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Quint takes a look at two Season One Box Sets: 30 ROCK and HEROES!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a pair of Season One box sets to review! Holy Crap, let’s get started!
I have always been a Johnny-Come-Lately with TV shows. I was a real TV snob for a long while, but you can’t deny that there are some incredible shows on television right now that push the boundaries more constantly and more intelligently than a lot of film. It also doesn’t help that technology and money have advanced enough to make these shows look cinematic.
I’m getting better about catching up to TV. With 24 I bought the first four seasons and watched them over the course of about 2 months. Then I kept regular for Season 5, my DVR saving me when I wasn’t there to catch it live.
With LOST I was only 6 episodes behind when I caught re-runs of earlier episodes and stayed regular ever since, even through the “treading water” rough patch we’ll call Season 2.
HEROES took me about 9 episodes before I gave in and caught up thanks to the internets. Did you know you could watch all the episodes for free on the NBC website? I still have yet to download video from iTunes. I’m sure I’ll give in one of these days.
But I’m growing long-winded already. Let’s nip this in the bud. 30 ROCK. I have many friends who are into the show and I’ve always meant to catch it, but the season ended before I could play catch-up like I did with LOST and HEROES.
Thankfully I got a review copy of the first season in the mail.
I love you, Tina Fey.
I had to say it. Sure, you can have a crush on her from SNL, but any geek guy that doesn’t fall in love with Tina Fey after completing Season One of 30 Rock is more Sulu than Kirk if you catch my drift.
To be perfectly honest, it took me about 4 or 5 episodes to really get into 30 ROCK. I liked it, but it was safer than I expected, more typically prime time comedy. Maybe shows like SOUTH PARK have spoiled me a bit with stuff like Chef’s notorious final episode or having a junkie towel for a character, but it took me a couple episodes of getting to know Liz Lemon (Fey) and her colleagues at an SNL-ish sketch show before I was hooked.
One of the things I had heard about the show was just how great Alec Baldwin was as Jack Donaghy, the new boss. At the beginning of the season I was worried they were going to be playing him as clueless, a kind of riff on the Office boss, but it became clearer and clearer as the episodes progressed that Donaghy knew what was going on.
I love you, Alec Baldwin.
And I’m not ashamed to say it. He is absolutely amazing on this show and if everybody else was lame, but he was the same the show would still be worth watching.
My favorite episode of the season has to be the Paul Reubens cameo. You have Baldwin and Fey going to a birthday dinner for some Austrian royalty, played by Reubens and it was so damn insane and off-the-wall that I gut-laughed. Reubens in the man.
And not only that, but it’s this episode that introduces us to Isebella Rossellini, playing Baldwin’s soon to be ex. There’s a cat-fight. A cat-fight and Paul Reubens with fake puppet legs and a child’s ivory hand? What more can you expect out of network television?
The rest of the cast all turn in great comedic work as well. From Judah Friedlander and Keith Powell as members of the writing staff to Jane Krakowski (over-sexed and little dumb star of the show) to Tracy Morgan (the replacement “star” of the show) to Rachel Dratch (who is the “Oh My God, You Killed Kenny!” of the season, appearing in every episode as a different character… my favorite by far is “the Blue Dude”) and finally… to Jack McBrayer.
I love you, Jack McBrayer.
If there’s a break-out role on the show it’s McBrayer’s Kenneth Parcell, the lovable NBC page who has a Mormon-like kindness and positive outlook on the world. He’s unfailingly happy.
Although the two characters share nothing in common, I couldn’t help but think of Mackenzie Crook as Gareth from the original UK Office while watching McBrayer work. It was that same sense that every single time you saw this guy pop up something really damn funny was going to happen that is at once totally in character, but also a different twist on what you’d expect.
The discs aren’t overloaded with extras, but there are a fair amount of goodies for ya’.
On the third and last disc you get 5 commentary tracks on 5 different episodes, you get a gag reel that played at the wrap party, you get deleted scenes, a series of behind the scenes shot by various cast members (mostly Judah Friedlander), “An Evening With Kenneth” and Makin’ It Happen.
Makin’ It Happen is a gag in the show about a successful 10 second online TV sitcom. In the show we only see one, but there are 3 on here. It’s always one camera and a couple on a coach. My favorite has the husband opening the door and bringing in a black kid. “Hey honey! Look who I adopted!” The wife rolls her eyes. “Oh, great!” and the kid looks at the camera with a big smile and says, “Catch phrase!”
