Sept. 3, 2007, 6:19 p.m. CST
I will be seeing it.
Sept. 3, 2007, 6:52 p.m. CST
by Fartgod The IRSTard
http://tinyurl.com/yugou9 September 2, 2007 OUR family wants to thank Susan King for "A Timeless '3:10 to Yuma' " [Aug. 26]. "Yuma" is my favorite western that my father, Glenn Ford, made and a classic in the genre. I've always felt that it could stand up to all the western films released in that decade [the '50s], including "High Noon" and "The Searchers." That it's being remade again speaks to the dearth of [original] writing talent in the film business today; that it's shot in color with lots of gunplay -- it saddens us that they couldn't leave that one alone. My father got very little recognition during his lifetime from the Academy -- no nominations or tributes. The thought that now one of his best films will be remembered by the younger generation as a sidebar to what I expect to be an unworthy comparison makes our family very sad. Peter Ford Beverly Hills
Sept. 3, 2007, 7:08 p.m. CST
by The Real MiraJeff
Of course I was just kidding. I was mad at myself for being a lazy-ass and letting you get the first word in, but it's not about who posts first. There's no I in TEAM, brother. I loved your review and actually didn't like my own, which was way too long and overwritten and summarized too much of the plot. An edited version will appear over at CSIndy.com on Thursday. I think we're all in agreement on this one. Yuma kicks ass!
Sept. 3, 2007, 7:24 p.m. CST
by Charlie Murphy
so why do people give him flak all the time? in another talkback last week, people were biting the poor guy's head off. granted, i've never seen anything he's done, so maybe he deserves said flak, but 3:10 to Yuma looks great and i can't wait to check that shit out.
Sept. 3, 2007, 7:47 p.m. CST
James Mangold came across extremely well in that interview, I can't wait to see the film. I'll sure it'll be released here in South Africa sometime in the next ten years...
Sept. 3, 2007, 9:14 p.m. CST
I just got a book of Elmore Leonard's shot westerns and this is one of them. I'm going to read the story after I see the movie, because I want to be surprised when Christian Bale's character kills Russel Crowe.
Sept. 3, 2007, 9:31 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
why can't he translate some of that to his work because that was a great interview and his films are fucking boring.
Sept. 3, 2007, 9:35 p.m. CST
and I'm glad Chuck made it outside!
Sept. 3, 2007, 9:40 p.m. CST
Chuck rules. That's my favorite part of the interview.
Sept. 3, 2007, 11:51 p.m. CST
by half vader
for the myopic storyboarding comments. Yes I understand the hamfisted reference to comic-book movies (read a few decent ones and you'll see they're NOT the same and don't function the way a board does for a film) and sure he has a point there with years' worth of 'iconic poses' being restrictive but the stuff about just following what's pinned to the wall makes me crazy. And yes, I admit I'm biased here, but it seems like he's just repeating a tired and innacurate story. I don't think Mangold is the even the type of director that would let himself fall prey to what he talks about if he DID use them. <p> It's like saying that Hitchcock movies or every animated movie ever has no life. Or it's like saying that Hitchcock and Steven Sommers/Paul Anderson (the shitty one) movies are the same/lousy because they were storyboarded within an inch of their lives. What sort of backwards thinking is it to blame boards as the common denominator rather than the director who lets themselves be strangled by that? Maybe Mangold isn't a huge Spielberg fan based on his comments about that ostentatious style of filmmaking, but there's a textbok example of someone who gets stuff boarded and can throw it away on the day for on-set inspiration knowing he'll have the important stuff shot and the rest is gravy. Why blame the boards and not the director? Unless I've misunderstood owing to my bias it seems like the tail wagging the dog. There are many advantages to boarding but the disadvantages surely lay with someone who can't utilise them properly. <p> Having said all that I'm not against James Mangold at all and I really enjoyed his movies with maybe the exception of Girl, Interrupted. Not that I hated that either by any means. I guess I just get my back up having talked to more than one director with scared eyes wide about how they heard boards can "kill" a movie. And there's the whole conspiracy thing of board artists being diminished or not receiving credit because somehow it downplays the auteur mistique that a director might not be seen as the genius who comes up with every shot. All very silly and it's not like they don't have enough on their plates anyway!
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:03 a.m. CST
by THE KNIGHT
Haven't seen any of his movies before, but the man really seems to know his stuff. Will definitely check out Yuma.
