Hi Herc, Not sure if anyone has checked in from Atlanta yet, but I attended the Battlestar Galactica Q&A session this morning at DragonCon. Jamie Bamber (Apollo), Aaron Douglas (Chief Tyrol) and Richard Hatch (original Apollo, Tom Zarek) asnwered questions for an hour. They were very funny and we did learn a few things... The writers sequestered themselves in Utah to finish the series and even the three actors do not know how it ends. Douglas was originally upset to learn his character was a cylon, but a 90-minute phone conversation with Ron Moore changed his mind. Kara Thrace is definitely alive and back on the show.[We also hear Bill Adama throws her hinder in stir, believing her to be a Cylon.]
Lee will be doing more "civilian" things, confirmed by Bamber's longer hair and beard. Chief opens the season dealing (badly) with the news that he is a cylon. Douglas said that his hair (which is quite short) actually is growing back from early shooting of episodes for next season. And some bad news: There are 20 episodes in the final season and the plan now from Sci-Fi is to show 10 of them in Feb. of 2008 and then wait until Feb. of 2009 to show the final 10! Needless to say, the large crowd at the panel was not pleased considering the 18-month gap we are already enduring.[Actually, the last episode of season three arrived on SciFi March 25 of this year.]
The actors actually ripped sci-fi, with Bamber saying that the channel is not used to producing high quality material and now that it has a hit, it doesn't know what to do with it. Douglas also mentioned that once BSG is done, he plans to move on and not do many appearances, so DragonCon could be one of his final con visits. Thanks, Herc. If you use this, please call me Jedi X...UPDATE!! "Jedi X" wrote in Sunday morning with this:
Hey Herc, "Jedi X" checking back in about the BSG panel from DragonCon. I know some of the message boards are saying that the actors were joking about the final season being split between 08 and 09, but here is why some people might think that... Douglas, Bamber and Hatch were talking about the current gap in the show and one of them said that the plan was to split the final season between 2008 and 2009, a lot of people laughed and thought it was a joke and that they were ripping sci-fi. But then Bamber said "no, really. That's the plan right now." and then the audience groaned. So he may have been adding to the "joke" but that was not the impression I got. He even went on to say that that is how Sci-Fi essentially gets two final seasons for the cost of one.
Sept. 1, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST
This upsets me. Bamber is right, they have no idea what they are doing.
Sept. 1, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST
please please tell me this is wrong!
Sept. 1, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST
They are actors. They shouldn't all need hair changes for character development. Everyone will be back to normal a few episodes into the season.
Sept. 1, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST
Fuck the episode delay.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST
and, if they do, like the Sopranos, I will say EFF em and not watch at all until it is ALL out on DVD.<p>Hopefully this is bogus information. If they wanted BSG on thru 2009, why not sign up for 5 seasons, instead of shortening it to 4.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:10 p.m. CST
Jesus, did they make the subject line even shorter?? I miss the old super long subject lines... Anyhoo, BRING US THE REAL GRINDHOUSE, TARANTINO AND RODRIGUEZ YOU BASTARDS!
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:10 p.m. CST
Seriously, if Trek all those years could push for 7 seasons, BSG has more than a few left in them. Bring on a big screen adapt.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:10 p.m. CST
Because you know one is coming.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:17 p.m. CST
by Sir Loin
I have MUCH more respect for those actors now, and they are right about the Sci-Fi Channel morons. "Hey, we've got a hit...let's destroy it!" FARSCAPE all over again. BSG should've switched to NBC when it struck ratings gold, I think it would've done well paired up with HEROES. But oooooh noooo, we can't have that.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:21 p.m. CST
Why the fuck don't they do a 5th season if this shit is happening? Are they insane? By all means, air 10 from Feb then 10 from Oct or something, but the following February?? Idiots.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:22 p.m. CST
After all this time after fucking up Farscape they still haven't learned a god damned thing. Keeping us on the line for yet another year will allow them to sell more commercials. And fuck the fans, let them moan, they're going to watch anyway, right? Well I say end the show and get your asses working on A NEW SHOW that will bring us all back in Fall 2008 or Jan 2009. Fucking assholes. What a bummer for a holiday weekend.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fahuck... sci fi is worse than unreliable hobo hbo.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:44 p.m. CST
are released then I'm gon' have me a BSG Couch Potato-Thon with a bucked of fried pork strips, a big bag of chili cheese fritos and a fridge full of Pabst Blue Ribbon. I refuse to go through the same shit that TNT put a mutha fucka through with Babylon 5 back in the day. Didn't know when the shit gon' air. Had to months on end and shit, pissin' N*%$a off. I hope they don't pull that shit with Eureka during its inevitable end run...Cuz I need my Salli Richardson fix. That girl got azz fo' days.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:56 p.m. CST
If this is true then fuck it, I'll just consider the series canceled now and just not watch.
Sept. 1, 2007, 11:59 p.m. CST
by Larry of Arabia
Megasnake, Python v. Boa, The Snake King, Basalisk: the Serpent King, Fire Serpent, The King of Serpents, Megapython, King Boa, Basalisk v. Megasnakeking . . .
