if he wasn't fully aware of what's going on in the fight. The only way that shaky bullshit makes any sense is if one of these guys was beating the shit out of me and the director was trying to capture my confusion (which would be abundant). But for trained agents, they should pull back as far as they can get away with and show the technical grace. I was so angry after leaving Bourne Ultimatum, that it was the first time at a movie where I felt like my money should actually be refunded. It was as bad as if the projector had gone out for half the flick.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 6:09:15 PM CDT

    Wow there's a lot of hate

    by omar b

    Wow there's a lot of hate for CR here, I never expected that. The comparisons with Bourne are pretty funny to me too. There's nothing in the spy genre not done first and better in Bond. Amnesiac spy going after his own people? Try reading You Only Live Twice and The Man With The Golden Gun. It's great that Ludlum could take a cliffhanger from a Bond book and turn it into a whole series but at the end of the day though I love Ludlum I'll always prefer Fleming.

    As for CR's adaptation, though not totally accurate it was close, OHMSS is still the best film of the series though, because rather than doing a tongue in cheek pastiche of the book the actually did a serious adaptation.

    As always, I'll forward to anything with Bond's name on it.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 6:48:11 PM CDT

    Bears...Beets...Battlestar Galactica

    by brattain

    Identity theft is a serious crime.
    MICHAEL!

    Oh and Jason Bourne rocks the house.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 7:10:15 PM CDT

    Right on SpyGuy, I'll cut the hole in the chair for ya

    by laserbrain

    GREENGRASS SUCKS!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 7:52:44 PM CDT

    Casino Royale Action

    by sarajevobot

    I thought the action in Casino Royale was GREAT, especially that first chase thru the construction yard. But it was all terrific. Why isn't Campbell directing this one? I agree with the folks who say that the action in the Bourne movies is illegible and nausea-inducing. Yikes!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 8:12:11 PM CDT

    YES!!

    by atari

    Very cool news!

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  • Sep 04, 2007 8:36:46 PM CDT

    Studio interference

    by sparkflyer

    >>Conventional wisdom might say that studio meddling is a bad thing but in this case I think the studio is much smarter than the Broccolis, who have really tried to kill their golden egg laying goose over the years.<< I completely agree. The key to Casino Royale was the casting, from Craig to Green to Dench to Wright. Sony is forcing the producers to hire a real director this time, and a great second-unit director. This bodes very, very well.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 8:37:40 PM CDT

    Studio interference

    by sparkflyer

    >>Conventional wisdom might say that studio meddling is a bad thing but in this case I think the studio is much smarter than the Broccolis, who have really tried to kill their golden egg laying goose over the years. CUT I completely agree. The key to Casino Royale was the casting, from Craig to Green to Dench to Wright. Sony is forcing the producers to hire a real director this time, and a great second-unit director. This bodes very, very well.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:01:59 PM CDT

    Zooch...

    by loodabagel

    Jason Bourne's probably the more experienced, better trained guy, but James Bond is a heartless bastard. Bond shoots women. Bourne doesn't. James Bond electrocuted a dude with metal teeth. Bourne beat up some CIA operative dueche. Plus, Bourne's an uptight twat, Who'd miss him? Where with James Bond, think of all the rich, gullible sluts, bartenders and card sharks who'd be missing their favorite customer.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:03:38 PM CDT

    Also worth noting...

    by loodabagel

    People always say how much Casino Royale owed to The Bourne Identity, but what about the part in Casino Royale where Bond bashes the bad guys face in with the sink? The same attack appears again in the Bourne Ultimatum.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:11:22 PM CDT

    If a shakey-cam was filming during an earthquake,

    by mrmysteryguest

    will anyone notice? :I

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:25:57 PM CDT

    "Even Live and Let Die was better than Die another Day"

    by and nicolas cage as fu manchu

    WTF? Live and Let Die is awesome!!! Voodoo shamans, Bond running on alligators, multiple instances of Roger Moore being called a honkey, and a ridiculously hot Jane Seymour. I will not stand this Live and Let Die hate; it is sacrilege.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:30:46 PM CDT

    Good Improvement

    by kingdon

    It’s strange but I'm a huge Bond fan, but I actually waited to see the movie on DVD and I was slightly disappointed. I love OHMS and the hype around CR made me expect something different and I didn't feel it was that different. Maybe it’s the music, Love Dave Arnolds work on Stargate and Young Americans, but his music for Bond is weak. Bring in someone with balls so it doesn’t sound cheesy.
    Those hating Craig need to be patient. Yes he was rough, and not smooth, but that’s the point. By the last Bond (I mean the 3rd Bond in this trilogy) I think we'll get the bond we all grew up on)
    Marc Forster is an interesting choice, but it mirrors the failures of the Brosnan films. Kick start the franchise with a Director who can handle action and dram and then he gets replaced by a drama director. Maybe that why they have upped the ante on the 2nd Unit.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:38:29 PM CDT

    Bond was pretty brutal in "Royale"

    by ewokstew

    but, yeah... he could amp up the beat-downs a couple o' notches.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 10:57:21 PM CDT

    So people here hate Casino Royale AND Greengrass????

    by barry egan

    Wow, that's some really bad taste in film.

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:24:47 PM CDT

    no offense to bradley but

    by t40stunt

    don't worry the guys that did casino royale will be doing the stunt work on the next Bond . bradley is the second unit director which means he does not arrange the stunt sequences he shoots them . the stunt coordinator will be setting up the action and its all the same guys .sick of hollywood giving the stuntman a bad shake .

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  • Sep 04, 2007 11:26:57 PM CDT

    lesson 1: wacky camera shake to hide poor direction

    by bioforge

    Better have parkinsons if you wanna be a cameraman , cause you know its the "in" thing .