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:05 a.m. CST
by THE KNIGHT
He directed Identity... I remember liking that movie... He also seems to be pretty open as far as talking about studios. He ain't scared!
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:22 a.m. CST
by T 1000 xp professional
I saw it not so long ago and was blown away....Definitely a modern tale with a western structure. It's a man's movie, for both men and women of course :) ..... Definitely gonna see this one
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:32 a.m. CST
I will be smiling ear to ear during the credits. I hope Stallone gets to team up with Mangold again.
Sept. 4, 2007, 1:01 a.m. CST
I wanted to address Half Vader's comments because they are thoughtful and I wanted to make sure that (before a debate ensues) I had been articulate in expressing my feelings about storyboards. 1) I have nothing against storyboards and I have used them making all my films, particularly for scenes that require logistical, fx, stunt or technical planning. 2) I (personally) don't feel married to my storyboards when shooting if / when something more interesting or poignant reveals itself on set. There are many / most scenes I don't storyboard at all but I don't think this makes me a genius, I just think it means I am collaborative with my DP and actors etc and am following my own heart. I am not trying to tell anyone how to make their films. 3) When making a CG heavy film (YUMA is very analog), I think storyboards are more than a plan, they are the film itself as the live action is but one element to be married with other elements later and the storyboards are the bible holding this expensive process together. That is one way to make a film but not my way thus far. I love animated films (and worked on a mediochre one for Disney years ago with some of the famed Disney storymen) and I understand that process is a brilliant one, but one built for animation, a process that does not involve changing light or live actors who might do things that are brilliant and your boards might not have planned for -- please note that even Phil Harris's and Louis Primas's vocal stylings CHANGED the way those sequences were fastidiously planned in JUNGLE BOOK 4) I enjoy many films that were extensively storyboarded, as I said in the interview, its just not my style so far. 5) I deeply admire Spielberg and he is less of a obsessive storyboarder user than you think. I am told he is amazing on his feet with nothing but a finder. But it wouldn't matter to me if he was a devotee of storboards, I love his work. 6) Hitchcock shot coverage despite all his publicity efforts to make it seem otherwise. 7) My original point was about the western in particular and how as a director you can get so tickled to be working in such an iconic genre that you can easily lose the humanity of your story if you aren't vigilant. Finally, there is a scene late in YUMA in which Russell reveals something of his childhood to Christian's character. Russell choose in rehearsal to try delivering this monologue looking downward, eyes averted, very counter intuitive choice for an actor's "big moment" yet I realized what he was doing was brilliant and bold. I improvised the shot structure in reaction to this decision so that the moment he looks up and finally reveals his eyes would be powerful. This may seem mundane but it is an example of what I am saying. If I had already had this scene fully "imagined" and sketched out on boards I might have doubted his choice as it was "contradicting" my vision. Of course, the boards themselves are never the problem, they are just paper, it is the attitude of the film maker regarding them as Vader smartly points out that can in some situations be destructive. I agree. I presume Vader is a graphic artist so I guess hit a hot button for him/her..
Sept. 4, 2007, 1:24 a.m. CST
But I have to disagree with some of your statements regarding the lack of Hollywood money being pumped into the western genre. It comes down to the same reasons remakes, especially of horror movies, are in vogue. Money and quality (or lack there of). Zombie's Halloween, could have been worse, could have been better, but it's a guaranteed opening weekend. And westerns, or at least most of the ones that have been made recently, aren't lending themselves to that. Three Burials (which I consider a western) is a good movie, but not an opener. Crap like Outlaws with young hip Hollywood "talent" were built to be but didn't preform. I hope your film makes a ton of cash, but quality aside, I won't be surprised if it won't. What the genre needs is the same kind of thing that brought it back in the mid to late sixties - a visionary new style, a la spaghetti, and it's torch bearer Leone. I'd love to see some low budget productions head in that kind of direction, but move the style forward. I thought RR might be the guy to do it after I saw El Marichi and Desperado, but as of yet, there isn't too much to write home about. I can even respect films like Nick Cave's The Propisition attempting a more lyrical approach, but that does not make a good, or even more importantly (in the realm of kickstarting the genre again) successful film. Basically, I'm just saying we need better westerns, one after the other, because a genre on life support can't blow it's chances, especailly if it wants a revival similar to what Lord Of The Rings did for fantasy.