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:04 a.m. CST
If I were still a BSG fan, I would be extremely pissed off by this news. I feel for you guys. Luckily for me, Season Three disgusted me so much that I gave up on it around mid-season. My guess would be that this is a stunt. Kind of a showbiz Hail Mary play. If the first half of Season Four performs well, then they have a LOT of time to change their minds about this being the final season.
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:10 a.m. CST
I mean, we all know what the format of the show is like...the first 10 episodes of this final season will probably be awesome...but it will leave us with an extreme cliffhanger and plenty of unresolved questions. It's just insanity to wait that long when it's already in the can.
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:29 a.m. CST
Flash Gordon. They went with Flash Gordon. They could have had more Battlestar, more Ron Moore, but no. They went with Flash FUCKING Gordon. Sci Fi will reap what Sci Fi will sow.
Sept. 2, 2007, 1:10 a.m. CST
WTF, first NBC wants to yank off iTunes and now this shite? Is someone working on a movie in between all this? I'll catch up with Netflix online rentals in 2010 then.
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:05 a.m. CST
any one of us could die during the break...just show us all the episodes in 2008 in case we don't make it to feb 2009....c'mon now!
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:09 a.m. CST
Really I was done. But I figured I could hang on for a few more weeks just to get closure. After all, since I only watch about 5-10 shows (I should count some time) all year long, I doubted anything else was going to be on. I figured I could watch, but just not care. <p>But if they are going to stretch this out ... I am out of here. <p> I figure I'll work my way through the W.C. Fields collections
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:09 a.m. CST
They really messed it up for BSG. <br> <br> They would rather have the new Flash Boredom than BSG- WTF?? I loved BSG and thought the show was brilliant, beyond what SCIFI ever produced. <br> <br> BSG was critically acclaimed and its viewership wideley regarded it as one of the best sci fi shows on TV ever. Hell, even the mainstream media took notice of how good BSG is and they had to royally screw it up by forcing BSG producers to end it early. <br> <br> Y’know, given the inclusion of the wrestling shows, inferior B quality concepts like their new self proclaimed re-imagining of Flash Gordon, and other bombed ideas, it reminds me how some irate BSG fans used to call the show GINO- Galactica In Name Only. I’ll tell you what- the SCIFI Channel’s programming execs are heading the entire channel the same way –SCIFIINO. ----- SCIFI in name only- brought to you by alpha male smackdown wrestlers of the Bonnie Hammer Channel. <br> <br> Yeah- I said it. <br> <br> I'm upset at the SCIFI execs. They lack vision. Brilliant productions will bring viewership. If they keep churning out hack work, they won't get the respect, the buzz or the street cred. Like Galactica, give us something that will make us come out of our genre circle and talk to our friends, co-workers and everyone else of this new thing on SCIFI. The fans will generate the buzz and the backbone of the street cred. Instead SCIFI disappointed us and cancels all the good shows and keeps churning out hack work. <br> <br> Way to go, SCIFI
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:10 a.m. CST
You forgot the other theme-style movies, like Atomic Twister, and Dinosaur-rama, and oh yes, all those glorious Croco-gator classics. Man, Sci-Fi, what hast thy wrought?
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:14 a.m. CST
Which reminds me, how can a science fiction channel show wrestling? Please, someone explain that one to me.
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:18 a.m. CST
All the crap on this channel!! They should have picked-up/bought Joss Whedon's Firefly a few years ago. Oh the possibilities....but then again, they may have screwed with this one too.
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:22 a.m. CST
by Big Dumb Ape
Did anyone catch that piece of shit? Wow! Not quite up there with the classic wretchedness of MANSQUITO, but it was damn close. Then again ANY snake movie from Sci Fi is bound to be vomit hurling, so why even debate the fact?<p>What I want to know is, was being in THAT actually the "prize" that the guy got for winning last year's WHO WANTS TO BE A SUPERHERO? I swear, as I seemed to remember things, they claimed that the Grand Prize was you got to actually "star" in your own Sci Fi Channel movie. But Feedback got the world's LAMEST 30 second cameo towards the finale, basically playing an amusement park circus act. Are you kidding me? THAT was the prize? I thought he was supposed to get his own movie -- but then again, after sitting through STAN LEE'S HARPIES on Sci Fi as well, maybe he was lucky that he DIDN'T get his own film. That would have ended any hope of an acting career right there and then. I mean STAN LEE'S HARPIES was a total wow. I mean just WOW. Talk about another jaw-dropping Sci Fi Channel shitfest!<p>Which of course brings up the bigger question: namely, who the hell is greenlighting things over there? What, does someone have incriminating pictures of Bonnie Hammer screwing someone on her desk? Or do the Sci Fi Channel yahoo suits actually have the WORST taste in all of TV programming history?<p>Oh yeah, and this BSG news is utter bullshit, but I'm glad to see Bamber completely calling them on it...
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:23 a.m. CST
Don't think of it as a sci-fi channel airing wrestling. Think of it as a channel that--outside of one or two exceptions that just happen to be sci-fi--airs an unending stream of shit. Adding wrestling into that mix doesn't seem so conspicuous when you think of it that way.
