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The Writers And Cast Of HEROES Reveal To Wizard The Secrets of Season One (And A Few Of Season Two)!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
Tuesday brings the highly anticipated release of “Heroes” on DVD, with its huge collection of deleted scenes and commentaries and the show’s original supersized pilot. (Look for more on these in tomorrow’s HercVault.)
In celebration, Wizard Magazine has produced its own episode-by-episode “season one commentary” assembling new interviews with the series’ writers and cast.
A few highlights (BEWARE SPOILERS):
* “The eclipse is one of those secrets that we’ll hold onto,” writer-producer Jesse Alexander tells Wizard. “I wouldn’t be surprised if Season 2 started with an eclipse. There’s a scientific and spiritual significance for the eclipse to the specific ‘Heroes’ storyline.”
* While artist Tim Sale usually created Isaac’s prophetic paintings from screen-shots of already completed scenes, this was apparently not the case with the early painting depicting Claire’s first confrontation with Sylar. “I remember having to hit the perfect turn for this pose that [Tim Sale] had me in, which was not the most comfortable thing,” confesses Hayden Panetierre.
* Jessica was apparently not always Niki’s dead sister, explains writer-producer Aron Eli Coleite.
* Kring knew from the beginning that Claire was Peter’s niece, and was a little creeped out that some saw the duo as a potential romantic pairing. “Just internally here, there were a lot of people who were like, ‘We’ve got to get them together.’”
* “I would pay some attention to [moppet mutant-finder] Molly Walker and what she represents as an important clue as to where [Season 2] is going,” Kring tells Wizard. “That’ll be revealed pretty much in the season opener, but this idea that Molly Walker and Suresh’s [Sendhil Ramamurthy] sister had similar ailments is a key part of where this story is going in the second season."
* Writer Jeph Loeb says the unseen supervillain -- the one Molly says is worse than Sylar -- "will be dealt with right in the first episode of Season 2."
Find all of Kiel Phegley’s engrossing Wizard piece here.
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fun show.
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Can't Wait
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two each
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Anyone have any idea what the "45 minutes of extra content" that's included in the Collector's Edition Target exclusive contains? Wondering whether or not it justifies the extra cash...
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I liked Heroes okay last year, but the world's collective nerdgasm is starting to make me resent it.
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I'm tired of people giving it a pass and ignoring some pretty glaring script and dialogue issues. That said...I'll be picking my set up in early morning tomorrow. Here's hoping that all the problems I had with it originally are washed away and I can truly become a fan. But this show has a long way to go.
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There I admitted it. Really looking forward to Season 2. Bring it on!
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It bears repeating. The show is mostly great but there's still room for improvement. Hopefully there was a little more time to think the plots through for next season.
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What does "Jessica was apparently not always Niki’s dead sister" mean? Does it mean she was once ALIVE?! How can she be dead if she wasn't alive first? And the show isn't THAT good. It's more about the hype than anything. If you put out enough money into the marketing, you can make anything a hit. Just like Desperate Housewives.
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has anyone else noticed that heroes is a rip off of alot of the Valiant comics stories. I know they 'borrow' from alot of comics but it seems the take from Valiant more than anything else.
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does this mean, it is only available exclusively at Target? If so, fuck that, it's probably not that great if it were to only be available at fucking TARGET... Just saying...
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I don't know what the extra content may be, but I doubt that it's an extra unaired episode or similar. They would do more than advertise it as "45 minutes of extra content" if it was anything extremely special.
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While I don't know for certain, I'd strongly suspect that the cagey language used to describe the exclusive stuff on the Target Edition means its DOWNLOADABLE MATERIAL. Gee, last time I checked, 'Heroes' was a fairly popular show, right? Target couldn't even spring for disk replication? Cheap bastards. (Although, maybe some people prefer DL to an extra bonus disk rattling around - discuss?)
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I would wonder about downloadable vs. on disc content too, but - it seems like the extra cost would indicate extra physical media. To be sure, though, the advert doesn't make it clear. Each outlet has their own free goodies (I think Best Buy has a comic book), but this edition actually costs extra $$. I can't find anything anywhere, though, to make it clear. Cost for the "normal" edition is pretty standard everywhere - $37 or $38 - but only Target has this edition, which runs $45.