Sept. 4, 2007, 1:35 a.m. CST
I don't consider what you are doing to be the same kind of morally bankrupt attempt we've been seeing so much of lately. Sounds like a labor of love... and not to sound like a kiss ass, but that's the most you can ask from any filmmaker, misguided or otherwise... regardless of talent, which I don't think you have a plethora of.
Sept. 4, 2007, 2:45 a.m. CST
by Bob of the Shire
The second sound-o-text clip cuts off midsentence, not sure what that's about but whatever. This is good stuff, keep it up Quint.
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:12 p.m. CST
Without Harry this is just another boring moviereview site.
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:58 p.m. CST
by half vader
(if it's cool to call you that), I do appreciate it. You're right that I'm a board/concept artist and therefore maybe I overreacted a bit as I alluded. I did try to divorce my subjective role as a board artist though from my comments about the objective use of boards in the collaborative process of filmmaking. As I guessed you seem to have a very inclusive opinion of all the pieces of the puzzle rather than an ego-driven exclusive one and I particularly enjoyed the comments about the sound mix as it pertains to levels and giving each thing its due. <p> I must admit that I didn't get that the board comments were in pointed reference to you making this particular film/western and the specific issue of context/appropriate use. You can understand I'm sure my issue of many parts of pre being downplayed in the media and therefore the fans' slanted view of them. Similar to the misunderstanding about directors' motives and how for example emotional logic can be as or more important to storytelling and tone than straight out literal logic. On these boards I see many fans taking an incredibly literal view of things whether appropriate or not and often don't realise the emotional logic consideration can extend to physical things like design for example. Another reason I tend to play Devil's Advocate and bring up "the other side" of things! <p> The boarding thing does bring up one more point however. I actually use stunt/action sequences as an analogy for how boards (especially in respect to effects sequences) can (note the CAN) disrupt the director's style when it comes to cinematic storytelling, as action sequences can likewise be driven by altered considerations, like safety and chiefly not showing a stuntman's face and therefore change lenses to give the impression of danger or camera position or framing so as not to give the double's game away. I'm intentionally leaving digital face replacement out here for simplicity's sake. <p> Getting back to Spielberg for convenience' sake, everyone loves the scene in Raiders with the truck (oh to concede the point yes you're right he doesn't board as much anymore and as I said he does throw it away but conversely he is getting more into pre-vis), but surely you'd agree that the considerations of digging the ditch meant a forced profile shot so as not to show the ditch and actual slow speed of the truck, and other typical rear and long shots to not reveal the double's identity. Of course the pace and editing was masterful, which helps! I'm just saying that even in 'analogue' days the director's general flow of shot progression could be altered in the same way as a 'typically boarded sequence'. Can we agree, or agree to disagree here? Hopefully I'm not coming off as too full of myself. I don't mean to. <p> Great story about Rusty's "looking down" buildup/setup. <p> Yep there was a lot of press manip with Hitchcock being a showman was pretty good at it himself but one of the reasons for the comment was about a film whose name I can't remember for the life of me where the studio was panicked because he wouldn't and didn't shoot coverage. I need to go look that one one up I guess! <p> Anyway thanks again for your response, - Matt.
Sept. 4, 2007, 2:59 p.m. CST
A very interesting interview, but I'm worried about Mr. Mangold's thoughts on the western genre being in danger of dying out. Not only do I love Westerns, I write them (e.g., Shalom On The Range by Michael S. Katz--it's OK to chuckle at the title, it's supposed to be a comedy adventure, guys). My take has always been that Westerns aren't more popular because they're typically shot in drab colors, and today's population needs bright colors and gimmicks to draw them in. For that reason (in my opinion), Shanghai Noon did so well: colorful Chinese clothes and settings, kung fu action and stunts all set it apart. On the other hand, Deadwood (which I loved and miss) was nothing but shades of brown and tan and people who watch dramas get bored after a while. I don't see the Old West with Mr. Mangold's cynical view (he sees it as an American fever dream of violence, etc.). Sure, that was part of the West, and I even touch upon such issues in my own writing. But Western movies can--and should-- bring us back to a time when good and evil were easy to discern. I compare it to the resurgence of superhero movies--just try stopping them from coming out now. I think it's because you can easily tell the good guys from the bad guys. And in this day of having to worry about whether your neighbor is a mad bomber or sniper, it's comforting to be presented with material that doesn't present such confusion. Westerns can be that material, too, if presented in the right way. I also agree that some new method of presenting them needs to be found, but it would take a pioneer with vision and power, like Stephen Spielberg producing a Western movie to be directed by John Woo (is Woo still around?).