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST
The reason they moved the start of Season 4 to January was so they could air the season without any interruptions, since they lose viewers during the long breaks and re-runs. I call bullshit on this "source".
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:37 a.m. CST
fuck sci fi channel. their one good hit and they cant stand it they have to remind us all why they only had one hit tv show.
Sept. 2, 2007, 3:32 a.m. CST
they mess everything up. they used to be cool at the start, but they just lost after they cancelled Farscape.
Sept. 2, 2007, 4 a.m. CST
I'm a total hardcore fan of this show. I love everything they've ever done and I track every movement of every cast member online. And yet, I feel they've betrayed me, so I'm gonna quit watching. Yes, I love this show so much, that just because I've got my knickers in a twist, I'm going to totally quit watching and just read books instead maybe.
Sept. 2, 2007, 4:07 a.m. CST
..Just for a sec. When you are a nitch network that maybe gets 25% of the programming money FX gets(and lets say FX get 50% of what Fox broadcast network gets in programming cost) I would too split a show's season in half for double the rating for just the cost of one season. One show doesn't make a network. This is the downside to cable networks that cater to one type of audience. When that audience doesn't tune in enough to actually get the money coffers up to support shows like Stargate and BSG and Farscape for a very long "broadcast TV" time. They get "cutbacks" and I think you guys wouldn't want to see what BSG would look like if they cut the budget of it to run it for another season or two... Think Sliders on Sci-fi(Remember that "they should of picked up firefly" fans)
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:13 a.m. CST
by THE GALACTICAN
If they want BSG in 2009 too they should make a fifth season! Stripping one season over two years will do nothing but diminish the fanbase. Given their lousy Flash-Gordon-series the should do more BSG right now.
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:19 a.m. CST
That's not one season of 20 episodes. It's two seasons of 10 episodes.
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Come on!! We have accepted that the show is ending. Please just run it to natural end. Dont frak around with us by mating us wait for a year!!! longer than we have to <p>Please!!!
Sept. 2, 2007, 6:14 a.m. CST
by The Ape Giggins
I wonder if this means he's joined that Baltar cult, Baltar has a beard and long hair... Also, I love that Starbuck will be believed to be a cylon, that's keeping with the logic of the show
Sept. 2, 2007, 6:15 a.m. CST
they would end it like blazing saddles.<br> A dance number through Sci-Fi's office and cubicles.<br><br>Aaron Douglas will have nuthin to do the rest of his life but cons and Science channel narration. <br>But hey, possibly beats what I will be doing.
Sept. 2, 2007, 6:25 a.m. CST
by Cupid Stunt
they are now saying on the Galactica boards that this statement was merely a joke. it better be. If Scifi wanted to show galactica in 2009 they should have assured Ron Moore of Season 5.
Sept. 2, 2007, 8:08 a.m. CST
I hope Sci Fi's programmers don't watch too much more British TV... Absolutely Fabulous had like 6 episodes a season. We might end up watching season 4 right through the end of 2010. (So it was just a joke right?)
Sept. 2, 2007, 8:15 a.m. CST
If you include Razor, then they should have 11 episodes next year (making S4.1 13-episodes), and then bump up 2009's episodes to 13.
Sept. 2, 2007, 8:27 a.m. CST
A couple of months ago Jack Welch was asked my Zucker still had a job. His answer? Because Welch isn't in charge any more! Oh, and thanks for screwing up the itune gig, too. You troll!
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:01 a.m. CST
and bonnie likes to make shit. cheap shit. lots of it. so bonnie will drag out bsg as long as skiffy can. b/c nothing else that channel has, except for BBC reruns, are worth watching.
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
First Farscape... now they have canceled BSG and want to run the final eps in 2009. What a bunch of fucking idiots!
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST
The sci-fi channel aparrently likes to kick itself in the nards, and by this I mean, it likes to treat the best shows it has like crap.... I personally believe that they really don't care, as long as they are making money, it doesn't matter, to them Battlestar Galactica is old news, they are looking for the next big thing now and failing miserably, I really hope Flash Gordon gets canceled sooner than later. BRING BACK DRESDEN FILES, it's a dark future for sci-fi channel. Let's hope "Tin Man" doesn't suck... oh wait, it's a mini series on sci-fi, that guarantees it will suck... name one good movie or mini-series on sci-fi that was good? and I mean other than the BSG mini or Farscape mini...
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST
frak it in its stupid ass.
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST
...where Sci-Fi is concerned. <BR> <BR> At this point, I'm prepared to believe that next season will begin with a giant snake stalking the crew through the Galactica's hallways. <BR> <BR> It's clear by now that BSG was a happy accident for Sci-Fi. They got solid writing and good actors and managed to make a great show for NBC...who moved it promptly to Sci-Fi. <BR> <BR> I'll stick with the show. I want the answers I've been promised. I just hope that Bionic Woman isn't the death knell for BSG, as Eick and Co go on to make that show. <BR> <BR> For the record though, Flash Gordon continues to be a black hole of suckitude the likes of which have never been seen.