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"...before." You kidding? This stuff goes back at least to the original Star Trek series!
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...i kinda agree with. I LOVE Heroes, although...i cant seem to understand why its the massive media hype that hasnt seemed to die down yet. I also cant seem to understand why everyone in the media stopped talking about Lost as soon as heroes caught on. The only thought i can seem to grasp is, Heroes is less confusing, and less cryptic for the more nimble mind? I dont consider myself a genius, but Lost isnt that hard to follow, and definitely better. None the less...heroes is great, but i tend to agree with some of you guys, not the most amazing show on tv.
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"Heroes" just flat-out did not live up to the hype. Not just because of the lackluster finale, but because the scripts were consistently of a "Knot's Landing/Melrose Place" prime-time soap quality and the sets/costuming reeked of studio penny-pinching. Plus, for a show in which spandex was anathema, don't you find it just a little strange that there was so much gratuitous gore? Did we need to see the cheerleader wake up with her chest splayed open for any particular reason? Scenes like that - other examples of which escape me at the moment - were completely unnecessary in this "comic book" re-imagining of the superhero myths.
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...but I'm still going to give it a shot.
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and all of his superpowers?
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according to another fansite the target edition features an exclusive slipcase with Tim Sale art, 4 postcard reproductions of "Isaac's" paintings (i.e. more Tim Sale art) and an additional disc which likely features the Paley Festival panel/Q&A.
I'm torn. I've got a Best Buy gift card, but REALLY love the way the Target packaging looks. Since those two stores are right next to each other, I'll probably head out there tomorrow and hold them both in my hands. -
Thanks for the info; an extra panel/q&a is likely enough for me to justify the extra 7 or 8 bucks. I really wish the studios would spread some of the TV-DVD love out a bit more - the last month or so has been Rome, Weeds, Dexter, Muppets, South Park, Simpsons, Tick and now Heroes after a summer of not much...
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kinda-cool-news.
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Better show, cheaper price.
But I'll be picking up both. -
I hate reverse engineering elements into a story, but I know it has to happen.
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I feel your pain. As a guy in his early 30's I have been trying to indentify with single-white-mom-stripper who look as hot as Ali Larter for years. So far, all I have gotten out of it are restraining orders.
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the eclipse means nothing? I highly fucking doubt he said that....
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Don't know what the 45 minutes are, but it also comes with Isaac's painting pics (don't know the size of those -- trading card size?). Also the price is the same as Best Buy and cheaper than Circuit City.
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It was just something to bookend the season thus implying deeper significance which they could exploit/pull out of their ass later on.
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is really... REALLY.... bad.
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eclipse and all.
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single black stripper mom with a loser/thug black baby's daddy.
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Just to clarify - Target offers the regular edition at the same price as Best Buy, but the Special Edition (which contains the mysterious extra 45 minutes of content and the Tim Sale paintings, and which is only available at Target) is $45.
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Just need to figure out where I'll be going to pick up my DVD originally at Best Buy because I was close. Now i'm thinking i'm gonna have to drive to Target. crap.
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Forgot about the extra price for that edition.
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I want to kill everyone like me as well.
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Didn't Molly talk about the big bad last season of "he"? As a red blooded American male, I can attest that there is nothing "he" about Kristen Bell. Bell's character is likely to be in cahoots with the big bad.
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The "finale" if one can call it that was a ham-fisted load of crap, especially what should have been a spectacular show down with Sylar. Instead we got that lame final battle with him where each character got to walk on, use their special power against him and then walk off again. It all felt so artificial and staged. Hopefully they'll save some budget to do something really spectacular at the end of next season. Don't get me wrong, I pretty much got blown away that every week was even more incredible than the last, but that finale was just so flat.
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I really liked this show even though it did rip off xmen and watchmen (which ripped off outer limits) BUT that season finale was truly a big steaming pile of shit....seriously
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Does Kevin know what the Cylon's plan is?
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Just a guess (although they could throw in all kinds of plot twists)
Perhaps Elle is Sylar? Remember in 5 years gone he had absorbed Candice's ability. -
Crimes against geekdom this year alone? Insider trading on Captian America #25.
They openly admitted to listing several CGC graded copies days before it hit stands at over $100 a copy since they knew ahead of time Cap died in the ish.