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  • Sep 05, 2007 12:02:12 AM CDT

    Bourne forced Bond to get serious...HOWEVER

    by neo zeed

    It shouldn't adopt the shaky style. Shaky action sucks.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 3:06:10 AM CDT

    And they say Bourne

    by kwisatzhaderach

    hasn't influenced the Bond series. Ha. The Bond series should be striking out its own distinct image, not copying others. Kind of sad to see. At the end of the day there's been 21 Bond films now. They've done everything already. I enjoyed Casino Royale, it was a well made film, but pretty generic. So long as the producers keep hiring bland, pedestrian directors the Bond series will just chug along being entertaining but unremarkable. Sad really when you think of Connery's 60s epics that really caught the zeitgeist, and Moores flamboyant 70s extravaganzas. For me, the ultimate Bond film is The Living Daylights. Love that film, everything is class, especially Dalton, Barry's sublime score and the action. They nailed the tone on that film completely.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 3:20:12 AM CDT

    Remember ALEX WITT

    by frye777

    Bourne 1's second unit director. He was the second unit diretor on Casino Royale as well! So I am not surprised on this decision from EON.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 7:26:59 AM CDT

    Dan Bradley helmed second unit...

    by abominable snowcone

    ...for Spidey 3 here in Cleveland. I can attest first hand to how hard his people worked, and how much they cared about what they were doing. Sadly, not much of it is reflected in what little footage they used from it in the final movie, which has gotta be the cinematic disappointment of the decade so far.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 8:27:05 AM CDT

    sex with shakycam

    by turketron

    Sex with a shakycam is probably a lot like sex when massively drunk... but massively more annoying and not nearly as satisfying. Ok, maybe they're not anything alike, now that I think about it.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 9:00:41 AM CDT

    Aiiiieeeeeeeee!!!!!

    by roguewarrior65

    Okay, IMHO, this is gonna suck moose balls. Shakycam is quite possibly THE WORST TECHNIQUE EVER!!! It's like ever effing cameraman has a case of restless leg syndrome.
    And what the hell is up with the two-second cuts in every car chase?!?!? Ronin still rules as the best car chase ever.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 10:58:16 AM CDT

    Yeh, shakycam is awesome...

    by darrenspool

    for fucking retards! Fuck greengrass, what a tosser.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 12:09:36 PM CDT

    Bourne sucks ass

    by gasfarty

    The Ludlum books suck, ugmo Matt Damon sucks, and the whole series feels like a low budget film student project. Bond is still on shaky ground, but Casino Royale was ten times better than the other Bonds of the past 20 years.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 3:34:52 PM CDT

    Holy shit!

    by loodabagel

    I forgot all about Moneypenny. Damn you, Judy Dench!

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  • Sep 05, 2007 5:16:24 PM CDT

    CR=great, Bourne=Great, Greengrass=greater!

    by ceejaynightwing

    Bourne and Bond are two completely different types of espionage thrillers. The techniques employed in directing a Bounre film suit that movie and not Bond. The 2nd unit director of the next Bond film will be mimicking the director's style and not the style of Paul Greengrass who made the Supereb Bourne sequels. For the guy who simply couldn't understand the CR plot: Bond was convinced that Mathis set them up and shot LeChiffe leaving him alive to somehow get the money an alternate way. Watch the film again and it answers all your stupid questions. MI5 didn't leave Bond and Vesper with all the money, the transfer of funds required both of their codes and was done as soon as they were reunited; the twist was that she transferred the money to SMERSH not MI5. The film is no where near as stupid as some people who watch it and simply can't follow the plot it seems. Just as the so called "shakey-cam" in the Bourne films is not shaking at all but merely in constant motion i.e NOT STILL. But apparently some of us can only decipher action from spoon-fed shots that are perfectly framed so unable to enjoy the artistry that makes the Bourne films so kinetic and thrilling to watch. ..unlucky for them, thank god the rest of us don't have that problem.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 5:20:33 PM CDT

    and furthermore..

    by ceejaynightwing

    Bond showing emotion by entering a shower with a traumatised woman is REALISTIC and in line with the original story where by he actually falls in love with Vesper and is about to give up everything to marry her. Maybe in your world love is about killing people and throwing a catchy one-liner to punctuate the death before screwing the girl you love; but in reality men who fall in love comfort their loved ones, be it in the shower or between bed sheets! Grow Up.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 8:37:24 PM CDT

    Anti-shakeycam people understand the intent of...

    by neo zeed

    shakeycam. It's supposed to add an extra layer of kineticism while giving you a documentary feel. However, it's still a crap technique when it comes to entertaining fight scenes, because you can't see the fists (or feet) connect to his (or her) opponent. That's remedial action 101 right there. The only info you're given are sound effects to know WHEN he got hit....however your mind is struggling with HOW the guy got hit. The Bourne scenes have a great build up, but when it's time to throwdown and let the audience enjoy a fight, Greengrass blows it. Then it's back to Joan Allen in the little room...reminding us how badass Bourne is for 20th time.

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  • Sep 05, 2007 11:33:37 PM CDT

    CeeJay, You're Right AND Wrong

    by colier rannd

    Bond and Bourne are supposed to be different, that's true. I don't understand why people want to make them the same. But you're wrong, CR was a Bourne movie. Sad huh?

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  • Sep 06, 2007 2:08:40 AM CDT

    On Her Majesty's Shagging Service ...

    by boris baddenov

    Not that my comment has anything to do with OHMSS, but I just wanna say I haven't yet seen any of the shaky-cam Bournes, but I did see the new Casino Royale ... and LOVED it!!!

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