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
I think you need to check your sources on this one. Take a quick glance over at the Sci-Fi forums, it appears that it was Bamber (Apollo) who mused/joked about the year break between episodes. Sounds like he might have been doing this out of mild frustration, too. He's been somewhat outspoken in the past about his character as well as Sci-Fi's inability to give the show its due.<P>Regardless, I think it's safe to say that in a general sense, Sci-Fi has dropped the ball TOO many times. However, I can't imagine that they would do something so frakking stupid. Yet, when they run SG-1 24/7 and greenlight shows like FLASH GORDON, I have to wonder...
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:48 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...I fully expect you to be present and accounted for at the beginning of Season 4. So Say We All!
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:09 a.m. CST
...they are dropping the whole game. At least Season 1 was 13 full episodes.<P>If they really are hedging their bets in case of a ratings surge, use Amy Chasing's idea from last season's TB -- let them find earth, then deal with the repercussions. They could even go back out into space to save others left behind and bring them to Earth.
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:12 a.m. CST
Someone needs to check the water in the main office. What were they thinkin'?!
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:20 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
I don't know, man. But it sounds like that water comes from the same well as BOA vs. PYTHON, CUBE 2: HYPERCUBE, and FRANKENFISH...
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Didn't RDM say at the recent Con that they do find Earth much earlier than we might suppose?
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:33 a.m. CST
by uss cygnus
Oh, wait...everybody already knows THAT. It's easy to write "shocking" plot twists when you COMPLETELY IGNORE character history, continuity and simple logic, isn't it, Sky Scouts?
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:34 a.m. CST
Is anyone here really interested in Razor? BSG worked so hard to succeed in making me despise the whole crew of Pegasus, that I wonder why they think I'll watch it. Is Razor a multi-season project?
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:57 a.m. CST
This really sucks ass. The did the 10-10 split for S2 and S3, but only split by a few months. NOT A FUCKING YEAR! SHIT! I digress, I bitch, I complain, but I still watch.
Sept. 2, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST
And props to Bamber for back handing the Sci-Fi Network.
Sept. 2, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST
He said they don't get to Earth until the final episode.
Sept. 2, 2007, 11:17 a.m. CST
That's unforgivable. I they went back to the original 13-ep. schedule for 2 more seasons, I could see the logic in that. But 10 eps. is an unforgivably small season.
Sept. 2, 2007, noon CST
Screw Sci-Fi. They can't even show decent reruns of old science fiction shows or movies. Sci-Fi just shows homemade snake/horror stuff. I would rather watch Hercules or Buck Rogers. Keep it simple asswipes.
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:09 p.m. CST
Define ratings gold. Also show is very expensive vs its ratings ratio ,also not defending Sci-fi they do indeed suck and I gave up on the show because I need closure ever so often ,but the show was great.
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:37 p.m. CST
Good news that this might have been only a joking sarcastic comment. It was too absurd to be real, except that we ARE talking about the SciFrak channel, here.<p>Since we are talking about the channel that <p>a) shows wrestling<p>b) airs FlushGordon<p>c) retools an interesting 2-hour PainKiller Jane movie into the dullest possible series where the star can't even PRONOUNCE the word Neuro<p>cancels Dresden Files in favor of the above<p>cancels Farscape<.p<p>well something this utterly stupid seems like just another day in the executive suites at SciFrak...<p>BTW, I remember reading somewhere before that they will find Earth in the final episode--and I don't mean just reading it a few posts above! ;-)
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:43 p.m. CST
The pods from Invasion of the Body Snatchers have now taken over the Sci-Fi programming department and made this ridiculous decision. And teethgnasher, once BSG goes, SciFi will join the CW in my 'who cares' TV area.
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:43 p.m. CST
wow--I mistyped a < p > and it killed the rest of the post: <p>It would be hard to believe of any other channel, but something this utterly stupid seems like just another day in the executive suites at SciFrak... I don't think it is water--if only they WERE drinking WATER. It seems they must be smoking, snorting, mainlining and drinking all manner of hallucingenics and cognitive suppressants over there<p>BTW, I remember reading somewhere before that they will find Earth in the final episode--and I don't mean just reading it a few posts above! ;-)
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST
by Alpha Trion
if the stupid fans of jericho could get the network to listen to them, why cant we do thesame for BSG? Whether its a rumot or not, i say we all flood sci-fi with emails and letters and whatever food products we can find to get them to listen to the only audience they have. fuck them in their silly little asses!
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:52 p.m. CST
From New York Magazine, she's going to be in a new rock band called Kung-Fu Professor with Clark Duke, who plays Dale on ABC Family's Greek (and Party Teenager #1 from Superbad). <p> http://tinyurl.com/36koyo for the info. Bell told TVGuide's Ausiello, "We're not sure what we will sound like and we may not be any good, but we do know we will all be wearing cravats." (!!) She can carry a tune (Showtime's Reefer Madness and VM's Revenge of the Tritons, anyone?)
Sept. 2, 2007, 12:55 p.m. CST
Exec mainlines hallucinogenic: "I am So Smart"<p>then inhales congnitive suppressant: "dude, wrestling IS science fiction... I am so hungry--ooh, maybe a cooking show, too!"
Sept. 2, 2007, 1:06 p.m. CST
Sept. 2, 2007, 1:16 p.m. CST
On the Skiffy programming offices, hopefully with said programmers still IN the building?