An Evening with Kenneth is Jack McBrayer, in character, hosting his own show with a crappy video camera set up at his desk and he gets the people around him from the show to be his guests. So, all of it is in character. You get Krakowski, Jordan and Friedlander doing some funny stuff and a weird tangent about kittens.
The Gag Reel… perfect. I love these things so much. And yes, Ms. Fey… I even love your “weird eye.”
The commentaries.
TRACY DOES CONAN – Commentary by Tracy Morgan.
Tracy Morgan is surprisingly frank in this commentary, talking about how he didn’t really base Tracy Jordan off of Martin Lawrence (the two have similar moments involving running down a street in their skivvies) or himself, really. He talks about how he was in a low place before he got this show, with DUIs and little quality work. I wasn’t expecting such frank and open insight. Or maybe he was just fucking with me. I don’t know.
BLACK TIE – Commentary by Tina Fey
This is the favorite episode I was talking about earlier with Paul Reubens. Fey gives the most insightful commentary of the batch given that she’s not only the star of the show, but one of the creators as well. The only drawback is how much she brings up her husband. I agree, his musical work on the show is great, but you don’t need to shatter my dreams over and over again!
HARD BALL – Commentary by Lorne & Henry Michaels
This one is actually intro’d by Fey and you’ll understand why when you listen to it. It’s SNL honcho (and show exec. Producer) Lorne Michaels and his kid, Henry, who was instrumental in getting this show going. They pretty much just watch the show, featuring Krakowski’s character confusing Barack Obama and Osama Bin Laden on Hard Ball, and say the occasional “She’s so good in this.” “Yeah…” “He’s good in this.” “This is funny.” That’s about it.
FIREWORKS – Commentary by Jack McBrayer
This is another great episode featuring a guest appearance by Will Arnet and a short, short bathrobe. It really is a great pick for a commentary by McBrayer because he owns this episode. Arnett is a colleague/competitor of Baldwin’s character and it turns out Arnett wants to fuck Kenneth, so Baldwin sends him in to seduce his enemy.
McBrayer’s commentary was light and fun. He got some laughs out of me in the 23-ish minutes he had to talk.
HIATUS – Commentary by Alec Baldwin
This is the final episode of the season and Baldwin has a ton to talk about. He sounds so happy to be a part of this show… and he talks a lot about who is really horny in the cast. Gotta love the Baldwin.
So, yeah. This box set comes out tomorrow. If you’re a fan of the show you were probably going to add it to the shelf anyway, but if you were on the fence the discs won’t blow you away with extra features, but you’ll get a decent amount of goodies.
If you haven’t seen the show, you like comedy and you have an extra $30 or so burning a hole in your pocket you should be very happy with your purchase.
Yes, the season finale was anti-climatic, but you can’t deny the power this show has. It’s big, epic and has some incredibly smart character work, especially considering how many characters they balance.
This show is iconic for a reason. Tim Kring and Jeph Loeb know what they’re doing.
Think about it. They take superhero stereotypes (healing factor, the Jeckyll & Hyde split personality, teleportation, flight, invisibility, telekinesis, etc) and ground it in some really. Television really is a great way to make a moving graphic novel. You can balance all these characters and if you’re lucky you can make something fantastic.
Consider how fully fleshed out most of the characters on Heroes are. Consider how many layers there are to Sylar, the big villain of the show. Consider just how iconic some of the characters are. The cheerleader, Hiro, the beautiful Tim Sale paintings…
Yes, I’m a big fan of this show and they really went all out for the Season One DVD set.
I have seen both the Standard Def and HD set. I’ll get to the HD-DVD specifics in a moment, but there really isn’t a drastic difference.
There are more commentaries than you can shake a stick at. I’ve never really understood that saying, but it fits here. At least half the episodes have a full length commentary, each commentary have at least 3 people. Every single one of the main characters get a chance to talk. In fact, there was only one noticeable absence: Ali Larter.
On the commentaries: Hayden Panettiere, Masi Oka, James Kyson Lee (Ando), Sendhil Ramamurthy (Mohinder), Jack Coleman (Mr. Bennett), Milo Ventimiglia, Noah Gray-Cabey, Greg Grunberg, Zachary Quinto, Jimmy-Jean Louis (Haitian), Santiago Cabrera, Leonard Roberts (DL), Matthew John Armstrong (Ted Sprague), George Takai and a lot of the writers and directors, including Tim Kring, Jeph Loeb and Allan Arkush.