SHENANIGANS!! SHENNAAANNIIIGANS!! -
I can't wait for this to come back on. I'm writing some fun content for a new website, and I'm going to do a weekly Heroes column! it's not a good format for discussion back and forth, but it will be fun for me to just write down all my thoughts in one heaping mass on Monday at midnight...(it's tastybooze.com if any of the regulars here that know me are interested) not a big site or anything, but a good collection of funny stories and links.anyway, I'm so excited for the AICN Heroes gang to be back together. stupendous! I can't wait for the super-baddy in episode 1!!
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If you pay money for Wizard, you are part of the problem.
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People all over the world are borning/getting superpowers?! No shit! X-FUCKING-MEN!! C´mon!! And the whole lost-wannabe-drama is just not well written enough to hold. I´m sorry, but I cannot believe so many people worship this show...
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i gave up mentioning this sentiment a long time ago. i totally agree with you, but something has been introduced into the water supply that has brainwashed a whole bunch of people. you're running the risk of outing yourself as un-indoctrinated; i'd lay low and wait for the resistance to gain strength.
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Roger, roger. :)
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Everyone's meeting at the warehouse..and whatever you do- don't go to sleep!
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Just thought I'd throw out what I've learned. The Target Exclusive Special Edition is an 8-Disc set, which means it DOES come with an extra disc. The content of this extra disc is apparently a Q&A from some TV and Radio panel or another. So, 8 extra dollars, extra slipcase over the normal cover, extra disc, and the Sale "paintings." Not bad; I'll be a Target shopper tomorrow.
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yeah go buy that...and then start saving for the release next year of the JESUS EFFIN' CHRIST BROOKLYN BRIDGE EDITION to be released sometime next spring. It includes a real genuine bridge...true. And that should prime you for the special PETER JACKSON EXTENDED HOLY SHIT EDITION the following fall. Which should help everyone anticipating the special reworked special effects edition the following year.
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You've got a point; I am officially tired of gimmicky crap with DVD releases (and truthfully, I could do without the "paintings" that come with this); I don't need a fucking Spartan helmet with my copy of 300 thank you very much. That said, I WILL pay a few extra bucks for actual extra CONTENT in my DVD sets; that doesn't bother me. And keep in mind that buying the special edition now isn't a double dip from a previously released regular version; it's streeting on THE SAME DAY as the regular version; it just costs $8 more. I very much doubt that the "Brooklyn Bridge" double dip will be worth a later purchase, but since it's either the regular or the special edition now, I'll pick up the special edition.
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...am I seriously the only person to notice this information is nearly a month old? This is from the LAST ISSUE of Wizard.
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Jeez.
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So sayeth Mrs. Ron (Moore) herself on the BSG scifi.com message board. "Scheduling conflicts" is the given reason.
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That's a sucker bet; she'll be Big Bad #2. She won't be THE heel because Molly said it was a guy who 'looks back at her' when she tries to find the boogeyman.
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will Wal-Mart be offering anything special or just the regular edition. I live in a one horse town that all we have is a Wally World (and not a big one at that, so I may not have an option)
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..is all this show is. It's not even self-aware enough to be camp. The blondie twins shit was tedious, and almost all of the dialogue was cringe-inducing nonsense. Sylar, Claire, and Mr. Bennett are the only actors worth mentioning.
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I'm not joking either. Someday I hope to plan vacations around them, as they are cool just to watch on DVDs. I appreciate the heads up on that, although I'm still thinking I'll wait till I get an HD player and buy the HD set after a price drop. Does the Target HDDVD set also come with that bonus?
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I like Hero's don't get me wrong I'm planning on buying the DVD set tomorrow, but I take offense to the above statement that Hero's is comic book friendlynow pursued_by_bear you bring up some good points about differnet writers handeling things differenlty in comic books then we like and also that it is a freshman show, however LOST was a freshman show that was an amazing freshman season and a...strange 2nd season, I'm not saying LOST's 2nd season was bad, but it was just...off.however if Heros was to really be comic book friendly, Wizard interviews blah blah blah isn't the way to go, the way to go would be for Kring to admit that he does liberally borrow from comic books and comic book storylines because all true comic book geeks know where he is getting this stuff at.