Sept. 2, 2007, 1:20 p.m. CST
lol, good thinking! ...Yeah, I think this rumor is probably bullshit but as someone pointed out, after Flash Gordon I wouldn't rule anything out w/ sci-fi. I don't even want like, a one month split between episodes. I want a straight-through 24-type of season and I want it out on DVD soon after it's over. It's the last season fuckers...do it right shit-fi
Sept. 2, 2007, 1:23 p.m. CST
...canceling Star Trek, and all the other great shows that got fucked over by some idiot. Futurama, Police Squad, Freaks & Geeks etc. Flash Gordon looks shit enough to have a long, happy life with many ugly little spin-off babies, just like Stargate. Only the good die young.
Sept. 2, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST
by And Nicolas Cage as Fu Manchu
It saves funding for future masterpieces like Mega Snake, Mansquito, and Supergator. Although, Supergator did have that cute girl in the pink bikini for the 1st half.
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST
That seems to make dem' folks wit' dem' Nielsen boxes real happy.
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST
by Lord Haw Haw
There's your fifth season on a silver fucking platter, BSG fans! And if you were one of those people secretly desirous of a new and "contemporary" BSG theme by Kanye West that rhymed "Cylon" with "python", rest assured that Sci Fi's on the case!
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:12 p.m. CST
The Galactica Fleet and the Cylone Mother Hive Resurrection ship (the ship that makes all that is Cylon possible) drop into earth orbit at the same time. Earth is a pristine "Garden of Eden". All hell breaks lose in orbit as the final battle takes place. Both fleets are destroyed and two pilots crash land on the planet. Lee who identifies himself as the final core Cylon, and Kira who has known this since her disappearance. The embrace and then turn to explore this new earth as a true Adam and Eve. Remember you read it here first.
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST
So it's NOT the final season, after all. Instead we've got a ten-episode 4th season and a ten-episode 5th season. Sort of like the shorter seasons of "The Sopranos" or "Deadwood."<p> Sounds good to me.
Sept. 2, 2007, 2:43 p.m. CST
The 'Garden of Eden' theory has been floating around since the miniseries first aired.
Sept. 2, 2007, 3 p.m. CST
What's up MNG! ChromieDomie!<P>To clarify my earlier thoughts, IMHO Scifi should broadcast the full twenty. If the ratings go through the roof (TPTB would know by the 10th show), they could do a Season 5 where some crew members settle on Earth while Galactica goes out with the emptied/retrofitted fleet ships to rescue other remnants of the 12 colonies.<P>This version of Season 5 show could focus partially Earth happenings but would not be landlocked since the main story would still be on Galactica.
Sept. 2, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST
That's the reason.
Sept. 2, 2007, 3:25 p.m. CST
What is the point in producing a show if you are going to drag out the season. Smallville showed promise, but lost focus when the producers scrapped the idea of building the Superman mythos. Supergirl- too soon, Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen- too soon, Metropolis and Smallville are like 30 miles apart? WTF. As for BSG, should have been wrapped up a year ago. Make the fucking series and move on. Personally, my days of watching television are over. I will wait for the DVD set to be on clearance if I still have an interest in the show.
Sept. 2, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST
Ditto regarding the 24 reference/model.<P>24-like should be the tone of the show's search for Earth (in light of what is to happen) for all of Season 4.
Sept. 2, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST
Lets' face it, Flash Gordon's a 22 episode turkey just like Painkiller Jane, they've cancelled SG-1, Dresden Files and there's a good chance of either a writers or actors strike (my money's on the actors), that leaves just Eureka (Sci Fi's highest-rated drama). So splitting the two seasons makes sense. Anyway, enough of GINO. Lets's talk Doctor Who's second Hugo win!
Sept. 2, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST
"Hey gals, let's dress like hookers and promote a ten episode season!" That sounds like a perfect SNL sketch.
Sept. 2, 2007, 4:56 p.m. CST
The single cheesiest line of any movie ever?
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:10 p.m. CST
At least they committed to making a FULL season.
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST
Taking so long to make a show didn't pay off for the Sopranos show either. Creativity needs a deadline sometimes.
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:19 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...from teethgnasher:<P>"What is the point in producing a show if you are going to drag out the season."<br>"Make the fucking series and move on."<br>"Hey gals, let's dress like hookers and promote a ten episode season!"
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:34 p.m. CST
would come from someone who thinks the character's name is "Kira." Uh-huh.
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:43 p.m. CST
A freebee for all you budding SFChannel VP's in charge of programming for the next BSG creative conference. A tag team mud wrestling match between Katee/Grace and Tricia/Lucy in pink bikinis for the fate of the Galaxy. Last one with a top or bottom on wins. Now THAT's entertainment!.... Your welcome.
Sept. 2, 2007, 5:55 p.m. CST
So SCI-FI is doing the exact OPPOSITE of what ABC is doing with "Lost" after losing a ton of viewers because of a huge break in the middle of the season... Smaaart.