Did you know that Allan Arkush, one of the main directors, directed ROCK AND ROLL HIGH SCHOOL? How awesome is that?
Greg Grunberg (Parkman) is the most common commentator and probably the one with the most geeky energy. He loves this shit and is having so much fun that he shouts it from the rooftops.
Most of the cast members keep the commentaries light and funny. I can’t think of one that I was bored through, even the one that was nothing but the top level creators’ assistants. That one was a bit awkward, but still fun.
There are tons of behind the scenes and department specific documentaries (ie stunts, effects, etc) on the final disc. My favorite being the one focusing on how they do the freeze-time effects… surprisingly low-tech.
So, I updated my player, I connected it to the internets and I got all ready for the web-enabled features and bam… got the HD-DVD set and I was ready to go.
The only big feature I watched on the Standard Def discs was the commentary on the original unaired 72-minute pilot by Tim Kring. I listened to all the other commentaries on the HD discs and there’s a reason.
Let’s talk about the web-enabled features first. I have to say, pretty lame. There’s a little MySpace-like “which super power would you have” questionnaire, but it’s difficult to type in your choices with the remote and for some odd reason my player kept taking me out of the menu half-way through filling it out, each of the three times I tried.
Now, the download center is pretty cool and I can see that feature really being awesome. I downloaded the Comic-Con preview for Season 2 and chose not to download the previews for future Universal DVD releases like KNOCKED UP.
The only drawback I see here is that the downloaded content was not in HD and I think the reason is the small amount of memory the DVD players come with. In the future, I’m sure there will be plenty, but just the SD Season 2 preview I downloaded took up a third of my available memory.
However, the U-control features on this are outstanding. You can turn on 4 things. Helix Revealed which alerts you whenever the half-helix symbol of the show is hidden into a scene (quite often, I must say), Character Connections which pretty much creates the string chart from later in the series explaining how each of the characters are connected (be it through blood, friendship or a chance interaction), picture in picture audio commentary and Artwork Presentation where you can get a closer look at the comic book and paintings each time they pop up in a scene.
The Picture In Picture commentaries were my favorites. You can hear the commentaries on the SD set, but there is something really cool about watching these people interact.
They recorded the commentaries on different sets as they were shooting season 1, so most of the time the actors are in costume. It’s a multiple camera set up and sometimes the wandering camera focuses on weird things. There’s one commentary featuring Hayden Panettiere where the cameraman is obsessed with her hands, which are occasionally fidgeting in her lap. I felt a little creepy watching that, like some sick hand-fetishist peeping tom. But it’s all good.
Of the commentaries, the one that stuck out the most for me was George Takai’s. He brought up Star Trek a lot (sometimes randomly) and was flamboyant enough to really cause some chuckles. It wasn’t that he would make a suggestive comment, but how the others with him (I think Masi Oka was there as well) would pause awkwardly then continue on. If it was a vocal commentary only you might not notice, but seeing the wheels turn… “Do I acknowledge that or do I just keep going like nothing happened?” was awesome.
The sound and transfer were great, of course. Hopefully as downloadable extras content becomes quicker and better that feature will improve. You do get more with the HD-DVD box set, so it shouldn’t even be a question if you have an HD-DVD player which version to pick up.
I have a few more DVDs either here or coming, including another batch from Criterion, so I’ll be back soon to discuss those. Thanks for reading!
-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com
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numero uno
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Cant wait for this fucking show to start up again.
Anyone see those pics of the Cheerleader in Maxim?
Id love to make a map of Hawaii all over her cute little forehead.
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Though it did feel a little bit like an open world Lost which i guess isn't a bad thing since we lost the ability to watch lost here in UK!
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Sounds promising.Is it anything like Larry Sanders?
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Sep 03, 2007 10:33:33 AM CDT
i just can't believe how pathetic that final fight was
by george newman
I kept telling my friends that the show was making us wait for the big showdown, with each Peter/Sylar encounter it was just a tease... But no. It was pathetic.
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Lost is now on Sky One.
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If you were expecting the fight to end all fights, then yes, the finale would suck for you. I wasn't expecting anything, so I enjoyed what we got.