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Is there any difference between these shows? I was thinking about checking out the Heroes DVDs to see what all the fuss is about but it looks like the same exact show as 4400. Am I missing something???
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Just need to rant
I live in Tokyo, the world tour brought four of the Heroes cast to Tokyo yesterday and even though Heroes hasnt been broadcasted yet in Japan, I couldnt get a damn ticket to the presentation. DAMN -
This show is gay.
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I think you may be getting this confused with 24 Cotton
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I thought the majority of s1 wasn't that great, and was only great for about a run of 3 eps from 'Company Man'. 'Lost' FTW
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Smallville.
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im surprised that show is still on the air.
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It'll never have the production values of a Heroes, but it still does pretty good. The two aren't very similar though, only in the whole powers department. The general populace is ignorant that superpowered beings exist in Heroes, for one.
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Time travel paradox y'all.
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Please dear god kill him. Make the voiceovers stop!
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4400 sucks cock
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Could someone tell me, (Spoiler) why the fuck does Nathan decide to get his ass blown up by flying his sissy brother up into the sky? Why didn't they just shoot Peter? Why didn't Peter just fly himself?
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From a character standpoint, it is Nathan redeeming himself and proving he is a hero. Since he is Peter's brother, he probably didn't want Peter shot, especially since he finally came to the realization that Peter is the good one. The show creaters have said that Peter can only do one power at a time, or at least it has been shown he doesn't have total control over himself. All of that doesn't mean Nathan blew himself up. He could have thrown Peter, or dropped him and then gotten out of there, which seems to be likely.
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I didn't know about the one-power-at-a-time thing (much like Ultraboy, huh?). Would have been nice if that had been made clear.
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perhaps offended was a strong word, and frankly I delt with this during the Kristen Bell announcement to death. I'm not talking about time travel which is pretty common in any kind of litureture, what I"m talking about is the char. with similar powers, similar plotlines (the ones that really have been nailed is Days of Future Past and Watchmen), that sort of thing.and while Kring maybe isn't an AICN @sshole kind of comic geek, and while obviously his writers are, the writing staff isn't assoicated with this show, he is. he is the creator adn the exec. producer and when he goes around and basically takes credit for their work while not giving proper credit to where it is dueand that doesn't count Stan "Who Wants to be a Superhero" Lee in a cameo or naming the Plaza where it all goes down after Jack Kirby. Those are nice touches (espically the Kirby one) but only that.pursued you are right Hero's was a show with a built in comic bok auidence, it's a show about superheros, but one not limited to just comic book fans, look how well Spiderman (1,2, & 3). X-Men (1, 2, & 3), even the Fantastic Four movies did at the book office. People who are not comic book fans like to see stuff like this, that much is obvious, but by saying he has never read a comic, Kring is almost, at least to me, saying that, he is beyond comic books, that they are for little kids. It's almost as if he is trying to distance himself from the medium that is most likely to embrace his show.
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Actually if you watch that final scene again, it's relatively clear. When Nathan shows up, Peter looks at him in distress and says "I cant do anything!" literally meaning that all he can do at that very moment is not explode. Watching that scene a second time gave that line perfect clarity. The first time it kinda slips past ya innocuously.
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The Final Cylon, and his Plan is to invade Heroes.
Or perhaps not.
Gods, I hope they keep this shows energy up and tighten up the internal logic. That finale pissed me off (Peter forgot how to fly? Wha?) -
Now that Hayden Panettiere is 18 I can legally have sex with her. Heh, heh, heh...
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99% of season one was fantastic, edge of the seat stuff right up until the flat finale and lame showdown with Sylar and the tiny explosion, which was supposed to have wiped out a city.
My biggest concern about season two is that they'll ruin/kill off/write out Sylar early to make way for the new big bad, which in my opinion would be a huge fucking mistake.
Sylar was one of the big reasons season one was so cool. He's a fantastic villain with great powers AND an interesting, layered character. I understand they need to bring in new characters, but if they waste Sylar I'll be seriously pissed.
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and not advertised him, and then have him show up towards the end of the season, all rested and ready to fuck people up.
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Jessica/Nikki is going to die. This is why they hired Veronica Mars chick, she is going to end up hooking up with Peter Petrelli.
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episode of Heroes: Origins.
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