Sept. 2, 2007, 6 p.m. CST
I am going to send them standard e-mail everyday telling them that they should air the last 20 episodes during the winter and spring of 2008. You should too
Sept. 2, 2007, 6:07 p.m. CST
If they're doing this, SciFi are doing the *exact same* as ABC are doing with Lost, or didn't you hear about the remaining two 24-episode seasons of Lost being split into three years of 16-ep seasons?
Sept. 2, 2007, 8:32 p.m. CST
by Alpha Trion
and let them know if they plan on severing the fans from the show with their horrible corporate decisions, then we'll supply the salt for our wounds when theyre done.
Sept. 2, 2007, 8:34 p.m. CST
by Alpha Trion
not one that we will forget a year later when they decide to finish it.
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:04 p.m. CST
The Farscape webisodes will air. Sci-Fi will go "Hmm, they did ok! Lets make a series!". They will change the time it airs about 20 times, then split the 16 episode order into 1.5 seasons in order to make more money. They will then decide they want to film season 2 in Canada, thus losing %80 of the cast in the process. Sci-fi will replace Chiana, Stark, and Dargo (HE AINT DEAD!!!) with Amanda Tapping, Michael Shanks, and Christopher Judge and the Peacekeepers will all speak with Canadian accents now...
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:18 p.m. CST
Don't want to pay for a season beyond the fourth? Just s-t-r-e-t-c-h the already measly fourth season out over two entire years!
Sept. 2, 2007, 9:41 p.m. CST
...and then started running the piece of shit claiming to be FLASH GORDON. Sure, they still show DOCTOR WHO, but now that BBC America is running the series (with better promos, I might add), why the fuck do we need Sci Fi anymore?
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST
Never understood why Dresden was cancelled and BSG wasn't. They both got nearly identical ratings for the time they ran together.
Sept. 2, 2007, 10:55 p.m. CST
And Jennifer Garner got so effing hosed out of that 2003 Best Drama Actress Emmy award it wasn't even funny. Edie Falco drove a virtual Brinks truck to that year's emmys and STOLE Garner's rightful award. <p> We now return you to your 'lets piss on SciFi' talkback.
Sept. 2, 2007, 11:29 p.m. CST
Yea, I never got all the praise for Edie Falco in that role, either. She was good, and did the role well enough, but no better than anyone else in the show or anything. There must have been some extra Soprano's cache adding points to her score.<p>Or maybe Tony sent Joey Pants to lean on one of the judges....
Sept. 3, 2007, 12:05 a.m. CST
Flooding SciFi with emails will not work. You'll just end up with the rest of the unread spam. Believe it or not, the old fashioned paper and ink letters carry a LOT more weight with the networks.
Sept. 3, 2007, 3:21 a.m. CST
Sept. 3, 2007, 4:30 a.m. CST
I assume they expect the ratings to be higher per episode with shortened seasons? It can't be the DVD sales as they already split those suckers up.
Sept. 3, 2007, 4:33 a.m. CST
How can that not end the series with a big To Be Continued? To avoid that they'd have to of destroyed the cylons, made piece with them or earth is like wiped out from nuclear war. I'm very interested to see where this leads. I'm somewhat interested in Razor. I loved the pegasus arc, think that was the shows zenith, but that was mainly due to the power struggle and the drama related to boomer.
Sept. 3, 2007, 7:18 a.m. CST
by Sledge Hammer
...to make way for the pure awsomeness that is Painkiller Jane and Flash Gordon. And yes, I am being sarcastic (for anyone who can't spot the obvious).
Sept. 3, 2007, 10:26 a.m. CST
Like I said before, I think splitting the season up (if this rumor is actually true) could be a big Hail Mary play. If ratings for the first half of the season are significantly better, then SciFi can pull a 180 on ending the show.
Sept. 3, 2007, 10:59 a.m. CST
...do it to us. That's right, if this is true we have just been gang-raped by Sci-fi execs. Thankyou and goodnight.
Sept. 3, 2007, 11:10 a.m. CST
I'm still heartbroken that this incredible series will be coming to a close this early.
Sept. 3, 2007, 12:07 p.m. CST
I should've given you a direct hat tip regarding the Hail Mary in my related post yesterday. I mentioned Amy Chasing's idea, but should have also referenced you specifically regarding my ratings surge remark.<P>Still, if that's what they are trying to do, it's time to call SciFi staff, Eick & Moore, and a good business consultant into the conference room for a brain storming session. They should be able to do much better than this.
Sept. 3, 2007, 1:23 p.m. CST
Frakkin muther frakkin SciFi Channel beancounters AKA the Bonnie muther frakkin Hammer Channel- spliiting up the final BSG season in two years--- 2008 and 2009?????!!!!???? WTF???? Making fans wait for the end of BSG while they collect a big muther frakin check!!!!!!!!! All we want is BSG, and since they forced RDM & crew to end it early, they can't even air the frakkin episodes on time????? SciFi Channel executives- you idiots, you're saving a penny but losing a legion of fans. They can go to frakkin frak SciFi Hell, those greedy overpaid six & seven figure muther frakkin SciFi Channel executives!!!!!!!!!!!! You know what the execs discuss in the boardroom? They laugh at the sci-fi fans, call us nerds, dweebs and losers while they collect their frakkin check, but I as a fan brush it off because they have no clue what genre devotion is- you muther frakkers. We go to San Diego, We go to Dragon Con, to movie premieres on opening midnight, we buy the merchandise, hunt for the chase item, we watch the shows and buy the DVD's, we set aside time to watch the shows on TV, even though you switch around the muther frakkin days, with is your sign of a no confidence vote----- WE PAY YOUR SALARY YOU MUTHERFRAKKERS!!!!!. Hope you get probed by the Greys you frakkers!!!! <br> <br> yeah, I said it.