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Stupid liberal bitch responsible for meangirls what the fuck is everyone retarded? Not to mention she single handedly ruined weekend update. Although I will admit she is at her best on 30 rock, probablly cuz she isn't writing the jokes (just sits in at the meetings for a writing credit) STUPID COOZE.
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Sep 03, 2007 10:45:23 AM CDT
Does Heroes still rip off 4400, X-Men, and Rising Stars
by browncoatjedi
Not to mention Lost?
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Deys gives da' best head. Sides, I fuck Tina b fo' i fuck dat' rightwing crazee ho Anne Couture. Dat bitch be mad.
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Sep 03, 2007 10:49:17 AM CDT
I got around to watching the 1st episode last night
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
I downloaded the HD version on XBOX360 since it was free and I was impressed. I am going to pick up the HD-DVD box.
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Hilarious character, not overused. "30 Rock" took a few episodes to sell me, but now I love it. Kinda like crossing "Mary Tyler Moore" with "SNL" Plus, NBC is actually allowing itself to be racked through the coals.
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"Raked" - started drinking too early on Labor Day.
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Yep, Heroes is ripping off every comic-book (and ripping them off well). Lost is still struggling to 'homage' Stephen King novels to a good standard however, which is a shame.
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...now that the DVD sets are out. 30 ROCK is indeed great; the one with the 9-11/fireworks ending had me in hysterics. Oh, and I love you, Quint.
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Anyone know if it made it to the UK? I want to watch, can't afford another DVD.
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I think, if you looked back over the season, you'd realise the finale fits in nicely with the themes prevalent. Peter - Sylar fighting was never the major storyline you guys thought it was.
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...am I the only one that has very little interest in seeing it again on DVD? I'm not sure how well the whole thing stands up. Other than a few characters, the stories were kind of boring and some of the acting bad. Also the action was mixed at best, especially the finale.
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30 Rock is because the first few aren't that great. It took the show a few weeks to find its legs. Once it did it's great comedy.
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tina fey is sexxxy
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I think Richnond's contribtion to the show with his musical score really heps it as well. 30 Rock reminds me of Arrested Development in how well the music helps set the comedic tone.
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The second half offered a lot of nothing much happening. It's almost as if they had the first 13 eps all planned and panicked when they got the full season order.
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Filing started for Lost Boys II.Corey Feldman and Jamison Newlander reprising their roles as the Frog brothers.Does anyone know anymore about this?
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...is pretty terrible. It's all over the place with no real focus or insight. I think this has to do with the fact that these "commentaries" are basically those short webisode things you could watch alongside the show on nbc.com. Having the Standard Dvd doesn't help since I can't watch along with them like you could on the website and CAN on the HD...they're still pretty bad though.
Having just finished the season again though I must say I enjoyed it MUCH more than I did while watching it on tv. I'm actually quite excited for the second season. -
I'll wait til it's "vastly encheapened".
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Was the same as what was online? I could have sworn I watched an episode with commentary with the 3 assistants on nbc.com.
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Yes, it was. On the other hand, if they had done the ending I wanted to see, it probably would've cost 40 million dollars to film the final fight. Damn limitations of television!
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both from NBC. i guess being in last place forces a network to take more chances or something. hopefully they continue the trend this season.
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I don't know, maybe I'm just old school aicn - before Herc, back when glen ran coaxial, then el cosmico - but isn't the role of coaxial on this site to run this sort of articles. If I remember, the idea was that anything that went through a coaxial cable - tv, video, and video games at one point i think - was reported on at coaxial. It started to bother me when Harry and Drew would post their DVD reviews on the main section, but i figured those were still MOVIE related. But now TV DVD reviews on the movie section? What's the purpose of coaxial now, besides just a place for Herc to post on? Maybe some of the contributers feel coaxial is below them I don't know. Whatever. I'm just being picky though...
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The second series of Lost was most definitly not 'a rough patch':in fact it was stronger than the third series, which (even though I enjoyed it a lot) was far too slow to start. (And for my money the hatch and evrything revolving around the hatch was the most intresting idea they've had on the show)
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If you're someone like Tina Fey and you have tons invested in a show like 30 Rock, spend a day and record a few more commentaries and make sure your DVD sells. It isn't like 30 Rock is a ratings hit, you might as well do everything you can to make sure it earns money and grows fans. The Heroes box sounds really good, but I'm not going to buy an SD version, and I don't have an HD player yet. I'll wait for a price drop on a player and on the set. I have more than enough to watch till then.