Sept. 4, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST
we speak your name. And thank the gods for what you have done with 3:10 to Yuma.
Sept. 4, 2007, 3:44 p.m. CST
You made a movie that lived up to the legacy of the great Johnny Cash, so thank you.
Sept. 4, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST
You got James Mangold with a blackbox, a great interview, and everyone's talking about Joust the Motion Picture. You guys are funny.
Sept. 4, 2007, 3:47 p.m. CST
What do you think about Senator Larry Craig and his attempt at airport bathroom sex? He's not gay, BTW, just a freak.
Sept. 4, 2007, 3:48 p.m. CST
Do you know Al Gore personally, and if you do will you tell him to run for fucking President? <p>Thank you.
Sept. 4, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST
Do you know Don Murphy, and if you do, how much of an asshole is he in real life?
Sept. 4, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST
Did you have all telephones removed from the set when Russell Crowe arrived? <p>BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!1 J/K
Sept. 4, 2007, 4:04 p.m. CST
Who do you think will win Top Chef? I have a feeling it will come down to Hung. The rest of the field is pretty weak. But I am in love with Casey, she's extremely hot.
Sept. 4, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST
You're gonna scare him off.<p>Great interview. Can't wait to see the film when it opens in the UK.
Sept. 4, 2007, 4:27 p.m. CST
I agree with Telf. How rare is it to have a professional respond within a talkback, be they director, actor, producer, etc.? Granted, the Russell Crowe joke was funny, but why hassle the man at all?
Sept. 4, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST
Not that rare - Bruce Willis came to the TBs in his wifebeater. I do respect Mangold, but I think it would be funny to find out that he watches Top Chef. Dontcha think?
Sept. 4, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST
by felt pelt
Hi, I want to thank you for your films (especially Heavy and CL) and for appearing here, as I assume it is you, as black boxes seem hard to come by. I want to ask about Walk the Line. I was an extra there, in Memphis, and also a spy for this site. I always wanted to know if spy reports were something the production cared about, minded, or even noticed. I sent in a scoop after the casting call and always felt I missed the chance to break news about the leads singing their songs, which the woman said but I idiotically forgot to write down. Later, after that was published, someone came up to me on the set, and out of nowhere started talking to me about the opening scene of the script. When I sent my next report to Aintitcool, they didn't print it. I always wondered if I stuck out like a sore thumb and you guys supplied me false information. But I mean that with respect, and I apologize if scoops on this site are something you care about (I have a feeling that this is more like hearing the opinions of an usher whose theater once ran your movie). Also, as punishment, I did a lot of sitting around in period costume in extreme heat in a gymnasium and auditorium, with water coming not so often, and there was this weird adversarial relationship that developed between the extras and the AD or whoever he was, who one day had a black eye? Supposedly all the PAs were eventually let go? Whatever it was, women lifting their 1950's dresses up to so ventilation tubes piping cold air can hit their legs in a 90 degree auditorium is what I think of when I think of Walk the Line. One of the highlights on that film was getting to see you set up a shot. Please keep making movies that matter to you.
Sept. 4, 2007, 10:54 p.m. CST
I had to immediately post without reading the rest. That crap about the Hidden Fortress and Star Wars and not watching the Magnificent Seven. Whatever, man. There are remakes and then there are remakes. I totally don't like him now. :p It's a damn good thing Christian Bale is in this. </p> And everyone's heard of 3:10 to Yuma. WTF? That reminds me of the time that Meryl Streep and Denzel Washington said that no one had seen The Manchurian Candidate (because they hadn't). And then the guy interviewing them was like "It's my favorite movie." Does everyone in Hollywood think that the average person only knows what they do?
Sept. 5, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST
We wouldn't want a bunch of impressionable kids like Bobby Brady see this film worship him as a hero so much his parents actually find some elderly man whose entire family were killed by Jesse when he was a boy to tell him what a real monster he was!
Sept. 5, 2007, 10:50 p.m. CST
Halloween came out it made money, now it's time for you to move on, come on , is it really gonna be the peak of your career?
Sept. 5, 2007, 11:07 p.m. CST
You can hear an interview with Logan Lerman, co-star of "3:10 to Yuma" by visiting: http://blogtalkradio.com/hostpage.aspx?show_id=48569