Sept. 3, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST
..they want to drag out the only hit they have for as long as its worth. If so they should at least order up some more episodes or at least space them out so the gap isn't so bad.
Sept. 3, 2007, 4:58 p.m. CST
Why do I always feel like a battered housewife to this show??<p>Flush Gordon makes me want to claw my eyes out.
Sept. 3, 2007, 8:43 p.m. CST
Everyone's a Cylon...most of the die in a final battle sequence...the rest find Earth and become...wait for it...LIBERALS! Dun dun DUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!
Sept. 3, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST
"Mansquito" will go to series and has a firm two season order, 22 episodes per season.
Sept. 3, 2007, 10:39 p.m. CST
...is to nuke the weak but watchable Atlantis. SciFi is done. When BSG wraps up then ADIOS. Perhaps then Mr. moore can do his "Pern."
Sept. 4, 2007, 1:13 a.m. CST
by Darth Mulder
The sooner this poorly written,poorly acted,and just plain poorly executed piece of shit excuse for a television show goes off the air the happier I will be.It's a damned shame this was allowed to hit the airwaves to begin with.
Sept. 4, 2007, 5:15 a.m. CST
by Bono Luthor
I just got the series three dvd set here in the UK and it really is the only way to watch these shows now. No capitalist propoganda interupting the flow of the story and trying to get you to spend money on things you don't need. You can watch as many episodes back to back as you need in order to get your geek fix. Modern tech and gadgets mean you have the convenience of watching pretty much when and where you want. BSG is a great, great show. Where it ends up on the all time list will depend on how it plays out between now and the end. I'm looking forward to immersing myself in this third series which has had so many mixed re-actions, but until this point I don't think they have put a foot wrong. People who can't see how well this show is written must hold Fraggle Rock in high regard as an example of good drama.
Sept. 4, 2007, 6:52 a.m. CST
It might be true. BSG writers have the same problem as Fraggle Rock writers. How to get from point A to point B in a story. This explains all the FILLER episodes from last season.
Sept. 4, 2007, 9:30 a.m. CST
will be sent in later this week. I was there as well, and have an interview with Aaron Douglas to transcribe as well as phone interviews with Jamie Bamber and Mark Sheppard (Romo the lawyer from the last 3 eps of season 3 and is in the new Bionic Woman) to do in the coming week or so. So, look here for that, as I will be sending them in when done.
Sept. 4, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST
Way to go hercules. Don't you think that tidbit should have gone in invisotext somewhere instead of being inside of a black highlighted box? Do you know anything about fan scene etiquette?
Sept. 4, 2007, 10:13 a.m. CST
AAAGGHHh! Split the final season in half over two years? Are you kidding me!? And what the hell is with the Deathproof DVD!? First of all where is the far superior Planet Terror, and second where is the full GRINDHOUSE?
Sept. 4, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST
Thank you for keeping B actors and C producers off of welfare and unemployment. Your continued support of shitty programming keeps the economy looking good.
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:04 p.m. CST
I made up my mind at the end of the last season that I'd only continue with this show if it only have one more season left. If they're going to stretch it to two seasons, then I'm not bothering with it in February. I'm sure I'll catch it on DVD eventually, but fuck Sci-Fi for this. Fuck em up their stupid asses. Maybe they'll release it all at once on Universal HD and I can simply download it all like they did for SG-1 and Atlantis last season. Sci-Fi and HBO must be sucking each others balls these days with all the 'brilliant' decisions they've been making.
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:40 p.m. CST
At the least they can shave their dumb asses! All this to protest not just how much they'll be screwing up the only thing going for them, but the obnoxious pricing of the DVD sets! What a frakkin' rape of the consumer! I guess that is the only way they can make money outside of wrestling...?
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:41 p.m. CST
Sci-fi only gets BSG 10 eps a year but gives crappy shows like Painkiller Jane more than 10! And SG-1 lasted 10 freakin years why can't BSG???! I know that may be a long time for that but you get my point. Sci-fi seems to not like anything lasting more than 4 years (Farscape anyone?) Why do they cut their own throat and do this with their best shows and leave utter garbage like Flash Gordon in the spot light? They need some new execs there or something. ugh.