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Where's the HD discs of 30 Rock?
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I must have pissed in darth girlfriend's Cheerios. This person loves to keep bringing these up, like it's something I'd be embarrassed about. I do love Family Guy. Me and a few million others. I also love The Office, Extras, South Park, Simpsons, 24, Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Carnivale, The Shield. I can go on with TV I'm watching.The Dane Cook comment comes from his stand-up. Sure, the show ended up sucking and even went so far as to turn me off of his current persona, but I still stand by my enjoyment of his pre-HBO masturbatory show material. But I'm retarded, I forgot. I'm going to go back to eating Play-Doh and hitting my helmeted head against the wall now.
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Now Dane Cook on the otherhand, has me scrathin' my head. I gave his HBO stand-up special a try and came to the conclusion that the ad execs of Madison Ave. must've worked their magic to convince the masses that this guy is funny. But i'm here to tell everyone that The Emperor Ain't Wearin' No Clothes.
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I thought that one of the weakest parts of the season was how they handled the Greg Grunberg character. His story felt like it was given short shrift, and finding out that Ted the radioactive caveman would have originally been the middle eastern ex-terrorist guy with a past connection to Grunberg's cop makes me sorry they removed that plot. Clearly they had a more pronounced arc for both characters than what was shown in the end, and that's a terrible shamme. I agree, the finale was very anticlimactic too, but after all the set up, it couldn't have NOT be a let down without samurais fighting dinosaurs in the streets of Manhattan in an action scene to rival the battle with the Omnidroid in the Incredibles. But failing that, I found the convergence of all the heroes to be forced and awkward--when Nikki helped Peter it really got forced because she had no reason to do that based on what they had shown. Of course seeing the DVDs, it looks like half the show was cut out, so no wonder they don't know what they've set up or not set up properly. In this next season, I want better pay offs in the action. I don't know how, but they need to step it up. Get some of those Buffy choreographers to stage them a descent fist fight at least--but SOMETHING to live up to the sense that these are warriors against evil. I'd also like it if they stopped killing people off. That's fine for when you've got a bunch of dead weight like on Lost, but Heroes has a lot of characters that have lots of potential that they are killing off (Eden I miss you!!!). Also, I hope my favorite characters (Hiro and Peter) survive the rumored early-season 2 death. I'm pretty sure DL is gonna die because there's been nothing on him in season 2, but I haven't seen anything for Peter either...
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For one thing, it's good. For another, The 4400 ripped off other stuff first and not very well. Both insist on using the phrase "people with abilities" which is lame but that's about the end of the similarities. There's obviously more mythology on Heroes than on 4400, which was a lot better when it was about alien abductees than since it has become about shit from the future. Going back and watching that show from the beginning makes me think they didn't know where they were going, where as seeing Heroes from the beginning again reveals many new and interesting things. It's not perfect, but it's still the better of the two shows.
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Can I interest you in a working position at The Gem? I'm looking for a few new whores to turn a trick or two. Sucking cock and the like.
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The hatch was a miraculous place.
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THAT pretty much is my post. I don't really have anything more to add. I'll....go away now, thanks.
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Look, I'm a big fan of Tim Sale. He has drawn some really terrific comic books. But the paintings on heroes look like they were drawn by Don Heck when he was loaded.
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I was watching the brilliant ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT the other day and I saw the guy who plays Kenneth playing pretty much Kenneth. Anybody else has caught this? He's a waiter at the club and he has the same positive attitude... Until Lucille Bluth is mentioned. God I miss Arrested Development. Maybe that's why I found GOB's appearance on 30 ROCK so underwhelming... He used to have the perfect material. Now he was just wearing a ridiculous robe. Bring back Arrested Fucking Development!
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but my least favorite episode might be the Pee Wee one. Even when Quint is right, he is still wrong.
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Master Shake from ATHF is more complex than Sylar.
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"America... which I invented...." Baldwin is off the fucking hook!
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Just because he has a crazy mommy doesn't mean that he's complex.
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I caught the show a few shows in so I missed the slightly off first few (which I was able to view on NBC's website). Frankly, I was surprised how the strong the show is considering it's nestled in which The Office and Scrubs.Frankly, it's a little upsetting that it's so good that it makes me see flaws in The Office and Scrubs. Don't ruin the Jenna Fischer/ Tina Fey combo for me, NBC!
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Unlike what? For the most part superhero books and movies try to ground their characters. Certainly there are exceptions but Batman and Robin was only as unreal as Jean Claude Van Damme's body of work. So it really pisses me off when the actors and dumbass viewers try to act like "What if *I* had superpowers?" is as groundbreaking as the Colorado River.This will be canceled when it loses viewership to a show about a single *guy* living with a single *girl*! Or a doctor who cares about his patients despite what the hospital board thinks! Or a cop who plays by his own rules! Or an animal that can talk! Or a mother who's a car!
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...as Thomas Jefferson on "Jerry Springer" is worth the purchase-price of this DVD set all by itself. Classic fucking moment.
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Family Guy in it's first 2 seasons was quite funny. I just don't think they've found that old brashness since they got re-renewed. I stopped watching it after the first couple episodes of the "new" seasons.
The first time I saw Dane Cook about 6 years ago I thought he had real potential. He was a young kid, appealing to the college age crowd (one of the few comics that really seemed to know their niche at the time) and had some really cool pacing and approach to his material. Then he became famous and apparently forgot that fame means you have to work even harder to stay on top. His HBO special was self-important and hackneyed at best and he hasn't done anything funny in years. Once I saw his stupid hand gesture as the centerpiece of his special I knew he had begun to take himslef way too seriously. But seriously listen to his very early stuff. He was a funny guy at one time. -
30 Rock shows what a tiny bit of patience can do for a network. Yeha, the ratings still suck, but the show's in a much better position now than when it first started, since it's got Emmy nominations and stuff. The first few episodes the show was definitely still trying to find its groove...the pilot in particular just plain isn't that good. I stopped watching it really early on, then returned midseason to find that it was suddenly hilarious. It's got me as a viewer now for Season 2, definitely.
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Is that a Freudian slip?
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"No." Bicycles away.
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You can't go wrong with Kenneth
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I will also buy the Heroes set when it is "vastly encheapened". Lost is the only show that makes me run out and buy the DVD set right when it's released. My 350mb TV rips will suffice for now though, especially since I have them encoded on DVD's anyway. I actually want to check out the HDDVD of Heroes... that review actually made me want to go out and buy a HDDVD player... but I must wait until those are encheapened as well, because standard DVD is fine for me right now. 30 Rock is an awesome show, I agree. I have only watched the first 2 or 3 episodes though, I need to see the rest. Sounds like it gets even better.
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At least they concluded some major story arcs. Instead of finding a hole in the ground leading to something the writers hadn't written yet. THAT was anticlimactic.
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and that's Rachel Dratch. She has GOT to be the unfunniest woman in comedy. Everytime she appears on screen I want to switch channels. She exemplifies all the worst in comedic acting. All she ever does is grimace, twitch, bug her eyes, and bray her lines with all the subtlty of a ballpeen hammer in the nuts. Thank GOD she was kicked out of the role originally intened for her (Jenna) -- 'cause, even with the rest of that great cast, the show would've sunk without a trace.
Now... about Tina Fey. Let me paraphrase Jacqueline Bisset in SCENES FROM THE CLASS STRUGGLE IN BEVERLY HILLS: "I would suck her box 'til her nose bled." -
On Heroes? Are we watching the same show? The characters have one trait each, and the writers frequently can't sell even that. (Grunberg's supposedly crumbling marriage seemed like a very mild spat at worst, and the relationship between Peter and Nathan featured some of the most godawful dialogue I've ever heard). Then there's the hilarious way the characters keep forgetting they have powers, especially Peter, who's virtually ominpotent at this point, yet can't do anything but cringe and explode in the finale. Here's how Heroes works: they set up something that seems like it's going to be completely and utterly awesome, then resolve it in a way that makes no sense and is frequently nonsensical, but not before they've set up something else "cool" for you to anticipate and hopefully distract you from the fact that they dropped the ball with the last thing. Then came the season finale, and they had nowhere else to go, so of course it was disappointing (despite their attempts to do another distracting setup for next SEASON with Hiro going back in time). It's possible that they'll get their act together for season 2, since the show still does have a lot of potential, but until then, no, the writers do NOT know what they're doing, Monki.
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Quint, not Monki. But you're still wrong!
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