Sept. 4, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST
Sept. 4, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST
I am one of the many who've been profoundly upset with the meandering that both BSG and Lost have been taking this past year (I know there are diehards here, I'm not looking for a fight). Many shows take turns for the worse for various reasons, but in the case of these two shows, the primary criticism has been that they're taking too long to do anything. How could studio execs actually think that the way to fix them is to stretch them out even longer? Shows only lose more viewers each subsequent season. This can only result in reduced ratings. Also, more and more people are doing the DVR/DVD thing instead of watching shows live. I guarantee you this will be a worse problem for the studios in 2009 than it will be in 2008 (especially with moves like this). There is simply no logic to this decision. Bonnie Hammer is now officially up there with Berman and Bragga as Hollywood's most incompetent executives. They've obviously blackmailed or slept their way into their jobs. The whole thing reeks as an attempt to tie up the actors/writers/directors/producers so that Sci-Fi will have less competition in 2009.
Sept. 5, 2007, 6:04 a.m. CST
It is true that Sci-fi is utterly clueless. They are used to their low budget shit (SG1, Drresden). I cant blame them for being pissed. and it is not surpising that they will milk this cow for the next year to the point that no one will fucking watch it anymore. I think this show will go down in history as the mosted buttfucked production in sci-fi, just from bad managenment.
Sept. 5, 2007, 9:05 a.m. CST
Like I said before, I think splitting the season up (if this rumor is actually true) could be a big Hail Mary play. If ratings for the first half of the season are significantly better, then SciFi can pull a 180 on ending the show. That would piss me even more. What the frak is wrong with these people?
Sept. 5, 2007, 11:02 a.m. CST
So say we all!
Sept. 5, 2007, 1:59 p.m. CST
partial to Damages myself, but Mad Men is a close second. Get with it Herc.
Sept. 6, 2007, 6:49 a.m. CST
SciFi Execs just ruined it. Can a letter writing campaign even work for this one? Even if fans can initiate a response (by example of the Trek TOS 70’s campaign or the recent Jericho campaign), the problem is that the die is cast, and RDM and writing staff will finalize the story arcs with the selected number of episodes. The production then goes much beyond a script; it then goes through the production pipeline to spend costs on soundstage, equipment, location, talent, crew, support staff for pre, pro and post work. <br> <br> If by a miracle a campaign by the fans would be heard by the bosses of those SciFi exec winners, and more episodes would be approved, the people involved in the current production are moving on, because they have no promises of further seasons. They’ve been given the pink slip, and their back to hunting for work- it’s sad but true. Some will fair better than others. A series cancellation disrupts the livelihood of all those involved in the production. The reality is that anyone involved in BSG work needs to get paid to support their lives (while SciFi execs have a full-time job sitting comfortably in their plush offices- their livelihood does not end if a series is cancelled). <br> <br> So here’s the question. What would YOU like to see happen if more budget is pumped into BSG? <br> 1) another season- this time 22 episodes aired in one solid year? <br> 2) A series of BSG TV Movies? <br> 3) Animated episodes? <br> 4)Video games like the PS2 game a few years ago? <br> 5) Season Concept: Flashback to Caprica? <br> 6) Season Concept: BSG during journey to Earth? <br> 7) Season Concept: An ultra cool (not Galactica:1980) story of Galactica reaching Earth and the adventure ensuing upon arrival? <br> Just some ideas from your fellow talkbacker here- demonstrating to those SCFI exec losers that if they had a shred of vision, leadership, genre devotion and fan appreciation, they can be the new visionaries of their time, instead of going down in our history books as Yes-Drones, those frakkin check-collecting wimps. We have no respect for them. Respect is earned. If some execs are reading this: DO SOMETHING FOR BSG TO EARN OUR RESPECT!
Sept. 6, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST
Total Mindf*** It just makes it that much harder to wait for Season 4.
Sept. 6, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST
ones but only two great ones: Farscape and Battlestar Galactica, and now they've screwed over both of them. And what the hell were they thinking with Flash Gordon. That series could've been so good. Practically coud've written itself and this is what they turn it into. Doctor Who and Eureka's all they've got left and Doctor Who's not even really there's. Especally now that BBC-America's finally airing the series. That, Torchwood and Jekyll make BBC-A the real scifi channel. And BTW want to make a great scuifi series without blow a millions on just effects check out Jekyll, very lite on effects and is about the best scifi series or miniseries I've scene in years. I mean Buffy seeason 2 great. Maybe better. Sombody tell me what Steven Moffat next project is I'm there.
Sept. 6, 2007, 7 p.m. CST
Networks are full of shit. They want to axe a show but still keep it for two years for the price of one. Fuckheads. On another note, does anyone know what the big storyline cut from season 3 was? Apparently this is partly why there seemed to be too many 'filler' eps, because they had to cut something big. Does anyone know what it was?
Sept. 6, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST
I believe the plot had to do with the sagitarons (or whoever the sick refugees were in that filer ep with Helo). That episode wasn't supposed to be filler, but rather the beginning of a plot that was somehow connected with Baltar's book and the women who come to rescue Baltar after his trial. Ron Moore talks about his in the blog for the Helo episode.
Sept. 7, 2007, 3:22 p.m. CST
by The Green Monster
Brian Harnois will do EVP work on Galactica. "Dude, Run!"
April 28, 2008, 10:39 p.m. CST
1)Babylon 5 spin offs 2)SG-1 3)BSG 4)Twlight Zone marathons 5)Giant snake and aligator movies
April 28, 2008, 10:41 p.m. CST
and I forget the biggest fuck up of all: Farscape!!!!!